@@stvnbo But to be fair, while the saga is called Zero Escape, it clearly doesn't mean it in the literal sense, but in an analogy sort of way At least for the second and third game
On a note I think it's so sweet that your brother gave you a gift like that. I do not mean the game, I mean the oportunity to make 2h45m of youtube content.
The worst thing about this game by far, for me personally, is that I look almost identical to Harrison - down to the clothing style. I'll never know peace again, my friends will never let me live this down. Can't look at myself in the mirror anymore. I shall proceed to launch myself into the fucking sun
Hi! I’m the voice of Daan😂, great criticism I would say, I get the frustration man. Great video and thanks for calling my VA work okay hahaha. It was a ride to voice in this game and this was my first payed job, but I get that the game could use some guiding. I watched the whole video and I can totally understand it. I hope daan made it at least a bit more fun XP!
I genuinely respect you for being willing to sit through the video, because I think if I were in your shoes I probably would’ve had to turn it off. And I will say that Daan’s habit of randomly just saying whatever emotion he’s feeling at the end of a sentence has worked its way into how I talk because it was legitimately funny, so I think Daan was a net positive all things considered lol
Oh cool! With that attitude, you'll definitely make it in the industry and Im glad you got payed for your work! Hope to hear your performance in other works.
I'm glad you took the video well. Can't wait to see your voice acting in other projects because you did a really great job considering the script, I'd say! As a voice actor myself, I wish you nothing but the best!
You’re a damn hero, dude! Daan’s voice is absolutely my favorite and your delivery is super entertaining especially with how over the top he is! Hope you get more gifs in the future!
@@Nionivekthat’s what I’m thinking but as a Catholic I was second guessing my pronunciation on some of the other stuff. But def think he was doing it for the bit.
Hi, I'm the voice of Lumi! Daan's VA shared this with me and I watched the whole thing, which I thought this was great work! You gave some very good criticism, made me laugh (especially on the Gio part), and most of all, I respect you for playing through all 4 routes! If it was hard to sit through the Wonderland scene, believe me, I had just as hard a time voicing it. I was not expecting to do that sort of scene for Lumi at all when I was told she was the emotionless type of character lol. However, it was fun voicing for Lumi as this was my first big role in something so it will always mean so much to me! Hopefully you had fun whenever you could while playing! ❤
I’m glad you enjoyed it! I said this to Daan’s VA as well, but I admire you for being willing to sit through a video that’s pretty hostile to something you worked on, especially given that it was your first big role and I know how easy it would be to be defensive about that (and I definitely wouldn’t blame you for it either). I’m sorry to hear that the Wonderland scene was hard for you too, Lumi’s role in that scene has consistently felt very weird and out of place given everything else about her and I can imagine it wasn’t very fun to get hit with that out of left field. There were definitely some solid Lumi moments, though - as much as I thought it was a little out of character for Lumi to team up with Isak to kill Gio, I thought you did an especially good job at conveying her frustration with him and how he ruined the plan. I wish we’d gotten to see more of that side of her - there could’ve been some good opportunities for her in Greed and Lust to let the frustration at the way the contestants spiral slip out. I completely understand Lumi meaning a lot to you as well, I think we all tend to be very attached to those kinds of firsts and I’m glad it was overall a fun experience! As much as I didn’t like the game, I can definitely say that it was a lot of fun to play through in its own way - especially the Gio bit, I genuinely haven’t laughed that hard at anything in ages. I hope to see you (and your colleagues) in bigger and better projects in the future!
You did a good job and tbh, I really like your voice acting!! I just think Lumi had a LOT of potential thrown out of the window, which is such a shame because for what you've been given, you did a great job! Can't wait to see you in future projects!
Shout-out to people watching this who don't know Danganronpa and Zero Escape characters, and are just hearing a *torrent* of Japanese names that mean nothing to them as the characters are summarized. I will assure you, that everything being said makes perfect sense. ESPECIALLY "he's like if Junpei Tenmyoji from Zero Escape was ride-or-die for the thin blue line." Poetry.
I love the idea that someone is going to watch this video and then play Zero Escape to figure out why I called Daan that, I'd love to see them get to the end of ZTD just to see if they agreed when it was all said and done.
I'm a lesbian and a T1 Diabetic, so while the Gio endgame gay reveal was hysterical, what really got me was the mid-game, route dependent, secret diabetic reveal. King. Get a CGM. An insulin pump. Anything. What a madman. Dosing on vibes alone.
Here is a question I just noticed thanks to you... how is he still alive during the Trust Route? The longest a diabetic can go without any insulin is like... two weeks in the best case scenario.
@@NionivekYou see, the corn is actually a canon event and exists in the military base in a state of superposition until needed. Obviously in the trust route, Lumi secretly finds out about Gio's secret diabetes and then makes him insulin via corn which is totally how it works my source is
Fun fact: there was an experiment in the 70s where 10 people with completely different backgrounds(ethnicity, relationship status, thoughts on religion, age, etc.) were put on a raft and sailed across the Atlantic without surveillance to see what they would do(in terms of would they kill each other or make love). (Btw it was just them and the guy that designed the experiment). And at the end the 10 participants did want to kill someone, and it was the ‘scientist’ guy because he was being an @sshole to them. And even when interviewed about it years later they all said that they were still great friends and that they all hated the scientist guy.
Eyyy I watched that Wendigoon video! I love that story, it’s very heartwarming and points to the fact that reasonable people will try to work together when united against a common force….in this case the scientist himself lol
Honestly that story is hilarious because the more you read into it the more you start to understand the psychology... of the moron who designed the experiment. It's an embarrassing kind of hilarious seeing a middle aged psychologist thinking like some edgy teenager in a black trench coat who thinks he's "extreme" because he listens to black metal.
I remember when i first heard that moment, i was for some reason like, "Damn, that line is actually kind of cold." Then when i went to eat, i thought about it again, and slowly realized how fucking funny and nonsensical it was. "I'm the garbage collector, because i collect garbage." The more and more i think about it, the funnier it is. It's proof that the people who wrote the script for this game just used the first draft. There's literally no other way.
Giovanni's story makes me particularly angry because it could've been genuinely compelling if it was written by someone competent. But maybe I'm just being blinded by Gio's tits and my crush on him
One day we will get a good "homophobe realises they're gay and actually develops and unlearns shit" story not today though. and we lost Giovanni for it
God Annika could have worked if the infantalization was a key part to unlocking the true route, Harris would need to be able to see past Aniikas childish exterior and would have to see she was uniquely capable in her own way depite her disabilities. He would have to *Trust* that Annika was more than her first glance and i am so mad she was reduced to a child caricature.
Ima be real. I didnt like it when Mikan was sexualized in DR2. But Annika is so much worse. Mikan has some serious mental issues that definitely needs repairing, but the times where she's nit depressed, she actually acts normal and sweet. Annika is mentally a child.
im autistic + a few orher things and can act very.. childish as well as a coping mechanism for some. Stuff. i saw myself a bit in annika.. it really sucks that she ended up like this because she really had potential to be really really well written stealing her and making her an oc idgaf anymore
In Danganronpa, you dread getting too attached to the characters in case the worst could happen to them - hoping beyond hope that some of your favorites survive. In Inescapable, you start wishing a nuke would just drop on the island.
Honestly, DR's no better IMHO. Lest I remind you this is the same series that sexualized Mikan and Kotoko (two SA survivors), including the latter who's *literally a child* and played her and Haiji (an actual p*do) for laughs and even wrote it as attractive. Then there's DR3 single-handedly destroying what made the first two games good and retroactively making Makoto and Chiaki look _so much worse,_ and V3 basically killing the series. Just because DR is better at hiding it's incompetence and malice does _not_ make it any better.
im not denying that inescapable is way worse than danganronpa, but like, this is still exactly how i felt about the entire cast of danganronpa (or at least for the first game, havent played any of the others). especially makoto. i was literally so mad when he survived getting attacked and escaped getting executed. like, i logically knew he was gonna survive because he's the protagonist. but i really wish he didnt. i always get so confused when people talk about how likeable or well written the danganronpa cast is. like, did we play the same game? maybe im just weird.
