Nick is absolutely taller than hannah even in heels. She's insecure about being "bigger/broader" than him. Period. I'm much taller than hannah and this is not a height problem. It's just not. She's maybe 5'9. 🙄 Girl, please.
I’m glad you guys talked about the negative side effects of birth control. People act like it’s no big deal to mess with women’s natural hormones but it is and the consequences can be severe. It’s especially bad on the liver and gallbladder. The shot ruined my life when I was only 25. I’m 49 now and I’ve been chronically ill and getting worse over time. My doctor didn’t tell me any of the potential side effects of the shot and now I’m permanently disabled and on social security disability. I’m sure some women are fine on birth control but I worry about the long term consequences. There are a lot of women who are chronically ill in this country who don’t have answers to their health issues. I sometimes wonder if birth control is one of the culprits. I did want to say something about Hannah. I think she’s being mean because she’s insecure. Nick described himself accurately: 5’11, medium build, a football player. He’s definitely taller than her. Even when she was wearing her 3 inch heels at the reveal he was taller than her. I think her issue stems from her discomfort with her weight. She said she was super insecure about it. I have struggled with my weight too and so I know what it feels like to be with a guy who’s smaller than me weight wise. I just feel big and lumbering by comparison. It’s a constant reminder that I’m not as attractive as I’d like to be. I think she has the ick but it’s not because of Nick. It’s because she doesn’t like the way she feels about herself when she’s around him but she can’t face it so she’s projecting the negativity she feels about herself onto him. I think that’s probably why she’s mean in general. She just doesn’t like herself and she’s hypercritical with herself which causes her pain which in turn causes her to lash out and be hypercritical of the people around her. I think she needs therapy so she can face what’s really going on with her and take accountability for the pain she’s inflicting on herself and others. Just my opinion based on my own experience of having similar issues and having been shamed by my mother for my weight issues as a child. Thanks for the fun recap. You guys are great.
Tyler is in no way a sperm donor. The mother has come out and said as much. The mother also released videos from Christmas 2023, and the kids are literally calling him Daddy. People, for some reason, look at the way the mother dresses and that she's had relationships with women and somehow think it's impossible for her and Tyler to have had a relationship and children together. The mother's ex-wife has also come forward with their divorce papers/custody battle (because the ex-wife is actually on the birth certificate for the oldest child) and Tyler is named and declares that he is not only the bio dad, but is fully active in their lives. Tyler and the mother fully iced out the ex-wife from the oldest, she has 0 custody, even though she's legally the mother of the boy. He was in the delivery room for the birth of the twins and they have his last name. He is also in arrears for the twins as well. He's a deadbeat, not a sperm donor
Funny, but right now another story going vital. "I agreed to get an older woman pregnant and she tried to ruin my life". This is similar story, but gives you totally different perspective on the same facts. That is why I'm not into "allegation equals guilty" thing...
@@liveyourlifefree Dude there's literally court evidence to back up what the ex wife said, there's a custody hearing set for next month of this year. There's photo evidence proving that he lied when he said the kid don't know what he looks like. But you're "not into" looking at evidence, you'd rather look at the story being told by the person who got caught and admitted to lying multiple times? That says a lot about the type of person you are frankly.
My heart breaks 💔 for Ashley, she doesn't deserve this manipulation by Tyler, the conversation about Kids came up multiple times,why did he tell her from the jump?
I think I've come around some on NIck... I am sure he still has a lot of issues but he is pretty easy going especially with Hannah negging on him 24/7. Both her brother and parents probably see and take Nick's side in a lot of this. Hannah was exceptionally great meeting Nick's parents so she is capable of being a nice partner.
I think there is more to that...I get the feeling that Hannah is the way she is based on how her family has treated her - not an excuse, would benefit from some therapy. 🚩🚩🚩 Locking cupboards, cutting off at 18 and seemingly not questioning/challenging Nick at all? Nick - his parents still pay his insurance AND phone? I get sharing or staying in a plan, but it seems that he actually doesn't contribute at all financially?
@@micheller2161 Hi Michelle.. I did notice tension at the meet up with Hannah's parents and how sweet she was with Nick's mom & dad. Were we ever told why she was cut off by her parents at 18 yo? She come into an inheritance and she blew through it maybe? Hope Nick and Vanessa ask her why at the reunion... on the opposite end Nick was very sheltered and protected by his parents...does he pay rent for his basement space, because he has a job so he could pay rent. Nick & Hannah definitely won't get married.
I thought on screen it said, "Tyler is a dog". Not "Tyler's dog". 🤣😂 LIB needs to do shady titles like The Bachelorette does, I live for it, lol. Ashley and Monica ( previously) needed No Scrubs song playing in the background of both their scenes. Some of these men omfg, is this the best of the best they could find for these 2 queens. Tyler did not tell Ashley the whole truth during their season so she isn't going into the marriage episodes knowing what us the watching audience knows, and he's probably running a good game on her about his children and she could buy all he's feeding her because at this point she is invested into Tyler. I am happy Monica found out early and didn't have to go to the altar portion.
Can't wait for your LIB Habibi reactions! I only watched the first episode so far. They speak a combo of Arabic, English, French and north African from what I caught so far :)
I couldn't stand Ramses this episode after the way he talked about birth control and the way he was pushing it onto her and refusing to wear a cond*m. It's so bad for women's bodies and he's just being so selfish and ignorant about it. I was actually getting really heated watching that lol 😅
Awww, Duke looks wonderful on your wall. Such a beautiful tribute! And I like seeing the estate sale bird picture centered in between you when you're filming!
In an interview Tyler said this about not telling Ashley about the kids " Was no set time frame. There was never going to be the right time to let Ashley know. I didnt want to talk about it on camera so I shared with her off camera and Ashley asked for the discussion to happen on camera" so hes trfilin, disrespectful and out of pocket..i agree with everything you both said about him and I feel horrible for Ashley. If you were really only a donor and nothing else then you wouldn't had hid it from her 💜
You guys notice how cold Hannah’s parents were in comparison to nicks? So sad for Hannah bc I think she genuinely doesn’t even know how to be that warm. It’s also seemingly why Nick feels so comfortable with his mediocrity bc his parents big him up so much which is sweet. Ramses had some major issues for me, it was giving I critical of fascism until it’s my dick bc my dick is a fascist, and in punk, anarchist, Marxist circles there’s way too many dudes like this and it SUCKS.
There are pics all over Instagram of him with his children. It definitely is not a sperm donation situation. I've read on reddit that he is also behind in child support, but who knows? Those are just additional rumors. Maybe we'll find out the truth during the tell-all.
I might be a person on the spectrum, I don't speak for the majority but for me in a new environment, with new people around, especially if I like them or if I need to positively impress them, I need those type of info like how much water to put to cook pasta. I am always afraid of screwing up and I also assume that everybody knows their tools and how they work the best, better than me, and I need to ask a lot of specific little apparently stupid questions. Some people have been triggered bad by this aspect of me, but I have to or I panic not knowing exactly what to do. I will ask only once, but I will. 😅 Well, tbh I would probably not ask how much water to use for boiling pasta...but I'm also Italian so that's like encrypted in my DNA by now.😂
Yes, this! I'm AuDHD and my brain shuts down around people in general, but especially with new people and in new environments. I forget how to do simple tasks that I've done a million times, I can't answer basic questions about myself when asked a direct question, etc. It's extremely frustrating and often embarrassing for me. Autistic and ADHD people often experience frequent criticism for minor things from a young age, and so we tend to be primed to be told we're doing things wrong and to feel shame about it. Years ago, I was in an emotionally abusive relationship where I was constantly criticized for everything I did, whether it was how I cut vegetables, how I ordered food at a restaurant, the music I played, etc. I literally could not do anything right in my ex-partner's eyes. I really empathized with Nick during the cooking scene, because that has most definitely been me. She clearly needs to work on herself before she can be in a relationship with anyone. I really hope he dumped her.
