Today I show you a bit more detail on the custom Barracuda Torque Boxes @UncleTonysGarage #utg # mopar #plymouth #2hacksgarage #musclecar #musclecars
I could use a set of those box plates you formed up for my Duster . You should produce them for customers to purchase . Those mated with the US Car Tool frame connectors and that would make a hell of a stiff chassis .
great video Kiwi...!...thanks...!..u make it look so easy...!..i know thats years of experance ..& hundreds of torque box's show'n...!....i agree..for the price...u cant beat H.F....4 most stuff...!...thanks again ...!...frame connectors next...?
The "design" of a fabricated piece always seems to take me longer than actually making it. There have been times when I've gone through several sheets of poster board to get my idea just right. I was looking at one of those nibblers today but didn't pull the trigger on it. For now at least, my variable speed, orbital jig saw works just fine. I have finally invested in a small brake for my projects after many years of clamping a couple pieces of angle iron into a 6" vise. If I'd known how much easier it makes things, I would've bought one years ago! It's only an 18" brake but, that's plenty wide for my needs. Next investment, hopefully, will be a bead roller.
Fantastic job again. Maybe you could do an episode on just CAD. Cardboard assisted design. Yes I give credit to another commentary with the clever CAD term. But you have a segment of an episode on the different uses of cardboard. Homemade axle gaskets. Creative automotive creeper, you know laying on cardboard and sliding under a car truck. Leak locator by sliding the cardboard under your vehicle and helping to protect the floor beneath your car. Etc etc thanks again
So was Kev watching you working the brake so as to learn how to do it himself, or was he simply keeping the welder from floating away? Having learned a little bit about his work ethic I'm not sure which it is 😉
Kiwi, those custom torque boxes need to be reproduced, then used to create tooling to make them in quantity. They’ll sell like hot cakes, no joke! And nicely done sir, as always. Nice to see a craftsman care about his craft
Good job, having my own brake is on my tool bucket list for sure! Was thinking until then I might be able to fab a brake attachment to bolt onto my Bridgeport table using the T-slots and hold down clamps? Or maybe good enough to just bolt in the slots with T-nuts with a little more fab work? Good stuff, the more detailed the better.
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 Yes, but using a brake is so much funner. I really miss the hydraulic one I had access to when I use to do sheet metal prototype, got me spoiled. In a pinch I have used a couple 2x4s and a couple sets of c-clamps before but a brake is so much less dicking around.
Hi Kiwi, Been loving what UTG shows of your work. Just sub'd and watched these tourqe box vids. Question:- VJ Charger,,,, i will be putting a hot 360ci in it, will definitely do this improved boxes however is there any gain (pro's/cons/waist of time) in adding a cro molly tube in the sill to further tie in the uni body. (An idea i had many moons before i started watching UA-cam and seen what BOM did on the mini they built.) Would love to hear your thoughts on this. Kind regards, Nato.
Hi Kiwi , Iv'e been thinking about stiffening my VH Valiant with sub frame connectors, but now have seen the torque box modifications you do , and, in a prior video I got the impression that you thought the torque box side of things is all thats necessary? . I'll put it this way , when I used to use the bumper jack (I use a floor jack now ) on the front , it showed the flex in the frame by the front doors binding on the door catch , so, I'd like to stiffen it enough to eliminate that flex . So, Im wondering , would torque box strengthening be enough? , or connectors as well ? . I don't think Iv'e noticed the same amount of flex with my smaller A bodies. I,d like it if the NZ certification people didnt have to be involved with these mods ???.
Bend metal in roofing business....might be easier make template out of thin stock then move to thicker metal....I know everyone a critic....good job kiwi
Got Green cards back in 08, moved to Austin TX. Wife got offered a great job here in Nashville in 2011 so we followed the money here ! Opened the shop and the rest is history. Personally I've always been into old American cars since I was a kid. Worked on them all my life and picked up a few tricks along the way😉
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 cool! I saw a neat setup that went from the rear leaf spring mounts all the way through the torsion bar cross member. They also used a roller setup in place of the rear shackles on the leaf springs. Looked pretty cool, but I have no idea how effective any of it really is, or the level of maintenance needed for the spring rollers. I'll be following along on your videos.
I've been using CAD for years! (Cardboard Aided Design)
😆I have heard it called SWAG as well, scientific wild ass guess
Both good ones fellas! I'll have to remember them!
So simple, yet it's easy to see how that adds a lot of strength to that part of the unibody.
It sure does!
Good stuff Kiwi! This car is going to be beast when you're done with it. I never get tired of watching you work that sheet metal magic. 😎
Thanks man!!
Man, I love watching you work and how you you just see things and come up with a solution. You inspire me, good sir!
Thanks man, glad your enjoying the channel!
Impressive Craftsmanship by You Again Kiwi.
Ingenious thinking likewise.
Thanks man
Ty for the Visual learning Aid Sir , 👍Bet the guys on Power Nation miss yah 😎
Custom Fabrication. 😊 thank you Kiwi. I built new custom work truck bodies for 25 years before getting laid off in 2020. I miss it.
Experienced fabricators are hard to find man.
I could use a set of those box plates you formed up for my Duster . You should produce them for customers to purchase . Those mated with the US Car Tool frame connectors and that would make a hell of a stiff chassis .
You can't beat using CAD (cardboard aided design)
great video Kiwi...!...thanks...!..u make it look so easy...!..i know thats years of experance ..& hundreds of torque box's show'n...!....i agree..for the price...u cant beat H.F....4 most stuff...!...thanks again ...!...frame connectors next...?
All in good time😬
like the idea of marking both side to start with! great tip!
Those are great and simple! I will make fronts & rears for my B-Body. Thanks!
