There are no words. The fact he sits in court now - and gets to hear himself brag, knowing he would be in court - adds salt to everyone’s wounds. Mind blowing there are people on this planet like him.
@@I_amTurok Sent this comment to the FBI tip database for potential terrorist activity. I also tracked your old comments that are worrisome. Good luck.
My brother has similar mental health issues, and I had administrators that were the same, there are obvious behaviors that go unnoticed and nobody stops them. They do like too much planning, I don't know how to best explain it, they organize destruction extremely well. The only thing I can think of to explain it is the scene in American Pyscho when he covers everything in plastic and puts on a raincoat before chopping up Jared Leto, they organize like that, and its honestly horrifying when you are the only one that notices their plans.
@@megatherion2695 it's always kids like these , stuck, alone and feeling afraid by there government , or forced out by others , wild how that kid who was just chilling at Macca's happy with his friend next day makes this and following day kills 17 people , how does a kid with good, caring parents lose himself and hurt others ? For attention and what was he Tryna bring attention to? I will never understand it but I would never forgive him if I was a victims parent ,cause I gotta live with losing everything but if I was a victim i probably would forgive him , cause I understood what it was like to be in your head media playing watching videos conspiracies all day and feeling alone , I thought about hurting myself sometimes there were people I did wanna hurt but I could not live with myself even after death thinking I took something away from someone , Ive been held down with a brick against my head and someone saying "they will kill me and smash my head in" ive been assualted , hit with objects pissed on and beat someone so bad I regretted it but I could never ever take a life so I think we should be open to what this kid went through , I don't mean he should be let go if he deserves to die by law kill him but understand let him tell his story before he dies everyone is listening to victims but how are we to stop more violence if we don't listen , this is a shooter who didn't kill himself , so we have something to learn from so after this case if he is sent to death I hope he gets to write what's on his mind and why he lead this life and the drastic choices he made
It could also be that they're eating unhealthily or just have bad genetics. I'm 32 and I've aged like a champ. Also, recent studies have shown that, on average, vegans live 9 years longer than omnivores. My guess is that the parents' whose faces appear to have aged in such a short amount of time might need to consider the Mediterranean diet.
This is unfathomable and yet here we are. The fact that this is a trend in the US and that some people aspire to be “the next school shooter” shows how deeply messed up our society has become.
The warning signs and mental health of people is overlooked and not addressed. Sadly until mental health therapy and services are addressed like the true massive issue it is this will continue to happen.
@@calebcool2171 Mass shootings in the US account for 73% of all 139 incidents occurring in developed countries between 1998 to 2019. During this time, 62% of all 1,318 fatalities from the attacks also happened in the states. What youve said makes no sense you dweeb 🤣
That’s true, He deserves to be forgotten. He’s a worthless human that caused so much suffering toward young kids just trying to grow up. I hope he burns in hell.
That’s a main reason I don’t agree with the death penalty. If he were executed, he’d get a platform for his last words, which would be recorded. Future generations might wonder, who WAS this mysterious, disturbed guy? As it is, he’s rotting away quietly on his own and nobody but his victims’ families gives a toss about him. That’s how it should be.
It's hilarious how he's saying he shooting people because he lives a lonely secluded life an he's sick of being told what to do. Now he's alone in a cell all day an his life is completely out of his control
Yes, he is very contradicting…he also stated that he hates people and yet wants everyone to know him. Hmm, if you hate people you would prefer to be alone and ignored.
And thy gave him court hairen what in the sam heavens is this I'd throw him right in jail without any hairen this is so absurd these families lost their babies doesn't that matters he should've been the one in an coffen 10ft down Knott these. Babies my sympathy for all parents 😢💫🙏🏾💫🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊
@@2112jp he hates people because they hurt him call him names control him and not give the love and attention he is seeking so retaliation is the shooting to hurt those who hurt him directly or indirectly
Unstable can’t make a complex plan , he knew exactly what to how to do and wanted love from a woman and not a blowup doll , he is not crazy, he is criminal
The fact he was allowed to have guns after the things that the cops already knew about him discuss me to a point that I can't even comprehend how did nobody notice this kid was going to do something weird
He’s getting exactly what he wanted. If he just gets life without parole he wins. We have to start holding people accountable these attention seekers. I hope the jury delivers Justice
@@Orlish4B you’re right sometimes when you hear somebody say these horrible things right before they commit this sadistic act it makes you immediately want the worst thing possible for them. I imagine that life without parole does suck….but it does make me made when he will receive free health care, free education, a private cell, and the citizens of Florida/US will pay for it all. It would be hard for me to stand in front of a court and God and say “give this man death” it would weigh on me forever but this guy is evil. It’s a sad situation our country is sick right now.
@@Orlish4B justice would be executing this moron and not wasting millions of tax payer dollars going through this sentencing trial. Why do people think taxpayers should pay for something like that to rot in prison for the next 70 years?
The parents of the victims should be the ones to decide his punishment. Let them all come together and decide what they agree is the correct outcome for themselves. Absolutely devastating what has happened to their lives now
That second video, his “manifesto” or whatever you call that disgusting piece of footage, was totally void of any emotion. It’s almost like he was saying whatever he thought would make him sound like the ultimate bada$$ and make his evil acts infamous. What a sorry excuse for a human being. Honestly, he is despicable and deserves no mercy as he spared none for any of the victims that day. He is in God’s hands now.
Yeah this little douchebag makes me sick. I agree with you that this one was def scripted. The line that really stood out to me was where he was talking about power...he said "with the power of my ar 15"....that's for sure because he is a weakling with no power of his own. He had to use a gun to slaughter innocent people to try to make himself out to be powerful... wrong!!!
I’m one of the columbine shooting survivors in 1999. This really brings back that anguish and grief I had over school mates I knew who got shot….idk what it is about wanting to kill school kids…I dread this isn’t the last one we’ll see in our lifetime. Too many already since my Highschool 🤦♂️
I still think about Columbine...I feel like that was the start of all these high school shootings. God bless you, I can't even imagine what that day was like for you 🙏
I’m sorry you had to go through something like that man. I still think about that day. I’m 35 years old now - probably close to your age too. I grew up in northern Illinois. It was all anyone talked about for months. I hope as time has passed you have healed and you’re thriving. Just wanted you to know I support you - and others too.
And the fact that they have to relive this nightmare while he sits there and doodles and covers his ears really like a little, pathetic child really makes me angry
@@jessicapreston9808 right, I hate that they are even giving him this much fame and attention this be exactly what they want, to hear parents crying etc. he thought this stuff through before he did it he should be somewhere hanging upside down or something 🤷🏽♂️
@@I_amTurok Well that's no longer an option- he either rots in jail for the rest of his life or he gets the death penalty. His fate lies with the jury's decision.
What the media need to realize is that after any shooting posting the photo of the face of the shooter over and over again on the news doesnt help anyone if the shooter has already been caught. It only motivates the next shooter just like it motivated cruz which you can hear him say in his video.
yes. the mistakes are being made again and again. these losers love the attention they are gettin from the media. and it only motivates another weirdo to do it once more.
Yes, its law to be made public. But 20 years ago we did not have social media. Only the local news would show this in florida. Now the entire world has access to this. Mass shooters know this and do it to become famous....whether they survive or get killed during shooting.
reality is were all evil in some ways, we judge others not realizing that we might just be as monsterous or even greater than him. Everyone is ignorant of something
It’s not evil. This is what happens when a person with extremely low intelligence, horrible social conditioning, years of bullying and belittling by people he looked up to (adults in his life and peers at school), lack of emotions and mental illness (psychopathy and narcissism) all blend together in a teenager who isn’t mature enough yet to understand there own actions due to the things I mentioned earlier. Evil is a cop out. These type of people will continue to occur because of the things I mentioned. The only one of those things we can’t prevent completely is the mental illness. But we can identify it early in a child’s life and hopefully prevent this type of thing from happening by counseling and medication and supervision. If that isn’t working then committing them to an institutional hospital should be done. But the first line of defense against this is preventing people who aren’t fit to have children from having them. Preventing bullying and harassment in school. Finding ways to teach children without high intelligence so that they don’t feel left out and ostracized. Making sure kids that are socially awkward aren’t picked on and abused at home by siblings or parents. Sorry about the rant. Its just that watching these videos of him, it’s just so obvious what’s going on but people just don’t seem to see it for some reason.