Ok so the lust route you can try to force Mia to kiss you (resulting in her rightfully slapping you and calling you a despicable monster) and in the trust route she reveals that a co worker tried to sexually assault her so that makes the lust route even WORSE
Yeah the way lust was done was absolutely irredeemable. Like why the fuck did they choose lumi to be the horny one in dream sequence when she is canonically asexual… they could have chosen any of the other girls for it
Despite the number of times you told us that this game ripped off Danganronpa, I still had my jaw on the floor when i saw this game using the EXACT SAME dramatic body discovery and comic recap shots from Danganronpa. Holy hell
Part of the reason why this video is *so* clip heavy is because while I was working on the edit I kept thinking "They're going to think that I'm just being dramatic or hyperbolic if I don't show them what it's actually like" because without proof it's hard to believe it'd be this egregious. The other main one is the tea party scene, if I'd only described that without showing it I think a lot of people would've just assumed I was exaggerating for comedic effect.
i just wanna add (before having watched the video): i was there when the casting call for this game dropped (PUBLIC casting call btw, on fuckin castingcallclub of all places), when it was just called "project daedalus" or something, and it gave off EVERY possible red flag to the point that it seemed like a complete scam and neither me nor my voice actor friends were interested in auditioning. there was no character art, and even weirder no character NAMES (it was all "sweet attentive swedish maid" or "introverted nerdy british boy", which is VERY rare for games like this), the lines were absolutely atrocious and all seemed like such ai-generated stereotypes based on whatever the archetype was (there was one listed as like latvian nonbinary engineer or something that was straight up "i can be whatever you want me to be, darling ;)" which, as a nonbinary person, raised some. concerns.), but weirdest of all was the pay; it was listed as "$1,000 / finished hour" which is INSA N E for a project of this scale. and again, this was on CASTINGCALLCLUB, the website where mostly beginner voice actors audition for small indie stuff or fan projects (or dozens upon dozens of gacha life animations). and they were AMBITIOUS. asking for different accents on i'm pretty sure every single character, and making it clear this would be a project (so a LOT of work on the actor's end most likely). like. i just really need to emphasize. i don't know if they got a voice director, but based on how poorly their casting call was formatted, i highly suspect it was all self-directed on the actor's end, which, in a character-based visual novel where every character is supposed to have extreme personalities and distinct accents, is . and obviously they were asking for accents or nationalities that they know next to nothing about, hence how wonky all the accents and pronunciations are ALL THIS TO SAY: that's why the voice acting is Like That. and i do not mean this as a dig at the actors themselves; just at the devs and writers for handling this about as poorly as a voice acting project could be handled. if i got handed a script for "pampered french teen business heiress" without proper guidance i would probably set on fire
honestly some of the voices in the video actually sound kinda good? if they weren't such insane scripts and in such a joke of a game. i hope the VAs can get better roles in the future because it sounds like with a bit more experience, proper direction and a serious project (as in something being produced seriously and professionally) they could really shine
I wish I had never been subject to Naomi's voice acting. There are ways to portray angry, unhinged characters without screaming into your ear every time she speaks :((((
i thought that this was a meme comment with fake german as a joke only to come back, notice the “translate to english” button, and discover that it’s actually in german lmao
Out of all the "dark secrets" in the Trust route, Daan's makes the least amount of sense to me. Wouldn't the story of a sickly child overcoming his illness and growing up to become a star athlete be even more inspiring than "he was a prodigy cyclist ever since he could walk"?
i always used to get annoyed when i saw people going "i bet they're in the closet" about someone being homophobic, sometimes its just a shitty cishet person and nothing more. its cool to see someone call that stereotype out
Exactly! Does nothing to combat the homophobia and does nothing to combat the misogyny, while implying those are more inherent in gay men than cishet men
I'll give them this. Most of the time the children that get drafted into these bizarre death games are either American or Japanese, having them all be Europeans is a nice change of pace
yeah that's the one grace i'll give them. we rarely get europe-focused content and if we do it's either britain, italy, france, or maybe germany. and 90% of the time it's because they're doing tourism there or bc they're talking about history. having so many characters from so many different parts of europe and having them say so many things in their native languages is such a breath of fresh air even if it's in a game like this
Meanwhile I'm patiently waiting for Africa or South America to be the main focus... (Also sorry that the first prominently European version of this sucks so bad!)
"No one is going to know about your game and if they do it's going to be because of this video" is a more toned down version of "I will eviscerate you in fiction. Every pimple, every character flaw. I was naked for a day; you will be naked for eternity." from a knight's tale
I’m only 13k views away from having the most-viewed video about this game on the internet so there’s a very real possibility that this will actually be the most influential piece of Inescapable media out there lmao
1:08:20 it took until the VA read this line out loud to realize this, but the rock is ACTUALLY named bagel?! I thought you were just memeing or something
I cant handle your character introductions. It's so damn funny. "Hi, I'm Daan-" Daan is genderbent Dutch Aoi Asahina except with a boner for cops and a fcked up view of justice. DAMN
Daan’s bio was one of the first ones I wrote and also probably the one that changed the least over time, mostly bc I just thought all of it was pretty funny the first time. “His personality is like if Junpei Tenmyouji was ride-or-die for the thin blue line” is one of my personal favourite lines from the whole thing.
i wonder if lumi's entire lack of a finnish accent was an intentional choice to represent her life as a multicultural person... or just because they couldn't be bothered to find a VA who knows how to do one. as a finn i really like how the accent sounds and wish it was actually utilized more with characters who are supposed to be finnish or finnish-inspired edit: GOOD GOD, SHE DOESN'T EVEN PRONOUNCE SAUNA THE FINNISH WAY! absolute robbery EDIT 2: *THE GAME WAS MADE AND PRODUCED IN FINLAND????*
This gets one step funnier than you guys think because it's currently nominated for Game of the Year at the Finnish Game Awards against Alan Wake 2 lmao
@@TheViveros i just saw that myself this morning when doing more deep dives into the game (including the hilarious patchnotes, which included the gem "Playing the fishing minigame no longer brings people back from the dead") and I'm in tears. what has my nations game industry come to. is this what happens when studios that are actively sponsoring award shows also make games (because yes, dreamloop is a sponsor for the fgoty event! absolutely insane!!)
@@ED-gw9rg both of those games are known for making the player suffer, so in a sense inescapable follows the national tradition of making the player experience pain... just in a different way than most actually good ones
I mean, I've barely started the vid, but have they not missed the point of Daganronpa like champs to say that there is a clear end date and everyone who lives gets 500,000? Sounds like an incentive to get along to me. Like, every time an argument gets too heated, "hey guys, 500,000, remember?"
At a bare minimum they could've said "There's a prize pool of 5.5 million euros that'll be split evenly among the survivors, so act accordingly" so that there's at least SOME incentive for conflict.
genuinely laughed out loud at the part that starts with the character going "i'll be succinct." followed by your caption of "She will not be succinct." incredible
Yeah, she looks like a pedophile designed her to lust over her. The infantilisation. The way she is basically serving them all. And she is also drawn the youngest. Thinly veiled fetish
@@siggevidstige8019 my deepest condolences to you and any annika's you know. I don't usually get to see names of people I know in games due to being Nordic and after this I hope it never happens again
could u rec any other hours long hatedumps i love them so much. they fuel me. other than this one i know of "Graduation: A Modern Day Travisty" which is two and a half hours of salt and i live for it
@@Langlocke Thank you for that video - I know how I'll be spending the next 2,5 hours as I'm home sick! Hbomberguy has some good ones. His video on BBC's Sherlock is a classic. And I enjoyed the 2,5 hour RWBY video even though I've never watched that show (which is the mark of a great rant). I can't think of any other ones off the top of my head, but I'll be sure to edit this if I remember some. Edit// Oh! Big Joel's video about the movie Click is great too. It has that unhinged energy. Though it might not be as long as the others.
