As a professional stills photography I feel I’m getting pushed into buying an R5 or R6 having finally got a great selection of EF lenses, 15 yrs into the game. I don’t shoot video, maybe some of these manufacturers could just focus on a stills camera. Maybe I’ll stick the the 5Dmk4 and be a dinosaur. I do love focus tracking of the R6/5 though. Would love to try the Leica SL
One note: Canon's EF lenses when adapted to the R5 tend to work BETTER than they did on their EF bodies but like you mentioned not as well as the latest tech in the RF glass. But in the case of Nikon the adapted glass on the new cameras have varying degrees of compatibility depending on which era of AF glass you are using. Canon's EF lenses all work perfectly when adapted. This does give Canon a huge advantage over Nikon for users planing to keep legacy lenses.
@@ellisvener5337 Well that eliminates a great number of excellent Nikkor lenses including a few genuine masterpiece optics like the AF Nikkor 180/2.8 ED. The first two generations required in body focusing systems that no longer exist in modern cameras. The lens is still amazing. The comparable Canon EF lens from he same era works perfectly nearly as native not he modern bodies. That is the advantage Canon has especially if the shooter is on a tight budget and needs to buy older glass to fill out the kit.
On the R5 you can customize the MFn button to instantly switch between photo and video modes. When you use the MFn button to go into video mode it will use whatever video settings you saved to C3. So with a touch of a button you've got your custom video settings ready to go, and can instantly switch back to photo mode. Easy peasy, once you know about it.
You can simply press the video record button while in photo mode and i love the Canon mode button more than any other camera for switching back and forth. Its 2 quick presses. I love it. I love it on the R and R5 and hate the fact the R6 have the traditional dial like Sony.
@@3BMEP there are multiple dials for manual iso. The dedicated top one, rf lens ring or any other dial because they can all be customized. It sounds to me that perhaps you need to spend more time with a camera before releasing a video.
In my experience adapted EF Canon, Tamron and Sigma glass works better on a R/R5 then a canon DSLR. When you add RF glass to that mix, it is almost worth it to put an adapter on each EF lens.
For me it was sticking with the A7riii or move towards the EOS R5. In the end what kill it for me was not the camera. It was the time it was released. It was a near perfect camera upgrade for me in terms of lenses having IS and better IBIS for hand held shooting without a tripod(even with battery and overheating an issues). With no travel 2 years ago and with little expected plans for 2021 for travel. I felt for my the A7riii with 24-70mm f2.8 GM fine for what I could do at the time. Move today and with the release of the new 24-70mm f2.8 GM II, travel opening up and shortages in everything. Just getting the 24-70mm f2.8 II and sticking with the A7riii just seems better at this moment. I really hope Canon makes a mk 2 of the EOS R5. Better battery life, matching CF-express cards and resolve the overheating issues(maybe do their own copper mod). As those are the only short comings I see 2 years after release.
If the 30 min recording limit doesn't matter to someone, then it is also possibly the best video camera in its category as well. I just wish the file sizes were not so insanely huge. But yeah C Log 3 is amazing, 8k uncropped is amazing for post, and the IBIS makes it so that you can even get good cinematic shots without a gimbal if you know what you're doing.
Incredibly well articulated. I love watching your reviews and commentary. Even though I'm a lowly M4/3 shooter, I always get some magical nugget of information from each of your videos that inspires me to push my imagery higher.
shoot in C1, and setup your video in C3, now all you need to do is press the record button and the video settings you saved in c3 automatically start recording
Damn...this guy is smart and fun to listen to. It's like listening to that really cool, smart uncle that you always wanted to go visit when you were a kid.
A year since this was posted and as a current R5 owner I agree wholeheartedly with your points. I am a stills only kind of photographer. I love what I get from my current lenses but am somewhat impatiently waiting for some smaller but high quality 1.4s. Street & travel photography with the 24-70 is conspicuous and laborious even if the end results are fantastic. If this third party situation does not get sorted soon .. an A7cR with a 40/2.5G lens could be a gateway for me into alpha-land. Thanks for making this video as always it is fantastic content that is entertaining, informative and thought provoking.
This hasn't aged well. The overheating issue is now fixed. So you get 4k HQ downsampled from 8k, 8K Raw (which is insane) 4k 120, all very usable. What's not to like.
Thank you again for your presentation. I am a stills shooter only, so I was never going to be interested in the issues associated with videography. I have been shooting predominantly Canon for about 42 years (so, yes, I am a living fossil), although I have (and do still) shoot Fuji, Nikon, Olympus and Sony. I have a huge investment in Canon gear and that is not something to be taken lightly for me, and that impacts my decisions to continue with the brand, and also I am totally at home with the style of the menu systems and controls. I had been happily shooting (mostly wildlife and scenery) with the EF system, but when the R-series was first established, I saw it as a rather conservative and anaemic venture into the MILC market. I DID see the R and RP as a means to introduce their RF lens mount and RF lenses. It was clear to me that the lenses released were aimed at the higher end of the market and given that lenses have an expensive and quite protracted gestation period, it made sense (to me) for Canon to go for the higher end of the market, given that the low end was still being managed by legacy APS-C DSLRs. Furthermore, it was more likely that a serious enthusiast or professional would be prepared to invest in higher end gear at this stage in the platform's development. I held back until the R5 and R6 were released, and felt that, at last there was sufficient benefit to me to make the necessary investment. Timing was not on the side of Canon (or Nikon for that matter), given the impacts on both production and logistics from the pandemic, and that is still true today - a friend who works in that space told me they could be held up for as simple a thing as screws from their Chinese supplier, which was shut down for health restriction reasons. Anyway, in the context of a stills-only shooting, I was very happy with the build, IBIS, focusing, tracking and general performance - it did what I wanted with a performance I had hoped for. I got one R5 and two R6 bodies, along with the RF 24-105 f4 and 100-500 lenses and have kept the firmware up as tweaks have been made. I have personally not had any focus or heating issues ever with my RF gear. I agree that Canon has been a bit slow with its lens diversity - especially primes, however with a couple of EF-RF adapters I could access my rather large menagerie of EF glass, and I was actually quite happy with the performance of this legacy glass. Even my Sigma 150-600 and 60-600 lenses performed flawlessly - so I feel no pressure to have lots of RF lenses. I am also encouraged by the announcement that Canon is to release a further 32 lenses over the next four years, which would (given the 5-year lead that lead Sony has) bring it much closer to Sony's current MILC native lens offerings. We obviously shoot in different environments and styles - you are in amazing NY city, I am in amazing NZ, and our use of our gear is different: for example, I tend to shoot mostly good zooms for my kind of work in the wild. Thus, I see no conflict in our experiences, but I am perhaps more inclined to let Canon get their lens range right and sorted. I would like to see a pro-level APS-C sensor R7 for my wildlife work and rumours about about that coming this year...
Shot all day yesterday on the R5 not super long clips but zero overheating. All 4K HQ and 120p. Shot on the RF 15-35, 35 1.8 and the 85 1.4, Plus a grip of photos. I love my R5 and I’ve never had overheating issues for the type of filming I do. I do hate the 30min record limit: super dumb. Maybe the R5c is where I should lean.
Hi Hugh. I always appreciate your videos. It’s water under the bridge at this point, but it is a one button (mf-n) switch to video and back with the settings of your choice. Many hybrid shooters call it the easiest stills-to-video and back functionality ever created in a camera. Happy to show you how!
