He's not implying anything about how to play something with power vs. right notes. He was recounting a story about how he was forced to perform when he was very young before he was a complete pianist. He needed money. He was lauded as a "genius" but he was anything but. Yet the people didn't know any better. Rubinstein stopped touring for a period of time to refine his technique. The Rubinstein that reemerged is the genius we know today.
Well, Rubinstein sold this so well that people believe him. However even when he was (as he stated "not finished") Rubinstein was already an excellent pianist. No question about it! Listen to his piano rolls end 1928 or 1930! 😍
@@hastensavoir7782 he did stop for a few years after the 1906 tour in the U.S., but the moment where he really studied was after he married, in 1932. He stopped giving concerts for five years, studying between ten to twelve hours a day and re learning all his repertoire. And he made his "debut" at Carnegie Hall in 1937 becoming the pianist we all know. And he did this because he didn't want his future kids will say: "Our father could be a great pianist if he had studied seriously"....
@@hastensavoir7782 yeah.....he loved to be surronded by beautiful ladies. He was a bon vivant, he lived the moment. But his mind changed when he married, for good of everybody 😁
My brother had the inmense privilege of interview him for a school "newspaper"! No journalist were allowed in his camerino but somehow he liked that little guy dearing to ask for an interview. If was a sizeable amount of time and it was, naturally "publised" in the very humble "newspaper". The master was very gentle and in good humor, answering patiently the naive questions of my brother. In those times I adored Rubinstein already and I could not believe it when my brother tell me all about the interview. For me AR was one of the most important musicians (and one of the most important artists in general) in the XX century.
Not really. Any decent classically-trained pianist with up to part technical skills could have done that.. You are as tasteless as the French, bourgeoise audience who ate hit sub-par performance up.
Proof that despite all that bombastic virtuosity in the right hand, the resolute and firm melody of the left hand is what actually carries this piece. The most important thing was there
Was there ever a more charming and patrician concert pianist. Humble, funny and warm. I always enjoy someone telling a story against themselves. If one could know what work he did between those two parts of his career one would have the golden key ! And his son was a star on Broadway in the 1970s.
I’ve always loved best when he says, ‘This is how it should go - more or less.’ At the end of a monumental career his ‘patrician’ manner (I borrow another poster’s adjective) did not allow him to appear vain or self-important.
One can fool around when he's got the fame. A master's mistake is better than anything else. However one has to keep in mind how he became what he was. You just don't get there by messing up.
and yet, Rubinstein has a greater propensity in his performances towards wrong notes and memory slips than many other pianists and this is one of the criticisms against him, some have even stated that he never had a great technique. But that is all overshadowed by his nobility and musicality when playing the piano. Rubinstein was great, but it isn't that he was the greatest in the technique department because he really wasn't
The most difficult thing is to play wrong when you know how to play right. The easiest thing is to play wrong when you don't know how to play right. Bravo Rubi...
Even as someone who got recently into classical pianos and fell in love with it. I didn’t understand what he said until I read the comments but even I realized the difference in the correct version and his accidental butchered version
I will end it for everyone about the controversy. Technique is required indeed but what Chopin meant is the melody singing in the left hand which makes this piece musical.
So often in Chopin the left hand sends a subtle message across the entire piece. Nobody wrote piano music as him. IMO, the only piano composers that pushed the frontiers of piano language after Chopin's lifetime were people like Debussy and Ravel (sadly, Ravel wrote too few music!).
Ive never seen Rubinstein try so hard as he tried here to hit the wrong notes haha. Come to think of it, I’ve also never seen him so physically expressive as I’ve seen here play these wrote notes either. Maybe he was always playing the wrong music 🎶
I read somewhere that until his wife knocked some sense into him ("practice, Arthur"), Rubinstein acknowledged that he would hit enough wrong notes in a recital to make up the next recital!
This comment section take me back to my LA class. Question 7: Summarize the passage in your own words, and explain the author’s intentions in writing it.
To the musical intellectuals commenting: As one with a more untrained ear for technical pieces, I have only heard this piece a small handful of times, and have never heard a demonstration of it played wrong, like this example. To be honest, I didn't notice the difference the first time around. Listening a few more times, I could start to make out the difference. An expert in any field can make an expert in another field feel like a complete idiot. People that have not been exposed to music, like this, can't hear the difference in such aurally complex patterns--which, for you, may not be complex because you've given your initially inexperienced brain the time to develop the ability to recognize the patterns. Don't judge, teach.
