This film was made at an impressive speed of only 19 days, and director Damien Chazelle managed to complete filming on time despite suffering a concussion from a car crash midway through filming.
I saw an interview with JK Simmons where he said the director wanted to talk to him about getting him up to speed so he could look like a jazz conductor, and Miles Teller could authentically fake the drumming. JK started laughing because he has degrees in music, and Miles plays drums in a band. According to JK, the director seriously didn't know this. If it's true, what a magical bit of casting.
Well Damien always wanted Miles for Andrew from the very beginning because he know of his rock drumming background. With JK, I don't think he knew at all.
When the protagonist and the antagonist both win and lose in the end, and they're both happy about it. The sad thing about the ending is that Neiman will think that the abuse was worth it to become great and will be chasing the high of that performance forever. Fletcher will think his crazy techniques were vindicated.
@@MichaelMele-u5m The abuse succeeded in Neiman's particular case. But it's a logical fallacy to assume that it was necessary and the only way to become the greatest. What does it take- innate skill, tons of practice, teachers, tools, random chance? Fletcher says that if he had said "Good job" it'd have prevented Neiman from excelling. Maybe that's true. Or maybe Neiman, or someone else in his class would have thrived with encouragement rather than adversity. Who knows? How many performers had the potential to be great if they'd simply practiced daily for 2 years but quit after the first verbal beatdown? Fletcher's way is like insisting the best way to create the next Olympic swimmer is to take a decently good swimmer and through them in the harbor till they make it across quicker and quicker. If they drown.. fuck them, they weren't meant to be it. It might work, and the results would be astonishing, but also you might get the same or better if you took 10 swimmers and made them train like a normal Olympian. I think this film wants us to ask these questions. But I think it's also very clear that what Fletcher is doing is insane, and it's making Neiman into a worse person who pushes away everyone else.
If you think that, then I'm sorry to say you didn't understand the movie at all. The face Neyman has at the very last scene is of regret. He regrets ever having stepped inside the conservatory. I like to believe that after the movie ends, Neyman goes back to engaging with his ex, forms a family and follows his dad's path. The whole thing people think about ambition has nothing to do with the way he behaves, but rather with the regret of being forced to do something that he doesn't enjoy at all (music, drumming) just because he's good at it and wants to be better and more successfull than his cousin the football player.
I'm pretty sure the implication of the dinner scene was that Neiman would go on to die similarly to how he would have preferred to have died. Drunk, broke at 34 with a bunch of people talking about him at a dinner table. Maybe not broke but I'm pretty sure the implication is that he would go on to die way to young and broken at least. But people would definitely remember him.
I'm a subscriber who rarely comments but when Vince said he was about to cry, I felt like I should comment and say that I'm glad that he felt the soul and passion that this movie gives. Someone who has no idea about musical theory and feels all those emotions speaks for himself and how good the movies actually is. I am very happy that Vince felt the same emotions that I felt when I watched this movie the first time.
Could you explain more of that to me i only watched their reaction of it so i didnt really get to experience the whole movie but i wanna know what its like
If you guys didn’t notice, the sheet music Fletcher gave Andrew at the end was the one from the lost folder. Meaning Fletcher took it from the chair once Neiman put it down, forcing him to play at the concert and become core player.
This is one of the two movies I’ve ever seen that captures the feeling that “this character fucking loves what he does” Pure magic. That ending is pure magic. Anybody who has ever performed or competed in anything at a higher level can relate. One of the greatest movies of all time. Vince recognized it himself as a former athlete.
@ The moment of magic for me is the solo. Damien Chazelle the director says the ending itself after that moment is a tragic one, that Andrew will likely pursue this unobtainable greatness and will eventually kill himself in his 30’s
I took a screenwriting class in college and we studied this script because of how flawless it is. Every scene, every piece of dialogue works for the film. No fat.
@ huh?? You’re not even gonna try to explain it. This is what’s wrong with half of these dogshit opinions on the internet. Andrew’s most famous quote from this movie. “I'd rather die drunk, broke at 34 and have people at a dinner table talk about me than live to be rich and sober at 90 and nobody remembered who I was.” If this obsession does lead to lose as the comment said. Andrew is clearly ok with that, because he is become one of the greats. Fletcher pushed him into become one of the greats. This is the best ending for Andrew and Fletcher. Both get what they want.
@@MonsieurDijon But he hasn't become one of the greats. He has only played into the toxicity, as indicated by the horror on his father's face that is there to clue in the audience in case they didn't catch on before they made a stupid dogshit like "derrrr... but he looks happy" comment. ;)
My favorite subtle detail of Fletcher's abuse is that he doesn't ever bother to pronounce Andrew's name correctly. Andrew says his name is Nayman, but Fletcher calls him Neeman. It's a simple dick move that immediately diminishes Andrew.
