Dr. Neal Barnard, Low Fat Vegan is NOT the Only Way
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- Опубліковано 18 лис 2018
- President of Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine Dr. Neal Barnard promotes a low fat vegan diet for health. I have a lot of problems with this.
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I’m no longer diabetic from following a modified Dr Barnard diet. I eat a lot of avo’s and seeds and nuts! Lol my endocrinologist said keep on keeping on. I have to have those tastes of fat to remain on course. 80 lbs and counting.
@@imaginarynumber8520 "especially if you're a diabetic and/or obese" but she doesn't say that. She thinks mock meats are good for the sake of making a vegan diet easier, especially with transitioning, but she doesn't ever say they are healthy. People enjoy junk food sometimes just because it tastes nice. It might not be the most healthy thing, but it is what it is, and she's not claiming anything else.
So... you don't follow the low fat diet? But still claim it's helpful? That makes no sense.
@@imaginarynumber8520 preaching isn't very scientific.
If you eat lots of healthy fats that's not really Barnard's diet. He always says no more than an oz of nuts/day (or half an avocado) or you WILL gain weight. There's no reason to believe that eating more healthy, whole fats is bad in any way and most people can't stick to such a low amount of fat. Which is why she made this video to begin with.
@@imaginarynumber8520 the point of veganism is that we're not the most important animals.... also she doesnt claim that. She says in this exact video that her personal belief is that a diet rich in wholefoods is likely the healthiest and she wouldn't be suprised if consensus ended up there...
You have to remember that these doctors, except Greger, are treating patients daily who are very ill, maybe weeks away from death. Therefore their diets may seem extreme for reasonably healthy people.
Wotan's Rabbit true, but Barnard for instance also makes recommendations for the general public, as UV showed on the video, and his advice is to eat low fat, just as he recommends for sick people.
Good point
Reasonable healthy on the outside... how much is going on on the inside before they show signs of sickness or diminished life expectancy? Dr. Greger can save more people by not treating people directly :-)
Yeah... life looks different when you are a young, relatively healthy 30 something (almost everybody is relatively healthy at 30, BTW), and can skew ones perspective on what is, and is not, "extreme".
Not only do I remember that @Wotan’s Rabbit but was taught in nursing school. Also, my Mama was a nutritionist. I just happen to be vegan. Still healthy
here.
Have you attempted to get interviews with some of these doctors so you can confront them directly with your concerns?
When I first watched her videos I thought she was serious but after actually learning tons about the research into a vegan diet the way dr. Neal prescribes, its pretty clear she is just trolling so I doubt that would be something she would be even vaguely interested in
@@OnenessAwareness the dude Barnard says olive oil and eggs are unhealthy. The guy has lost his mind. You don't even need to get a bachelor degree in nutrition to affirm that this case is closed.
Dr Barnard and his books were the reason i lost 190 + pounds, reversed diabetes, normalized my extremely high blood pressure...basically saved my life. You only seem to respect and acknowledge two dietitians , one of whom I heard speak at a NE vegfest and I wasn't impressed. I respect Dr. Barnard and trust his information and as he helped me change my life for the better, I'll continue doing so.
That his method worked for you as an heavily obese and sick person, does not mean that everyone, including healthy people, need to follow that diet. The critique that she has in her video towards him is that he acts like everyone should eat like that and there is plenty of evidence of the opposite. He discredits himself by saying what he does.
Sheryl Thibeault Very well put. I also reversed my type 2 diabetes as well. Dr. Barnard is a genius 👍👍👍
She doesn't say that his diet DOESN'T work, just that lots of diets work for lots of different people. There's no one way to improve diabetic conditions. Which is absolutely correct, and absolutely something Dr. Barnard doesn't advocate or even seem to acknowledge.
@@MimouFirst but I'm now an extremely healthy and thin person thanks to Dr Barnard. I agree not everything works for everyone but that also means that the two RD's she heavily promotes are not.
Well said
Swayze never says anything and just talks for talking sake and arguing with genuine science. Just trying to appeal with carnists to appear reasonable.
Unnatural Vegan is probably the most reasonable vegan on UA-cam and people turn on her for not following their IDEOLOGY
I could not have said this better!
Yeah she looks very reasonable but the problem is that she is also very wrong.
@@imaginarynumber8520 Why is she wrong? I'm curious.
She seems to be set against whole plant food based vegan advocates as if they were a cult, like the nutty raw vegan thing she followed herself, when actually there’s good science to support it. Criticism of eg That Vegan Couple on baby feeding seems to wilfully misrepresent their views in order to criticise low fat vegan diets. Other vegans of similar views might say much the same.
@@andrewp5180 What was wrong with her criticism of That Vegan Couple? I thought they were being horrible in the video she responded to, like they cared more about their ideology than the fact that a baby died.
One major reason to avoid higher fat diet is overall health and longevity. It is true that people can maintain healthy weight on high fat diet, but the biggest reason why Barnard advocates ultra-low fat diet is to mitigate risk of CAD or potentially even reverse it. Lipid profiles dramatically improve when people who are struggling with metabolic disorders get their total fat under 10-15%.
Let’s see.. Dr B recommends whole plant foods. I don’t see much wrong with that. I respect him a great deal and I’m disappointed that you don’t include all the studies he has done and the work that he has Contributed to, especially the study and cure of heart disease and diabetes.
Did you even watch the video? And ‘I don’t see much wrong with that’ is not really a convincing argument, I hope you realize that.
