Holy sh**, that is massive lean angle and grip… yeah I am not goin that hard haha. I do love the tires though, they’ve really held up and provided great feel. I can’t wait to ride again!
What is the technical explanation between the quickshifter and a slightly dirty chain, as shown in the video? A little dirt on the chain guide and on the pinion is perfectly normal and should not be viewed as critical. The dirt only collects where the chain does not touch the dirty areas. Where dirt is picked up, it is also thrown off again. A modern O-ring chain does not require much maintenance. What is described as critical here is, in my opinion, exaggerated. The chain sounds different after cleaning with the cleaning spray because the grease has been removed and diluted. After greasing, the grease is still thin. This is why the chain runs more easily. After a few hours, the grease is viscous again and has more resistance. That is the reason for the different sound and less resistance. I own a Husqy Norden 901 which is pretty much identical to the KTM 790/ 890. Despite many dusty roads, the quickshifter and the chain have been working for 25,000km to date.
Nice video Sir! I have some tips and tricks with the chain, guards, and shifter rod. Chain, and chain guards: If you are cheap :) you can clean the chain with Diesel. It is a very good solvent and it is a light lube. Did not damage the O or X-ring between the chain linkages, and did not flush out the factory grease between the chain rollers (where the O-X ring seals it). Downside it is smelly. For every chain lube, I always take off the chain guards and clean them with a rag and brake cleaner. I clean the chain guide and around the small sprocket wheel also (you can use a plastic care product on the inside of the covers, it helps to clean it for the next time). Shift linkage: if you use a thread locker, always clean the bolt and the bore before with brake cleaner and with a soft brush, like a brass brush. If you like you can use a thread chaser in the bore. ALSO, you should clean the small spherical bearing with brake cleaner. Thread locker can go inside if you use it plenty and gums up the bearing making shifting hard (do not ask how I know :) ). And you always use the chain lube INSIDE of the chain, not on the outside :) . Some chain lube says you should wait like 30 min or more before you ride, to let the chain lube "cure" on the chain. Most of them use some kind of solvent that needs to evaporate. I am using Motorex Chainlube racing (with PTFE)
So great to see you on the channel, Sir! I’ve found your videos as well and have really appreciated them. That is an impressively thorough list of tips and I had absolutely no idea about diesel’s use. Also, not to worry the lube application didn’t end after the poorly composed two second clip in the video and I got those o-rings nice and lubed up with plenty of time to outgas the solvent. This one was more to bring the amount of gunk I found on my bikes guides to others’ attention as I bought the bike from someone who was not at all mechanically inclined right after the warranty ended and his wife made him sell it (sadness)! I really appreciate you helping spread this knowledge and I know you’ve got plenty more where that come from. Please feel free to share with the 890 community here anytime!
Excellent stuff as always, I love these vids on basic maintenance not because it's hard but it's nice to watch a walkthrough before doing it for the first time 👍
Well, got a video coming up to share but unfortunately it looks like my summer riding season is a bust and I’ll be needing surgery soon. I am getting an MRI here early next week… so not the greatest news and I’ve really been trying to stay optimistic. Overall I’ll get healthy again in time to get that sweet fall riding in and I’ll have an even more modded bike to get back on. I may or may not have pulled the trigger on a full exhaust setup and will definitely share my tuning plan soon. Shit can slow me down but I’ll power through it eventually 😂
These are really helpful videos. I’ve owned my 890r for a year now and have always missed that step when cleaning the chain.. not any more though. Thank you. Every time I watch a bike review and the person comments on how buttery smooth the quick shifter is on whatever bike it happens to be, it prompts a tad of anxiety that my 890r historically hasn’t always been as smooth. More often than not being agricultural/clunky, thinking I’m having to put too much effort into something called a “quick shifter”😒… I know life sucks, whoa is me, poor poor KTM Super Scalpel 890 Duke R owner…😂
Oh my goodness, the 890R quickshift anxiety is an actual thing… I feel it too lol. Before my soccer injury I was dialing mine in pretty good and this series was made to share it. Other will have to help me determine if the outcome is the same on their bike too because I won’t be riding again until fall unfortunately. Life is still good though and I’ve not only got plenty of 890 content already shot but some more mods on the way as well 😎
Hey there I also have a 890R, i also had the problem with a squeaking chain. I had to lubricate it every 200-400km, it was just a mess lubricant everywhere Rims etcetera. I finnaly bought a CLS (Cain Lube Systems) automatic Chain Oiling System. It works great the bike is so much cleaner and the best, you dont have to manually lube your chain anymore.
Wow… that’s quite a lot of lubrication. What kind of conditions do you typically ride in? I’ve never heard of a CLS before I’m going to have to read more about it.
Upon reinstalling the shifter arm after removing it for cleaning (0:47s in the video) my shifts seem clunky and dont want to go into first. Any suggestions? Thank you !!!