As a drummer myself this movie is spectacular, not only is this movie brilliantly written, inspiring, and cinematically shot beautifully. This movie is very personal.
@@theperfectmixxoh man I feel the same way, this movie brings tears to my eyes simply because of the passion Andrew has, it’s something many of us feel deep inside
The look on his dad's face during the final drum solo is so good, no smile, no hint of pride... just horror. For one short hug he thought he got his son back but in the end the abusive teacher came out on top, and he shows it grinning ear to ear.
Abusive teacher came out on top? This is not a contest between Andrew's father and Fletcher. It is a decision Andrew has to make about whether he wants to the warm comfort of an easy life, admiring other, greater men, or if he wants to face down the dragon and be great himself. That his abusive teacher is the one who brings it out of him is a source of pride for Fletcher and bonds the two of them, but Andrew came out the other side of the crucible.
The biggest trick this movie pulls off is making you think fletcher and Neiman are enemies. Really, they both want the same thing. The father, his girlfriend, a normal life, they are the antagonists.
This film is so bittersweet. Throughout the movie, there's always music playing, even if just soft piano or a bass line. It feels symbolic of Andrew's passion for drumming. But the audio cuts out towards the end of his solo, and all you hear is wind blowing. He became a technically brilliant drummer, but his passion is gone, replaced by a constant need for validation from Fletcher.
What? That's one interpretation, and probably one popular with the whole abuser/abused gaslighter/gaslit narrative type that is so popular on social media. I see very little to indicate his passion is gone, but I do see someone who saw the crucible for what it was, and he came through the other side. Andrew has gained the confidence in his own abilities to produce truly great music and be a great musician. Fletcher is not a good person for what he does - he is a monster, guided with terrible purpose. That does not change the fact that together he and Andrew made something beautiful - both were willing participants, and Andrew has earned the respect of a mentor who helped him hone his craft, just as Fletcher had done for many others to pass through the conservatory. Does the end justify the means? That is the question I find myself asking at the end of the film. As someone who has achieved success in my own life thanks to being really pushed by some difficult (and harsh) teachers along the way, I can say it does. No cymbals were thrown at my head, but I know without their unwavering standards and frank criticism which cut through my own ego, I would not have improved or achieved the things I did. I saw these same instructors coax along those who were in periods of doubting themselves and trying to build them up, but it was often fruitless. You either have the passion to pursue no matter the odds, or you do not.
My son started playing drums last year. He showed me this movie. I’ve played guitar for about 30 years, so we jam together all the time. But wow did I fall in love with this movie. Such an amazing film. We watch it together at least once a month. Great film reaction guys.
This film made me feel so many emotions anger, frustration, happiness, fear… it was a rollercoaster that I didn’t want to end! And I don’t like rollercoasters!
I spent a decade in the US Army in combat arms. Our drill sergeants were brutal, yet incredible, leaders. Fletcher is an example of leadership failure when that keep falls on the shoulders of an unregulated narcissist. I learned so much from Sergeant Ware, a hardcore, top leader in my tank unit many years ago. One day, he sat down with us and spoke at length about leadership and enablement. One phrase stuck with me for the rest of my life (paraphrasing): The very best leaders, lead with the heart first and foremost. You start from there. That provides your foundation. Everything else you do depends on that core context. Today, I wonder where that sergeant is in life and whether he realizes the impact he had on so many soldiers.
-one of the best movies of the last 10 years -if a movie whose subject u know nothing about can make u care about it by the end is perfection -I just love that this was a small film that everyone universally loves, traumatic…but still loves.
Awesome reaction! I think both of you would love la La land , it was made by the director of Whiplash and it honestly is my favorite movie of all time. No pressure though.
I went to college on a jazz scholarship, played at jazz festivals and conventions across the country, etc. I love this movie, it stresses me out like no other because there are grains of truth in it.
This is one of my favorite movies of all time, I totally relate with what the dude said at the end. It brings out so many emotions and tension for such a short movie with few characters.
When fletcher tried to screw up his final performance by giving him a song he never heard before, THAT was the final test. Because the next Charlie Parker would never be discouraged. Neiman proved that by not only being incredibly embarrassed by not knowing the song and leaving the stage, but turning back and giving it his all. Morally what fletcher is doing is wrong 100%, but i have to agree in that the next "Greats" must face severe challenges and only the strongest of them will make it as the greats. Incredible movie every time i watch it.
YES! Great Reaction guys. This was done as a short film which is on youtube. You can look it up as whiplash short film. It's cool to see it go from Short Film to an actual Cinematic Film. Goes to show you don't need special FX or CGI. Just good acting, script, lighting and camera work.