It feels like your greatest woo with the camera is the video time limit. This has since been fixed through a firmware upgrade. I think it would be fair to review your video to reflect that
This appears to be made prior to the version 1.6 firmware which is a gamechanger for the R5 and video. The video record times in the worst heating modes is pushed out to an hour from the 20 some minutes it did before the firmware upgrade. I am primarily a stills with some video recording. I did use the R5 for video of short clips and the earlier firmware was good enough for me. When long recording of downsampled 4K I use crop movie mode where overheating on the R5 is not an issue.
If you have been a Canon shooter and have an array of high quality EF lens, the Canon R5 is likely the answer unless you are swimming in money. Sony is an excellent Company for sure, as is Canon. Canon's decision to restrict 3rd party lens for now from the RF mount is likely providing them time to fill out their lens line and recoup R&D costs and improve their negotiation of future rights to use the RD mount with third party lens Companies. The Canon R5 and R6 focusing systems are quite advanced, fast and in their latest update will automatically select subject type for you without you needing to select Human, Animal, Vehicle, etc.
I agree with most of your points and some kind of miss the mark. I've had the R5 since release day two years ago and use it as my main camera. Surprisingly, I'm someone who sold off all my Sony gear to come back to Canon. I had the Sony A7Riii and a slew of Sony lenses. Why? Of course this is personal preference but I felt no connection to using the Sony. It was a cold, soulless camera. I found myself not taking it places and didn't enjoy using it. It wasn't something that happened overnight. It took 3 years of me using Sony to finally come to this realization. This is also going to grate a lot of people but I kind of compare Canon and Sony to the iPhone and Android. On paper, Android always wins with tons of RAM, whatever Snap Dragon processor they're bragging about but after drinking that Koolaid a couple times and buying an Android phone, I always come to the conclusion that it's an unpleasant, unintuitive experience. I go back to the iPhone and it "just works." I find Canon is that of the iPhone. It feels good in the hands, it shoots well, has a beautiful color science, and it "just works." Sure Sony has all the specs but if you don't enjoy using the camera, it doesn't matter. Again, this is my personal preference and opinion. My main point after all that rambling is that there is SO SO much more to a camera and a system than which autofocuses a micron of a second faster. Canon and Sony are both great systems that often times are more capable than the person using it. Sony just wasn't for me. I'd rather have the "lesser specced" camera than going back to a camera I didn't enjoy. The part of your video that I felt missed the mark was yes, the 30 minute video limit is completely and utterly disappointing but you can shoot in 4k standard and it will never overheat. The overheating in 4k you're referring to is 4k HQ which yes, can overheat. But it's on the same level as why does anyone need 8k? Honestly, unless you film side by side comparisons and pixel peep, 4k standard is MORE than a viable option for UA-cam and people watching on their phones. Add a tad of sharpening in Premiere and it's nearly 98% as good as 4k HQ with no overheating.
Agreed, I transitioned from Sony a7riii to Canon R6 [plus Fuji X100v for fun] for similar reasons; Sony just felt like I was operating a computer with a confusing menu).
i sold my a6400 and A73 for the R and R5. I've has an A7s3, GH4 and an R5c and i believe for what i do there is no better faster, easier camera on the planet earth. Slog 2 and # on Sony is too hard to grade and you cant turn off the digital sharpness on sony so the image looks digital. Sony saves the files in a strange folder on the card and LCD screen sucks. Plus my pink finger hangs off the bottom and the menu sucks too. I have an Atomos for my R5 and never use it because the image image on the screen is perfection.
The 1.6 update fixed the overheating issue completely. You can do 8k up to 2 hours with no issues. If the R5II fixes the dynamic range that camera will crush. Also doesn't the A74 overheat? Hmmmmm
I have had my R5 for about 16 months now. It came with the 24-105 f/4 "kit lens." My "bundle" also came with an adapter for my EF legacy lens array (3 primes and one 17-40 f/4 zoom). For my use, this has been an excellent system. I did not have to learn a new menu system. I am well acquainted with the Canon idiosyncrasies. The build quality is solid. Even increasing the ISO to compensate for the f/4 on the 24-105 (which is rarely decoupled from the R5 for another option) does not appear to degrade the output. The sensor/processor offers the best dynamic range and color I have ever had. Oh ... admittedly I shoot mostly stills - video for moi is not really a thing. I find the overall satisfaction of using the R5 to even beat the experience I had when moving from a 60d to the 5d some years ago. Granted - its not a WOW. Its a Canon - boring, steadfast and predictable. Perfect for a retired bureaucrat like myself. BTW - I have used KEH from time to time - they got my old 5d and I have purchased peripheral stuff like mics. Good system - its worth it to keep browsing to see what's come in. 👍 Be well.
For me personally the big issue with the R5 and R glass was the price. That ruled them out. Not so long ago I acquired a nice low mileage A7R IV body and added a24-105 f4 all for £3000 and that included a couple of batteries. The other affordable option was the Z7 II however my local shop didn't have one used, or new. The latter is a sign of the times. What has made me most happy about my purchase is the range of glass available. I now have the body, two Sony and two sigma lenses (all very sharp and low in chromatic aberration) that cover all my needs through to wildlife and macro. All for the same cost, actually a few quid less in reality, of the R5 and 24-105 new. Even with both used, in the UK, the R5 and 24-105 were just eating up too much of my cash. I don't shoot video and although the Sony menus are a pain and so forth I've invested in a great system that will suit my needs for a long time. It strikes me that Canon are big on marketing, backed up by a huge brand identity. Scratch the surface and they are still playing catch up. Let's face it the Nikon Z1 whips anything they can field and the glass is generally more affordable. It is going to be interesting to see how Canon's business decisions play out.
You make me giggle a little when you talk about RF prime being expensive, knowing you shoot SL 2 and Leica M. It is a conscious decision by Canon to shoot for the ultra premium lenses. Most R5 owners would not buy it to shoot with 24-105. It is not a fair review for R5 without using the 28-70, and the 1.2 primes. I bought a CL because of your video. I almost chose SL2 over R5 but the Leica primes are just way out of my reach. BTW supposedly Sigma has plan to make RF lenses, only foiled by the chip shortage.
Canon really missed the boat with their 1.8 primes...The need to make extremely sharp models like Nikon at a little bit of a premium over their current models...Even if I had a few grand a piece to burn, I wouldn't want to carry around a giant 1.2 in order to get sharp images...the Nikon 24-120 f4 and the line of 1.8 primes would make for an amazing kit...I can't wait to see what the Z6iii brings to the party...
R5 is a great camera for sure, but two years ago it was the lenses that swayed me to the Sony camp. The fact that you have great options to choose from and for all kinds of needs and budgets is just fantastic. I do appreciate the better manual focus assist of the R5 to that in my current rig, but ultimately for me it is all about the glass as bodies come and go (that sounded weird....). And you are absolutely right in that in this current economy with rising prices and not-so-attractive deals it makes a lot of sense to consider used gear. In fact right now there is a Sony 24GM lense available in a friendly store near me for around 1000 euros and it is reputedly in excellent condition...I feel mightily tempted as this is one of those lenses I keep coming back to with twitching fingers 😉. Thanks again for a great vid, Hugh!
When people say Sony has more lenses they leave out Canon's EF lenses that work perfectly on the R cameras. I have 3 RF lenses but I prefer most of the EF lenses becuase i can use The Drop in ND & polarizer adapters with them for video.