Okay this is going to sound weird: I know he's a man, but he somehow has that "strict lady teacher" face, of that one teacher we were all afraid of in school.
I think he got away with it because the keys didn't fully depress in the right hand so little sound escaped. There was enough there because the melody is in the left hand, where as the embellishment is in the right.
It is up to the virtuoso to decide on whether the piece needs strong dynamics or just let the notes do the talking. Sounds like whatever Rubenstein does is just fine with a connoisseur audience.
And ironically enough, no contemporary pianist even approaches the level of pianists of the "golden age of piano playing" (Rubinstein, Hofmann, Moiseiwitsch, Gilels and all the others) in terms of sound control, phrasing, technical freedom and musical intelligence.
allegrissimo, When the last teachers of the generation born around 1930s, 1940s dies out, there will be no continuation of master-pupil apprenticeship. The art of big music, the golden age (not only piano playing) of great music composition and performances will be over. Young generation in general lacks patience, depth, and - moreover : the reason to master something that you can’t make living by doing. As far as I am concerned - we are done as civilization, slowly moving into complete digital realm...
@@KrystofDreamJourney I couldn't agree more...in my twenties I was mentored by the great drummer Buddy Rich...traveled extensively with him, played with him, for him, was praised and scolded by him...but never out of anger or cruelty. He saw the commitment I had, the knowledge of the past Masters, he knew I loved him and revered him...and such, he kept me close, talk rarely but when he did, the lesson was so eloquent and one pointed. To this day, I feel his presence around me, telling me, "Relaxed power, proper breath, stillness in movement...the space you leave is where the music lies. Hearing Maestro speak brings back his words once more...and it's been over forty years since I was his protege.
That's real rubbish. We have Sokolov, Andras Schiff, Alexandre Lonquich, Katsaris, Volodos, we had Pogorelich till the 1990s, Argerich is still alive and still amazing when she's "on", Gryaznov might become a magnificent pianist AND musician. Stop focussing on UA-cam celebrities like all these boring Asians or the funny but overrated Lisitsa. Besides, Moiseiwitch wasn't THAT great, tbh. Nor were Barere or Cherkassky or Bolet...
Maybe im wrong but my impression is that pianist back then had much more liberty with their interpretations, every recording sounded different. Nowadays, almost everything sounds more or less the same
@@Pogouldangeliwitz +we still have Barenboim, Hamelin, Bahrami, Zimerman, Kissin (yeah sometimes not sure about him), Perahia, Dinnerstein, Gibbons and many more...
if I hear Rubenstein, my cat purring beside me. If I hear the same concert played by Lang Lang, my cat runs away, as outraged. Cats have a musical ear.
If Paul is claiming that Lang Lang belongs in a butcher shop, he's not alone to make that claim. Even Paul's cat is correct. Lang Lang has amazing technique. But this video here of Arthur Rubinstein is of a master of interpretation. As such, the next time you need a special cut, look up to see who it is cutting it for you.
From MY PERSPECTIVE, Lang Lang always distorts the masterpieces by Chopin or Liszt, which is sometimes devastating to my ears. I mostly agree with Paul; Rubinstein’s play seems to be the frame or standard of Chopin’s works that is undeniable.
To revert back to demonstrate how he played it poorly is more impressive than him playing it at his best. That's why he's a pianist and I play the piano.
The best indication of success is that people pay to see you more to experience you, not to see some special performance only you can do, and as long as you don't fuck up spectacularly, the (bourgeoise) peanut gallery will eat that shit up.
I tried explaining in other videos how real pianists sink into the keys and play every note. They don't skim and cheat. It was taken as, slam the keys and heavy muddy playing. Nothing but disagreement. As Mr. Rubinstein said in the right hand "not one single thing that was really there".
The point he's trying to get across is, fortissimo left hand, mezzo piano or piano right hand. Only a true master of the instrument (top >.001%) can achieve this to such an extent that he has reached.
Well... Another proof of the fact that he had no creativity and fantasy at the piano. He can join the group: ashkenazy richter bolet and sokolov and so many others. Good pianists but bad musicians in the sence that they never surprise with their interpretation... slaves of the score!!!
If you had read his autobiography, you would know that before Rubinstein, the “romantic” pianists were heavy on interpretation and Rubinstein was trying to play the way the composer intended.
He's not implying anything about how to play something with power vs. right notes. He was recounting a story about how he was forced to perform when he was very young before he was a complete pianist. He needed money. He was lauded as a "genius" but he was anything but. Yet the people didn't know any better. Rubinstein stopped touring for a period of time to refine his technique. The Rubinstein that reemerged is the genius we know today.