Hmmm, removing the arm shouldn’t have affected any of the geometry of the shifter. Did your capture bolt on the threads of the shift arm loosen? If that length varies at all you’ll get a different shift experience. When you reinstall is the shift arm sensor and the actual shifter sensors lining up? If not I would loosen that capture bolt and either lengthen or shorten the shift arm until the sensors are lining up, tighten everything down, and take it for a ride to test again.
Plastic Covers, especially the one of the front sprocket, can have holes opened thus allow for instant inspection and facilitate access of cleaners and lubricants.
Is the Duke's chain a bit inferior in quality? i think i saw that somewhere, maybe a new gold DID chain and sprocket kit? also parafin is what i have always used for cleaning chains, very non aggressive and does a great job..ps I ordered my 890r on the 30th march here in UK..still no show
Yeah, the chain is certainly not up to par with the rest of the higher end kit on the bike such as the brakes. I was thinking of the same, the bike is pretty high strung for something without wind protection. I see myself testing different gearings eventually. With a consistent care routine the chain is tolerable for now! Hope the videos help you in your ownership, let me know if you want to see a specific video about something when yours gets here!
I’m new to the 890r duke. Just have one ride on mine so far. But was also having issues with the quick shifter going from 2nd to 3rd. After searching the web. It’s looking like it might be caused by the dealers not checking or adjusting the chain before it gets delivered to the customer. Will have to check it before my next ride. Adjusting the chain to tight can cause several issues. Binding the suspension up, stretching of the chain causing loose and tight spots, premature wear on the sprockets, bearing and seals. And now causing issues with the quick shifter. Better to have the chain on the loose side but not so loose that the chain could derail.
Awesome! Welcome to the channel btw. So a couple things to consider. You should be able to browse into the menu via the instructions on page 101 section 17.16.30 here: ownersmanuals2.com/d/79580. You should then be able to toggle it on and off if it’s active. Also you should not go over 6,500 RPM or be pushing the engine until at least 600 miles for the break in period per the manual as well. You’re going to love the bike! Congratulations!
@@jesusamaroreyes4269 Of course, you let me know what else you’d like to see. There’s so much I’ve been working on and I want to make sure we can get everyone’s questions answered. No thank God, I was playing soccer and it snapped (went off like a gunshot). I am now doing extremely well and can’t wait to roll everything out soon! It’s so much more work now but it’s slowly getting easier
Totally right, angle of the camera wasn’t the best and the two second clip wasn’t the entire process this one was more to bring the chain guide gunk to everyone’s attention, I appreciate you!
There’s been no big recalls or remarks of premature failure on the forums. As this is very similar to the 790 LC8 engine you could also look into overall 790 reliability. Overall, not too much to worry about from that perspective. Is there any specific component or aspect you’re most concerned about
I want to get a Duke 890 R and found one with 2K miles, cruise control, heated grips, ergo seat for $10,795. Now dealing with KTM warranty for condensation in TFT in my 390 Adventure . One rep said it should be covered, called again a week later and was told by another rep that condensation in tft most likely will not be covered. I expressed my issues with build quality on my KTM. Not happy with his response. If my claim is denied, I will never buy a KTM again. If I buy something I expect to last with normal use and following maintenance schedule. Don’t have the patience to deal with warranty claims and quality issues arising from normal use especially with such low mileage.
I understand, definitely not a method for those uncomfortable with the proximity. To note the bike is off and the only propulsion is my own hand on the wheel!
Thanks again! The S22's are amazing tires. lol, a KTM test rider was scraping the handlebars, that's why they chose them for the SMC R!
Holy sh**, that is massive lean angle and grip… yeah I am not goin that hard haha. I do love the tires though, they’ve really held up and provided great feel. I can’t wait to ride again!
What is the technical explanation between the quickshifter and a slightly dirty chain, as shown in the video? A little dirt on the chain guide and on the pinion is perfectly normal and should not be viewed as critical. The dirt only collects where the chain does not touch the dirty areas. Where dirt is picked up, it is also thrown off again. A modern O-ring chain does not require much maintenance. What is described as critical here is, in my opinion, exaggerated. The chain sounds different after cleaning with the cleaning spray because the grease has been removed and diluted. After greasing, the grease is still thin. This is why the chain runs more easily. After a few hours, the grease is viscous again and has more resistance. That is the reason for the different sound and less resistance. I own a Husqy Norden 901 which is pretty much identical to the KTM 790/ 890. Despite many dusty roads, the quickshifter and the chain have been working for 25,000km to date.