So for once in my life I might be first to comment. Has it really been two years since the R5 came out. I remember the videos and listening to your comments while on the way to work. Where has the time gone. Have a great week and "Be lucky stay safe".
I am attracted to the R7. I do surf videos and the crop sensor isn't a negative. The autofocus on the R7 is as good as the R5 and it doesn't overheat. All this for 1/3 the price of the R5.
For stills, I think that lens choices should always come first - and inform the subsequent selection of a body and make. In my case, RF lenses did not figure at the outset and still don't ..... Mounted onto the R5 with the EF/RF adapter, my Canon TSE lenses (especially the 24mm mk ii) produce superb results. And then, it is the Zeiss Milvus 50 and 100mm which resolve beautifully. Those capable of consistently taking good photos will mainly shoot in manual and therefore all the tech wizardry that comes with today's cameras should really have little or no bearing. You have covered this point very neatly by comparing the R5 with Leica. In summary - plump for good glass and shoot in manual - that's pretty much all there is to it. To be fair, I rarely make videos and can live with the R5's limitations here although I agree that hybrid shooters or those who record themselves plus interviews will have an easier time with Sony. However, the R5's higher grade 4k footage should not be overlooked if quality is your thing - ultimately this is all I care about.
Great video! Your KEH ad at the end reminded me that I've been looking to get either the Leica Elmar-M 24 f3.8 or the Super-Elmar-M 21 f3.4. I'd love to see a video on your 24!
I have been a Canon user since their TL QL days. There was something new every year and I was always on the edge of my seat waiting to see what was going to be on my list. Prices were not like they are now and knowing the owner of one of the best camera shops in LA gave me buying confidence. I kind of stopped buying a lot of equipment years later and switched around with different companies. Do not ask what my last Canon was. It was one of my favorites and still works well. I tried higher priced and brought in a couple pocked cameras that have been fun. I am at a crossroads so I either look for a less expensive tool or I stick to what I have at hand. Thank you Three Blind Men and a Chang. Like someone said below.... ," "This guy is smart and fun to listen to. It's like listening to that really cool smart uncle that you always wanted to go visit when you were a kid." Quote from Robert Mattson. So right..Almost hypnotizing too.
Enjoyed the video, and the conversations. Leica is, like you say, a talisman. Fuji is doing some very interesting things with medium format. Nikon has a great, capable, "rugged outdoors" brand. Sony is my OLED TV (and computer monitor), but, as an artist, visual storyteller, adventurer, not feeling the connection to it in the photography, video world. Canon is in my soul since my grandfather gave me my first camera at 12 years old: a Canonflex RP. I've never owned another brand. I waited and watched the Canon R5. In my view, there is no other pro-level hybrid camera right now (in any price range) that has: 1. "Instant on" video shooting from photography mode without moving from the EVF and 2. The most amazing photo AND video (dual pixel) autofocus and 3. One of the best IBIS systems that allows you to hand hold video with longer lenses When firmware 1.6 hit along with credible reports that the shutdowns were (mostly) over (due to real or imagined overheating), I purchased. Been using it and testing it for about 1 week and loving it. Perfect for the way I do photography now and for the foreseeable future. It's a run and gun camera that really delivers for my types of scenarios and passions.
How many years are we into Canon’s R series, and still no wide primes (except for the fun but niche 16 f2.8)? Let’s have that 24mm f1.8 macro please Canon - ASAP. Let’s have a 20mm too… and how about a 28mm while you’re at it? And if you’re not going to… then kindly stop beating up third party manufacturers and allow them to fill the void.
The R5 is not perfect but it's more than good enough for me. It does everything I need it to do, better than any other camera I've ever owned. Outstanding stills image quality. Recording limit? I don't care; I don't do long form recording. Same reason it's never overheated on me. Actually, I use the R6 for video; its 4K, being downsampled from 5.1K, is actually better than the R5's non-HQ 4K. But, hold that thought. What about 8K? Don't care. AF is very good. I had Canon cameras before and didn't have to relearn everything when I finally went mirrorless. The RF lenses are fantastic, if overpriced. If I were a "serious videographer", I'd look elsewhere. But I'm not. So I didn't. Sony and Nikon are obviously fine companies. They have their own quirks, strengths, and weaknesses. They're all tools and my Canons are the right tools for me. Your mileage may vary.
I do like your real world and practical reasons for shooting video with an A7IV over the R5. Personally I think Canon shot themselves in the foot when they wanted to be the first mirrorless to have 8K. People’s reasons like downsampling and cropping really don’t make sense with the impracticalities of shooting with such a high resolution, not to mention Canon’s time limits with 8K. Besides, a well planned shoot, including shot list, removing the need to crop in post, just makes more sense and gets rid of an unnecessary extra step during the edit.
New (relatively) subscriber... man you speak well !! write a book on it :) I just purchased (here two years later) my R5. And I agree with you completely. I'm thrilled because I am 99% a stills guy and landscapes / wildlife at that. It upgrades my bulging collection of EF lenses and I am very happy about that, I do however (as budget and wife allow) plan to upgrade to RF. Stunning NY shots sir, just wow!
Great video as always 👌📸 what’s the best budget full frame camera for using manual focus voigtlander lenses ?? Nikon z line?? Or a Panasonic s5? I don’t shoot video
I love my R6. I don’t shoot video at all. In fact, I have never even touched the red button and have no desire or curiosity to do so. My IPhone 13Pro is good enough for any family/travel video I take. I also don’t crop any of my photos. So the 20mp is more than lovely enough for the travel, street and family photography I do and the prints I make, which have never exceeded 24x36-ish and only a couple of prints that big. The 45mp of the R5 would be a waste of file size and money for me. I like that the R6 uses the same exact sensor as the old 1DX Mk III that gives me those pleasant classic Canon colors I was used to with my 5DMkIII, with much better low light performance and even nicer tonality that the old flagship Canon was noted for. I find this more important than resolution. It even has the flagship DSLR’s Digic X processor. AF is amazingly good. Ergonomics are the best I’ve felt. I like the mode dial better than the LCD screen and the twin SD cards rather than the mismatched CF Express- SD. And I especially like the price as compared to the R5, which allowed me to spend my money on RF glass. I have the 24-105 f/4 and the astonishing 50 f/1.2. That is the kit I will travel the world with with my family. I may add the RF 100mm 2.8 macro, but that’s it. I see myself still passionately enjoying this camera a decade from now. If I hit the Powerball, then I’ll get the Leica M11 with the 50 apo and play Henri Cartier-Bresson on the streets of Europe. But I will never sell the R6.
So all this does is encourage me to go to KEH and pick up an Olympus OMD EM1 MK2 and the 12-45 f2.8 and the 12-25 f4 zooms for my hybrid needs. My canon RP will likely be replaced with the R6 or the unicorn R7. Maybe Canon will upgrade my EF 17-40 f4 to the RF version, and where’s a decent 28mm f2/2.8 and a 50 f1.4 that’s sharp and renders nicely? I like the 85 f1.8 but it’s not much better than EF version. Canon needs to copy Nikon with some nice mid range primes. I never use my f2.8 zooms unless I have to. The f4 zooms and fast primes approach has served me well for 25+ years. I’m no pro but I know what I like. Maybe a divorce would be cheaper / better.
