The Palos Verdes peninsula is an escarpment on the edge of the Pacific tectonic plate rising out of the Catalina channel. The summit is called Mt. San Pedro. The substrate is sedimentary rock broken from the ocean floor and shoved up diagonally. About fifty to one hundred feet below the surface is a layer of dry clay that is ten to twenty feet thick. When the peninsula was developed during the 1950’s, Hawthorn Blvd and Crenshaw Blvd were extended through the cities to the north to facilitate access. As an escarpment, its sides are very steep. Instead if building the roads with switchbacks, the builders cut through the rock to make a gentler rise to get to the top (about 1200 feet above sea level). That broke through the overlying soils that kept the subsurface dry. When the rains came down, the water got down into that layer of dry clay and ran down to the ocean fifty to one hundred feet under ground. Unless they can seal off the surface soils near the top of the hill, that slide will continue and there will be little or nothing they can do about it. I lived in Rolling Hills Estates from 1958 to 1965 and what I described above was common knowledge then.
to add a little more to it. Altamira Shale consists largely of thin-bedded sedimentary rocks formed by the deposition of successive layers of clay, along with numerous layers of tuff (volcanic ash) that have been largely altered to weak clays. Thick layers of volcanic ash deposited millions of years ago were compressed over time into bentonite. In the presence of water, bentonite becomes very slippery and has been a major contributing factor for landslides in Rancho Palos Verdes.. This affects' whats taking place and come winter if there is a lot of Rain, I expect even more of a larger landslide. those that are putting bandaids on a open wound, will eventually leave or ride the slide, possibly while sleeping.
@@johnrockwell9212 I know in Virginia all the older properties in the country didn’t flood when the rains came, but all the newer properties did and all the old fellows would say they built them houses in swamps. We used to go hunting in those swamps and now they put houses in them swamps, builders will build and they don’t care what happens after they leave if it’s permit by the city, they’re laughing all the way to the bank
That's stupid, they signed the waiver, which implies if shit happens, home owners are on the hook for it, not the tax payer, the city, the county or the state.
unbelievable waste of taxpayer funds so public works and engineers can show how they can fight Mother Nature. Unbelievable hutzpah at taxpayers expense.
Those folks living there are delusional. There is no way to remediate that kind of ground movement. They need to face reality. They should collect what they can out of those houses and LEAVE the area.
@@aheimdahl5201 That area had series of nuclear accidents the land is dry from salt. All these people are lying. California is Sodom in the Bible. Instead of telling them the truth they just keep lying. All those rich people built bunkers because they know God is coming back. All they had to do was repent. These freemasons would rather everyone go down with them instead of telling everyone the truth.
they should soak the land in water to help it along faster, so eventually it might stop moving once its down all the way , then they can have beach front property
It’s only in some parts of the neighborhood, my house is fine just a few cracks. We do have to run the house off the generator which sucks but it is what it is.
Eventually, RPV residents shall be forced to vacate. The way things are going, they may have to be air lifted out of there -since any roads leading up there shall be to hazardous to take.
@@jazzyg530 The city did try tostop development from going on there. Land developers sued the city and had a judge create an exemption for the builders.
@@okboomer6201 California is unsafe period. If you're going to dictate where people can and cannot live no one should be there between the gangs to the earthquakes.
@@jmzochsnrtrI think the issue here is that we'd be using a lot of money on essential a few houses with no real reason behind it. They knew the risks and they definitely had time to prepare for it.
in 1940 it was not known - there was no movement for the original homes, how would they know? then the homes where here for like around 10 years with no movement how would they know? OK Boomer explain how helpful and kinds your statement is?
@@madeleinemcjones652 If you had listened to the video, it was clearly stated that it was a known geological hazard area. Originally there was a prohibition on any building or development. After pressure from developers, they allowed development, but the potential homeowners had to sign a disclosure that they fully understood the dangers. Well......... 💩 Happens. I feel no pity for any of them. These are all multi-million dollar houses, with a bunch of snobs who tried to conquer a mountain. 😂😂
Seriously, if my property were moving at ONE INCH per year; I'd be very worried. Five feet per year tells you who owns the land, or the Board. Follow the money.
Ikr. They are delusional. Listen to him spin the truth at 12:20 +/-: The state of emergency was called for the fires, not because idiots building on steep loose soil are experiencing the obvious consequences of building in such a stupid location just because they want a good view.
Look at Malibu...the cliffs behind the homes on the beach was where the ocean used to be....storms happen home get destroyed and they rebuild. SMART huh?
Why do you call names you can build an airplane that carries people on three wheels - a home can be built just as strong as a ship on the sea its fine -we level and live safely. Prove adaptive foundations are not crazy thank you for your kindness.
Right. Stop mother nature? Sure, build your house right up against the sea in North Carolina. Build a frame house in Oklahoma with no safe room. Build in a 100 year flood plain along the Mississippi. Build along a lava flow in Hawaii. See how those options work for you. Your million-dollar view will be worth $1.49.
We have stopped mother nature we have changed the rotation of the earth with the effort that stopped a nested rotational landslide just like this, we have polluted and beat the hell out of mother nature and the scars will be available for the next sentient species to discover - radioactivity - plastics the air quality Mother nature is a victim in our world. China stopped their flooding - just because 'merica cannot do any construction at this level, do not apply our nations inability to do amazing solutions things to all humans. Oh! I think other countries that are not in decline have diverted lava too. sorry pull head out of sand and look to nations doing - people who say we cannot are always interrupted by people doing it..
I worked residential property claims for awhile and my experience was that nobody reads their policy until they have a claim. Then they blame the underwriter for deficiencies. READ YOUR POLICY BEFORE YOU NEED IT. Give yourself a fighting chance. You can always by more coverage before a loss but not after.
This city should have to self fund. If you knew it was sliding then you knew the risk. Pay your own bills. No way the federal government should contribute a dime to a community that already knew the risks.
People are upset because the electricity and gases turned off. Perhaps nobody wants to have a fire caused by ruptured gas or electrical line in an area that is falling into the ocean People signed waivers because they knew there was a risk. What happened to personal responsibility? They made a decision to build their. They sued the city so they could build there, it is not the taxpayers responsibility to fix a problem at the homeowners themselves created.
They are not you are misinformed and generalizing everyone to one type of resident, or you made all that up in your own mean mind. Why do they fix NEW ORLEANS after a flood or another disaster after it strikes every 20 years why are we hated so and they are "poor victims of a disaster" not all of us sued to build many inherited homes or where here originally you need to research your condemnations to my safe life.
@@feanacar your right lived off Palos Verdes Drive East 1945 (born then) to 1967 drove that direction to PV high and several times road dropped enough that we had to go back around through Rolling Hills to get to school.
Back in the 1980s Dr. Hess was was contracted to characterize the slide areas. His conclusion is that the dirt is hundreds of feet deep and will keep sliding into the ocean. Nothing will stop the slide.
And yet in local tv station interviews, the residents in these areas want the government to "fix" the landslide. They think it can be fixed to stop the moving. Like you said, nothing will stop it.
