United Methodist Church leaders to hold landmark meeting to discuss future
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- Leaders from the United Methodist Church are set to meet for the first time in a decade after a quarter of churches in the U.S. disaffiliated because of disagreements on ordination on LGBTQ rights and same-sex marriage.
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Your report lacks some context. The UMC holds its General Conference every four years (2012, 2016, etc.). The last GC was in 2016, so it has not yet been a decade. The 2020 GC was thrown off by Covid, but the current 2024 GC happens by schedule, not because the church needed an emergency meeting, even if current agenda items are more urgent than usual.
The Bible doesn’t change for the people the people need to change for the Bible. EVERYONE is welcome at our church but as a church it’s our job to make sure you know the word of the Bible and don’t attempt to manipulate the meaning to fit your lifestyle… Read Corinthians and it’s a clear picture of what happens when you begin down this road. It’s simple. Love god and love your neighbor. I love everyone and pray that they can build a relationship with god and repent.. not continue down their path of sins. In the end god judges, not man.
Capitalize God
"Well gentlemen, which direction should we take our business?"
Make churches pay Taxes!
@@SpaceXfan2005To weaponize the tax code. People will start whining when they figure out that churches can go after 501c3 status of their favorite advocacy groups by the same standard.
@@SpaceXfan2005More revenue for actual social programs.
People who say that have no clue what the heck they are talking about.
@@SpaceXfan2005 Giving churches the special privilege of not paying taxes is unconstitutional since the First Amendment clearly says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion". Also, what basis is there for this tax exemption? Do you think it's commanded by God?
Churches gives more money to help people and charities, than the taxes it would have to pay.
Tax churches, they are just businesses like any other, its the only business that is tax exempt and that makes no sense.
I bet you believe in the separation of church and state.
You mean the U.S. Constitution? Yeah I believe in that as a true American.
Female pastors, LGBT allyship,and LGBT pastors are what I am hoping for and I am pretty sure would stop the mass exodus of people
Google is free. No need to display your stupidity here
@@SolemnseraphThe Constitution only meant to prevent a church being mandated from government. In no way did it suggest someone can't run/be voted in based on religious beliefs.
The Apostles made it very clear that women should not and will not become Preists and or Pastors. PERIOD!!!!
Ha, yes, what else should women be banned from? Driving? 😂 🤡
@@AndyNUA-camThe things of God are of God for his glory and the things of this world are for the ruler of this world which is Satan. God’s law is eternal and unchangeable. Women are not to teach or hold any position in God’s church period!
@@AndyNUA-cam 1 Timothy 2:12
1 Timothy 2:12
They haven't followed the teachings of the Lord Jesus for many years now. They can no longer be considered a Christian church.
So glad that Jesus is head over His church. "Given all authority over all things in heaven and on earth and under the earth." We see what man does when give themselves authority
Denomination is a mathmatical term. The lower number in a fraction is the denominator. Not a whole, broken. Christs prayer in John 17 is for HIS church to be one.
A church that simply reflects its surrounding culture be it right or left wing is largely unnecessary.
It's a cult if in their run away
Moderns: "My religion needs to serve me and my needs."
Jesus: "Deny yourself, take up your cross, and follow me."
NON TAX PAYING GRIFTERS
How so?
Explain to me why non profit organizations should pay taxes?
2 Timothy Chapter 4: 1-4
1) I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
3) For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4) And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
The Bible does not alter to accommodate the desires of man. Do not be fooled. The Lord warned us of this. Read your Bible. We are not called to follow man, but God. Do not be fooled. Eternity is forever.
There's a UMC church in my town and the steeple with the cross on it fell off. Appropriate.
How is that appropriate?
@@immaculateboyThe cross is a symbol of Christ. So the OP is essentially saying that while the “church” is still there Jesus isn’t with them.
Either the church is about truth or it's about money. So choose. (Somewhere I read that you can't worship God and money. Now who said that?)
A church that welcomes lgbt, i would join ❤
All churches welcome sinful people however they cannot continue to live in sin or a sinful life. Just as the drunken cannot drive so it is with God. You either sober up or lose your driving privileges. You can’t haven’t both ways.
Maybe I'll become a drag queen priest in the methodist church ⛪️✨️😍🤩
I guess the separation of the wheat and tares prophesied for the last days is not regarding individuals only but also about false churches as well.
Miller Michelle Garcia Frank Johnson Elizabeth
Grab your popcorn folks! A new religion is coming to a church near you… lol!
Sad.
Reject modernity, embrace tradition.
Come home, brothers. ✞🇻🇦
The Roman Catholic Church is not exempt from this issue. Btw our home is Christ not our group affiliation.
Instead make Christ your pope as He is the head of all things to the church.
No
Gotta make decisions based on truth not feelings or social/political trends.
This is truth.
@@rensinclair4218 what? Following the socio-political flow? Not even close.
Sin is sin. Nodding and winking at evil is just that.
*CHUMP20TOLIFE* 🇺🇸🇺🇸
It's not "evil". Being a bigot is evil
I disagree. The US government and the military and spiritual traditions are meant to be inclusive and accessible to ALL ❤
The military has standards that must be met to join. By definition, that makes it exclusive. The idea of inclusion has gone way overboard.
They all need to heed My Command. I'm Jesus and I'm getting sick of waiting for these so called "christians" to bow at My Feet.
I'm waiting for Jesus to wash mine.
Rethink means join forces with other denominations that foster the same ideas.
1st Corinthians 14: 33 " God is not the author of confusion..."