Great, educational video. For me, it was the FTZ adapter and ten well loved Nikkor primes (20 mm f/4 through 500 mm reflex f/8) that tipped me to the Z7 in fall of 2019. Now, with five Z lenses to accompany my Z7, and a Z9 on order, I'm curious about what Canon, Sony, Fuji and Panasonic are doing, but I've got plenty of fun challenges to grow with in the Nikon system. I loved your photos in this video, ... as usual.
Thanks for sharing your opinions. Agreed that switching to video is awkward (and R5 awkwardness does not end there) but some of the things you cover in the video are just factually incorrect. For example, you don't have to press the MODE dial again once you've selected video. Plus, you can set a button to one-touch start recording. The iso dial in M - not sure what you mean. Each dial controls a setting from the exposure triangle. Plus you have one spare. You can customize them all. It sounds to me that you did not spend that much time with the camera to learn it because, assume, you prefer controls from other manufacturers. This is absolutely fine btw. But this video is like me talking about a Ferrari. I once sat in one, does not mean I know the car or its capabilities very well. Plus might talk about different tires purely based on price and spec and conclude which ones are good and which are bad while I'm at it. 😉
Quick Comment: You say you used an A74 to make the video but in the "Gear Used" section you link an R5. Maybe not in doors, but the A74 overheats outside just as fast as the R5. With the 4k60 crop the Canon R7 is more comparable to the A74 in terms of the 4k oversample from 7k without overheating indoors and cost $1100 less. For video the A74 is missing a few the video features the R5 has that shooters would want like no crop 4k 60 and 4k 120. And for photos the A74 can not match the $1499 R7.
This camera can do a whole lot more, because it can be set up a lot better. For instance, I use the M-Fn button for instant 1-click photo/video switching.
@@3BMEP I'm personally using the ring around the SET button for ISO (although I set it to limited auto most of the time), the rear dial for aperture and the top dial for shutter speed. Exposure compensation using the control ring on the lenses. That about covers it for me.
Sorry, Hugh, I like you a lot, but here you are reverse engineering your arguments to justify your biases, like, starting from the fixed premise : I don't like Canon that much, I am a Sony-Leica boy, so I am going to twist and tweak my arguments in reverse starting from that. First of all, you are the only one that states that A74 is a , quote, vastly superior " video camera, and you nitpick two features, like the video-photo switch and the hdmi port. They are not even in the same league. R5 compares to RED and Alexa, Sony A1, Nikon Z9, but NOT with an A74. You guys are switching the posts of arguments in an incredible way. So when Canon had a crop on video it was the end of the world, yew, how can Canon cripple like this, what a bummer, but when A74 has a crop on 4k60, not a big deal, we find workarounds. When Sonys were overheating in their prior models, again, wasn't a big deal for you, we can find workarounds you were saying, we care about the amazing image quality of A7r2( for example) , we can take the overheating. Now that Canon overheats, OMG, the end of the world, non usable, stay away from it like from the plague. And the recording limit, pretty much the same. None of you ever mention that BY SIMPLY ATTACHING AN ATOMOS NINJA to the top of the Canon you solve the problem of overheating, the problem of limit recording time, the problem of prores codex, etc. The R5 has a VAAAAASTLY superior design and ergonomics vs any Sony, vastly superior image stabilization ( which is a huge deal, as basically spares you the nightmarish setup and cumbersomeness of gimbals-I hate them with a passion), is a better photography camera than most Sonys, and, unless you want for some unexplainable reason to film long 8k videos in the studio, for UA-cam, INTERNALLY ( cause with Atomos it works) , Canon Eos r5 is just ABOUT THE PERFECT BEAST OF A CAMERA. So it is Sony A1, so it is Nikon Z9, but they are more expensive and, frankly, Canon looks much sexier and better. With that being said, excuse my venting, I like you guys a lot, keep doing the great job
Painful true insight but Canon and it eco system is my drug of choice. Like a bad marriage it too costly to divorce now and lose half. I professionally shot with an R6 I use an R , RP and a 90D. My L lens are good but expensive. Even after 3years the rf mount could use more versatility. My business partner uses Sony. I am often feeling like a creep looking over the fence at my neighbors wife as I often look through his camera bag when he is away 😜
The biggest problem with Canon (Mirrorless or the old DSLR era) is the price, extremely Expensive. I'm from Canon DSLR, but I always buy used Dslr because buy new was imposible. I switch to Sony A7III for less than $1,900 I buy a New camera and adapter and use new EF lenses, 2 after I buy Sigma Art lenses (35mm, 85mm, 24-70mm) and one Tamron 17-28mm. In Canon ecosystem I can't never buy all this equipment, because is extremely Expensive. The greed of Canon is incredible. They don't improve the technology, example: Canon 6D, for 6D mk II they just move some of the performance/technology of 5D MK III and put inside the "new" Canon 6D mk II and rise the price. There nothing New in the Canon 6D mk II. The same in his APS-C series. They play games with his customers. Sony in other hand make Real improvement from one model to the other that why now I have Canon and never return to Canon and I'm not the only one. Canon can't never return to his old Glory of the DSLR era. Is like the story of Blockbuster/Netflix in movie or Border's/Amazon in book-magazine. Appear a New company with new and better technology at better price and the old company lost the market or comes in the second place. 🏁
The two versions of the EF 24-105 L lenses i had were terrible, struggling even at 18mp. Just got a R5 but i cant trust Canon to buy the RF 24-105 I cant be conned for a third time
As a professional stills photography I feel I’m getting pushed into buying an R5 or R6 having finally got a great selection of EF lenses, 15 yrs into the game. I don’t shoot video, maybe some of these manufacturers could just focus on a stills camera. Maybe I’ll stick the the 5Dmk4 and be a dinosaur. I do love focus tracking of the R6/5 though. Would love to try the Leica SL
One note: Canon's EF lenses when adapted to the R5 tend to work BETTER than they did on their EF bodies but like you mentioned not as well as the latest tech in the RF glass. But in the case of Nikon the adapted glass on the new cameras have varying degrees of compatibility depending on which era of AF glass you are using. Canon's EF lenses all work perfectly when adapted. This does give Canon a huge advantage over Nikon for users planing to keep legacy lenses.
Any Nikkor AF lenses old enough to not be compatible with the Z cameras aren’t lenses I’d want to use a DSLR or mirrorless camera.
@@ellisvener5337 Well that eliminates a great number of excellent Nikkor lenses including a few genuine masterpiece optics like the AF Nikkor 180/2.8 ED. The first two generations required in body focusing systems that no longer exist in modern cameras. The lens is still amazing. The comparable Canon EF lens from he same era works perfectly nearly as native not he modern bodies. That is the advantage Canon has especially if the shooter is on a tight budget and needs to buy older glass to fill out the kit.
On the R5 you can customize the MFn button to instantly switch between photo and video modes. When you use the MFn button to go into video mode it will use whatever video settings you saved to C3. So with a touch of a button you've got your custom video settings ready to go, and can instantly switch back to photo mode. Easy peasy, once you know about it.
Kent, how do you handle manual ISO?
@@3BMEP You could use the control ring on any RF lens
@@3BMEP I use the top back wheel for ISO, the wheel on the lens for kelvin
You can simply press the video record button while in photo mode and i love the Canon mode button more than any other camera for switching back and forth. Its 2 quick presses. I love it. I love it on the R and R5 and hate the fact the R6 have the traditional dial like Sony.