Nominated for 5 Oscars and won 3 (it won Supporting Actor for J. K. Simmons, Sound Mixing, and Film Editing, and lost Adapted Screenplay and Picture to THE IMITATION GAME and BIRDMAN respectively).
The movie couldn't be more literal in its message and yet there are still a lot of people who don't understand it. I'm just going to leave you with a quote from another great piece of art like Game of Thrones (up to season six): "If you think this has a happy ending, you weren't paying attention."
Yeah Vince you summed it up so well. Its exactly why this is one of my favorite movies. I admire how they show the terrible methods used by Fletcher but then you see the final result and makes you secind guess whether he's really wrong in using them if he produced the results. And watching someone overcome so many challenges and work so hard super resonates with me. Fantastic movie
I've got a drive-in about 10 miles from my house that is like a 50's drive-in. I think they've never changed, besides the projector and sound. They have a pool table in the projector/kitchen area so you can play pinball or pool while you wait for your burgers or pizza. The sound comes through your stereo but you can use those little speakers that go on your windows. And it's $10 for 2 movies! I love that place, especially when we're bored and can't think of anything else to do.
"Caravan" is on the 1962 album "Money Jungle" by Duke Ellington on piano, Charles Mingus on the double bassist, and Max Roach on the drums (it is on Apple Music). It's one of the best jazz albums I've heard in quite some time, with 15 tracks of pure bliss.
Wish I could give it two thumbs up. This is why I watch these reaction videos. Thank you. Experiencing this masterpiece again through your eyes was awesome.
To answer your question. Tape, bandages, calluses. Specifically the calluses gained from your specific instrument. For drummers it’s on the ridges of your finger knuckles from friction. For string instruments it’s commonly your finger tips from the metal/nylon strings. Calluses are your best friend.
Such a badass movie. Great reaction. Wanna hear something crazy? The writer was asked what his impression was of what happens to the protege after this. He legit said he probably becomes a drug addict and flames out. Because he’s been pushed beyond his limits and for that one second he reaches the pinnacle. As a result, it literally destroys him for anything else after. I don’t know that I agree with that…..but it’s an interesting take.
The way Shoshana was looking at Vince when he was talking about how much he loved the movie, you can tell they are the perfect couple for each other… or the perfect mix I guess you could say😂 absolutely amazing movie, also in my top 10, everything from the directing, cinematography, acting and writing, and also the use of *colour* in this movie is *perfect* the orange-ey red lighting for more “uplifting” scenes, and then the cool bluish green for the more “heart shattering” scenes. Just an outstanding, beautifully made film imho
Damn I actually stuck around for the post reaction commentary, Im glad you liked it bro it definitely resonates with most people on a certain level, yet differently for everyone that shit fye
@14:23 It's called a Standing Bass! The cello you sit with (it is at least 3x smaller) and you play it with a bow most of the time. of course, you can pluck all string instruments but, the 'Standing Bass' is mostly plucked in a Jazz band to give it that funky, grounded soul, when you want to play the 'Standing Bass' with a bow, you get the classical, rich deep tones of each string. The same goes for the Cello! (I was In Orchestra for 7/8 years and played the Violin.)
finallt a reaction where the greatness of the movie is actually appreciated.. most of the other reactors keeps talking about if fletcher was correct in his methods or not..and they forget that there is a monster being born in front of them.. this movie is just PERFECT
Terence Fletcher really is an accurate depiction of some music teachers. The music teacher at my school actually did hurl a chair at a student one time 😂
I remember when people were talking about how great this movie is. I was thinking..."It's a movie about drumming, how good can it be?". Then I watched it and immediately understood. A masterpiece!
Great reaction vid of a great, great film. Shosh: the left-hand reverse grip dates back to when marching drummers had to accomodate the drum being off to their side. My interpretation is that Fletcher truly believed Andrew didn't have "it" until that last scene. Then, they both knew.
There's so many things I could say about this movie and how great it is and how great this reaction was but one big thing that really stood out to me is how shoshana was so happy that it made it into Vince's top 10 on how much he liked it That just seemed so beautiful and like such a genuine lovely reaction
I had a piano teacher that was harsh like this. Not nearly as bad as the guy in this movie of course, but in the same ballpark. She would never have cursed at me, but would aggressively yell at me all the time and I teared up a few times (and I'm male). Not sure if it was healthy, but I won some low-level piano competitions as a child. She considered it her duty as a teacher to get her students as close to perfection as they were capable of.
This movie is really good; the script is so tight. I used to play the flute in high school marching band, but I never really wanted to be great at it; I just liked playing an instrument and the music. This movie showed me something I'm familiar with, but not.
It's top 10 worthy, without a doubt. W take. I'm a drummer; I never went through anything like this. I did spend some nights on living room floors, though.
