The 5 Things We Need In Elden Ring DLC
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- 0:00 When to expect the dlc?
3:44 It needs to be huge
8:04 Weapons and spells
12:32 PvP
16:34 The ideal invasion
19:12 Story
23:42 Bosses
Thumbnail art by Twitter user: @00oSamio00 - Ігри
If only the coliseums were actual little dungeons we could've explored in the overworld, fightclubs would've naturally coalesced around them. From's always just on the cusp of having really good pvp.
this is why the pvp is never going to be what you want, it was never about fightclubs, it was about invasions nothing more
@@morgannyan2738 of course it's about invasions. Doesn't change the fact that 6 player limit and some little effort from the host and "organic" NO PASSWORD fightclubs were possible in DS3... Also, even 6 player TRC invasions where, because you're playing with random invaders AND sometimes random (imagine) phantoms, you could've ended with TEN players in your "recent session" if the invasion was long and turnover on summons on both sides was high. So, even if it's about invasions? Doesn't happen in ER.
@@justaquietpeacefuldance Leave it to the souls fanboys to suck the fun out of the games they play
@@morgannyan2738 gentlemen's fightclubs and diegetic invasions can cohabitate in the pvp scene, having the community claim a space as an arena was always one of the early joys of 1st/2nd playthroughs.
@@Coypop ask miyazaki if he thinks fightclubs belong in his games
Considering Elden Ring has an abundance of content, I'd love a mirror of Sekiro Gauntlets in Elden Ring. The ability to continually rechallenge bosses deep in the end-game compelled me to keep replaying Sekiro; there was no wait to jump into the content I enjoyed most about the game.
Sekiro doesn't exist in Fromsoft mind
Id rather have bonefire aesthetics back with additional encounters &rewards for ng+ rounds
@@johnf817 Because even dark souls 1 outsold sekiro.
Sekiro won game of the year. It did not win game sales though on par with their dark souls 1 game.... It was a business decision based on sales numbers
"...I wish they were longer and harder." -Ratatoskr
I'm hoping that the expanded time between ER's release and the DLC compared to earlier FromSoftware games is a sign of reduced development crunching after the mess that was pandemic lockdowns. The devs that work on our favorite games really do deserve to not feel the constant pressure of a million fans that anticipate everything you do to be beyond perfect.
What studios with a milion-strong fanbase are working hard to be beyond perfect? Guys working on Hollow Knight 2?
'Cause even FromSoft's testing us with that garbo open world right now and I'm looking like - WHAT?
Reduced crunch? In Japan? That is a dream that simply can't be achieved
hot take... I think modern employees are too comfy, lazy, and incompetent. I wish we had more passionate ppl again.
@@deskmanatee That is not a hot take. It is just a stupid one. They are not passionate because they are lazy. They are overworked, underapaid in the midlle of an economical collapse.
@@deskmanateeThankfully what you think is immaterial.
I hope they try a lot of new stuff with mini dungeons. Some of them really stuck out to me. Like the one that was repeating room deja vu and the one where you teleport around with chests were the most memorable.
yeah, that one was great. i actually went all the way back to the start of it before i realized what was going on because i thought i was going nuts. love stuff like that.
I also love the almost completely virtical dungeon in Limgrave, the flooded area at the bottom was super atmospheric
Same! And how about finding the exact replica of the lost table of grace in Lyndell? That shit blew me away!
The one with the teleporting chests and the one where you fight an Omen and then later find a dead Omen in its place even though its a completely different layer absolutely blew my mind. Also, the ones with the chariots were surprisingly cool.
The prison one in Caelid was also super cool imo.
It would be nice to have elements in the DLC that change things in the base game. Kind of like what happens with Sif if we decide to save him.
100 percent this. More of the same is great, but if the DLC can somehow reinvigorate the base game that would be a real achievement
Yeah, imagine, beating DLC and then progressing the main game again to look for what changed! That would be freaking awesome. May be we could save someone...
Would be cool to see how the Seluvis ending actually plays out if Ranni accepts the amber draught. It''s a shame there's no real consequence to it so it would be nice to get a puppet ending or something, even getting Ranni''s puppet at the end of the questline
@@zaine117 how dare you even think of it! You dirty doll botherer!
Bro at this point I think they're just going to add a new layer to the entire map and call it a DLC when its really Elden Ring 2. Imagine time traveling to a new version of the entire map to explore again
I REALLY just want an "Aspect of the Crucible: Wings" attack already. We only get three out of the five Aspects we see the Crucible Knights use. The Aspects we get to use being the Horns, Tail, and Breath but the Crucible Knights also have a Wing-Dive type attack and a Talon type grab attack. Also a Seal that specifically boosts the Aspects even further (stacking with the armor) would be neat since without the armor and really high FTH the damage is really lack luster and with both it's only average at best. They're fun and visually amazing, but struggle in actual utility. Saying this as a guy who's favorite build is essentially a Crucible Knight cosplay, so I know.
You're sitting here hoping for a single attack animation?
16:45 is the only point that matters.
I have no idea what they could have possibly been thinking, by removing the concept of impromptu invasions, literally THE most distinguishable factor that separates a GREAT Souls game, from any amateur hour souls-like.
Without proper invasions, Elden Ring has no soul.
@@realityvanguard2052 Uh, yeah? I rather touch on things few people ever bring up or wish for. Everyone else has already beaten that dead horse to a pulp regarding invasions it doesn't bear repeating for the five thousandth time in this comment section alone. I agree with the wider view that solo host invasions should still be a thing, doesn't mean I have to chest thump about it like literally everyone else when thousands upon thousands of people have already brought it up and talked the point to death.
@@ThatGuyOrby yea! Faken hell, can't even have a decent PvE take w/o catching some dirt.
Do you hate invaders? SHOW ME THAT YOU DON'T HATE REDS! Lil' invader-hater 😤 😂
If you haven't made a crucible knight build at least once in Elden ring have you even played the game? Lol
Don’t forget the stomp they do. I hope to God they don’t have that as an AoW. It would make much more sense as a spell imo, because putting it on a unique new crucible weapon would just be underwhelming, even if some uniques are (cough cough DRAGON GREATCLAW)
As long as they give the new mini-dungeons a different aesthetic I think people will love them. They began feeling monotonous in the base game, but the expansion shouldn’t have that issue because it’s gonna have a quarter of the base-game’s content at most.
