The pick and roll wasn't flashy, but it worked. Also, the main reason it worked for the Jazz was because John Stockton could score. If he drew the defenders, then he'd pass it to Malone. If they left him open and ganged up on Malone, he'd shoot it. Simple but ultra effective.
That pick and roll was literally reinvented by John and the Mailman. They would do the pick and roll every time I saw them play and execute with perfection.
It's very unlikely that anyone will catch up to him anytime soon. LeBron is projected to play like 6 to 8 more years if he does not get injured. He'll end up in the top 5 sitting somewhere near Magic and Mark Jackson but nothing more than that because he has other tasks higher up on his priority list than that. Right now as of March 2017, LBJ is #13 on the list with 7,346 total assists. The only person that has a chance of taking a crack at the record is Chris Paul who now has a total of 8,114 assists sitting at #10 on the list. But he's had injuries and will most likely be injured a couple more times throughout his career. The next active player in the NBA that is near LeBron on the list is 32 year old Deron Williams sitting at #19 with 6,763 assists. Not much will be happening since he is only going to be a bench player/back up PG on the same team as LeBron who will be playing very limited minutes.
@@SuperRobertoClemente LEBRONZE IS NOT DURABLE. DONT COMPARE THAT SOFT DIVA WHO REST GAMES AND PLAY IN LAST DECADE MOST SOFTEST DECADE WITH GOD MAILMAN.
imagine: you know a pick and roll....likely coming. Stockton has the ball. if you cover him, good luck....he will either get past you, fake and shoot past you or he will pass. so, I used to think as a kid, ' double cover Malone'.....but that ensures Stockton will either shoot it (50%+ from the field) and probably make it, or he will go for the layup....and if the line for the layup closes, Stockton will pass it (seemingly like a Jedi or an X-man or something) without looking to the player you either forgot to cover or thought you had covered (usually Malone). Being from Spokane and having been to many, many Gonzaga Men's games....this is exactly the kind of ballgame Zags seem to thrive on. I guess I haven't been in awhile, so I'm sure the game evolved since then...so they might not still be in that same manner of play (Mark Few is still the coach, so maybe?)...but I used to love the technical way Zags, and Stockton and Malone, play. its amazing!
To ask how to stop "pick and roll" is just about to tell a guy to stop a person who got the answer to a question, you neither got or know the answer What Stockton-Malone did, is impossible to understand. Unless you're inside their head. If a player left Stockton to hide the pass to Malone, Stockton could shoot. If the player stayed on Stockton, Stockton would find Malone some way, and he would score'
Can't really argue with that, they were the best at p&r no doubt. The only thing I would add is Malone was so big & strong. I think he's what make it so untoppable.
TELEthruVOXx while that's true, it's also true no one but Stockton could pull so many passes to Malone. Everyone knew they were going to do the Pick and Roll, but no one knew in what of the 600 ways Stockton found Malone they'd do it.
Malone's defenders should have just sticked to Malone instead of anticipating a Stockton offensive move. Just let Stockton do a "Westbrook" and try to do things with the basketball other than PASS it to Malone. Granted he might have made a few J's and/or drove to the hoops a few times and did a "White Man Lay up". But if I were the opposing coach, I'd live with that. I'd live with Stockton trying to pull an Allen Iverson on me rather than him running an effective 90's offense.
Axle Gallardo The unique thing about their p&r was, Stockton basically was looking at every one, so if Karl's stuck on him, he got 4 other options. That was why the opponent most of the time switched when they ran it.
It's funny how Karl Malone said he didn't try to catch the ball pass every time but bat it down. When I was a kid playing in the front court my hands weren't the greatest so I used to slam the ball down, especially on the wild passes I used to get.
Jesus Christ Stockton and Malone in todays game that is wide open and no touching or no fighting is allowed. Forget it, they would run this league with the most ridiculous numbers anyone would ever see. At least 40ppg for Malone and 20 assts per game for John. I mean you can't touch them, and nobody plays the level of defense required to at least make it hard for them. It would be ridiculous, these two would put this modern nba to shame. And If John Stockton has as much freedom to bomb open threes or threes off screens as today, he would average at least 25ppg. The culture of todays nba is just bomb more 3s and get easy dunks and layups, because defense is virtually non existant, it is just a guy out there taking space but not doing anything useful with it.
The best pick and roll team of all time. They do not depend on alley-oops. It is not spoon feed. Most of pick and rolls today are done near the rim. John and Karl, because of their superior skillsets, they did it wherever they wanted to do it.
I'd have to disagree with that, I'd say the best duo was probably the mid-to-late-80s Celtics. Go back to some of those P&Rs and between Larry and Kevin Mchale, also with Robert Parrish and Danny Ainge who ran it pretty cut-and-dry and old-school.
