The NCAA needs to start rewarding difficult skills & encourage gymnasts to that risks. Because some routines are so boring and cookie cutter. These gymnasts in the video are not!!
@@daro2404 I don’t mean for gymnasts to do anything crazy like an Amanar, full-in dismount on beam or double double on floor. But like encourage gymnasts to do a DLO or Full-in on floor instead of a simple double tuck. Or maybe a 1.5 on vault instead of doing a FTY on vault all year (I know they do encourage athletes to do it bc of the start value but you don’t see it as often).
@@treyartemov8974 Where have you been? They do exactly that. We’ve seen so many more 1.5s and 10.0 vaults in general since the FTY was downgraded, including teams like OU and Nebraska going as far as to have a whole lineup of 10.0 starts. The floor rules are a little less rewarding to harder tumbling but some things are changing, like the rule last year that gives a double salto dismount more bonus
If you want to encourage more difficult routines, then you need to get rid of the perfect 10 system. Until then, it makes no sense to do many elite level skills
the reason they don’t do that is because most of these athletes have put their body through enough. they have already worked their way up to level 10 or elite, and their body has already taken too much toll. this is more relaxed so their bodies will be pushed but not pushed too hard.
I love when they nail it to near perfection and you can just see the pride in how they pose at the end. They throw back their shoulders extra far and glow 😄
@@kimberlygilliam6112 that sound shouts BONE impact, that sounded nothing like a thigh, either way I hope it didn’t cause her any trouble afterwards! she’s tough af lol
@@GymCentric she was committed to UCLA until she went pro, understandle choice as she's 100% the best female gymnast in the world right now (though it would've been so cool to see her compete in college). if a gymnast goes pro that means they aren't eligible to compete in NCAA. :(
I’m from the U.K. and have no clue about college gymnastics. Is it ever the case that what is performed in college gymnastics outweighs the difficulty of moves executed at worlds/olympics etc? Some of the moves here look amazing!
Most if not all of these skills originated in elite gymnastics (the level that gymnasts who go to the Olympics compete on). You rarely see skills like these in NCAA because it’s not worth the risk. NCAA is on a perfect 10 system and there’s a max score (a 10) you can get but elite is not on a perfect 10 system. There is an execution score (out of ten and you get deducted for mistakes) and a difficulty score (there is no limit and each skill has a value and they all get added up) which get added together for your final score. If you get a 9.8 on execution and have a 5.00 difficulty (which is pretty good) you would have a 14.8 overall. Since there is no max score for elite there is more incentive to do more difficult skills for a higher score. Even if NCAA athletes are using these skills in their routines, overall the difficulty is much lower because they have fewer required skills and the routines are much shorter. All lot of the time they have one “hard” skill and the rest are normal NCAA skills.
Mykayla Skinner, for example, did the hardest ncaa floor routine and kept doing the tucked double double because she likes to do difficult skill and to not get bored as well as keeping herself up for the tokyo olympic comeback, Even with that more difficult than usual ncaa routine, her execution was good enough for a few perfect 10 as well as good enough for ncaa floor champion. Seeing that Sunisa Lee hasn't ruled out a Paris 2024 comeback, I wouldn't be surprised if she will keep some of her higher level skills in her ncaa routine as long as she can keep a good execution.
Can you make a second channel where you put all the ncaa routines and this one where you make edits like this one please? It kinda spams the subscription page no hate!
At 3:04, you have an attempt at a Dos Santos II but with a little too much bend in the hips. So it might be marked as a Dos Santos I (piked) by a nitpicky judge, LOL
same skills performed by elite gymnasts, definitely more frequently done by elite gymnasts. some of them are very common. There are ways to be on ncaa and olympics team (verry verrrrry rare for USA considering their depth and talent) but brooklyn moors is going to Canadas. At the point they are at, they probably could not compete with elite gymnasts. their routines are much shorter, easier and have different requirements.
In NCAA there is a perfect 10 score system (out of 10, you get deducted for mistakes) and to get a good score you have to have to be perfect. In elite there is an execution score (out of 10) and a difficulty score (unlimited, all the skill values get added up for the score), these are added together for the final score. If you have high enough difficulty then you don’t need to have perfect execution because your difficulty score will make up for it. This is so that there is variation in routine composition and drives skill evolution. There are many skills we wouldn’t have today if not for the elite scoring system. There are also fewer skills in NCAA routines so there are fewer things to worry about. It’s easier to get a perfect 10 with 4 skills instead of 10 because there’s fewer places to mess up.
@@JustKeepSinging24 you don't need to be able to cook to say that food doesn't taste good -- just as a viewer doesn't need to be able to do the move to know how it's supposed to look. That Rulfova wasn't well executed.
i love how so many of pengs skills are in here, miss her so much she was such a joy to see
I miss her vlogs to at comps 🥺💕
That triple full at 1:39 gets a crazy amount of height!