As an artist, what pisses me off the most is that the art in the cgs and the sprites is not bad! I love the direction where they used "acrylic standee models" for the characters, I think it's charming And yet it was wasted all on this horrible game. No wonderful character design, art direction could NOT save the horrendous writing
GOD FINALLY A COMMENT THAT MENTIONS THIS. The designs and art is SO GOOD IMHO. If only we lived in a diff wprld, where this game was as good and short as DDLC...
I was just going to say this, honestly I like how the characters look. Design could be better, more consistent, everything else is bad... but I like looking at them. My brain's just like 'man, what a shame...'
I totally agree! The standee approach is reminiscent of Danganronpa and their use of flat character sprites but given a twist that makes it charming instead of seeming like a straight rip off. I wish that the game continued to find clever ways to use their inspiration to their advantage by putting new twists on it… maybe it would have been passable then.
hi, this video is fantastic, however - i am staring intensely at 1:20:11 because Mia says "Auf Wiedersehen, meine Liebe." which means "Goodbye, my love." about Lumi's death. (well, "auf wiedersehen" literally means "until we see each other again" before anyone wants to get uppity). either this is a botched translation or they did mean to imply that Mia was secretly in love with Lumi. ....diversity win....?
tbh I feel like the "Killing game with no game concept" seems so funny and unhinged like "You'll be forced to play a game of life or death! "A game that will make you...." "...." "What were the rules again?" "What do you mean? I thought you were the one deciding the game" "I was one responsible for choosing the location and kidnapping the people you were the one choosing it!" "ARE YOU SAYING I GOT A BUNCH OF STOCKED FOOD FOR NOTHING BECAUSE YOU DECIDED TO BE INCOMPETENT AND NOT DO YOUR JOB?" and then it could have both of the headmaster try to figure out what game they should play and either have them making shit up on the post or just changing it every 5 seconds so no one knows how to win, if you do it properly it could be a interesting premise
Exactly! Making it some satire of the entire genre where the people running it have no idea what they're doing could have worked well, but instead it's....this.
OH my god I JUST realized why Naomi’s voice was grating on my brain specifically. She sounds EXACTLY like one of the creatures from that one part of nostalgia critics the wall review. The one with the hat
What’s wild is you’re not even the first person to make that connection lmao, like if multiple people are independently coming to that conclusion it’s pretty damning
This game is if a group of people came together and decided to turn their discord RP into a videogame, looked up how to be camp and poorly tried to follow the exact definition. I actually burst out laughing at several lines of dialogue from the sheer absurdity
As cringe as this may be to admit, as someone who actively participated in danganronpa discord killing game roleplays, I've seen groups of teenagers write more compelling plots, characters and create better art and designs than this actual fucking game company 😭😭
@@Essayien yeah, in those situations (as someone who has participated in some) Discord RPs are usually done as a passion project, so those teens actually try their damndest to portray their characters--original or no--the best they possibly can. And that usually entails regulating participants who are intentionally or otherwise derailing the whole thing _(I say this as someone who's had that happen to me before)_ before the affair devolves into . . . Well, another Inescapable.
@@Essayien As someone who STILL participates in danganronpa discord killing game roleplays, there are two sides: people have a LOT of talent with the most biggest writing masterpieces I've ever seen and... inescapable.
love how during the second comic book recap 2 characters pronounce Isak's name 3 different ways in as many sentences. microcosm of the voice direction issues
I have never been certain how to say it because they constantly switch it up between eye-sack, iss-ack, and isaac, and even Isak himself doesn’t seem to really know which one is right.
this piece of shit game being nominated for game of the year at the finnish game awards against fucking ALAN WAKE 2 is the epitome of hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
yiik is the yiik of earthbound type games then? makes sense. maybe mario and luigi… idk yiik is fucking weird. i would say undertale but undertale is very derivative of earthbound already
LMFAO i just finished an 1hr video about yiik and then watched this one immediately after having never heard of both of these games before, i think inescapable manages to be worse because of the long duration and inexcuseable price
Thank you for putting that small wiggly friend to maintain my sanity. I have no idea how you and chat managed to get through dialogue like that for 4 playthroughs without getting locked up in a mental asylum.
I had to put him there for my own sanity, ngl. I had to play another 20 hours of this game to get the background footage so I started adding him in while I was editing bc he made me happy lmao Also frankly I think the only thing that got me through it was knowing that I was eventually going to get my revenge with this video. Also a lot of alcohol.
The blorbo... the sploinky... rewatched this video immediately just for him... Edit: Also as a vod watcher I can confirm Viv usually starts actively consuming alcohol just to get drunk at around 30-60 minutes on average.
As a British person the delivery of "well that's just rude, innit" at 51 mins in made me cringe so fucking hard. whoever made this clearly doesn't know how innit works as a sentence piece and the voice actor clearly didn't know how a british person talks. I also got whiplash with the discussion of the prize being €500k because.... harrison immediately replies "wow that's more than my salary!" and maybe it's a me problem but I don't know the conversion of euros and great british pounds, so it gave me the impression that the writers just... Aren't aware Britain doesn't use euros
@@GarryDumblowski You definitely can, but there's the simultaneous circumstances that €500,000 is significantly more than the yearly salary of a bus driver and that anyone trying to get that much money exchanged will have to go through a more specialised service that might ask why you have that much foreign currency.
@@davidsmith7752 Haha, yeah, I didn't think about having to launder the money until after I sent the message. Ironically, Harrison would probably also be the one with the least ability to launder the money too, since he's a bit of a nobody compared to the others.
@@GarryDumblowski oh its more that it just caught me off guard how immediately he responded to the amount of euros, because I'm not good with exchange rates so if I was in that situation it would fly straight over my head. like I said, it might just be a me issue but also I don't think many people in Britain know that stuff
@@nerdychocobo i feel like it would be reasonably likely that he knows the general level of similarity between the values (like compared to currencies where 500,000 isn't worth nearly as much), that and the fact that 500,000 is presumably a significantly larger number than his salary is makes me think that he wouldn't have to know the exact value to come to that conclusion
I genuinely cannot believe “I don’t even know if you’re waifu or husbando” is actual dialogue written for this game. Absolutely incredible stuff, guys.
let me tell you as a guy with some gender going on, the moment sasha said "gender? in this economy? boomer." i let out the most gutteral scream out of cringe you could possibly imagine
Small gripe compared to... everything else, and it's not like this is the only game that portrays bodies unrealistically - but you're going to sit there and tell me that Francisca looks like THAT when she had a baby TWO MONTHS AGO????
Harrison's English accent is so bad to a degree that I have rarely seen Everything about it down to the way he say "innit" is simply wrong in the stupidest way possible. It's almost funny at points
out of all of the ways I've heard american people say innit as a joke, even in *purposefully bad ways*, it has never sounded as awful and unnatural as the way Harrison said it
He sounds more like he's autotuned, honestly. I'm British and I would not have even guessed this guy was British if you hadn't told me. Getting to the "innit" was like a slap in the face omg
I'm English and the moment I heard the voice I had to find out who the voice actor was so I could get explanations (He was born and raised in Canada and only uses his natural accent in all other jobs)
The day media will understand that bilinguals don't randomly use native language words while speaking english and, if anything, outbursts are FULLY in the native language, I'll rest easy. Giovanni's shitty accented Italian gave me several strokes
GOD THIS!!!! i had to scroll too much for this comment, this genuinely pisses me off. my language only slips occasionally and then it’s usually just one word, i realise that i switched languages and i go back. and if the language fully slips to the native one, when im angry for example i don’t finish the sentence in english. this is so annoying in every kind of media, it’s absolutely grating to listen to. no, bilinguals will not say one sentence in english and one in their native language, its fucking stupid, people would not understand half the things we say. and that’s exactly why it annoys me in media, i literally don’t know what they are saying half of the time because they keep switching languages back and forth. god. thank you for reading my rant
Depends on the language - not the case for most European ones (more likely to be the other way around, throwing in English words into a native language conversation), but Filipinos will code-switch between Tagalog and English multiple times in the same sentence.
