Whoever did the 50 degrees Fahrenheit = 10 degrees Celsius conversion doesn't understand the difference between a temperature and a change in temperature. A change of 10 degrees Celsius is a change of only 18 degrees Fahrenheit.
@@ac.creations Dumdum... it's an "air conditioner" with no barrier for hot and cold. It's as effective as taking an AC unit and putting it in your living room and expecting it to cool. Spoiler: It doesn't. Iz DeR aNy EvIdEnCe?!?!?!?!?! Yes, the laws of physics. JFC.
Differential signaling was a silent take over on computing pretty much. Until the pentium era, basically only ethernet used differential signaling. But then USB,sata,pci-e,displayport/hdmi... One by one, every PC connection was replaced by another standard that used differential signaling for better performance.
Actually, differential signalling was part of some serial protocol standards (such as RS-422, common in many industrial applications, and also used by some early Macintosh peripherals) since at least 1975, and I believe Low-Voltage Differential Signalling (LVDS) was already widely used in laptop displays and SCSI hard disks in the early-to-mid 90s. But yes, as speed requirements increased in general, pretty much everything went to LVDS because it provides much higher reliability for high-speed data over a given distance (nowadays differential signalling is even often used for some types of communication channels inside the silicon of CPUs and GPUs, too). Of course at the same time many things also went from parallel to serial too, so the transition to differential signalling for lots of things actually came with fewer pins, not more (which is why many modern PCIe cards have much much fewer pins than older ISA/EISA/VLB/AGP/PCI cards did, etc).
Laws of thermodynamics say NO. 7000 mAh @5 V for 6 hours of cooling? Even at 100% efficiency that would only be about 6 W of cooling power. For reference, a human body in rest generates about 80 W of heat, and even a small portable AC uses 1000 W.
@@alxndrassies Yeah, I was trying to same it kindly. Linus hates subscription stuff and has done a LOT of ads for the subscription-bed-cooler already, and this is really making it look worse as well. They're really falling off.
I thought linus media group didn't advertise shit products? Theirs no way that mobile "ac" works. I swear a simular device was discussed by linus about half a decade ago.
You forgot to mention that while its possible to send data two ways using the same cable (or the same differential pair) you usually need to wait between messages to allow traffic from the other side (similar to how it works with cars). That's why you usually have 2 (or more) differential pairs each going in one direction only. And if traffic usually goes in one direction, then you can have an asymmetric connection (eg. 3 pairs going in one direction and just one going in the other). A good example is ADSL internet (though the asymmetry is usually deeper in the network) that has more connectors for downloading than for uploading data.
I worked at Boeing for years. Some of the connectors on airplanes can have over 70 pins and supply up to 110 volts at 400 Hz to a variety of equipment. Troubleshooting on these connectors was always a joy.
The temperature conversion on the sketchy sponsor is wrong. Assuming the 10°C of temperature difference is the right one, that equates to 18°F of temperature difference, not 50°F.
You forgot one of the other main reasons why there are so many pins to transfer data, especially with cables and PCIE cards. The reason is because they can't drive the data transfer speed too high or the cable (and even the tracks of solder on the motherboard) begin to send out RF (radio frequencies) which causes interference and issues with many other devices. The reason why CPUs can get super fast clock speeds in the Ghz range without this issue is because the components are all super close to each other and on the same die. When you need to transfer data to a graphics card though, the clock speeds have to slow down to go the distance. To keep bandwidth high, they just add more lanes to PCIE since they can't turn the frequency up any more.
This is completely backwards. Clock speeds go up at longer distances. SFP28 has up to a 28GHz clock, much higher than any CPU, and transmits over several meters of Cu. Even PCIe 4.0 (a common CPU-GPU interface) clocks at 16GHz. PCIe has had regular increases in clock speed, from 2.5GHz with PCIe 1.0, through 5, 8, 16, and 32GHz with PCIe 5.0. PCIe has never added to the 32 lanes originally specified and only x16 lanes are common.
Aside from it being a random Indiegogo product, big yikes on the sponsor. The temperatures are all different and conversions are wrong on the links and why would this thing to give heart rate and blood O2 data? How did that get past LTT quality control?
If y'all take tech quickie topic suggestions, could you guys possibly cover texture compression technologies so people can have a better understanding of how this tech works?
although the flash warning is good, an audible end of flashing would be a lot better so that flash sensitive people will no when it's safe to look again.
I'm wondering if that's what the "as you can see from this picture..." bit is for. Might just be a coincidence, but it could have been done on purpose since it's reasonable to assume that the flashing segment is gone by that point. Still wouldn't hurt to have a beep, though
@@OrangeC7 for all the viewer knows without looking at the video there could be a still image with flashing still in the background. if you're someone with flash sensitive epilepsy that a bit of a risk to take. I'm just giving constructive criticism.
Putting power and data on the same pins doesn't "cause interference" (if done correctly). There are actually several common applications which do exactly that and work just fine (such as Power Over Ethernet). The real answer is just that it's _easier_ to put them on separate pins because that way you don't need additional circuitry to combine them on one end and separate them on the other.
The original serial port had 25 pins, even though at it's most generous only ever used 11, why? Because the first person to build a computer with one had a bunch of surplus 25 pin plugs so that's what he used, then everyone that came after had to follow suit or break compatibility, eventually 9 pin for serial won out as a more popular standard but even it had most of it's pins dedicated for rarely used and not entirely necessary functions.