McMurtry's triple full was 🔥 ! so high!
Ikr she just floats in the air
She reminds me Maroney on that triple 🤩
The execution is so good as well, that's what made this video even more satisfying to watch.
The NCAA needs to start rewarding difficult skills & encourage gymnasts to that risks. Because some routines are so boring and cookie cutter. These gymnasts in the video are not!!
This is literally exactly what they Dont want. Elite is for that.
@@daro2404 I don’t mean for gymnasts to do anything crazy like an Amanar, full-in dismount on beam or double double on floor. But like encourage gymnasts to do a DLO or Full-in on floor instead of a simple double tuck. Or maybe a 1.5 on vault instead of doing a FTY on vault all year (I know they do encourage athletes to do it bc of the start value but you don’t see it as often).
@@treyartemov8974 Where have you been? They do exactly that. We’ve seen so many more 1.5s and 10.0 vaults in general since the FTY was downgraded, including teams like OU and Nebraska going as far as to have a whole lineup of 10.0 starts. The floor rules are a little less rewarding to harder tumbling but some things are changing, like the rule last year that gives a double salto dismount more bonus
If you want to encourage more difficult routines, then you need to get rid of the perfect 10 system. Until then, it makes no sense to do many elite level skills
the reason they don’t do that is because most of these athletes have put their body through enough. they have already worked their way up to level 10 or elite, and their body has already taken too much toll. this is more relaxed so their bodies will be pushed but not pushed too hard.
0:20 You rarely see skills like these even in elite level
I was waiting for Peng's Bhardwaj. it is such a beautiful skill, I wish gymnasts would do it more often.
I’ve noticed that most of the gymnasts tend to go very off center during the twist and that can look very wobbly.
Seolin Jung I noticed that too. It’s almost like a side twist and not really a true 360 flip and twist
Really cool seeing Brenna Dowell performing her own skill at NCAA!
this made me realize how much i miss peng
Appreciation comment for Shallon Olsen. Love seeing elite skills on every event she competes.
That forward double pike is even rare in elite gymnastics.
I love when they nail it to near perfection and you can just see the pride in how they pose at the end. They throw back their shoulders extra far and glow 😄
0:16 the commentator felt it too.
Basically just put a full Peng Peng routine in and we'll be happy. She does it with such an ease. UCLA!! THANKS
wow love this video!! still can't believe these skills are being competed in NCAA
mcmurtry could hit a 3.5 easily with that height!! 😍
Incredible what humans are capable of creating! Amazing!
Betsy Hamm...unbelievable!!!
Ridiculous that those flairs weren’t really worth anything.
what flairs?
Here they are doing these amazing tricks and I can't even walk properly without me tripping over my own feet
2:27 me realizing Brenna Dowel is real and I thought she was just from that movie😅
not a gymnast so i don't know the right skills but if you make another one of this vid, you'd put Danucia Francis's beam dismount
And we might see trinity doing a chuso
Grace Taylor-UGA had a beautiful Comaneci on bars as well
0:17 she literally ate the beam with her ya know 😖 hope she’s all good n okay
I could be wrong but I think she meant to do that and had it under control!
@@hannienanniep She looked a little off center like she hit her right inner thigh on the beam.
@@hannienanniep maybe! but i don’t know, that sound says otherwise 😖
@@kimberlygilliam6112 that sound shouts BONE impact, that sounded nothing like a thigh, either way I hope it didn’t cause her any trouble afterwards! she’s tough af lol
@@kimberlygilliam6112 very good point.
Alex McMurtry was on another level
Daphne: Jeepers! Velma: Jinkies!
Love seeing all the Bruins in this video! 💙💛💙💛💙💛💙
I wish Simone went to NCAA. Could do amanar,Pike tachev pak. Full in dismount on beam. Silivas mount on floor,Double layout,Full in on floor
wait shes going !?
Simone’s too good for NCAA 😭
@@bagelized No..It's just a thought
@@GymCentric she was committed to UCLA until she went pro, understandle choice as she's 100% the best female gymnast in the world right now (though it would've been so cool to see her compete in college). if a gymnast goes pro that means they aren't eligible to compete in NCAA. :(
simone cant go to ncaa sadly as she went pro but i would have loved to see her at ucla as that is where she was planning to go
Crazy skills. These girls are stronger than most men
can you put the names of all the gymnasts next time? i’d love to know who everyone is!!
Could someone explain to me how the scoring works?
I was gonna say where’s Kennedy Baker’s piked Arabian because that thing is wild!
Kareema Marrow (UCLA) whip thru to double layout
I’m from the U.K. and have no clue about college gymnastics. Is it ever the case that what is performed in college gymnastics outweighs the difficulty of moves executed at worlds/olympics etc? Some of the moves here look amazing!