Given how dismissive Ramses was about the impact the military had/has on Marissa's life (growing up on bases; serving herself), is it really surprising that he'd be so dismissive of her feelings about her decision about birth control? Seems like a pattern of lack of empathy when his ideas or needs are challenged.
Very well put. I don’t want him for her; they are not a match. She deserves a man who genuinely cares about her needs and wants with the respect she deserves and this one is NOT it.
@@le9065 the birth control thing is so aggravating. He can't have his cake and eat it too. "I don't want you to feel pressured, but I'm not going to wear a condom and I don't want a baby now." Like....what Mr Progressive can take his ass to the clinic
Just a reminder that Hannah said her mum used to lock the pantry to stop her snacking and she's apparently lived on her own since 18 so while Hannah has her issues, I don't really trust her family and how not on her side they seem to be like there's a lack of loyalty I'm not loving in light of certain facts Hannah has told us about them... " We would have thrown you out a long time ago" -" it's not him "- "are you serious"- "you seem to be stressed" etc - her family give me bad vibes, I'm sorry
Yes, exactly! Also she said it really quickly, but she mentioned that they did cut her off at 18. I've known people in that situation and they had the same kind of cutting humour as Hannah. They can be difficult people to be friends with, but it doesn't come out of nowhere.
@@Max-ql2pv I didn't even realise but yeah, I was looking at the full picture like - I'm not sure this chill vibe Hannah's family tried to give at the meet up isn't underlined with some could be quite bad vibes idk. All I know is my family might find me annoying but they would never dog me out like that in these seemingly innocent ways in front of others unless they're like close family friends. Cf Alex's family type deal for an example of how the family ought to be like even if they do know aspects of your character that you need to improve on
I do wonder if Hannah’s version of events is true just because we’ve seen her embellish things already on the show. It seems odd that parents who allegedly cut you off at 18 would joke about cutting you off years ago 8 years later. And for her personality to not immediately say “yeah well you did that already” as a comeback seems like perhaps Hannah made that shit up. I really hope it gets addressed at the reunion
Ramses is so progressive, until Marissa asks him to wear a condom !? How annoying. Also, I don't like Hannah, but remember her mom was locking the snack cabinets so it's probably their fault (her parents) she's all neurotic and mean
I appreciate you and another commenter mentioning this. Im willing to entertain a “hurt people hurt people” argument for some of her behavior. Still dont love it, but y’all are right we shouldnt just take the parents word straight up
@membriash I love you guys ! Listen, I'm no fan of Hannah's, but I think getting cut off young and the body shaming probably made her mean or sensitive? Also, what did you guys think of progressive Ramses being like , take birth control, that's a woman's job ?!?
I think the duck thing affected Hannah more than we know. I like her and I like Nick. If she continues being as she was with her family and his family, it could be great IMO.
I’m so glad you came around in your opinion of the scientists! I’m binge watching your recaps and I enjoy seeing your thoughts on them evolve. They’ve been my favorites since day 1. I hope they make it.
Love shouldn't ever be blind because RED Flags should always be seen.🚩🚩🚩 Tyler is a conniving lowdown dog lying about his three kids, for his kids sake and for Ashley the woman he will be marrying on this reality show.
Ramses is starting to piss me off!! He's all about being progressive, a feminist, and comfortable with his masculinity..whatsoever. But he's all about his own needs. "I need sex to be enjoyable!" (A condom doesn't hurt dumbass) And when Marissa feels sick or tired and does NOT want to have sex in that particular moment, accept a no, buddy! But he's like: "I need to make sure that this won't be the case all the time...." What a weak man! He's like "It's okay when you don't wanna be touched at the moment..." but clearly, he is not okay with it and puts pressure on her. He just wants to have a "cool girl". RUN GIRL RUN!! 🚩🚩🚩
With this context, Ramses doesn’t need to get married at this point in time, what he needs is to continue growing by himself as a person to be a more legit progressive person, because his words and actions do not make sense.
I predict only 2 weddings at this point as well. The fact that we haven't reached the meet the pod cast episode yet means a ton more drama is gonna go down
I think it is not only the fact that he lied but him hiding 3 kids tells everything about the kind of dad that he could be with her. So double betrayal
The pill I take now has been perfect for me for years, but the first brand I took almost made me never try it again. I also prefer no condom (with a trusted long term partner of course) so it sucked for a few years because the first brand I took literally made me have my period for two months and my chest hurt so badly. It was extremely rough, I’m glad though that I tried one more time with a different form because it’s been great. I actually feel better taking it.
I do not like Hannah, but you all okaying Nick Ds weaponized incompetence is also not okay.. this man in the pods talked up so much and even said he could cook.. Now, he is 28-29yo and doesn’t even know if he has car insurance because he has never paid a bill, can’t boil pasta, doesn’t even know pasta comes from a cabinet and not a fridge, doesn’t know basic retirement, 401k, doesn’t know how to clean( not even just throwing out the tradh), had a cat but doesn’t wake up early enough to feed it and let’s his dad do it and says he is in charge of the cuddles, etc.. he doesn’t know anything at all
Marissa's moms voice was driving me crazy as to who she sounded like, had to close my eyes and listen to her..Sandra Bernhard. Marrissa's mom pulls no punches but she is protective to the highest degree probably because she watched LIB and seen what could play out. Wish Ashleys dad had stronger papa bear energy too.
I am not trusting Hannah's family, personally. I thought it was weird that Cade met Nick at a separate dinner from the "family" meeting. Given that her family cut her off at 18 and we don't know why, it made me wonder if the parents are some shade of anti-LGBTQ, but Hannah stood up for Cade? Cade and Hannah are clearly very close. Might be a reach, but I've know people in those situations. So I wouldn't be surprised. Doesn't excuse how cutting and even cruel she can be to Cade and Nick. But it did cast a new light on the situation for me to learn more about her in this episode. Ramses' reaction made me really angry. Even without the pregnancy concern, this means he's not thinking about any STI or the health of his partners. It's a really selfish stance to take. I liked him and Marissa so much up to now, but now I kind of hope they don't get married. Because what happens if Marissa ever has to take medication that diminishes her s-x drive? What if she goes through a depression? Is he gonna complain about his needs while she's taking care of her physical or mental health? Only couple I'm rooting for anymore are Taylor and Garrett. But who knows what happens in the next batch of episodes. Doesn't look promising from the previews. Side note: all of the pineapple items Hannah brought Nick's parents was lowkey hilarious to me. Especially when she said, "here's a pineapple serving dish for when you host parties". 😂
@@Max-ql2pv AHH, I'm glad you spotted it too, something is off with them like how families can act fake normal nice in public but you see the cracks and inconsistencies here there everywhere. Like you're so right, why did we meet Hannah's brother separate to her wider family. The way they said she was stressed etc, I wouldn't be surprised if being in their presence was why. Hannah definitely still has problems being a bit too nagging in her negative side comments but that sort of thing is just annoying like I don't think it makes her a fundamentally bad person especially if it turns out to be motivated by past events and trauma which is looking more likely the more we learn about her family...