I think there is a peltierelement inside, wich should provide actually some cooling. There is only the question of the heat dispoasal. I guess that it will line in the endless familiy of crappy peltierelement products. But, if you want to waste 300$, you'll have some nice pice of tech, to show anybody else.
All cables in germany and probably the rest of europe are rated for at least 16 Amps, which is the current which would trip your breakers. Only difference being the ones you put in the wall which may have to be rated for more, im not sure, i do know that the diameter needed is different for the same current the more phases you run through a cable and we do have 3 phase circulatory current with 400V between 2 phases, we use that for industrial machinery and for electric stoves.
he’s still ceo for another 5 weeks or so. also not every single decision goes through the ceo. the sponsor is shit but i doubt anyone that knows their stuff looked at the ‘portable ac’
Neck air conditioner is a must to people who have to expose themselves outdoors on hot summer days, such as blue workers, hikers, campers, and travellers etc. to prevent heat stroke. Why can't it be advertised to people in need?
@@sneps-ix2th RANVOO is the No.1 brand of personal appliances in China, and AICE 3 is the best (and most expensive) neck air conditioner on the market. Maybe you should give it a try before judging.
As a new product category, neck air conditioner is a must to people who have to expose themselves outdoors during hot summer days, such as blue collars, hikers, campers and travelers etc. And AICE 3 is the best one among them all.
There are extra pins on type C cables for backwards compatibility with older usb spec transfers. As those get phased out I wonder if it just becomes extra bloat that doesn’t get used anymore to keep the type C standard in play
No, they dont serve as shields, at least not by design. You ground the spare wires (or in most cases, connect them to 0V) so that they dont act like antennas that induce voltages on the wires that you actually do use. RS485 is a prime example of a standard that will suffer from floating wires.
The charger for the original iPod Touch was almost impossible to plug in. It could only be pugged in one way, but no matter which way I tried it wouldn't go in. I would have to try it a bunch of times before it finally went in. I even tried unplugging it and then immediately tried plugging it back in, but it wouldn't go in. This proves that even when it's the right direction, it still won't go in until after a bunch of tries.
You really didn't mention the shielding thing with detail, and the detail is short. Data signals that clock at high speeds will both be subject to interference from the other lines in the cable and ALSO any strong signals in the room. Those high speed signals ALSO will generate interference into data lines in the same cable. So, data lines are twisted with a ground line which helps to contain the signal, and for this you have to understand inductance but that's above the scope of this video. Data lines, for which most data cables have a few, are wrapped with a ground line to make a twisted pair and this creates the shielding needed inside the cable bundle. The ENTIRE cable can also be shielded to reduce the ability of an external signal being propagated into the cable, and this is important if you're in an area where there's a lot of external transmissions.
0:41 This made me think of American cables. At 13 Amps the left cable would give us Europeans 2990 watts and the right one at 15 Amps a whopping 3450. In other words, the EU to C13 cables I use are rated at 6 A. For 1380 watts. Enough for any pc. Well. Almost any pc.
AICE 3 respects the laws of thermodynamics: it uses Peltier effect and a patented air duct design, to bring the heat generated during cooling to the outward of the product, so that you only feel cooliness when wearing it.
Seriously a promotion for a random Indiegogo prototype? This project is so fishy I can´t believe it made it into a video. How about at least not promoting potential scams? Like these are the absolute basics.
Sorry to make you feel that way. As a new product category, neck air conditioner is a must for people who have to expose themselves outdoors during hot summer days, such as blue collars, hikers, campers and travelers etc. And AICE 3 is the best one among them all.
The flash warning before the flashy bit is cool, but y'all should have some sort of audio signal so if someone looks away or closes their eyes, they know when it's safe to look again
Your watching a video on UA-cam a flashing warning shouldn't be necessary. Your legit watching videos what do you expect.... get off UA-cam if thats a issue to u
@@lorenmurray6711 … not every video is going to have flashing images? What are people with photosensitive epilepsy supposed to do, never watch anything ever? It’s not unreasonable to give warning when there will be flashing, it’s not like it costs money or hurts anyone
Don't worry, the battery of AICE 3 is deeply customized to be compact and safe. It has passed both our internal safety tests and external safety certificates (including FCC and PSE etc.)
Thank you for asking. RANVOO brand has existed for over 10 years (founded in 2012) and it's now the largest brand of personal appliances in China. AICE 3 is its 6th generation of neck fan products, and the 3rd generation of neck air conditioners. So both the brand and product are real, not a scam / fraud.
Yes, AICE 3 is a portable air conditioner that you can wear on your neck and bring with you anywhere you go. It can cool you down when feeling hot, and warm you up when feeling cold, just like an ordinary air conditioner does.
single 12VHPWR 600W being smaller than its predecessors 8 pin at 150W max really shows how great that connector really is /s just in case it wasn't obvious
about sponsor: in what way is a simple MPU for a thing like this AI, whoever greenlit this ad needs to not be so easily enticed by the latest buzzwords, IFTHEN =/= AI. i could make one today that does the same thing with the junk i have laying around. if neck gets hot, then turn on fan, if neck gets real hot, then turn on peltier chip and another fan. ... can do it lighter with a simple anker pack all at 5V with $35 ($300) worth of parts. since id be designing the housing using 3D cad models, id already have my 3d demo vid. also, i thought these startup sites had rules now about established companies using them to hype up their productline. annnnnd a little more poking around, this is becoming one of those look/work all the same cheap Shenzhen devices you would find all over amazon, bog standard chips (most likely scrubbed), casings, and features just with a custom name slapped on the housing (search "neck cooler") TL;DR, you sponsor is selling overpriced junk with overplayed busswords. way to go LMG.