Now watch Sound of Metal. It's also about a drummer but one who loses their hearing. It's amazingly acted and also speaks to having passion and then how it feels to lose it.
Yeah, this movie is something else since I seen it it's been a favorite. It gets everyone at the end a really good movie.💯 Awesome show there, Vince and Shoshanna. Keep up the terrific work. Also, Vince it got me at the end like that as well. Saw this one in the theater I tell yall something whole held their breath at the end then everyone clapped it's a good movie. Yall take care now💯
11:41 they do have drummer gloves, but you won't see any jazz musicians wearing them because even the best gloves will mess with your grip and feel... And with jazz drumming there are lots of switches and precision is super-important, and wearing gloves just makes it harder to be in-time and to handle the sticks with nuance. That's why you'll really only see rock/metal drummers wear gloves, because on top of banging the drums really hard, there also just aren't as many changes and switches, so the gloves aren't going to impact your feelings all that much... As for most genres of music the drums aren't used for its instrumentation as much as they are used to just carry the beat and rhythm.
If you wanna excel at something there is always a bigger sacrifice to be made, most people don't and are average at everything... Very glad that you loved the movie, would have been disappointed if you didn't :D
I guess I saw the ending way different than y'all did (not saying you two are wrong on your opinion). To me, the ending of this story is really sad, because Fletcher's teachings by using heavy abuse worked. His dad knows that he has lost his son at the end of the movie and Andrew is most likely going to die early in his life like Sean Casey (PTSD from Fletcher). Andrew thinks he is getting back at Fletcher by one-upping him at the end, but Fletcher is the one in control, he won.
I felt the EXACT same way as Vince. Rated it a 10 MASTERPIECE on ScreenClub. I can relate about the mindset of feeling like you can only be great if you are willing to sacrifice things and push yourself. Obviously there is a limit and sometimes its too far for people.
This film was made at an impressive speed of only 19 days, and director Damien Chazelle managed to complete filming on time despite suffering a concussion from a car crash midway through filming.
Whattt?! Just when I thought the movie couldn't get more impressive!!!
Nothing but facts 🤌
I’m probably wrong but I wonder if the car crash scene was inspired by that 😂
@@Batt-man all true
WTF that's crazy
I saw an interview with JK Simmons where he said the director wanted to talk to him about getting him up to speed so he could look like a jazz conductor, and Miles Teller could authentically fake the drumming. JK started laughing because he has degrees in music, and Miles plays drums in a band. According to JK, the director seriously didn't know this. If it's true, what a magical bit of casting.
Well Damien always wanted Miles for Andrew from the very beginning because he know of his rock drumming background. With JK, I don't think he knew at all.
Jk said something like I thought that’s why you hired me because of his experience conducting. But the director had no idea.
When the protagonist and the antagonist both win and lose in the end, and they're both happy about it. The sad thing about the ending is that Neiman will think that the abuse was worth it to become great and will be chasing the high of that performance forever. Fletcher will think his crazy techniques were vindicated.
Except the abuse was worth it, and his techniques were vindicated. Thats the kind of thing it takes to be the greatest and that was Andrew’s goal
@@MichaelMele-u5m The abuse succeeded in Neiman's particular case. But it's a logical fallacy to assume that it was necessary and the only way to become the greatest. What does it take- innate skill, tons of practice, teachers, tools, random chance? Fletcher says that if he had said "Good job" it'd have prevented Neiman from excelling. Maybe that's true. Or maybe Neiman, or someone else in his class would have thrived with encouragement rather than adversity. Who knows?
How many performers had the potential to be great if they'd simply practiced daily for 2 years but quit after the first verbal beatdown? Fletcher's way is like insisting the best way to create the next Olympic swimmer is to take a decently good swimmer and through them in the harbor till they make it across quicker and quicker. If they drown.. fuck them, they weren't meant to be it. It might work, and the results would be astonishing, but also you might get the same or better if you took 10 swimmers and made them train like a normal Olympian.
I think this film wants us to ask these questions. But I think it's also very clear that what Fletcher is doing is insane, and it's making Neiman into a worse person who pushes away everyone else.
If you think that, then I'm sorry to say you didn't understand the movie at all.
The face Neyman has at the very last scene is of regret. He regrets ever having stepped inside the conservatory. I like to believe that after the movie ends, Neyman goes back to engaging with his ex, forms a family and follows his dad's path.
The whole thing people think about ambition has nothing to do with the way he behaves, but rather with the regret of being forced to do something that he doesn't enjoy at all (music, drumming) just because he's good at it and wants to be better and more successfull than his cousin the football player.