If you didn't hedge Stockton, he'd drop buckets on you all night. Hedge him high, he's gonna find Karl. Rotate over to Karl on the backside, Stockton will find someone else.
Stockton & and Malone have changed basketball, they are the reason why pick and roll is guarded different nowadays. They deserved a championship ring but of course on the other side was Jordan...and on the same side were Ostertag, Foster, Eisley, Russell, Carr, Anderson....crappy players..
Malone retired with the 2nd most points in history and no one can take that away from him, but I wonder how many moving picks/illegal screens were never called in his career. The plays in this video are text book, but there are other video compilations on UA-cam that make this a fair question, imo. Here's most of the current rule from the NBA playbook: A player who sets a screen shall not (1) assume a position nearer than a normal step from an opponent, if that opponent is stationary and unaware of the screener’s position, or make illegal contact with an opponent when he assumes a position at the side or front of an opponent, or (3) assume a position so near to a moving opponent that he is not given an opportunity to avoid contact before making illegal contact, or (4) move laterally or toward an opponent being screened, after having assumed a legal position. The screener may move in the same direction and path of the opponent being screened.
i like how sam mitchell is trying to talk his gameplan of how he would have stopped this pick and roll, no one could consistently guard they're pick and roll for the 20 years they played together , no sam mitchell is coming up with the counter defense.
No doubt -their relationship is symbiotic though. Jon wouldnt have had all those assists if not for Karl. Those to were meant to play together...uncanny chemistry.
It's a big plus but u can't recreate a great finisher. U can replace Stockton with plenty of good passers but the person catching the ball has to be able to shoot outside and Finish it strong inside.
+Thomas Le nah you can't just replace Stockton. Stockton was one of the most fundamentally sound player in the game. You also can't replace the best passer in the game with a "good" passer
Vid needs a re-upload. It's fucked and doesnt load prtoperly. Tried for m various devices on various Ip's so I know its a problem with the video and not on my end.
"Stockton to Malone!" That was a thing of beauty. One of the best duos is basketball history
@Rashan Sankofa dude your fucking out there hes one of the best players. Get your head out of your ass and stop being a ignorant troll
The pick and roll wasn't flashy, but it worked. Also, the main reason it worked for the Jazz was because John Stockton could score. If he drew the defenders, then he'd pass it to Malone. If they left him open and ganged up on Malone, he'd shoot it. Simple but ultra effective.
John Stockton and Wilt Chamberlain are the only players to be the all-time leaders in NBA in two diferent stats.
Wilt chamberlain leads in rebounds what else?
Jay Diaz
minutes
+Acaciastreet yup he once averaged over 48 minutes per game as he played every minute of every game + overtime
***** yeah, its crazy how he never went out
Acaciastreet for real dude had straight iron lungs
That pick and roll was literally reinvented by John and the Mailman. They would do the pick and roll every time I saw them play and execute with perfection.
crazy numbers.. i don't think anybody could catch up john stockton on assists and steals...
William Leonhart nope, one of the reasons is his durability, it is rare to see someone play like that in that age.
It's very unlikely that anyone will catch up to him anytime soon.
LeBron is projected to play like 6 to 8 more years if he does not get injured.
He'll end up in the top 5 sitting somewhere near Magic and Mark Jackson but nothing more than that because he has other tasks higher up on his priority list than that.
Right now as of March 2017, LBJ is #13 on the list with 7,346 total assists.
The only person that has a chance of taking a crack at the record is Chris Paul who now has a total of 8,114 assists sitting at #10 on the list. But he's had injuries and will most likely be injured a couple more times throughout his career.
The next active player in the NBA that is near LeBron on the list is 32 year old Deron Williams sitting at #19 with 6,763 assists. Not much will be happening since he is only going to be a bench player/back up PG on the same team as LeBron who will be playing very limited minutes.
@@MistahUnknown god your a sheep
@@thelegendkillersshittyduff1335 I am both God and a sheep.
JERRY SLOAN is the MASTERMIND OF THIS PICK AND ROLL! LOVE YOU COACH
"I just decide..my weight training.." I believe it
This dude was genuinely tough in the 90's.
One of the few players ever as durable as LeBron
@@SuperRobertoClemente LEBRONZE IS NOT DURABLE. DONT COMPARE THAT SOFT DIVA WHO REST GAMES AND PLAY IN LAST DECADE MOST SOFTEST DECADE WITH GOD MAILMAN.
@@PIP...33 LeBron has four more rings than Malone. Put that in your e-cigarette and smoke it Skip Bayless.
A good pick & roll can't be beat. Wish I could get my 3rd & 4th grade team to get it.
imagine: you know a pick and roll....likely coming. Stockton has the ball. if you cover him, good luck....he will either get past you, fake and shoot past you or he will pass. so, I used to think as a kid, ' double cover Malone'.....but that ensures Stockton will either shoot it (50%+ from the field) and probably make it, or he will go for the layup....and if the line for the layup closes, Stockton will pass it (seemingly like a Jedi or an X-man or something) without looking to the player you either forgot to cover or thought you had covered (usually Malone).