Well, Rubinstein sold this so well that people believe him. However even when he was (as he stated "not finished") Rubinstein was already an excellent pianist. No question about it! Listen to his piano rolls end 1928 or 1930! 😍
How many yrs did he stop? Did he study more Czerny to polish his technique?
@@hastensavoir7782 he did stop for a few years after the 1906 tour in the U.S., but the moment where he really studied was after he married, in 1932. He stopped giving concerts for five years, studying between ten to twelve hours a day and re learning all his repertoire. And he made his "debut" at Carnegie Hall in 1937 becoming the pianist we all know. And he did this because he didn't want his future kids will say: "Our father could be a great pianist if he had studied seriously"....
@@kaleidoscopio5 so he married quite late? 45 yrs old
@@hastensavoir7782 yeah.....he loved to be surronded by beautiful ladies. He was a bon vivant, he lived the moment. But his mind changed when he married, for good of everybody 😁
From his performances alone, I would have never imagined such a light and funny personality coming from him.
My brother had the inmense privilege of interview him for a school "newspaper"! No journalist were allowed in his camerino but somehow he liked that little guy dearing to ask for an interview. If was a sizeable amount of time and it was, naturally "publised" in the very humble "newspaper".
The master was very gentle and in good humor, answering patiently the naive questions of my brother. In those times I adored Rubinstein already and I could not believe it when my brother tell me all about the interview.
For me AR was one of the most important musicians (and one of the most important artists in general) in the XX century.
You have very limited ability of imagination and very small mind. Don’t comment at all
One still needs immense talent to be able to butcher it like this and make it sound THAT good ;)
i'm sure they noticed but it was so good they had to be quiet and listen
Play in rhythm and it will be alright
@@maxdemian6312 it does sound good and it sounds as if chopin wrote it himself
Not really. Any decent classically-trained pianist with up to part technical skills could have done that.. You are as tasteless as the French, bourgeoise audience who ate hit sub-par performance up.
Proof that despite all that bombastic virtuosity in the right hand, the resolute and firm melody of the left hand is what actually carries this piece. The most important thing was there
Was there ever a more charming and patrician concert pianist. Humble, funny and warm. I always enjoy someone telling a story against themselves. If one could know what work he did between those two parts of his career one would have the golden key ! And his son was a star on Broadway in the 1970s.
I’ve always loved best when he says, ‘This is how it should go - more or less.’ At the end of a monumental career his ‘patrician’ manner (I borrow another poster’s adjective) did not allow him to appear vain or self-important.
never ego driven, and always had a laugh at his own expense! AR loved music so much he "got out of the way" and let us enjoy music as much as he did!
One can fool around when he's got the fame. A master's mistake is better than anything else. However one has to keep in mind how he became what he was. You just don't get there by messing up.
and yet, Rubinstein has a greater propensity in his performances towards wrong notes and memory slips than many other pianists and this is one of the criticisms against him, some have even stated that he never had a great technique. But that is all overshadowed by his nobility and musicality when playing the piano. Rubinstein was great, but it isn't that he was the greatest in the technique department because he really wasn't
My piano teacher years ago told me about this! I'm so glad finally to have seen it!!
One of my favorite anecdotes!
The most difficult thing is to play wrong when you know how to play right. The easiest thing is to play wrong when you don't know how to play right. Bravo Rubi...
No, the easiest thing is to play wrong but think you play it right ;)
Even as someone who got recently into classical pianos and fell in love with it. I didn’t understand what he said until I read the comments but even I realized the difference in the correct version and his accidental butchered version
진짜 쉬워보이게 편안하게 잘 치신다 역시 루빈스타인 ㅠㅠ 어떻게 저렇게 쉽고 편안하게 겨울바람을 치냐 ㅠ
Спасибо большое автору за выложенную редкую запись!
I love the way Rubenstein plays
Such an amazing talent though and a wonderful human being
RIP legend
He was born 77 years before Chopin.
@@elias7748 you mean after, right?
@@jarko.t.i7805 lol my bad.Then that would be 1733
@@elias7748 Wait, so does that mean he wasn't born in 1733?
CHOPIN NAJPIEKNIEJSZA SPUŚCIZNA DLA LUDZKOŚCI.
Amazing Master Rubinstein!! :)))
So precious ✨
...that is how it should sound...more or less!!!
I will end it for everyone about the controversy. Technique is required indeed but what Chopin meant is the melody singing in the left hand which makes this piece musical.