Ummmm if somebody had any kind of significant study on curing heart disease and diabetes, it would be a breakthrough. Considering there has been no wide adoption of his treatment or further testing and replication, I’m gonna go out on a limb and say he hasn’t actually cured anything
in the context of a high carb diet. its actually better to make sure that fat intake is very low. less than 10% of total intake.
conversely. in the context of a high fat diet. its better to make sure that carb intake is very low. less than 10%.
constantly engaging the randle cycle with a mixed diet of high-carb+high-fat is unhealthy.
dr. b is very biased tbh. hes also been defending the sugar industry, and the harmful effects of refined sugar, much to the disappointment of his colleagues. its well documented, and well studied that refined sugar isnt as benign as what dr. b always claim. if some biased doctor tells you what to eat, then youve got to be sceptical. among vegans, those who remove sugar from their diet see improved health benefits. dr. b will turn a blind eye to that. to him sugar isnt harmful at all.
@@scamdem1c ???? Dr. Neal Barnard is against refined sugar...
You need to make an 'I was wrong (2017-2018 edition)
' video
Best comment on this subject I’ve heard: “don’t let the “perfect” be the enemy of the good.” You can be healthy without being extreme.
Sorry, but veganism IS an extreme diet. Vegetarianism has been around at least a few hundred years, but NOT veganism. The term wasn't even invented until 1944. Only in people in rich societies with lots of food can even afford to attempt veganism. Poorer people have to eat whatever food is available or starve. Most people quit being vegan in a couple of months, and the ones who keep it up most often get seriously ill. The "you're not doing it right" excuse is BS.
@@robinlillian9471 k😁👍🏽
@@robinlillian9471 because most people atrempting veganism are doing it for the wrong reasons. They're doing it because it's a fad diet instead of for ethical and environmental reasons This leads them to not follow health guidelines which are a bit harder to follow on a vegan diet, but not difficult. Health organisations do recognise veganism can be done healthfully and do offer health benefits over omnivorous diets.
Veganism may not be possible for everyone (for now), but most people in the west at least can healthfully go vegan.
Being vegan is EASY if you embrace it well. Eat all the colours of the rainbow, healthy starches, legumes, nuts and seeds plenty of leafy green veg and a variety of fruit. Sorry enough UNBIASED SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE AND RESEARCH has been done, is still being done to prove this.
For some people they have malabsorption of a variety of macronutrients and micronutrients due to symbiosis and leaky gut which can be caused by a list of things that then lead to other issues such as thyroid problems, muscle aches blah blah blah blah. But hey this can happen on any diet if you dont eat properly. Plenty of vegans eat too much processed crap!!!!! Not having proper sleep hygiene will lead to malabsorption so do some pharmaceutical drugs. So does lack of exercise too I'm afraid. So people need to SERIOUSLY look at their lifestyles and think about why they are the way they are. Blaming veganism for being a crappy diet is just false because it forms the psychological narrative to continue with the status quo to "justify" and "pacify " existing habits, rituals and the self centred aspects of our personalities.
People like to hear good news about their bad habits!!
@@roelin360 well said .
One thing I can think of with the whole "doctor" thing is with my mum, she has a PhD in botany (and studies fruit) but I wouldn't go to her for vegan nutritional advice. She knows so much about plants but she wasn't taught about nutrition, if you want to know the cell wall structure of apple skin where it meets the flesh or how they breed out the Woody core of a kiwifruit she can give you every detail.
Katarina Elisabeth interesting! Does your mum has a UA-cam channel ?
Fruit is one of my biggest passions and plants overall too . Im studying horticulture atm and on my third year I’ll be focused on solely floristry because I want to be a florist . But fruit is everything to me . Is there a way to contact your mum or does she make any videos ?
Sounds like a pretty interesting field.
Dr Neal Bernard is a practicing MD though. Now that doesn't make him an expert on nutrition or even all areas of health/medicine, of course.
@Aoife Fitzpatrick I never said he didn't. I just clarified it to the original poster that Bernard is not a PhD 'doctor' but an MD. Though I stand by that even if MDs attend conferences etc, it doesn't make them experts in ALL areas of medicine and especially not nutrition. Bernard is a functional dr though so his focus is very much on nutrition along with other aspects of holistic medicine...and I am sure he does his research and the team that writes his content does too... I actually like Bernard, so my comment wasn't dismissing him or anyone at all. Next time maybe read my post before assuming shit...
I'm a soon-to-be medical doctor and tbh I hardly know anything about nutrition. We don't go to medical school to do nutrition, we study disease and medicine. There's a reason we have dieticians and nutritionists, because it's outside of our area of expertise
Dr Barnard is bang on, on Health! It’s time for you to do some serious research ☠️
yeah because you're not biased
@@oliverram3243 no not at all…I’m open minded & thoroughly researched 🌱 Plant Based Organic Whole Vegan Foods is the secret to great health & a disease free long Life 🙏🏾
Not taking nutrition advice from Dr. Barnard? That’s equivalent to not believing the earth is round or believing that Elvis is still alive.
“Thank you, thank you very much!”
Yeah whats wrong with Dr. Barnard
Crazy how some random woman sat on her couch has more acceptance than a fully trained and experienced doctor who has seen these changes with his patients first-hand. Anybody can read a paper, but it doesn't make you an expert. You can't just be an academic, you need to be a practitioner too.
OMG yes!
It's like she never even heard him talk about his patients
1Timothy 4:4
Lmao. She even predicted this comment at the end in the video. Did you watch the video?'
All of her videos are like this.
Being educated just enough to think that they're someone worth listening to.