Being from Spokane and having been to many, many Gonzaga Men's games....this is exactly the kind of ballgame Zags seem to thrive on. I guess I haven't been in awhile, so I'm sure the game evolved since then...so they might not still be in that same manner of play (Mark Few is still the coach, so maybe?)...but I used to love the technical way Zags, and Stockton and Malone, play. its amazing!
Karl Malone is such a badass
"Ostertag, stay over there out of the way."
To ask how to stop "pick and roll" is just about to tell a guy to stop a person who got the answer to a question, you neither got or know the answer
What Stockton-Malone did, is impossible to understand. Unless you're inside their head. If a player left Stockton to hide the pass to Malone, Stockton could shoot. If the player stayed on Stockton, Stockton would find Malone some way, and he would score'
Can't really argue with that, they were the best at p&r no doubt. The only thing I would add is Malone was so big & strong. I think he's what make it so untoppable.
TELEthruVOXx while that's true, it's also true no one but Stockton could pull so many passes to Malone.
Everyone knew they were going to do the Pick and Roll, but no one knew in what of the 600 ways Stockton found Malone they'd do it.
Malone's defenders should have just sticked to Malone instead of anticipating a Stockton offensive move.
Just let Stockton do a "Westbrook" and try to do things with the basketball other than PASS it to Malone.
Granted he might have made a few J's and/or drove to the hoops a few times and did a "White Man Lay up".
But if I were the opposing coach, I'd live with that.
I'd live with Stockton trying to pull an Allen Iverson on me rather than him running an effective 90's offense.
Axle Gallardo The unique thing about their p&r was, Stockton basically was looking at every one, so if Karl's stuck on him, he got 4 other options. That was why the opponent most of the time switched when they ran it.
Dennis Rodman shuts down Malone in the finals
The best duo ever!
Karl,one of the greatest
P&R closer tot he basket and be patient, weight for it youngn's
One of the greatest duo's ever
Can he also show us the art of vicious elbow delivery?
Lol..
Mikko Alberto Elbow, Kick to Groin, Shoulder, and Maybe throw a headbutt in there
Rhiga
lmao man these comment just keep geting better lol
you forgot about that fucking tiger knee he use to do while going up. If you can get away with it though thats all that counts
Or a blantant kick to the face. (Ask Tim Duncan)
they only needed one more all star in their jazz team to win at least one championship. like a proficient wing scorer who can defend
Angelofdeath mustaine if only AK47 had come a bit earlier
@@tagasalog ak47 would have shut Jordan down, just like he did to kobe
karl doesnt really sound the way he looks....
+Biff boof You're right. It's probably dubbed :P
Hungry African Child He's from Louisiana.
He owns a trucking company. He drives semi's.
Pick and roll..Nothing flashy, but deadly when executed by Malone and Stockton. StocktontoMalone was one word in Utah.
It's funny how Karl Malone said he didn't try to catch the ball pass every time but bat it down. When I was a kid playing in the front court my hands weren't the greatest so I used to slam the ball down, especially on the wild passes I used to get.
Karl Malone with a making America great again accent.
Selman Adzovic always had that vibe going on
Shaq and Barkley are among the 10 dislikes of this video
Jesus Christ Stockton and Malone in todays game that is wide open and no touching or no fighting is allowed. Forget it, they would run this league with the most ridiculous numbers anyone would ever see. At least 40ppg for Malone and 20 assts per game for John. I mean you can't touch them, and nobody plays the level of defense required to at least make it hard for them. It would be ridiculous, these two would put this modern nba to shame. And If John Stockton has as much freedom to bomb open threes or threes off screens as today, he would average at least 25ppg. The culture of todays nba is just bomb more 3s and get easy dunks and layups, because defense is virtually non existant, it is just a guy out there taking space but not doing anything useful with it.
Well Karl will have a problem... in his career he had 300+ tech
The Mailman!
What he really proved is how young people are over eager🤣
Love the game love the accent ;).
Karl respekt Poland. . You main number 1 .. Best Player
The best pick and roll team of all time. They do not depend on alley-oops. It is not spoon feed. Most of pick and rolls today are done near the rim. John and Karl, because of their superior skillsets, they did it wherever they wanted to do it.
I'd have to disagree with that, I'd say the best duo was probably the mid-to-late-80s Celtics. Go back to some of those P&Rs and between Larry and Kevin Mchale, also with Robert Parrish and Danny Ainge who ran it pretty cut-and-dry and old-school.
Shaq, worse big man ever to defend pic and roll. Haha.