Question everything you hear & see... Take note of all the components of this case coming to light (ie adoption agency involved in basically child trafficking, a dr who did not receive a letter addressed to him & who points out that Cross Creek's well known protocol doesn't match up re: letter & even timing of when letter was SUPPOSEDLY written... In other words, take note of the trees, but don't neglect to see the forrest...
Maybe not. Should he be held responsible for his actions when he is obviously in a bad mind-state? Is he possessed by some kind of being or power? What influenced him to buy a gun and kill innocent people with it? Most Americans don't wake up one day and decide to murder children. Is he mentally ill? Radicalized? Influenced by the internet? The absurd thing to me is that he is an American citizen. Educated and raised similar to the rest of us. I think there is a move to radicalize individuals in America to take on these homicidal perspectives. Violence seems to be normalized to this generation.
@@topsone3428 i’m not a psychiatrist, but i know a people with mental illness that do great things with their life, not pick up an ar-15 and shoot people. i’m sorry but i will never sympathise with people that commit such murders
@@tookitogo What's the sense in covering anything? He's already witnessed the bloodshed and devastation first hand! To him it should be like rewatching a sick movie all over again.
@@kyleftw1679 Yet the people he killed had to go through with it. He should have been handcuffed with his hands behind him. He shouldn't get the privilege to block his ears
I mean as far as intimidating goes a mass child murderer might be up there, now could I take him in a fight sure but still very intimidating he took many lives without any guilt
@Frog Glen yes, this man is straight cringe. and i try to say cringe sparing, and this was that. he said he did it so they’ll see him on the news, so they’ll know his name… mans just wanted attention. he turned into the poster boy on the internet for fake crazy on the video “what pretending to be crazy looks like” too. this man is a walking L.
@@chasebaverstock4123 Speak for yourself there, bud. There is nothing intimidating about gunning down kids. My only hope is he's Big Bubba's Human Fleshlight real soon.
This is terrifying. As a mom of three boys in school, this is one of my biggest fears. It is also one my boys fears too. It is hard enough for kids to go to school with all the pressure of difficult homework let alone worrying about a school shooter. Why do these people take it out on innocent kids😣
@@SavedSnake teaching your kids about death and evil everyday isn't going to help them when they get shot in the back running its only going to damage their minds into thinking EVERYONE is evil including you and their father
It’s really rare to be involved in a school shooting & even rarer to get killed. There’s no need to put that fear on children. & if your that scared then buy your kids a bulletproof backpack which would really help to shield their body or back as they run. But like I said, it’s really rare. I have more of a fear of getting into a car accident with my son.
They can be evil to and no kids start it to casting others out and people even parent kids teachers will to it and insult you that’s why it happens a lot but it will never end people talk out there ass to much and it’s sad cause kids like that don’t ever get the help and are bullied and abused and tormented by everyone around them so you can’t blame no one but your selfs and that’s fax
94% of ma les are responsible for the vi olent cri me rate. And ppl still don’t want to raise their kids right & teach them vio lence / arrogance. He’s 100% responsible and empty pos coward… You sound like an empathetic person. But humans are the only monsters here… Sick
Its horrific that he was so happy and cocky about all this, yet he blames it on society this and that theres no reason to spread such deep and terrible pain to so many just because u feel like it🥺
@@anubis7589 you are so sick and twisted wtf I don’t even want to know what u think about 9/11 this monster killed random just because a girl denied him he was a stalker and a coward!!!!
my stomach also sank at him imitating the gun shots with a silly "pew pew pew" noise in such a nonchalant way. I can't even describe the anger I felt.. it's literally nauseating.
that's what pisses me off most. I know it'll still happen, but that is exactly what motivates these lonely people- attention. They know if they commit a horrendous crime then they will finally have people pay attention to them, and seeing it happen with other school shooters just confirms to them that they will be "famous" if they follow their footsteps. It's absolutely unfathomable.
The only problem with that, is that they have consciences, and would probably have some major PTSD, and there are likely those among this group, that wouldn’t retaliate, as a means of effecting justice. It’s the state’s responsibility.
No way I could have stayed in my seat after hearing this especially if this was my child 😡 My rage would have took over but I’d probably done been thrown out long before this if I’m being honest 😰 God give all these parents strength to endure all this pain and headache to get through this trail and please let justice be served according to your will 🙏🙏😇❤️
What about HIS parents, where were they, why did he turn out so bad? I always have to look at both parties, and he sounds VERY troubled, almost as if he's demon oppressed.
@@miraclemitchell7231 Makes sense. I know it's not an excuse whatsoever but I can imagine loosing your parents at a young age. You would truly feel lost in this world, I know I would. Yeah he was very very troubled. And the problem is there's signs of these troubled young people and if someone does speak up it's like they're ignored cause in reality the law can't do anything until someone dies and a crime is committed. All that hate he feels is suppressed hurt and pain, it's sad that it get's to that point where they just go all out. Like why did no one step in, like an extended family member or something. Always so many questions after the fact isn't there. :(
@@JaneCooper190072 his birth mom was a drugged criminal, she was arrested for cocaine and crack while pregnant with him….. he got adopted by an old couple and both passed away
long story short. He was adopted. His birth mom gave him up because she was a drug addict. His adoptive mother tried to help him. But she was a push over.. She eventually died before the shooting happend :( What a sick kid.. THERE WAS SIGNS! Listen to the podcast “murder in america” they just covered this episode and they explain his whole life. I hope he rots in hell.
A message to all you people that think your life is meaning less. You re life is not meaning less and everything isnt what it seems. Life is hard and people say mean things to others, thus: it is up to you to change your so called meaning less life and bring it to fruition. We have the power to change the outcome of our depression and anger but it all starts with changing our attitude and our way of thinking. Dont be like this guy. Youre are better and you matter.
@@macbeth642 No father figure being present is the issue. The community attempts to "dismantle the nuclear family" is backed up by government subsidies that were knowingly designed to influence their political preference and socioeconomic status.
@@macbeth642 There is probably a big genetic factor too. The environment they evolved in, separated from the rest of us for over 40,000 years, had no harsh winters (no need to plan ahead) and was not particularly difficult to survive in, so there was no evolutionary pressure against idleness, low impulse control, or a lack of intelligence.
If you watched the arrest video when he's on the ground attempting to convince the cops he don't know what happened, what he just did or where he was. Like he just snapped out of hypnosis. Demons in my hrad man!. He's a total psychopath and a pathetic one too boot. How weren't these videos found before this horrible tragedy?
@@deviantlord142 And also, even if uploaded... Does anyone here know how big the internet is!? I don't have the answer myself, but I'm pretty sure it's too big to expect law enforcement, or parents, to have control of everything that ends up there. And you also have some pretty dark places online too, where talking about murder won't necessarily get you reported anywhere. Remember, the internet is full of bad people. I'm not talking about people being assholes. I'm talking about genuinely bad people.
Had lots of times of Lone Wolf life. Also had a lot of people turn on me. What did it do? Made me stronger and understand they were the weak ones. I moved on, lived my life and tried to live it right. We can point the finger at them and attack them or we can put the finger in our pocket, overcome and move forth. Let Gods hand guide you...... Poor soul allowed the other hand to guide him....
Agreed. He even admitted to police that he wanted to be an Army Ranger but that he failed the ASVAB. I have to tell you as a veteran, the army has the lowest standards for passing the ASVAB (you need at least a 31 out of 99), and to get a decent job you really need a 50+. If he couldn't score at least a 31 then I agree with him and you that he is objectively unintelligent.
Makes me sick to my stomach that this is exactly what he wanted. Makes me question if I want to continue watching this case... :( I may explore other ways to stand with and support the families.
I don't know how him personally, but I have a feeling he would rather not be in court, facing a possible execution. And when he's alone in his cell... I have a feeling he would rather be on the outside. I don't think he's in a happy place. If I'm not mistaken, he also expressed in one of his letters a hope that he will one day see freedom again. (He knows this won't be likely, but facing a life sentence can be difficult. It can take a while to accept it and adapt.)
You watch for the same reason everyone else does; Morbid curiosity that's all. The same year this happened, about 19,000 other people were murdered with firearms. Where's everyone's "condolences" and "Heartbreak" for them? And "Other ways"? Watching the trial on TV and UA-cam is not supporting or "standing with" them at all.
Yeah its absolutely appalling that he's sitting there in safety, basically taunting the victim's families with the videos he made 4 years ago and saying everyone will know his name. He got exactly what he wanted, but the media can't not cover it. His videos and story are going viral because of the media. SMH.