I'm pretty sure the implication of the dinner scene was that Neiman would go on to die similarly to how he would have preferred to have died. Drunk, broke at 34 with a bunch of people talking about him at a dinner table. Maybe not broke but I'm pretty sure the implication is that he would go on to die way to young and broken at least. But people would definitely remember him.
@christiandasilva9435 the director said that neiman likely would have gone pro and died at the age of 35 from overdose and alone
I'm a subscriber who rarely comments but when Vince said he was about to cry, I felt like I should comment and say that I'm glad that he felt the soul and passion that this movie gives. Someone who has no idea about musical theory and feels all those emotions speaks for himself and how good the movies actually is. I am very happy that Vince felt the same emotions that I felt when I watched this movie the first time.
Could you explain more of that to me i only watched their reaction of it so i didnt really get to experience the whole movie but i wanna know what its like
If you guys didn’t notice, the sheet music Fletcher gave Andrew at the end was the one from the lost folder. Meaning Fletcher took it from the chair once Neiman put it down, forcing him to play at the concert and become core player.
I never noticed!!!
How do you know that?
Do you realize how many copies of the same folders and sheets of music there are in those settings? Clearly not.
This is just untrue.
Never heard this idea before, is this just a fan theory?
This is one of the two movies I’ve ever seen that captures the feeling that “this character fucking loves what he does” Pure magic. That ending is pure magic. Anybody who has ever performed or competed in anything at a higher level can relate. One of the greatest movies of all time. Vince recognized it himself as a former athlete.
What's the other movie?
@@Nicholas_is_my_nameagreed I need to know
I’ve heard that the ending was a bad ending showing that Andrew gave up everything in his life for fletcher’s approval.
@ The moment of magic for me is the solo. Damien Chazelle the director says the ending itself after that moment is a tragic one, that Andrew will likely pursue this unobtainable greatness and will eventually kill himself in his 30’s
The other movie is Uncut Gems, my boy Adam Sandler just loves gambling 🤓
I took a screenwriting class in college and we studied this script because of how flawless it is. Every scene, every piece of dialogue works for the film. No fat.
It’s such a tight script. I’m not a huge movie head but Whiplash changed my perception of what film can do. Immediately became my favorite
To me, ths ending is anything but happy. It just verifies how obsession can make you lose it. Masterpiece.
The horrified look on his dad's face sends chills down my spine. He realizes how dire the situation is.
It is a happy ending for andrew though. it is exactly what he wanted.
@MonsieurDijon But, see. It's not.
@ huh?? You’re not even gonna try to explain it. This is what’s wrong with half of these dogshit opinions on the internet.
Andrew’s most famous quote from this movie. “I'd rather die drunk, broke at 34 and have people at a dinner table talk about me than live to be rich and sober at 90 and nobody remembered who I was.”
If this obsession does lead to lose as the comment said. Andrew is clearly ok with that, because he is become one of the greats. Fletcher pushed him into become one of the greats. This is the best ending for Andrew and Fletcher. Both get what they want.
@@MonsieurDijon But he hasn't become one of the greats. He has only played into the toxicity, as indicated by the horror on his father's face that is there to clue in the audience in case they didn't catch on before they made a stupid dogshit like "derrrr... but he looks happy" comment. ;)
One of my top 5 films. Outstanding cinematography and acting
I always tear up when the dad is seen watching by the window
34:48 You're exactly right. Fletcher won. His abusive methods got results but at a cost, and Andrew's dad realizes it too.
My favorite subtle detail of Fletcher's abuse is that he doesn't ever bother to pronounce Andrew's name correctly. Andrew says his name is Nayman, but Fletcher calls him Neeman. It's a simple dick move that immediately diminishes Andrew.
So glad someone else noticed this
Thank you, I never noticed that before.
and when they meet at the club, he calls him Andrew, as if he respected him now
when you're a good film director, even a drummer movie is incredible
Drums are the coolest. So it’s not surprising
As a drummer myself this movie is spectacular, not only is this movie brilliantly written, inspiring, and cinematically shot beautifully. This movie is very personal.
Agreed. I (Vince) truly felt Andrew's passion for wanting to be great.
@@theperfectmixxoh man I feel the same way, this movie brings tears to my eyes simply because of the passion Andrew has, it’s something many of us feel deep inside
The look on his dad's face during the final drum solo is so good, no smile, no hint of pride... just horror. For one short hug he thought he got his son back but in the end the abusive teacher came out on top, and he shows it grinning ear to ear.
Abusive teacher came out on top? This is not a contest between Andrew's father and Fletcher. It is a decision Andrew has to make about whether he wants to the warm comfort of an easy life, admiring other, greater men, or if he wants to face down the dragon and be great himself. That his abusive teacher is the one who brings it out of him is a source of pride for Fletcher and bonds the two of them, but Andrew came out the other side of the crucible.