Thank you for your suggestions. We do hope making AICE 3 is that simple. 2 x 3,500mAh batteries + 4 high-speed fans + 6 sensors + 2 thermal pads + 1 touch screen + 1 speaker + 1 micphone, not to mention air duct design, electronic circuit design, firmware design and App design (yes, it has an App), hardware and software collaboration... Our R&D team took nearly a whole year to make AICE 3, if you can make AICE 4 in a cheap, fast and effective way, come and join us, seriously.
Now, somebody tell me about old 68-pin SCSI 3 hard drive connectors. Hint: Differential signaling on a parallel data bus. Or the even older Centronics printer connectors. At the time, it seemed unreal when those printer-server boxes (required to give an IP address to any printer) had an input from an 100 yards long CAT5, 100 MBit/s Ethernet connector and provided an output to a DB25 parallel cable that couldn't be longer than a meter or two. Those were different times, power had nothing to do with all those pins; the I/O speeds were seriously lacking...
AICE 3 does what an ordinary air conditioner does, but it's only 1/300 the volume, 1/200 the weight, 1/100 the power consumption of an ordinary air conditioner. So that you can take it with you and save your electricity bills.
For data and information transfair between computer hard ware And I think sockets without pins is the best sockets And simple and the data and information are transfair explanations but with pins when any pin is broken then data and information will not transfair excellent.
RANVOO brand has existed for over 10 years (founded in 2012) and it's now the largest brand of personal appliances in China. AICE 3 is its 6th generation of neck fan products, and the 3rd generation of neck air condirtioner. So both the brand and product are real not a fraud.
@@henryzhong1989 i never doubted the fact it exists, but im doubting its usefulness. It feels like an over engineered solution to a very basic problem. That's just me though
Ok, so for an N-thousand-pin CPU socket, why not have the 4 perimiters "voltage bars" that handle +v and gnd? Why N-times-1-pin instead of bar-with-n-pins? then they would only need pins for data/clk ? Similar with power supplies? Why not have Big-Gauge-wire-and-connector instead of 12-small-pins X2 for +v and gnd?
0:54 modern CPU don't have pins anymore at all 😊 They have tons of pads, connecting to pins now being on the motherboards. Installing the newest EPYC must be a nightmare to install with each single pad having good contact... 😮
Wish you could explain more about differential signaling and how it works. I've quite often just used things like pwm for my microcontrollers so most of my stuff just uses 3 pins 2 for power and 1 for data.
I’m going to surmise it’s the same idea as a balanced audio cable, having the signal 180° out of phase with itself means that any interference that gets picked up will be cancelled when the inverted signal is inverted again at the end.
@@TheTubadMoose yes, and there are lots of videos explaining it well on youtube as well, but I think OP means that they could have explained it a bit more in this video.
SDI has 2 pins (one inside for signal and the other is the screw for ground) and it can only send signals. Though there is also a standard called "1-wire" that while using 2 pins, it can transfer both data and power via the same pin.
Video suggestion as a follow up to this one about how much an pcie 8x slot is limited versus an 16x slot and if (for an gpu) an 5th gen 8x slot would perform better than an 4th gen x16 slot.
Absolutely! There aren't already thousands of videos showing exactly how PCI-gen and bandwidth affects the performance of literally every card from the last 10 years or so.
A PCIe x8 slot has half the total bandwidth of an x16 slot of the same generation. There are some x16 peripherals like network interfaces, FPGAs, or NVME drives that have an x16 interface but are actually multiple sub-devices with individual x4 or x8 connections, so they either won't work at all or lose half the devices in an x8 slot. PCIe slots less than x16 are also limited to 25W power through the slot. Given that most GPUs will only connect at 4th gen speeds, 4.0 x16 has more bandwidth than 5.0 x8, though PCIe bandwidth is rarely the bottleneck for gaming applications. If you were using a PCIe 5.0 capable card, bandwidth would be equal, with the gen 5.0 connection having lower latency. PCIe 5.0 can also have CXL cache coherency which should reduce some of the pressure on the bus.
Whoever did the 50 degrees Fahrenheit = 10 degrees Celsius conversion doesn't understand the difference between a temperature and a change in temperature. A change of 10 degrees Celsius is a change of only 18 degrees Fahrenheit, not 50.
Thanks guys for this content, and also this widest dude on your channel you referred to have one of just amazing voices over you tube. Seriously pleased to hear him telling a stories about electronics in your other videos.
Sorry to make you feel this way. RANVOO is just a regular sponsor, neck air conditioner is a new product category, and AICE 3 is the most special one in it (most expensive and also the best).
They forgot the dallas 1-wire and the plc protokolls. It's possible to have only 2 pins but it's hard. The 4-Pin I2C /TWI is one of the best interfaces (sd-cards for example). It would be great to have 2 wires only but the industry don't want to come to one standard. 1 GBit/s over 2-wires (with power) where possible 10 years ago (PLC; ok there where some flaws and you need to reboot this things every 3 month or so but it worked and could be resolved).