A lot of these homeowners have been there for a while and they simply were not aware of the history. As far as everyone else buying there I wonder if the real estate agents selling these homes are being honest with people. Unfortunately, not everyone does due diligence.
@@jazzyg530 at 4:47 the mayor says that the landslide has been going on since 1956. That is about the time when engineers started moving in. 5 feet per year and then added rain didnt make things easier ... so common sense here what if annual rain levels increase? I wouldnt say itis homeowners fault but the city engineers'fault or whoever does the city planning.
I don't get it? rich folks build huge houses on the coastal cliffs and they are surprised that they are falling into the ocean???? and they want the state to pay for their house repair????
Not all people are rich- after the landslide many people bought here because it was cheap and blighted .. you could buy a red-tag and fix it. You have a personal discrimination against a community they are not big, many are 1950 ranch style homes. How can you generalize when you do not know ? Hope you find some kindness inside for people suffering.
The county and city had a building moratorium for this area for years but lost in court. The developers lawsuit on preventing new homes was an illegal taking.
You build your house out of straw on a foundation of sand in an area that you've known for 70 years is moving... and you're surprised that mother nature is knocking down your house.... 😂😂😂
It amazes me too. That people knowingly purchased homes up there. Or in that area. Fully knowing the entire area was moving 1 inch a year. Now fast-forward to today. Reports indicate it is moving 7 inches to 12 inches a week. Over the course of one year That equals to a complete other disaster? Think about it 70 years ago it was moving one inch a year. Which means it moved 70 inches over the course of that time. Now it’s roughly moving 12 times faster. Not sure what people are thinking about saving this area. But to me, it was time to pack and go along time ago…
the soil has Bentonite, which is Decay Volcanic ash, turned into clay. when it gets wet, it gets slimy/slippery, which will cause land to move. its notorious in Denver. there is what is called hot spots and cold spots for Real Estate. never want to buy a house zoned in a hot spot. homes are known to move sideways when the ground gets saturated. one man had his home move sideways, when the Water utility working on a line flooded the neighborhood. his home was hit hard, he wanted for the Water district to pay to reposition his house. that was denied. he went to his insurance company, they denied it on a Claim its an Act of God. he told his Mortgage Company, the house is yours and walked away from it. if it was me, I would sue the insurance company based on Political belief, and a man made Cause, as it was the cause of the Water Districts fault, I dont believe in a God you have to prove exists.
@@tuvelat7302 your right I lived there from 1945 to 1967 we went to see the damage back in 56 I was 11 and it was scary to see parts of the pool in the ocean.
Why I can build a home as strong as an airplane and can and have moved it - humans can engineer around slow land movement if they can engineer to high seas. Thanks for your expert kindness.
California home owner..."I want to live here, its beautiful!" Realtor.." you know this is very prone for landslides and you can lose your home one day" California home owner... " Ill take it!!!
I dont feel sorry for them, all knew that area was actively moving before the excessive rains. As a California and Federal tax payer, I DON'T want to be responsible for their greed. Blah blah blah. Duh
Not a current resident of the peninsula I lived on the peninsula and surrounding area many decades. Portuguese Bend has had a development moratorium for the past sixty years. However, owners of land immediately surrounding Portuguese Bend sued the city to allow development. Home owners in the area immediately surrounding Portuguese Bend were told they were purchasing outside the landslide area. That the area was safe. Not every injustice is going to be remedied this side of heaven. Home owners in the surrounding areas outside the historic landslide area that is Portuguese Bend ought to be compensated. These areas should not have been developed. Home buyers unwittingly purchased homes without proper disclosure.
@@daviddevey2046 your right I remember outside the slide area they said it was safe but we residence knew it was just a matter of time before the slide area would expand. I have family still living off Palos Verdes Drive East and told me the glass church is gone.
The family used to go to Marineland of the Pacific in the 1960s. We saw how bumpy and broken the road looked in the Portuguese Bend area. There were a few houses on steel beams but the rest were gone. Apparently, no good answers to this natural risk exist.
@@madeleinemcjones652 You live there? What's your story? When did you move there? What were your circumstances? Tell us your story. Very interested to hear your experience.
By pulling moisture completely out of soil will make that soil so dry it turns to dust, virtually sand only worse. It's an extermely unfortunate event and must be let go completely. People should not be allowed to be anywhere near it. Very irresponsible all the way around at this point to keep allowing people in the area.
If you extract the water, it leaves a void. What happens to the earth above the void? Gravity. Those water extraction wells are a waste of $10 million of taxpayer $$$. smh
Sand on moving granite slabs! That was known for centuries! My uncle used to drive bulldozers for the fire service all over California back in the day! He told me that they would never be able to develop these areas because of the shifting sands! No surprise here!
19:51 - To skip right to the chase, click here. But...I'd advise watching it from the start. Contrasting the official's optimism with the geologists' slap-in-the-face reality check - makes it all the more chilling.
Well, they had the foresight to name part of it "Rolling Hills". Landslides are typically covered by an Earthquake endorsement. Given the current state of California homeowners insurance, no one has it. Even before regular homeowners insurance became crazy expensive the Earthquake coverage was nearly impossible to afford if it was even offered.
Yeah. Earthqueake insurance is nuts. Might as well build a new house. Usually fema helps you after an earthquake but not sure anymore. The country is so mismanaged that it’s probably broke.
They cant stop or restore this area.. Its one slide siting on a secondary slide.. Best thing remove all structures and roads. And turn into a animal sanctuary.... Including Palos Verdes South
Thank you for your support and kindness my home is designed for the landslide - it don't care but you di?- you want to have us on the streets we could say the same for many areas like say all of new Orleans flood plane?
@madeleinemcjones652 No structure can withstand a land slide.... Water/rain lubricants the ground... Earth quakes can help them move.. When the winter storms come in and poud the shore It pull the earth holding the slide out to sea.... And none of you have addressed the failing sewer system.. I'm sorry for your loss But that's the reality... If I were you.. I would band together... There was a moratorium not to build on that known slide area... Developer's bought off city officials to build there... Sue the developers,, city officials at the time , and the city... Don't worry about bankrupting everyone.. Liquidate all city assets... Surrounding city's will absorb what's left... But gravity is going to win.. Your structures are adding to the slide failing.... Just because you close your eyes it will still happen... What do I know For a period of time every Monday I fixed Portuguese bend main road with 45 tons of cold mix... As the semis were coming and driving over the slide. I could feel the vibrations on my tractor.... Good luck to you
Five feet of movement per year is what's considered normal? This is absurd. How does one have meaningful recorded property surveys when the land moves five feet a year, let alone fifty feet per year?
The affluent and wealthy residents get angry when you refer to them as affluent and wealthy. There can be no taxpayer bailouts for residents of Rancho Palos Verdes!
So you know all my neighbors Melvin? some are simple teachers, widows and vets who moved here got red-tag homes during the blighted time where property values where lower than any other community in Los Angeles. But suddenly we are all Affluent? is everyone in Compton destitute? YOUR Discrimination and social bias is real and cruel.