@@3BMEP there are multiple dials for manual iso. The dedicated top one, rf lens ring or any other dial because they can all be customized. It sounds to me that perhaps you need to spend more time with a camera before releasing a video.
In my experience adapted EF Canon, Tamron and Sigma glass works better on a R/R5 then a canon DSLR. When you add RF glass to that mix, it is almost worth it to put an adapter on each EF lens.
For me it was sticking with the A7riii or move towards the EOS R5. In the end what kill it for me was not the camera. It was the time it was released. It was a near perfect camera upgrade for me in terms of lenses having IS and better IBIS for hand held shooting without a tripod(even with battery and overheating an issues). With no travel 2 years ago and with little expected plans for 2021 for travel. I felt for my the A7riii with 24-70mm f2.8 GM fine for what I could do at the time.
Move today and with the release of the new 24-70mm f2.8 GM II, travel opening up and shortages in everything. Just getting the 24-70mm f2.8 II and sticking with the A7riii just seems better at this moment.
I really hope Canon makes a mk 2 of the EOS R5. Better battery life, matching CF-express cards and resolve the overheating issues(maybe do their own copper mod). As those are the only short comings I see 2 years after release.
If the 30 min recording limit doesn't matter to someone, then it is also possibly the best video camera in its category as well. I just wish the file sizes were not so insanely huge. But yeah C Log 3 is amazing, 8k uncropped is amazing for post, and the IBIS makes it so that you can even get good cinematic shots without a gimbal if you know what you're doing.
Incredibly well articulated. I love watching your reviews and commentary. Even though I'm a lowly M4/3 shooter, I always get some magical nugget of information from each of your videos that inspires me to push my imagery higher.
So glad you enjoy our work! 🙏🏻 But “lowly m43 shooter?” Stop! 😊🖖🏻
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shoot in C1, and setup your video in C3, now all you need to do is press the record button and the video settings you saved in c3 automatically start recording
Damn...this guy is smart and fun to listen to. It's like listening to that really cool, smart uncle that you always wanted to go visit when you were a kid.
If that uncle was Jeff Goldblum.
Quick note about switching from photo to video. It’s a one button click affair if configured correctly
Agree
How do you set that up?
A year since this was posted and as a current R5 owner I agree wholeheartedly with your points. I am a stills only kind of photographer. I love what I get from my current lenses but am somewhat impatiently waiting for some smaller but high quality 1.4s. Street & travel photography with the 24-70 is conspicuous and laborious even if the end results are fantastic. If this third party situation does not get sorted soon .. an A7cR with a 40/2.5G lens could be a gateway for me into alpha-land. Thanks for making this video as always it is fantastic content that is entertaining, informative and thought provoking.
I agree: a7C R with 40/2.5 is a compelling small kit!
This hasn't aged well. The overheating issue is now fixed. So you get 4k HQ downsampled from 8k, 8K Raw (which is insane) 4k 120, all very usable. What's not to like.
Thank you again for your presentation. I am a stills shooter only, so I was never going to be interested in the issues associated with videography. I have been shooting predominantly Canon for about 42 years (so, yes, I am a living fossil), although I have (and do still) shoot Fuji, Nikon, Olympus and Sony. I have a huge investment in Canon gear and that is not something to be taken lightly for me, and that impacts my decisions to continue with the brand, and also I am totally at home with the style of the menu systems and controls.
I had been happily shooting (mostly wildlife and scenery) with the EF system, but when the R-series was first established, I saw it as a rather conservative and anaemic venture into the MILC market. I DID see the R and RP as a means to introduce their RF lens mount and RF lenses. It was clear to me that the lenses released were aimed at the higher end of the market and given that lenses have an expensive and quite protracted gestation period, it made sense (to me) for Canon to go for the higher end of the market, given that the low end was still being managed by legacy APS-C DSLRs. Furthermore, it was more likely that a serious enthusiast or professional would be prepared to invest in higher end gear at this stage in the platform's development. I held back until the R5 and R6 were released, and felt that, at last there was sufficient benefit to me to make the necessary investment.
Timing was not on the side of Canon (or Nikon for that matter), given the impacts on both production and logistics from the pandemic, and that is still true today - a friend who works in that space told me they could be held up for as simple a thing as screws from their Chinese supplier, which was shut down for health restriction reasons. Anyway, in the context of a stills-only shooting, I was very happy with the build, IBIS, focusing, tracking and general performance - it did what I wanted with a performance I had hoped for. I got one R5 and two R6 bodies, along with the RF 24-105 f4 and 100-500 lenses and have kept the firmware up as tweaks have been made. I have personally not had any focus or heating issues ever with my RF gear.
I agree that Canon has been a bit slow with its lens diversity - especially primes, however with a couple of EF-RF adapters I could access my rather large menagerie of EF glass, and I was actually quite happy with the performance of this legacy glass. Even my Sigma 150-600 and 60-600 lenses performed flawlessly - so I feel no pressure to have lots of RF lenses. I am also encouraged by the announcement that Canon is to release a further 32 lenses over the next four years, which would (given the 5-year lead that lead Sony has) bring it much closer to Sony's current MILC native lens offerings.
We obviously shoot in different environments and styles - you are in amazing NY city, I am in amazing NZ, and our use of our gear is different: for example, I tend to shoot mostly good zooms for my kind of work in the wild. Thus, I see no conflict in our experiences, but I am perhaps more inclined to let Canon get their lens range right and sorted. I would like to see a pro-level APS-C sensor R7 for my wildlife work and rumours about about that coming this year...
Trevor, what a lovely and well-reasoned contribution - thank you!
@@3BMEP Thank you for being patient enough to read it and your gracious response.🙂
Here's to us fossils and our Canon stuff!
Shot all day yesterday on the R5 not super long clips but zero overheating. All 4K HQ and 120p. Shot on the RF 15-35, 35 1.8 and the 85 1.4, Plus a grip of photos. I love my R5 and I’ve never had overheating issues for the type of filming I do. I do hate the 30min record limit: super dumb. Maybe the R5c is where I should lean.
Hey - if it works for you, I’m happy for you!
I went for my R5 to an R5c back to my R5. lol.
Hi Hugh. I always appreciate your videos. It’s water under the bridge at this point, but it is a one button (mf-n) switch to video and back with the settings of your choice. Many hybrid shooters call it the easiest stills-to-video and back functionality ever created in a camera. Happy to show you how!
It feels like your greatest woo with the camera is the video time limit. This has since been fixed through a firmware upgrade. I think it would be fair to review your video to reflect that
My biggest issue is the combination of Canon’s strategy and tactics, from the initial launch through the current lock out of third party lenses.
You can customise a button so that you can press it and immediately switch from video to stills and back.
This appears to be made prior to the version 1.6 firmware which is a gamechanger for the R5 and video. The video record times in the worst heating modes is pushed out to an hour from the 20 some minutes it did before the firmware upgrade. I am primarily a stills with some video recording. I did use the R5 for video of short clips and the earlier firmware was good enough for me. When long recording of downsampled 4K I use crop movie mode where overheating on the R5 is not an issue.
If Canon had viable third party options I'd be happy to get the R5. That S1R is criminally underrated. You should do a longterm review on it as well.
Agree with you. My daily driver is the s1r. Top notch cam. Not for wild life or sports. But the rest? Its more then capable.
