It sings sooooo lovely :D I've been searcing for a TRUE DD BLDC motor sound and this is by far the best! And a great DIY rebuild of the motor, awesome bike frame design and cool look of the completely open motor stator. It may be a bit affected by dirt and water but the look is sooo geeky that it compensates every downside. Thanks!
Sounds like it could benefit from a Field Oriented Control (FOC) driver circuit. Probably would increase the torque and efficiency too. But I don't want to take away from the accomplishment, well done, excellent work.
@@chimpchowder5774 I think you might be surprised how much better it would sound if he used an FOC ESC. It would be more torquey too. I happen to think that his effort was worth it, and he doesn't need to start from square one.
Συγχαρητηρια για την εμπνευση και την εκτελεση, τοσο του μηχανικου μερους, οσο και της παρουσιασης. Μπραβο, παντα ετσι-μια πνοη φρεσκαδας και αισιοδοξιας!
Собрал я себе электро байк с таким мотором, поставил батарею 48в, но только через цепь, передаточное отношение 1/2,5 скорость примерно 40 км/час, но тянет отлично. Соединил катушки параллельно, и провод фазный пришлось делать 4квмм, а то грелись.
48vDC would require you to increase your turns/coil in winding to be effective, but this means you'll decrease your wire gauge, therefore increasing resistance-- assuming youre still using the star connection. ultimately you'll have more ampereturns (torque), but as far as range goes, it might still be roughly the same. have you looked into a delta connection?
with that generator you can mount another electric motor to roll the bicycle and with a battery the generator automatically charges the battery, excellent application, greetings from Venezuela
yes i'm thinking what happens with those exposed coils if it starts to rain, water & electric dont mix, it's either going to short out or not work i'd suspect
@@jaromor8808 What it means in all of the US. Really never seen these weirdo's writing "of" instead of "have"? That is all. You see? Should have done a shot...
What make and model washing machine did you get the parts from. I haven’t seen these style of motors here in the United States. I have gathered several motors out of washing machine and have not come across these yet.
It’s a thing of beauty, but it also reminds me that the professionals designing the boring off-the-shelf electric bike motors are pretty talented too. No offence!
The original winding design would provide the most efficiency and torque, that would mean having a 120V battery pack with mosfet's to generate the three phase. I am not sure if the original controller applied the full 120V to the windings. Just an idea shared for future proto type designs.
You are right there my friend this should have been a very powerful bike something isn't right these have crazy foot pounds of torque and RPM and they are a very efficient motor
@@fenderstratguy You are right a bout Europe. I have found manufacturers don't like to make different parts for different models of devices. In this case they would make winding bridge connections, parallel for 120V and series for 240V.
do you know how to make a power cell eco bike just put the motor on the wheel as you have just done and put one also on the front and then start pedalling and use the front to power the back. the throttle has to be let out in order to keep from reaching full speed or it will wawa at top energy only. just use big motor and only cruise and it work.
So this is just to generate low voltage high amps to charge batteries or is it actually powering the bike? if it is powering the bike how did you make a 3 phase motor into an e-bike motor? I must know??? How!!!
@@awog4203 you are wrong my friend this is a very powerful motor he has the winding wrong he should have left it the way it was and the controller is all wrong also these are very powerful efficient very high RPM Motors with lots of low-end torque almost perfect for this application if done correctly
1.) PLA isn't weather resistant; UV degradation and rain/moisture damage could be avoided by using PETG filament. 2.) You could probably waterproof all electrical components and the motor itself (excluding the PLA spacer) by spraying CorrosionX. This should also prevent rusting, although I'm concerned about liquid getting between the rotor and stator, esp. with the high tolerances 3.) What are the downsides of a front hub motor? It sounds much easier than working with the back wheel. 4.) What are the absolute max ratings before it overheats? I can't find any documentation for the motor online. 5.) What does each of the 4 pins do on the Hall effect sensor that comes with the motor? Which pin is which? Excellent work, regardless!
Great workmanship and implementation but it's a shame the motor didn't get you better results. After messing with such setups i came up to a conclusion my self that says 1) Whatever accelerates slower and doesn't do more speed than my foot is useless (with 3 gear changes i'm idling at 40kph before i even realize it). 2) Whatever doesn't pass me through those steep hills that usually get me exhausted and force me stop is useless too.
is a nice sound, reminds you of an engine (albeit a washing machine motor) being revved up while pedalling (although i used to do 60 km/h downhill Godley rd, titirangi/green bay, auckland, new zealand past my school bus back in 1999, could ride an ave 35 km/h on the flat (no assist, just my legs and lungs))
What if for example u put an truck dynamo between then it automatically recharge at least for a big part and the output of one from a truck is pretty high? Please correct me if I'm wrong,just sharing thoughts
U can add a circut of dynamic breaking which will reduce speed while charging batteries in return not wasting energy in heat ..Will give u extra range...in fact it's a simple circut useing some diodes n voltage regulator n a relay ...diodes prevent current back from battery in dynamic charging mode as when u break relay moves power circut to charging circut ...reducing speed ..