I woulsnt be so sure. 2 years is a long time for a dlc. Im guessing it might be 1/3 of thr base game size. Who knows but yeah it has to be big given thr base game size
I think it's gonna be more than a quarter. Not enormous or as big/bigger than base, but I think they are gonna do something ambitious for the game they are most proud of. Also they said they decided to combine the 2 dlc's it was originally supposed to be. I think originally the dlcs on their own would have had to be pretty big for people to not be let down in elden ring. People expect the dlcs to be big with this game, so them combined is bound to be more than a quarter of the size imo
@@andrewcarr5214 When did fromsoft say that? Everything I've heard is that they announced it and then complete silence on it
As long as dungeons serve a purpose they can be really cool, the death touched catacombs isn't even a good dungeon but it's one of my all time favorites just because it introduces you to the concept of deathroot and those who live in death. The ruins strewn precipice is another really good example, it starts in Liurnia and ends in Altus Plateau, it feels like an actual level instead of just a cave, plus the cave has really good atmosphere, you keep climbing in and out of the cliff face and half of the cave takes place in open air climbing across scaffolding and ruins. If they use dungeons to tell a small story or stick to a concrete theme then they can make them way better
@@JordiDiezN I believe Miyazaki said in a past interview that for elden ring the development had 2 paid DLC's in mind, and before elden ring released the game was originally was supposed to launch with a season pass for the multiple dlc's but got scrapped. You could argue that the 2nd dlc was just the colloseums but I don't think they would have made us pay for that considering how small and simple to implement that is, Miyazaki knows when he says "elden ring dlc" the thing that comes to our mind isn't just more convenient pvp, so I think the 2 dlcs were merged. Also because of how long its been would make sense to me. So yeah I guess they never actually said they combined them, I'm just heavily assuming they did.
Fight clubs and endless gank fights are still going strong in DS3. I got invaded a few times throughtout my playthrough as well. Anyone reading this install DS3 right now and PVP. So. Much. Fun.
I did and it's all people using exploits to get heals off for free and cancel attacks
@@AdamSmasherReal I have to agree with you. Honest Merchant and estus cancel are requirements at this point.
That may be true for console, but not pc
@@valravnsshadow9422 as someone who has both, definetly for console, not at all for pc. On pc way more glitch abusers and way less total pvpers
I'm currently playing through DS3 and yeah it is still active af. Ringed City is full of pvp
I fell so in love with the Leyndell subterranean shunning grounds that I used to spend hours just helping guide people through to the end. I would also be smashing away at the back of the room after Mogh hoping it would point out the secret door at the end of his boss room for who I was helping
Dude. There are literally so many moments like these in elden ring.
It brings me back to some moments😂
I always got lost in that shithole 😂
You mentioning the Siofra River, makes me imagine the DLC expanding the underground portion of the map. A whole new area could easily fit between the three already down there, and possibly connect them all together
There is a whole area under mountaintops that could exsist
I think we can go both down and up. An important part of this game seems to be the celestial bodies.
The current map contains the entirety of the lands between. I really wonder what they are going to do.
I just hope the expansion is not just like a separate world that you access through a portal (like Oolacile) and feels naturally connected to the lands between
Would love some sort of Empyrean Shadow questline and rewards. I miss Covenants so badly. I'd love more transformations like we had back in Bloodborne, with the Rune of the Beast and Broccoli Head. Definitely need better armor sets, maybe a new weapon type or two.
Seconded about the transformations. I felt like they were already setting up for it with the shadows and with the lore around dragon communion in the base game, and was sorta bummed that it came to nothing. Would love to see it realized.
Turning into an omen akin yo sanguine nobles, or the humanoid erdtree gaurdians which use the tree spears. It would be sick.
I'm a non-pvper, I demand a return to unwilling invasions. It added a significant feeling of peril to progression.
No thanks.
@@GrayaldL take
l take. invasions make the world feel alive@@Grayald
killing an invader in sens fortress was one of my fav ds1 moments
I'm fine with invasions until you get a dude who's so sweaty he cares more about winning at any cost than having a good fight.
Well there was no announcement at the game awards😂
Any day now 🤡🤡
What I want from the DLC is a proper frenzy boss that uses and drops the chaos blade. The chaos blade is such a good fit with frenzy I was really surprised when it wasn't in the game so hopefully it'll be in this expansion.
It would be cool to see chaos blade, but I’m not sure how it would fit in with frenzy. It would have to be completely redesigned, and at that point I think it stops being the iconic weapon it always was.
It would make more sense for it to be some sort of ode to Okina, perhaps a sword crafted for him by his disciples, but before he could receive it, he abandoned them for Mohg. Or that it is a prized possession of his disciples, who feel the bite of Okina’s blade in every swing as they journey to die at his hands (hence the self-dmg on hit).
Some sort of fingerprint katana as a spiritual successor would make perfect sense, with some sort of smudgy fingerprint hamon texture.
Some sort of fingerprint katana as a spiritual successor would make perfect sense, with some sort of smudgy fingerprint hamon texture.
Katana haters fuming at this comment but I want all new weeb shit. More land of reeds armor, weapons, give me all of it. Bring back the Iaito R2 you fucking cowards
Oddly enough, I really wanna an expansion on the Ancestral Followers, the Regal Ancestor Spirit is my favorite boss and I’m really interested and their culture and role in the story
I wish that too but I don’t think it hit well enough to make a new dlc. My gues is the badlands which is pretty basic
The first time I fought the Ancestor Spirit, I had chills. That music is incredible and perfectly fits with the fight 🔥
I agree we really don't have much to do with them in general I would like an npc to talk too.
Also best soundtrack
I'm in agreement, I'd also add an expansion on the bloodstar and eochad
I miss puzzle/gimmick bosses. I know they aren't the most popular but as a huge Legend of Zelda fan I like bosses that you need to outwit. There's a couple in Elden Ring like the first phase of Renala or the invisible mini-bosses.
Demon's Souls had some really cool ones. Figuring out that the Old Hero was blind or that the Fool's Idol would keep respawning if you didn't kill the NPC that kept reviving her were some of my favorites from that game
Fromsoft likes them too, as they continue including them.