What a traumatic experience to go through... poor Ashley! She was so happy she found love and now the whole world is watching it fail because of that liar. He fooled me too, I thought he was great. What a shock. I don't know how would I be able to trust someone after being put through this experience! Terrible, just terrible.
I feel like she had the ick because of him very soon but just kept kinda lying to herself that everything is fine because she really wanted to give it a shot and because she really wants to find love. He behaved very weirdly even before this big reveal (always talking about sex in a very weird unsexy way...)
Wayyy too many "I'm depressed/anxious/ADHD but I'd never leave my home in such a state" comments that I wonder who people are performing for that they are willing to not only try shame strangers online, but also be unkind to their potential future selves. Being 'untidy/messy' is morally neutral. Being judgemental , harsh & probably ableist, is not morally neutral. Let's be kind
I think Hannah got a little redemption when meeting Nick's parents... at first I thought gosh i hate her BUT I think she's just putting a wall to avoid getting hurt. She prob had to grow independent too fast and is trying to be rigid with how "she should behave as a mature adult" I think she's even trying to suppress her own personality to "appear more mature" as a girl that has her life figured out.
Watching LIB USA has me so burnt out I just couldn’t do this season on my own so I watch it through y’all but please tell me why I’m even drained still. Ofcourse to no fault of you guys, you’re great you make it bearable but what tf is this season??? Where is the love??? I just cannot deal!
Ramses' politics are the same as me and my partner and friends so he doesn't sound ballsy to me but then I remembered how many LIB contestants have been MAGA
Me too. I also think fetishes are fine, and Monica’s very close minded about that particular thing. And I need to know more about Tyler. I’d be Psyched if my partner was a ‘sperm uncle’ - and I’m not sure if I And I wish I was Taylor and didn’t take things personally. We need a queer, non-religious LIB. Oh, and non-military, liberal……even poly. All of these shows are Sooooo conservative! Come to San Fran LIB!!!
@QurVgn I think the sperm uncle is great BUT he should have told Ashley in the pods. clear communication is necessary in all relationships including wonderful blended unconventional families. If I had been chatting with Tyler and he'd explained his family setup I would have been super happy for them all and that's a green flag to me in some ways actually. but if the person did not disclose I would be quite upset.
I just laughed when Hannah behaved like an angel in front of Nick's parents. But with HER parents and also with her brother she was sooo mean to Nick. Poor guy (though, I get why she is annoyed by his childish and very depending persona...but still..) Hannah gives me Irina vibes.
Hanah and Nick have lived the exact opposite lives...one was forced to raise herself the other still lives with the parents... they could really balance each other out if they learn from each other...and HANAHs attitude is really cause of being kicked out so young...shes got a chip on her shoulder and it probably still hurts...and everytime i hear her listing her roster of stuff she can do and has done...i keep thinking this is young HANAH saying to her parents look i can do alll these things now... still trying to prove herself to them....and then the irony of NICK staying home well into his 20s, cant boil water but being loved unconditionally....
Hannah might be embarrassed to see how she’s actually been behaving on this show towards him. Meeting with his family and his super sweet family might have given her a much needed mindset adjustment that she needed. People seem to remember that my partner is a person too when they meet the family. I think the family brings it back down to earth. Ashley deserves a lot better. He already had his chance and many chances every time they talked about children. This was not a clinic ‘sperm donation’ situation. He repeatedly slept with one or both of those women for years and is part of those kids lives. He’s a mess. He probably wanted to tie her up with paying his child support too before she realized he had kids. A gross violation of trust. Also, the couple who is having unprotected sex is beyond ridiculous to me. It’s not all on her to prevent pregnancy, but the both of them are responsible for at least practicing safe sex. It’s so reckless that I’m looking at them both differently right now. Nice to see you folks again. I haven’t been commenting because I’ve barely been watching. The recruiters at US were just looking in th3 trash bins apparently.
I'm with Nick on the cooking. Just answer his questions. Regarding Nick & Hannah saying nice things to each other, from the edit it seems like he had to ask but he told her unprompted. I felt bad for her brother. Garrett & Taylor are still my favorite couple. I hope they're doing well. Regarding Tyler & Ashley - I do agree that he should have told her earlier. It does seem like in LiB US they are afraid to tell, like Jessica in an earlier season while in LiB Mexico, they were more open about their families/kids.
Love Is Blind Habibi is a PROBLEM lol. There are so many Muslim cultural nuances that makes discussing it on a platform very challenging lol. So good luck to you two!
I appreciate the heads up. Now you got me nervous! Time to dust off my anthropological appreciation for drastically different cultures that I have little understanding and perspective of
I do not like Hannah, but okaying Nick Ds weaponized incompetence is also not okay.. this man in the pods talked up so much and even said he could cook.. Now, he is 28-29yo and doesn’t even know if he has car insurance because he has never paid a bill, can’t boil pasta, doesn’t even know pasta comes from a cabinet and not a fridge, doesn’t know basic retirement, 401k, doesn’t know how to clean( not even just throwing out the tradh), had a cat but doesn’t wake up early enough to feed it and let’s his dad do it and says he is in charge of the cuddles, etc.. he doesn’t know anything at all
It sounds like Tyler gave his friend a beautiful gift but he’s being so weird about it that it comes off as not that. He’s the one making it off. It’s so strange.
Apparently, Tyler's problem isn't having the 3 kids, it's untruthfulness, borrowing money without paying it back and other significant character problems.
I agree that she needs to polish her way of delivering her feelings. I loved that scene with the brother. I 100% think that she is putting up a wall. If Nick gets through her, she will finally be vulnerable and sweet. I like their relationship (hated it until the very last episode).
i guess like, if you reeeeally wanted to find an excuse for tyler a little bit, you could argue that he didn't feel comfortable sharing that in front of the cameras, which would've been impossible to do in the pods and very hard on the honeymoon. but then again, he signed up for the show right? unless he didn't think it would get this serious and once it got, he told her about it off camera and then we only saw the aftermath? they didn't show us how she found out, if he fessed up at some point i guess that's a little bit better than her finding out through other means. i mean, it's still shady af, and all the stuff that is coming out now about him is also pretty shady. but it doesn't necessarily mean that he didn't genuinely fall in love with her, and made the mistake of taking too long to tell her, maybe the presence of the cameras contributing to it. idk, it's just that she seems to be sorta defending him on social media, so i guess she found a way to forgive him, or at least not want people to scrutinize him for that. we've only seen her shocked reaction right after finding out, so her opinion could've changed idk, i'm just rambling at this point, this situation is just very confusing and makes absolutely no sense to me😅
The things coming out about Tyler are not great. Not only does he have children, and lies about how involved he is. He's also a deadbeat money wise. He's scammed many many women out of money. And owes tons in back child support. He's nice on the eyes.... but he is not relationship material right now.