マローン＆ストックトンは最高コンビでした！かっこ良すぎ！
My opinion no one master the art of pick-and-roll like Stockton and Malone
All kids today know about basketball is square is to shoot.
If you didn't hedge Stockton, he'd drop buckets on you all night. Hedge him high, he's gonna find Karl. Rotate over to Karl on the backside, Stockton will find someone else.
Stockton & and Malone have changed basketball, they are the reason why pick and roll is guarded different nowadays. They deserved a championship ring but of course on the other side was Jordan...and on the same side were Ostertag, Foster, Eisley, Russell, Carr, Anderson....crappy players..
I haven't seen a video in a while that has no DISLIKE.. thumbs up
You gave this a dislike tong wong?
thanks for provoking the one disliker
The one nope that was not me...
criff85 yeah I think I did provoked one dumbass... meh
The greatest PF, with all respect to Duncan.
Playmaking is making your own play as opposed to taking what the defence gives you which is the default.
Malone retired with the 2nd most points in history and no one can take that away from him, but I wonder how many moving picks/illegal screens were never called in his career. The plays in this video are text book, but there are other video compilations on UA-cam that make this a fair question, imo. Here's most of the current rule from the NBA playbook:
A player who sets a screen shall not (1) assume a position nearer than a normal step from an opponent, if that opponent is stationary and unaware of the screener’s position, or make illegal contact with an opponent when he assumes a position at the side or front of an opponent, or (3) assume a position so near to a moving opponent that he is not given an opportunity to avoid contact before making illegal contact, or (4) move laterally or toward an opponent being screened, after having assumed a legal position. The screener may move in the same direction and path of the opponent being screened.
Malone was a beast!
just for shits and giggles, name any two who ran it better. Hell, name a 2 on 2 better.
i like how sam mitchell is trying to talk his gameplan of how he would have stopped this pick and roll, no one could consistently guard they're pick and roll for the 20 years they played together , no sam mitchell is coming up with the counter defense.
Funny how they say teams don't run it anymore. Last few yrs a lot of teams do now!
They don't run the deep side pick and roll like they did
where is the rotation tho? was it illegal defense?
Why didnt that bloke let him talk?
Whats the first song ?
I Keep a shooter with me like Malone
only a myplayer in 2k can beat their record lol
"you cant stop it "
i know you couldn t double the pick androll effectively without a zone ;)
Song title 0:7 to 0:38
Wrong. Pick and roll is a lost art.
True. You accidentally fart on someone and you got yourself a foul. The game became soft.
Utah Jazz starts on pick and roll and here come Phil Jackson call it the TRIANGLE.
Phil Jackson stole Coach Sloan offence and Shaq & Kobe won 3 🏆.
Malone may have the most points but its only a reflection of john stockton's assist record......
No doubt -their relationship is symbiotic though. Jon wouldnt have had all those assists if not for Karl. Those to were meant to play together...uncanny chemistry.
It's a big plus but u can't recreate a great finisher. U can replace Stockton with plenty of good passers but the person catching the ball has to be able to shoot outside and Finish it strong inside.
It goes both ways dude!
+Thomas Le nah you can't just replace Stockton. Stockton was one of the most fundamentally sound player in the game. You also can't replace the best passer in the game with a "good" passer
+Jose Diaz *one of the best passers in the game
Now we have seen the pick and roll...now we wanna see the elbow.
How they didn't won a championship 😧😧
cuz of the red alien
Because Michael pushed off (I am joking)
Malone would of been nothing without Stockton that’s why when he left the jazz he slumped out
i wanna see he says that right infront of charles and shaq
He says everything that is on his mind that is why he is hilarious. Im sure he would say it in front of Chuck and Shaq
+tp4ever725 Hed kick both their asses easy. Karl prob strongest Nba player next too Wilt. Nobody messes with Karl.
Look at Malone. And people want to say Lebron is 250+lbs. He's not even as big as Malone
How about the art of pick-a-nose?
That pick n roll didnt won championship...
It wasn't because of that, it was because the Jazz never had anything much other than those 2.
Took a GOAT to stop it twice.
All that strategy and they still never got one ring 😂
Lol why so jealous dude they are multimillionares and happy, cant say the same thing about you
I thought he was teaching "impregnate and leave"
Vid needs a re-upload. It's fucked and doesnt load prtoperly. Tried for m various devices on various Ip's so I know its a problem with the video and not on my end.
I dont have a problem lol its your problem
Shut up
Didn't work well enough against chicago 🤣
"Pick" up a 13 year old girl, knock her up "and" then "Roll" off and deny her child support?
It's unstoppable, 0 rings lol
stfu
but 36374 career points
0 rings in the Jordan era is no shame. Ask Charles Barkley
if it wasn't for the Bulls the Jazz would have 2 rings, no shame in losing to the GOAT Team
Dick Bavetta stopped him in that 98 game 6.