Yes, AICE 3 does have AI (algorithm) inside. So that it can control the temperature and wind speed for you wherever you go, instead of requiring constant manual control.
I legit said 'WTF' out loud when watching that sponsor bit.
You willingly watch ads, instead of skipping them?
@@JakeobE I was skipping it and see bits of what it was... and I had to know hahaha
SAME
@@JakeobE I went back to it
Same. It’s so obvious that it was sketchy. Someone at LMG should’ve caught that haha
Hey Riley forget about the pins we want a video about that mobile ac that can be put around our neck. Thats ridiculous
Crazy Ken will review it
Does look cool doesnt it.. ;)
I was so intrigued by this sponsor that I didn't try to skip it
I'm sure it's a scam but I'll be happy to be proven wrong
I want to know how the screen works when it is around your neck 🙄
There is no way Linus looked at that neck cooler thing and approved it
Because that's not his job
It apparently works, and you were featured in a video so a win-win i guess
i knew this comment was familiar, it was shown in one of the newest videos in LTT channel
Clearly Linus hasn't been the best decision maker recently
Wait does Techquickie just advertise anything? If we advertise neck coolers, do we also advertise dysons mask headset?
Neckcooler Indiegogo scams. It´s not even a real product yet
I need a neckbeard shaver.
How to get neck hurting 101
I'm glad other people's bullshit detector went off there too.
Whoever did the 50 degrees Fahrenheit = 10 degrees Celsius conversion doesn't understand the difference between a temperature and a change in temperature. A change of 10 degrees Celsius is a change of only 18 degrees Fahrenheit.
WTF is that Sponsorspot
No idea, as soon as I feel the sponsor spot coming I instantly forward the video. Linus made me perfection this 😂
I'm curious how it works I wish Linus would do a review of AICE3
@@onowahoo Hope so, but we're short of money to sponsor the dedicated review video.😂
Better screening of sponsors needed
So true I am honestly a bit shocked. An ad for a shitty Indiegogo project/idea/scam wtf.
I had to go back bc I skip sponsors like a normal person but wtf
@@noahfischer1312 Any evidence to say this??
@@ac.creations Dumdum... it's an "air conditioner" with no barrier for hot and cold.
It's as effective as taking an AC unit and putting it in your living room and expecting it to cool.
Spoiler: It doesn't.
Iz DeR aNy EvIdEnCe?!?!?!?!?!
Yes, the laws of physics. JFC.
Why not advertise something we might actually buy?
You know your sponsor segue is ridiculous when me, who usually skips them, intentionally goes back to look at it again as a double take and goes "wtf"
i usually skip/tune out ads but this sounded so dumb i had to rewind as well. they got me to watch the ad, too bad the product seems like a scam
@@litapd311 yep
@@litapd311 all UA-cam sponsorship products are scams
If you ever hear a company sponsor a UA-camr, do not trust the company ever again
same, I really want a review
Dam the sponsor spot was so good that people watched it multiple times).
"Uses AI technology to adjust the wind"
It interesting, but what ai technology is required to control the temp?
Not all algorithms are ai
My guess is that they are referring to the app that pairs with the device, like how Siri is called AI
@@Gazpolling Just capitalizing on buzzwords with a device that is obviously superfluous and complete jank
Yes but can it run Doom
Differential signaling was a silent take over on computing pretty much. Until the pentium era, basically only ethernet used differential signaling.
But then USB,sata,pci-e,displayport/hdmi... One by one, every PC connection was replaced by another standard that used differential signaling for better performance.
interesting
Thank goodness too. It's a simple but rock solid signaling technique
i guess thats why we still use it all these years later
out of curiosity, is it used for traces on motherboards?
Actually, differential signalling was part of some serial protocol standards (such as RS-422, common in many industrial applications, and also used by some early Macintosh peripherals) since at least 1975, and I believe Low-Voltage Differential Signalling (LVDS) was already widely used in laptop displays and SCSI hard disks in the early-to-mid 90s.
But yes, as speed requirements increased in general, pretty much everything went to LVDS because it provides much higher reliability for high-speed data over a given distance (nowadays differential signalling is even often used for some types of communication channels inside the silicon of CPUs and GPUs, too).
Of course at the same time many things also went from parallel to serial too, so the transition to differential signalling for lots of things actually came with fewer pins, not more (which is why many modern PCIe cards have much much fewer pins than older ISA/EISA/VLB/AGP/PCI cards did, etc).
Please get your electrical engineers to review sponsorships like this, in the future. It looks like a scam.
100%
Laws of thermodynamics say NO. 7000 mAh @5 V for 6 hours of cooling? Even at 100% efficiency that would only be about 6 W of cooling power. For reference, a human body in rest generates about 80 W of heat, and even a small portable AC uses 1000 W.
@@alxndrassies Yeah, I was trying to same it kindly.
Linus hates subscription stuff and has done a LOT of ads for the subscription-bed-cooler already, and this is really making it look worse as well.
They're really falling off.
But it has the all mighty AI, so that means it can defy the laws of physics ;)
You mean electronics engineers. I am pretty sure that neck ac doesn't use 110V.
I thought linus media group didn't advertise shit products? Theirs no way that mobile "ac" works. I swear a simular device was discussed by linus about half a decade ago.