Im not saying Hannah isnt cringy bad, but I think her behavior is making Nick seem better in certain areas that I think we should squint at. Like is he financially ready to be married? Cause no one looks as financially ready as Tim....and maybe Leo 😂😂😂😂
I do not like Hannah, but yeah Nick is so bad too.. okaying Nick Ds weaponized incompetence is also not okay.. this man in the pods talked up so much and even said he could cook.. Now, he is 28-29yo and doesn’t even know if he has car insurance because he has never paid a bill, can’t boil pasta, doesn’t even know pasta comes from a cabinet and not a fridge, doesn’t know basic retirement, 401k, doesn’t know how to clean( not even just throwing out the tradh), had a cat but doesn’t wake up early enough to feed it and let’s his dad do it and says he is in charge of the cuddles, etc.. he doesn’t know anything at all
I know some are saying just teach him, but how many things are you going to end up having to teach him if he doesn't know how to do such a basic thing? I wouldn't want to end up in a relationship where I feel like I'm teaching my son how to be an adult.
I feel like a lot of these major conflicts in this season weren’t fully shown to the audience. We’ve missed some significant parts of these arguments that are very confusing. The editing has been very poor this season…
if Hannah keeps calling Nick “short” Nick might as well start making “fat” jokes (although we all know Nick will not do that). Disgusting, Hannah, disgusting.
don't be offended you guys but i don't think there's anything funny about the way marrisa's mom was speaking and acting towards ramses so idg why you guys were cacklling so much in that scene. is the joke in the room with us ?
Im not offended, but since your asking, we both laugh when uncomfortable or even depressed. I cracked a few jokes while we put our dog down two months ago (jokes about how positive his life had been, but jokes nonetheless) and then cried every day since. We also didnt feel quite as negative about Vanessa until the second watch while editing, in particular how she talks about Marissa. I think the kids making the volleyball team joke and being all around enjoyable people kept us in a lighter mood
Nick weaponizes incompetence and I see so many people defending him because Hannah is such a nuisance. Hannah is insecure and mean but so is Nick. Nick doesn’t like Hannah and he’s just not saying it. Anytime Hannah ask him anything he says but what about or what do you think? He is so unserious about actually being a husband. So is Hannah.
I cannot stand Ramses and I'm kinda surprised to see reactors give hime so much grace. If he’s so anti military why did he get with Marissa in the first place? She was very open from the beginning that it was a big part of her life Have your beliefs, if you don’t like the military that’s fine, but why are you with her when you clearly hate a huge part of her? He was so rude and judgemental too. He’s like tiktok liberal you can tell he gets all his talking points from the internet like “the military is unethical” “having money is unethical” “I love Palestine” “I’m morally superior to you bc I feel more empathy for strangers around the world than the people in my life”. He is so annoying and his beliefs are so fake. And with the refusal to wear condoms. To be like “I’m so morally superior to you I’m an amazing person bc I actually care about other people” but then refuse to wear condoms bc it doesn’t feel as good and you’d rather her mess up her hormones lmao dude
I’m glad you guys talked about the negative side effects of birth control. People act like it’s no big deal to mess with women’s natural hormones but it is and the consequences can be severe. It’s especially bad on the liver and gallbladder. The shot ruined my life when I was only 25. I’m 49 now and I’ve been chronically ill and getting worse over time. My doctor didn’t tell me any of the potential side effects of the shot and now I’m permanently disabled and on social security disability. I’m sure some women are fine on birth control but I worry about the long term consequences. There are a lot of women who are chronically ill in this country who don’t have answers to their health issues. I sometimes wonder if birth control is one of the culprits. I did want to say something about Hannah. I think she’s being mean because she’s insecure. Nick described himself accurately: 5’11, medium build, a football player. He’s definitely taller than her. Even when she was wearing her 3 inch heels at the reveal he was taller than her. I think her issue stems from her discomfort with her weight. She said she was super insecure about it. I have struggled with my weight too and so I know what it feels like to be with a guy who’s smaller than me weight wise. I just feel big and lumbering by comparison. It’s a constant reminder that I’m not as attractive as I’d like to be. I think she has the ick but it’s not because of Nick. It’s because she doesn’t like the way she feels about herself when she’s around him but she can’t face it so she’s projecting the negativity she feels about herself onto him. I think that’s probably why she’s mean in general. She just doesn’t like herself and she’s hypercritical with herself which causes her pain which in turn causes her to lash out and be hypercritical of the people around her. I think she needs therapy so she can face what’s really going on with her and take accountability for the pain she’s inflicting on herself and others. Just my opinion based on my own experience of having similar issues and having been shamed by my mother for my weight issues as a child. Thanks for the fun recap. You guys are great.
Nick is absolutely taller than hannah even in heels. She's insecure about being "bigger/broader" than him. Period. I'm much taller than hannah and this is not a height problem. It's just not. She's maybe 5'9. 🙄 Girl, please.
She has a Big back huh? Built like a linebacker?
Hahahaha I know you didn’t mean it but that broader part had me cackling 😂😂
@@dalubuhlengwenya7188 oop! 😆
100%! The insecurity comes from her and she puts that on him and keeps being mean to him - i’m getting tired of it. Like girllll!!!!
I’m glad you guys talked about the negative side effects of birth control. People act like it’s no big deal to mess with women’s natural hormones but it is and the consequences can be severe. It’s especially bad on the liver and gallbladder.
The shot ruined my life when I was only 25. I’m 49 now and I’ve been chronically ill and getting worse over time. My doctor didn’t tell me any of the potential side effects of the shot and now I’m permanently disabled and on social security disability.
I’m sure some women are fine on birth control but I worry about the long term consequences. There are a lot of women who are chronically ill in this country who don’t have answers to their health issues. I sometimes wonder if birth control is one of the culprits.
I did want to say something about Hannah. I think she’s being mean because she’s insecure. Nick described himself accurately: 5’11, medium build, a football player. He’s definitely taller than her. Even when she was wearing her 3 inch heels at the reveal he was taller than her.
I think her issue stems from her discomfort with her weight. She said she was super insecure about it. I have struggled with my weight too and so I know what it feels like to be with a guy who’s smaller than me weight wise. I just feel big and lumbering by comparison. It’s a constant reminder that I’m not as attractive as I’d like to be.
I think she has the ick but it’s not because of Nick. It’s because she doesn’t like the way she feels about herself when she’s around him but she can’t face it so she’s projecting the negativity she feels about herself onto him.
I think that’s probably why she’s mean in general. She just doesn’t like herself and she’s hypercritical with herself which causes her pain which in turn causes her to lash out and be hypercritical of the people around her.
I think she needs therapy so she can face what’s really going on with her and take accountability for the pain she’s inflicting on herself and others.
Just my opinion based on my own experience of having similar issues and having been shamed by my mother for my weight issues as a child.
Thanks for the fun recap. You guys are great.
You hit the nail on the head with every point
Tyler is in no way a sperm donor. The mother has come out and said as much.
The mother also released videos from Christmas 2023, and the kids are literally calling him Daddy.
People, for some reason, look at the way the mother dresses and that she's had relationships with women and somehow think it's impossible for her and Tyler to have had a relationship and children together.
The mother's ex-wife has also come forward with their divorce papers/custody battle (because the ex-wife is actually on the birth certificate for the oldest child) and Tyler is named and declares that he is not only the bio dad, but is fully active in their lives.