Nice video Sir! I have some tips and tricks with the chain, guards, and shifter rod. Chain, and chain guards: If you are cheap :) you can clean the chain with Diesel. It is a very good solvent and it is a light lube. Did not damage the O or X-ring between the chain linkages, and did not flush out the factory grease between the chain rollers (where the O-X ring seals it). Downside it is smelly. For every chain lube, I always take off the chain guards and clean them with a rag and brake cleaner. I clean the chain guide and around the small sprocket wheel also (you can use a plastic care product on the inside of the covers, it helps to clean it for the next time). Shift linkage: if you use a thread locker, always clean the bolt and the bore before with brake cleaner and with a soft brush, like a brass brush. If you like you can use a thread chaser in the bore. ALSO, you should clean the small spherical bearing with brake cleaner. Thread locker can go inside if you use it plenty and gums up the bearing making shifting hard (do not ask how I know :) ). And you always use the chain lube INSIDE of the chain, not on the outside :) . Some chain lube says you should wait like 30 min or more before you ride, to let the chain lube "cure" on the chain. Most of them use some kind of solvent that needs to evaporate. I am using Motorex Chainlube racing (with PTFE)
So great to see you on the channel, Sir! I’ve found your videos as well and have really appreciated them. That is an impressively thorough list of tips and I had absolutely no idea about diesel’s use. Also, not to worry the lube application didn’t end after the poorly composed two second clip in the video and I got those o-rings nice and lubed up with plenty of time to outgas the solvent. This one was more to bring the amount of gunk I found on my bikes guides to others’ attention as I bought the bike from someone who was not at all mechanically inclined right after the warranty ended and his wife made him sell it (sadness)! I really appreciate you helping spread this knowledge and I know you’ve got plenty more where that come from. Please feel free to share with the 890 community here anytime!
Excellent stuff as always, I love these vids on basic maintenance not because it's hard but it's nice to watch a walkthrough before doing it for the first time 👍
Thanks Chris! As always, I really appreciate your support sir! Chain tensioning is coming up next for you 👌🏽
@@AlejandrosEngineeredLifestyle heck yeah 👍 how's the Achilles doing?
Well, got a video coming up to share but unfortunately it looks like my summer riding season is a bust and I’ll be needing surgery soon. I am getting an MRI here early next week… so not the greatest news and I’ve really been trying to stay optimistic. Overall I’ll get healthy again in time to get that sweet fall riding in and I’ll have an even more modded bike to get back on. I may or may not have pulled the trigger on a full exhaust setup and will definitely share my tuning plan soon. Shit can slow me down but I’ll power through it eventually 😂
You should make a video for checking the right chain tension! :)
And btw, thank you for this video because i just checked mine and it was full of gunk 😱
Hey, I’m happy I could help! Chain tension video and tension tool video are both shot and in the works! I appreciate the support
Thanks for this instructional video
Hey thank you for the comment! I appreciate the support. Let me know if you need any other videos
These are really helpful videos. I’ve owned my 890r for a year now and have always missed that step when cleaning the chain.. not any more though. Thank you. Every time I watch a bike review and the person comments on how buttery smooth the quick shifter is on whatever bike it happens to be, it prompts a tad of anxiety that my 890r historically hasn’t always been as smooth. More often than not being agricultural/clunky, thinking I’m having to put too much effort into something called a “quick shifter”😒… I know life sucks, whoa is me, poor poor KTM Super Scalpel 890 Duke R owner…😂
Oh my goodness, the 890R quickshift anxiety is an actual thing… I feel it too lol. Before my soccer injury I was dialing mine in pretty good and this series was made to share it. Other will have to help me determine if the outcome is the same on their bike too because I won’t be riding again until fall unfortunately. Life is still good though and I’ve not only got plenty of 890 content already shot but some more mods on the way as well 😎
@@AlejandrosEngineeredLifestyle sorry you are having to deal with this injury, really hope you are doing well.
Hey there I also have a 890R, i also had the problem with a squeaking chain. I had to lubricate it every 200-400km, it was just a mess lubricant everywhere Rims etcetera. I finnaly bought a CLS (Cain Lube Systems) automatic Chain Oiling System. It works great the bike is so much cleaner and the best, you dont have to manually lube your chain anymore.
Wow… that’s quite a lot of lubrication. What kind of conditions do you typically ride in? I’ve never heard of a CLS before I’m going to have to read more about it.
Good stuff brother.
Really great video!
Hey thank you very much! I’ve got a lot coming now that I’m healed from my injury. Including chain tensioning/quick shift tips
How often do you recommend cleaning the chain? 2022 890 duke
I typically do every 5-7 rides or immediately after a soggy day! The quickshift difference on a well lubricated chain is extremely noticeable to me!
@@AlejandrosEngineeredLifestyle right on, thanks for the info! Great videos
@@haydenbuckner9923 Thank you! I appreciate it. Let me know what other videos you’d like to see when you think of them
Upon reinstalling the shifter arm after removing it for cleaning (0:47s in the video) my shifts seem clunky and dont want to go into first. Any suggestions? Thank you !!!