@@ronnie_5150 you know there is a quote that i think you would like " one death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic" -stalin. and bro, guess how many people were murdered by firearms in my country?
I have no words for this act. All I hope is that justice is served and this man faces the death penalty for what he did to these innocent children trying to get an education.
I still don’t understand why death penalty is even in question. They have all the proof they need. He strategically planned this, shot up the school, bragged about it, and he even tried attacking a deputy-on-duty. He took so many innocent lives and he’s not going to change. Why even fight for life at this point.
Wow, that is really disturbing. This is an incredibly unfortunate crossroad between misinformation, societal and peer pressure, access to weapons of heavy destruction, and what most likely seems to be guidance from other bad influences. It’s really sad and scary
Wow, this kid needed help a long time ago. He needed something to be proud of and work towards. The human mind can enter some very dark places if we don’t have something to look forward to....something to work on then all hope is lost. Just something as simple as working up a sweat everyday could do so much good...especially for young men.
Well when they start paying a livable wage or I don't have to be in debt for life to go to school you let us know because until then you might as well skip all the nonsense and go straight to being homeless.
The insecurity and detachment stems from him thinking he deserves to be praised. He's a narcissist and not reeeaally a sociopath because he's so insecure about his life's achievements so far at such a young age. A dangerous person who expects everything done for them until they snap when they find out how useless they are when they hide instead of being a responsible member of society.
@@Darth_Bateman Yeah well my goal is to not let shooters keep doing what they are doing. My goal is for there to be less reason, motivation or ease for them to act in such a way. And I really don't think half of America will realize that they are in error. Look at our economy, hardly any Dems saying well Trump was better looks like we made a mistake. They won't learn as they are not discerning reasonable people. They are perfectly described as sheep to the media narrative.
You know nothing about him lol. This was a failure on all sides. Kid had a hard ass life. No excuses for what hes done either way. But it really is a shame that literally one person reaching out to him could have made a world of difference. Just hearing his voice i can imagine he was immensely bullied, on top of losing his entire family. I mean hes really been through it. Its hard to see value in life when you, and everyone around you, is telling you that your own life is worthless. When everything and everyone important to you continues to disappear. Im not defending his actions by any means. But it really all is just one big shame.
He gloats at all the attention he’s getting. This is what he dreamed of. However when they played the recordings from the shootings he cowardly put his fingers in his ears.
I graduated from MSD and that courtyard has so many memories. We had so many lunches there and if you look back at the history of MSD there has been so much tragedy at that school that this just blew our minds.
That's exactly it! I'm hurting so I want you to hurt also. He's targeting kids he has no connection with, there not the same ones who rejected him and gave him a hard time a few years previous. Basically this massacre is a big up yours to the community that he thinks rejected him.
yes exactly you can draw parallels to kurt cobain even. He hated the world but was man enough to just kill himself. And leave behind his art... what a loser.
The way to stop these shootings are to make harsher punishments and also not publicizing the shooter. As shown in these clips are what he wanted was fame
you think harsher punishments will stop someone who is willing to commit a mass shooting? He stepped into that school knowing there was a very good chance that it was his last day alive.
I remember when he was being apprehended and interrogated. He said it was a demon/the devil. These confessions don't say the same. So much for "playing crazy".
The death penalty is one of those parts of society that we have to acknowledge is sometimes necessary. The willingness to kill humans is a trait that needs to be exterminated, not kept in a cage for the rest of it's life.
I feel the televised trial is adding to their feeling of big famous ppl. This needs to end here. Stop transmission, stop giving them space on the news. No need to say names if this happens again. No need to make them famous. Jail, death row, end of story.
Or better yet, go with your idea but also start airing more stories about criminals and attempted mass shooters being stopped quickly. Like the attempted mass shooter that was killed by a woman in , new jeresy was it?, or the guy who pulled off a 40 yard shot with a handgun. More of those stories to make nut cases and scum bags think twice
How the heck does this kid obtain guns and rifles. It just so terrifying to know what evil is among us. What about his parents? How could they not know what goes through his mind or state of mind?
I've been following this trail and this proverb comes to mind. "The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth" This individual is a loser and a narcissist. The quiet, obsessive, reclusive, weird kid in the corner. He set off a lot of creep alarms, and rightfully so, but leaving that person in the cold is a recipe for disaster. We've got long way to go tword loving our neighbor before tragedies like this can be a voided.
The lone voice of wisdom and insight! All other comments speak of hatred and more violence. There is a reason these mass shootings are common in the states but not in Europe.
@@galadriel3134 Europe has stricter gun laws than the US. That's why mass shootings keep happening here and not there. Yes people can be kind to a kid like this but he planned this for a while. In the time he planned this, no kid tried to speak to him? Become a companion on some level? Also, his parents dropped the ball, I had privacy at this age but not that much to plan out something like this. We can't possibly put the blame on the school and those kids simply just not being nice to him. His "village" failed. He shouldn't be able to get a gun that easily. I have a gun and I'm honestly shocked at how easily my boyfriend bought it for me then handed it over. All they did was run his background (because he's law enforcement) and he and i were good to go. To question of our mental state, nothing and it was through a reputable company.
This has NOTHING to do with gun control. Give me a break. Funny how Chicago has the strictest gun control laws in the United States, yet more people are killed there by guns every single weekend. Amazing that gang members and criminals don’t follow gun laws, and amazing that they are always able to obtain weapons.
This is some deep deep depression and anger at the world. Not defending his actions whatsoever, but we as a society need to help these people before they get to this point.
This is part of what made me the most sad when viewing the footage of him talking to his brother while being interrogated, because his brother says "Now everyone's going to see you as a monster." But that's exactly what he wants.
He met wonderful people who let him into their home. Students who actually said hi to him when he showed up to school after not being there for how long. This kid calls other people brain washed. He’s the one who is brain washed by people who only have meaning with a gun in their hands. By people who seek fame by hurting other people. These are the type of people who lack sense. The ones who only feel hatred because someone else told him to. Shame on him and shame if they don’t hold him accountable. I don’t encourage death because I find that easy but I encourage multiple counts of life in prison with absolutely no possibility of parole. You want to be like those animals who kill and enjoy then go ahead and live with your kind and see if you feel “loved” and “empowered” by others who think objects like guns make them invincible.
He was already in Hell tho everything he wanted was literally right in front him but his inability too obtain these things because of his physical appearance and mental illness made him realize the truth which that his life “free or not” will still be no better then the prison cell he’s in now this life is completely unfair the killing of those kids was just another example
I'm from a neighboring town to Parkland and I had friends who went to that school. We were all adults by the time this happened, but a friend's sister was injured and another friend's favorite gym coach was killed. I also knew someone who knew Nikolas Cruz from work. Before this Parkland was simply a rich small town full of nice homes and horse ranches. I don't think anyone outside of Florida would've known the place exists until this happened. Feels so weird and it hits close to home.
The scariest part is there are hundreds of thousands of kids out there just…. Waiting and watching. The gun stores that sell these insane weapons need to be on trial for selling them to people they just know are going to use it on other people
I'm sorry but that is simply ridiculous. Be on trial because they "just knew?" How could anyone read a person's mind? You can't be charged for not realizing a person was secretly going to commit a crime with something they bought from you. If you want guns banned then ok, but your statement is extreme, makes no sense, and is just trying to place blame elsewhere when the person who committed the crime is the only one to blame.
He deserves all that he gets. The lack of care in his voice and his actions now is so scary. Then to reference his crush like that I feel bad for her and her family.
I know by law everyone is entitled to a lawyer, but there is literally no defense for this. Like what does the lawyer argue? His life is worth something despite the fact that 17 people were killed? Worth what? He wouldn't do anything productive with it. Mass murderers should be buried underneath the prison.
I think some of it is probably genetic. I also read his mom used drugs and alcohol while pregnant and he was put up for adoption so that would probably effect someone
The fact that this guy made these 2 disturbing videos of what he planned to do and didn't set off any FBI agents,police ect..is mind blowing. They seem to find sexual predators,or terrorists threats with no problem.