Empty minds make the most noise, or go to You Tube and dedicate a whole channel to their mindless meanderings.
Exactly, who the hell is this girl?😁😀😌
Her point isn’t that Dr. Barnard’s recommendations won’t be helpful for diabetes or weight loss, but that a diverse array of diets might also work.
"Might"? Well there you go. Why try something that might when you already know what will work (for the majority).
@@cheezheadz3928 Barnard's diet *doesn't* work for everyone though. I tried doing low fat for years and it was pretty miserable. Gained weight, had high triglycerides, my nails were breaking/ripping, my skin was dry, had hormonal issues (irregular cycles, acne etc) and I literally didn't know you could lose weight without feeling like you're starving (carbs are just not satiating, even the whole fiber rich ones)
So isn't it better to point new vegans/vegan curious people to sources that give them info on doing vegan however they want (low fat, low carb, balanced macros)
@@cheezheadz3928 a diet that works to reduce a health problem in the abstract or in clinical trials, doesn't work to reduce the health problem for a specific individual if that individual can't stick to it. There is no one diet that is sustainable for everyone so it is ALWAYS a question of "might." We have multiple diets that have shown clinical promise and there's a relatively even spread of people finding each approach tolerable, so there's really no such thing as a diet that ACTUALLY works in real everyday practice for a strong plurality.
the thing is, most people just dont understand the randle cycle.
if barnards diet doesnt work out well for most people(since its bad). then theres plenty of other options, which would also work.
its when peopIe are constantly engaging the randle cycle eating high-carb+high-fat, and consuming sugar and vegetable oils that peopIe end up unhealthy. the low fat peopIe always love to bash on the low carb peopIe. and the low carb peopIe always bash on the low fat peopIe. in reality, its possible to be healthy with either a low fat, or a low carb approach. you dont have to be extreme either. you can do fat cycling on a low fat diet, and carb cycling on a low carb diet. this is how bio hackers have done things. metabolic flexibility have alot of benefits too.
@@christina7454 barnards diet is bad. thats why it doesnt work for everyone. even those who were "healed" by his diet, end up with multiple dangerous deficiencies. the barnard diet is nutritionally deficient, and is toxic with alot of antinutrients and agrochemicals. they dont even talk about real and proper food preparation techniques. little to no attempt is made in reducing the toxic load of plant foods. also there is this reliance on supplements. if on a diet, you need alot of supplements, then it goes to show just how bad the diet is.
i doubt dr. barnard even follows his own diet protocols. hes a fraud
I lost 30 lbs this year just eating vegan whole plant foods. I ate a lot of nut like cashews, flax seeds, peanut butter so on and so fourth and I drink almond milk everyday. Everyones body is so different no one can say one diet is perfect.
IF YOU CLAIM to understand the science then request an interview with Neal Barnard, Dr. Michael Greger ect. I want to see you bring up these points against them and see how you hold your ground or even having them consider your points.
That's not how she works.
Right! She is trash talking experts and giving horrible advice..
Everyone knows she is a meat and dairy industry SHILL. she just doing what she was paid for.
Debate what exactly? All her criticisms are valid, nothing Barnard has shown directly shows his claim that "animal-based diets are the main and sole cause of diabetes" at all.
I’d pay to watch that
I’m diabetic, and I’ve had multiple different doctors in my life who are not plant-based doctors tell me to watch my fat and protein intake because it will spike my blood sugar levels. This is pretty common knowledge in the diabetes community... sorry.
Why are you sorry? If the studies have proven something, that's that
She might be Canadian, some people like to be polite.☮️🌱
@@scottmorgan121 Yah that’s just how we talk lol
They didn't tell you to watch the food group that spikes your insulin the most?🤦♂️😲
Are you sure you saw real doctors?
You’re the reason I’ve been focused on making sure my children and my family get enough macro and micro nutrients. You’ve taught me about how eating healthy food isn’t enough to ensure you’re getting all the things your body needs and that we need a balance of vegetables and fruit in addition to ensuring we get enough protein, fats and omegas.
I'm a final year medical student and can confirm we hardly learn anything about nutrition in med school. it's definitely not our area, that's why we have dieticians. I certainly don't think being a doctor gives you more credibility on nutrition
This isn't just any doctor. Maybe you should look PCRM up.
@@BNJ24 Anyone can set up an organisation for what they believe in, doesn't mean he's right or any more believable. There are flat earth organisations
Obviously you can't do your own homework. Physicians Committee For Responsible Medicine has worked tirelessly for decades to help humans and animals. But you'd rather just watch some random person on UA-cam. I get it.
@@BNJ24 HE'S the founder though... so I'm just pointing out it doesn't give him extra credentials as it's literally an organisation he's set up himself. It's not like he's got a degree in nutrition
Medicine is actually a study of pharmacology not health and nutrition.
Yes, 80 / 10 / 10 is dead, thank god 💀
continue to be fatty
80/10/10 (not high fruit) is the only thing that helps me manage my PCOS. Higher fat causes insulin resistance and throws my body off (and I’m not overweight, btw).
Sophie Athena While I don’t have PCOS, I have had acne since I went through puberty at the age of 10 and I’m now 30. It’s better than it used to be but now it’s hormonal around my chin/jaw/neck area. I bought Nina and Randa’s Clear Skin Diet book and have been doing no oil/low fat to the best of my abilities for about a week and a half now and my skin seems to actually be calming down. It’s looking better and better every day. Low fat is the only thing I had never tried before. Just going vegan did nothing for my skin, so I think low fat high carb vegan has its place for certain conditions.