If you have been a Canon shooter and have an array of high quality EF lens, the Canon R5 is likely the answer unless you are swimming in money. Sony is an excellent Company for sure, as is Canon. Canon's decision to restrict 3rd party lens for now from the RF mount is likely providing them time to fill out their lens line and recoup R&D costs and improve their negotiation of future rights to use the RD mount with third party lens Companies. The Canon R5 and R6 focusing systems are quite advanced, fast and in their latest update will automatically select subject type for you without you needing to select Human, Animal, Vehicle, etc.
I agree with most of your points and some kind of miss the mark. I've had the R5 since release day two years ago and use it as my main camera. Surprisingly, I'm someone who sold off all my Sony gear to come back to Canon. I had the Sony A7Riii and a slew of Sony lenses. Why? Of course this is personal preference but I felt no connection to using the Sony. It was a cold, soulless camera. I found myself not taking it places and didn't enjoy using it. It wasn't something that happened overnight. It took 3 years of me using Sony to finally come to this realization.
This is also going to grate a lot of people but I kind of compare Canon and Sony to the iPhone and Android. On paper, Android always wins with tons of RAM, whatever Snap Dragon processor they're bragging about but after drinking that Koolaid a couple times and buying an Android phone, I always come to the conclusion that it's an unpleasant, unintuitive experience. I go back to the iPhone and it "just works."
I find Canon is that of the iPhone. It feels good in the hands, it shoots well, has a beautiful color science, and it "just works." Sure Sony has all the specs but if you don't enjoy using the camera, it doesn't matter. Again, this is my personal preference and opinion. My main point after all that rambling is that there is SO SO much more to a camera and a system than which autofocuses a micron of a second faster. Canon and Sony are both great systems that often times are more capable than the person using it. Sony just wasn't for me. I'd rather have the "lesser specced" camera than going back to a camera I didn't enjoy.
The part of your video that I felt missed the mark was yes, the 30 minute video limit is completely and utterly disappointing but you can shoot in 4k standard and it will never overheat. The overheating in 4k you're referring to is 4k HQ which yes, can overheat. But it's on the same level as why does anyone need 8k? Honestly, unless you film side by side comparisons and pixel peep, 4k standard is MORE than a viable option for UA-cam and people watching on their phones. Add a tad of sharpening in Premiere and it's nearly 98% as good as 4k HQ with no overheating.
A nicely reasoned contribution! Thank you!
Agreed, I transitioned from Sony a7riii to Canon R6 [plus Fuji X100v for fun] for similar reasons; Sony just felt like I was operating a computer with a confusing menu).
i sold my a6400 and A73 for the R and R5. I've has an A7s3, GH4 and an R5c and i believe for what i do there is no better faster, easier camera on the planet earth. Slog 2 and # on Sony is too hard to grade and you cant turn off the digital sharpness on sony so the image looks digital. Sony saves the files in a strange folder on the card and LCD screen sucks. Plus my pink finger hangs off the bottom and the menu sucks too. I have an Atomos for my R5 and never use it because the image image on the screen is perfection.
i wish they would stop putting video capability in all cameras.
There is no video in the Hasselblad X2D. 😊🖖🏻
@@3BMEP yeah....wish I could afford even half of that camera
The 1.6 update fixed the overheating issue completely. You can do 8k up to 2 hours with no issues. If the R5II fixes the dynamic range that camera will crush. Also doesn't the A74 overheat? Hmmmmm
I have had my R5 for about 16 months now. It came with the 24-105 f/4 "kit lens." My "bundle" also came with an adapter for my EF legacy lens array (3 primes and one 17-40 f/4 zoom). For my use, this has been an excellent system. I did not have to learn a new menu system. I am well acquainted with the Canon idiosyncrasies. The build quality is solid. Even increasing the ISO to compensate for the f/4 on the 24-105 (which is rarely decoupled from the R5 for another option) does not appear to degrade the output. The sensor/processor offers the best dynamic range and color I have ever had. Oh ... admittedly I shoot mostly stills - video for moi is not really a thing. I find the overall satisfaction of using the R5 to even beat the experience I had when moving from a 60d to the 5d some years ago. Granted - its not a WOW. Its a Canon - boring, steadfast and predictable. Perfect for a retired bureaucrat like myself.
BTW - I have used KEH from time to time - they got my old 5d and I have purchased peripheral stuff like mics. Good system - its worth it to keep browsing to see what's come in. 👍
Be well.
I didn’t realize we shared a background in the 5D series, Ed - mine was a Mark II. 😊
@@3BMEP Mk2 also.
Rent the 14 to 35 f4 RF
For me personally the big issue with the R5 and R glass was the price. That ruled them out.
Not so long ago I acquired a nice low mileage A7R IV body and added a24-105 f4 all for £3000 and that included a couple of batteries. The other affordable option was the Z7 II however my local shop didn't have one used, or new. The latter is a sign of the times.
What has made me most happy about my purchase is the range of glass available. I now have the body, two Sony and two sigma lenses (all very sharp and low in chromatic aberration) that cover all my needs through to wildlife and macro. All for the same cost, actually a few quid less in reality, of the R5 and 24-105 new.
Even with both used, in the UK, the R5 and 24-105 were just eating up too much of my cash.
I don't shoot video and although the Sony menus are a pain and so forth I've invested in a great system that will suit my needs for a long time.
It strikes me that Canon are big on marketing, backed up by a huge brand identity. Scratch the surface and they are still playing catch up.
Let's face it the Nikon Z1 whips anything they can field and the glass is generally more affordable. It is going to be interesting to see how Canon's business decisions play out.
Agreed.🖖🏻
What is a Z1??
You make me giggle a little when you talk about RF prime being expensive, knowing you shoot SL 2 and Leica M. It is a conscious decision by Canon to shoot for the ultra premium lenses. Most R5 owners would not buy it to shoot with 24-105. It is not a fair review for R5 without using the 28-70, and the 1.2 primes. I bought a CL because of your video. I almost chose SL2 over R5 but the Leica primes are just way out of my reach. BTW supposedly Sigma has plan to make RF lenses, only foiled by the chip shortage.
Exactly. The 24-105 is a low quality L lens. I sold mine and got the 24-70 quick.
Canon really missed the boat with their 1.8 primes...The need to make extremely sharp models like Nikon at a little bit of a premium over their current models...Even if I had a few grand a piece to burn, I wouldn't want to carry around a giant 1.2 in order to get sharp images...the Nikon 24-120 f4 and the line of 1.8 primes would make for an amazing kit...I can't wait to see what the Z6iii brings to the party...
R5 is a great camera for sure, but two years ago it was the lenses that swayed me to the Sony camp. The fact that you have great options to choose from and for all kinds of needs and budgets is just fantastic. I do appreciate the better manual focus assist of the R5 to that in my current rig, but ultimately for me it is all about the glass as bodies come and go (that sounded weird....). And you are absolutely right in that in this current economy with rising prices and not-so-attractive deals it makes a lot of sense to consider used gear. In fact right now there is a Sony 24GM lense available in a friendly store near me for around 1000 euros and it is reputedly in excellent condition...I feel mightily tempted as this is one of those lenses I keep coming back to with twitching fingers 😉. Thanks again for a great vid, Hugh!
When people say Sony has more lenses they leave out Canon's EF lenses that work perfectly on the R cameras. I have 3 RF lenses but I prefer most of the EF lenses becuase i can use The Drop in ND & polarizer adapters with them for video.