It's ignorant to say that when one of the guests made it clear that the majority of the people living there are not wealthy or affluent. They built or bought modest homes and for some of those people they cannot afford to move and start over. I bought my home in Tampa, FL in 1986 for $55,000. If I lost my home and didn't have insurance I would be in a serious pickle.
PEOPLE LIVING IN THOSE AREAS THAT ARE $$$ THICK, SHOULD HAVE TO POST A BOND TO LIVE THERE. THE REST OF CALIFORNIA IS BEING SCREWED WITH HOME OWNERS INSURANCE.
Yall built on an ancient land slide that you then destroyed the toe for a roadway.... The toe of a landslide is necessary to stay stable... Nothing will help
we did not build we reclaimed homes and the landslide has gotten bigger - you are wrong , its been 60 years we are fine it just takes a while to adapt, so wait to eat our flesh ok> be kinder.
Difficult for EV owners to charge up with the current outages. A headache if you need your vehicle to go to work in order to pay your mortgage. Charging via a solar panel will take a while. The generators run on gas/diesel. Don't discount fossil fuels so soon, California.
@BobCox-s7g 69 years I graduated from Palos Verdes high school in 1963 and we lived what call the warm side of the hill off Palos Verdes Drive East from by bedroom I could see downtown Los Angeles. We'd drive through Portuguese Bend and one day the road dropped over a foot so we had to go back all around the other side. They filmed parts of the movie its a mad mad world near the glass church where Jane Manfield was married. Great place to growup but that area was quite scary.
So you know all my neighbors Cami? some are simple teachers, widows and vets who moved here got red-tag homes during the blighted time where property values where lower than any other community in Los Angeles. But suddenly we are all Affluent? is everyone in Compton destitute? YOUR Discrimination and social bias is real and cruel. Do not think you are kind because you are generalizing really limited income people
An active landslide SINCE 1956 IN THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES???!!!! And these people KEPT BUILDING, KEPT MOVING HERE???? And they want help NOW? OMG...I can't.......
OMG people still live in NEW ORLEANS it floods every few years, people DIE and sea level is rising and they want taller levees I CANT. These people live here safely no one dies.. be kinder
Rain! Rain?? I thought they were in the worst drought of the millennium! California can’t keep moving the environmental goal posts whenever it suits them. There’s a wildfire-Not enough rain! There’s a landslide-Too much rain!
dude what are you talking about that would be the same as midwesterners always dealing with tornadoes destroying their homes like they had something to do with it themselves. and while arson is a thing to not having rain for a very long time causes a drought ... anywhere... too much rain ya that's gonna funk with the soil and homes built in places where shysters grifted them into buying ... well those are gonna go into the sea... it has nothing to do with the whole of Cali.
Dude this has nothing to do with being grifted, this has everything to do with Californians and their “Holy’er then’ thow” attitude t’wards America! You don’t have enough water but the water you do get from the Colorado River you flush it into the ocean. You don’t have enough water for the Inland Empire but you’re destroying dams. You don’t have enough water but you won’t build reservoirs. You have terrible wildfires but you won’t do controlled burns on state land. Your entire hollywood machine demonizes nuclear power but you can’t shut down the one you have otherwise you’d grid will collapse… AND NOW somehow you’ve had so much rain for so many years that a square mile of land is sliding into the ocean?!?! WHERE DOES IT END FOR YOU PEOPLE! I hear hollyweird is finally going out of business and I think that would be a good thing, the quicker you have less to no control of the national narrative the better! P.S. I hope you’re safe and your house isn’t sliding into the ocean.
So you know all my neighbors Julien? some are simple teachers, widows and vets who moved here got red-tag homes during the blighted time where property values where lower than any other community in Los Angeles. But suddenly we are all Affluent? is everyone in Compton destitute? YOUR Discrimination and social bias is real and cruel. Do not think you are kind or hello kitty with your god- because you are generalizing really limited income and very ncie people into a cruel corner in your mind.
@@madeleinemcjones652not rich ..and apparently not smart either. I went house hunting up there years ago. It was dizzying and obvious how unstable the whole area was.
stick sand on a tambourine and keep tapping it underneath...and the sand is going to move until it levels out and then falls off of the edge... I learnt that at about 4 years of age....
"Where's it going". What!, Just add a little drizzle to the mix and those folks will find themselves eating breakfast floating out in the Pacific Ocean. How foolish can you be?
Instead of local, state and possibly the federal government continually using taxpayer dollars to pay for temporary bandaids, the local government (not federal) government should use local taxpayer dollars to buy out the homeowners, thus stopping the bleeding of public money. Outlay of taxpayer dollars will be greater to place temporary fixes for a problem that has an inevitable result compared to buy-outs.
Why do they get free money? In Fort Myers, Florida they had a hurricane and their houses were destroyed. Insurance companies went bust, so the homeowner loses everything. The poorer people should not have to pay for someone’s mansion.
No, they shouldn’t get bought out. They knew the risks when they built the property. No one has ever hidden the fact that that is a slide brown hazardous area
@CroisMoi - I agree, but we're talking California here; they lean more toward socialism. At the very least, let CA tax payers kick in for it if they choose, but not federal.
+ No useable or meaningful property surveys and plats. The whole thing is utterly ludicrous. Households should be cleared out, and the area left to the forces of nature.
And there is one for 600K too all homes are 1 Million even in WATTS these days - the STATE increase in value does not make the old widow rich or the people who inherit a home rich. do not be biased. There are different people here who are suffering at different circumstances.
So you know all my neighbors? some are simple teachers, widows and vets who moved here got red-tag homes during the blighted time where property values where lower than any other community in Los Angeles. But suddenly we are all Affluent? is everyone in Compton destitute? YOUR Discrimination and social bias is real and cruel.
Why did he say it has never done this before? An 80 yr old man told me that area was sliding 50 years ago and they stopped the building on it because of the slide.
True first slide was in 1956 and several homes and an Olympic pool of the Portuguese Bend Club slid into the ocean, this is nothing new we who lived in the area remember the slide.
@@MrCharlesEldredge my dad or my grandfather and great grandfather never talked about any slides before the fifties. I was 11yo at the time and remember seeing homes destroyed and waves coming on shore. Later when I attended Palos Verdes high school we drove that route to school and several times the road would drop enough so we had to turn around and go all the way through Rolling Hills which was quite a long drive. If you ever saw the movie Mad Mad world the Santa Rosita Park where the big W was really on this elderly couples estate in Portuguese Bend, we kids watch the filming.
What happens to your legal lot lines? A 50×100 lot would be on the "neighbors" lot in a year with 50 ft/yr motion. 10 yrs at 5 ft/yr. Adverse possession in CA only requires a few year (5?).
This is a REAL thing they PRANG regardless of his charter- LACO do not know where our lot lines, are the sheriff will not enforce ownership and LACO FIRE Will not enforce brush clearance here. We pay taxes here but we get inequitable service.
