A Power-Full Deck Indeed | Vintage Cube Draft | MTG | LSV

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • This ended up being one of the best Vintage Cube decks I've drafted, and had some interactions that were especially sweet. Enjoy! Vintage Cube List: cubecobra.com/...
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  • @jenara19b
    @jenara19b Рік тому +161

    The "Ancestral you" play was the coolest thing I've seen since *check notes* the blink Knight of autumn to kill my own Copter and flip Avacyn from *checks again* yesterday!!
    This channel is the best thing that has happened to Magic this year

    • @mattwc93
      @mattwc93 Рік тому +7

      For real, two huge bangers in a row I am loving the constant cube content.

    • @jrjamesson
      @jrjamesson Рік тому +1

      yeah. WOW loved it

  • @bdellovibrioo5242
    @bdellovibrioo5242 Рік тому +107

    I really appreciated the showmanship of not explaining the Ancestral plan vs Abram until putting it into action.

    • @jacobwilliams8885
      @jacobwilliams8885 Рік тому +9

      I haven't been that excited for a flashy LSV play since he faded Settle the Wreckage on the PT.

    • @thereisnosaurus1
      @thereisnosaurus1 Рік тому +1

      @@jacobwilliams8885 there was an awesome one in an earlier draft to self kill one of his own creatures while they were indestructible to get a death trigger, one of the snazziest plays I've seen in limited ever.

    • @peewee0224
      @peewee0224 Рік тому +6

      @@thereisnosaurus1it wasn’t that they where indestructible he just didn’t have a kill spell but he had a way to flicker his knight of autumn to kill his smugglers copter to get a death trigger.

    • @GK_Lucy
      @GK_Lucy Рік тому

      @@peewee0224His creatures where also indestructible from Avacyn entering, but copter wasn‘t crewed yet so it could still be destroyed. Then crewed the copter, then flicker knight of autumn to pop copter triggering Avacyns flip ability.

    • @peewee0224
      @peewee0224 Рік тому +1

      @@GK_Lucy wrong he cast avacyn on his opponents turn then untapped. None of his creatures where indestructible.

  • @goose4878
    @goose4878 Рік тому +46

    Listening to LSV talk about cube picks is more soothing than a 24 hour rain and thunderstorm compilation.

    • @Ninjamanhammer
      @Ninjamanhammer Рік тому +3

      10 hour of LSV draft speculations to fall asleep to.

    • @niklasthiman9583
      @niklasthiman9583 Рік тому +1

      Agree 100%. Watching an LSV draft is one of the more relaxing thing I know.

  • @derekwatring5999
    @derekwatring5999 Рік тому +104

    Just throwin in my feedback -- card zooming is pretty helpful sometimes, I enjoy it.

    • @scottmillor
      @scottmillor Рік тому +2

      Totally agree

    • @harbhub
      @harbhub Рік тому +6

      Also hold the zoom a bit longer. Currently having to pause to be able to read stuff, which isn't terrible, but not ideal.

    • @2LettersSho
      @2LettersSho Рік тому +5

      @@harbhub I don't mind a reading pause from time to time if I don't know the card (which admittedly isn't often, bit of a fiend here) because I wouldn't want to distract LSV's thought process or draft clock with card-reading. I love these drafts for how real and alive they feel so wouldn't want to lose any of that :)

    • @MrDancingrobots
      @MrDancingrobots Рік тому

      Love the zoom

    • @SailorMDC4
      @SailorMDC4 Рік тому +1

      This times a million. I mean this is a game with such a large library of cards and effects its nice getting that clean zoom when im observing a draft on my Samsung Galaxy. I like that LSV is always improving the viewers experience. 👌🏻

  • @burtreynoldz6308
    @burtreynoldz6308 Рік тому +44

    These team drafts are so much fun to watch because it has more of a story than an average league draft.