I really think it would have been best for the Rykard boss, if player has to go out their way to locate mythic serpent killing weapon, and then return. He is optional anyway and side quest of searching ancient serpent-slaying spear would have been better than just handing it out.
the expansion needs to be 50 hours of traversing more shunning grounds, no debate allowed on this 😤
and when you leave those shunning grounds they need to let you take ranni and Melina on dates in nice places 😤
"they need to let you take ranni and Melina on dates in nice places"
So, just turn right back around and go into Shunning Grounds 2?
Games nowadays are not even 50hrs long, thats sum expectations buddy
@@washedupazir2873knowing darks souls dlc that be a bare minimum
I think it will be more of a expansion than a DLC.
@@washedupazir2873How did you not understand that this comment was a joke
I think it's also worth mentioning that Fromsoft had said shortly after the release of Elden Ring that they didn't have plans to release "DLC" for the game. After Shadow of The Erdtree was announced, a lot of people speculated that either they had changed their plans because of the success of the game, or that they were lying about their plans early on, but I actually think they were deliberately drawing a distinction between "DLC" and "expansion".
Honestly, i really like the mini dungeons, they are easily accessible meaning that if theres an item in that dungeon, you can get it, and if there isn't, just ignore that dungeon. And what i like more about them over chalice dungeon is that theres always... something in them, some kind of item or spirit, and not just a boring ass damage up gem that you "might" get.
What I want is simple stuff tbh, like new instances of classic FromSoft tropes such as the long drop through a cylindrical shaft into a boss fight arena (think Four Kings, Burnt Ivory King and Demon Prince). Not the deepest stuff but I like such things XD
I'd also like for more asymmetrical dual wielded weapons or movesets, like maybe give us a shield that unlocks a Valorhart-ish moveset when wielded alongside a dagger weapon.
plummeting down the tornado in Faram Azula?
@@mkv2718 falling down the Erdtree and ending up in Ash Lake
Bubble sorceries, a trip to the moon, meeting Marika in some way(maybe her spirit), meeting Mogh's fav femboy Miquella, meeting the witch Renna, visiting Eochaid and finding some sick weapons, hybrid talismans for sorcery/ miracles.
Going to the moon bc Miquella needs Ranni's Great Rune for something, oh mah gah it'd be badass
@@paralam2175I’d imagine you’d get there by dreaming with some ritual incense item 👁
Aren't Renna and Ranni the same person though? Or did I misunderstand that?
@@Spearced Renna was the Snow Witch, Ranni's mentor who showed/revealed her her Dark Moon. Ranni now inhabits a doll made in the image of Renna.
Ranni introduces herself as Renna in Church of Elleh to stay incognito. Similar to how Morgott calls himself Margit.
Yes to all that
A very good wish list. Yeah - the DLCs on every game have consistently been the best parts. I would love the ER equivalent of the Ringed City, with as clear a theme as Ashes of Ariandel, and all the bells and whistles mentioned in this video.
Indeed we need expansions for many things in the game, I personally would love more Briars and Blood spells and incantations. Maybe they could expand on the outer gods. They'd be making my christmas if they added the Rot God and Formless Mother.
Isnt Melania the Rot Goddess?
@@HellionSol Man, you're out of the loop.
@@asdergold1 yeah mb for being a little confused about elden ring lore lol
I did solo kill that bitch tho
We are in agreement my friend, if we don't get more lore/spells for the bloodstar or eochad I'll be enraged.
@charleshastings7260 Nah, I'd say its not even enough.
My number 1 wish when it comes to weapons/spells is to have Morgotts summoned weapons, they look so freaking awesome and it was so dissapointing that there's no way to use them yourself.
They could be either standalone incantations or maybe a weapon of its own with light attacks being sword swipes, heavy attacks could be the hammer, maybe the block button could be used to throw daggers and then the ash of war would be one of those long combos he does with all 3 of them.
Also weird suggestion but add a way for the player to become an omen. Maybe some sidequest or secret mini dungeon associated with it. Think how you could turn into a hollow in DS3 or use the dragon stones in any of the games. That way you could complete a Morgott/Mohg cosplay that right now looks kind of silly.
But that wouldn't be lore accurate. You don't become an Omen you are born as an Omen
@@victorprati7908 That we know of, sure. But I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be possible to be cursed to become one. Dung Eater curses people into being reborn as omens by eating their poop idk shit's weird.
Technically, you can use them, just not in summoned form. They're all actual weapons that are in the game.
@@thecuza9716 i apologize if i am wrong but they also have one interesting implication, all of them seem to be erdtree/golden order related (the giant crusher, the erdsteel dagger and erdtree spear) but the sword looks like a carian knight's, like you can even see the little glintstone on the blade, considering morgott wasn't one of rennala and radagon's children it makes it strange that he would use that
@@ridori7376 He ate their soul. He's based on a Kappa. In ancient japan, souls are believed to be stored in your rectum.
Subterranean Shunning Grounds is like a Caria Manor/Morne/Shaded Castle tier dungeon. The most expansive dungeon of this tier in the game
@charleshastings7260 leyndell>sewers>shunning grounds> deeproot depths or leyndell catacombs
What we need is an update to the existing open world player limit to 6 and make taunters tongue not able to be disabled when in multiplayer
It would be nice QoL but I wouldnt hold my breath. Multiplayer feels like a second thought because it likely is
We need more single players content, everything else is not that important for this game
@@wanderer8038 Multiplayer is what kept most of the other fromsoft games alive for years after they stopped getting updates.
Can the community do something????? Like bro yall saying that but how can we have a inpact and be heard ?????
I have this question cuzz elden ring needs only some bits changed and would make the game perfect
@@wanderer8038Single player content will be there REGARDLESS, you fake purest are so annoying with that shit. It’s not one or the other. Yeah, they have to add more to the GAME, just because they make multiplayer more seamless doesn’t mean Ooohhh let’s add absolutely no content to the base game and it’s lore, that’s a retarded narrow minded way to think. It’s not Multiplayer vs Single player…. At this point single player isn’t even a thing, it’s just THE GAME… 6 players is not even enough. Souls games need to go MMO, for them to be what it should be
I personally thought the theme was about corrupted power, every boss is a fallen twisted version of their old self, which you constantly learn about how grand and beautiful the lands once were. Most of the bosses were also screwed over by their own choices more times then not. Rot, would be the main theme I took out of Elden Ring personally.