So often in Chopin the left hand sends a subtle message across the entire piece. Nobody wrote piano music as him.
IMO, the only piano composers that pushed the frontiers of piano language after Chopin's lifetime were people like Debussy and Ravel (sadly, Ravel wrote too few music!).
he predicted the modern perception of classical music
beautiful
Khatia Buniatishvili draws a lot of encouragement from this video. Presumably.
He listens to music just how I do. Goes to show, you don't have to actually know how to play in order to listen to the passion behind the music.
Rubinsteins point was critics seldom know what they are talking about.
He had a sense of humor too :D
Unlike every Mr. Obvious in the comment section.
Un artista che crescendo come tale cresce anche come persona. Umiltà dei Grandi.
Funny! thank you. sure gets lots of tension off my shoulder when playing this from now on:-)
0:28 Haha he's so modest
Ive never seen Rubinstein try so hard as he tried here to hit the wrong notes haha. Come to think of it, I’ve also never seen him so physically expressive as I’ve seen here play these wrote notes either. Maybe he was always playing the wrong music 🎶
I read somewhere that until his wife knocked some sense into him ("practice, Arthur"), Rubinstein acknowledged that he would hit enough wrong notes in a recital to make up the next recital!
The dark side of Chopin 😮
What a genius!
This comment section take me back to my LA class.
Question 7: Summarize the passage in your own words, and explain the author’s intentions in writing it.
Love it! Thanks for posting!
whyyy didnt he record the whole piece whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
To the musical intellectuals commenting: As one with a more untrained ear for technical pieces, I have only heard this piece a small handful of times, and have never heard a demonstration of it played wrong, like this example. To be honest, I didn't notice the difference the first time around. Listening a few more times, I could start to make out the difference.
An expert in any field can make an expert in another field feel like a complete idiot. People that have not been exposed to music, like this, can't hear the difference in such aurally complex patterns--which, for you, may not be complex because you've given your initially inexperienced brain the time to develop the ability to recognize the patterns.
Don't judge, teach.
That lightness
He seems like a human version of ALF from a tv show.
So glad the copy I have is recorded after his realisation moment, no wonder it sounds better than the others :)
WHAT? PLEASE I NEED IT
BRO SHOW ME RIGHT NOW
I CAN'T FIND IT SHOW MEEEEEEEEEE
you dont have it
Okay this is going to sound weird: I know he's a man, but he somehow has that "strict lady teacher" face, of that one teacher we were all afraid of in school.
o. m. g.
I ever play this song
Joie de Vivre
The second variant is like Alfred Cortot play this 😃😃😃
I think he got away with it because the keys didn't fully depress in the right hand so little sound escaped. There was enough there because the melody is in the left hand, where as the embellishment is in the right.
He must have studied with Victor Borge 😂 It takes serious skills to play badly so well
Quelle émotion je ressens, j'en ai la chair de poule !
You can tell he got a kick out of playing the right hand with the wrong notes.
He said that the crowd did not recognize the mistake, period. I think he wanted to imply that the public was rather ignorant and they had bad "ears".
It is up to the virtuoso to decide on whether the piece needs strong dynamics or just let the notes do the talking. Sounds like whatever Rubenstein does is just fine with a connoisseur audience.
one cute grandpa
What 😂
Could not stop laughing 😂
And ironically enough, no contemporary pianist even approaches the level of pianists of the "golden age of piano playing" (Rubinstein, Hofmann, Moiseiwitsch, Gilels and all the others) in terms of sound control, phrasing, technical freedom and musical intelligence.
allegrissimo, When the last teachers of the generation born around 1930s, 1940s dies out, there will be no continuation of master-pupil apprenticeship. The art of big music, the golden age (not only piano playing) of great music composition and performances will be over. Young generation in general lacks patience, depth, and - moreover : the reason to master something that you can’t make living by doing. As far as I am concerned - we are done as civilization, slowly moving into complete digital realm...
@@KrystofDreamJourney
I couldn't agree more...in my twenties I was mentored by the great drummer Buddy Rich...traveled extensively with him, played with him, for him, was praised and scolded by him...but never out of anger or cruelty. He saw the commitment I had, the knowledge of the past Masters, he knew I loved him and revered him...and such, he kept me close, talk rarely but when he did, the lesson was so eloquent and one pointed. To this day, I feel his presence around me, telling me, "Relaxed power, proper breath, stillness in movement...the space you leave is where the music lies. Hearing Maestro speak brings back his words once more...and it's been over forty years since I was his protege.