I could not be in the same room with that person if I were a family member of someone he killed. They are much stronger than me. I’d end up getting myself into trouble.
if you think you will get yourself into trouble in this situation, it means you need God, whom forgives every sin on earth, no matter how sinful it could be, God still forgives. However, it is up to the sinner who decided whether he/she accept the forgiveness from God/ people such as the victims’ families. If he do, he even might go to heaven, but that is up to God Jesus Christ who decide when judgement day comes. This is why hatred will be gone from you if you believe what I said
There are no words. The fact he sits in court now - and gets to hear himself brag, knowing he would be in court - adds salt to everyone’s wounds. Mind blowing there are people on this planet like him.
@@I_amTurok Sent this comment to the FBI tip database for potential terrorist activity. I also tracked your old comments that are worrisome. Good luck.
@@I_amTurok you should be ashamed of yourself boy.
@@SirEnzo371 Lol you actually thing the fbi will do anything?
@@SirEnzo371 the fbi wont do nothing
Death penalty is more deserving in this case
This was calculated and planned out for almost a year. Please have no mercy on this man
And please don't call him a man lol overgrown child that threw a tantrum
Even if he gets the death penalty he will sit for another 20+ years behind bars filing appeal after appeal. There is no justice.
My brother has similar mental health issues, and I had administrators that were the same, there are obvious behaviors that go unnoticed and nobody stops them. They do like too much planning, I don't know how to best explain it, they organize destruction extremely well. The only thing I can think of to explain it is the scene in American Pyscho when he covers everything in plastic and puts on a raincoat before chopping up Jared Leto, they organize like that, and its honestly horrifying when you are the only one that notices their plans.
@@ukmedicfrcs at the same time a life time in jail is miserable. It's debatable whether letting him live or die would be more of a punishment
@@tylerd1297 No don’t waste our tax money by letting him live. Take him out back once the trial is over and with and make it a painful exit.
"I'm sick of everyone calling me an idiot and a dumba*s"
Well they weren't wrong
And good luck with not "being told what to do" in prison.
@@megatherion2695 it's always kids like these , stuck, alone and feeling afraid by there government , or forced out by others , wild how that kid who was just chilling at Macca's happy with his friend next day makes this and following day kills 17 people , how does a kid with good, caring parents lose himself and hurt others ? For attention and what was he Tryna bring attention to? I will never understand it but I would never forgive him if I was a victims parent ,cause I gotta live with losing everything but if I was a victim i probably would forgive him , cause I understood what it was like to be in your head media playing watching videos conspiracies all day and feeling alone , I thought about hurting myself sometimes there were people I did wanna hurt but I could not live with myself even after death thinking I took something away from someone , Ive been held down with a brick against my head and someone saying "they will kill me and smash my head in" ive been assualted , hit with objects pissed on and beat someone so bad I regretted it but I could never ever take a life so I think we should be open to what this kid went through , I don't mean he should be let go if he deserves to die by law kill him but understand let him tell his story before he dies everyone is listening to victims but how are we to stop more violence if we don't listen , this is a shooter who didn't kill himself , so we have something to learn from so after this case if he is sent to death I hope he gets to write what's on his mind and why he lead this life and the drastic choices he made
It's ok to say dumbass. We are all adults here.
probably the kids who called him an idiot really were idiots they probably dont exist anymore got what they deserved
You know he’s been living his whole life on the internet because he said “in real life” instead of like “in reality,” “in fact”
Those words “People will die” is so spine chilling. What a sick person.
He got that from Mel Gibson's We Were Soldiers 😂 not gonna lie, I do love that line
The parents' faces seem to have aged considerably over the course of this trial. Extreme stress and grief does that to people.
It could also be that they're eating unhealthily or just have bad genetics. I'm 32 and I've aged like a champ. Also, recent studies have shown that, on average, vegans live 9 years longer than omnivores. My guess is that the parents' whose faces appear to have aged in such a short amount of time might need to consider the Mediterranean diet.
Thats so mean tbh
@@RobbieStacks90 wtf
@@RobbieStacks90 You have gray hair at 32. You're aging like milk.
@@RobbieStacks90 i recognize u from another video where u bragged about shoving a woman. u a weirdo fr.
This is unfathomable and yet here we are. The fact that this is a trend in the US and that some people aspire to be “the next school shooter” shows how deeply messed up our society has become.
Its because society and MSM make them famous.
The warning signs and mental health of people is overlooked and not addressed. Sadly until mental health therapy and services are addressed like the true massive issue it is this will continue to happen.
Bro shootings are really rare, you watch too much news and think everyone in society is doing this
If it keeps getting publicized like this it will never go away
@@calebcool2171 Mass shootings in the US account for 73% of all 139 incidents occurring in developed countries between 1998 to 2019. During this time, 62% of all 1,318 fatalities from the attacks also happened in the states.
What youve said makes no sense you dweeb 🤣
Those poor parents. They all look so restless and beaten. Prayers to the those families affected by this tragedy.
Praying does nothing
@@richardshiflett5181 it does everything.
Why would God allow those kids to be murdered in the first place ?
Yall both are focusing on the wrong thing
@@JaviM004 don't think so
This trial is giving him exactly what he wants. He wants everyone to know his name and who he is. Disgusting.
For the wrong reasons. We all hate him and he will die being hated.
Lucifer knows your name and you.......get ready kiddo, because once you also depart as you grow old in prison.... Satan awaits
That’s true, He deserves to be forgotten. He’s a worthless human that caused so much suffering toward young kids just trying to grow up. I hope he burns in hell.
That’s a main reason I don’t agree with the death penalty. If he were executed, he’d get a platform for his last words, which would be recorded. Future generations might wonder, who WAS this mysterious, disturbed guy? As it is, he’s rotting away quietly on his own and nobody but his victims’ families gives a toss about him. That’s how it should be.
We know! 🤢
It's hilarious how he's saying he shooting people because he lives a lonely secluded life an he's sick of being told what to do. Now he's alone in a cell all day an his life is completely out of his control
Yes, he is very contradicting…he also stated that he hates people and yet wants everyone to know him. Hmm, if you hate people you would prefer to be alone and ignored.
@@2112jp he just wanted to murder and he can’t admit it
And thy gave him court hairen what in the sam heavens is this I'd throw him right in jail without any hairen this is so absurd these families lost their babies doesn't that matters he should've been the one in an coffen 10ft down Knott these. Babies my sympathy for all parents 😢💫🙏🏾💫🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊
@@2112jp he hates people because they hurt him call him names control him and not give the love and attention he is seeking so retaliation is the shooting to hurt those who hurt him directly or indirectly
@Sons_of_God But he didnt hurt those people. He hurt kids and families he didnt even know.
The fact that there really are people evil and unstable enough to do such harm is nauseating to me.
He was on drugs, refer back to 4:20🔙 on the upload
@@americanhotdog I said precisely what I said. The choices you make shouldn’t lead you to murder, end of discussion.
Unstable can’t make a complex plan , he knew exactly what to how to do and wanted love from a woman and not a blowup doll , he is not crazy, he is criminal
Welcome to planet earth.
@@americanhotdog Not an excuse.
The fact he was allowed to have guns after the things that the cops already knew about him discuss me to a point that I can't even comprehend how did nobody notice this kid was going to do something weird
These cops are not doing their jobs in any of these cases the had plenty of reasons to block them from buying guns.
Read the book, Why Meadow Died.
You didn’t spell disgust right
Typical, they make excuses or overlook the red flags as usual.
@@GeorgiaWhisper omg yes like “oh he has extremely violent and homicidal tendencies?, no problem! give him a weapon. “
bro thinks he’s the joker
Why you callin him "bro"? It's a freaking maniac. He doesn't deserve that title.
this was before
This dude is actually so cringe. Imagine being Angie and having the shooter CRUSH ON YOU LIKE?
OMG 😭😭 Real
holy crap, those recordings are nauseatingly cringey
my exact thought
Like you
@@nocontent52yearsago11 defending a school shooter? stfu
"Everyday, I see the world ending another day."
Poetry. Brings tears to my eyes.
It's heartbreaking to see this video, and think "my children were alive while this was being filmed."
thats exactly how I think whenever I see videos from the past. always thinking of when this was recorded, those ppl were alive
He’s getting exactly what he wanted. If he just gets life without parole he wins. We have to start holding people accountable these attention seekers. I hope the jury delivers Justice
Justice and revenge are different keep that in mind I do hope he gets justice and rots for the rest of his life but an eye for an eye is not justice
Life without parole isn't a walk in the park. He'll adapt, but I doubt he'll ever feel great about not having freedom.