There's also this thing about something beautiful and pure doesn't mean it's good. Like the golden order and the Erdtree, they look holy and divine but actually is a corrupt and parasite system of segregation. And the scarlet rot blooms beautiful flowers but it's also a corrupt parasite destroing and changing the land
Put a broader view to that idea and I think we've got it:
Ambition, greed, and hubris will bring about a world's demise despite best intentions. As the tarnished, we must decide if there's a better alternative.
It seems like a very plain summation, but it does open up a lot of heavy existential questions like: Is humanity worth saving? Are we destined to struggle forever? What makes life worth living? Miquella being one of the few powerful characters who might be a protagonist is situated well to better explore this central concept. The bosses we've fought so far have all lost their hope, but Miqey has real insight and plans.
No trailer in the game awards, rip
I would really like to see more imaginative weapon classes. Like a Great/Colossal Fist weapon class and a Chain-Sickle type.
#1: Glaive master hodir.
No, I didn't forget, and neither should you.
The spells I personally want from the dlc are: sleep spells and incantations and sleep weapons, and more full moon sorceries, because I feel like those weren't really explored upon, and I would also love to learn more about the full moon that renalla follows, and the dark moon that ranni follows.
Also some real banger flint stone sorcery
I've been hoping that they would remix the areas in the base game, sort of a time jump forwards or back.
After having played TotK though, I'm less interested in that now. I think it would still be cool if they did that. But I think it wouldn't have the staying power. Unless it was dramatically changed in a way we couldn't expect, it would suffer the same way Hyrule did.
I think the only thing I'm interested in now, besides the obvious Miquella stuff, is learning more about the realms of the dead that seem to have been cut off. Helphen and all of that.
Any mechanic or dungeon additions are just a nice but expected addition to more lore.
i don’t think Totk suffered for that reason. if anything suffered by being too damn big.
As cool as that’d be its been done already in literally all of their games DLCs.
I'm in agreement on more details of the realms of the dead and helphins steeple. Also would enjoy more bloodstar/eochad lore, spells, and items (don't forget more twinbird stuff too)
@@rachnussouldrinkerlibraria5640 I doubt they'll go into Eochaid. It's basically Ireland. It serves as background flavor for Godfrey's story with Elemer's story laying clues about Godfrey's background.
Godfrey raided it ala 8th century viking raids on monastery towns and killed almost everyone in Elemer's home. Elemer came to the Lands Between for revenge but Godfrey was nowhere to be found since he had been banished.
The thing that relates to this more broadly that I do hope we get more info about is the position of the Lands Between. It seems to exist somewhere between life and death. So is it a dream? Something else? How is it that people can make their way to and from there when, seemingly, you have to die to get there in the first place?
@@rainbowkrampus oh really? Most people seem to refer to eochad as being more like Sparta than ireland
As far as explaining the story. There was a very early leak before Elden Ring was announced in which the leaker talked about FromSoftware working on a new open world game. He said there was someone famous behind the story and the game would have horseback riding amongst other things. The leak was pretty credible since a lot of things it predicted ended up coming true. One of the other things he predicted was that the open world game (Elden Ring) would be part of a new trilogy. If true its likely they're planning on saving a lot of the story for the next games.
That would make a lot of sense for how hard it is to work out Martin's contributions. Him plotting out several generations of demigod familial in-fighting feels like it plays to his strengths and wouldn't be super apparent without the full context.
I doubt they’ll turn ER into a trilogy, it’s story’s finished. What plotlines are left to close?
@@thebigenchilada678 No idea, but they're clearly not finished finished because the biggest DLC they've ever made is still coming. Maybe it's a trilogy in the sense that there will be two large DLC expansions to the base game that expands the story, perhaps by going backwards in time like the Oolacile DLC in DS?
@@jtillman8251 @thebigenchilada678 The leak was very old (just before DS3's final DLC so 2016), there's a good chance things have changed since then. But its crazy how many things the guy predicted. Like I said, he predicted Martin would be writing the backstory, he also predected a new armored core game and Sekiro.
If you're interested there's a video going over it on youtube called "Elden Ring Sequel Confirmed - Verified Leak"
@@thebigenchilada678Dark Souls was originally a standalone game. Yet here we are with a trilogy. The sequels did little more than reiterate the main plot of the first. I believe there's a lot more inbuilt potential for follow-ups in the world of Elden Ring than Dark Souls, and Miyazaki has stated in an interview that certain parts of the story have been reserved for future games (could be a translation error and he's referring to DLC but can't be sure of that either). To me it seems unlikely FromSoft would go to such an esteemed writer to develop a backstory for a single title. I think it's very possible this mythos George RR Martin wrote could be intended for multiple titles. The story could develop in ways we can't predict, and there is solid evidence to suggest sequels.
Ultimately this reply is longer than I intended but I'm excited for whatever they release. ER related or not.
Something to dream about: we find Malenia sleeping and dreaming at the base of the Haligtree. What if there is a dream version of Malenia in the DLC? Maybe accessible only if you don't defeat Malenia in the base game
This shit ain’t Hollow Knight 😭
We kill everybody here. No simping route for you
Or maybe they can add new bosses.
@@nomongosinthaworldlmaoooo
Wrong, only accessible if you completed the Millicent questline and ended with the Miquella's needle. That's what I want
I want more hybrid spells and weapons. Something like the DS hex builds where you had 40int/40faith
Elden ring definitely needs something akin to Talisman of beasts from Demon's souls and Crystal chime from ds3. Ds2 also had Witches staff. Something that would help me not have to switch weapons for whatever is a incantation or sorcery.
Faith and int on their own feel great, but faith/int got left behind. Holy damage sucks :/
Ratatoskr list:
1. There have to be up to six dudes with me👨👨👦👦
2. I have to get FUCKED UP 🌚
3. It has to be magical ✨
4. Take me to the dungeon ⛓️
5. Big homies gotta be HARD 💀
6. Gotta be cultured 🤓
7. 6 feet and higher
Bro same
I see what you are doing there
One thing I'll want in the DLC is more uses for stuff like the prism stones and glowstones. I remember using a glowstone to see what's below a deep crevice in a cave just to see a bunch of enemies that otherwise would have ambushed me.
Prism stones saved my ass in the shunning grounds and I often use glow stones as I enter boss arenas in the catacombs as those are usually dark cause it looks cool
I always thought that the main theme of Elden Ring was choice and accountability, and the tragedy of having your personal freedom taken away.