@@reaperassasin11 For context, coming from an ace (lesbian) person myself who individualistically likes the idea of certain parts of sex and sexually charged experiences and activities as a way to feel good about myself, my body-especially since I am also chronically ill-and as just a continuation of physical intimacy but cannot imagine myself in the position doing it with anyone nor do I experience sexual attraction, you can absolutely desire sex/sexually charged intimacy, experience sexual attraction and have a libido and wet dreams, ad infinitum while being on the ace spectrum. E.g., someone who's on the ace spectrum may not experience frequent sexual attraction and/or or the general desire to (always) build up to sexually charged intimacy in their relationships but can still be turned on, desire sex, engage in bdsm and kinks and pleasure themselves. Now is that scene supposed to be a depiction of the fluidity of sexuality? Of course not, at least not intentionally, in the instance of Lumi.
thank you for discussing the ableism with the discussion and treatment of Annika and her infantilization as well as sexualisation. It's estimated 90% of women with an intellectual disability encounter sexual abuse throughout their lives. It's so bad that forced sterilisation of intellectually disabled women is still legal and practiced in many first world countries (as it's expected they will be raped at some point and their carers do not want them to risk getting pregnant) and they do not have their own reproductive autonomy. Another reason is carers not wanting to deal with them having periods. It's horrendous. Anyway, I seldom see people discussing the issues of disabled people, especially not the developmentally disabled. Thank you so much it means a lot and it made me feel tearful hearing a UA-camr who cares because usually it's the opposite where I'll watch a video and suddenly they'll use the r slur or say something awful. I wish you a lovely day and thank you for the video
can confirm, I'm autistic and disabled in other manners and the amount of sexual abuse myself and my disabled friends have gone through is bullshit. I wish people would acknowledge it more often because it's a very present danger
Okay this is a huge nitpick and not even THAT bad in comparison to the more egregious writing, but a huge pet peeve of mine and what signals to me that someone is VERY bad at character writing is making bad Likes/Dislikes. Notice how nearly every characters’ profiles have like a fun fact, little trivia thing for their Likes (usually favorite foods, hobbies, etc.) but their dislikes are almost always abstract concepts that are representative of their core belief system (Harrison being “loneliness”, Daan being “unfairness”, Gio being “heroes”, etc.) Sasha’s likes/dislikes are hilariously non descriptive too, like yeah we can tell that the pervert hacker likes mischief and “your annoyed face” and dislikes direct conflict. Do they have a character OUTSIDE of that basic premise? Like maybe Sasha likes drag shows? This would allude to how they quote RuPaul all the time. I don’t even *like* Danganronpa that much anymore but compare this to any of those characters: Mondo Oowada owns a miniature dog named Chuck which contributes to dispelling his image of a hardened delinquent, Sonia Nevermind, in the original JPN text, frequently swears in English, which is a funny personality quirk and also makes sense considering she’s a world leader.
I don't even get the purpose of short likes/dislikes list. Like, maybe I'm outing myself here, but at least in RP scenes it helps you know what you'll be dealing with and that helps with planning our naratives; here the stories are *already* set in stone, and, unless they do a *catashtropically* bad job writing, it would've been obvious anyway.
I said this to my friend! Saying things like a character "Dislikes snooty people" is such a nothing statement. Nobody likes snooty people, not even snooty people themselves. That tells me nothing about this character, other than the fact that you ran out of ideas for them.
Anna makes me super uncomfortable. It comes across less like good faith disability representation and more like the Writer's barely disguised fetish they're retroactively trying to justify
It's just so bizarre how Sasha and Annika are even in the same game because it seems like these two were made to appeal to two wildly different demographics that I'm pretty sure have zero overlap. The Ecchi VN fans who'd find Annika appealing are the types to get upset seeing queer characters outside of those who appeal to their fetishes, and people looking for enby representation are typically sensitive to sexualization and infantilization of Annika's character archetype. by the way I hope Naomi's VA didn't ruin her throat
"blimey. This is quite the bugger of a situation we've found our selves in. Ey mates. We best stop the feckers who put on this bloody island. Or we can play some football to pass the time. I need something to take me mind off the fact I've gone an hour without a pint."
The game feels more like a danganronpa amino roleplay with a 12 year old, a 30 year old ff7 fan, a bunch of edgy teens/young adults, and this one guy who definitely shouldn’t write books with female characters
@@fierytigergaming8112 naomi feels a bit like an extreme version of junko imo, except if junko didn't constantly switch personalities (i'm not fully through the vid so that might change)
One of my biggest problems with the game is that only one of the routes contains murder mystery elements despite the fact that this was marketed as a death game.
Okay but like. "it'll be livestreamed to our viewers on the internet" ... making them aware they're being watched. meaning they have plenty of reason to still conform to societal norms and like. not murder each other...
Yeah like they explicitly acknowledge that Valerie’s parents were at least following along at the end of Greed, so at a bare minimum anyone with any proximity to power would be basically untouchable. Did Isak and Lumi just like… think the Italian mafia wouldn’t maybe have something to say to them if they murdered their leader?
Oh 1000%, I know I ragged on this game a lot but I was dead serious about Annika deserving so much better. I think I said to another commenter that her and Sasha were my least favourite to interact with bc Sasha would do some Sasha bullshit and with Annika I was always terrified of what they were going to do to her next.
hate that "dislikes: bad people" shit at 19:20, it's so common in OC bios. like, yeah? you hate bad people. who likes them? might as well say you like breathing air lol
Ok can I just say, the good ol “Orient express twist” (They all did it together (spoilers for anyone who hasn’t read a 50 year old book)) would have been a *terrifying* climax in almost any other game. Imagine if that sort of thing was done in a proper danganronpa game, final class trial, it’s revealed everyone is working against you and *has* been working against you from the start. That would be *awesome*. It’s just a shame it’s in a game that couldn’t write its way out of kindergarten.
Yeah like you could do something very cool with that concept - having a killing game where there's an Orient Express ending (even if it's just an optional one) where everyone except the player character gets in on the killing and leaves you trapped as the one innocent person is something you could really do something with. In concept, I get what they thought they were doing with that, but instead it's just like... oh, ok. This was stupid. Especially because you don't actually have to try to live on the island with the dynamic that all the others are killers - it would've been genuinely really cool if you had one more murder after that where they have to trust you to figure it out because they can't trust each other, knowing that they're all capable of killing and deceiving. Instead it just skips to the end and does nothing with it even though there's another month left in the schedule. Even the times Inescapable threatens to do something interesting it immediately undercuts it with a bafflingly dumb decision.
@@craftergamer9058I think that's exactly WHY it could work in that setting - especially something like Viveros suggested, since everyone/multiple people *could* work together to betray you and in the end, you have to figure out which of them the game will even let you punish while you have to live with all the others for at least another chapter. Not that they'd have to know that in advance, THEY could undertake the plan falsely assuming they could all be rewarded...and/or one or more of them knows it won't work and calculates their contributions so they won't be the scapegoat but someone they want dead will be...and/or after they realize it they all turn on each other and argue why they're not the "real/most" culprit...idk, I think that rule just makes it more potentially interesting.