The biggest trick this movie pulls off is making you think fletcher and Neiman are enemies. Really, they both want the same thing. The father, his girlfriend, a normal life, they are the antagonists.
This film is so bittersweet. Throughout the movie, there's always music playing, even if just soft piano or a bass line. It feels symbolic of Andrew's passion for drumming. But the audio cuts out towards the end of his solo, and all you hear is wind blowing. He became a technically brilliant drummer, but his passion is gone, replaced by a constant need for validation from Fletcher.
What? That's one interpretation, and probably one popular with the whole abuser/abused gaslighter/gaslit narrative type that is so popular on social media. I see very little to indicate his passion is gone, but I do see someone who saw the crucible for what it was, and he came through the other side. Andrew has gained the confidence in his own abilities to produce truly great music and be a great musician.
Fletcher is not a good person for what he does - he is a monster, guided with terrible purpose. That does not change the fact that together he and Andrew made something beautiful - both were willing participants, and Andrew has earned the respect of a mentor who helped him hone his craft, just as Fletcher had done for many others to pass through the conservatory.
Does the end justify the means? That is the question I find myself asking at the end of the film. As someone who has achieved success in my own life thanks to being really pushed by some difficult (and harsh) teachers along the way, I can say it does. No cymbals were thrown at my head, but I know without their unwavering standards and frank criticism which cut through my own ego, I would not have improved or achieved the things I did. I saw these same instructors coax along those who were in periods of doubting themselves and trying to build them up, but it was often fruitless. You either have the passion to pursue no matter the odds, or you do not.
Movie so good they had to watch it twice!
My son started playing drums last year. He showed me this movie. I’ve played guitar for about 30 years, so we jam together all the time. But wow did I fall in love with this movie. Such an amazing film. We watch it together at least once a month. Great film reaction guys.
This film made me feel so many emotions anger, frustration, happiness, fear… it was a rollercoaster that I didn’t want to end! And I don’t like rollercoasters!
I spent a decade in the US Army in combat arms. Our drill sergeants were brutal, yet incredible, leaders. Fletcher is an example of leadership failure when that keep falls on the shoulders of an unregulated narcissist.
I learned so much from Sergeant Ware, a hardcore, top leader in my tank unit many years ago. One day, he sat down with us and spoke at length about leadership and enablement. One phrase stuck with me for the rest of my life (paraphrasing): The very best leaders, lead with the heart first and foremost. You start from there. That provides your foundation. Everything else you do depends on that core context.
Today, I wonder where that sergeant is in life and whether he realizes the impact he had on so many soldiers.
"Were you edging, or were you gooning, Neiman?"
Were u huaking or Tuahing
LMAO
-one of the best movies of the last 10 years
-if a movie whose subject u know nothing about can make u care about it by the end is perfection
-I just love that this was a small film that everyone universally loves, traumatic…but still loves.
Awesome reaction! I think both of you would love la La land , it was made by the director of Whiplash and it honestly is my favorite movie of all time. No pressure though.
Felt exactly the same Vince, never related to a film so much in my life
Vince
Vince put it perfectly, “ he did him dirty….” Love this film!😆🤘
His dad is “Dr Sam Owens” in Stranger Things which I didn’t realize until watching w you guys.
I went to college on a jazz scholarship, played at jazz festivals and conventions across the country, etc. I love this movie, it stresses me out like no other because there are grains of truth in it.
i really wanna see you reacting to "everything everywhere all at once" it is such a great movie
Great pick
This is one of my favorite movies of all time, I totally relate with what the dude said at the end. It brings out so many emotions and tension for such a short movie with few characters.
When fletcher tried to screw up his final performance by giving him a song he never heard before, THAT was the final test. Because the next Charlie Parker would never be discouraged. Neiman proved that by not only being incredibly embarrassed by not knowing the song and leaving the stage, but turning back and giving it his all. Morally what fletcher is doing is wrong 100%, but i have to agree in that the next "Greats" must face severe challenges and only the strongest of them will make it as the greats. Incredible movie every time i watch it.
YES! Great Reaction guys. This was done as a short film which is on youtube. You can look it up as whiplash short film. It's cool to see it go from Short Film to an actual Cinematic Film. Goes to show you don't need special FX or CGI. Just good acting, script, lighting and camera work.
Nominated for 5 Oscars and won 3 (it won Supporting Actor for J. K. Simmons, Sound Mixing, and Film Editing, and lost Adapted Screenplay and Picture to THE IMITATION GAME and BIRDMAN respectively).
0:46 It's never too late. My oldest ukulele student is 79 :3. Plus hitting things with sticks is fun lmao.