The whole Ranni questline is about not letting something else decide your fate, from the minutia of the quest to the very conclusion. Ranni creates a new order but she and the player take that order and leave the world, creating a greater distance so that the people would have the ability to make their own decisions and not have their lives ruled by it, while still allowing the new order to fix the broken world and create a semblance of structure. The greatest tragedy in the whole quest is when we find out Blaidd is unwillingly beholden to the Two Fingers and ends up going mad, prompting us to kill him to defend ourselves and sparing him the shame and indignity of slaying a loved one with his own, unwilling hands; killing him at this point is a mercy.
It is further expanded upon by the idea of systems of power that the main players of the Lands Between try to impose upon the world and its people; gods and demigods trying to enforce THEIR rules on everybody, whether they like it or not.
To further expand upon that, the main flaw of a few of the most important characters and mandatory bosses, Maliketh and Morgott, is blind, unthinking loyalty, and they are punished for that. At the same time, they themselves are victims of the rigid, uncaring systems and key figures they are so unflinchingly devoted to.
You're definitely right that the tragedy of power literally or metaphorically enslaving people is one of the biggest themes, _(eg. Rykard pursues it out of desparation, the twin prodigies are literally cursed with theirs, rennala is driven mad by it and speculatively may have rebirthed herself)_ but Elden Ring is so big I don't think it can be _fully_ boiled down in any way in the way Dark Souls was. Unlike From's previous games, Elden Ring isn't one singular fable, it's a full world where various separate character's stories play out
faken hell, wish some of it played out while I was playing ;)
@@darthvaderreviews6926 It's certainly true that ER tackles a host of themes, though I do think that the previous games did too, even if to a lesser extent. I still think that the value of having control over one's own fate, the very ability to make your own choices, is at the heart of the story's themes. Apart from the already mentioned NPCs, the other ones also support this. Whether it's via unflinchingly pursuing your own dreams (Alexander), or not letting your pride and sense of self wither away(Millicent and Malenia, though the latter failed), personal choice and identity is always at the forefront. Rykard's story is basically a darker, more twisted interpretation of that same idea, which I think in part is meant to provide some nuance to it.
Aight
Considering Dark souls already touches on the themes of choice & stolen freedom quite a lot, I don't feel like they are at the centre here. accountability could be within the main theme tho.
I'd sooner say based on my interpretations of the overall lore, which isn't close enough to most mainstream ideas. That the theme is more to do with the constant fight for ultimate dominance over all the world by a single power out of many & how dogmatic & controlling religion/religious worship can be over the masses. I will say I am far more biased to naturally be thinking this way now more so than when I originally thought of this a little, due to the state of the world being heavily affected by these same issues.
I just want the player cap to go up so I can actually get a co-invader more than once in a fun-police-colored moon.
Imagine if you can get an ash of war that lets you cast spells
That would be AWESOME... not only could regular weapons serve as adequate spellcasting but the really good staves and talismans could facilitate really good casting for both.
I assume you mean more ashes of war that lets you cast spells. There are a handful already.
That would be perfect. one for spells and one for incantations.
Much better than the way Blue Flame or Immolation Tinder works, where it just turns the heavy attack button into the spell button.
@@smokinggnu6584 think more like, the action of spellcasting that staffs have - as an ash of war. So you don't choose what Ash of war uses what spell. You choose to make the weapon act as a talisman or staff with its Ash of war. And if it can be equipped on talismans and staves now each can cast both types of spells. Maybe it only uses 60% of the magic scaling or something to balance it out.
@@chainclaw07 that makes more sense and could be an interesting concept. In that case i'd ask for ashes of war to be put on staffs and seals, so you could use them melee combat and possibly change affinities on them.
one thing i really want is post ending scenarios, like after doing the frenzy flame ending everyone is mad, or after ranni's ending everyone is shivering, and there is a huge moon.
also umm, death blight buff i guess.
The Chrono Trigger music in an Elden Ring video really threw me and twisted my brain and senses to a degree I didn't think possible....in one of the best ways possible.
Great selection of music, it's appreciated and we notice.
Never played any of the old dark souls pvp in their primes but the way you described how covenants worked and the fight clubs, man that got me so excited, hope this stuff eventually finds it way into elden ring itd be literally amazing.
Fight clubs were cool but covenants were crap. They locked gear behind pvp or a horrible grind making it virtually impossible for pvers to get it.
No, covenants were amazing. Especially Aldrich's Faithful and Darkmoon Hunters in Irithyll, aka, gank city.
I thought the theme was pretty straightforward, really: try as we may, *nothing* we build lasts forever. Unless everything devolves into chaos, there will always be a rise and fall, and there's very little we can do about it. People will either unable or unwilling to play the part they were meant to play for something to last. Absolute balance is death; but then again, so is chaos, and thus the endless cycle of rising and falling. And when things fall, they seldom do so gracefully.
Yet in Elden Ring, Greater Will is literally god of perfection, encapsulated by the immutable element of gold.
World would have lasted forever too, if Marika was what she claimed to be, and not fire-giant half-breed plagued by schizophrenia.
Nice video as always!!
7:53 The ranting followed by a loading screen gave me KEKs
God I hope Armored Core gets some DLC
Luckily they said we will be getting more armored core games moving forward. Bandai wants to further the franchise
We will have armoured core 7 and hopefully more. To me ng++ felt almost like dlc
I don't think that it will get DLC, but Armored Core 7 seems like a 100%, which is nice. AC6 was such a fun game man.
GREAT takes on the PvP stuff. Would LOVE to see covenants and fight clubs come back ❤
I fricking love your takes too, lotf pvp-theories (🤨) are quite an eye-opener too, aren't they? 🤯
A lot of people are not managing their expectations on the scope and size of this DLC and are going to be mightily disappointed, even angry at FromSoft, for not meeting those expectations.
Agree. I mean, I get it I do. Fromsoft is my favorite dev too. But people are going to kill them with impossible expectations. It seems like From is good at managing these expectations and continue to do what they want to do instead of being influenced by fans. But if the expectations get too high and it does start to affect the work it can only lead to bad things.
Three things I'd like for the expansion to include:
- A Boss rush/rematch system of some kind.
There are so many bosses that I'd love to keep fighting, but don't feel like playing through the entire game for.