It’s different from the cheap C garbage LOL
It´s not even real yet it´s an Indiegogo fundraiser like wtf
@@LeeMooEez It's the same thing with the same shit just said differently
They advertised that shitty Steam Deck competitor recently, so...
It truly works and helps people that have to expose themselves in hot environments like blue collars, hikers and travelers, etc.
You forgot to mention that while its possible to send data two ways using the same cable (or the same differential pair) you usually need to wait between messages to allow traffic from the other side (similar to how it works with cars).
That's why you usually have 2 (or more) differential pairs each going in one direction only.
And if traffic usually goes in one direction, then you can have an asymmetric connection (eg. 3 pairs going in one direction and just one going in the other). A good example is ADSL internet (though the asymmetry is usually deeper in the network) that has more connectors for downloading than for uploading data.
CANBus and i2c, even though the latter use single ended signalling also do the same thing
I worked at Boeing for years. Some of the connectors on airplanes can have over 70 pins and supply up to 110 volts at 400 Hz to a variety of equipment. Troubleshooting on these connectors was always a joy.
The temperature conversion on the sketchy sponsor is wrong. Assuming the 10°C of temperature difference is the right one, that equates to 18°F of temperature difference, not 50°F.
This Indiegogo fundraiser is so obviosly a scam LTT has 0 integrety left when it comes to sponsorships
Somebody failed to appreciate the distinction between _temperature_ versus _temperature difference_ .
You forgot one of the other main reasons why there are so many pins to transfer data, especially with cables and PCIE cards. The reason is because they can't drive the data transfer speed too high or the cable (and even the tracks of solder on the motherboard) begin to send out RF (radio frequencies) which causes interference and issues with many other devices.
The reason why CPUs can get super fast clock speeds in the Ghz range without this issue is because the components are all super close to each other and on the same die. When you need to transfer data to a graphics card though, the clock speeds have to slow down to go the distance. To keep bandwidth high, they just add more lanes to PCIE since they can't turn the frequency up any more.
And yet gigabit Ethernet works fine over unshielded twisted-pair wiring.
1000mbps (125MBps) vs PCIe gen4 x1 at 2GBps. PCIe is way faster than gigabit Ethernet. And motherboard traces can’t be twisted. What’s your point?
is this why faster connection speeds have lower cable lengths? pretty cool
@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 gigabit isnt that fast lol
This is completely backwards. Clock speeds go up at longer distances. SFP28 has up to a 28GHz clock, much higher than any CPU, and transmits over several meters of Cu. Even PCIe 4.0 (a common CPU-GPU interface) clocks at 16GHz. PCIe has had regular increases in clock speed, from 2.5GHz with PCIe 1.0, through 5, 8, 16, and 32GHz with PCIe 5.0. PCIe has never added to the 32 lanes originally specified and only x16 lanes are common.
My brother in christ, what is that sponsor? Indiegogo? That's not even selling!
Aside from it being a random Indiegogo product, big yikes on the sponsor. The temperatures are all different and conversions are wrong on the links and why would this thing to give heart rate and blood O2 data? How did that get past LTT quality control?
Can we pleeeeaaaaseee get a review of the portable AC on the unboxing channel?
This wiuld be hilariuous.
He just did it on the main channel
If y'all take tech quickie topic suggestions, could you guys possibly cover texture compression technologies so people can have a better understanding of how this tech works?
although the flash warning is good, an audible end of flashing would be a lot better so that flash sensitive people will no when it's safe to look again.
I'm wondering if that's what the "as you can see from this picture..." bit is for. Might just be a coincidence, but it could have been done on purpose since it's reasonable to assume that the flashing segment is gone by that point. Still wouldn't hurt to have a beep, though
@@OrangeC7 for all the viewer knows without looking at the video there could be a still image with flashing still in the background. if you're someone with flash sensitive epilepsy that a bit of a risk to take. I'm just giving constructive criticism.
So that ICE-collar sponsor is not a joke? …. A flu inducing sweat-odor dispenser … it’s real … wow
Putting power and data on the same pins doesn't "cause interference" (if done correctly). There are actually several common applications which do exactly that and work just fine (such as Power Over Ethernet). The real answer is just that it's _easier_ to put them on separate pins because that way you don't need additional circuitry to combine them on one end and separate them on the other.
On same wire ?
Many industrial protocols like HART do this
The original serial port had 25 pins, even though at it's most generous only ever used 11, why? Because the first person to build a computer with one had a bunch of surplus 25 pin plugs so that's what he used, then everyone that came after had to follow suit or break compatibility, eventually 9 pin for serial won out as a more popular standard but even it had most of it's pins dedicated for rarely used and not entirely necessary functions.
slow clock = less data = need for pins aka 12pin 600mhz = 24pin 300mhz (i think)
Riley is definitely channeling some Jeff Goldblum energy.
Pretty misleading to call a neck fan an 'air conditioner'
This ad is a scam surprised they took the sponsor.
A neck fan that doesn´t even exist yet it´s an Indiegogo fundraiser
I think there is a peltierelement inside, wich should provide actually some cooling. There is only the question of the heat dispoasal. I guess that it will line in the endless familiy of crappy peltierelement products. But, if you want to waste 300$, you'll have some nice pice of tech, to show anybody else.
@@korbinianrottmair8189 If it actually gets made that is
Its not misleading, you can use that air conditioner to cool your RaspberyPI zero supercomputer.