So great to feel passion make you cry 😭😭🤘
Heavily underrated movie! That instructor made me nervous and I won’t even there 😂
The movie couldn't be more literal in its message and yet there are still a lot of people who don't understand it. I'm just going to leave you with a quote from another great piece of art like Game of Thrones (up to season six): "If you think this has a happy ending, you weren't paying attention."
Your reaction is the reason I watch reaction videos. Love it 👏🏾👏🏾
Yeah Vince you summed it up so well. Its exactly why this is one of my favorite movies. I admire how they show the terrible methods used by Fletcher but then you see the final result and makes you secind guess whether he's really wrong in using them if he produced the results. And watching someone overcome so many challenges and work so hard super resonates with me. Fantastic movie
That was not the point. Andrew is doomed.
I've got a drive-in about 10 miles from my house that is like a 50's drive-in. I think they've never changed, besides the projector and sound. They have a pool table in the projector/kitchen area so you can play pinball or pool while you wait for your burgers or pizza. The sound comes through your stereo but you can use those little speakers that go on your windows. And it's $10 for 2 movies! I love that place, especially when we're bored and can't think of anything else to do.
"Caravan" is on the 1962 album "Money Jungle" by Duke Ellington on piano, Charles Mingus on the double bassist, and Max Roach on the drums (it is on Apple Music). It's one of the best jazz albums I've heard in quite some time, with 15 tracks of pure bliss.
Wish I could give it two thumbs up. This is why I watch these reaction videos. Thank you. Experiencing this masterpiece again through your eyes was awesome.
Wow! Loved that he loved it that much
I HUNT good reactions for this movie and i was definitely waiting for you guys to watch it xD
To answer your question. Tape, bandages, calluses. Specifically the calluses gained from your specific instrument. For drummers it’s on the ridges of your finger knuckles from friction. For string instruments it’s commonly your finger tips from the metal/nylon strings. Calluses are your best friend.
You may be the only ones on UA-cam that "got" this GREAT film. The complexity behind the strive for greatness.
Will never tire of this film. Can I suggest Black Swan (2010)?
Welcome to the fold, Vince. You’re assessment was correct. This is one of the best films of all time.
The fact that people think it’s a happy ending is interesting.
It’s happy for Andrew
Such a badass movie. Great reaction.
Wanna hear something crazy? The writer was asked what his impression was of what happens to the protege after this. He legit said he probably becomes a drug addict and flames out. Because he’s been pushed beyond his limits and for that one second he reaches the pinnacle. As a result, it literally destroys him for anything else after.
I don’t know that I agree with that…..but it’s an interesting take.
The way Shoshana was looking at Vince when he was talking about how much he loved the movie, you can tell they are the perfect couple for each other… or the perfect mix I guess you could say😂 absolutely amazing movie, also in my top 10, everything from the directing, cinematography, acting and writing, and also the use of *colour* in this movie is *perfect* the orange-ey red lighting for more “uplifting” scenes, and then the cool bluish green for the more “heart shattering” scenes. Just an outstanding, beautifully made film imho
Y’all have to watch La La land next
Damn I actually stuck around for the post reaction commentary, Im glad you liked it bro it definitely resonates with most people on a certain level, yet differently for everyone that shit fye
Also whats that at the end? Whats endgame I thought yall watched that already
@@Cardioligistthey recorded it back then
One of the greatest movies ever made, and probably in my top three with Nightcrawler and Interstellar. I LOVE this movie.
@14:23 It's called a Standing Bass! The cello you sit with (it is at least 3x smaller) and you play it with a bow most of the time. of course, you can pluck all string instruments but, the 'Standing Bass' is mostly plucked in a Jazz band to give it that funky, grounded soul, when you want to play the 'Standing Bass' with a bow, you get the classical, rich deep tones of each string. The same goes for the Cello! (I was In Orchestra for 7/8 years and played the Violin.)
I’m sure it’s more commonly known as a double bass :)
36:59 “do I look like a double fucking rainbow to you”
Whiplash is in my top 5 movies of all time across all languages
finallt a reaction where the greatness of the movie is actually appreciated.. most of the other reactors keeps talking about if fletcher was correct in his methods or not..and they forget that there is a monster being born in front of them.. this movie is just PERFECT
I love the last song. The drummer was saying" your going to play at my tempo/my pace." Over exaggerated and embellished. Yes. Great lesson. Also, yes.
Terence Fletcher really is an accurate depiction of some music teachers. The music teacher at my school actually did hurl a chair at a student one time 😂
I remember when people were talking about how great this movie is. I was thinking..."It's a movie about drumming, how good can it be?". Then I watched it and immediately understood. A masterpiece!