@@Orlish4B you’re right sometimes when you hear somebody say these horrible things right before they commit this sadistic act it makes you immediately want the worst thing possible for them. I imagine that life without parole does suck….but it does make me made when he will receive free health care, free education, a private cell, and the citizens of Florida/US will pay for it all. It would be hard for me to stand in front of a court and God and say “give this man death” it would weigh on me forever but this guy is evil. It’s a sad situation our country is sick right now.
@@christopher399 death row isn’t a walk in the park either
@@Orlish4B justice would be executing this moron and not wasting millions of tax payer dollars going through this sentencing trial. Why do people think taxpayers should pay for something like that to rot in prison for the next 70 years?
The parents of the victims should be the ones to decide his punishment. Let them all come together and decide what they agree is the correct outcome for themselves. Absolutely devastating what has happened to their lives now
I'll get the ouiji board out and start asking some of them.
He said that's what he had wanted but this is our judicial system.
due process you dolt
@@sumduma55 they said the PARENTS of the victims
don't they have the families do impact statements for the sentencing ?
That second video, his “manifesto” or whatever you call that disgusting piece of footage, was totally void of any emotion. It’s almost like he was saying whatever he thought would make him sound like the ultimate bada$$ and make his evil acts infamous. What a sorry excuse for a human being. Honestly, he is despicable and deserves no mercy as he spared none for any of the victims that day. He is in God’s hands now.
After listening to him attempt to give that “manifesto” I can see why people called him a dumbass
agree. despicable and no mercy. if it was up to me, he would never have a proper burial. just throw the dead turd in the city dump
yup it seemed scripted
Yea the tone is what really threw it off for me.
Yeah this little douchebag makes me sick. I agree with you that this one was def scripted. The line that really stood out to me was where he was talking about power...he said "with the power of my ar 15"....that's for sure because he is a weakling with no power of his own. He had to use a gun to slaughter innocent people to try to make himself out to be powerful... wrong!!!
I’m one of the columbine shooting survivors in 1999. This really brings back that anguish and grief I had over school mates I knew who got shot….idk what it is about wanting to kill school kids…I dread this isn’t the last one we’ll see in our lifetime. Too many already since my Highschool 🤦♂️
I still think about Columbine...I feel like that was the start of all these high school shootings. God bless you, I can't even imagine what that day was like for you 🙏
@@melissajoan8917 thank you. Me and some friends was just talking about that…we feel like that was the start of this “trend” freakin insane
❤️❤️
@@melissajoan8917 it wasn't. They had school shootings in the 1800s. This is not new.
I’m sorry you had to go through something like that man.
I still think about that day. I’m 35 years old now - probably close to your age too. I grew up in northern Illinois. It was all anyone talked about for months.
I hope as time has passed you have healed and you’re thriving. Just wanted you to know I support you - and others too.
It’s chilling to know that there are still people out there who think massacre is the only way to satisfy their sick selves🤮😓
Right, So many of them just turn to furry which is equally worse IMO.
@@melt4598 furry lmao like animals?
@@eviljesus6111 The people who dress up in dog costumes
None of them have obviously discovered the power of the right hand ( or left hand ) to satisfy any need
@@friedkake1876 very true lmao
What a sick human!!! And the parents of the deceased have to sit and watch this… my heart breaks for them. Fly high angels 👼
Human? Nah, that "thing" right there is the manifestation of evil.
And the fact that they have to relive this nightmare while he sits there and doodles and covers his ears really like a little, pathetic child really makes me angry
@@jessicapreston9808 right, I hate that they are even giving him this much fame and attention this be exactly what they want, to hear parents crying etc. he thought this stuff through before he did it he should be somewhere hanging upside down or something 🤷🏽♂️
@@I_amTurok Well that's no longer an option- he either rots in jail for the rest of his life or he gets the death penalty. His fate lies with the jury's decision.
@@I_amTurok sounds like you need help too
What the media need to realize is that after any shooting posting the photo of the face of the shooter over and over again on the news doesnt help anyone if the shooter has already been caught. It only motivates the next shooter just like it motivated cruz which you can hear him say in his video.
yes. the mistakes are being made again and again. these losers love the attention they are gettin from the media. and it only motivates another weirdo to do it once more.
Yes, its law to be made public. But 20 years ago we did not have social media. Only the local news would show this in florida. Now the entire world has access to this. Mass shooters know this and do it to become famous....whether they survive or get killed during shooting.
you truly think the media cares ???lol??? they need their next story anyways..
It helps
Thank you!!! Exactly my thoughts… that’s their aim! To be known. 😐
I truly believe Victoria Gonzalez is the one victim that’s statement reached him in some way. She spoke in the way this kid tried so hard to.
Pure evil and it's so sad he felt this way, I feel so bad for those parents in court. What a terrible thing to go through.
reality is were all evil in some ways, we judge others not realizing that we might just be as monsterous or even greater than him. Everyone is ignorant of something
It’s not evil. This is what happens when a person with extremely low intelligence, horrible social conditioning, years of bullying and belittling by people he looked up to (adults in his life and peers at school), lack of emotions and mental illness (psychopathy and narcissism) all blend together in a teenager who isn’t mature enough yet to understand there own actions due to the things I mentioned earlier. Evil is a cop out. These type of people will continue to occur because of the things I mentioned. The only one of those things we can’t prevent completely is the mental illness. But we can identify it early in a child’s life and hopefully prevent this type of thing from happening by counseling and medication and supervision. If that isn’t working then committing them to an institutional hospital should be done. But the first line of defense against this is preventing people who aren’t fit to have children from having them. Preventing bullying and harassment in school. Finding ways to teach children without high intelligence so that they don’t feel left out and ostracized. Making sure kids that are socially awkward aren’t picked on and abused at home by siblings or parents. Sorry about the rant. Its just that watching these videos of him, it’s just so obvious what’s going on but people just don’t seem to see it for some reason.
@@OspreyEye couldn’t have said it better myself
@@OspreyEye Thank you.
I would add that a kid like this should not be allowed anywhere near a gun: he talks about his “AR” like it’s his girlfriend.
The way he talks about this so non chalantly is one of the most deranged things I’ve ever seen
The joker
Except with a speech impediment
@@arturos.l.2248 I just told myself the same thing the way he said “people will die”
Question everything you hear & see... Take note of all the components of this case coming to light (ie adoption agency involved in basically child trafficking, a dr who did not receive a letter addressed to him & who points out that Cross Creek's well known protocol doesn't match up re: letter & even timing of when letter was SUPPOSEDLY written... In other words, take note of the trees, but don't neglect to see the forrest...
@@JR-zm2yu What do you mean?
"i hope to see you in the afterlife" brudda you're gonna be sharing your afterlife with the devil himself
Maybe not. Should he be held responsible for his actions when he is obviously in a bad mind-state? Is he possessed by some kind of being or power? What influenced him to buy a gun and kill innocent people with it? Most Americans don't wake up one day and decide to murder children. Is he mentally ill? Radicalized? Influenced by the internet? The absurd thing to me is that he is an American citizen. Educated and raised similar to the rest of us. I think there is a move to radicalize individuals in America to take on these homicidal perspectives. Violence seems to be normalized to this generation.
@@topsone3428 i’m not a psychiatrist, but i know a people with mental illness that do great things with their life, not pick up an ar-15 and shoot people. i’m sorry but i will never sympathise with people that commit such murders
And apparently most people are in hell
Bro is cringe💀☠☠💀☠💀
😭😭
Like you
This kid is such a monster. He hears this, yet gets to cover his ears for the massacre!!!!!! A damn OUTRAGE 😠 😡
Nothing wrong with him covering his ears.
Why does it matter if he covers his ears? He already knows what he said in the videos.
@@tookitogo What's the sense in covering anything? He's already witnessed the bloodshed and devastation first hand! To him it should be like rewatching a sick movie all over again.
@@kyleftw1679 Yet the people he killed had to go through with it. He should have been handcuffed with his hands behind him. He shouldn't get the privilege to block his ears
@@akumabazooka9169 It's a constitutional right to be able to. There's many BSO offices to ensure he dosn't do anything out of hand.
No feelings no empathy just a poor excuse for a human being.
I would actually classify him as an evil inhumane being.....one that should reap the consequence of a slow and very painful death for his inhumanity
he's speaking mad facts though.
about the government.
@@dontknow3949
Maybe he means mk ultra
@@bobby6569 he ain’t lying we are born to help the rich get richer
I don't know how these poor parents can sit through this.. 😠💔
I like how absolutely nobody in the court found him intimidating or cool like Nick wanted.