@@breatheinbreatheout7568 High carbs is what is keeping PCOS existing. Low carb and high fat is the best thing for it.
@@zoilalulu3798 no hun you're scientifically wrong.
Hi Swayze, I have a video request if you happen to be interested: a review on the HAES (Health At Every Size) movement and book. Thanks :)
Yes - Dr Neal Barnard is such a quack - fruits, vegetables, whole grains - whoever heard such ludicrous advice. How dare he tout such nonsense
Work for the meat industry? You are full of 💩
@@adiposerex5150 I was being ironic
Was going to follow her but won’t now. I’m a physician, I’ve met Dr. Barnard and understand what he’s saying which she misrepresented quite a bit. It’s really hard to understand evidence based medical literature and how to juggle all the different info out there and determine which studies are good studies and which are not. We learn that as physicians and then we go on to specialize in what we choose to, in Bernard’s case that’s nutrition. People are on here talking about being an M.D. doesn’t make you an expert in nutrition and how little we learn in med school about nutrition. But dedicating your life and career to nutrition and doing the actual research (not just relying on other people’s research) is about as knowledgeable as you can get. Peer reviewed journals know how to differentiate good research from the bad. I find this video very disturbing. Everyone’s entitled to their opinion but it’s ludicrous for her to call what he says ludicrous and instead people should listen to her who has done NO front line research on nutrition and has not treated even one patient with diabetes/HTN/thyroid disease etc. and its effects on the human body in addition to actually treating patients for 40 years. It’s very arrogant but so typical of so many people in the my-lack-of-experience-is-equal-to-your-decades-of-experience world we now live in
Have you taken a 23 and Me health test? Slash what’s your opinion on them? Would love to know!
I am sticking with Dr. Barnard.....after losing more than 30 lbs.....with my blood sugar now completely under control. This lady should listen more closely to his explanation of the causes of diabetes. I am glad that I did!
Did you actually listen to the video? She's not saying that it doesn't work. She says that almost any diet resolving in weight loss will probably have similar effect. And for many people, eating a very low fat diet isn't sustainable.
@@zuzanadrapalova2146 isn't sustainable? We have something called "grains" on the planet. Of course it is sustainable and you can stick with it easily
@@zuzanadrapalova2146 as if low carb isnt sustainable
He is a fantastic medical expert but his diet is too restrictive in long term. After 1 year of WFPB I was too exhausted, introduced good plant fat and protein and now I feel great.
@@metalrunner4398 But everyone can decide for themselves to what extent they want to eat healthily. I don’t follow their eating plans to the letter. I allow myself some other foods too. But at least we know what is healthy.
I did hclf for a year and a half. I have MS. My symptoms were crazy during this time. I switched to more of a high fat low carb diet. I still eat carbs.. just not 400g per day. I am so much happier eating fat. I lift heavier in the gym, I stay full longer, my skin has cleared up, my MS symptoms have improved ten fold. I really wanted the starch solution to work for me but it didn’t.
Hey, how is your ms symptoms now?
GLAD THAT YOU FEEL BETTER
If I limit my fat intake so much (I tied) my skin gets so dry it breaks and I bleed, my nails break, my hair looks lie straw... no nothing is good.
eat avocado, flex seed, hemp seed, nuts and seeds. Eat peanut butter and lots of green leafy vegetables.
i eat alot of meat. and dont have those issues.
for those who dont want meat. avocadoes, olives, and coconuts would be nice.
the coconuts however, would raise your LDL and HDL cholesterol. some peopIe might not want that. but really, its no big deal. LDL cholesterol, just on its own, has never been proven to cause disease. also LDL has a protective effect against infectious diseases and helps repair cardiovascular injury. that explains why coconuts are protective against cardiovascular disease, and boost immunity at the same time. there are alot of other health benefits to fatty fruits. coconuts are the best. avocadoes are nice too. ive never eaten olives though..
Also ... diets with which actual reversal of cardiovascular disease has been seen are in fact ... very low in fat (10%), and very much DO call for limiting or eliminating high fat foods, and vegetable oils in particular (along with nuts and seeds generally), and of course, eliminating animal foods. "Why I don't take nutrition advice from UV." :) And, LOOK at ya
What is your stance on Dr.Esselstynes diet in relation to cardiovascular health?
Swayze, I know it is an older video but Dr. B is usually saying “keep the oils fairly low” in almost every of his videos. I believe he does so because not everyone is prone to moderation and giving people a green light to not limit their oil intake could lead to lack of results in his patients.
Nuts and seeds have helped me lose weight.
Would you please review the book Proteinaholic by Dr Garth Davis?
I bought Dr Neal's book on diabetes to support him but I have yet to read it yet because I don't have diabetes. But some of my extended family do.
His expertise is in diabetes interventions. A dietary protocol used to treat diabetes patients isn't necessarily applicable to the general population. However, this man has published paper after paper on dietary interventions for treating diabetes, you aren't really qualified to take him down. He's infinitely more educated than you are on this.
