I'm actually kind of noticing a trend in the sense that a lot of people who can't stand or at the very least find the weight of e-bike off putting have grown up on BMX and / or MTB's, where people who prefer the weight and feel of an EMTB have or still rides motorbikes. They are absolutely a different feel to them, especially as you said where you feel that the bike is doing it's own thing and takes a lot more effort to get to do your own thing on jumps, but then the guys who like the feel of them in the air often say it's because they find it more stable for the same reason it puts you off. Personally I can't jump well enough to give my opinion on whether it's a good or bad thing, but when I have gone to Stenner I actually find my EMTB easier to jump than my Norco DJ and the analogue bike I borrowed off a mate a few times, maybe because it feels less nervous and more 'straight lines' the jump. I don't know and I'm not going to pretend to be good enough to tell. That's a heffer of a bike though, I did ride that same bike (Medium 875 Lite) at Johnnys the other day and was a bit surprised to find it didn't feel like a complete heffer to ride in the carpark, but yeh 26kg is getting right up there. Good video though man.
Yeah dude I’ve had a few moto dudes say the same, a couple has also said if you’re going nose on a moto you can correct it easily with the throttle, which is something you can’t do on a eeeb I don’t mind the e-bikes, I’ll be riding one when I’m limited on time in nz haha see how the trek rail goes 😅
@JohnnyThe_G yeh that's a big reason I have had trouble getting my head around jumping. On a motorbike you can adjust pitch with throttle and brake; on an MTB very different story if it gets away from you. You at least have a better chance on a non-emtb, to make adjustments after the fact, where an emtb is a lot more inertia to deal with. Honestly I felt way safer jumping my emtb than a normal bike, but as someone who has been riding and jumping a lot longer I would see why it's unnerving suddenly going to something that heavy that needs a lot more coercion. Personally my commitment levels to jumping are....timid at best lol
You are so right when you say it puts people on trails that shouldn't be on them. I was at Daisy Hill one time and came across this huge guy riding a Thok ebike. He had come off on chipline and busted his knee. The bike was so heavy 30kg we could barely pick it up off the ground. Waited 3 hours for specialist ambos and firemen to get him out. I know its a demo ride i follow you because you are an amazing rider and care about fitness and wouldn't go to the dark side 😅
I'm actually kind of noticing a trend in the sense that a lot of people who can't stand or at the very least find the weight of e-bike off putting have grown up on BMX and / or MTB's, where people who prefer the weight and feel of an EMTB have or still rides motorbikes. They are absolutely a different feel to them, especially as you said where you feel that the bike is doing it's own thing and takes a lot more effort to get to do your own thing on jumps, but then the guys who like the feel of them in the air often say it's because they find it more stable for the same reason it puts you off.
Personally I can't jump well enough to give my opinion on whether it's a good or bad thing, but when I have gone to Stenner I actually find my EMTB easier to jump than my Norco DJ and the analogue bike I borrowed off a mate a few times, maybe because it feels less nervous and more 'straight lines' the jump. I don't know and I'm not going to pretend to be good enough to tell.
That's a heffer of a bike though, I did ride that same bike (Medium 875 Lite) at Johnnys the other day and was a bit surprised to find it didn't feel like a complete heffer to ride in the carpark, but yeh 26kg is getting right up there.
Good video though man.
Yeah dude I’ve had a few moto dudes say the same, a couple has also said if you’re going nose on a moto you can correct it easily with the throttle, which is something you can’t do on a eeeb
I don’t mind the e-bikes, I’ll be riding one when I’m limited on time in nz haha see how the trek rail goes 😅
@JohnnyThe_G yeh that's a big reason I have had trouble getting my head around jumping. On a motorbike you can adjust pitch with throttle and brake; on an MTB very different story if it gets away from you.
You at least have a better chance on a non-emtb, to make adjustments after the fact, where an emtb is a lot more inertia to deal with.
Honestly I felt way safer jumping my emtb than a normal bike, but as someone who has been riding and jumping a lot longer I would see why it's unnerving suddenly going to something that heavy that needs a lot more coercion.
Personally my commitment levels to jumping are....timid at best lol
I’ve always wondered what these would be like. Merida being on the cheaper side of things makes me wonder the quality. Sick video!!
Merida is close to as good as norcos dude so it’s all good 👌
@@JohnnyThe_Greally? I didn’t even know that 😂😂😂
@@FISHYY_MTB yeah dude! haha
They are not the same company 😂
They are imported by the same company in Australia 😅
So you’re telling me they aren’t the same parent company???
You can ride with mad dog JBJ again now
was just a demo dude hahah
You are so right when you say it puts people on trails that shouldn't be on them. I was at Daisy Hill one time and came across this huge guy riding a Thok ebike. He had come off on chipline and busted his knee. The bike was so heavy 30kg we could barely pick it up off the ground. Waited 3 hours for specialist ambos and firemen to get him out. I know its a demo ride i follow you because you are an amazing rider and care about fitness and wouldn't go to the dark side 😅
100% won’t be joining the dark side fully hahaha
That’s wild! And there’s so many stories just like this!
Whatever- the dark side is fun. Shit happens on regular bikes too.
That buzzing from motor is so annoying.
Yeah I couldn’t tolerate it every ride haha