I dont understand what your powering this with but you have a controller? For what purpose? Yes stator makes electricity but your saying your using the stator cover to rotate the back wheel with a chain attached to it.
for torque on hills you need more current, not voltage, use a different controller. Also, neo magnets will reduce speed and increase torque, so then higher V will be good.
More voltage with the same impedance gets you more amperage... It's simple math. It's also why it's not just the amps kill you. You need enough voltage to get enough amperage to kill you.
@@willgeorge5644 the controller has a maximum current and a maximum voltage. You're gonna need a new controller push more volts so you can push more amps.
@@jjhack3r maximum voltage rating of the controller is just that, the maximum that you can apply without damaging it. It limits the current by measuring it with an internal shunt resistor, and reduces the average voltage it puts out with pwm if the current tries to exceed the limit current, it is a limit, not a rating, though if you shorted the shunt you could get destructive currents. So, to get more torque you need to replace the controller with one with a higher limit. (all else being equal).
I am not that familiar with coil windings, but what exactly did you change? It looks as if they had 12 1 in coils wound in series and you rewind them how? In parallel? They don't look like they're in parallel. Or did they have them in parallel and you wound them in series? Wait if you wanted lower voltage and higher torque you would have had to have wound them in parallel, correct?
What was causing it to make the noise? (Almost like something grinding, but the motor isn't geared at all as far as I'm aware.) Seems like an energy loss somewhere in the setup if it's doing that.
Looking at the title and keeping in mind how my machine runs, for once i thought if you do use the assembly of motor your bicycle would run 4 seconds forward and the next 4 seconds backward. 24 hours ride would gain you not an inch more
5 років тому
The logic board tells the motor which way to spin, not the motor its self 😂
without peddling the motor isn't working, when freewheeling it's just the same as freewheeling on any other bike, there's no power from the motor without peddling, the motor assists the peddling. I think ...
because the motor assists the peddling, you go faster with less effort. so the standard EBikes we can buy here means you can cycle up a hill at 30mph. or 20mph easily for people that would usually have to get off and walk because the incline is too steep for them on a normal bike. what's redundant is putting a motor on a bicycle that doesn't pedal assist .. because we all ready have motorbikes.
te escribo desde bolivia.. hay alguna manera de contactarse con la persona que realizo este proyecto? me parece muy bueno y quisiera saber mas detalles
The best sounding electric bike ever made!
Sounds better than a rice burner.
sounds like an inline 6
Your knees are bent all the time. Looks like you’re sitting too low.
What happens when it hits the spin cycle ?? 😂😂, but seriously, hats off to the mans ingenuity 👍🏻👍🏻
@@naitranaitra8196 with infinite revs
Be careful with programming. When you are almost home, the spin starts!
LOL
Lol
That's what he wants a sprint at the finish!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Let me guess you`re from india
It sings sooooo lovely :D I've been searcing for a TRUE DD BLDC motor sound and this is by far the best! And a great DIY rebuild of the motor, awesome bike frame design and cool look of the completely open motor stator. It may be a bit affected by dirt and water but the look is sooo geeky that it compensates every downside.
Thanks!
Well it sure makes a nice decoration and I'm sure LG appreciates the brand recognition. Thanks for sharing.
Wow, this machine already looks great. I am waiting for painting and other final touches.
Yeah, I hope it’s yellow.
Sounds like it could benefit from a Field Oriented Control (FOC) driver circuit. Probably would increase the torque and efficiency too.
But I don't want to take away from the accomplishment, well done, excellent work.
that was also my first thought 😂
dreggory82 haha. Go back to square one. There is no power source! No battery! It's just making noise!
@@chimpchowder5774 I think you might be surprised how much better it would sound if he used an FOC ESC. It would be more torquey too. I happen to think that his effort was worth it, and he doesn't need to start from square one.
What like hall sensors?
Very cool, keep it up, we need people like you and your ideas. Thanks for sharing your video.
Omg such good work. I am so impressed! The self fabricated hub and the whole bicycle frame!