Cookedaburra d His credentials/experience don’t make immune to criticism. In fact, it’s always a good idea to look into ANY of the claims being made about diet. Accepting a doctor’s recommendation without question is problematic as I’ve encountered many doctors stating veganism is inherently unhealthy and we REQUIRE animal products, I’m certain there are doctors with experience and studies that would agree with that mindset yet... there are also studies that don’t agree. 🤷🏻♀️
@@Sin355 I am completely aware that his credentials don't inherently determine the validity of the information that he puts out there. However, I am saying that he has over 70 published papers put out there, and that is because his dietary advice works. I don't generally promote 80/10/10, in fact the spoon fulls of peanut butter I just ate kind of exceeded that already tbh, however, his dietary advice works for diabetes patients, particularly type 2 diabetes. The reason I confidently support him is because he has outlined clearly, the mechanisms behind how diabetes works, and how his dietary interventions work to treat the cause of their illness. Unnatural Vegan has built her channel upon scepticism, which is brilliant, we need that, however she has turned it into her own dogma, by which she just tends to put on this heretic mask to try and disagree and "debunk" any figure within the vegan community that is considered to be popular. Last time she gave out HORRIBLE advice to Tim Shieff, in the most condescending and rude ways possible as well. Now, I'm no anti-GMO, anti-soy, anti-vaccine, dogmatic organic food, raw foodist moron, however UV's often times cited industry funded studies, blogs that don't even list their own sources ect.. she's certainly no expert and she herself should be questioned.
@Mamadollskie Swayze is just an attention seeker half the time tbh.
@@asdrt6405 Oh darling, you can point out any logical fallacies I may have made in my comment, but don't let it derail your attention from the content of my comment. I'm not perfect, and I wasn't intending to be a logic master when commenting this, but oh lordy lord please, please forgive me for not living up to your perfectionist standards.
THANK YOU
hey, what do you think about Dr. Millton Mills?
Hes on point!
I have to say I’ve watched a lot of plant based doctors talk about keto diets, none of them argue that keto diets don’t cause weight loss, I’ve even seen some agree that it does indeed cause weight loss but they have concerns about how it achieves this. It’s not just Barnard that is against keto, it’s a variety of doctors, but yes most I’ve heard are plant based doctors. They fat in the muscle issue has also been discussed by other doctors too, I believe they all associate the cause as being a by product of the standard American diet, too much fat of any kind, but they may single out meat on the occasion because in unhealthy American diets it can be the greatest source of fat, but not the only source.
Some people feedback of strength and muscle loss during keto diet. There is a youtube video by a non-plantbased doctor on this topic.
@@hhancp the "studies" they cite, arent real low carb studies. true low carb is 15% or less carb intake. some even say 10% bellow is low carb.
theres also the issue of protein and electrolytes. most of the low carb studies dont give sufficient protein and electrolytes. this OBVIOUSLY causes muscle loss, in addition to feeling awful in general.
most of the studies are short term too. lasting only a few days or weeks.
we dont need to be pro-low carb to see the bias in all this.
to be fair enough, there are some studies that are pretty good, but theyre not actually low carb. they only look at what happens if you reduce carb intake. there was a recent well done study done by dr. ludwig and his buddies. the "low carb" group was not low carb. it was 20% carb. and they found some interesting stuff. ludwig however, is known for being a low carber. he probably did the study to prove his bias.
@@scamdem1c I don't know who decides what is the true definition of low carb. The result from google search says it's less than 26%?
@@hhancp im pretty sure 26% is moderate carb not low carb.
@@scamdem1c depends where you look. My search results says < 26% is low.
I appreciate the perspective and information in this video. I had a similar perspective when watching some of Dr Barnard’s videos.
I've started doing an intermittent fasting diet the last 6 months where I eat a lot of green vegetable, lots of avocado, fake meat - very little carbs - it's a high fat diet, vegan, and I'm in the best shape I've ever been and lost about 20lbs and happy like this.
hey, just watched a bunch of your videos for the first time and I'm wondering- what do you think about Miles from healthy crazy cool? I tend to like to follow his advice a lot
low carb diets may bring about glucose control but are they really more insulin sensitive. eg. what would their response be to a glucose challenge. im old and you make me think
You said that it's not surprising that the hclf diet saw improvements because of weight-loss. One could say the same thing for the meta analysis you showed. If you reduce carb (sugar intake) of course you would see improvements (key word) in glycemic control. The question is how drastic this control is and what potential it has or reversal. What high fat diet has completely reversed diabetes? And if there has been, did it involve plant-based or animal fat?
I really like your videos but please specify thr type of diabetes you are talking about. eg Type 2 diabetes. The literature you reference does do this but futher clarity in language would be appreciated.
I don't think Dr Bernard meant that everyone should be cutting back on nuts and oils if your a normal weight but for us who are trying to lose weight he meant we need to be careful with how much nuts, seeds and etc. Higher fat foods aren't good for those of us trying to lose weight and should be eaten in moderation. period. He didn't say eliminate these foods.
You are correct, he has said this over and over. She is always shifty with her reviews.
You're spot on. This is precisely the point. Dr. McDougall makes the same point, and it works. It's also based on the simple principle of caloric density. Your body doesn't count calories, its signaled by Leptin (a hormone) that recognizes fullness. You'll get plenty of nutrients on a whole foods (oil free) plant based diet than you would the Standard American Diet. There's a reason they call it SAD. Many Americans are nutrient deficient and calorically overloaded.
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your videos are so informative!!! thank you.
Could you possibly respond to the kalel video where she talks about the various health issues she’s experiencing and her eating meat again?
Yes! I am interested, too!
Was going to suggest this also. Her reasoning was kind of unclear.
kelby crawford kalel has some issues.. she changes her mind every other day and constantly contradicts herself. It’s hard to watch her content. I’m glad she’s honest but I think she needs to figure stuff out. Like.... who has time to pop their pimples and look at them under a microscope all day? So weird lol
Vanessa Weinbach I really think that has to do with her OCPD (I’m not an expert though) but the thing I found most interesting was her talking about the candida in her body just like Alyse
She’s waiting for test results yet before she knows what’s going on she assumes it’s the lack of animal products and irresponsibly makes a video about it.