Tyler and the mother fully iced out the ex-wife from the oldest, she has 0 custody, even though she's legally the mother of the boy.
He was in the delivery room for the birth of the twins and they have his last name.
He is also in arrears for the twins as well.
He's a deadbeat, not a sperm donor
Funny, but right now another story going vital. "I agreed to get an older woman pregnant and she tried to ruin my life". This is similar story, but gives you totally different perspective on the same facts. That is why I'm not into "allegation equals guilty" thing...
@@liveyourlifefree Dude there's literally court evidence to back up what the ex wife said, there's a custody hearing set for next month of this year. There's photo evidence proving that he lied when he said the kid don't know what he looks like. But you're "not into" looking at evidence, you'd rather look at the story being told by the person who got caught and admitted to lying multiple times? That says a lot about the type of person you are frankly.
Aw on your beautiful doggie, Duke on your wall. The light rays beaming on Duke's painting feels so angelic ♥
My heart breaks 💔 for Ashley, she doesn't deserve this manipulation by Tyler, the conversation about Kids came up multiple times,why did he tell her from the jump?
I think I've come around some on NIck... I am sure he still has a lot of issues but he is pretty easy going especially with Hannah negging on him 24/7. Both her brother and parents probably see and take Nick's side in a lot of this. Hannah was exceptionally great meeting Nick's parents so she is capable of being a nice partner.
I think there is more to that...I get the feeling that Hannah is the way she is based on how her family has treated her - not an excuse, would benefit from some therapy. 🚩🚩🚩 Locking cupboards, cutting off at 18 and seemingly not questioning/challenging Nick at all? Nick - his parents still pay his insurance AND phone? I get sharing or staying in a plan, but it seems that he actually doesn't contribute at all financially?
@@micheller2161 Hi Michelle.. I did notice tension at the meet up with Hannah's parents and how sweet she was with Nick's mom & dad. Were we ever told why she was cut off by her parents at 18 yo? She come into an inheritance and she blew through it maybe? Hope Nick and Vanessa ask her why at the reunion... on the opposite end Nick was very sheltered and protected by his parents...does he pay rent for his basement space, because he has a job so he could pay rent. Nick & Hannah definitely won't get married.
I thought on screen it said, "Tyler is a dog". Not "Tyler's dog". 🤣😂 LIB needs to do shady titles like The Bachelorette does, I live for it, lol.
Ashley and Monica ( previously) needed No Scrubs song playing in the background of both their scenes. Some of these men omfg, is this the best of the best they could find for these 2 queens.
Tyler did not tell Ashley the whole truth during their season so she isn't going into the marriage episodes knowing what us the watching audience knows, and he's probably running a good game on her about his children and she could buy all he's feeding her because at this point she is invested into Tyler. I am happy Monica found out early and didn't have to go to the altar portion.
Can't wait for your LIB Habibi reactions! I only watched the first episode so far. They speak a combo of Arabic, English, French and north African from what I caught so far :)
I watched it all in a row😂😂
Erm...no such language called North African exists....
@@Back2Me365🙄 clearly the person is not sure what language it is but is fairly certain of where it's spoken at.
@@Back2Me365 you are correct - I was trying to remember how to say Berber which is also used is Moroocco and it just wasn't coming to me.
@@amazingperson326 Thank you - yes I just couldn't remember one of the languages used in Morocco
I couldn't stand Ramses this episode after the way he talked about birth control and the way he was pushing it onto her and refusing to wear a cond*m. It's so bad for women's bodies and he's just being so selfish and ignorant about it. I was actually getting really heated watching that lol 😅
Wait for the beginning in the next episode... he pisses me off!
@@jk-ln9wu 💯 I hope she doesn't marry him tbh
Awww, Duke looks wonderful on your wall. Such a beautiful tribute! And I like seeing the estate sale bird picture centered in between you when you're filming!
In an interview Tyler said this about not telling Ashley about the kids " Was no set time frame. There was never going to be the right time to let Ashley know. I didnt want to talk about it on camera so I shared with her off camera and Ashley asked for the discussion to happen on camera" so hes trfilin, disrespectful and out of pocket..i agree with everything you both said about him and I feel horrible for Ashley. If you were really only a donor and nothing else then you wouldn't had hid it from her 💜
You guys notice how cold Hannah’s parents were in comparison to nicks? So sad for Hannah bc I think she genuinely doesn’t even know how to be that warm. It’s also seemingly why Nick feels so comfortable with his mediocrity bc his parents big him up so much which is sweet. Ramses had some major issues for me, it was giving I critical of fascism until it’s my dick bc my dick is a fascist, and in punk, anarchist, Marxist circles there’s way too many dudes like this and it SUCKS.
There are pics all over Instagram of him with his children. It definitely is not a sperm donation situation. I've read on reddit that he is also behind in child support, but who knows? Those are just additional rumors. Maybe we'll find out the truth during the tell-all.
His own mother even commented on how great her grandkids are. That is not a sperm donor situation like he claims to be.
I might be a person on the spectrum, I don't speak for the majority but for me in a new environment, with new people around, especially if I like them or if I need to positively impress them, I need those type of info like how much water to put to cook pasta. I am always afraid of screwing up and I also assume that everybody knows their tools and how they work the best, better than me, and I need to ask a lot of specific little apparently stupid questions. Some people have been triggered bad by this aspect of me, but I have to or I panic not knowing exactly what to do.
I will ask only once, but I will. 😅
Well, tbh I would probably not ask how much water to use for boiling pasta...but I'm also Italian so that's like encrypted in my DNA by now.😂
Yes, this! I'm AuDHD and my brain shuts down around people in general, but especially with new people and in new environments. I forget how to do simple tasks that I've done a million times, I can't answer basic questions about myself when asked a direct question, etc. It's extremely frustrating and often embarrassing for me. Autistic and ADHD people often experience frequent criticism for minor things from a young age, and so we tend to be primed to be told we're doing things wrong and to feel shame about it.
Years ago, I was in an emotionally abusive relationship where I was constantly criticized for everything I did, whether it was how I cut vegetables, how I ordered food at a restaurant, the music I played, etc. I literally could not do anything right in my ex-partner's eyes. I really empathized with Nick during the cooking scene, because that has most definitely been me. She clearly needs to work on herself before she can be in a relationship with anyone. I really hope he dumped her.
I don’t know how I missed your channel but I’m glad I found it. Subbing!!
Given how dismissive Ramses was about the impact the military had/has on Marissa's life (growing up on bases; serving herself), is it really surprising that he'd be so dismissive of her feelings about her decision about birth control? Seems like a pattern of lack of empathy when his ideas or needs are challenged.
Very well put. I don’t want him for her; they are not a match. She deserves a man who genuinely cares about her needs and wants with the respect she deserves and this one is NOT it.
@@le9065 the birth control thing is so aggravating. He can't have his cake and eat it too. "I don't want you to feel pressured, but I'm not going to wear a condom and I don't want a baby now." Like....what Mr Progressive can take his ass to the clinic
Just a reminder that Hannah said her mum used to lock the pantry to stop her snacking and she's apparently lived on her own since 18 so while Hannah has her issues, I don't really trust her family and how not on her side they seem to be like there's a lack of loyalty I'm not loving in light of certain facts Hannah has told us about them...