This slide is a slo mo version of the huge slide that occurred in Sweden or norway many years ago . all discussions meant to explain to the residents WHY their house will end up in the ocean are pointless in terms of allaying their fears . Hopefully these people can obtain some insurance money for their loss because they sure aren't going to be able to sell .
Can’t help but wonder if the accumulative weight of all of those houses could be a factor. If it’s been known for 70 years that the land was moving- who in their right mind would allow development at all.
At some point I remember someone telling me that Ca will break off into the ocean. It’s awesome and interesting that I’m getting to witness it during my lifetime.
because poor people saw a deal - like vets coming back from Vietnam, the blighted area and reclaimed homes where cheap we are not all rich - can do people can fix things and adapt to slow movement , it is safe here not one dies, it is slow moving - ding ding that is why
Soooo, people sued to build there due to the hostile environment and then spread water throughout the area and now the land is sliding down the hill? I don’t see the problem. 😅Except for the next moderate to large quake. 😉
I bet the people of Atlantis felt the same way as they went into the sea lol... it's moving, this poor guy is explaining how a thousand-year-old land slide is a surprising thing... they moved onto a land I hope most were aware they were signing on to ... and with that understanding, most should know eventually their home was going to go into the sea ... for the safety of the people buy them out and close down that city the earth will have its way whether you want it too or not.
I wish the host would ask the question most people scratching their heads want to know : WHY people still buy houses there (in general area with possible future problems) why area still expensive and if their real estate contract binds them to all known risks
Hello it's all explained here: some communities existed before the city was formed in 1970s. some neighborhoods sued the city and won the law suit, so city was forced to process their permits. details are here ua-cam.com/video/UTw6B2BiY50/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared&t=588
Yes we saw it happen back then and several homes plus a Olympic swimming pool part of the Portuguese Bend Club slid into the ocean, really scary to see parts of the pool in the ocean
This doesn't seem fair that about 100 + homes that need about over $1 billion plus ...in fixing and that's if it can be repaired... the federal government for the money that doesn't seem right... everyone in the California fires will want the same thing from the government and the state of California... this is going to be interesting to watch what happens..
Mother nature is a punching bag - you are wrong nature has not won the last few rounds remember - radioactive isotopes , ozone, oceans and glaciers, global warming. micro plastics, our impact will be here forever. The CITY was not even incorporated when they built her, the first homes where fine for many years. You need to please mind your LEE GALEN facts. Humans have fixed the problem in other can do nations, you are not an expert in large scale land remediation please do not condemn people, we are fine and safe, be kinder. Google more.
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The Palos Verdes peninsula is an escarpment on the edge of the Pacific tectonic plate rising out of the Catalina channel. The summit is called Mt. San Pedro. The substrate is sedimentary rock broken from the ocean floor and shoved up diagonally. About fifty to one hundred feet below the surface is a layer of dry clay that is ten to twenty feet thick. When the peninsula was developed during the 1950’s, Hawthorn Blvd and Crenshaw Blvd were extended through the cities to the north to facilitate access. As an escarpment, its sides are very steep. Instead if building the roads with switchbacks, the builders cut through the rock to make a gentler rise to get to the top (about 1200 feet above sea level). That broke through the overlying soils that kept the subsurface dry. When the rains came down, the water got down into that layer of dry clay and ran down to the ocean fifty to one hundred feet under ground. Unless they can seal off the surface soils near the top of the hill, that slide will continue and there will be little or nothing they can do about it.
I lived in Rolling Hills Estates from 1958 to 1965 and what I described above was common knowledge then.
to add a little more to it.
Altamira Shale consists largely of thin-bedded
sedimentary rocks formed by the deposition of successive layers of clay, along with numerous
layers of tuff (volcanic ash) that have been largely altered to weak clays. Thick layers of volcanic
ash deposited millions of years ago were compressed over time into bentonite. In the presence
of water, bentonite becomes very slippery and has been a major contributing factor for
landslides in Rancho Palos Verdes..
This affects' whats taking place and come winter if there is a lot of Rain, I expect even more of a larger landslide.
those that are putting bandaids on a open wound, will eventually leave or ride the slide, possibly while sleeping.
They don't call them Rolling Holls for nothing
Wow. That’s impressive knowledge. Poor people are hoping their corrupt selected officials will help them. Ha!
@@johnrockwell9212 I know in Virginia all the older properties in the country didn’t flood when the rains came, but all the newer properties did and all the old fellows would say they built them houses in swamps. We used to go hunting in those swamps and now they put houses in them swamps, builders will build and they don’t care what happens after they leave if it’s permit by the city, they’re laughing all the way to the bank
Who pays for all of this and why should they?
That's stupid, they signed the waiver, which implies if shit happens, home owners are on the hook for it, not the tax payer, the city, the county or the state.
Well stupid would be building on an area know to be sliding since 1956. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
U don’t know what ur talking about
unbelievable waste of taxpayer funds so public works and engineers can show how they can fight Mother Nature. Unbelievable hutzpah at taxpayers expense.
Not in our neighborhood we never had movement tjl. The city. Neglected the water mains and. Sewer mains
Those folks living there are delusional.
There is no way to remediate that kind of ground movement.
They need to face reality.
They should collect what they can out of those houses and LEAVE the area.
@@aheimdahl5201 That area had series of nuclear accidents the land is dry from salt. All these people are lying. California is Sodom in the Bible. Instead of telling them the truth they just keep lying. All those rich people built bunkers because they know God is coming back. All they had to do was repent. These freemasons would rather everyone go down with them instead of telling everyone the truth.
they should soak the land in water to help it along faster, so eventually it might stop moving once its down all the way , then they can have beach front property
It’s only in some parts of the neighborhood, my house is fine just a few cracks. We do have to run the house off the generator which sucks but it is what it is.
It does seem like ultimately a losing battle?
Eventually, RPV residents shall be forced to vacate. The way things are going, they may have to be air lifted out of there -since any roads leading up there shall be to hazardous to take.
I've been riding through that area all my life and it's always been a place that is moving. Why anyone would build there is beyond me.
You are not stupid. ALL the homeowners there are Brain Dead ... and stupid.
@@MyNameIsChristBringsASword I still can't understand why anyone wold want to live in the state period.
I still can't understand why anyone would want to live in the state period
@@MyNameIsChristBringsASword additionally, why anyone would permit these builds is even more wild.
@@jazzyg530 The city did try tostop development from going on there. Land developers sued the city and had a judge create an exemption for the builders.
They should have never allowed development in that known hazard area.
@@okboomer6201 California is unsafe period. If you're going to dictate where people can and cannot live no one should be there between the gangs to the earthquakes.
California is a great state, beautiful weather everyday. Liberals are the problem!
@@jmzochsnrtrI think the issue here is that we'd be using a lot of money on essential a few houses with no real reason behind it. They knew the risks and they definitely had time to prepare for it.
in 1940 it was not known - there was no movement for the original homes, how would they know? then the homes where here for like around 10 years with no movement how would they know? OK Boomer explain how helpful and kinds your statement is?