@@craftergamer9058 in the orient express, i think one of the people tries to volunteer themselves for the crime since they had the strongest reasons to kill them
@@craftergamer9058 to be slightly fair, that doesn't get established at the start of the games, so for the 1st or 2nd murders it could work, or until whenever Monokuma puts it in the guide book. (idk if 2 or 3 stated it from the start, but i know in 1 it wasnt established until trial 3)
I don't usually write longer comments but I respect the hell out of you for this Viveros. I also got gifted this game on release, and after I played it I knew /someone/ was going to make this video, it just wasn't going to be me. Not only have you broken down pretty much every critique I shared regarding this game, but you kept it focused on the people who deserved it AKA Dreamloop. I made an effort to keep on top of the discourse around this game when I played it and a frankly bizarre and disproportionate amount of hate for the game was directed towards the voice actors for whatever reason, and that really put me off wanting to engage with critiquing Inescapable. That, plus the growing "sacrificial trash" status of the game, shielded Dreamloop proper from the brunt of the discussion about their false advertising, exploitative writing, and infuriating gameplay. I'm glad you kept the target where it belonged. Also making me listen to that Tea Party again took years off of my life, thank you for that
Thank you so much, that really means a lot. I definitely do think some of the voice acting deserves critique and I understand why that’s gotten a lot of heat (mostly Naomi ngl, good voice directing could’ve saved a lot of the other characters but that one’s irredeemable) but it’s not the fundamental issue, and fixing it would’ve been just putting lipstick on a pig. Dreamloop deserves 100% of the blame for how this turned out - including with the VAs, imo. It’s not like they forced themselves into the game, Dreamloop hired them, wrote a bad script for them, and then didn’t provide adequate voice direction. And some of the VAs are genuinely pretty solid; Francisca’s is good, Eva’s is good (just miscast), and Annika’s is good (just that character shouldn’t exist). I wonder if part of why people defaulted to criticizing the VAs is because critiquing this game for its actual flaws is so hard - there’s too many things to point at but it’s hard to nail down what the actual problem is because everything is buried under a million miles of pointless fluff. Even getting clips for this video was hard because there’s rarely just a good concise “A-ha!” moment - it’s always a dialogue section that drags on and on and on and nobody ever just comes out and says what they’re trying to say, and that makes it a lot more nebulous and difficult when you’re trying to say “This is the problem, this should’ve been better”. And I apologize for the tea party scene but I think it’s a rite of passage for Inescapable. Every time I got to that point on stream I made chat sit through the whole thing because it’s just… transcendentally bad. I don’t understand how you go through the process of writing, recording, and making art for that scene without anyone saying “Guys, I think this is a really stupid idea, can we just like… not do this?” I genuinely need someone at Dreamloop to go to prison for that one (although ngl Valerie singing “Lazy! Pathetic! A fraud driving a bus in the night!~” has become iconic to me and I will be making it a stream sound alert)
My theory is that voice actors, artists, and such are easier to access and DIRECTLY target, rather than screaming at a group of people who won't see nor care about what you're saying, so that's why people target VAs as if they have any say in development/production. They'd rather go for who they can victimize easiest.
as a British person, Harrison's voice and dialogue confuses me because it feels like a combination of a bunch of different places and dialects with no consideration put into choosing a specific place of origin. his accent sounds posh, maybe from the north of England or rich parts of london, but then he says slang like "innit" and "bruv" which just aren't used very often in those communities. slang like that is typically used in the south, areas like Birmingham or the poorer parts of London. normally with british accents and dialogue u can typically figure out someone's home county from their accent and speech but with Harrison i just can't???
It has the same energy as the pokemon sword and shield english translation, where it's just a strange mish mash of everything vaguely british. but at least there it's a fantasy world inspired by Britain, not meant to be real life, and the story is entirely pointless not... The whole fucking game. And his posh accent makes it sound even more unnatural when he says innit or bruv, because those accents just... Don't pronounce things like that. tbh for me his voice didn't even entirely read as a British accent to me, although I'm not the best at identifying accents so that might be a me issue
Same thing about francisca. Sometimes she says things commonly said in portugal, which is okay, she speaks portuguese, BUT SHE HAS A BRAZILIAN ACCENT, not only that, her way of speaking is also brazilian, so i don't know if she is brazilian or portuguese. Not only that, but her portuguese is somehow form nowhere in brazil, there are no ''Mano'' or ''Piá'' so that i could identify a place, she's just... from somewhere
2:00:18 Portuguese speaker here, just wanted to point out that the way they are pronouncing her name (or shortened version of it) is wrong. Francisca when shortened is Chica but is pronounced as 'Sheeka' because "CH" in Portuguese makes an 'SH' sound. So when they call her Chica it just sounds like they are calling her 'girl' in Spanish.
It took me noticing that the C was capitalized to realize it was supposed to be a nickname and not the Spanish word for girl 😭 they should have just nicknamed her Kika bc I was sitting here like "wdym a Portuguese person is constantly being called the Spanish word for girl and doesn't immediately kill whoever calls her that"
As someone who has spent WAY too much time creating DR OCs(at this point probably like 6 years if not more lmao) I so agree that this just feels like a cast of DROCs without refinment because I WAS THERE. Never have I felt such second hand embarassment from watching something like this... Never have I felt the urge to just steal all of these characters and actually do them justice AND ALSO HARRISON??? GIVING BAD FAME TO FLAMMER SHIRTS??? BIGGEST SIN OF THIS GAME /lh
I think the choice to show big glimpses of the gameplay/cutscenes was the best way to make this case for "worst game" especially when one's ears is pelted by the mixing and the egregious voice acting Also, Isak has one of the strangest designs/proportions I've seen for ANY character, and that is in every negative regard lmao EDIT: I should mention this is ABSOLUTELY a directing issue in and not the fault on the VAs, since this is an issue across the board (not to mention having to salvage all this dialogue)
Ok maybe my standards are on the floor from badly dubbed anime, but the voice acting didn't actually sound that bad for the most part? Awful direction, they were obviously told very little about their character outside of a stereotype to embody, but it feels like the cast worked with what they had, especially if they're amateurs (which, based on this being a tiny game by a tiny studio seems likely) ETA: also shout out to Isaac's VA, they went ALL the way in Jesus
Yeah, I rhink about half at the least are good *voices*. The direction though........ I don't think I can blame the VA's period, I can't see any horrible voices except for the accents that were butchered by (probably) young and newer VA's. @@bye1551
@@bye1551 The VAs sound amateurish most of the time but like, they could do well if they weren't saddled with voice direction that's of the same caliber of the writing.
@@antonioscendrategattico2302 Like Viveros complained that Lumi's VA was acting completely emotionless, and then Lumi's VA dropped a (pinned) comment where they mentioned being told to portray an emotionless character. You really start putting the pieces together that these amateur voice actors were not given good material to work with, which is a shame since for many of them this game was their debut. I hope it didn't reflect badly on any of their future voice acting pursuits, they need a more diverse portfolio of work STAT!
I havent arrived yet to that, I'm scared...did they do something worse than Dangan with Mikan? You should do better than your inspiration, or similar, but NOT WORSE
yeah that ain't right, how did they put someone like her in this clusterfuck and think it's okay, doesn't feel right and reminds me of the bad routes of school days
I put this video on as background noise for my knitting, having never seen your channel before, expecting to zone out after the first five minutes. Instead I got blindsided by Drag Race references, unwillingly had war flashbacks of my high school Danganronpa phase, had physical cringe responses like I have never experienced before, and listened intently to every minute. Never in my life did I expect to hear "Danganronpa" and "Shuga Cain edit" spoken in the same video, much less the phrase "Dutch genderbent Aoi Asahina with a boner for the cops." 10/10 would watch again but skipping over the actual game footage this time
My favourite thing about the comments on this one has been the number of people who’ve been like “I put this on as background noise but then I heard (insert one of a million unhinged things) and I had to lock in to figure out wtf was going on”. I was worried while I was making the video that I was getting too wrapped up in too much of a silly little thing, and that the length was too long, so I’ve been really glad that other people find this deranged game as captivating as I did lmao
I was putting it on in the background during work and ended up moving from my work desk to my bed to watch the rest of it like a movie once my shift was over. I have never played any of these games mentioned but your presentation and this game's sheer audacity hooked me in. I definitely want to check out other videos of yours. I love rant videos like this of stuff I have no clue about.
I'm wondering why is it that the exactly same personality traits that made Isak such an obnoxious character were incredibly endearing and lovable in Gundham Tanaka?
Now it's been forever since I played dangonronpa v2 and this is just my theory, but I think it's because there was more to Gundham than the whole "edgy prince of darkness" thing. He genuinely cared for his hamsters, was using the whole edgelord thing as a cover for his social awkwardness/loneliness, and loved his mom a lot. Also, him being really outlandish was a source of comic relief. Isaac doesn't really seem to have any depth of character. The game takes him a lil too seriously, so it's just annoying. Like how the hell did bro seduce Naomi.