I'm sure he would love to debate you. why don't you set that up instead of all THIS?
Because then her bullsh*t would be even more exposed... There is a line of Vegans that would love to have her step out and debate fairly where she can't control the narrative... It's highly unlikely she would dare do so with any Proper Vegan opponent who knows their stuff... ;-)
What Race Lever said... ⬆️⬆️⬆️
+Cory Carson
Why would Dr. Barnard condescend to waste even a minute of his valuable time talking to this arrogant twit?
My question was rhetorical in nature, much like your own. We're on the same page. (so to speak) She's rather smug about it all with the little fake laughter when she think she's scoring points.
@Cory Carson
How could he even compete with UV? Is there one prominent vegan health expert that she has not attacked? I mean, how could he possibly stand against her? She has the facts! She has the science! She has the critical thinking skills! And, she's got the SWAG!
Hey UV, can you make a video about Nina and randas diet? They eat super restrictive high carb low fat, and I feel like they’re a role model for a lot of young girls.
Are peanut butter and jelly sandwiches Whole Foods? Because I’m not removing them from my diet ;)
You don’t have to change but also don’t expect any change since you are too weak or full of excuses.
Hey came back to watch this video I have resently been diagnosed with pcos polycystic ovary syndrome and many people say that a vegan diet is higher in carbs and sugar so not good for people with pcos I have been vegan for years i would love your take on this condition in regards to improving symptoms and insulin resistance. Metformin medication which I am on also lowers b12 levels. It may be a good topic to cover in a video as 1 in 10 females suffer from the condition. You could also add in info of endomentrosis as well as many people with pcos are being deterred away from a vegan lifestyle. Thanks si much for all your videos they hacecrewlly helped me slowly improve my diet and I am so grateful
Aww kitty @4:42
will you do another "what my vegan kid eats in a day" video soon?
Lol, at first I was looking forward to seeing my name on the patron screen, but actually seeing it there is weird 😂
Sigh ... we've been over this before. A study comparing an "Eco-Atkins" diet to a "Low fat" vegetarian diet ( one that is about 30% of calories from fat) is NOT looking at what Dr. Barnard talks about and advocates for addressing diabetes (which is about 10% of calories from fat). More misrepresentation from UV ... gee, who'da thunk it ...
people are idiots.
Yikes! I'll stick with Dr. B. I eat nuts,seeds on wfpb and am doing great. My simple food just tastes ridiculously delicious.
I tried the Barnard diet. I did not feel very good with it. Over the past year, I have limited ultra processed foods and when I buy a processed food, I only will get it if it has no added sugar. My blood sugar numbers have come down by doing this.
What is your opinion on doctor greger?
soo so thankful i found your channel a while ago, really saved me from falling for what all the hclf/raw food youtubers led me to believe🙏🙏
could you please talk about the claims that sv3rige makes in his videos?
This is much more thorough answer than I thought I would get, thanks!
i don't see reccomendation for SFA limitation going away, but they may increase it from 10 to 15% for the tolerable upper limit, as this seems to be where studies draw a line
80/10/10 (not high fruit) is the only thing that helps me manage my PCOS. Higher fat causes insulin resistance and throws my body off (and I’m not overweight, btw). Just find what works for you. Everyone’s different.
I understand that people can easily overeat on foods rich in fat like nuts, but I do the exact same with carb heavy things. It's not satiating to me, unless I pair them with more protein or fat. What some people don't get is that diet isn't a 'one size fits all' kinda deal.
I have the same. I tried low fat vegan for a couple of days and I kept eating and eating. It was crazy. I quit after a few days, because I could not do it anymore. I overate so much.
I ate low fat vegetarian for years and I actually started thinking skinny people just had more discipline and didn’t always eat when they're hungry..
I eat 75-85% of my calories from carbohydrates and no overt fats, and I never have to eat more than 2 meals a day, sometimes only 1 meal. I have nothing against overt plant fats, but I just feel better without them.
@@dj-fe4ck And that's totally cool
Yeah eating lentils and beans is just soooo not filling. These carb heavy things are just too heavy man.
They say to limit fats to lose weight not to maintain. In fact once at desired weight they say you can incorporate back in.
Thank you. I’m sitting here watching this wondering where is she getting this stuff from. It was made 2 years ago so maybe he said something different back then but it’s certainly not what he’s saying now
Thanks for posting this! I had heard that bit of your previous video and wondered what you meant about not liking Barnard, so I was grateful you made a whole video on it. I've never done well with the low-fat version of a vegan diet, and it's contributed to feeling like a failure on countless occasions. Unfortunately, it's VERY popular right now and that definitely gives the impression of authority, that it's the "only" way, or that it's somehow the consensus of vegan nutrition advice. I appreciate your encouragement to (mindfully) eat healthy fats.
The other issue with asserting that diabetes comes from consuming animal fats ignores the fact that there are people on vegan/ vegetarian diets who still have diabetes. In south India (which has large plant based communities) where rice consumption is incredibly high, there are also very high levels of diabetes
Asians get insulin resistant at much lower BMIs... For me as a low fat vegan, after two attempts to lose weight, I now know I need to keep under a BMI of 30. You can clearly see my liver emptying on my weight loss curves and I could FEEL my liver coming back online as a glycogen store. (Almost no impact on my waist size until I'd lost 10 kg)
I'm looking forward to seeing how much easier it will be putting miles in on my bike at a BMI under 28 than it was at 33 - hopefully no "bonking" ... It didn't help that in my ignorance I used to swig fruit smoothies as "fuel" !