--- until there's 100s of *versions of Christianity* which _ALL_ claim to be the ONLY True Religion© .... 2:28 2:28
So... the first issue they want to chat about is how much money they're making. Got it. Secondly, don't worry too much about becoming 'liberal'. Newer generations realize that your shift in doctrine is just to get more tax free money.
They have a budget of 347 million dollars this year. Tax free. Like every religion it's a great grift as long as you can grift it to people
Doctrines of Demons..the new Methodist Church
Stop hating on The UMC. This church makes decisions like this globally. So if the UMC in Africa doesn’t want gays apart of their church, the churches in the US can’t do anything about it.
Where do you think their money comes from? Watch.
The UMC is going against God's word openly and they're hurting The Church overall in the process.
Where do you see hate? The Bible is very clear on the subject. The UMC has been moving away from Biblical truths. It's a big deal to go so much farther away. Most aren't hating. They're sad for so many to be led astray from God.
The only reason the UMC's in the other countries accepted all this sinful mess is because those bishops accepted blood money to go along with the program.
How awful. Blindness. Darkness descending.
Speaking of organized crime… religion is where it all began!
I used to like getting inside the UMCS where I was baptized and my parents were married and exploring them over and over. But both of them defected last year. Now I can't even stand to look at pictures of them.
To bad your mother gave birth to you
what r u trying to say?
@@phillipkuhlman7468 Jesus Christ is a liberal. If he was on Earth today, the conservatives would be the ones who would crucify him.
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Evidence that God is not in the church
False Jesus said in the end times there would be many false prophets
This places are not churches!
You're not Thomas Jefferson
@@rensinclair4218 what’s your point?
A map of hate…. Lol
Can't serve both God and money. You'll love the one and hate the other... That is why there's even a question of what is actually in the Bible. If you didn't have a profit to consider, you'd actually speak it correctly and stand for God.
Yeah, but these guys hardly follow the Bible anyways. They serve the "itching ear" which means they only share the things people want to hear and kinda shuffle less appreciated verses under the rug even though they're true but people might not want to hear them. Once you start cherry-picking the Bible, anything goes. There's nothing stopping someone from just making it whatever they want. They make themselves God
@@skyyyrose These "churches" are businesses/marketplaces. Jesus said to stop making His Father's House a marketplace. These are NOT the church. The Church is in the believer who worships in the truth and Spirit (John 4). God says true believers MUST worship in the truth and Spirit, not in Jerusalem or a temple, which also follows not in a cathedral or any other church building. What regular place was given to early Christians? They were being slaughtered because it was illegal to be Christian. These are the prostitute churches that bore out of Babylon the Great (Rev 17), the harlot catholic church. They are not God's church. They continue in her prostitutions to the world.
Sounds like a business!!
Repent. This is not of God.
Disagreements over the abomination of sin, how?
Some use the Bible to describe and define sin, while others want to water down and compromise their integrity and principles.
If the Bible says it's a sin, trust me it's a sin, EVEN IF ITS LEGAL.
REVELATION 21:8 SAYS HOMOSEXUALS GO INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.
Don't let them lie to you.
The apostate FALLING AWAY must happen as written.
Tell me you don’t know the original Greek or Hebrew and have 200 year old theology that the church fathers would find to be heresy and burn you at the stake without telling me…
Tucker carlson spoke about that he was raised Episcopalian if the church is like the world its not needed the liberal churches are dying like Episcopalians
@@TheyCallMeGayJesusGet right with God before you burn for eternity.
@RickWalters-sw4dn crazy is, as crazy does, especially when you know better.
@RickWalters-sw4dn I tell my bisexual 31 year old son the very same thing.
You can't change what's written in the Bible.
I can't either.
God wants you to have a family and multiply.
That's why it's wrong.
Because you will only suffer in the end and no parent wants their children to suffer
Did Jesus say to Satan, that "man must live, not by bread alone, but what the church teaches" ? No. Rather, Jesus told Satan: "It is written (at Deut 8:3): Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every word that comes from Jehovah's mouth".(Matt 4:4)
None of the churches of Christendom ' live on every word from Jehovah's mouth ', but rather set their own church doctrines and standards, such as acceptance of the LGBTQ community, as Jeremiah 5:23 stated of the nation of fleshly Israel: "But this people has a stubborn and rebellious heart; They have turned aside and gone their own way."
Read Romans 1. You won't. But you should.
jehovah’s witnesses are a joke.
@@spyoon_ Jehovah is just a name for god. We're not necessarily talking about the modern Jehovah Witness movement.
So the protestant reformation was wrong and they should just rejoin the Catholic Church? Or the Orthodox Church? Wait I'm confused.
This is what happens when they go woke!
This has nothing to do with "woke." Do you even know what that means?
Are you suggesting that they shouldn't have allowed black members?
What?
EVIL
God Bless Israel✝❤🇮🇱
Apostate
And if this ruins my fake marriage.....YAS!
This is a very important topic. I don’t believe you can get through your life without some kind of faith. If you believe in nothing… I say at least believe in something.
We're living in the last days John book of Revelations as in the days of Noah social the end be
Tax churches n use $ to help homelessness n schools!
99% of homeless help comes from churches. Anyone who thinks we should tax churches are ignorant and have no idea what that actually means for the world we live in. 99% of churches can't even pay the bills they have. Let alone giving money to a government that increasing works against the mission of the churches.
You honestly think the people that are in charge of 35 trillion dollars of debt should be in charge of distributing money to help homeslessness and schools?