One of them is an evil bastard, one is a well rounded good guy. Gundham is clearly just playing up his evil overlord persona but has genuine heart and love for his friends and pets. Isak is equally as fake about being some legendary supervillain, but he actually IS a genuine asshole. So it doesn't come off as endearing antics of someone who could never be genuinely threatening. Its just The Man Who Is A Threat, being extremely fucking smug about it. These kinds of mannerisms just really intensify a character's personality. And if they have a shitty one, it's gonna get even shittier. Also Gundham had a great voiceactor and Isak's falls completely flat.
i think that the reason interacting with mia locks you into the suspicion route is because it would make her death and the ending more impactful- if the player is choosing to interact with her shes probably their favorite, or they at least get to know her through all their interactions. instead of just making characters that you care about so that any death is impactful, they just picked one they forced you to like so they could focus the ending on her (unnecessary) death...
Me: All right, let's see how bad this gets! The voice acting and dialogue at 05:18 punishing me for my hubris and WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN THEY TOLD THE CONTESTANTS THEY WERE BEING WATCHED RIGHT OFF THE BAT
Honestly idk if I'd have hated this game enough to make this video if it weren't for Naomi. I generally don't like to trash voice actors bc I know it's hard and I know that they often get a lot of undeserved hate but there's no forgiving that performance or Dreamloop's decision to use it.
On one hand, I /think/ I get the intent of a Monokuma-esqe narrator: lit "I'm here to annoy you" (Hell of a choice to use that as an opener, either way) On the other, she feels... Idk, weak? Pointless? Something about her feels flanderised. Like you take all the power away from an effective Killing Game host, and they keep going on about it either way. Like, who opens with "Dont make me drop the nukes"?? Then again, I'm only 13 minutes in to the video, so maybe my opinion will strengthen with time.
As an asexual myself, I should be happy to see the inclusion of an ace person in the cast. But the fact they're described as 'heartless', which falls back on the stereotype that asexual people are like emotionless robots who can't feel love or affection, along with the wonderland dream where they were desperately begging to be 'used' by Harrison, make that a very, very insulting inclusion and honestly makes me feel a little sick. Not one thing in this game's attempts at 'representation' isn't just a horrible insult. They don't even accidentally get something right!
@@indigomizumi I mean, when you think about it, it's kind of ironically embedded to the concept of representation in media: Representation requires the experience from the side that is represented, NOT the side that observed them, as it can have skewed perspectives and not have the full picture. But since most people that are in control of the media's narrative, writing and visual/audial expression never experienced those represented moments, by the nature of the representative usually being a minority and/or treated unequally, or they more often then not get it wrong. In short, The fact that we want to represent something means that the people which create that representation likely aren't part of it due to the fact the represented are not equal in amount and status, and that can make the representation incorrect Moreover, even consulting only a single or few represented people about can also go awry, as most representation aren't one sides to fit all, Like how all Autistics or all Asexual are different and experienced different things. That's why I think Clear and Major Media Representation should be made with consultant of sufficient amount of the represented AND Proper research of the topic and it's many perspectives.
@@tetrachart4156 Thing is, you also just need more representation in volume. There are so many different aspects of being autistic, and so many different people can have nothing in common yet still all be asexual, that simply consulting enough people still wouldn't do them any justice. The people affected by autism or those that identify as asexual are so diverse that it's genuinely impossible to represent them with one character, as is the nature of a spectrum. The best one story can do is avoid stereotypes.
You know...the Giovanni as gay thing COULD have worked if it was played up to focus more on his family than the toxic masculinity thing. Like "My wife is even MORE of a devoted Catholic than me, if she knew I was gay, she'd take my children from me, and I love them more than life itself! I'd be excommunicated, kicked out of my home, and my darling children taken from me...I'd lose everything and everyone I love!" It'd be much more understandable why he'd want to hide his sexuality then if he legit feared he'd lose his children over this secret being exposed. Then it could make him likable. Add in more scenes of him talking about his family, of how his son and daughter's faces make him smile just picturing them in his mind's eye, then it makes him relatable. Sympathetic! It COULD have worked. But they botched it.
It's genuinely baffling how bad it is. And it's not like it just gets desynced from the music if you sit on the starting screen for too long, because it'll hold off on actually giving you the notes until it thinks it's hit a point that it should come in at. If it turned out that that section was programmed with a different song and then it randomly got swapped to that one it would make so much more sense.
@@beingmegucaissuffering.5326 and, mind you, the harp strumming is like 10 minutes max of gameplay. If anything, the pumpkin balancing minigame was far more annoying
as someone who's portuguese, francisca's romance route being "garagem da vizinha" is a reference to the song by quim barreiros that is basically about the singer and the neighbour having an affair and personally i need francisca to be in a better game than this PLEASE ill save you francisca ,..,..
@@blueberrymuffin_144 AND IT WAS ALSO A GOOD FODA-SE. Man, this might be the most wasted portuguese character in existance, please put her in a better game...
Same tbh, like it really tells you a lot about how they see autistic people, or people with developmental disabilities in general. We're children up until they want to fuck us, then we're sex objects.
The Trust route tells me that you could make a pretty damn good story about how a lot of famous social experiments that aimed to prove something sinister about "human nature" (e.g. the Stanford prison experiment, the Milgrim experiment) needed A LOT of meddling from the researchers to get those shocking results. As it turns out, most humans are not too keen on harming other humans without being coerced into it. Some shady wannabe scientist or TV producer constantly poking and prodding at a group of people trapped on an island in an attempt to turn peaceful cooperation into a Lord of The Flies scenario would be a great premise for psychological horror! Shame this game ain't it. Side note: While the voice acting in this is really shaky, I've got to point out that Mia's VA absolutely nailed the German parts. Her pronounciation is flawless. Either she was raised bilingual or she put in an impressive amount of work for this shitty little game.
It might be stockholm syndrome but after sitting through this video I find myself facinated with these characters and almost liking some of them, especially watching the trust route I found myself actually kinda caring about what happens to them (except harrison hate him, particularly liked Annika, Mia, Francisca, and Eva) and even pausing through some of the lines of the ones I liked to get a better idea of what was happening. Great video I loved this lmao- I wish this game was better, it makes me angry how it's made so poorly it reads as actively hostile to what it tries to represent. More specifically, I resonated with Annika more than I was expecting and it hit a bit close to home, and how shes treated throughout the video made me viscerally uncomfortable. It also reminded me of those things and makes me want to be more intentionally communicative about my relationship with my maturity and how others interact with it. Thanks for highlighting that, as uncomfy as it was (good gods)
Yeah, I liked a lot of the character designs and I feel like most of the characters personalities would've been fun if they had more balancing and were fleshed out a lot more. And the idea of trapping people on an island with no rules and watching it spiral to chaos is really fun. Overall the set up was so good it's just butchered by poor execution and dumb decisions by the creators
i swear to fucking god, i never saw you stream this game, i never saw anything about this game, i didnt know this existed. But when i saw isak, i was like "is he norwegian" and then getting the confirmation just takes the soul out of my body
Y'know, I think what enrages me most about the suspicion ending is the fact that they all got away with it! They murdered an innocent girl and knew exactly how to save her, but just let her die all the same. And none of them faced justice for it.
@@fierytigergaming8112 Thing is, Mia's poisoning happens notably slower than the rest of the cast, so there was a window of time where every poisoned victim was dead except Mia, a window that the culprits could have used (or Daan, at least) to still give her an antidote. That suspicious timing could come up in the trial, even.
The fact that they're all like ''murder is bad'' only to have murdered a completely innocent woman and none of them reflect on that is wild. like I get Sasha might not care but Annika Fransisca and Daan?
I genuinely don’t think I’ve laughed that hard at anything for at least a couple years. I know I showed a couple clips of it in the video but on stream we were going off on it for a *while* because it was just too funny.
I damn near spat out my drink at it because I'm already thinking "every angry guy I've had met have been aggressive towards me, but showed one particular thing..." Then the all caps text sent me and my drink to the heavens.