I will however not be swapping carbs for fat - it's how the world's healthiest people live.
If you ever actually listen to Dr. Bernard he doesn’t say a WFPBLF diet will cure all diabetics but it does seem to improve all diabetics and cure many. That’s actually what he says. What she says he says is not correct
I love Dr. Neal Barnard
I think what is mostly to thank Barnard on is his message on intramyocellural fat's importance on insulin resistance and diabetes. I'm not an expert but from what I understand it's somewhat the same thing as viscular fat which is also highly associated with metabolic syndrome. But you have a point that he can be seen as overplaying the importance of animal products behind it since foods like processed carbs (and alcohol) are highly associated with building visceral fat and even persons in the healthy range of weight can have insulin resistance if their intake of such calories is unusually high. I think saturated fat (high in many animal products) is also associated with building greater amount of visceral fat than healthy diet but I'm not sure if the causation on it is proven as well as with refined carbs and alcohol. Yes weight loss works on preventing insulin medication because the most harmful fat is also the fat that the body first burns away.
But pff, like you, I'm not an expert either but just trying to make some kind of a picture on everything what is being said in the crossfire of all the experts and non-experts. Let's try stay healthy. Peace.
Great. But it is a shame the most important part starts at minute 16... Still very valuable 👍👍👍
High fat diets do not improve insulin sensitivity from what I can see. They improve the symptoms because you are eating low carb but they actually decrease insulin sensitivity. So you are confusing improving symptoms and improving insulin resistance aren't you?
Insulin resistance causes those symptoms though? So one could use them interchangeably?
@@lilcrabbybabby No the disease is insulin resistance which means insulin does not work to get glucose into the muscles as it should. If you have low blood glucose because you eat low carb diet and don't include foods that spike blood sugar then even though you have insulin resistance you won't have the symptoms (as soon as you eat carbs again you will though). Neal Bernard is claiming that insulin resistance is improved by a whole food plant based diet not just the symptoms. That is you can eat carbs and have no carb metabolism issues (so the disease is cured instead of managed). He takes into account other cofounding variables like weight loss which also improve insulin resistance (as UV did correctly point out in the video). So I think this is where Unnatural Vegan appears to be oversimplifying and misrepresenting the case (as Neal Bernard claims the disease is reversed after factoring out weight loss). And from what I've read about this high fat diets make the disease worse (i.e they decrease insulin sensitivity once you have factored out variables like weight loss). Which means that Neal Bernard is right AFAICS. However, I'm no expert on this issue. Neal Bernard is and has published studies and I expect he probably has a better understanding of the science than UV does...
Correct. Just because someone lowers their blood sugar with a sugar-restricted diet does not mean their insulin sensitivity has increased.
Thank you, finally someone gets it. UV tried keto and failed miserably because she's a moron who thought keto was a good idea.
@Laszlo Vegh What you said does not conflict with anything I've said so no idea why you have to be so rude. Fasting is a good way to get rid of intra-myo-cellular-lipids in the muscles and it is true that if you do that you will improve your insulin resistance and probably be able to eat a much higher fat diet as a result without developing insulin resistance. Perhaps it is also possible to eat heavy fatty animal products and fast to avoid the negative health consequences. But my comment was not about fasting and most people do not practice that all the time. My comment was related to dietary choices and the fact the Neil Bernard shows that you can eat a whole food plant based diet to reverse insulin resistance without fasting.
LOL. You don't know what you are talking about. Neal Barnard has done loads of high quality peer reviewed research.
She was demonetized because of showing parts of what the health?
It's because of copyright stuff or because what the health doesn't follow youtube's guidelines of ideals ( like antivax movements for example)?
I never heard that legumes could raise triglyceride levels. If anything, their low glycemic level not to mention their resistant starch would lower levels.
I agree for the most part. but I have a problem with anyone uses the phrase "there is no evidence for …." it suggests that you have comprehensively read every study to this date.
Please,make a video about Kalel's recent video. She has started to consume meat and eggs again for health, but claims to be remorseful as that is her last choice for her health. I think she feels lost and needs a response video from someone like you (also for her viewers who took what she said about veganism,both ethically and health wise as a fact)
Just saw in your “am I fat? Is being fat bad for veganism” video, you mention that you have great respect for Neal Barnard. I thought I had heard otherwise from you, so I searched and found this video. Thought you may want to know that is out there, as I know you are careful about removing content that contains your outdated views.
At the end, I thought my alarm went off xD
This video got me to rethink, I will definitely do more research. Great video!
Thank you for that explanation. Very helpful. I still think Barnard is the man.
Can you do a response video to Kalel on her going back to eating meat. Specifically the claims she made about lysine absorption?
No fat made me hungry all the time. Adding fats and protein was a game changer for me personally. So much easier to lose weight. Life changing. There are many paths to health. No one path works for everyone.
This was a great video. I'm really glad I found your channel! It's refreshing to see a level-headed person talk about veganism and speak up against other vegans (including doctor's) who are saying things that aren't necessarily true, even if they have good intentions. I've been vegan for 2 years now and I think I needed your videos at this point in my life. I've started supplementing B12, Vit D & Calcium because of you, as well as watch my protein intake more carefully. Thank you for doing what you do!