Συγχαρητηρια για την εμπνευση και την εκτελεση, τοσο του μηχανικου μερους, οσο και της παρουσιασης. Μπραβο, παντα ετσι-μια πνοη φρεσκαδας και αισιοδοξιας!
Sounds like playing racing games on my C64, C128 or Amiga's lol. Nice vid
Собрал я себе электро байк с таким мотором, поставил батарею 48в, но только через цепь, передаточное отношение 1/2,5 скорость примерно 40 км/час, но тянет отлично. Соединил катушки параллельно, и провод фазный пришлось делать 4квмм, а то грелись.
Raced this guy the other day. He rinsed me on a quick cycle :D
Good one! LOL!!! 🤣😆😄
LMAO
Yeah, he hung me out to dry, too.
Genius
@@lapdog1479 brilliant
Nice work fella. Look forward to upgrades you are going to make.
So creative!!! DOPE!!!
This guy have the knowledge in electricity and fabrication
48vDC would require you to increase your turns/coil in winding to be effective, but this means you'll decrease your wire gauge, therefore increasing resistance-- assuming youre still using the star connection. ultimately you'll have more ampereturns (torque), but as far as range goes, it might still be roughly the same. have you looked into a delta connection?
with that generator you can mount another electric motor to roll the bicycle and with a battery the generator automatically charges the battery, excellent application, greetings from Venezuela
wow! what an awesome trike! Love the exposed brushless motor.. so cool..
This is the most JDM e-bike ever xD Awesome!
Why?
@@jonathansmedley123 japanese domestic market
good work very efficient generator
This bike is a work of art! Excellent work mate!
Would really like to see the derailleur hanger. Makes me wonder why not flip this to the drive side, cassette on outside of frame....
Wow! I have an lg front loader and it sounds just like it amazing to see it on a bike. Lol
Awesome job 👍 i am searching for the controller 1×12. But still i didn't get
Can you show the wiring tree please. How could you use this motor without using AC current? Which electric element have you installed on the bike?
I like how the coils are exposed, looks very nice !
yes i'm thinking what happens with those exposed coils if it starts to rain, water & electric dont mix, it's either going to short out or not work i'd suspect
Awesome!!! but should of done a shot so we can see the Full bike in action 😁
what does "should of done" mean please?
@@jaromor8808 we can not see the bike from an outer view.. we only see the wheel
@@jaromor8808 What it means in all of the US. Really never seen these weirdo's writing "of" instead of "have"? That is all. You see? Should have done a shot...
What make and model washing machine did you get the parts from. I haven’t seen these style of motors here in the United States. I have gathered several motors out of washing machine and have not come across these yet.
LG
What is the way to modify the engine please ❤️
This is incredible brother that you took the time to get it done. I would love one.
What happens if you accidentally push the extra high spin cycle? 😂😂
Would he do a burnout or a 360 if he hit the high spin cycle¿! LoL
You get " washed out ".
That's turbo!
Donuts! And I bet he sticks to the inside of the rims
i guess you have never seen the little rascals movie
Is the project's purpose to charge your batteries only?
This is awesome! I have the same drive, can you do a video explaining the wiring?
It’s a thing of beauty, but it also reminds me that the professionals designing the boring off-the-shelf electric bike motors are pretty talented too. No offence!
عجب ،عجب !
صنعت چه پیشرفت شایانی کرده است.
(یک اصفهانی در نیویورک)
The original winding design would provide the most efficiency and torque, that would mean having a 120V battery pack with mosfet's to generate the three phase. I am not sure if the original controller applied the full 120V to the windings.
Just an idea shared for future proto type designs.
You are right there my friend this should have been a very powerful bike something isn't right these have crazy foot pounds of torque and RPM and they are a very efficient motor
If he’s in Europe might his original wiring be 220v?
@@fenderstratguy You are right a bout Europe. I have found manufacturers don't like to make different parts for different models of devices. In this case they would make winding bridge connections, parallel for 120V and series for 240V.
Close your eyes it a V8 C63 AMD MERC. BRILLIANT 👏👏
Put another one in the front and have one generate electricity/ charge the battery and the other for propulsion.
Impressive tadpole EMTB !
do you know how to make a power cell eco bike just put the motor on the wheel as you have just done and put one also on the front and then start pedalling and use the front to power the back. the throttle has to be let out in order to keep from reaching full speed or it will wawa at top energy only. just use big motor and only cruise and it work.
Adds a whole new meaning to, going out for a spin.
What a cool sound is this!! very nice!!