@@madeleinemcjones652 If you had listened to the video, it was clearly stated that it was a known geological hazard area.
Originally there was a prohibition on any building or development.
After pressure from developers, they allowed development, but the potential homeowners had to sign a disclosure that they fully understood the dangers.
Well.........
💩 Happens.
I feel no pity for any of them. These are all multi-million dollar houses, with a bunch of snobs who tried to conquer a mountain.
😂😂
They want to get back to only 5 feet per year….then we can rebuild…. STILL SLIDING and you are rebuilding???? CRAZY!!
Seriously, if my property were moving at ONE INCH per year; I'd be very worried.
Five feet per year tells you who owns the land, or the Board.
Follow the money.
Ikr. They are delusional.
Listen to him spin the truth at 12:20 +/-: The state of emergency was called for the fires, not because idiots building on steep loose soil are experiencing the obvious consequences of building in such a stupid location just because they want a good view.
@@Ominousheat it's a slow moving slide , it isn't an emergency, it's a inconvenience for those who's houses fall apart , Move
Look at Malibu...the cliffs behind the homes on the beach was where the ocean used to be....storms happen home get destroyed and they rebuild. SMART huh?
Why do you call names you can build an airplane that carries people on three wheels - a home can be built just as strong as a ship on the sea its fine -we level and live safely. Prove adaptive foundations are not crazy thank you for your kindness.
Right. Stop mother nature? Sure, build your house right up against the sea in North Carolina. Build a frame house in Oklahoma with no safe room. Build in a 100 year flood plain along the Mississippi. Build along a lava flow in Hawaii. See how those options work for you.
Your million-dollar view will be worth $1.49.
Right? Yeepers, goodness. Wow, what the heck? What were they thinkin? Holy moly, goodness, yeesh.
$1.49 is good money wasted.
I'd spend my $1.49 on a beer instead of buying a million dollar house there 😂😂😂😂😂😂
We have stopped mother nature we have changed the rotation of the earth with the effort that stopped a nested rotational landslide just like this, we have polluted and beat the hell out of mother nature and the scars will be available for the next sentient species to discover - radioactivity - plastics the air quality Mother nature is a victim in our world. China stopped their flooding - just because 'merica cannot do any construction at this level, do not apply our nations inability to do amazing solutions things to all humans. Oh! I think other countries that are not in decline have diverted lava too. sorry pull head out of sand and look to nations doing - people who say we cannot are always interrupted by people doing it..
No taxpayer funding or buyouts!!!
Let the homeowners have bake sales and raise loads of money.
@@jgal1231GoFundMe, telethons, a charity rock concert. And yes, bake sales.
The compassion is great to see!!!Love thy neighbor! We should be there to help.
@@Helen-mh8mq they have know since the 50’s there still building their crazy.
@@RVBadlands2015 Still building there is insane.I live on the coast .Very similar.But the people who are there now should be helped to relocate.
I worked residential property claims for awhile and my experience was that nobody reads their policy until they have a claim. Then they blame the underwriter for deficiencies. READ YOUR POLICY BEFORE YOU NEED IT. Give yourself a fighting chance. You can always by more coverage before a loss but not after.
RPV residents knew - at the time of purchase - that the area was risky to live in.
This city should have to self fund. If you knew it was sliding then you knew the risk. Pay your own bills. No way the federal government should contribute a dime to a community that already knew the risks.
People are upset because the electricity and gases turned off.
Perhaps nobody wants to have a fire caused by ruptured gas or electrical line in an area that is falling into the ocean
People signed waivers because they knew there was a risk. What happened to personal responsibility?
They made a decision to build their. They sued the city so they could build there, it is not the taxpayers responsibility to fix a problem at the homeowners themselves created.
They are not you are misinformed and generalizing everyone to one type of resident, or you made all that up in your own mean mind. Why do they fix NEW ORLEANS after a flood or another disaster after it strikes every 20 years why are we hated so and they are "poor victims of a disaster" not all of us sued to build many inherited homes or where here originally you need to research your condemnations to my safe life.
@@feanacar your right lived off Palos Verdes Drive East 1945 (born then) to 1967 drove that direction to PV high and several times road dropped enough that we had to go back around through Rolling Hills to get to school.
"My house is lucky enough that it's just starting to move." How lucky...wow!
One earthquake nearby and all the water/sand below will shake like jello.
Boom! Into the ocean. Get Out, way too late!
Back in the 1980s Dr. Hess was was contracted to characterize the slide areas. His conclusion is that the dirt is hundreds of feet deep and will keep sliding into the ocean. Nothing will stop the slide.
And yet in local tv station interviews, the residents in these areas want the government to "fix" the landslide. They think it can be fixed to stop the moving. Like you said, nothing will stop it.
What is wrong with these people. Don't build there. Don't live there. Don't move there.
Absolutely. Do not build there idiots!!! LOL Ask not what the city can do for you, as what you can do to save your A$$ets.
A lot of these homeowners have been there for a while and they simply were not aware of the history. As far as everyone else buying there I wonder if the real estate agents selling these homes are being honest with people. Unfortunately, not everyone does due diligence.
@@jazzyg530 at 4:47 the mayor says that the landslide has been going on since 1956. That is about the time when engineers started moving in. 5 feet per year and then added rain didnt make things easier ... so common sense here what if annual rain levels increase? I wouldnt say itis homeowners fault but the city engineers'fault or whoever does the city planning.
oh butttttttttt... you can see the ocean !
@@plutoplatters ikr
I don't get it? rich folks build huge houses on the coastal cliffs and they are surprised that they are falling into the ocean???? and they want the state to pay for their house repair????
Not all people are rich- after the landslide many people bought here because it was cheap and blighted .. you could buy a red-tag and fix it. You have a personal discrimination against a community they are not big, many are 1950 ranch style homes. How can you generalize when you do not know ? Hope you find some kindness inside for people suffering.
Lots of band aides for an organ failure
I love this format of more than one interview per episode 😊
The city, or county should have never allowed permits to build homes there. Foolish
The county and city had a building moratorium for this area for years but lost in court. The developers lawsuit on preventing new homes was an illegal taking.
Typical greedy officials
Sue the builders!!!
@@mj.p.3423 the officials had nothing to do with it. It was the developers that sued the city.
You build your house out of straw on a foundation of sand in an area that you've known for 70 years is moving... and you're surprised that mother nature is knocking down your house.... 😂😂😂
It amazes me too. That people knowingly purchased homes up there. Or in that area. Fully knowing the entire area was moving 1 inch a year. Now fast-forward to today. Reports indicate it is moving 7 inches to 12 inches a week. Over the course of one year That equals to a complete other disaster? Think about it 70 years ago it was moving one inch a year. Which means it moved 70 inches over the course of that time. Now it’s roughly moving 12 times faster. Not sure what people are thinking about saving this area. But to me, it was time to pack and go along time ago…
@@grumpyoldman64 now now, those home buyers were mostly engineers. Engineers know all. Their college degrees speaks for itself.
And it is sad that now we are expected to pay for it.