" We would have thrown you out a long time ago" -" it's not him "- "are you serious"- "you seem to be stressed" etc - her family give me bad vibes, I'm sorry
Yes, exactly! Also she said it really quickly, but she mentioned that they did cut her off at 18. I've known people in that situation and they had the same kind of cutting humour as Hannah. They can be difficult people to be friends with, but it doesn't come out of nowhere.
@@Max-ql2pv I didn't even realise but yeah, I was looking at the full picture like - I'm not sure this chill vibe Hannah's family tried to give at the meet up isn't underlined with some could be quite bad vibes idk. All I know is my family might find me annoying but they would never dog me out like that in these seemingly innocent ways in front of others unless they're like close family friends.
Cf Alex's family type deal for an example of how the family ought to be like even if they do know aspects of your character that you need to improve on
I do wonder if Hannah’s version of events is true just because we’ve seen her embellish things already on the show. It seems odd that parents who allegedly cut you off at 18 would joke about cutting you off years ago 8 years later. And for her personality to not immediately say “yeah well you did that already” as a comeback seems like perhaps Hannah made that shit up. I really hope it gets addressed at the reunion
Ramses is so progressive, until Marissa asks him to wear a condom !? How annoying. Also, I don't like Hannah, but remember her mom was locking the snack cabinets so it's probably their fault (her parents) she's all neurotic and mean
I appreciate you and another commenter mentioning this. Im willing to entertain a “hurt people hurt people” argument for some of her behavior. Still dont love it, but y’all are right we shouldnt just take the parents word straight up
@membriash I love you guys ! Listen, I'm no fan of Hannah's, but I think getting cut off young and the body shaming probably made her mean or sensitive?
Also, what did you guys think of progressive Ramses being like , take birth control, that's a woman's job ?!?
I think the duck thing affected Hannah more than we know. I like her and I like Nick. If she continues being as she was with her family and his family, it could be great IMO.
I’m so glad you came around in your opinion of the scientists! I’m binge watching your recaps and I enjoy seeing your thoughts on them evolve. They’ve been my favorites since day 1. I hope they make it.
The scientist couple is the best! I only believe in their relationship. Everything else is trash now.
Love shouldn't ever be blind because RED Flags should always be seen.🚩🚩🚩
Tyler is a conniving lowdown dog lying about his three kids, for his kids sake and for Ashley the woman he will be marrying on this reality show.
I binge watched Habibi. Can't wait for your reviews.
Ramses is starting to piss me off!! He's all about being progressive, a feminist, and comfortable with his masculinity..whatsoever. But he's all about his own needs. "I need sex to be enjoyable!" (A condom doesn't hurt dumbass) And when Marissa feels sick or tired and does NOT want to have sex in that particular moment, accept a no, buddy! But he's like: "I need to make sure that this won't be the case all the time...." What a weak man! He's like "It's okay when you don't wanna be touched at the moment..." but clearly, he is not okay with it and puts pressure on her. He just wants to have a "cool girl". RUN GIRL RUN!! 🚩🚩🚩
With this context, Ramses doesn’t need to get married at this point in time, what he needs is to continue growing by himself as a person to be a more legit progressive person, because his words and actions do not make sense.
I predict only 2 weddings at this point as well. The fact that we haven't reached the meet the pod cast episode yet means a ton more drama is gonna go down
oh I forgot that was still to come. good point!
I think it is not only the fact that he lied but him hiding 3 kids tells everything about the kind of dad that he could be with her. So double betrayal
I relate to Alex's apartment a lot 😂 usually Its just my room tho, I try and keep the living room and kitchen cleanish
Thats the big brain move
So happy to see this as soon as i got home
wait what's the "membri" part of membriash? lol
The pill I take now has been perfect for me for years, but the first brand I took almost made me never try it again. I also prefer no condom (with a trusted long term partner of course) so it sucked for a few years because the first brand I took literally made me have my period for two months and my chest hurt so badly. It was extremely rough, I’m glad though that I tried one more time with a different form because it’s been great. I actually feel better taking it.
I do not like Hannah, but you all okaying Nick Ds weaponized incompetence is also not okay.. this man in the pods talked up so much and even said he could cook.. Now, he is 28-29yo and doesn’t even know if he has car insurance because he has never paid a bill, can’t boil pasta, doesn’t even know pasta comes from a cabinet and not a fridge, doesn’t know basic retirement, 401k, doesn’t know how to clean( not even just throwing out the tradh), had a cat but doesn’t wake up early enough to feed it and let’s his dad do it and says he is in charge of the cuddles, etc.. he doesn’t know anything at all
I just started watching LIB Habibi, and the entire cast is STUNNING 😍.
I've seen episode 1 and I can't wait for the reactions :)
The women are insanely gorgeous, the clothes, the location ... Everything looks amazing. Definitely looking forward to the comments/takes
@JustAnEmptyCageGirl , I was blown away with the fashion, makeup, jewelry, etc. I felt so frumpy watching 😁
Fell in love with you guys from the very first video I saw, keep up the good work!
Marissa's moms voice was driving me crazy as to who she sounded like, had to close my eyes and listen to her..Sandra Bernhard. Marrissa's mom pulls no punches but she is protective to the highest degree probably because she watched LIB and seen what could play out. Wish Ashleys dad had stronger papa bear energy too.
I don't like that Netflix scouts the men out but the women apply.
Hamnah is just here to gain a career. That's it.
Love your guys videos 🫶
I am not trusting Hannah's family, personally. I thought it was weird that Cade met Nick at a separate dinner from the "family" meeting. Given that her family cut her off at 18 and we don't know why, it made me wonder if the parents are some shade of anti-LGBTQ, but Hannah stood up for Cade? Cade and Hannah are clearly very close. Might be a reach, but I've know people in those situations. So I wouldn't be surprised.
Doesn't excuse how cutting and even cruel she can be to Cade and Nick. But it did cast a new light on the situation for me to learn more about her in this episode.
Ramses' reaction made me really angry. Even without the pregnancy concern, this means he's not thinking about any STI or the health of his partners. It's a really selfish stance to take. I liked him and Marissa so much up to now, but now I kind of hope they don't get married. Because what happens if Marissa ever has to take medication that diminishes her s-x drive? What if she goes through a depression? Is he gonna complain about his needs while she's taking care of her physical or mental health?
Only couple I'm rooting for anymore are Taylor and Garrett. But who knows what happens in the next batch of episodes. Doesn't look promising from the previews.
Side note: all of the pineapple items Hannah brought Nick's parents was lowkey hilarious to me. Especially when she said, "here's a pineapple serving dish for when you host parties". 😂
@@Max-ql2pv AHH, I'm glad you spotted it too, something is off with them like how families can act fake normal nice in public but you see the cracks and inconsistencies here there everywhere. Like you're so right, why did we meet Hannah's brother separate to her wider family. The way they said she was stressed etc, I wouldn't be surprised if being in their presence was why.
Hannah definitely still has problems being a bit too nagging in her negative side comments but that sort of thing is just annoying like I don't think it makes her a fundamentally bad person especially if it turns out to be motivated by past events and trauma which is looking more likely the more we learn about her family...
☝️☝️☝️☝️ This. I don't trust Hannah's family and really feel there are a lot of unpacked childhood traumas there. Too many 🚩🚩🚩
What a traumatic experience to go through... poor Ashley! She was so happy she found love and now the whole world is watching it fail because of that liar. He fooled me too, I thought he was great. What a shock. I don't know how would I be able to trust someone after being put through this experience! Terrible, just terrible.