- Unique area Covenants
Give us a reason to go through certain areas of the game again. What if there were mini-dungeon style invasions? What if there was a covenant dedicated to protecting animals, and invaders hunt you for killing them? What if there were open field boss covenants where invaders fight you during boss fight? The potential is endless.
- A personal desire: A Gloam Eyed Queen boss fight.
From what I understand of the lore, the GEQ was basically a goddess of death- The Godskin Cult channeled their power from her alone; Power so grand it had to be sealed away by Maliketh.
A boss that hits as hard as Maliketh, but with a Godskin aesthetic? Sign me up. We even get her weapon: Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only boss whose weapon we received before meeting them was Ludwig... and we all know the boss that came afterward.
I would love it if there were more dragons to unlock more dragon communion incantations. There are thirteen dragon communion incantations, fourteen if you include Placidusax's ruin, which is a pretty health pool of spells to chose from, but dragonfire, dragonice, glintstone breath and rotten breath are just different flavors of the same incantations, and Agheel's flame, Borealis's mist, Smarag's glintstone breath and Ekzyke's decay are just upgrades of those same spells, so in reality it only has like seven spells, literally half the magic school is the exact same spell. Still a really fun school of magic but it would be way more fun if there were more variety. I think if they were to add more dragons with different elemental types that would be a good opportunity to add unique dragon communion spells, Imagine in the base game if we found an undead skeleton dragon in the deeproot deaths, and instead of beathing fire it opened its moth to scream and dozens of deathflame wraiths came out and started homing in on you, or in the outskirts of the shaded castle you could find a putrid dragon that just vomits a massive puddle of acid onto the floor like the gaping dragon from dark souls 1. Even some of the already existing dragons have alternate attacks that I would gladly swap their dragon communion counterparts out for
Before Elden Ring was released and while I started playing it, I thought that Radahn's festival would be a duo-bossfight against Malenia and Radahn, were one of them would appear as a phantom while the other was fighting enemies in the background like if they were still "fighting in a war", and that they would keep changing who is fighting the player, similar to what the Demon Prince bossfight in the Ringed City is. I don't know how the fuck I came up with that, BUT I WANT IT
These are the five things I hope to see in the Shadow of the Erdtree DLC:
1. A third world to explore with multiple regions that is accessed through Miquella’s dream (the other two worlds being The Surface, and The Underground).
2. Miquella not being a boss, but instead an NPC that has a quest line that unlocks a new ending.
3. Giving more details on the dragon’s Outer God, the Formless Mother, the Fell God, and a possible Moon and Stars Outer God.
4. Two or more legacy dungeons with the best bosses in the game. I really hope that we get to fight Godwyn in his prime form.
5. I hope that this DLC takes place in a realm outside of time, similar to how you fight Dragonlord Placidusax.
“I don’t wanna duel, I wanna get fucked up” same bro, same
I love your point about the mini dungeons. I get that people are disappointed that they are kind of copy pasted and not super unique, but like you said I love the combat in this game so much that I'll take any excuse to play more of it. I don't mind all the repeated bosses because it gives me an opportunity to fight them again at a different stage of my character progression, with a better version of my previous build or an entirely new build. The game already has an insane amount of high quality levels and fights. At this point I value quantity of quality more because in this case the quantity IS the quality.
What I want most of all is better fashion, and preferably a knightly armor set that doesn't make you look fat. The dancer set with the Knight or Elite Knight helmet was my absolute favorite in DS3 and sadly there's just no equivalent at all.
“I wanna get f*cked up.” By far the best line in the vid haha
I miss solo invasion. I am not into playing with a coop partner. But that tension when you saw it pop it up was intoxicating
More of that blood incantations. Have them use health for blood manipulation.
8:58 honestly, if we got one I'd appreciate a transforming spear that got fire magic with its unique moveset
I want a dungeon that takes place within an actual Lake (not like Agheel lake, but an actual deep lake) that introduces hazardous sections where you have to walk through regions that are entirely flooded (because I doubt they would add swimming lets be real) with risk of "drowning" (lets just assume its deathblight water so we die if we're in it too long).
Sekiro had it, with that new & shiny jump button one could argue swimming's been cut from the game at this point 😂😂😂 - me drowning 😭
By the powers of Deathblight Waters, I plant you 🌳🤣
Sounds like you want a poison swamp. And not just any poison swamp, but deathblight swamp.
That bit about pvp was so real. I felt it in my soul. I ache to get invaded as a solo host while also having it be entirely out of my control
1. A release date
Never
Great bosses that this DLC should give us:
- The Gloam-eyed Queen
- Godwyn the Golden
- Miquella
But besides that, I hope we will get amazing new weapons, we absolutely need more scythes (One should be as Boss Weapon) and more fist, claw or whip weapons.
And most importantly, GOOD MUSIC, people know how music can change the whole boss fight. I hope they give us the best bangers in FromSoftware history just like Ludwig's and Gael's theme.
I don’t think we will. The FromSoftware Lead Composer Yuka Kitamura has moved on from her gig. Her last project was Elden Ring with the other 2 new composers. I just hope these new guys took notes from Yuka.
Godwyn won't be a boss. He's being reborn as the mending rune of death.
@@TheKacklinKraken Yuka is not the only person that made an amazing music in Elden Ring (And also other FromSoftware titles), just look at Godskin Apostles. I believe in the Music Team!
@@TheKacklinKraken Bro, Kitamura is GOATED and all, but her best track for Elden Ring was the Regal Ancestor Spirit. It's the only track of hers that comes close to the level of what Shoi Miyazawa did for this game. Shoi made Mohg, Fortissax, Radahn and Maliketh. Those tracks are actually mindblowing, especially Radahn Fortissax and Maliketh. Next level shit even for FromSoftware. They are in good hands with Shoi, especially since his style seems to suit the different tone of Elden Ring better than Kitamura's works which fit Dark Souls better.
@@Margonxp that’s why I said her last project WITH THE OTHER 2 NEW COMPOSERS 😂
14:35 that backstab lmao
Man watching the PvP cluster---- at 14:20 in Anor Londo got me so nostalgic. I miss it, and I want more.
I can’t wait for this dlc to drop. I’m so hype
More Alchemist options would be nice, like maybe a blunderbuss or a bomb lance.
I spent so much time in Anor Londo fight clubs and invading, loved it
8:41 i really appreciate the strange journey music
moments like 7:45 are why I love Ratatoskr
I’m wondering if the video just cutting like that was intentional or not
18:40 thats quite the hot take... "ignore good game design, inconvenience and frustrate EVERY PLAYER, just so I can feel that overwhelming challenge and sometimes overcome it but on average i will just lose because of the nature of the challenge.