So for once in my life I might be first to comment.
Has it really been two years since the R5 came out.
I remember the videos and listening to your comments while on the way to work.
Where has the time gone.
Have a great week and "Be lucky stay safe".
Amazing, isn't it Will? Anyway: right back at you! :)
I am attracted to the R7. I do surf videos and the crop sensor isn't a negative. The autofocus on the R7 is as good as the R5 and it doesn't overheat. All this for 1/3 the price of the R5.
If only Canon made better moderately priced primes…
The images you shot are stunning - both in their composition and sharpness.
For stills, I think that lens choices should always come first - and inform the subsequent selection of a body and make. In my case, RF lenses did not figure at the outset and still don't .....
Mounted onto the R5 with the EF/RF adapter, my Canon TSE lenses (especially the 24mm mk ii) produce superb results. And then, it is the Zeiss Milvus 50 and 100mm which resolve beautifully.
Those capable of consistently taking good photos will mainly shoot in manual and therefore all the tech wizardry that comes with today's cameras should really have little or no bearing. You have covered this point very neatly by comparing the R5 with Leica.
In summary - plump for good glass and shoot in manual - that's pretty much all there is to it.
To be fair, I rarely make videos and can live with the R5's limitations here although I agree that hybrid shooters or those who record themselves plus interviews will have an easier time with Sony. However, the R5's higher grade 4k footage should not be overlooked if quality is your thing - ultimately this is all I care about.
Good points!
@@3BMEP Greetings from the UK - thanks for your excellent reviews - always informative and enjoyable - Louisa
ALWAYS a pleasure to watch. Experience and a fantastic delivery. Your channel is priceless and a treat to kick back and enjoy. Thank you.
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Great video! Your KEH ad at the end reminded me that I've been looking to get either the Leica Elmar-M 24 f3.8 or the Super-Elmar-M 21 f3.4. I'd love to see a video on your 24!
I have been a Canon user since their TL QL days. There was something new every year and I was always on the edge
of my seat waiting to see what was going to be on my list. Prices were not like they are now and knowing
the owner of one of the best camera shops in LA gave me buying confidence. I kind of stopped buying a lot of
equipment years later and switched around with different companies. Do not ask what my last Canon was.
It was one of my favorites and still works well. I tried higher priced and brought in a couple pocked cameras that have been fun.
I am at a crossroads so I either look for a less expensive tool or I stick to what I have at hand.
Thank you Three Blind Men and a Chang. Like someone said below.... ,"
"This guy is smart and fun to listen to. It's like listening to that really cool smart uncle that you always wanted to go visit when you were a kid." Quote from Robert Mattson.
So right..Almost hypnotizing too.
Thank you, Carl - and thank you for sharing a bit of your story!
Enjoyed the video, and the conversations.
Leica is, like you say, a talisman.
Fuji is doing some very interesting things with medium format.
Nikon has a great, capable, "rugged outdoors" brand.
Sony is my OLED TV (and computer monitor), but, as an artist, visual storyteller, adventurer, not feeling the connection to it in the photography, video world.
Canon is in my soul since my grandfather gave me my first camera at 12 years old: a Canonflex RP. I've never owned another brand.
I waited and watched the Canon R5. In my view, there is no other pro-level hybrid camera right now (in any price range) that has:
1. "Instant on" video shooting from photography mode without moving from the EVF and
2. The most amazing photo AND video (dual pixel) autofocus and
3. One of the best IBIS systems that allows you to hand hold video with longer lenses
When firmware 1.6 hit along with credible reports that the shutdowns were (mostly) over (due to real or imagined overheating), I purchased. Been using it and testing it for about 1 week and loving it. Perfect for the way I do photography now and for the foreseeable future. It's a run and gun camera that really delivers for my types of scenarios and passions.
Delighted for you! Enjoy!
How many years are we into Canon’s R series, and still no wide primes (except for the fun but niche 16 f2.8)?
Let’s have that 24mm f1.8 macro please Canon - ASAP. Let’s have a 20mm too… and how about a 28mm while you’re at it?
And if you’re not going to… then kindly stop beating up third party manufacturers and allow them to fill the void.
Yes, please!
The R5 is not perfect but it's more than good enough for me. It does everything I need it to do, better than any other camera I've ever owned. Outstanding stills image quality. Recording limit? I don't care; I don't do long form recording. Same reason it's never overheated on me. Actually, I use the R6 for video; its 4K, being downsampled from 5.1K, is actually better than the R5's non-HQ 4K.
But, hold that thought. What about 8K? Don't care. AF is very good. I had Canon cameras before and didn't have to relearn everything when I finally went mirrorless. The RF lenses are fantastic, if overpriced. If I were a "serious videographer", I'd look elsewhere. But I'm not. So I didn't.
Sony and Nikon are obviously fine companies. They have their own quirks, strengths, and weaknesses. They're all tools and my Canons are the right tools for me. Your mileage may vary.
We’ll-reasoned!
I do like your real world and practical reasons for shooting video with an A7IV over the R5. Personally I think Canon shot themselves in the foot when they wanted to be the first mirrorless to have 8K. People’s reasons like downsampling and cropping really don’t make sense with the impracticalities of shooting with such a high resolution, not to mention Canon’s time limits with 8K. Besides, a well planned shoot, including shot list, removing the need to crop in post, just makes more sense and gets rid of an unnecessary extra step during the edit.
I have a few L lenses, but I am going back to Nikon with the Z7II. The R6 did not win me over, and the R5 is more than I want to spend.
New (relatively) subscriber... man you speak well !! write a book on it :) I just purchased (here two years later) my R5. And I agree with you completely. I'm thrilled because I am 99% a stills guy and landscapes / wildlife at that. It upgrades my bulging collection of EF lenses and I am very happy about that, I do however (as budget and wife allow) plan to upgrade to RF. Stunning NY shots sir, just wow!
Welcome, Robert - and thank you!
Great video as always 👌📸 what’s the best budget full frame camera for using manual focus voigtlander lenses ?? Nikon z line?? Or a Panasonic s5? I don’t shoot video
The S5 is on sale right now for $1,500; that’s a great price and I like it better than the Z5. OTOH, a Nikon Z6 or Z6 II has a better EVF.
Thank you for a real world use review, especially keeping the every-person in mind!!!
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I love my R6. I don’t shoot video at all. In fact, I have never even touched the red button and have no desire or curiosity to do so. My IPhone 13Pro is good enough for any family/travel video I take. I also don’t crop any of my photos. So the 20mp is more than lovely enough for the travel, street and family photography I do and the prints I make, which have never exceeded 24x36-ish and only a couple of prints that big. The 45mp of the R5 would be a waste of file size and money for me. I like that the R6 uses the same exact sensor as the old 1DX Mk III that gives me those pleasant classic Canon colors I was used to with my 5DMkIII, with much better low light performance and even nicer tonality that the old flagship Canon was noted for. I find this more important than resolution. It even has the flagship DSLR’s Digic X processor. AF is amazingly good. Ergonomics are the best I’ve felt. I like the mode dial better than the LCD screen and the twin SD cards rather than the mismatched CF Express- SD. And I especially like the price as compared to the R5, which allowed me to spend my money on RF glass. I have the 24-105 f/4 and the astonishing 50 f/1.2. That is the kit I will travel the world with with my family. I may add the RF 100mm 2.8 macro, but that’s it. I see myself still passionately enjoying this camera a decade from now. If I hit the Powerball, then I’ll get the Leica M11 with the 50 apo and play Henri Cartier-Bresson on the streets of Europe. But I will never sell the R6.