I feel like she had the ick because of him very soon but just kept kinda lying to herself that everything is fine because she really wanted to give it a shot and because she really wants to find love. He behaved very weirdly even before this big reveal (always talking about sex in a very weird unsexy way...)
Tyler had every opportunity to talk about the kids in the pods !!!!!!
Wayyy too many "I'm depressed/anxious/ADHD but I'd never leave my home in such a state" comments that I wonder who people are performing for that they are willing to not only try shame strangers online, but also be unkind to their potential future selves. Being 'untidy/messy' is morally neutral. Being judgemental
, harsh & probably ableist, is not morally neutral. Let's be kind
I think Hannah got a little redemption when meeting Nick's parents... at first I thought gosh i hate her BUT I think she's just putting a wall to avoid getting hurt. She prob had to grow independent too fast and is trying to be rigid with how "she should behave as a mature adult" I think she's even trying to suppress her own personality to "appear more mature" as a girl that has her life figured out.
Watching LIB USA has me so burnt out I just couldn’t do this season on my own so I watch it through y’all but please tell me why I’m even drained still. Ofcourse to no fault of you guys, you’re great you make it bearable but what tf is this season??? Where is the love??? I just cannot deal!
Habibi was sooooooo entertaining! Its a season of Shake's from US s2 and it was downright off putting at times but not a dull moment
i’m actually loving LIB habibi
Ramses' politics are the same as me and my partner and friends so he doesn't sound ballsy to me but then I remembered how many LIB contestants have been MAGA
Me too. I also think fetishes are fine, and Monica’s very close minded about that particular thing. And I need to know more about Tyler. I’d be Psyched if my partner was a ‘sperm uncle’ - and I’m not sure if I And I wish I was Taylor and didn’t take things personally.
We need a queer, non-religious LIB. Oh, and non-military, liberal……even poly. All of these shows are Sooooo conservative! Come to San Fran LIB!!!
@QurVgn I think the sperm uncle is great BUT he should have told Ashley in the pods. clear communication is necessary in all relationships including wonderful blended unconventional families. If I had been chatting with Tyler and he'd explained his family setup I would have been super happy for them all and that's a green flag to me in some ways actually. but if the person did not disclose I would be quite upset.
I just laughed when Hannah behaved like an angel in front of Nick's parents. But with HER parents and also with her brother she was sooo mean to Nick. Poor guy (though, I get why she is annoyed by his childish and very depending persona...but still..) Hannah gives me Irina vibes.
Hanah and Nick have lived the exact opposite lives...one was forced to raise herself the other still lives with the parents... they could really balance each other out if they learn from each other...and HANAHs attitude is really cause of being kicked out so young...shes got a chip on her shoulder and it probably still hurts...and everytime i hear her listing her roster of stuff she can do and has done...i keep thinking this is young HANAH saying to her parents look i can do alll these things now... still trying to prove herself to them....and then the irony of NICK staying home well into his 20s, cant boil water but being loved unconditionally....
I just started watching LIB Habibi and I'm eager to hear you guys' commentary!
Hannah might be embarrassed to see how she’s actually been behaving on this show towards him. Meeting with his family and his super sweet family might have given her a much needed mindset adjustment that she needed. People seem to remember that my partner is a person too when they meet the family. I think the family brings it back down to earth.
Ashley deserves a lot better. He already had his chance and many chances every time they talked about children. This was not a clinic ‘sperm donation’ situation. He repeatedly slept with one or both of those women for years and is part of those kids lives. He’s a mess. He probably wanted to tie her up with paying his child support too before she realized he had kids. A gross violation of trust.
Also, the couple who is having unprotected sex is beyond ridiculous to me. It’s not all on her to prevent pregnancy, but the both of them are responsible for at least practicing safe sex. It’s so reckless that I’m looking at them both differently right now.
Nice to see you folks again. I haven’t been commenting because I’ve barely been watching. The recruiters at US were just looking in th3 trash bins apparently.
I'm with Nick on the cooking. Just answer his questions.
Regarding Nick & Hannah saying nice things to each other, from the edit it seems like he had to ask but he told her unprompted. I felt bad for her brother.
Garrett & Taylor are still my favorite couple. I hope they're doing well.
Regarding Tyler & Ashley - I do agree that he should have told her earlier. It does seem like in LiB US they are afraid to tell, like Jessica in an earlier season while in LiB Mexico, they were more open about their families/kids.
yaaay! currently housing a terrible full-body topical allergic reaction so this drop is especially nice right now
He said he makes chicken salad, tuna salad. Never said he cooks anything else!
Tyler--He did an interview talking about how he "didn't regret" waiting until then to tell her. He's such a turd for that.
Hannah's family is great
Hannah with her family is very cute. They create an enjoyable, open, funny, less serious environment.
Love Is Blind Habibi is a PROBLEM lol. There are so many Muslim cultural nuances that makes discussing it on a platform very challenging lol. So good luck to you two!
I appreciate the heads up. Now you got me nervous! Time to dust off my anthropological appreciation for drastically different cultures that I have little understanding and perspective of
@@membriash 😂 Godspeed!
The misogyny is *intense* on that show, yikes.
Exactly. Not worth the risk in my opinion. I won’t be watching that version of LIB.
Unhinged! I couldn't take my eyes off of it 😬😬😬😬
Duke - your permanent tongue-out, “Hi! Hi’”! Photo-bomb. Lovehimsomuch ❤
Also, Jerry in that hoodie. More, please
I can see that Nick is a manchild, but he is willing to learn. Hannah is condescending.
Hannah hates nick but he said in the pods that he could cook. Not knowing how to boil pasta means that he lied. I wish they would end it.
Nick is not ready to get married
I do not like Hannah, but okaying Nick Ds weaponized incompetence is also not okay.. this man in the pods talked up so much and even said he could cook.. Now, he is 28-29yo and doesn’t even know if he has car insurance because he has never paid a bill, can’t boil pasta, doesn’t even know pasta comes from a cabinet and not a fridge, doesn’t know basic retirement, 401k, doesn’t know how to clean( not even just throwing out the tradh), had a cat but doesn’t wake up early enough to feed it and let’s his dad do it and says he is in charge of the cuddles, etc.. he doesn’t know anything at all
Tyler is a baby daddy, not a sperm donor. The kids have his last name. He also swindled his ex out of money, it makes me sick 🤢
It sounds like Tyler gave his friend a beautiful gift but he’s being so weird about it that it comes off as not that. He’s the one making it off. It’s so strange.
Apparently, Tyler's problem isn't having the 3 kids, it's untruthfulness, borrowing money without paying it back and other significant character problems.
I looked up the Pacific Sheepshead and wow that's a beast of a fish
Thank you for getting ramses together!!!!!….marissa doesnt mind getting pregnant 🙄don’t be annoying ramses
Never thought Id be warned that there is going to be an ad on a youtube video.
31:01 I feel like the conversations are better, probably because the cast is mostly in their 30s and more mature/experienced.
Fantasy LIB match. Marisa and Leo. If Leo told Marisa mom that Marisa had to sign a prenup. Would she have different energy for that?
Vasectomy exists damn it!!