    • @johnpittman501
      @johnpittman501 Рік тому +1

      P

    • @gragrim
      @gragrim Рік тому +1

      Agreed

    • @Eebers
      @Eebers Рік тому +1

      Agreed, while mtgo cube is lsv making the nuttiest decks he can think of, team cube is lsv using his full power

  • @kratos7358
    @kratos7358 Рік тому +65

    I literally never get tired of these vintage cube drafts

  • @nabelnabel
    @nabelnabel Рік тому +29

    It's like I died and went to heaven with getting one LSV vintage cube team draft a day.❤‍🔥

  • @SuperbFairy
    @SuperbFairy Рік тому +11

    watching lsv for so many years has taught me so much as a magic player... it's also given me a crippling addiction to playing terrible storm at every opportunity, frankly I'm glad for both of these things

  • @najisalloum7664
    @najisalloum7664 Рік тому +27

    I do not know how long Luis will post daily drafts but it has been truly wonderful. I credit so much of my learning and level ups to LSV's content over the years, thanks man 🤟

    • @austinnadz1
      @austinnadz1 Рік тому

      Agreed. These team drafts are great and I hope they continue to flow.

  • @nickwogan5315
    @nickwogan5315 Рік тому +10

    that orcish bowmasters play was awesome

  • @RaymondTBK
    @RaymondTBK Рік тому +13

    Man, couldn't help thinking how good Toxic Deluge would have been in two of those matchups

  • @haximilian
    @haximilian Рік тому +47

    We should get a running tally of LSV's w/l ratio during these team drafts. It feels like he's running like 80% right now haha

    • @Mightypi
      @Mightypi Рік тому +8

      he keeps getting away with it, despite being assured, he would not

    • @Bear7747
      @Bear7747 Рік тому

      he probably only uploads the drafts where he does well in.

    • @Bear7747
      @Bear7747 Рік тому +1

      Iäm not saying that LSV isn't a good player. I think he is great. Just that there probably a point to uploading a draft where you get crushed in.

    • @LSVargas
      @LSVargas  Рік тому +25

      I do not do this - I upload every draft I record (at the very least, because I don’t want to waste my time recording things I don’t use). I’m just extremely good at cube draft and also running well.

    • @niklasthiman9583
      @niklasthiman9583 Рік тому +5

      It would also look wierd towards your fellow team drafters if LSV only uploaded the ones where he beats them and not vice versa. Feels like a given that he just uploads all of them.
      (Also we get more video uploads this way, so win win) ❤

  • @LucianDevine
    @LucianDevine Рік тому +2

    I appreciate you zooming in on the cards. I don't always know what they do, and often end up having to google them. While that is an option, I appreciate not having to do it when it's an option!

  • @MarylandBF
    @MarylandBF Рік тому +1

    This is really becoming an epidemic. Vintage cube drafts>Crack

  • @nekrataali
    @nekrataali Рік тому +1

    1:15:23
    "My hand is kinda bad, so Ancestral would have been kinda appealing."
    Take a shot every time LSV talks about Ancestral Recall like it's Serum Visions.

  • @Michael-Hammerschmidt
    @Michael-Hammerschmidt Рік тому +2

    I think this is my favorite deck you've drafted in Vintage Cube! Just everything I love about Magic, rolled into one deck

  • @ciaransidnell2174
    @ciaransidnell2174 Рік тому +3

    Huge vintage cube enjoyer and these videos outside of cube season are an amazing way to stratch that itch, thanks so much for the content.
    No idea to the practicality or what your relationship is like with folks like Matt Grenier and Jackson Wagner (frequent trophy race grind streamers and cube lovers), but would be very cool to see team drafts against them/their group. They typically approach cube quite differently to you, so the contrast of styles and evaluations would be interesting to see clash in a pod draft. Just an idea

  • @Jules-vf1zq
    @Jules-vf1zq Рік тому +8

    Kaito dancing shadow looked really nice this draft. So many good things to bounce.

  • @ckjonestft
    @ckjonestft Рік тому +3

    Thanks for making these. Team vintage drafts are the most fun to watch!

  • @RDPoi
    @RDPoi Рік тому +1

    That Recall play against mono white was funny as hell, loved it

  • @pug_
    @pug_ Рік тому

    LSV these draft videos have become a staple in my life. I’ve swapped out podcasts for your draft videos at work, and they bring me so much joy!

  • @stephenglaeser7830
    @stephenglaeser7830 Рік тому +2

    Urza + Orb just kept backfiring lol

  • @Tzimisce25
    @Tzimisce25 Рік тому

    Thank you very much for zooming in the cards, so I can understand them better!

  • @mails65
    @mails65 Рік тому

    Bonus round?; Yes please! Love your work mr Louis, wish you the best

  • @Byzjim
    @Byzjim Рік тому +3

    I like how through these videos I have started rooted for sandydog and his progression away from mono white

  • @Luckingsworth
    @Luckingsworth Рік тому

    LSV was channeling some major Conley Woods energy in that M3G3. 5 life when your opponenent hasnt damaged you once 😂

  • @emperornapoleon6204
    @emperornapoleon6204 Рік тому +2

    We do not deserve LSV Vintage cube draft every day, and yet it’s here!!