I don’t think you can blame the voice actors for the bad voiceover work, you can tell even from this shitshow that they have some level of competence, though it’s also obvious that these are amateur voice actors who likely haven’t had too much experience yet. The general rule of thumb is that if all the actors are bad, it’s an issue with direction and not the fault of the actors. Based on my limited knowledge of how these types of games are produced, my guess would be that they hired amateur voice actors and just handed them their lines to record at home. Then they just slapped whatever they got into the game and called it a day. I doubt there was any face-to-face interaction between the actors and the director, odds are it was all just done through e-mail. That’d be my guess at least.
Yeah the fact that the characters seem to pronounce the some of the other characters names differently gives off that vibe to. Sure you could argue it's because of their accents but just look at the second comic book recap on the suspicion route where Mia and Harrison pronounce his name completely differently despite it being a conversation.
36:02 Is it just me or is this character description really weirdly written in a way that none of the others are?? It seems to me like they're *really* trying to avoid needing to use they/them pronouns at times...... "Sasha loves tech, and is a naturally curious tinkerer. Smoking is second nature to Sasha. During Sasha's travels..." Just use a pronoun jesus christ!!!
Early video me: “Ah…a Black ace character. Finally, some good fucking re…” Late video me: *thud sounds intensify as I slam my fists in rage upon my desk*
Him being black is entirely fandom that everyone singlehandedly accepts, but Jonathan Sims from the magnus archives (who is also the writer's name don't worry about that he didnt know he wasnt making an anthology) is canonically ace and is fucking incredible I love how he develops
My heart SANK when about three minutes in i saw the name "Eva Tamm", frantically googled her in fear, to have my suspicions confirmed. Tamm is a common Estonian surname, it means oak, which is the national tree. One of THREE Estonian characters I've encountered in non-estonian media, and she's in this game -_- literally fucking heart broken. The transphobia for one is distasteful, evidently. And you're telling me there's a Swedish and a Finnish character and they don't take the opportunity to use the characters' cultural backgrounds for interesting interactions? Na, why would a character who's been kidnapped try to connect with other kidnapped people from cultures they've likely interacted with before?! As an estonian Eva has likely visited Finland several times, and may have relatives in Sweden, for example. Also missed opportunity for the fact that Eva is a character from a small country many don't hear much of and an attention seeker. If her sounding like a valley girl were a purposeful creative choice maybe she's stripped herself of any indication she's Estonian to more easily fit the image she wants to present of herself. After all, not many would find an Estonian accent sexy. Her cultural background doesn't inform any of her actions, her characterisation or even her vocal performance. What was even the point? As I said, she's one of three Estonian characters I've seen in non-estonian media. I always get a little excited when I hear there's an Estonian character in something, and this time, I was right to feel horrified instead.
The thing about her being from a smaller, often neglected country is something they really could’ve done something with as a social media influencer character, especially given Estonia’s unique history with mass media as an SSR that could get some Western television signals through - of all countries, given the producers of the game - Finland. Hell, even just a joke about how she’s used to voting digitally could’ve been a silly little nod to Estonia’s e-government stuff. There’s a history there that could’ve been used to inform her character and her pursuits and tell a more interesting story about her, but instead you wouldn’t even know she was Estonian if she didn’t specifically tell you.
@@TheViveros Absolutely! And if they wanted to actually write character development they could have her arc be about learning to be proud of her culture instead of putting on a fake valley girl accent and trying to be as "generic influencer" as possible. They could have built off having a character who doesn't have an obvious tie to their cultural heritage by making it a narrative decision that goes somewhere instead of whatever the fuck they did. It wouldn't be unrealistic for a young person from a small country people rarely hear of to get one lick of "viral fame" and chase more of it to the detriment of expressing their own personality + cultural background. Competent writers could've done something with it. And having other European characters in the cast should've made any form of cultural reference easier, you'd think. An interaction between Lumi and Eva on how the former's family has gone on day trips to Estonia to buy cheaper booze, for instance, would be a no-brainer. You'd think having Finnish involvement in the game would make little facts/references like these beyond easy to implement.
@@kajakas_kulp Ah man. Estonia sounds cool, full of history and culture. I mean that seems obvious to every country that exists, but it truly is a challenge to make a character from a different country from your own. Like mannerisms, language, social interactions, even mixing media from other cultures into their own. I understand the frustration when they get most info from the first page of google.
Speaking of european interactions, isnt Isak Norwegian? And Annika is swedish? Norwegian and swedish are plausible to understand by ear, and finns(due to, uh, opression.) are usually educated to learn swedish. I feel like it couldve been a neat flavor to see some of our characters with similar languages speak in a different language to attempt to keep something on the down low? Or something? (Edit* seems like the greed ending the mafioso and the mechanic did speak a different language to hide what theyre talking about to hide it from harrison, so good on them ig.) Or like. bare bitch bonding over being from an area with cultural overlap. Or digs at each other. Most online finns I know take any opportunity to make fun of swedes(rightfully so), and god know swedes have a lot of shit to talk about its neighbours. Also, only vagely related: I, for one, am from sweden and greatly dislike heat, and moreso than being kidnapped and focibly stranded on an island, being forcibly stranded on a TROPICAL island?? Id die. Like, some skandinavians adore warm vacations, but fuck that noise, Id rather ski everyday for a week straight in fjällen again than travel anywhere near the equator again. All that to say: do the characters ever really remark anything about the locale? Comparisons to their homes, if theres anything they miss or prefer? Idk.
Isak looks like if JD from Heathers worked in organization 13 and shopped at hot topic. His voice sounds like someone doing a bad impression of James from team rocket
What makes Danganronpa WORK is the fact that the characters are indeed caricatures taken to extremes, and yet they're more than just a single trait. This allows you to get the idea of who they are and build rapport... Before they're brutally killed or executed. And those that survive to the end, you don't want to see die. But these characters here? They have the idea... But they missed the mark.
DR works because they demonstrate WHY cliches exist. These archetypes exist for a reason. I replayed DR recently and liked how the characters start off as over the top caricatures and the more time you spend with them the more you start to see them as real people with depth. They become grounded. It’s done well. DR has issues but deserves its flowers sometimes.
One thing to mention is that Gio is Italian raised in a less globalized world so it makes sense that he doesn't know much about Stomewall but it does show the lack of knowledge and research abou the experiences of queer people during the latter half of the 20th century. Also what is the sister's nationality. They are implied to be hispanic but also their accent when saying anyrhing in spanish is plain wrong regardless of birthplace.
I think it would make sense if he didn’t know about the Stonewall stuff at the time, but to say he didn’t grow up in an age with that stuff was just bizarre especially when he says that Sasha did grow up in that world. By my estimate, Sasha’s probably between 20-35, so it still wasn’t in their time. Also, I think Naomi and Naima are supposed to be Spanish? The characters were kidnapped in Spain and I think Naomi’s accent is a bit more Spanish, but the VA who did them both pretty clearly just doesn’t know how to do accents. If the game didn’t explicitly establish that the characters are all European I wouldn’t have guessed they were even from the same continent ngl.
When Naomi said "pendejo" like that's a word Spaniards commonly use, it was such a whiplash. I understand there's A LOT of accents and dialects, but come on, it's like they couldn't "fact check" the text with a Spaniard at all. Or maybe they're not Spanish? But I don't think it's the case since they're supposed to be all European. Overall, very weird, and I wonder if native speakers of other languages of the characters noticed these inconsistencies with their speech and their nationalities.
I mean, my mom's older than him and she knows about Stonewall well enough to know that it happened when she was in university. Giovanni is just one of the most infuriating stereotypes ever.
The thing is, the fact that he mentions it at all implies he knows it exists, so the fact he misses the time it took place just makes it feel like the writers couldn't even spare a quick search on what year it happened.
how did they completely miss the point of the comic book recaps in danganronpa being big energetic climaxes?? why’s the music so calm, why’s the voice direction so limp, what was the thought process at all?????