Most if not all of these skills originated in elite gymnastics (the level that gymnasts who go to the Olympics compete on). You rarely see skills like these in NCAA because it’s not worth the risk. NCAA is on a perfect 10 system and there’s a max score (a 10) you can get but elite is not on a perfect 10 system. There is an execution score (out of ten and you get deducted for mistakes) and a difficulty score (there is no limit and each skill has a value and they all get added up) which get added together for your final score. If you get a 9.8 on execution and have a 5.00 difficulty (which is pretty good) you would have a 14.8 overall. Since there is no max score for elite there is more incentive to do more difficult skills for a higher score.
Even if NCAA athletes are using these skills in their routines, overall the difficulty is much lower because they have fewer required skills and the routines are much shorter. All lot of the time they have one “hard” skill and the rest are normal NCAA skills.
@@luche4606 thank you very much for your answer- much appreciated.
Mykayla Skinner, for example, did the hardest ncaa floor routine and kept doing the tucked double double because she likes to do difficult skill and to not get bored as well as keeping herself up for the tokyo olympic comeback, Even with that more difficult than usual ncaa routine, her execution was good enough for a few perfect 10 as well as good enough for ncaa floor champion.
Seeing that Sunisa Lee hasn't ruled out a Paris 2024 comeback, I wouldn't be surprised if she will keep some of her higher level skills in her ncaa routine as long as she can keep a good execution.
Can you make a second channel where you put all the ncaa routines and this one where you make edits like this one please? It kinda spams the subscription page no hate!
I'm just here seeing what Chanel Oberlin has to say... LOL
Holy shit Betsy Hamm!
I love katelyn so much
They should have to do harder skills anyways. Sometimes it's so lame when everyone does the exact same thing so this is always cool to see.
Don't forget about pengs double turn on beam
Wondering if anyone will throw an Amanar...
Молодцы, не зацикливаются на нас, сами тихонечко занимаются там себе...
Some of these girls are far better than the current crop trying out for the Olympics !!!
oh yay n they included katelyn ohashi’s dope routine,not exactly but close the full video has the fun choreography
Ik it’s so fun to watch
0:17 what happened there?
it was intentional
It’s intentional. Also why men don’t do beam. It hurts hitting your private on a beam even for women, so men could get insanely injured doing beam.
2:25 - it was a Dos Santos?
No. It was a Dowell
Dos santos is a double arabian (half twist) piked while a Dowell is a double front piked.
At 3:04, you have an attempt at a Dos Santos II but with a little too much bend in the hips. So it might be marked as a Dos Santos I (piked) by a nitpicky judge, LOL
@@e2theeyepie oh ok, i was thinking it was a Dos Santos l, but it was suposed to be a Dos Santos ll... Her position in the air was a little wrong
@@joao35967 i forgot the Dos Santos has the half twist
You can tell the rent was due with how hard they’re doing these
tons of ncaa gymnasts can be olympic if they are not American.
that is true.
It’s not worth doing most of those hard skills unless you are still competing at the elite level as well
1:37
These skills seem harder than what they do in the olympics, can these ladies try out for the Olympic team?
same skills performed by elite gymnasts, definitely more frequently done by elite gymnasts. some of them are very common. There are ways to be on ncaa and olympics team (verry verrrrry rare for USA considering their depth and talent) but brooklyn moors is going to Canadas. At the point they are at, they probably could not compete with elite gymnasts. their routines are much shorter, easier and have different requirements.
How is it that they stick almost every hard skills at college and not so many in elite?
In NCAA there is a perfect 10 score system (out of 10, you get deducted for mistakes) and to get a good score you have to have to be perfect. In elite there is an execution score (out of 10) and a difficulty score (unlimited, all the skill values get added up for the score), these are added together for the final score. If you have high enough difficulty then you don’t need to have perfect execution because your difficulty score will make up for it. This is so that there is variation in routine composition and drives skill evolution. There are many skills we wouldn’t have today if not for the elite scoring system.
There are also fewer skills in NCAA routines so there are fewer things to worry about. It’s easier to get a perfect 10 with 4 skills instead of 10 because there’s fewer places to mess up.
So much UCLA waw
who is 1:37 ?
Alex McMurty
First like
That was a poorly executed Rulfova.
Can you do it better??
@@JustKeepSinging24 Oh! Someone who hasn't given a pinch of criticism is coming for me. I guess I should run with my heels on.
@@makelovenotwar9941I've given alot of criticism per say. Sounds like the truth hurts doesn't it..
@@JustKeepSinging24 Yup. The truth that you are a hypocrite does hurt.
@@JustKeepSinging24 you don't need to be able to cook to say that food doesn't taste good -- just as a viewer doesn't need to be able to do the move to know how it's supposed to look. That Rulfova wasn't well executed.
uhmmm where is Simone Biles?
She isn't a college gymnast. She is an elite gymnast.
wow who was performing the arabian on beam?