So this is just to generate low voltage high amps to charge batteries or is it actually powering the bike? if it is powering the bike how did you make a 3 phase motor into an e-bike motor? I must know??? How!!!
You don't even need the clothes pin and playing card in the spokes with this model... brilliant.
I think the important next step is : how to make all of this "water resistant"
it is. al l the windings are in epoxy resin
Paint with acrylic
Electrical Insulating Varnish !!!
and bump resistant
So what is going here all I'm seeing is some1 still paddling hard like on a normal bike 😂
Yea same, what a weak shitty motor lol. Should’ve just mounted a dc motor meant for driving stuff...not spinning clothes
Simple logic for a simple mind.
no bro, that is fast, u see he paddling abit but go fast
@@awog4203 you are wrong my friend this is a very powerful motor he has the winding wrong he should have left it the way it was and the controller is all wrong also these are very powerful efficient very high RPM Motors with lots of low-end torque almost perfect for this application if done correctly
@@ambersmith6517 Agreed.
1.) PLA isn't weather resistant; UV degradation and rain/moisture damage could be avoided by using PETG filament.
2.) You could probably waterproof all electrical components and the motor itself (excluding the PLA spacer) by spraying CorrosionX. This should also prevent rusting, although I'm concerned about liquid getting between the rotor and stator, esp. with the high tolerances
3.) What are the downsides of a front hub motor? It sounds much easier than working with the back wheel.
4.) What are the absolute max ratings before it overheats? I can't find any documentation for the motor online.
5.) What does each of the 4 pins do on the Hall effect sensor that comes with the motor? Which pin is which?
Excellent work, regardless!
It sounds like a very quiet 13B with ITBs
Great workmanship and implementation but it's a shame the motor didn't get you better results.
After messing with such setups i came up to a conclusion my self that says 1) Whatever accelerates slower and doesn't do more speed than my foot is useless (with 3 gear changes i'm idling at 40kph before i even realize it). 2) Whatever doesn't pass me through those steep hills that usually get me exhausted and force me stop is useless too.
Other than by peddling, what’s the motor for...? Is the motor somehow powering the bike also...?
Do you have a controller and what rpm are you getting, did you rewire the stater.....
He says he rewired from a 1 x 12 star configuration to a 12 x 1 star configuration if I am remembering his wording correctly!
Omg... that thing sounds soo cool.. (I'm more of a car guy who has taken an interest in bikes recently.. lol)
is a nice sound, reminds you of an engine (albeit a washing machine motor) being revved up while pedalling (although i used to do 60 km/h downhill Godley rd, titirangi/green bay, auckland, new zealand past my school bus back in 1999, could ride an ave 35 km/h on the flat (no assist, just my legs and lungs))
Great job! ... but why the three wheels?
The sound is pretty cool
So where exactly do you put the laundry in this thing?
What if for example u put an truck dynamo between then it automatically recharge at least for a big part and the output of one from a truck is pretty high? Please correct me if I'm wrong,just sharing thoughts
🇧🇷 Parabéns muito bom esse TESTE 👏👏👏👏 Somos da família Global Tec Brasil
br em todo lugar
Bom ver um br aqui
br ta em tudo! vamos mostar o que somos capazes de fazer!
I love the three phase brushless motor sounds like a 3 cylinder car
so whats it do just make sound ? you could do that with base ball cards tape them on ...
sounds exactly like my 500w hub motor i bought like 10 years ago for my bike 👌
U can add a circut of dynamic breaking which will reduce speed while charging batteries in return not wasting energy in heat ..Will give u extra range...in fact it's a simple circut useing some diodes n voltage regulator n a relay ...diodes prevent current back from battery in dynamic charging mode as when u break relay moves power circut to charging circut ...reducing speed ..
creo que la rueda esta golpeando con la horquilla(el brazo que sujeta la rueda) por eso hace ese ruido
Nicely done 👍 sounds cool too!👌🤙
I dont understand what your powering this with but you have a controller? For what purpose? Yes stator makes electricity but your saying your using the stator cover to rotate the back wheel with a chain attached to it.
This is amazing what a great build!
That's amazing creativity. 👍
sounds like a tiny sports car... lol
love it !
How am i suppose to convince that it was a ebike if you keep pedalling?
May be e bike without battery.
for torque on hills you need more current, not voltage, use a different controller. Also, neo magnets will reduce speed and increase torque, so then higher V will be good.
More voltage with the same impedance gets you more amperage... It's simple math. It's also why it's not just the amps kill you. You need enough voltage to get enough amperage to kill you.