Their faces express cringe
hes very cool u jus jelly
I mean as far as intimidating goes a mass child murderer might be up there, now could I take him in a fight sure but still very intimidating he took many lives without any guilt
@Frog Glen yes, this man is straight cringe. and i try to say cringe sparing, and this was that. he said he did it so they’ll see him on the news, so they’ll know his name… mans just wanted attention. he turned into the poster boy on the internet for fake crazy on the video “what pretending to be crazy looks like” too. this man is a walking L.
@@chasebaverstock4123 Speak for yourself there, bud. There is nothing intimidating about gunning down kids. My only hope is he's Big Bubba's Human Fleshlight real soon.
He wasn’t trying to be cool 😂
Sick individual!! One can see the depression, the solitude, the unhappiness in his life, but nothing justifies his actions.
He should get the death penalty idc
The parents want it so it should happen
Easier said
@@israelvaldivia2686 easier done as well. As evidenced by the millions of depressed people who haven’t caused a mass shooting.
hes not sick stfu
@@mae388 SOME PEOPLE KILL OKAY?! WHY ARE YOU ALL HATING SERIAL KILLERS!? YOU'RE ALL DESPICABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely speechless how anyone could have so much hate. He sounds like he is talking about a casual trip he is going to take.
This is terrifying. As a mom of three boys in school, this is one of my biggest fears. It is also one my boys fears too. It is hard enough for kids to go to school with all the pressure of difficult homework let alone worrying about a school shooter. Why do these people take it out on innocent kids😣
@@SavedSnake teaching your kids about death and evil everyday isn't going to help them when they get shot in the back running its only going to damage their minds into thinking EVERYONE is evil including you and their father
It’s really rare to be involved in a school shooting & even rarer to get killed. There’s no need to put that fear on children. & if your that scared then buy your kids a bulletproof backpack which would really help to shield their body or back as they run. But like I said, it’s really rare. I have more of a fear of getting into a car accident with my son.
They can be evil to and no kids start it to casting others out and people even parent kids teachers will to it and insult you that’s why it happens a lot but it will never end people talk out there ass to much and it’s sad cause kids like that don’t ever get the help and are bullied and abused and tormented by everyone around them so you can’t blame no one but your selfs and that’s fax
94% of ma les are responsible for the vi olent cri me rate. And ppl still don’t want to raise their kids right & teach them vio lence / arrogance. He’s 100% responsible and empty pos coward… You sound like an empathetic person. But humans are the only monsters here… Sick
Teach your kids to not bully and to make sure to stop others from bullying. If this kid wasn't bullied, those children would be alive today
"I will always love you, Angie"
imagine poor Angie when everyone sees this...slides back into bushes like Homer Simpson...
I kept thinking, "Who is Angie???". Did he have a breakup??? Did he ask her out and get denied???
@@jda2587His ex girlfriend
@@jda2587probably the second one
Its horrific that he was so happy and cocky about all this, yet he blames it on society this and that theres no reason to spread such deep and terrible pain to so many just because u feel like it🥺
his blame on society is such a cop out excuse , like didnt even try. disgusting
@@anubis7589 he killed innocent kids regardless of if it was the ones that bullied him or not.
@@anubis7589 are u really approving this?!!!
@@anubis7589 you are so sick and twisted wtf I don’t even want to know what u think about 9/11 this monster killed random just because a girl denied him he was a stalker and a coward!!!!
@@anubis7589 yeah dude you're definitely on a watchlist
When he mentioned his goal of 20 people, man, my stomach just sank… words can’t even explain
my stomach also sank at him imitating the gun shots with a silly "pew pew pew" noise in such a nonchalant way. I can't even describe the anger I felt.. it's literally nauseating.
:/ it’s disturbing. i can’t even think of any more adjectives to describe this heinous act…
Heartless Calculated act 😔😔
My heart goes out to the victims and their families. What a sick bastard.
This is infuriating because he got exactly what he wanted. We NEED to censor their names and faces.
Freedom of information act will always win
Not saying it’s right
that's what pisses me off most. I know it'll still happen, but that is exactly what motivates these lonely people- attention. They know if they commit a horrendous crime then they will finally have people pay attention to them, and seeing it happen with other school shooters just confirms to them that they will be "famous" if they follow their footsteps. It's absolutely unfathomable.
See some cases truly deserve and eye for an eye....the family members should be allowed to take the law into their own hands for this case
Lmao letting the deceaseds parents and close ones pummel him to death sounds like an excellent idea
100% agree.
The only problem with that, is that they have consciences, and would probably have some major PTSD, and there are likely those among this group, that wouldn’t retaliate, as a means of effecting justice. It’s the state’s responsibility.
@@donnaanderson2846 Ino somone would have no problem…if somone killed my son I will kill him and sleep like an angel wether in my bed or a cell
@@donnaanderson2846 well said also it would encite a slew of vigilantes to do the same and perform mass street justice
How disgusting this boosted his ego. How sick… “my goal is 20 people” sick beyond words
Who does he think he is💀
My heart absolutely breaks for these parents. I can’t imagine how they feel. I hope God lays his hand on them and gives them strength and comfort.
Why didn't God protect their children?
@@opo3628 You don’t know what you’re talking about so just stop while you’re ahead.
@@opo3628 gods plan lol
@@andrewstack9980 I think what's needs to stop is the faith BS
@@ipickuptrash1640 What are you talking about?
No way I could have stayed in my seat after hearing this especially if this was my child 😡 My rage would have took over but I’d probably done been thrown out long before this if I’m being honest 😰 God give all these parents strength to endure all this pain and headache to get through this trail and please let justice be served according to your will 🙏🙏😇❤️
What about HIS parents, where were they, why did he turn out so bad? I always have to look at both parties, and he sounds VERY troubled, almost as if he's demon oppressed.
@@JaneCooper190072 i think someone in the comments said that his parents died
@@miraclemitchell7231 Makes sense. I know it's not an excuse whatsoever but I can imagine loosing your parents at a young age. You would truly feel lost in this world, I know I would. Yeah he was very very troubled. And the problem is there's signs of these troubled young people and if someone does speak up it's like they're ignored cause in reality the law can't do anything until someone dies and a crime is committed. All that hate he feels is suppressed hurt and pain, it's sad that it get's to that point where they just go all out. Like why did no one step in, like an extended family member or something. Always so many questions after the fact isn't there. :(
@@JaneCooper190072 his birth mom was a drugged criminal, she was arrested for cocaine and crack while pregnant with him….. he got adopted by an old couple and both passed away
long story short. He was adopted. His birth mom gave him up because she was a drug addict. His adoptive mother tried to help him. But she was a push over.. She eventually died before the shooting happend :( What a sick kid.. THERE WAS SIGNS! Listen to the podcast “murder in america” they just covered this episode and they explain his whole life. I hope he rots in hell.
He probably thought he sounded a lot cooler lol
😂😂 Right??? He sounds like a small basement dweller. So immature. A total loser!
just thinking the same thing....i don't think much thought or practice went into it....i guess his whole life was kinda like that
Waych Elliot Rodgers retribution video. He probably thought the same thing.
A message to all you people that think your life is meaning less. You re life is not meaning less and everything isnt what it seems. Life is hard and people say mean things to others, thus: it is up to you to change your so called meaning less life and bring it to fruition. We have the power to change the outcome of our depression and anger but it all starts with changing our attitude and our way of thinking. Dont be like this guy. Youre are better and you matter.
Don't be like Nik. Just do hardcore drugs like a normal person.
This is literally insane I pray that this never happens again. I want to cry how bad this is.
With how things are in the US it inevitably will. Just pray neither of us are directly affected. Not much anyone can do about it at this point.
@@stoiccrane4259 I hear you
It will, defiantly it will. US has twice more school mass shootings than all countries combined.
@@stoiccrane4259 what does praying do?
@@bobmanders8635 Give a false sense of security.
Young man with black heart and soul
Speaking about black souls, more of them lose their lives in Chicago weekly to gun violence than what this young man did.
Imagine how jaded he would become with time.
@@macbeth642 No father figure being present is the issue. The community attempts to "dismantle the nuclear family" is backed up by government subsidies that were knowingly designed to influence their political preference and socioeconomic status.
@@macbeth642 we got to stop excusing our community ....if you let your kid listen to little durk is the "white man" responsible or you?