I do B12, D, calcium fortified plant milk and seaweed like dulse or wakame for iodine daily + long chain omega 3's 3 times a week.
Great outro! ;P
But on a serious note, what I miss in discussions of fats in diet, particularly when low-fat supporters discuss it, is the fact that we need to consume a decent amount of fat with each meal to ensure sufficient uptake of fat-soluble vitamins from our food. This is particularly important for children. Moreover, a diet overloaded with raw fiber, can, depending on your source of fiber, expose you to high levels of phytochemicals, such as phytic acid, polyphenols, tannins, oxalate and even cyanogenic glycosides. All of these strongly bind dietary minerals and micronutrients, inhibiting their uptake by the intestine. Moreover, cyanogenic glycosides are toxic, they drain your body's B12 reserves, and can lead to B12 deficiency and chronic histotoxic hypoxia, if consumed regularly over extended time.
Having said that, some of these risky phytochemicals also occur in significant amounts in nuts, grains and legumes. However, their content can be reduced to uncritical levels by soaking, cooking, germination or fermenting. So, people, *Always soak your nuts !!!* (and grains and legumes and and and), and avoid raw fiber and cook it, if you can.
Watch Dr. Michael Greger's videos on nuts. It is interesting that in the case of nuts the actual calories are not that important. They seem to have other stuff that does not allow you to get fat that easily.
Peanut butter diet, here I come!
@@anonchick4789 High in Lectins !!!
I find that I have struggled being on a vegan diet. I have tried low fat high carb and I can never be satisfied after a meal and then overeat. It has been frustrating.
I'mma name my baby "Intramyo Cellular Lipitz".
Richard Ian Tracy 😂😂😂
My viewing experience was interrupted by a 26min hunting ad (skippable). Wtf, UA-cam...?
Thanks for responding to questions about Barnard Swayze :)
Use ublock origin on browser, or Vanced instead of the UA-cam app to remove all ads.
@@Nayr747 I use Firefox and Ublock Origin on my computer - but haven't moved away from the UA-cam app or Google services on Android yet. Vanced doesn't appear to be in the F-Droid store. Is it trustworthy? I don't experience so many ads when casting to my TV - but mobile, on its own, has become way more aggressive.
@@mafuyu9063 Yeah it's legit. It's just a modified version of the official YT app so everything works the same. You can even link your YT account so nothing's different other than no ads and more options available. You can get it here: www.reddit.com/r/Vanced/comments/9vp0eb/vanced_release_134350/
Aww...so nice to see sniff again
High carb is only filling if you eat high fiber foods like broccoli, cabbage, lentils, etc. I made a soup yesterday with a can of beans and a bunch of vegetables with some egg whites. It was only 600 calories and I felt like my stomach was going to explode. I didn’t get hungry again for 9 hours. My total calorie intake is only about 1800 now and I’m burning about 2400. I used to eat 2800 until I cut out dairy and sweets. Cheese, ice cream, milk, cookies, pasta, sandwiches. All fattening foods that make you hungry 2 hours after you eat them.
smugly watching this whilst eating toast with about a 2 inch layer of peanut butter on top 😏 love my plant fats, but I have an unhealthy obsession with peanut butter🤣💖
Gluten is toxic so you’re actually not very smart for eating the toast. Peanuts have lectins which are carbohydrate binding proteins that cause leaky gut. Good luck with your food choices HAHAHA 😂😂😂
Oh yes you talk about nuts and seeds and how you can eat them and a little oil even. Dr Doug Lisle who is the psychologist for the McDougall diet and in with that whole group of doctors: Goldhammer,,Bernard, Esselstein,Campbell , he says that yes it depends on genetics to some people can get away with this and some people can't so you were right about that. But when you eat oil all the time it does affect the arteries yes it does yes it does. Even olive oil .You have to remember that oil is a processed food just like table sugar.
Exactly! No oil! It's very bad for everyone.
Please do a review on Nina and Randa's no fat diet
So who do u recommend ?
Hasn’t this man published numerous studies and peer reviewed articles on diabetes and nutrition though..?
Alex Grace exactly
@@domrice8628 exactly what?
Barnard is much more than what has been referred here. High consumption of saturated fat is the problem, whatever its ORIGIN. You are young and not particularly bothered by cholesterol and the consequent repercussions down the road of life, manifesting themselves in Altheimer and CVD.
Oh, I've missed watching your videos. Even for a meat-eater such as myself, who most often eats whatever tastes good, I find your videos very interesting and refreshingly unbiased. Keep up the good work. 😊
This is an excellent message. Thanks a lot.
I recently found dr. Bernard and I enjoyed his information since I am diabetic
Hope you're getting better!
Follow dr. Fung instead.
I tried eating 80/10/10 and I felt so awful on the diet. My blood sugar was spiked so bad, I always felt hungry. After eating meals, I actually felt hungrier than before the meal. That's why these high carb fruitarians like Fullyraw and Freelee eat crazy amounts of food
What you are describing is consistent with insulin resistance. Just FYI.
Please do a video on why we crave sugar filled junk foods! I’ve been vegan for about a week and the sugar craving is unbearable. What am I doing wrong? I’m eating a variety of plant foods so I don’t get it . Also am eating about a half avocado a day so I can’t even say I’m not eating enough fat
You could be low on Iron.
Check your gut flora and up your caloric intake. All vegetarian animals basically eat. All. Day.
@@Coden11
Very true 👍
Do they not teach nutritionists about food history? The soda my grandfather drank is nothing to what I have available.