@@jjhack3r with ebike setups the current is set by the controller, not the motor impedance.
@@willgeorge5644 the controller has a maximum current and a maximum voltage. You're gonna need a new controller push more volts so you can push more amps.
@@jjhack3r maximum voltage rating of the controller is just that, the maximum that you can apply without damaging it. It limits the current by measuring it with an internal shunt resistor, and reduces the average voltage it puts out with pwm if the current tries to exceed the limit current, it is a limit, not a rating, though if you shorted the shunt you could get destructive currents. So, to get more torque you need to replace the controller with one with a higher limit. (all else being equal).
@@willgeorge5644 you gave me an idea... add another shunt for half the resistance and add parallel mosfets for a larger load...
El sonido del motor de tu bici se debe al desgaste de los rodajes . Normalmente no hacen ruido.
hey brother what if i use universal fromt load washing machine motor and connect it by using 48v battery pack willl it run plzz reply
I am not that familiar with coil windings, but what exactly did you change? It looks as if they had 12 1 in coils wound in series and you rewind them how? In parallel? They don't look like they're in parallel. Or did they have them in parallel and you wound them in series? Wait if you wanted lower voltage and higher torque you would have had to have wound them in parallel, correct?
What was causing it to make the noise? (Almost like something grinding, but the motor isn't geared at all as far as I'm aware.) Seems like an energy loss somewhere in the setup if it's doing that.
Fantastica realizzazione ed ottimo esempio di recupero di materiali,bravo
crazy how this motor sounds .. how many amps what voltage?
Do you ride on the wash cycle, or the spin cycle? Which is better for just regular commuting?
Wonder how fast it would go on the spin cycle?
How fast can you go and how much power does it consume per mile ?
Sounds like a flat 6 haha, great job
So did you make a generator and peddling hard doing it? What are you charging and where is the electricity going?
That is really nice front suspension setup, is it custom made ?
e36 m3 sound,
Yugo's acceleration and speed
Малорик 😉тоже хочу на стиралке погонять .
Думаю скоро повторю опыт самоделки мотора .
Удачи дружище .
The Hotpoint bicycle, a clean machine.
What about power consumption? How much battery does it eat?
Sorry, but what am I missing? He's pedaling so what exactly is the motor doing?
Interesting,but when you are pedalling I can’t tell what’s working, your legs or the motor.
Yes that is impressive man very creative keep doing it
1:45 sounds like a 3-cylinder 2-stroke car 😂 like a Wartburg 353 for example
I have a question - What motor controller did you use? Normal e-scooter controller? Thanks
Looking at the title and keeping in mind how my machine runs, for once i thought if you do use the assembly of motor your bicycle would run 4 seconds forward and the next 4 seconds backward. 24 hours ride would gain you not an inch more
The logic board tells the motor which way to spin, not the motor its self 😂
Ahahahahahahahaha
Brilliant design!
Hi, could you please update the link "Stator rewiring info" in order to rewiring for 48v ? The link is not working.
No torque? Saw him pedal the whole time
EBikes that are legal in the UK have to be pedal driven. other wise they're motor bikes that require a licence.
@@fergusdenoon1255 well, I mean, I can understand that, but The whole time??
without peddling the motor isn't working, when freewheeling it's just the same as freewheeling on any other bike, there's no power from the motor without peddling, the motor assists the peddling. I think ...
@@fergusdenoon1255 then, I feel there is no point. Seems redundant, really, why put a motor on it if you still have ro pedal it? Dumb law.
because the motor assists the peddling, you go faster with less effort.
so the standard EBikes we can buy here means you can cycle up a hill at 30mph. or 20mph easily for people that would usually have to get off and walk because the incline is too steep for them on a normal bike.
what's redundant is putting a motor on a bicycle that doesn't pedal assist .. because we all ready have motorbikes.
This would be cool with two of those on the back wheel. One on each side! I wonder what kind of performance you could get from that?
Even from a small view, Barcelona looks great!!!
If there is a motor then what is the purpose of the pedel in that cycle
I don´t understand why you pedal when the Hub i working and where the battery is :/
If I had an electric car that sounded like this, I might not be so hesitant to adopt electric cars.
You must really like the sound of washing machines.
@@cyumadbrosummit3534 funny. But I have never heard a washing machine that sounded like that.
@@Xcieg Really? Mine sounds exactly like that.
te escribo desde bolivia.. hay alguna manera de contactarse con la persona que realizo este proyecto? me parece muy bueno y quisiera saber mas detalles