Hannah cooking in the leather jacket. nooo, what is happening?
I agree that she needs to polish her way of delivering her feelings. I loved that scene with the brother. I 100% think that she is putting up a wall. If Nick gets through her, she will finally be vulnerable and sweet. I like their relationship (hated it until the very last episode).
i guess like, if you reeeeally wanted to find an excuse for tyler a little bit, you could argue that he didn't feel comfortable sharing that in front of the cameras, which would've been impossible to do in the pods and very hard on the honeymoon. but then again, he signed up for the show right? unless he didn't think it would get this serious and once it got, he told her about it off camera and then we only saw the aftermath? they didn't show us how she found out, if he fessed up at some point i guess that's a little bit better than her finding out through other means. i mean, it's still shady af, and all the stuff that is coming out now about him is also pretty shady. but it doesn't necessarily mean that he didn't genuinely fall in love with her, and made the mistake of taking too long to tell her, maybe the presence of the cameras contributing to it. idk, it's just that she seems to be sorta defending him on social media, so i guess she found a way to forgive him, or at least not want people to scrutinize him for that. we've only seen her shocked reaction right after finding out, so her opinion could've changed idk, i'm just rambling at this point, this situation is just very confusing and makes absolutely no sense to me😅
THANK YOU
You two are cute and fun to watch with!
They are his kids. He had seggs with a lesbian friend. It’s not like they went to clinic according to story.
Ashley asking what the genders of his kids are and hearing that he has girls so her girl with him wouldn't be his first you could see it on her face.
I like how Garret and Taylor grew on yall 😉😅
The things coming out about Tyler are not great. Not only does he have children, and lies about how involved he is. He's also a deadbeat money wise. He's scammed many many women out of money. And owes tons in back child support. He's nice on the eyes.... but he is not relationship material right now.
Im not saying Hannah isnt cringy bad, but I think her behavior is making Nick seem better in certain areas that I think we should squint at. Like is he financially ready to be married? Cause no one looks as financially ready as Tim....and maybe Leo 😂😂😂😂
Thank you, that's been my stance the whole season.
I do not like Hannah, but yeah Nick is so bad too.. okaying Nick Ds weaponized incompetence is also not okay.. this man in the pods talked up so much and even said he could cook.. Now, he is 28-29yo and doesn’t even know if he has car insurance because he has never paid a bill, can’t boil pasta, doesn’t even know pasta comes from a cabinet and not a fridge, doesn’t know basic retirement, 401k, doesn’t know how to clean( not even just throwing out the tradh), had a cat but doesn’t wake up early enough to feed it and let’s his dad do it and says he is in charge of the cuddles, etc.. he doesn’t know anything at all
i too would end a relationship over someone not knowing how to cook pasta at the ripe age of 28
Thank you! Same!
You could just show them lol. The willingness to learn would be the aspect that matters.
I know some are saying just teach him, but how many things are you going to end up having to teach him if he doesn't know how to do such a basic thing? I wouldn't want to end up in a relationship where I feel like I'm teaching my son how to be an adult.
Ramses needs to try other brands of condoms bc he should not be having that issue.
I feel like a lot of these major conflicts in this season weren’t fully shown to the audience. We’ve missed some significant parts of these arguments that are very confusing. The editing has been very poor this season…
if Hannah keeps calling Nick “short” Nick might as well start making “fat” jokes (although we all know Nick will not do that). Disgusting, Hannah, disgusting.
don't be offended you guys but i don't think there's anything funny about the way marrisa's mom was speaking and acting towards ramses so idg why you guys were cacklling so much in that scene. is the joke in the room with us ?
Im not offended, but since your asking, we both laugh when uncomfortable or even depressed. I cracked a few jokes while we put our dog down two months ago (jokes about how positive his life had been, but jokes nonetheless) and then cried every day since. We also didnt feel quite as negative about Vanessa until the second watch while editing, in particular how she talks about Marissa. I think the kids making the volleyball team joke and being all around enjoyable people kept us in a lighter mood
Nick weaponizes incompetence and I see so many people defending him because Hannah is such a nuisance. Hannah is insecure and mean but so is Nick. Nick doesn’t like Hannah and he’s just not saying it. Anytime Hannah ask him anything he says but what about or what do you think? He is so unserious about actually being a husband. So is Hannah.
Ashley really is very sweet and lovely.
Which one tho?
@@jennifernilenie2855 lol TY Tyler's fiance
These sesson is a messs.. for real gurl 😅
Tyler completely manipulated Ashley.
I cannot stand Ramses and I'm kinda surprised to see reactors give hime so much grace. If he’s so anti military why did he get with Marissa in the first place? She was very open from the beginning that it was a big part of her life Have your beliefs, if you don’t like the military that’s fine, but why are you with her when you clearly hate a huge part of her?
He was so rude and judgemental too. He’s like tiktok liberal you can tell he gets all his talking points from the internet like “the military is unethical” “having money is unethical” “I love Palestine” “I’m morally superior to you bc I feel more empathy for strangers around the world than the people in my life”. He is so annoying and his beliefs are so fake.
And with the refusal to wear condoms. To be like “I’m so morally superior to you I’m an amazing person bc I actually care about other people” but then refuse to wear condoms bc it doesn’t feel as good and you’d rather her mess up her hormones lmao dude
It’s annoying that you a grown man on love is blind looking for a wife and don’t know how to cook something as simple as pasta.
Ay chica yo no cocino..por Dios eso no me define.😂
Habibi is interesting from the cultural point of view but it's awful at the same time, with toxic, contnroling men.
this is episode 7 , don't lie😢.
What about the Billionaire's that are actively working on giving away their wealth?
I’m glad you guys talked about the negative side effects of birth control. People act like it’s no big deal to mess with women’s natural hormones but it is and the consequences can be severe. It’s especially bad on the liver and gallbladder.
The shot ruined my life when I was only 25. I’m 49 now and I’ve been chronically ill and getting worse over time. My doctor didn’t tell me any of the potential side effects of the shot and now I’m permanently disabled and on social security disability.
I’m sure some women are fine on birth control but I worry about the long term consequences. There are a lot of women who are chronically ill in this country who don’t have answers to their health issues. I sometimes wonder if birth control is one of the culprits.
I did want to say something about Hannah. I think she’s being mean because she’s insecure. Nick described himself accurately: 5’11, medium build, a football player. He’s definitely taller than her. Even when she was wearing her 3 inch heels at the reveal he was taller than her.
I think her issue stems from her discomfort with her weight. She said she was super insecure about it. I have struggled with my weight too and so I know what it feels like to be with a guy who’s smaller than me weight wise. I just feel big and lumbering by comparison. It’s a constant reminder that I’m not as attractive as I’d like to be.
I think she has the ick but it’s not because of Nick. It’s because she doesn’t like the way she feels about herself when she’s around him but she can’t face it so she’s projecting the negativity she feels about herself onto him.
I think that’s probably why she’s mean in general. She just doesn’t like herself and she’s hypercritical with herself which causes her pain which in turn causes her to lash out and be hypercritical of the people around her.
I think she needs therapy so she can face what’s really going on with her and take accountability for the pain she’s inflicting on herself and others.
Just my opinion based on my own experience of having similar issues and having been shamed by my mother for my weight issues as a child.
Thanks for the fun recap. You guys are great.