  • @edh_alters7116
    @edh_alters7116 11 місяців тому

    Oh man 01:02:00 just love this magic play. I saw it too but thought it crazy, I am not alone lol

  • @voronovychda
    @voronovychda Рік тому

    Bonus round rub-ins are great! =) But jokes aside this is the best mtg content hands down, so thank you!

  • @mrhotbinjuice
    @mrhotbinjuice Рік тому

    god that bowmasters into ancestral opp play was JUICY

  • @LearnAndReflect
    @LearnAndReflect Рік тому +1

    @1:12:16 coulda grabbed vamp with Spellseeker, Vamp for Snap, draw off Kaito and Snap Time Walk. The game was 1000% over already but would been pretty deec. Coulda shoulda woulda ig

  • @josiahtoole4376
    @josiahtoole4376 Рік тому

    That play with Ancestral was just *chef’s kiss* 🤌

  • @jairomy
    @jairomy Рік тому +1

    Awesome deck. I wouldn't have played the Ragavan imo.

  • @goldcobraarima9819
    @goldcobraarima9819 Рік тому +2

    Ah, I love Vintage Cube Draft

  • @askehansen8620
    @askehansen8620 Рік тому +1

    I think the camera placement is really good doing the draft. If all the cards are layed out by mana cost only, you wouldn't miss any of cards, but I really like your sorting system. The new zoom feature is really good, specially when watching the video on the phone. Probably the best mtgo game play to read, when watching on the phone. Overall really enjoy the the daily videos and hope you can keep it up. PS I really enjoy the Alphafrog stream and hope the are more to come. It made it feel like it was a tournament. I am from Denmark and had to was VOD. I would really enjoy it if they got oploaded to YT.

  • @Luckingsworth
    @Luckingsworth Рік тому

    A cool line around 1:12:38 you could have Spellseekered for vamp, Vamp for Snapcaster, drew, and then Snappied Time Walk.

  • @naphackDT
    @naphackDT Рік тому +1

    Ragavan is very ambitious in this deck.

  • @oldmanmucsi527
    @oldmanmucsi527 Рік тому

    I like being able to see the cards.

  • @Mrsierramist1
    @Mrsierramist1 Рік тому

    I like zooming in on cards. It will help a lot, especially when drafting newer sets.

  • @jccusell
    @jccusell Рік тому +1

    Ragavan being a house. MVP.

  • @outcastorange
    @outcastorange Рік тому

    All this LSV content in my feed lately - I feel so spoiled for choice!

  • @sanninrips
    @sanninrips 5 місяців тому

    Damn son! That bonus round 😮

  • @christopherpepin1880
    @christopherpepin1880 Рік тому +2

    Best magic content.

  • @jackdickinson4937
    @jackdickinson4937 10 місяців тому

    12:27 hits differently two months in the future

    • @jamesgreenwood1703
      @jamesgreenwood1703 10 місяців тому

      Came here looking for this… I was like who the fuck is this guy and what happened to LSV

  • @nottoday9098
    @nottoday9098 Рік тому

    Thats why we call him the real LSV

  • @galactusbryant
    @galactusbryant Рік тому

    These vintage drafts are the best.

  • @gragrim
    @gragrim Рік тому

    LSV thinking outsidr the box yet again! Awesome plays

  • @oblivion45602
    @oblivion45602 Рік тому

    The hyperlink takes us to a list that, uhh, has doubles of almost every card.

  • @ndeifel
    @ndeifel Рік тому +1

    I love watching Cube drafts, so glad to have this when MTGO is not in season. Any chance you can invite BennyHillz to one of these? He's one of my favorites.

  • @CullingCrimson.
    @CullingCrimson. Рік тому +1

    Bonus (slaughter) round

  • @judeloire1522
    @judeloire1522 Рік тому +1

    This deck! WOW just... WOW that is an absolutely insane draft deck. Probably the best drafted deck I have ever seen.

    • @UnuUO
      @UnuUO Рік тому +1

      he’s def had better decks in the normal vintage cube videos but yeah this is probs the best team cube deck so far

    • @sjake8308
      @sjake8308 Рік тому

      It's hard to get a deck that good in team draft, though opening two of the best four cards in the cube does help!