That's real rubbish. We have Sokolov, Andras Schiff, Alexandre Lonquich, Katsaris, Volodos, we had Pogorelich till the 1990s, Argerich is still alive and still amazing when she's "on", Gryaznov might become a magnificent pianist AND musician. Stop focussing on UA-cam celebrities like all these boring Asians or the funny but overrated Lisitsa.
Besides, Moiseiwitch wasn't THAT great, tbh. Nor were Barere or Cherkassky or Bolet...
Maybe im wrong but my impression is that pianist back then had much more liberty with their interpretations, every recording sounded different. Nowadays, almost everything sounds more or less the same
@@Pogouldangeliwitz +we still have Barenboim, Hamelin, Bahrami, Zimerman, Kissin (yeah sometimes not sure about him), Perahia, Dinnerstein, Gibbons and many more...
Troppo forte! :)
Rubinstein=Chopin.(Mazurkas!Nocturnes!Impromptus!Trois nouvelles Études!).
if I hear Rubenstein, my cat purring beside me. If I hear the same concert played by Lang Lang, my cat runs away, as outraged. Cats have a musical ear.
Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? By claiming Lang Lang has no sense of music you completely devaluated yourself.
If Paul is claiming that Lang Lang belongs in a butcher shop, he's not alone to make that claim. Even Paul's cat is correct. Lang Lang has amazing technique. But this video here of Arthur Rubinstein is of a master of interpretation. As such, the next time you need a special cut, look up to see who it is cutting it for you.
From MY PERSPECTIVE, Lang Lang always distorts the masterpieces by Chopin or Liszt, which is sometimes devastating to my ears. I mostly agree with Paul; Rubinstein’s play seems to be the frame or standard of Chopin’s works that is undeniable.
lang lang is shit rubinstein is gold
Thanks because people named “Lang Lang” or similar tend to eat cats
To revert back to demonstrate how he played it poorly is more impressive than him playing it at his best. That's why he's a pianist and I play the piano.
Needs some high-end mics over the upper part of the keyboard...
Wonderful after the 18th Warsaw Marathon....
So... I can miss out most of the notes?
The best indication of success is that people pay to see you more to experience you, not to see some special performance only you can do, and as long as you don't fuck up spectacularly, the (bourgeoise) peanut gallery will eat that shit up.
0:49 this sounds like 10x better xd
Hilarious!
Morale: Knowing how to "fake it" is an art unto itself.
That's what she said
Please someone translate in French! I do speak English quite well but I don't get what he s saying
0:08
0:49
I tried explaining in other videos how real pianists sink into the keys and play every note. They don't skim and cheat. It was taken as, slam the keys and heavy muddy playing. Nothing but disagreement. As Mr. Rubinstein said in the right hand "not one single thing that was really there".
could someone please explain me what exactly he says in this video? I couldn't really understand but it sounds very interesting...
Rubinstein is natural no a sciebtific meticulous piano with him no sophisticated as many pianists * Zimer and competitions often
I don't think it's a matter of fudge, but faintness
Lool
THIS IS MARVELLOUS haha wow that second version sounds way better...gotta love rubinstein :P
IMHO he was trying to say "people could still cheer for you even if you messed up". It's happening even today, for better or worse.
this is really the hardest one...
op 10 no 1 is the hardest imo, one wrong note will ruin it
Agamaz Not even remotely close; no 1 is just arpeggios.
@@misterling645 it is way more e difficult than it seems. op10 1 is one of the hardest
@@misterling645 did you even play it?
hilarious. :)
😂
lmmfao
Nintendo must be banned him xD
Lol
The point he's trying to get across is, fortissimo left hand, mezzo piano or piano right hand. Only a true master of the instrument (top >.001%) can achieve this to such an extent that he has reached.
that's not even close to the point he was trying to get across
Good pianist but very overrated
Woody Allen
A Jew performing music by a gentile. Is this even allowed? Isn’t there any Jewish tunes he could play?
What's religion got to do with this you Nazi creep.
Well... Another proof of the fact that he had no creativity and fantasy at the piano. He can join the group: ashkenazy richter bolet and sokolov and so many others. Good pianists but bad musicians in the sence that they never surprise with their interpretation... slaves of the score!!!
Two things a Composer and interpreteur : without interpreteurs we don't known Composeurs and nothing more.
stupid what you write !
@@alainspiteri502 Rachmaninoff was a good composer but not the best interpreter..
Wrong
If you had read his autobiography, you would know that before Rubinstein, the “romantic” pianists were heavy on interpretation and Rubinstein was trying to play the way the composer intended.
I laughed