Happy it was helpful 👍
The "design" of a fabricated piece always seems to take me longer than actually making it. There have been times when I've gone through several sheets of poster board to get my idea just right.
I was looking at one of those nibblers today but didn't pull the trigger on it. For now at least, my variable speed, orbital jig saw works just fine.
I have finally invested in a small brake for my projects after many years of clamping a couple pieces of angle iron into a 6" vise. If I'd known how much easier it makes things, I would've bought one years ago! It's only an 18" brake but, that's plenty wide for my needs. Next investment, hopefully, will be a bead roller.
You won't regret buying either
Measure twice, cut once 👍👍😎
Fantastic job again. Maybe you could do an episode on just CAD. Cardboard assisted design. Yes I give credit to another commentary with the clever CAD term. But you have a segment of an episode on the different uses of cardboard. Homemade axle gaskets. Creative automotive creeper, you know laying on cardboard and sliding under a car truck. Leak locator by sliding the cardboard under your vehicle and helping to protect the floor beneath your car. Etc etc thanks again
I've seen high dollar Mopar shops stuff BBM into 6 cyl and 318 A bodies with NO torque boxes. Ouch😲😲
So was Kev watching you working the brake so as to learn how to do it himself, or was he simply keeping the welder from floating away? Having learned a little bit about his work ethic I'm not sure which it is 😉
Definitely holding the welder down😁
I really enjoy these sheet metal projects. :)
Glad your enjoying
Nice job there Kiwi, you make it look easy mate.
It's like brain surgery mate... easy when know how😀🤣
Really great 👍 I would wreck my part by bending the wrong way. So now I always mark whether I'm bending a section up or down!
I'd like to say I've never done that I'm pretty sure there are witness'
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 hahaha 😂
Put an x on the side you want to fold up.
@@georgemooyman7155 that's easier than my way!
Kiwi, those custom torque boxes need to be reproduced, then used to create tooling to make them in quantity. They’ll sell like hot cakes, no joke! And nicely done sir, as always. Nice to see a craftsman care about his craft
They are available.
👍💪
Good job, having my own brake is on my tool bucket list for sure! Was thinking until then I might be able to fab a brake attachment to bolt onto my Bridgeport table using the T-slots and hold down clamps? Or maybe good enough to just bolt in the slots with T-nuts with a little more fab work?
Good stuff, the more detailed the better.
A couple of 3ft lengths of 3x3" angle iron in a good vice will get a lot of the smaller stuff done
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160
Yes, but using a brake is so much funner. I really miss the hydraulic one I had access to when I use to do sheet metal prototype, got me spoiled. In a pinch I have used a couple 2x4s and a couple sets of c-clamps before but a brake is so much less dicking around.
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Great tutorial! Save those cereal and snack food boxes for templares.
Of course!!😁
Hi Kiwi,
Been loving what UTG shows of your work. Just sub'd and watched these tourqe box vids.
Question:- VJ Charger,,,, i will be putting a hot 360ci in it, will definitely do this improved boxes however is there any gain (pro's/cons/waist of time) in adding a cro molly tube in the sill to further tie in the uni body.
(An idea i had many moons before i started watching UA-cam and seen what BOM did on the mini they built.)
Would love to hear your thoughts on this.
Kind regards, Nato.
The rockers are pretty stout. Subframe connectors will do more to stiffen these old Mopars. I'll be doing them on the barracuda in an upcoming video !
Building better torque boxes than Chrysler lol!
😁tryin to! Thanks for watching!
Thanks Kiwi. Got the feeling you could do that in ya sleep.
Just about😁
Hi Kiwi , Iv'e been thinking about stiffening my VH Valiant with sub frame connectors, but now have seen the torque box modifications you do , and, in a prior video I got the impression that you thought the torque box side of things is all thats necessary? . I'll put it this way , when I used to use the bumper jack (I use a floor jack now ) on the front , it showed the flex in the frame by the front doors binding on the door catch , so, I'd like to stiffen it enough to eliminate that flex . So, Im wondering , would torque box strengthening be enough? , or connectors as well ? . I don't think Iv'e noticed the same amount of flex with my smaller A bodies. I,d like it if the NZ certification people didnt have to be involved with these mods ???.
MUSCLE Car Master KIWI!!!
I need you doing metal work on my 66 chevelle
Bring it over!
I was wondering, when these torque boxes are welded under the car, are they already painted on the inside to keep them from rusting?
Yes they will be and the cavity waxed once welded in.
Bend metal in roofing business....might be easier make template out of thin stock then move to thicker metal....I know everyone a critic....good job kiwi
i need a break like that
Super curious how you came from New Zealand and ended up in middle Tennessee working on classic American cars?
He came to get closer to where I was...so he could steal my precious secrets
Damn you figured me out 😁😃
Got Green cards back in 08, moved to Austin TX. Wife got offered a great job here in Nashville in 2011 so we followed the money here ! Opened the shop and the rest is history. Personally I've always been into old American cars since I was a kid. Worked on them all my life and picked up a few tricks along the way😉
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160
Thank you for the short explanation Kiwi!
👍👍🙂🇨🇦
Great stuff! Do you see any advantage to adding subframe connectors?
Was wondering that same
Yea there is for sure. That's next on the list!!😁
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 cool! I saw a neat setup that went from the rear leaf spring mounts all the way through the torsion bar cross member. They also used a roller setup in place of the rear shackles on the leaf springs. Looked pretty cool, but I have no idea how effective any of it really is, or the level of maintenance needed for the spring rollers. I'll be following along on your videos.
I have come across bull shit lieing toe tags who have used putty and mud to Fix a torque Box very important to a cars handling