@@desireedesenna9673😂😂😂
Looks like a big rain and it'll all go.
the soil has Bentonite, which is Decay Volcanic ash, turned into clay.
when it gets wet, it gets slimy/slippery, which will cause land to move.
its notorious in Denver.
there is what is called hot spots and cold spots for Real Estate.
never want to buy a house zoned in a hot spot.
homes are known to move sideways when the ground gets saturated.
one man had his home move sideways, when the Water utility working on a line flooded the neighborhood.
his home was hit hard, he wanted for the Water district to pay to reposition his house.
that was denied.
he went to his insurance company, they denied it on a Claim its an Act of God.
he told his Mortgage Company, the house is yours and walked away from it.
if it was me, I would sue the insurance company based on Political belief, and a man made Cause,
as it was the cause of the Water Districts fault, I dont believe in a God you have to prove exists.
Are you sure that land never slid into the ocean before?
LOL..
I'm impressed by people's optimism to try and continue living here.
You lost me at 'unprecedented'. This is a historic slide that's been moving for a long time.
@@tuvelat7302 your right I lived there from 1945 to 1967 we went to see the damage back in 56 I was 11 and it was scary to see parts of the pool in the ocean.
Gravity/ Physics always wins in the end
Ain't no such thing as gravity....yea
Why I can build a home as strong as an airplane and can and have moved it - humans can engineer around slow land movement if they can engineer to high seas. Thanks for your expert kindness.
California home owner..."I want to live here, its beautiful!" Realtor.." you know this is very prone for landslides and you can lose your home one day" California home owner... " Ill take it!!!
I dont feel sorry for them, all knew that area was actively moving before the excessive rains. As a California and Federal tax payer, I DON'T want to be responsible for their greed. Blah blah blah. Duh
Not a current resident of the peninsula I lived on the peninsula and surrounding area many decades. Portuguese Bend has had a development moratorium for the past sixty years. However, owners of land immediately surrounding Portuguese Bend sued the city to allow development. Home owners in the area immediately surrounding Portuguese Bend were told they were purchasing outside the landslide area. That the area was safe. Not every injustice is going to be remedied this side of heaven. Home owners in the surrounding areas outside the historic landslide area that is Portuguese Bend ought to be compensated. These areas should not have been developed. Home buyers unwittingly purchased homes without proper disclosure.
@@daviddevey2046 your right I remember outside the slide area they said it was safe but we residence knew it was just a matter of time before the slide area would expand.
I have family still living off Palos Verdes Drive East and told me the glass church is gone.
The family used to go to Marineland of the Pacific in the 1960s. We saw how bumpy and broken the road looked in the Portuguese Bend area. There were a few houses on steel beams but the rest were gone. Apparently, no good answers to this natural risk exist.
There is a solution to this national risk, don’t allow people to build homes on slide prone areas
@@feanacarit's sad they won the lawsuit against the city and now we have to pay
My homes is a great answer it is great not good thank you for your expert opinion on our successful homes. How kinds your words are!
@@madeleinemcjones652
You live there? What's your story? When did you move there? What were your circumstances? Tell us your story. Very interested to hear your experience.
The landslides movement reminds me of a glacier. Slow, steady, unstoppable.
Except if you googled you would see that humans have stopped very very large nested landslides in Norway and China
I've known about this happening for about 50 years...and I don't even live there!😂
The people know it too and we build and live on it safely- if you say you did not it is because it has grown larger ok
@@madeleinemcjones652 People should have moved out about the time that Marine Land closed! Land was moving all over the place? It was scary!😵💫🙋
By pulling moisture completely out of soil will make that soil so dry it turns to dust, virtually sand only worse.
It's an extermely unfortunate event and must be let go completely.
People should not be allowed to be anywhere near it.
Very irresponsible all the way around at this point to keep allowing people in the area.
If you extract the water, it leaves a void. What happens to the earth above the void? Gravity. Those water extraction wells are a waste of $10 million of taxpayer $$$. smh
Sand on moving granite slabs! That was known for centuries! My uncle used to drive bulldozers for the fire service all over California back in the day! He told me that they would never be able to develop these areas because of the shifting sands! No surprise here!
This is the best explanation of the situation and solutions anyone has produced. Very detailed and thorough. Nice work. Ramzi the man
19:51 - To skip right to the chase, click here. But...I'd advise watching it from the start. Contrasting the official's optimism with the geologists' slap-in-the-face reality check - makes it all the more chilling.
@@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking wish I saw your comment first!
Well, they had the foresight to name part of it "Rolling Hills".
Landslides are typically covered by an Earthquake endorsement. Given the current state of California homeowners insurance, no one has it. Even before regular homeowners insurance became crazy expensive the Earthquake coverage was nearly impossible to afford if it was even offered.
Yeah. Earthqueake insurance is nuts. Might as well build a new house. Usually fema helps you after an earthquake but not sure anymore. The country is so mismanaged that it’s probably broke.
What an absolute scam insurance games are.
@@Fido-vm9zi The State of California created the mess that is the current insurance market, and it is getting worse not better.
Land slippage is not covered by earthquake insurance.
@@williamlloyd3769 It is normally covered as "subsidence" which is included in every earthquake policy I have seen.
They cant stop or restore this area..
Its one slide siting on a secondary slide..
Best thing remove all structures and roads. And turn into a animal sanctuary....
Including Palos Verdes South
Only birds or swimming reptiles..
Absolutely agree!
Thank you for your support and kindness my home is designed for the landslide - it don't care but you di?- you want to have us on the streets we could say the same for many areas like say all of new Orleans flood plane?
@madeleinemcjones652
No structure can withstand a land slide....
Water/rain lubricants the ground...
Earth quakes can help them move..
When the winter storms come in and poud the shore
It pull the earth holding the slide out to sea....
And none of you have addressed the failing sewer system..
I'm sorry for your loss
But that's the reality...
If I were you..
I would band together...
There was a moratorium not to build on that known slide area...
Developer's bought off city officials to build there...
Sue the developers,, city officials at the time , and the city...
Don't worry about bankrupting everyone..
Liquidate all city assets...
Surrounding city's will absorb what's left...
But gravity is going to win..
Your structures are adding to the slide failing....
Just because you close your eyes it will still happen...
What do I know
For a period of time every Monday I fixed Portuguese bend main road with 45 tons of cold mix...
As the semis were coming and driving over the slide. I could feel the vibrations on my tractor....
Good luck to you
Five feet of movement per year is what's considered normal? This is absurd. How does one have meaningful recorded property surveys when the land moves five feet a year, let alone fifty feet per year?
16:07 Hey UA-cam, I pay a premium not to suffer watching advertisements. I want…demand a refund.
@@MASTER3RDEYE youtube is absolutely ridiculous these days.
UA-cam is ridiculous these days.
All about control and profits.
It will be its own demise.
I hear a lot about gas and electric, but what about water and sewage?
Get the heck out of there folks. That’s the smart decision.
Another expert in slow land movement living being supportive and all knowing and kind to my perfectly safe home.