All cables in germany and probably the rest of europe are rated for at least 16 Amps, which is the current which would trip your breakers. Only difference being the ones you put in the wall which may have to be rated for more, im not sure, i do know that the diameter needed is different for the same current the more phases you run through a cable and we do have 3 phase circulatory current with 400V between 2 phases, we use that for industrial machinery and for electric stoves.
"They have a ton of those little pins on there!" -- Riley's discovering-basic-technology voice is my favorite
0:49 Linus scared the shit out of me 😭😭😭 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
I think the more important question would be...
Why does the USB-A cable never fit, no matter which side you try to plug it in
Superposition. It doesn't decide what side is correct until you try to plug it in. At which point it has an 80% chance of being upside-down.
its always the third try that works
Don't you have a Requiem to finish? 🥲
@@LaughingOrange good one!
It’s four dimensional.
Video sponsor has Dennis written all over it!.......
Linus steps down as CEO and now we get ads for neck air-conditioning?
Is it causation or correlation?
I must admit, though, the thought did cross my mind.
he’s still ceo for another 5 weeks or so. also not every single decision goes through the ceo. the sponsor is shit but i doubt anyone that knows their stuff looked at the ‘portable ac’
The ads on the tertiary channels have been pretty bad for a while, it feels like the channel have different have different ad teams
Neck air conditioner is a must to people who have to expose themselves outdoors on hot summer days, such as blue workers, hikers, campers, and travellers etc. to prevent heat stroke. Why can't it be advertised to people in need?
@@sneps-ix2th RANVOO is the No.1 brand of personal appliances in China, and AICE 3 is the best (and most expensive) neck air conditioner on the market. Maybe you should give it a try before judging.
DVI is way more satisfying to plug in than HDMI and Displayport.
👎for that unserious collar.
Riley as always is a gem, i would gladly listen to Riley' made audio books.
Spent the whole video distracted by that sponsor reading comments disappointing
Sorry, we didn't mean to. But RANVOO is a trustworthy brand and AICE 3 is a good product.
I had to double check it wasnt April 1st again after that sponsor... Are you really endorsing a personal ac system?
As a new product category, neck air conditioner is a must to people who have to expose themselves outdoors during hot summer days, such as blue collars, hikers, campers and travelers etc. And AICE 3 is the best one among them all.
@@henryzhong1989 ever heard of a wet towel? If people prepare properly, there's no need for a personal heat exchanger.
@@freescape08 Haha, yes, a wet towel is a traditional, affordable and effective way of cooling in summer with clean water nearby.
I can't relate with the video title, I've always been amazed at how few pins most connectors uses to attain the efficiency we find even since the 90s.
Not even an honorable mention for our beloved old IDE hard drives?
There are extra pins on type C cables for backwards compatibility with older usb spec transfers. As those get phased out I wonder if it just becomes extra bloat that doesn’t get used anymore to keep the type C standard in play
No, they dont serve as shields, at least not by design. You ground the spare wires (or in most cases, connect them to 0V) so that they dont act like antennas that induce voltages on the wires that you actually do use. RS485 is a prime example of a standard that will suffer from floating wires.
The charger for the original iPod Touch was almost impossible to plug in. It could only be pugged in one way, but no matter which way I tried it wouldn't go in. I would have to try it a bunch of times before it finally went in. I even tried unplugging it and then immediately tried plugging it back in, but it wouldn't go in. This proves that even when it's the right direction, it still won't go in until after a bunch of tries.
An air conditioner for your neck??? Is that something we really need in the world?
If it were real, maybe
You really didn't mention the shielding thing with detail, and the detail is short. Data signals that clock at high speeds will both be subject to interference from the other lines in the cable and ALSO any strong signals in the room. Those high speed signals ALSO will generate interference into data lines in the same cable. So, data lines are twisted with a ground line which helps to contain the signal, and for this you have to understand inductance but that's above the scope of this video. Data lines, for which most data cables have a few, are wrapped with a ground line to make a twisted pair and this creates the shielding needed inside the cable bundle. The ENTIRE cable can also be shielded to reduce the ability of an external signal being propagated into the cable, and this is important if you're in an area where there's a lot of external transmissions.
0:41 This made me think of American cables. At 13 Amps the left cable would give us Europeans 2990 watts and the right one at 15 Amps a whopping 3450.
In other words, the EU to C13 cables I use are rated at 6 A. For 1380 watts. Enough for any pc. Well. Almost any pc.
So all those people over at indiegogo payed money for a product that doesn't exist, but the money is used to pay for advertisment.
The sponsor has my BS detector going off. If it is a wearable aircon where is the heat going. Laws of thermal dynamics and all
AICE 3 respects the laws of thermodynamics: it uses Peltier effect and a patented air duct design, to bring the heat generated during cooling to the outward of the product, so that you only feel cooliness when wearing it.
Seriously a promotion for a random Indiegogo prototype? This project is so fishy I can´t believe it made it into a video. How about at least not promoting potential scams? Like these are the absolute basics.
an ac necklace is wierd tho. gonna have to wait 10 years for it ot cathc on
Sorry to make you feel that way. As a new product category, neck air conditioner is a must for people who have to expose themselves outdoors during hot summer days, such as blue collars, hikers, campers and travelers etc. And AICE 3 is the best one among them all.