So all this does is encourage me to go to KEH and pick up an Olympus OMD EM1 MK2 and the 12-45 f2.8 and the 12-25 f4 zooms for my hybrid needs. My canon RP will likely be replaced with the R6 or the unicorn R7. Maybe Canon will upgrade my EF 17-40 f4 to the RF version, and where’s a decent 28mm f2/2.8 and a 50 f1.4 that’s sharp and renders nicely? I like the 85 f1.8 but it’s not much better than EF version. Canon needs to copy Nikon with some nice mid range primes. I never use my f2.8 zooms unless I have to. The f4 zooms and fast primes approach has served me well for 25+ years. I’m no pro but I know what I like. Maybe a divorce would be cheaper / better.
You should look up the review of that 85 stm lens, its super sharp.
Great, educational video. For me, it was the FTZ adapter and ten well loved Nikkor primes (20 mm f/4 through 500 mm reflex f/8) that tipped me to the Z7 in fall of 2019. Now, with five Z lenses to accompany my Z7, and a Z9 on order, I'm curious about what Canon, Sony, Fuji and Panasonic are doing, but I've got plenty of fun challenges to grow with in the Nikon system. I loved your photos in this video, ... as usual.
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Thanks for sharing your opinions.
Agreed that switching to video is awkward (and R5 awkwardness does not end there) but some of the things you cover in the video are just factually incorrect.
For example, you don't have to press the MODE dial again once you've selected video. Plus, you can set a button to one-touch start recording.
The iso dial in M - not sure what you mean. Each dial controls a setting from the exposure triangle. Plus you have one spare. You can customize them all.
It sounds to me that you did not spend that much time with the camera to learn it because, assume, you prefer controls from other manufacturers. This is absolutely fine btw. But this video is like me talking about a Ferrari. I once sat in one, does not mean I know the car or its capabilities very well. Plus might talk about different tires purely based on price and spec and conclude which ones are good and which are bad while I'm at it. 😉
Thanks for your considerable effort !
Quick Comment: You say you used an A74 to make the video but in the "Gear Used" section you link an R5. Maybe not in doors, but the A74 overheats outside just as fast as the R5. With the 4k60 crop the Canon R7 is more comparable to the A74 in terms of the 4k oversample from 7k without overheating indoors and cost $1100 less. For video the A74 is missing a few the video features the R5 has that shooters would want like no crop 4k 60 and 4k 120. And for photos the A74 can not match the $1499 R7.
Typo
@@3BMEP huh
Man am I glad I never hit the video button on my R5. It is a superior tool in photography. I feel for those "content creators". That's not my camp.
I use my R5 strictly for run and gun video and use my R for photography.
The Sony A74 overheats
Please do an R5c review.
This camera can do a whole lot more, because it can be set up a lot better. For instance, I use the M-Fn button for instant 1-click photo/video switching.
Where do you set your ISO?
@@3BMEP I'm personally using the ring around the SET button for ISO (although I set it to limited auto most of the time), the rear dial for aperture and the top dial for shutter speed. Exposure compensation using the control ring on the lenses. That about covers it for me.
@@tom_corremans thanks for sharing. That same setup for me would go against half a century of muscle me
memory - but that IS just me. 😊🖖🏻
Sorry, Hugh, I like you a lot, but here you are reverse engineering your arguments to justify your biases, like, starting from the fixed premise : I don't like Canon that much, I am a Sony-Leica boy, so I am going to twist and tweak my arguments in reverse starting from that. First of all, you are the only one that states that A74 is a , quote, vastly superior " video camera, and you nitpick two features, like the video-photo switch and the hdmi port. They are not even in the same league. R5 compares to RED and Alexa, Sony A1, Nikon Z9, but NOT with an A74. You guys are switching the posts of arguments in an incredible way. So when Canon had a crop on video it was the end of the world, yew, how can Canon cripple like this, what a bummer, but when A74 has a crop on 4k60, not a big deal, we find workarounds. When Sonys were overheating in their prior models, again, wasn't a big deal for you, we can find workarounds you were saying, we care about the amazing image quality of A7r2( for example) , we can take the overheating. Now that Canon overheats, OMG, the end of the world, non usable, stay away from it like from the plague. And the recording limit, pretty much the same. None of you ever mention that BY SIMPLY ATTACHING AN ATOMOS NINJA to the top of the Canon you solve the problem of overheating, the problem of limit recording time, the problem of prores codex, etc. The R5 has a VAAAAASTLY superior design and ergonomics vs any Sony, vastly superior image stabilization ( which is a huge deal, as basically spares you the nightmarish setup and cumbersomeness of gimbals-I hate them with a passion), is a better photography camera than most Sonys, and, unless you want for some unexplainable reason to film long 8k videos in the studio, for UA-cam, INTERNALLY ( cause with Atomos it works) , Canon Eos r5 is just ABOUT THE PERFECT BEAST OF A CAMERA. So it is Sony A1, so it is Nikon Z9, but they are more expensive and, frankly, Canon looks much sexier and better.
With that being said, excuse my venting, I like you guys a lot, keep doing the great job
All good! I don’t agree with you, but you disagree with me in a civilized way so - there you go. 😊🖖🏻
haters gonna hate lol
Painful true insight but Canon and it eco system is my drug of choice. Like a bad marriage it too costly to divorce now and lose half. I professionally shot with an R6 I use an R , RP and a 90D. My L lens are good but expensive. Even after 3years the rf mount could use more versatility. My business partner uses Sony. I am often feeling like a creep looking over the fence at my neighbors wife as I often look through his camera bag when he is away 😜
The biggest problem with Canon (Mirrorless or the old DSLR era) is the price, extremely Expensive. I'm from Canon DSLR, but I always buy used Dslr because buy new was imposible. I switch to Sony A7III for less than $1,900 I buy a New camera and adapter and use new EF lenses, 2 after I buy Sigma Art lenses (35mm, 85mm, 24-70mm) and one Tamron 17-28mm. In Canon ecosystem I can't never buy all this equipment, because is extremely Expensive. The greed of Canon is incredible. They don't improve the technology, example: Canon 6D, for 6D mk II they just move some of the performance/technology of 5D MK III and put inside the "new" Canon 6D mk II and rise the price. There nothing New in the Canon 6D mk II. The same in his APS-C series. They play games with his customers. Sony in other hand make Real improvement from one model to the other that why now I have Canon and never return to Canon and I'm not the only one. Canon can't never return to his old Glory of the DSLR era. Is like the story of Blockbuster/Netflix in movie or Border's/Amazon in book-magazine. Appear a New company with new and better technology at better price and the old company lost the market or comes in the second place. 🏁
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R5 trumps a7iv every day of the week 😂
The two versions of the EF 24-105 L lenses i had were terrible, struggling even at 18mp. Just got a R5 but i cant trust Canon to buy the RF 24-105 I cant be conned for a third time
I LOVE My R5... granted I don't do much video....
That’s all that matters: that YOU enjoy it! Delighted for you! 🖖🏻
@@3BMEP I love your channel!!
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Three, Wow. gorgoeus ! 😈
2 years later R5 still has lock up problem, Canon doesn't know how to fix it, what shame!
My M11 picture quialty is superior to my canon eos r5
Agreed.