@@madeleinemcjones652 another delusional and overly optimistic ecologist
Ive been in insurance industry for 35 years. Landslides have always been excluded.
The affluent and wealthy residents get angry when you refer to them as affluent and wealthy. There can be no taxpayer bailouts for residents of Rancho Palos Verdes!
So you know all my neighbors Melvin? some are simple teachers, widows and vets who moved here got red-tag homes during the blighted time where property values where lower than any other community in Los Angeles. But suddenly we are all Affluent? is everyone in Compton destitute? YOUR Discrimination and social bias is real and cruel.
It's ignorant to say that when one of the guests made it clear that the majority of the people living there are not wealthy or affluent. They built or bought modest homes and for some of those people they cannot afford to move and start over.
I bought my home in Tampa, FL in 1986 for $55,000. If I lost my home and didn't have insurance I would be in a serious pickle.
PEOPLE LIVING IN THOSE AREAS THAT ARE $$$ THICK, SHOULD HAVE TO POST A BOND TO LIVE THERE. THE REST OF CALIFORNIA IS BEING SCREWED WITH HOME OWNERS INSURANCE.
BTW - Homeowners Insurance typically excludes land slippage as an insurable event. Homeowners are totally at risk.
We are not all rich you are discriminating
Time to move. Simple.
They won’t be able to sale it. Won’t be able to claim a loss since Insurance won’t cover it.
@@Avtr44 either way they have to move and do it now for their safety
They are moving. About one foot per week. :)
@@Leipuanani 🤣🤗
Easier said than done!!
Yall built on an ancient land slide that you then destroyed the toe for a roadway.... The toe of a landslide is necessary to stay stable... Nothing will help
we did not build we reclaimed homes and the landslide has gotten bigger - you are wrong , its been 60 years we are fine it just takes a while to adapt, so wait to eat our flesh ok> be kinder.
Insurance does not cover land movement.
If you see my reflection in a slow sliding hill ... it's a landslide that took me down 😎🎭✌️
😵💫 Living there would scare me to death!
Thanks for that Stevie.
Predictive programming is truly amazing.....Stevie said it
@@stevenotero2627 Sounds like a line in a song.....🎶
Difficult for EV owners to charge up with the current outages. A headache if you need your vehicle to go to work in order to pay your mortgage. Charging via a solar panel will take a while. The generators run on gas/diesel. Don't discount fossil fuels so soon, California.
So for over 50 years they have known that this area is sliding , and you build a house there ?
@BobCox-s7g 69 years I graduated from Palos Verdes high school in 1963 and we lived what call the warm side of the hill off Palos Verdes Drive East from by bedroom I could see downtown Los Angeles.
We'd drive through Portuguese Bend and one day the road dropped over a foot so we had to go back all around the other side.
They filmed parts of the movie its a mad mad world near the glass church where Jane Manfield was married. Great place to growup but that area was quite scary.
And the taxpayers will bail out these rich people. As a middle-class taxpayer, I"m really tired of carrying these rich folks.
Exactly
So you know all my neighbors Cami? some are simple teachers, widows and vets who moved here got red-tag homes during the blighted time where property values where lower than any other community in Los Angeles. But suddenly we are all Affluent? is everyone in Compton destitute? YOUR Discrimination and social bias is real and cruel. Do not think you are kind because you are generalizing really limited income people
I thought the geologist’s segment was very informative and interesting. This whole situation is unreal to me.
An active landslide SINCE 1956 IN THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES???!!!! And these people KEPT BUILDING, KEPT MOVING HERE???? And they want help NOW? OMG...I can't.......
City of Rancho Palos Verdes
OMG people still live in NEW ORLEANS it floods every few years, people DIE and sea level is rising and they want taller levees I CANT. These people live here safely no one dies.. be kinder
At what point will the PTB realize it makes more sense financially to buyout residents instead of costly repairs every few weeks?
Rain! Rain?? I thought they were in the worst drought of the millennium!
California can’t keep moving the environmental goal posts whenever it suits them.
There’s a wildfire-Not enough rain!
There’s a landslide-Too much rain!
Woke Weather in Cali, it depends on how it identifies this season.
Exactly!!!!
dude what are you talking about that would be the same as midwesterners always dealing with tornadoes destroying their homes like they had something to do with it themselves. and while arson is a thing to not having rain for a very long time causes a drought ... anywhere... too much rain ya that's gonna funk with the soil and homes built in places where shysters grifted them into buying ... well those are gonna go into the sea... it has nothing to do with the whole of Cali.
@@yfa6244 I hope that is a joke do you know the meaning of what woke actually is? cuz if you did your whole statement is absurd.
Dude this has nothing to do with being grifted, this has everything to do with Californians and their “Holy’er then’ thow” attitude t’wards America! You don’t have enough water but the water you do get from the Colorado River you flush it into the ocean.
You don’t have enough water for the Inland Empire but you’re destroying dams.
You don’t have enough water but you won’t build reservoirs.
You have terrible wildfires but you won’t do controlled burns on state land.
Your entire hollywood machine demonizes nuclear power but you can’t shut down the one you have otherwise you’d grid will collapse…
AND NOW somehow you’ve had so much rain for so many years that a square mile of land is sliding into the ocean?!?!
WHERE DOES IT END FOR YOU PEOPLE!
I hear hollyweird is finally going out of business and I think that would be a good thing, the quicker you have less to no control of the national narrative the better!
P.S. I hope you’re safe and your house isn’t sliding into the ocean.
Well someone got taken for a ride!!
Sounds like an insurance problem, not a taxpayer problem.
Rich people problems
So you know all my neighbors Julien? some are simple teachers, widows and vets who moved here got red-tag homes during the blighted time where property values where lower than any other community in Los Angeles. But suddenly we are all Affluent? is everyone in Compton destitute? YOUR Discrimination and social bias is real and cruel. Do not think you are kind or hello kitty with your god- because you are generalizing really limited income and very ncie people into a cruel corner in your mind.
@@madeleinemcjones652not rich ..and apparently not smart either. I went house hunting up there years ago. It was dizzying and obvious how unstable the whole area was.
It would be cheaper just to buy the people out and get them relocated to a safer area.
stick sand on a tambourine and keep tapping it underneath...and the sand is going to move until it levels out and then falls off of the edge... I learnt that at about 4 years of age....
This is what a living nightmare looks like
You mean WAR or FIRE ? my home and most homes are fine. do not generalize.
Time to move out.
Thanks for your support my home is fine and safe thank you for your discrimination and understanding
Instead of flushing money down the toilet, maybe condemn the area and let nature run its course.
What a bummer having a home in that landslide area and then having to move because your house is going to be taken over
The homeowners that sign the waiver should be left out of the bailout both state and federal.
"Where's it going". What!, Just add a little drizzle to the mix and those folks will find themselves eating breakfast floating out in the Pacific Ocean. How foolish can you be?
Thank you all for giving us RPV residents a truthful explanation of this issue. Luckily am just outside of the disaster area.