The flash warning before the flashy bit is cool, but y'all should have some sort of audio signal so if someone looks away or closes their eyes, they know when it's safe to look again
yes
Perhaps you should have your mammy with you when you watch UA-cam videos
@@oldnelson4298 exactly the kind of comment i'd expect with a name like that
Your watching a video on UA-cam a flashing warning shouldn't be necessary. Your legit watching videos what do you expect.... get off UA-cam if thats a issue to u
@@lorenmurray6711 … not every video is going to have flashing images? What are people with photosensitive epilepsy supposed to do, never watch anything ever? It’s not unreasonable to give warning when there will be flashing, it’s not like it costs money or hurts anyone
2:19 you don't want to put a 7000 power battery on your neck and if it explode of overheat your dead !
Don't worry, the battery of AICE 3 is deeply customized to be compact and safe. It has passed both our internal safety tests and external safety certificates (including FCC and PSE etc.)
1 minute ad on a 3:46 video? Really? and yes I know about sponsor block...
Thank you for mentioning. To be honest, we're not expecting to be the main role in this sponsorship.😅
From Montreal Canada! Riley is the best presenter of the gang.
I don't know about that sponsor, guys..
Thank you for asking. RANVOO brand has existed for over 10 years (founded in 2012) and it's now the largest brand of personal appliances in China. AICE 3 is its 6th generation of neck fan products, and the 3rd generation of neck air conditioners. So both the brand and product are real, not a scam / fraud.
Always here to answer the questions I’ve never thought about 💀
So basically the sponsor for this was an air-cooler for a human neck?
How on brand for LMG.
Yes, AICE 3 is a portable air conditioner that you can wear on your neck and bring with you anywhere you go. It can cool you down when feeling hot, and warm you up when feeling cold, just like an ordinary air conditioner does.
single 12VHPWR 600W being smaller than its predecessors 8 pin at 150W max really shows how great that connector really is
/s just in case it wasn't obvious
Or how conservatively-rated the 8-pin was...
You know... because as long as the 12VHPWR cable is actually plugged in it's fine at 600 watts.
about sponsor: in what way is a simple MPU for a thing like this AI, whoever greenlit this ad needs to not be so easily enticed by the latest buzzwords, IFTHEN =/= AI. i could make one today that does the same thing with the junk i have laying around. if neck gets hot, then turn on fan, if neck gets real hot, then turn on peltier chip and another fan. ... can do it lighter with a simple anker pack all at 5V with $35 ($300) worth of parts. since id be designing the housing using 3D cad models, id already have my 3d demo vid. also, i thought these startup sites had rules now about established companies using them to hype up their productline. annnnnd a little more poking around, this is becoming one of those look/work all the same cheap Shenzhen devices you would find all over amazon, bog standard chips (most likely scrubbed), casings, and features just with a custom name slapped on the housing (search "neck cooler")
TL;DR, you sponsor is selling overpriced junk with overplayed busswords. way to go LMG.
Thank you for your suggestions. We do hope making AICE 3 is that simple. 2 x 3,500mAh batteries + 4 high-speed fans + 6 sensors + 2 thermal pads + 1 touch screen + 1 speaker + 1 micphone, not to mention air duct design, electronic circuit design, firmware design and App design (yes, it has an App), hardware and software collaboration... Our R&D team took nearly a whole year to make AICE 3, if you can make AICE 4 in a cheap, fast and effective way, come and join us, seriously.
Now, somebody tell me about old 68-pin SCSI 3 hard drive connectors. Hint: Differential signaling on a parallel data bus. Or the even older Centronics printer connectors. At the time, it seemed unreal when those printer-server boxes (required to give an IP address to any printer) had an input from an 100 yards long CAT5, 100 MBit/s Ethernet connector and provided an output to a DB25 parallel cable that couldn't be longer than a meter or two. Those were different times, power had nothing to do with all those pins; the I/O speeds were seriously lacking...
Thanks Riley!
Thanks for the video!
spoilers: that wearable air conditioner is $350!! You could buy several actual air conditioners at that price
AICE 3 does what an ordinary air conditioner does, but it's only 1/300 the volume, 1/200 the weight, 1/100 the power consumption of an ordinary air conditioner. So that you can take it with you and save your electricity bills.
You forgot to mention the difference between parallel and serial connections and why parallel connections have more than serial connections have.
More people talk about the neck thing than the video itself lol, probably was a bad idea to go with them for sponsors ;d
To be honest, we didn't expect our product to be the main role in this sponsorship. I even have to reply all comments regarding AICE 3 myself.😂
@@henryzhong1989 Haha, it is kind of funny the way that happened.
@@Starfals 😂
Ground is not the second pin you pointed to. The connector casing is grounded, the two pins for power are negative and positive terminals, not ground.
For data and information transfair between computer hard ware
And I think sockets without pins is the best sockets
And simple and the data and information are transfair explanations but with pins when any pin is broken then data and information will not transfair excellent.
This feels like an april first sponsor
RANVOO brand has existed for over 10 years (founded in 2012) and it's now the largest brand of personal appliances in China. AICE 3 is its 6th generation of neck fan products, and the 3rd generation of neck air condirtioner. So both the brand and product are real not a fraud.