@@macbeth642 There is probably a big genetic factor too. The environment they evolved in, separated from the rest of us for over 40,000 years, had no harsh winters (no need to plan ahead) and was not particularly difficult to survive in, so there was no evolutionary pressure against idleness, low impulse control, or a lack of intelligence.
If you watched the arrest video when he's on the ground attempting to convince the cops he don't know what happened, what he just did or where he was. Like he just snapped out of hypnosis. Demons in my hrad man!. He's a total psychopath and a pathetic one too boot.
How weren't these videos found before this horrible tragedy?
He didn’t publish the videos. They were just saved on his phone which was recovered from the crime scene.
I remember that lmao he made soap opera actors look good 🤣
The feds Chase drug dealers and not high school shooting white children
D-d-demons man...voices!
@@deviantlord142 And also, even if uploaded... Does anyone here know how big the internet is!? I don't have the answer myself, but I'm pretty sure it's too big to expect law enforcement, or parents, to have control of everything that ends up there.
And you also have some pretty dark places online too, where talking about murder won't necessarily get you reported anywhere. Remember, the internet is full of bad people. I'm not talking about people being assholes. I'm talking about genuinely bad people.
Had lots of times of Lone Wolf life. Also had a lot of people turn on me. What did it do? Made me stronger and understand they were the weak ones. I moved on, lived my life and tried to live it right.
We can point the finger at them and attack them or we can put the finger in our pocket, overcome and move forth. Let Gods hand guide you......
Poor soul allowed the other hand to guide him....
Amen brother!
he roams about like a roaring lion... One must put on the whole armour of God, everyday!
God bless 🙌🙏
He sounds very unintelligent
He's a perfect embodiment of fetal alcohol syndrome.
He has autism spectrum disorder. So his speech sounds a bit weird. But that lack of respect is probably what drove him to do this in the first place.
He sounds smart
Agreed. He even admitted to police that he wanted to be an Army Ranger but that he failed the ASVAB. I have to tell you as a veteran, the army has the lowest standards for passing the ASVAB (you need at least a 31 out of 99), and to get a decent job you really need a 50+. If he couldn't score at least a 31 then I agree with him and you that he is objectively unintelligent.
I failed it too! What’s your point
Makes me sick to my stomach that this is exactly what he wanted. Makes me question if I want to continue watching this case... :( I may explore other ways to stand with and support the families.
I don't know how him personally, but I have a feeling he would rather not be in court, facing a possible execution. And when he's alone in his cell... I have a feeling he would rather be on the outside.
I don't think he's in a happy place. If I'm not mistaken, he also expressed in one of his letters a hope that he will one day see freedom again. (He knows this won't be likely, but facing a life sentence can be difficult. It can take a while to accept it and adapt.)
You watch for the same reason everyone else does; Morbid curiosity that's all. The same year this happened, about 19,000 other people were murdered with firearms. Where's everyone's "condolences" and "Heartbreak" for them?
And "Other ways"? Watching the trial on TV and UA-cam is not supporting or "standing with" them at all.
Yeah its absolutely appalling that he's sitting there in safety, basically taunting the victim's families with the videos he made 4 years ago and saying everyone will know his name. He got exactly what he wanted, but the media can't not cover it. His videos and story are going viral because of the media. SMH.
@@ronnie_5150 you know there is a quote that i think you would like " one death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic" -stalin. and bro, guess how many people were murdered by firearms in my country?
It’s crazy because he sounds like he’s trolling but this actually happened and that’s what’s so disturbing about it.
The way he sounds i wouldn't have took him seriously..He sounds like a virgin nerdy geek 🤓
IKR. He literally sounds like a parody of himself in the video.
He did it for the memes literally
Damn I wonder how he was treated at school to make him like this
He’s just crazy
@@colinbeballin77 did you know him personally
OH, so bc you're going through something you decide to wake up one day and kill people ????? horrible - he even laughed about it. UGH.
Exactly
I have no words for this act. All I hope is that justice is served and this man faces the death penalty for what he did to these innocent children trying to get an education.
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You do have 'words' , Einstein. They're just cliched and tedious ones.
I still don’t understand why death penalty is even in question. They have all the proof they need. He strategically planned this, shot up the school, bragged about it, and he even tried attacking a deputy-on-duty. He took so many innocent lives and he’s not going to change. Why even fight for life at this point.
Why water tax dollars when he pled guilty? Do the parents want to relive all this pain?
Some jurors may not want to give him death because he is young.
@@jeanettesmith765 punishment for true evil is to endure there own actions
I’m here from a few months in the future to let you know that he didn’t get the death penalty.
Wow, that is really disturbing. This is an incredibly unfortunate crossroad between misinformation, societal and peer pressure, access to weapons of heavy destruction, and what most likely seems to be guidance from other bad influences. It’s really sad and scary
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Wow, this kid needed help a long time ago. He needed something to be proud of and work towards. The human mind can enter some very dark places if we don’t have something to look forward to....something to work on then all hope is lost. Just something as simple as working up a sweat everyday could do so much good...especially for young men.
Well when they start paying a livable wage or I don't have to be in debt for life to go to school you let us know because until then you might as well skip all the nonsense and go straight to being homeless.
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Who is "they" and will they also lose money to pay your debt?
@@contraband1543 wtf are you talking about? You don’t need a “livable wage” to not be a murderous coward…
He needed real love but they said he was a truecel
He probably felt entitled to a virgin 10/10 girl as normies would say. that’s why he did it. Just take a shower bro!
Repulsive. He deserves what is coming and so much more...
So do you… we all do
The insecurity and detachment stems from him thinking he deserves to be praised. He's a narcissist and not reeeaally a sociopath because he's so insecure about his life's achievements so far at such a young age. A dangerous person who expects everything done for them until they snap when they find out how useless they are when they hide instead of being a responsible member of society.
And so the media gives this guy what he wants. Press coverage. Excellent thinking
@@45eno good. Give him what he wants.
Give the next one what he wants.
And then AMERICA will realize what they allow to keep happening.
@@Darth_Bateman Yeah well my goal is to not let shooters keep doing what they are doing. My goal is for there to be less reason, motivation or ease for them to act in such a way. And I really don't think half of America will realize that they are in error. Look at our economy, hardly any Dems saying well Trump was better looks like we made a mistake. They won't learn as they are not discerning reasonable people. They are perfectly described as sheep to the media narrative.
You know nothing about him lol. This was a failure on all sides. Kid had a hard ass life. No excuses for what hes done either way. But it really is a shame that literally one person reaching out to him could have made a world of difference. Just hearing his voice i can imagine he was immensely bullied, on top of losing his entire family. I mean hes really been through it. Its hard to see value in life when you, and everyone around you, is telling you that your own life is worthless. When everything and everyone important to you continues to disappear.
Im not defending his actions by any means. But it really all is just one big shame.
@@JabJabBinks one big shame. It’s 17 shames dude.
Can't feel sorry for him. He actually planned it.. smh nothing wrong with him..he is sick. 😔😔
He wasn’t his it’s one he bullied him and cause him to do the school shooting
He gloats at all the attention he’s getting. This is what he dreamed of. However when they played the recordings from the shootings he cowardly put his fingers in his ears.
This really sets back my believe that there’s some good in everyone
I graduated from MSD and that courtyard has so many memories. We had so many lunches there and if you look back at the history of MSD there has been so much tragedy at that school that this just blew our minds.
I've tried to research the history and nothing is coming up, what else happened at that school x
I understand some of his feelings and they hit close to home.....but my god man, hurting others cause you're hurting? Disgusting 🤦♂️
Same😪😪😪😪 sometimes I hate life but I wouldn’t kill anyone im not tryna go to jail and make life more miserable!
That's exactly it! I'm hurting so I want you to hurt also. He's targeting kids he has no connection with, there not the same ones who rejected him and gave him a hard time a few years previous. Basically this massacre is a big up yours to the community that he thinks rejected him.
depression is part of life almost everyone feels it at one point or another. for him to even link the two is absolutely disgusting
yes exactly you can draw parallels to kurt cobain even. He hated the world but was man enough to just kill himself. And leave behind his art... what a loser.
the defense actually laid out the fact that he was a drug, liquor, and r*pe baby. had abortions been around back then, 17 lives could’ve been saved.
The fact they have been trying to kill him for four years and can’t is infuriating
HE MADE A MISTAKE!!!
@@justinporter2117A MISTAKE?? You call that a mistake? Killing innocent kids?