Instead of local, state and possibly the federal government continually using taxpayer dollars to pay for temporary bandaids, the local government (not federal) government should use local taxpayer dollars to buy out the homeowners, thus stopping the bleeding of public money. Outlay of taxpayer dollars will be greater to place temporary fixes for a problem that has an inevitable result compared to buy-outs.
Why do they get free money? In Fort Myers, Florida they had a hurricane and their houses were destroyed. Insurance companies went bust, so the homeowner loses everything. The poorer people should not have to pay for someone’s mansion.
No, they shouldn’t get bought out.
They knew the risks when they built the property.
No one has ever hidden the fact that that is a slide brown hazardous area
@CroisMoi - I agree, but we're talking California here; they lean more toward socialism. At the very least, let CA tax payers kick in for it if they choose, but not federal.
Thank you. Best explanation I’ve found. I’m near a landslide area.
Awesome, thank you!
Why the sign advertising Epoch Times in the background?
That's who he works for.
I believe that one house is listed for over 16 million
😂 for real...?
Apparantly a 16 million dollar total loss
+ No useable or meaningful property surveys and plats. The whole thing is utterly ludicrous. Households should be cleared out, and the area left to the forces of nature.
And there is one for 600K too all homes are 1 Million even in WATTS these days - the STATE increase in value does not make the old widow rich or the people who inherit a home rich. do not be biased. There are different people here who are suffering at different circumstances.
If I had that kind of money, I sure would find a safer place to live.
So you know all my neighbors? some are simple teachers, widows and vets who moved here got red-tag homes during the blighted time where property values where lower than any other community in Los Angeles. But suddenly we are all Affluent? is everyone in Compton destitute? YOUR Discrimination and social bias is real and cruel.
Very informative report. Excellent and comprehensive. Thank you for sharing it with us.
Why did he say it has never done this before? An 80 yr old man told me that area was sliding 50 years ago and they stopped the building on it because of the slide.
True first slide was in 1956 and several homes and an Olympic pool of the Portuguese Bend Club slid into the ocean, this is nothing new we who lived in the area remember the slide.
@@optitom9033I thought one of the guests said there was sliding after a home was built there in the 1920's? Maybe I misunderstood.
@@MrCharlesEldredge my dad or my grandfather and great grandfather never talked about any slides before the fifties.
I was 11yo at the time and remember seeing homes destroyed and waves coming on shore. Later when I attended Palos Verdes high school we drove that route to school and several times the road would drop enough so we had to turn around and go all the way through Rolling Hills which was quite a long drive.
If you ever saw the movie Mad Mad world the Santa Rosita Park where the big W was really on this elderly couples estate in Portuguese Bend, we kids watch the filming.
What happens to your legal lot lines? A 50×100 lot would be on the "neighbors" lot in a year with 50 ft/yr motion. 10 yrs at 5 ft/yr. Adverse possession in CA only requires a few year (5?).
Look at the google maps of Washaway beach in Washington state. Many blocks underwater now.
This is a REAL thing they PRANG regardless of his charter- LACO do not know where our lot lines, are the sheriff will not enforce ownership and LACO FIRE Will not enforce brush clearance here. We pay taxes here but we get inequitable service.
This slide is a slo mo version of the huge slide that occurred in Sweden or norway many years ago .
all discussions meant to explain to the residents WHY their house will end up in the ocean are pointless in terms of allaying their fears .
Hopefully these people can obtain some insurance money for their loss because they sure aren't going to be able to sell .
Can’t help but wonder if the accumulative weight of all of those houses could be a factor.
If it’s been known for 70 years that the land was moving- who in their right mind would allow development at all.
At some point I remember someone telling me that Ca will break off into the ocean.
It’s awesome and interesting that I’m getting to witness it during my lifetime.
wow so sad these people lost there homes
Kiss your grass goodbye!
Why would you buy there if the problem started in 1956?
because poor people saw a deal - like vets coming back from Vietnam, the blighted area and reclaimed homes where cheap we are not all rich - can do people can fix things and adapt to slow movement , it is safe here not one dies, it is slow moving - ding ding that is why
These mini earthquakes in Malibu are the sonic activity being implored under the area.
Soooo, people sued to build there due to the hostile environment and then spread water throughout the area and now the land is sliding down the hill? I don’t see the problem. 😅Except for the next moderate to large quake. 😉
I seem to remember hearing about some of the areas around the peninsula being unstable many years ago.
Last winter's unusually wet season aggravated this nightmare. Most residents will be left homeless 😔
Naw, most who live there are rich.
I bet the people of Atlantis felt the same way as they went into the sea lol... it's moving, this poor guy is explaining how a thousand-year-old land slide is a surprising thing... they moved onto a land I hope most were aware they were signing on to ... and with that understanding, most should know eventually their home was going to go into the sea ... for the safety of the people buy them out and close down that city the earth will have its way whether you want it too or not.
WOW... Google Maps Street and 3D views of what was compared to the photos and video here!!!
Rancho Palo Verde and Rolling Hills is going into the Ocean.
The ground is unstable in the entire area!
Wrong I was raised off Palos Verdes Drive East are on very stable ground, still have family there my uncle developed our street Colt Road.
Okay if your yard moves , I am thinking you should too
Says everyone one who lives on a BOAT?
I wish the host would ask the question most people scratching their heads want to know : WHY people still buy houses there (in general area with possible future problems) why area still expensive and if their real estate contract binds them to all known risks
Hello it's all explained here: some communities existed before the city was formed in 1970s. some neighborhoods sued the city and won the law suit, so city was forced to process their permits. details are here
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You said unprecedented. That is not true. The same thing that is happening now happened in 1956
Yes we saw it happen back then and several homes plus a Olympic swimming pool part of the Portuguese Bend Club slid into the ocean, really scary to see parts of the pool in the ocean
And also the escarpments on the eastern lakeshore of Metasque Lake in southern France.
October will be worse for California
This doesn't seem fair that about 100 + homes that need about over $1 billion plus ...in fixing and that's if it can be repaired... the federal government for the money that doesn't seem right... everyone in the California fires will want the same thing from the government and the state of California... this is going to be interesting to watch what happens..
Those streets have not been properly maintained for decades!
Why did the state allow developers to build there ib the first place ???
Because in 1940-1958 there was not any indication of a landslide maybe? The dynamite activity opened the landslide proved in court.
Mother Nature always wins. No building should have ever been built there and the city knew it.
Mother nature is a punching bag - you are wrong nature has not won the last few rounds remember - radioactive isotopes , ozone, oceans and glaciers, global warming. micro plastics, our impact will be here forever. The CITY was not even incorporated when they built her, the first homes where fine for many years. You need to please mind your LEE GALEN facts. Humans have fixed the problem in other can do nations, you are not an expert in large scale land remediation please do not condemn people, we are fine and safe, be kinder. Google more.
This happened in Bluebird canyon in Laguna Beach years ago. But sudden.
Different kind of landslide this is slow and safer
@@madeleinemcjones652 , safer? Okay. 😏
It's quite a shame, really.