  • @joshdavis6830
    @joshdavis6830 Рік тому

    LSV, you are probably the best drafter in the world. Probably

  • @TRTSMTT
    @TRTSMTT Рік тому

    As Caleb Gannon always says: if you want to draft for win. just go mono white in vintage cube. It's always open.

    • @LSVargas
      @LSVargas  Рік тому +3

      Agree in 8player drafts, team drafts are quite a bit more complicated

  • @Jermo484
    @Jermo484 Рік тому

    That Ancestral them with Bowmasters play was a chef's kiss play. Bowmaster is such a busted card.

  • @Jchmcom
    @Jchmcom Рік тому

    1:01:30 That man had a family. And you killed them all. >:(

  • @brownunderwear9855
    @brownunderwear9855 Рік тому

    these drafts continue to be awesome

  • @joelstephenson
    @joelstephenson Рік тому

    Haven't watched this yet, but thanks for all the vids

  • @ultimateo621
    @ultimateo621 Рік тому

    I must admit. I did not believe there would be an opportunity where it was correct to ancestral the opponent with bowmasters in this draft. Wow

  • @thomaskauffman250
    @thomaskauffman250 Рік тому

    With oppo having a portal out i would have been really tempted to get an orcish Bowmaster with the tutor

  • @Lukester44
    @Lukester44 Рік тому +1

    I think playing the ragavan was a little sus 😂

  • @larsice9
    @larsice9 Рік тому +1

    More 4v4 Vintage, NICE!

  • @christianstrothjohann3603
    @christianstrothjohann3603 Рік тому

    Great commentary!

  • @Dimpl739
    @Dimpl739 Рік тому +1

    Was ragavan definitely worth playing? I feel like channeler would be a lot more consistent off so little red

  • @gregbartlett851
    @gregbartlett851 Рік тому +1

    I don't know if you want input on this. I love the cube team drafts, and I think I enjoy watching the 8 player drafts more because there are just more total cards seen, which is more fun in my opinion.
    Either way, thanks for the content

  • @codetaku
    @codetaku Рік тому

    1:10:07 smh can't even remember to use urza's ability for blue mana without paying life :P You only have to still pay for black mana!

    • @codetaku
      @codetaku Рік тому

      You caught yourself sacrificing the treasure later, at least :P

  • @harbhub
    @harbhub Рік тому +1

    More bonus rounds in 8 player drafts please!

  • @FusicEditz7
    @FusicEditz7 Рік тому

    As someone who knows what 99% of the cards in vintage cube do zooming isn’t super helpful but for some less knowledgeable players I can see it being helpful

  • @Blyf
    @Blyf Рік тому

    Love these draft vids.
    Curious about retrofitter foundry. Lsv is high on it and I've heard similar from others, but have never seen it be good? Just seems so mana inefficient for vintage cube

  • @urirose3671
    @urirose3671 Рік тому

    Amazing as always

  • @tonyontilt3522
    @tonyontilt3522 9 місяців тому

    Omg! If you were in green! 😅

  • @ChannoBonanno
    @ChannoBonanno Рік тому +1

    25:48 audio was ok, man. No worries.

    • @sjake8308
      @sjake8308 Рік тому

      Yeah, LSV actually made it worse by turning it down! XD

  • @brothertobias
    @brothertobias Рік тому

    I absolutely love the content

  • @spyral71
    @spyral71 Рік тому

    Was there any merit to siding out Titan for Wurm against the Green deck? Just curious.

  • @mattthompson6557
    @mattthompson6557 Рік тому

    The ragavan and winter orb were a little too greedy but really nice deck i enjoyed watching

    • @sjake8308
      @sjake8308 Рік тому

      I thought the Winter Orb was perfectly fine, but I agree that the Ragavan was pretty sketchy: The mana didn't really support it being cast on turn 1 and it's a much less powerful card if you're casting on, say, turn 5.

  • @wtsnoot
    @wtsnoot Рік тому

    That ancestral recall the opponent play was beautiful - pity it didn't result in a win. Whenever ragavan was in your hand it felt like it would have been better as anything else. Do you think you'd still play it if you were to build the deck again? edit: Shouldn't have asked this before I watched the bonus round where you actually commented on it... In my defense I thought the draft had finished when I asked about it.