Yer right, I felt the heat 🔥😅 turned me on, ngl.
Couldn’t agree more! On all points! Midir was my favorite boss in DS3. Even finding the boss fight was epic. I hope we get some content similar that.
The background music at the beginning is kinda fire tho.. it fits perfectly with the way you narrate
Much love rat
honestly, i know it's not gonna happen, but the number one thing i'd want is multiple levels of garment alterations, meaning that every set you can modify should have different types of possible alterations, the framework would basically also be there already
Ditto. I thought I was missing something in my first play through when I kept bringing sets to Boc and having few if any alteration options. Give us that Elden Bling!
@@Preston241 right? there's even empty slots next to the alteration options, it would be entirely possible to add different layers to the modifications, not to mention all of the sets that can't be modified in the first place, it really would be the coolest thing they could add with the dlc imo
@@andreafranco712 it could also be a way to double the amount of armor in the game without having to design twice as many suits and their stats.
great points especially in the pvp section, thx for saying it dude and hoping fromsoft hears these, especially the pvp points
It's about the vectors of personal and psychological growth. Calling it right now.
Justice for Chalice Dungeons!!! It’s an excuse to do more tense spelunking and enjoy more of bloodborne’s combat. I was always surprised that people disliked them.
they disliked them because they ignored them until they beat they game, which makes the early dungeons feel like a crappy, grinding, slog since the early ones are meant for characters at like level 30, not 60-80. when done at the points you are intended to engage with them, you never feel like you need to go grind for blood vials or levels as they fill the gaps between each of the main areas quite nicely. especially when you consoder that your progression with them saves over each ng+ cycle. when you know you’re not supposed to do them in your first game right before you beat gerhman, but do half of them throughout your first play through, and the other half in ng+, then they feel SOOOOO much better, and you can really have some fun with them.
and when you do want to grind, that’s what the random dungeons were for, but people barely used them. they also had a lot more variety than the static dungeons, and they were also great for invasions for that reason. (RANT, FEEL FREE TO IGNORE: which is a whole other topic entirely, but BB multiplayer was meant for invasions, people trying to have “no healing honor duels” in BB were just playing it wrong. your character heals if you attack fast enough after taking dmg AND you could parry heal attempts, and yet i STILL see people who will disconnect if someone heals. play Bloodborne like Bloodborne and not like Dark Souls people 🙄 instead, all my attempts to invade chalice dungeons were always cock-blocked by people using one dungeon for fight clubs that had so many banned items and techniques that it scarcely even resembled bloodborne. leave the honor duels for back with the knights in shining armor.)
I’d like you recommend you open world games of this one studio called Ubisoft.
@@unipachu if Ubisoft open world games had combat as good as bloodborne I promise you I would. But they don’t. So I won’t 😇
8:20 the Aquamarine Dagger could totally be turned into a Carian Slicer-esque ash of war, early in the game's life after finding out Carian Greatsword was both a spell and an AOW i thought they'd do something similar with an Aquamarine equivalent and Slicer
Unique movesets>>unique AoW to be put on any ordinary weapons. Right? Gang?
SOTN OST nostalgia in the background. Amazing
This is what I think will be in the DLC, and Im pretty certain:
- most of the cut content returns in some form as they didn't have time to flesh out and unbug the quests they made...the entire cut content was very interconnected and intricate, not all will show up in the dlc as some just do not function properly, but the covenants, merchant quest, st trina, return to some degree in a more completed form
- there are 2 new overworld areas and 1 underground, accessed at various points in the game;
- the middle of the map is one area (above and below), and another land entirely
- 2 big legacy dungeons, but multiple mini ones (from and to shaded castle and volcano manor size)
- the main game has a good handful of alterations and additions beyond the cut content, will be enjoyable to play new for anyone, this includes the snow areas
- there are assets from sekiro being used in one of the new areas, it is expanding upon the asian part of the lore (bloody fingers, land of reeds, etc.)
- it is very big, probably the biggest dlc ever made in terms of gameplay hours (as far as I know), but it isn't as big as elden ring itself
- it is not as repetitive as the base game (catacombs, caves, repeat bosses, etc.), it is mainly new things and unique areas, with some enemies having derivatives
- the multiplayer is being revamped, coop, pvp, and covenants
- as people guessed it deals with miquella, but also the nature elements even more (blood, deathblight, frenzy, sleep, poison) and these are even more prominent, such as causing deathblight and frenzy on enemies
- stealth is improved upon with the improvement of sleep and the increased lore around sleep
A lot of stuff was just not finished, and this related to all the status effect types:
Frenzy and the merchants quest
Blood and the bloody fingers, part of covenant things and miquellas story
Sleep with the St. Trina questline
Deathblight was just yet to be expanded upon, but it also related to covenants (Fia and D)
Poison is like a friend of rot, as seen in the talisman that boosts attack for when rot and poison are present, it was yet to be fleshed out, another example are the poison fang claw weapon meant for duelists, but all we get in the game are rotten duelists, this is also linked to the coliseums which were not added at the beginning
Rot was the only one that got fleshed out.
There are lore elements I am not totally sure about but I have some knowledge:
many of the outer gods and "status effect dieties" are just the complete one, the one great.
the three fingers existed before the golden order (The One Great) the formless mother/mother of truth has a title very similar to Shiva in hinduism which often is referred to as the complete one (the one infintie existence, even in buddhism this formlessness is seen as the true reality), and the rest all deal with death and decay of some sort. They are all just the infinite one, the one great, etc. manifesting after Marika took out the rune of death. They are not different Gods, just the same natural force of unity and oneness before the twoness and duality (themes in every spiritual path and in this game with all the double helixes). The DLC is about this unity which is inescapable, this is not overt in the dlc, still abstractly presented.
As per the increased presence of deathblight, scythes will be better and more will be added to the game.
I am pretty certain about all of the above. It is going to be $40 US, and is about 30 hours of gameplay if done quickly, about 60 for getting it all, and when adding in the multiplayer shenanigans and the greater build variety to come it is a very worthwhile dlc.
Grains of salt, remember.