Hmmm, removing the arm shouldn’t have affected any of the geometry of the shifter. Did your capture bolt on the threads of the shift arm loosen? If that length varies at all you’ll get a different shift experience. When you reinstall is the shift arm sensor and the actual shifter sensors lining up? If not I would loosen that capture bolt and either lengthen or shorten the shift arm until the sensors are lining up, tighten everything down, and take it for a ride to test again.
Plastic Covers, especially the one of the front sprocket, can have holes opened thus allow for instant inspection and facilitate access of cleaners and lubricants.
Very true, you just have to be careful not to add to the problem by letting debris enter through whatever hole you do open up. Thanks for the comment!
which drill driver are you using ?
Hahaha just my little ryobi, nothing crazy man.
Is the Duke's chain a bit inferior in quality? i think i saw that somewhere, maybe a new gold DID chain and sprocket kit? also parafin is what i have always used for cleaning chains, very non aggressive and does a great job..ps I ordered my 890r on the 30th march here in UK..still no show
Yeah, the chain is certainly not up to par with the rest of the higher end kit on the bike such as the brakes. I was thinking of the same, the bike is pretty high strung for something without wind protection. I see myself testing different gearings eventually. With a consistent care routine the chain is tolerable for now! Hope the videos help you in your ownership, let me know if you want to see a specific video about something when yours gets here!
I’m new to the 890r duke. Just have one ride on mine so far. But was also having issues with the quick shifter going from 2nd to 3rd. After searching the web. It’s looking like it might be caused by the dealers not checking or adjusting the chain before it gets delivered to the customer. Will have to check it before my next ride. Adjusting the chain to tight can cause several issues. Binding the suspension up, stretching of the chain causing loose and tight spots, premature wear on the sprockets, bearing and seals. And now causing issues with the quick shifter. Better to have the chain on the loose side but not so loose that the chain could derail.
I’m about to buy one 890R used (only 280 miles). How I can know if the QS is already unlocked with then Tech Pack or not?
Awesome! Welcome to the channel btw. So a couple things to consider. You should be able to browse into the menu via the instructions on page 101 section 17.16.30 here: ownersmanuals2.com/d/79580. You should then be able to toggle it on and off if it’s active. Also you should not go over 6,500 RPM or be pushing the engine until at least 600 miles for the break in period per the manual as well. You’re going to love the bike! Congratulations!
@@AlejandrosEngineeredLifestyle thanks for the information man! I saw your other video about your injurie. Sorry if I missed but was riding?
@@jesusamaroreyes4269 Of course, you let me know what else you’d like to see. There’s so much I’ve been working on and I want to make sure we can get everyone’s questions answered. No thank God, I was playing soccer and it snapped (went off like a gunshot). I am now doing extremely well and can’t wait to roll everything out soon! It’s so much more work now but it’s slowly getting easier
@@AlejandrosEngineeredLifestyle sorry to heard about it. Sound like a pretty “common” injury lately. Hope you get well soon.
THANK YOU ! I TELL MY SON ! ! !
Quick and easy fix, make sure he pays you back in ride time 😁
It's better to lube the chain on the inside.
When spinning the wheel the lube will find it's way to the outside.
Totally right, angle of the camera wasn’t the best and the two second clip wasn’t the entire process this one was more to bring the chain guide gunk to everyone’s attention, I appreciate you!
Are your chain guides clean? How often do you remove your chain/sprocket guards when doing preventative maintenance?
I want to buy this but concerned about reliability. KTM dealers in my area suck big time.
There’s been no big recalls or remarks of premature failure on the forums. As this is very similar to the 790 LC8 engine you could also look into overall 790 reliability. Overall, not too much to worry about from that perspective. Is there any specific component or aspect you’re most concerned about
TFT display getting moisture, you metioned quickshifter is pretty bad? Build quality? Seat comfort? Shifting to neutral?
I heard about some engine leaking issue but not sure.
I want to get a Duke 890 R and found one with 2K miles, cruise control, heated grips, ergo seat for $10,795. Now dealing with KTM warranty for condensation in TFT in my 390 Adventure . One rep said it should be covered, called again a week later and was told by another rep that condensation in tft most likely will not be covered. I expressed my issues with build quality on my KTM. Not happy with his response. If my claim is denied, I will never buy a KTM again. If I buy something I expect to last with normal use and following maintenance schedule. Don’t have the patience to deal with warranty claims and quality issues arising from normal use especially with such low mileage.
why not just remove the chain itself while cleaning ?
3:38 that made me nervous. You should not spin the wheel while putting your fingers there
I understand, definitely not a method for those uncomfortable with the proximity. To note the bike is off and the only propulsion is my own hand on the wheel!