  • @matthewwhiteside4619
    @matthewwhiteside4619 Рік тому

    Hey LSV, you've said before you don't think initiative should be in cube, has your opinion changed, were you outvoted, or did that only apply to the Vintage cube because it's public and could be played by beginners?

  • @spooky_zen
    @spooky_zen Рік тому

    this cube is interesting, ive only played arena not familar with some of these cards or their strats

    • @giancarlocafaro6734
      @giancarlocafaro6734 Рік тому

      This cube is probably the highest form of magic. Such a beautiful experience. Literally all of the best cards ever printed all going against each other. Peak magic.

  • @albertorozco3652
    @albertorozco3652 Місяць тому

    Do you have any videos explaining what a cube is and how to play it online ? Thank you in advance

  • @georgeresso6835
    @georgeresso6835 Рік тому

    fear the T1 inspector...so busted!

  • @roarmalf
    @roarmalf Рік тому

    As soon as you got ancestral I thought you might, then you grinned and I knew you were locked in.

  • @sobman
    @sobman Рік тому

    Any chance we could get the camera in the top right and the ultimate logo in the bottom right? you can see through the logo. it comes up almost every video where the camera hides cards. certainly does that for the drafting portion of the video.

  • @vanwright7821
    @vanwright7821 Рік тому +1

    The best content

  • @maxagnewalhagen1152
    @maxagnewalhagen1152 Рік тому

    Good stuff

  • @angrybroccoli9409
    @angrybroccoli9409 Рік тому +1

    I see new LSV cube draft, I call my boss to let her know I’m going to be late. It’s that simple. 🤷‍♂️

  • @dakotaginn2267
    @dakotaginn2267 Рік тому

    Just curious what was the reasoning in the first game on Mind Twisting instead of casting grief and then mind twisting for one more the next turn?

  • @NeoSamurai13
    @NeoSamurai13 Рік тому

    In terms of video stuff, I think showing the cards is a big help. If you ever decide to edit the videos more, it might be worth it to have a section of the screen that is your facecam, the ultimate guard watermark, and a larger version of the cards that are most relevant, but I know that is much more work for you, so don’t feel you have to. One change that would be really nice is if you can find away to keep your mic from blowing out when you sigh as that is kind of unpleasant to hear.

  • @ContainsIt
    @ContainsIt Рік тому

    Every single LSV draw is either the absolute nuts top deck or the absolute worst possible card for that specific moment, no in between.

  • @twitchster77
    @twitchster77 Рік тому

    I absolutely can't believe he didn't draft green here!

  • @Zosh_
    @Zosh_ Рік тому +1

    How does team draft works?

  • @jordangonzalez6528
    @jordangonzalez6528 Рік тому

    What program is that you're playing with

  • @peeporiot9948
    @peeporiot9948 Рік тому

    Big fan of the zoom on the cards. Being able to read the text on the cards that are helps me understand your reasoning for picking them

  • @aronb.1273
    @aronb.1273 Рік тому

    Someone tell LSV that you can't force of negation on your own turn 😅!

  • @alexcaffri9091
    @alexcaffri9091 10 місяців тому

    ive seen you pass a pack 1 gaea's cradle so many times i actually wanna know if youd ever p1p1 it

  • @cyruslyday9112
    @cyruslyday9112 Рік тому

    Around 56:00 what are the thoughts on spellseeker for ancestral, mind twist for 0 to ledger shredder then you get to go into the next turn with ancestral instead of Bowmasters?

    • @cyruslyday9112
      @cyruslyday9112 Рік тому

      Setting up to ancestral your opponent is wild and not something I'd ever be confident in mapping out through double mom from that point hahahaha

  • @tordox1607
    @tordox1607 Рік тому

    The linked cubelist seems bugged. Al cards seem to be added twice.

  • @KLSMTG
    @KLSMTG Рік тому

    Love it

  • @alexullrich7502
    @alexullrich7502 Рік тому

    01:05 better lucky than good right? I hate tô see it...

  • @Sketchymage
    @Sketchymage Рік тому

    How do you play drafts like this when vintage cube isn't around?

    • @sjake8308
      @sjake8308 Рік тому +1

      They draft the decks using Draftmancer and the import the drafts into MTGO as freeform decks.

  • @TheCrAzYfox2332
    @TheCrAzYfox2332 Рік тому

    13:25 my man really said "this whole pack wheeled???"

  • @parkcollie-zd6jo
    @parkcollie-zd6jo Рік тому +1

    Noice