The way to stop these shootings are to make harsher punishments and also not publicizing the shooter. As shown in these clips are what he wanted was fame
The way to stop these shootings is to remove gun access from these nuts.
you think harsher punishments will stop someone who is willing to commit a mass shooting? He stepped into that school knowing there was a very good chance that it was his last day alive.
@@Max-rc1wb yes if the punishment was torture. It would definitely send a message to future mass shooters
So you want the solution after the deed is done that ain’t what we need we need to be way more open on mental help
You forgot to mention stopping mentally disturbed children from buying AR-15s
I remember when he was being apprehended and interrogated. He said it was a demon/the devil.
These confessions don't say the same. So much for "playing crazy".
Was this guy bullied? Wouldnt be surprised. Getting bullied makes a person dangerous.
The way he looks so bothered sitting there. The audacity
Okay I think everyone is ready for a ruling. Everyone for death penalty raise your hand.
The death penalty is one of those parts of society that we have to acknowledge is sometimes necessary. The willingness to kill humans is a trait that needs to be exterminated, not kept in a cage for the rest of it's life.
Can i raise both hands and feet to count as 4 votes?
Quartering.
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I feel the televised trial is adding to their feeling of big famous ppl. This needs to end here. Stop transmission, stop giving them space on the news. No need to say names if this happens again. No need to make them famous. Jail, death row, end of story.
Very well said. Sometimes it makes me question the media's intentions.
Or better yet, go with your idea but also start airing more stories about criminals and attempted mass shooters being stopped quickly.
Like the attempted mass shooter that was killed by a woman in , new jeresy was it?, or the guy who pulled off a 40 yard shot with a handgun.
More of those stories to make nut cases and scum bags think twice
@Boston Gal then he chose the right state to do what he did
How the heck does this kid obtain guns and rifles. It just so terrifying to know what evil is among us. What about his parents? How could they not know what goes through his mind or state of mind?
ask your government who passed his background check
His father died when he was 5.
Definition of pre meditated.
I will never understand how someone could get pleasure in hurting other people.
Especially kids
@@minervarosillo7269 I know, also it's one of those things I never want to understand.
Does he count as other people?
I really want to hurt him.
They are called sadistic people and there are a lot of them all over the world
It’s almost like we keep letting people like this with guns 😱
I've been following this trail and this
proverb comes to mind.
"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth"
This individual is a loser and a narcissist. The quiet, obsessive, reclusive, weird kid in the corner. He set off a lot of creep alarms, and rightfully so, but leaving that person in the cold is a recipe for disaster. We've got long way to go tword loving our neighbor before tragedies like this can be a voided.
The lone voice of wisdom and insight! All other comments speak of hatred and more violence. There is a reason these mass shootings are common in the states but not in Europe.
@@galadriel3134 Europe has stricter gun laws than the US. That's why mass shootings keep happening here and not there. Yes people can be kind to a kid like this but he planned this for a while. In the time he planned this, no kid tried to speak to him? Become a companion on some level? Also, his parents dropped the ball, I had privacy at this age but not that much to plan out something like this. We can't possibly put the blame on the school and those kids simply just not being nice to him. His "village" failed. He shouldn't be able to get a gun that easily. I have a gun and I'm honestly shocked at how easily my boyfriend bought it for me then handed it over. All they did was run his background (because he's law enforcement) and he and i were good to go. To question of our mental state, nothing and it was through a reputable company.
Cain was loved
This has NOTHING to do with gun control. Give me a break. Funny how Chicago has the strictest gun control laws in the United States, yet more people are killed there by guns every single weekend. Amazing that gang members and criminals don’t follow gun laws, and amazing that they are always able to obtain weapons.
That is quite powerful and,profound.
Saying “You’re all going to die, can’t wait.” Is truly sickening
This is some deep deep depression and anger at the world. Not defending his actions whatsoever, but we as a society need to help these people before they get to this point.
He had TONS of therapy
His grandmother really advocated for him
Some people are just evil
Pure Evil!! He makes me sick on TV. can't imagine how all these families feel.
Mark my words, no matter how this trial ends, this man will never be released from prison.
Bruh the only options are life in prison without parole, or death.
This is part of what made me the most sad when viewing the footage of him talking to his brother while being interrogated, because his brother says "Now everyone's going to see you as a monster." But that's exactly what he wants.
I can't imagine how the families of the victims felt watching this. Idk if it were me that I could have sat there and watched that.
I would have. The parents have a need to hear all the evidence presented.
@@jeanettesmith765 Do you mean they have the right to hear all the evidence? If so, I totally agree!
He is one sick individual.
He met wonderful people who let him into their home. Students who actually said hi to him when he showed up to school after not being there for how long. This kid calls other people brain washed. He’s the one who is brain washed by people who only have meaning with a gun in their hands. By people who seek fame by hurting other people. These are the type of people who lack sense. The ones who only feel hatred because someone else told him to. Shame on him and shame if they don’t hold him accountable. I don’t encourage death because I find that easy but I encourage multiple counts of life in prison with absolutely no possibility of parole. You want to be like those animals who kill and enjoy then go ahead and live with your kind and see if you feel “loved” and “empowered” by others who think objects like guns make them invincible.
Well said
He was already in Hell tho everything he wanted was literally right in front him but his inability too obtain these things because of his physical appearance and mental illness made him realize the truth which that his life “free or not” will still be no better then the prison cell he’s in now this life is completely unfair the killing of those kids was just another example
God if I was in that court I wouldn’t hold back. This just angers me
@user-nf6pi8gd3o If that would be the case your world, our world would not exist. It would be gone long ago.
I'm from a neighboring town to Parkland and I had friends who went to that school. We were all adults by the time this happened, but a friend's sister was injured and another friend's favorite gym coach was killed. I also knew someone who knew Nikolas Cruz from work. Before this Parkland was simply a rich small town full of nice homes and horse ranches. I don't think anyone outside of Florida would've known the place exists until this happened. Feels so weird and it hits close to home.
The scariest part is there are hundreds of thousands of kids out there just…. Waiting and watching. The gun stores that sell these insane weapons need to be on trial for selling them to people they just know are going to use it on other people
I'm sorry but that is simply ridiculous. Be on trial because they "just knew?" How could anyone read a person's mind? You can't be charged for not realizing a person was secretly going to commit a crime with something they bought from you. If you want guns banned then ok, but your statement is extreme, makes no sense, and is just trying to place blame elsewhere when the person who committed the crime is the only one to blame.
He deserves all that he gets. The lack of care in his voice and his actions now is so scary. Then to reference his crush like that I feel bad for her and her family.
If I was the judge: “dis you? :🤓
I know by law everyone is entitled to a lawyer, but there is literally no defense for this. Like what does the lawyer argue? His life is worth something despite the fact that 17 people were killed? Worth what? He wouldn't do anything productive with it. Mass murderers should be buried underneath the prison.
Skip the trial, give him to families. Save money
Thats just barbaric, give him to the public!
Best piece of advice I've seen on this matter.
I’m confused on why this all needs to be reviewed? Run him through a 2 hour trial and lock him up?? Spare these parents the grief
This is so sad😢
I just want to know where things went wrong for this kid. How did he have no compassion for human life. Why?
Mental issues on top of being possibly bullied. Listen to when he talks about people calling him an idiot, dumbass, etc.
I believe some people are just born messed up
I wonder the same thing….
I think some of it is probably genetic. I also read his mom used drugs and alcohol while pregnant and he was put up for adoption so that would probably effect someone
Who cares?
The fact that this guy made these 2 disturbing videos of what he planned to do and didn't set off any FBI agents,police ect..is mind blowing. They seem to find sexual predators,or terrorists threats with no problem.
Exactly
I suppose it depends on when he uploaded them.
He's getting what he wanted, which is to be glorified by the media. 🤦♂
following this case is the most heartbreaking thing ive ever heard, i hope the victims families are healing from this horrible creature.
I could not be in the same room with that person if I were a family member of someone he killed. They are much stronger than me. I’d end up getting myself into trouble.
if you think you will get yourself into trouble in this situation, it means you need God, whom forgives every sin on earth, no matter how sinful it could be, God still forgives. However, it is up to the sinner who decided whether he/she accept the forgiveness from God/ people such as the victims’ families. If he do, he even might go to heaven, but that is up to God Jesus Christ who decide when judgement day comes. This is why hatred will be gone from you if you believe what I said