@@henryzhong1989 i never doubted the fact it exists, but im doubting its usefulness. It feels like an over engineered solution to a very basic problem. That's just me though
Ok, so for an N-thousand-pin CPU socket, why not have the 4 perimiters "voltage bars" that handle +v and gnd? Why N-times-1-pin instead of bar-with-n-pins? then they would only need pins for data/clk ? Similar with power supplies? Why not have Big-Gauge-wire-and-connector instead of 12-small-pins X2 for +v and gnd?
0:54 modern CPU don't have pins anymore at all 😊 They have tons of pads, connecting to pins now being on the motherboards.
Installing the newest EPYC must be a nightmare to install with each single pad having good contact... 😮
Wish you could explain more about differential signaling and how it works.
I've quite often just used things like pwm for my microcontrollers so most of my stuff just uses 3 pins 2 for power and 1 for data.
I’m going to surmise it’s the same idea as a balanced audio cable, having the signal 180° out of phase with itself means that any interference that gets picked up will be cancelled when the inverted signal is inverted again at the end.
@@TheTubadMoose yes, and there are lots of videos explaining it well on youtube as well, but I think OP means that they could have explained it a bit more in this video.
but what about SDI cables, they only have "1" pin? would be great to get explained
The outer part is the ground, the inner part is the Serial of the Serial Digital Interface
SDI has 2 pins (one inside for signal and the other is the screw for ground) and it can only send signals.
Though there is also a standard called "1-wire" that while using 2 pins, it can transfer both data and power via the same pin.
10 degrees Celsius cooling is 18 degrees fahrenheit cooling not 50 degrees fahrenheit. You're not talking about an absolute temperature here.
2:59 I was fully expecting a CSGO style flash bang lol
Video suggestion as a follow up to this one about how much an pcie 8x slot is limited versus an 16x slot and if (for an gpu) an 5th gen 8x slot would perform better than an 4th gen x16 slot.
Exactly half
And: The same.
Absolutely! There aren't already thousands of videos showing exactly how PCI-gen and bandwidth affects the performance of literally every card from the last 10 years or so.
A PCIe x8 slot has half the total bandwidth of an x16 slot of the same generation. There are some x16 peripherals like network interfaces, FPGAs, or NVME drives that have an x16 interface but are actually multiple sub-devices with individual x4 or x8 connections, so they either won't work at all or lose half the devices in an x8 slot. PCIe slots less than x16 are also limited to 25W power through the slot.
Given that most GPUs will only connect at 4th gen speeds, 4.0 x16 has more bandwidth than 5.0 x8, though PCIe bandwidth is rarely the bottleneck for gaming applications. If you were using a PCIe 5.0 capable card, bandwidth would be equal, with the gen 5.0 connection having lower latency. PCIe 5.0 can also have CXL cache coherency which should reduce some of the pressure on the bus.
When USB-C hurts me more than the flash warning.
Whoever did the 50 degrees Fahrenheit = 10 degrees Celsius conversion doesn't understand the difference between a temperature and a change in temperature. A change of 10 degrees Celsius is a change of only 18 degrees Fahrenheit, not 50.
Thanks guys for this content, and also this widest dude on your channel you referred to have one of just amazing voices over you tube. Seriously pleased to hear him telling a stories about electronics in your other videos.
Riley slangin info like a G.. You love to see it
Now THAT is a weird sponsor
Sorry to make you feel this way. RANVOO is just a regular sponsor, neck air conditioner is a new product category, and AICE 3 is the most special one in it (most expensive and also the best).
now I can wait till them tell us about power splitting in motherboard handshaking info which device need certain voltages etc
Is that cooling neckband real? You guys should actually get that thing and review it because I think its a scam...
Sponsor was kind of interesting but when I clicked on it and saw that price tag, I laughed pretty hard.
If AICE 3 is priced at $39.9 instead of $399, and call itself an air conditioner, I will be laughing together with you.
Lol Riley trying to reference ‘die hard’ 🤣 he wasn’t even born!
Differential socket on the iPhone 15,16? So it can support usb-c or lightening smart 🧐
They forgot the dallas 1-wire and the plc protokolls. It's possible to have only 2 pins but it's hard. The 4-Pin I2C /TWI is one of the best interfaces (sd-cards for example). It would be great to have 2 wires only but the industry don't want to come to one standard. 1 GBit/s over 2-wires (with power) where possible 10 years ago (PLC; ok there where some flaws and you need to reboot this things every 3 month or so but it worked and could be resolved).
Why is there no techquickie for how usb works? Would be a great video!
There is, several in fact. Did they remove them?
@@Apocalymon no those videos are just on usb connectors
"You haven't clicked away yet so thanks for watching" - okay now I'm clicking away lol
If most components supposedly run _off_ 12V, then what amount of voltage do they run ON?
2:06 Bro they put AI inside a Fan now? 💀
Yes, AICE 3 does have AI (algorithm) inside. So that it can control the temperature and wind speed for you wherever you go, instead of requiring constant manual control.
Lol did LMG just advertise a scam kickstarter project
Love your presentation style
man that 75in tv fact is nuts
"Why not?" - this answer was always sufficient for me :)
They are needed to transfer more data for our sponsor
What kind of monster puts a B on the left and an A on the right for "A to B"? I know he gestured that way, but just flip him for that shot!
thanks
Wow, thanks for information ❤
that cable example is really bad because in europe all cables, even the cheap ones must endure ~3600 watts
This guy is my favorite presenter
can you do a video on pin 13: "Consumer Electronics Control"
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