I want more weapons and possible new weapon types. Bring back the dragon bone fist, fume ultra great sword or at least weapons with its vertical move set. How bout swords or twin blades that can also be used to cast magic or incantations. Want also more unique ash’s of wars, completely different animations from the current ones.
DS3's BK Weapons. Just the movesets... vertical UGS, Great Axe and Halberd/Glaive. Those charged R2s 🖤 wit da pancakes, pls 😖
DS2 was by far the best and had the proper big balls to realize it.
I wouldn't call myself a lore expert, but this is my interpretation of the overarching story of Elden Ring right now. I know its broad without a lot of details, but I think it is approaching the theme of the game. Long ago Marika became the vessel for the Greater will, but eventually was unable to bear the weight of her own actions. As a vessel for an outer god of order she was supposed to create a perfect order in the world, but couldn't because of her own mortal desires. She eventually tried to shatter herself/ The Elden Ring, but she knew that the Greater Will would not let her. I believe this is when Radagon became Marika. I also believe she had banished the tarnished before this point with the intent that they would fight each other until only one remained who would challenge the Greater Will, and inherit her power. I think the 3 mending rune endings are all about resolving contradiction's in the Order that Marika could not, but they would all maintain the the influence of the Greater Will. The first relates to the Omens. She couldn't allow Omens in her order because giving birth to mutants would contradict her divinity. The Dung Eater wants to curse everyone so that natural birth becomes the only form of birth (no more Erdtree birth) in the Lands Between. This would be a challenge to Marika's Order. The second ending relates to Godwin who died in spirit. I think Marika sees living in death as worse than death itself. He didn't "make something of himself", and his spirit is dead so he can't be reborn with the Erdtree. We know that Fia still wants to comfort Godwin in death, and that the Order/D will kill her given the chance so we can assume this is another contradiction to Marika's order. The 3rd ending relates to Radagon being Marika. We don't know exactly what Goldmask's conclusion was, but Corhyn call's it blasphemous. That is definitely a challenge to Marika's order. I suspect its simply knowing that a mortal can become a god. I believe if we approach the lore knowing that Marika tried to cover up aspects of history to maintain her order we may start finding some more answers, and I think these are good place's to start rooting out the contradictions in the lore. I would be skeptical of any text written from the perspective of the Golden Order. As for a theme of the game I think its legacy, or inheriting power. Every ending is about what you would do to the world, not for yourself like previous souls games. You can maintain the Order, change it, give it away, or burn it all down. I think Miyazaki wanted this game to be more political than his previous games, and that's why he worked with George R. R. Martin.
We're all stupid. That being said, the main themes of all these games is always tied to the gameplay, ie, they're always existentialist, about being and choices. Elden ring in particular is about choice: ludo and narrative. The way Melina's dialog at level up is so aggressively heavy handed is what finally convinced me about this.
Ratatoskr went off with this one. The crack about Frenzyguys only deserving 2 more weapons killed me, and the casual tone really compliments how serious Ratatoskr's videos tend to be
That made me chucked a bit because I was thinking "but they only have the 1" lol.
This guy has some of the best Souls content on UA-cam... Been watching since he had like 6k subs
Yeah, Ratatoskr actually is a pretty intelligent analyst and critic, in general, not just about Souls games. I was honestly shocked to find somebody this capable of reason on the internet.
Here are some of my own wishlist points:
1. SOME form of system to refight Rememberance bosses without needing NG+ cycles. Given their name I'm surprised this wasn't even in the basegame, but since Sekiro I am confident this will be in the game.
2. A new ending or "pseudo ending". Dark Souls 2 and 3 both had pseudo endings from the DLC (getting the fused crown and blood of the dark soul respectively) to have lore implications without _directly_ interfering with the clear conditions of the basegame, and Elden Ring has already set up Miquella potentially curing Godwyn and thus saving the world from deathblight as an easy example.
3. Some QoL conveniences, like maybe an NPC who can finally break down Smithing Stones to lower rarities for example
4. While I _expect_ the DLC to be hard, I will disagree with Ratatoskr that it *NEEDS* to be hard. (I mean, massively hard in relation to the rest of Elden Ring) Slave Knight Gael isn't the best boss in Fromsoft history because he's the hardest, he very arguably isn't. Lady Maria is beloved despite not even being very hard in the first place. Sister Friede is pretty fucking hard, but Phase 1/2 really aren't that bad, she is mostly a trial of endurance. I feel Fromsoft getting conscious about external expectations to make hard bosses was responsible for the unfun mechanics Malenia resorted to, (eg. hitstun cancel) and I would not be disappointed if Malenia remains Elden Ring's hardest boss. I just hope this DLC has _the most fun_ boss movesets in Elden Ring.
Yeah I hope FromSoft doesn't address any of this bs and make the hardest and fun bosses ever.
The strongest point by far here is the arguments for unwilling invasions. That was always so interesting
at this point im watching any video about the dlc even if its the same redundant idea
no way this dude just spent like 3 minutes talking about how he loves getting ganked
He is the Average FromSoftware fanboy.
"Gank me Tarnished" 😂💦
They had the perfect opportunity to make the bloody fingers and recusants watchdog style covenants for moghwyn palace and mt.gelmir but they just didn't
and it just WORKS! 🤦♀
I liked the strange journey music. Just felt a random feeling of happiness out of no where.
What's that song that plays at the beginning of this video?
What I really want is FromSoft to make the Seamless Coop Mod an official thing. Playing coop with a friend or two through Elden Ring where we have the freedom to go anywhere we want without making a new session and the freedom to split up without consequence was INCREDIBLE!!
That goes against how and why they designed the MP system. It'd be cool, but it would require a full rework of the entire co-op and invasion systems.
@@hoked2194 A cheat code that disables achievements and other multiplayer features and stuff but enables co-op would be cool
But the mod works so well that I don’t see why they’d waste resources on it tbh
Miyazaki never meant co-op to be seemless, if you think it does you missed the entire point
not the point. wont happen
Yeah would go against what they intended. Maybe for their next souls game though, be it ER2 or something else way in the future.
Yh, I totally agree. They should definitely add Curse-Rotted Greatwood from DS3.
It'd fit the 'Shadow of the Erdtree' really well
totally agree with you on the mini dungeons and caves. i always thought that its nice that i just get to fight more enemies. i dont really care if the caves or dungeons look samey because i was focused on the gameplay
Really nice use of Strange Journey music during the DLC weapon part