Top 10 for me as well! No other movie captures the passion one can have for a hobby and making it in the world quite like this movie
Miles Teller already knew how to play drums and J K Simmons studied being a conductor befor he became an actor
Great reaction vid of a great, great film. Shosh: the left-hand reverse grip dates back to when marching drummers had to accomodate the drum being off to their side. My interpretation is that Fletcher truly believed Andrew didn't have "it" until that last scene. Then, they both knew.
Greatness always has a price.
There's so many things I could say about this movie and how great it is and how great this reaction was but one big thing that really stood out to me is how shoshana was so happy that it made it into Vince's top 10 on how much he liked it
That just seemed so beautiful and like such a genuine lovely reaction
“I think you need to have a lot of rhythm” may be the most “no shit Sherlock” thing I’ve ever heard 😂
Top 10 for my list for sure also Vince. I know this is a late reaction but hey this just made my night. Y’all be safe god bless
I had a piano teacher that was harsh like this. Not nearly as bad as the guy in this movie of course, but in the same ballpark. She would never have cursed at me, but would aggressively yell at me all the time and I teared up a few times (and I'm male). Not sure if it was healthy, but I won some low-level piano competitions as a child. She considered it her duty as a teacher to get her students as close to perfection as they were capable of.
I am right there with Vince, another one about passion and sports that you would be surprised on is Borg vs McEnroe! Super slept on
This movie is really good; the script is so tight. I used to play the flute in high school marching band, but I never really wanted to be great at it; I just liked playing an instrument and the music. This movie showed me something I'm familiar with, but not.
It's top 10 worthy, without a doubt. W take. I'm a drummer; I never went through anything like this. I did spend some nights on living room floors, though.
Beat ending ever😊 check out War Dogs
Now watch Sound of Metal. It's also about a drummer but one who loses their hearing. It's amazingly acted and also speaks to having passion and then how it feels to lose it.
As a drummer this movie gives me so much ptsd 😂
What’s your genre?
30:40 sick save brother . Professional boyfriend right here lmao
Dude this is college band. Not high school. This is so real.
18:10 that moment will live in my head rent free lol
When I seen this movie. I was like what the hell is going on? This man is crazy
Preachhhh. Not sure if y’all have seen it yet but y’all definitely need to do La La Land. Definitely some good similarities between the films
So intense, so concentrated. Amazing film.
love this film and loved your reaction
17:16 The dad is that genuinely good professor from stranger things
Yeah, this movie is something else since I seen it it's been a favorite. It gets everyone at the end a really good movie.💯 Awesome show there, Vince and Shoshanna. Keep up the terrific work. Also, Vince it got me at the end like that as well. Saw this one in the theater I tell yall something whole held their breath at the end then everyone clapped it's a good movie. Yall take care now💯
my man gets it!
This is honestly a top 10 movie of all time
Vince definitely had a hardass coach at one point in life lmao
I love you guys!!
11:41 they do have drummer gloves, but you won't see any jazz musicians wearing them because even the best gloves will mess with your grip and feel... And with jazz drumming there are lots of switches and precision is super-important, and wearing gloves just makes it harder to be in-time and to handle the sticks with nuance.
That's why you'll really only see rock/metal drummers wear gloves, because on top of banging the drums really hard, there also just aren't as many changes and switches, so the gloves aren't going to impact your feelings all that much... As for most genres of music the drums aren't used for its instrumentation as much as they are used to just carry the beat and rhythm.
30:25 that was precious
If you wanna excel at something there is always a bigger sacrifice to be made, most people don't and are average at everything...
Very glad that you loved the movie, would have been disappointed if you didn't :D
It’s up there at the top of my list too.
when the dad peeps through the curtain at the end, and is astounded by the sheer talent of his son is my favourite part.
I guess I saw the ending way different than y'all did (not saying you two are wrong on your opinion). To me, the ending of this story is really sad, because Fletcher's teachings by using heavy abuse worked. His dad knows that he has lost his son at the end of the movie and Andrew is most likely going to die early in his life like Sean Casey (PTSD from Fletcher). Andrew thinks he is getting back at Fletcher by one-upping him at the end, but Fletcher is the one in control, he won.
You guys should react to Inglorious Bastards. I'd love to see Shoshana's reaction
I felt the EXACT same way as Vince. Rated it a 10 MASTERPIECE on ScreenClub. I can relate about the mindset of feeling like you can only be great if you are willing to sacrifice things and push yourself. Obviously there is a limit and sometimes its too far for people.
My dad found it so amusing how cruel this guy was, now so do I 😂.
Here goes my theory: this mate d1es when he falls (at 6:13), and the rest of the movie is his journey through purgatory.
Helluva Virgil. 😂
8:15 that laugh
I love that hes the farmers guy
j.k simmons won an oscar for this role, he was so perfectly scary