This is really funny because I’ve looked up clips of the game out of morbid curiosity and there’s multiple conversations in the Common Route that Harrison has with Isak and Valerie about her fashion. Isak and Valerie think it’s horrendous but Harrison is like “we should just let her wear what she wants guys” so even the game acknowledges it 💀 Even funnier to me is that eventually there’s an interaction where apparently Mia successfully took Isak and Val’s advice and Harri is like “oh wow”. And then they start insulting Harrison’s outfit saying he’s “beyond saving” 😭
Also I thought her red and black socks looked off, like it was too much red with her skirt. The red parts were too close together. It's a small nitpick but I always thought the socks shoulda been white or blue and black instead of red.
"Inescapable"
>you can escape the island
i want my fucking money back
I've been saying this about the zero escape games for ages
@@stvnbo Technically *SPOILER*
zero escapes in every game they appear in
@@thememefinder2208 goddamit the motherfucker is right
@@stvnbo But to be fair, while the saga is called Zero Escape, it clearly doesn't mean it in the literal sense, but in an analogy sort of way
At least for the second and third game
@@stvnbo I don't know, those sure were 9 hours and 9 persons, but there's way more than 9 doors
On a note I think it's so sweet that your brother gave you a gift like that.
I do not mean the game, I mean the oportunity to make 2h45m of youtube content.
It was more a treat for us, though
We all won in the end, except for the game, but other than Worst Game of the Year it wasn't going to win anything anyway
the fact 3 out of 4 routes involve isak rizzing women is actually hysterical.
No because why has Isak pulled more than me 💀 this ain’t right
He has that autistic rizz, I feel
NO CAUSE I WAS WATCHING THE LUST ROUTE AND VIV DIDN'T EVEN MENTION THIS MAN RIZZED ***VALERIE*** IN THE MOST TOXIC AND OBVIOUS WAY EVER
He's so real for that, actually
Tbf it’s the same woman but I also refuse to believe this dude has rizz.
The worst thing about this game by far, for me personally, is that I look almost identical to Harrison - down to the clothing style. I'll never know peace again, my friends will never let me live this down. Can't look at myself in the mirror anymore. I shall proceed to launch myself into the fucking sun
The only thing that’ll save you now is shapeshifting
The only thing that could save you is surgery
The only thing that might save you is a mask.
Transition
DO A FLIP
I was like "aw the opening seems a lil harsh" and then naomi started speaking and i just sat there with my hand over my mouth.
Same. Like. Damn that sounds like a 14 years old idea of a good voice acting audition
It was like the VA was told "do your worst impression of Junko Enoshima" and that was the result
Hi! I’m the voice of Daan😂, great criticism I would say, I get the frustration man. Great video and thanks for calling my VA work okay hahaha. It was a ride to voice in this game and this was my first payed job, but I get that the game could use some guiding. I watched the whole video and I can totally understand it. I hope daan made it at least a bit more fun XP!
I genuinely respect you for being willing to sit through the video, because I think if I were in your shoes I probably would’ve had to turn it off. And I will say that Daan’s habit of randomly just saying whatever emotion he’s feeling at the end of a sentence has worked its way into how I talk because it was legitimately funny, so I think Daan was a net positive all things considered lol
Oh cool! With that attitude, you'll definitely make it in the industry and Im glad you got payed for your work! Hope to hear your performance in other works.
I'm glad you took the video well. Can't wait to see your voice acting in other projects because you did a really great job considering the script, I'd say! As a voice actor myself, I wish you nothing but the best!
You’re a damn hero, dude! Daan’s voice is absolutely my favorite and your delivery is super entertaining especially with how over the top he is! Hope you get more gifs in the future!
Congratulations on getting a job you love, I hope you get better projects in the future.
I'm absolutely baffled that they made Catholicism such a huge part of the plot, but mistakenly called crucifixion CRUCIFICATION
Oh thank god I wasn't the only one who was like "... Isn't the word crucifixion?" As I looked at the game dialogue 😭
To be honest I thought they were doing it on purpose at that point because that character never calls any of the gods properly.
*CROSSIFICATION*
ESPECIALLY because Isak says "crucified" in the wonderland scene (54:02) like so close but so far....
@@Nionivekthat’s what I’m thinking but as a Catholic I was second guessing my pronunciation on some of the other stuff. But def think he was doing it for the bit.
Hi, I'm the voice of Lumi! Daan's VA shared this with me and I watched the whole thing, which I thought this was great work! You gave some very good criticism, made me laugh (especially on the Gio part), and most of all, I respect you for playing through all 4 routes! If it was hard to sit through the Wonderland scene, believe me, I had just as hard a time voicing it. I was not expecting to do that sort of scene for Lumi at all when I was told she was the emotionless type of character lol. However, it was fun voicing for Lumi as this was my first big role in something so it will always mean so much to me! Hopefully you had fun whenever you could while playing! ❤
I’m glad you enjoyed it! I said this to Daan’s VA as well, but I admire you for being willing to sit through a video that’s pretty hostile to something you worked on, especially given that it was your first big role and I know how easy it would be to be defensive about that (and I definitely wouldn’t blame you for it either). I’m sorry to hear that the Wonderland scene was hard for you too, Lumi’s role in that scene has consistently felt very weird and out of place given everything else about her and I can imagine it wasn’t very fun to get hit with that out of left field. There were definitely some solid Lumi moments, though - as much as I thought it was a little out of character for Lumi to team up with Isak to kill Gio, I thought you did an especially good job at conveying her frustration with him and how he ruined the plan. I wish we’d gotten to see more of that side of her - there could’ve been some good opportunities for her in Greed and Lust to let the frustration at the way the contestants spiral slip out.
I completely understand Lumi meaning a lot to you as well, I think we all tend to be very attached to those kinds of firsts and I’m glad it was overall a fun experience! As much as I didn’t like the game, I can definitely say that it was a lot of fun to play through in its own way - especially the Gio bit, I genuinely haven’t laughed that hard at anything in ages. I hope to see you (and your colleagues) in bigger and better projects in the future!
You and your character deserved a way better project.
You did a good job and tbh, I really like your voice acting!! I just think Lumi had a LOT of potential thrown out of the window, which is such a shame because for what you've been given, you did a great job! Can't wait to see you in future projects!
i started off adoring lumi and absolutely loved your voice work!
loved your character!! Good work with the voice acting!!!
Shout-out to people watching this who don't know Danganronpa and Zero Escape characters, and are just hearing a *torrent* of Japanese names that mean nothing to them as the characters are summarized. I will assure you, that everything being said makes perfect sense. ESPECIALLY "he's like if Junpei Tenmyoji from Zero Escape was ride-or-die for the thin blue line." Poetry.
I love the idea that someone is going to watch this video and then play Zero Escape to figure out why I called Daan that, I'd love to see them get to the end of ZTD just to see if they agreed when it was all said and done.
o my i thought i was the only one
@@TheViveros well apparently i need to do that now
@@TheViveros not even kidding, this video motivated me to watch a Zero escape let's play (along with other games like 999)
@TheViveros As someone who has only played 999 and vlr, I am now concerned about what Junpei is going to be like in ztd.
I'm a lesbian and a T1 Diabetic, so while the Gio endgame gay reveal was hysterical, what really got me was the mid-game, route dependent, secret diabetic reveal. King. Get a CGM. An insulin pump. Anything. What a madman. Dosing on vibes alone.
Here is a question I just noticed thanks to you... how is he still alive during the Trust Route? The longest a diabetic can go without any insulin is like... two weeks in the best case scenario.
@@Nionivek Sheer fucking willpower
@@NionivekYou see, the corn is actually a canon event and exists in the military base in a state of superposition until needed. Obviously in the trust route, Lumi secretly finds out about Gio's secret diabetes and then makes him insulin via corn which is totally how it works my source is
are you me? xD i’m also a lesbian with type 1, we are very cool 😎🤝😎
@@cealens clasps ur hand- brother in arms
Fun fact: there was an experiment in the 70s where 10 people with completely different backgrounds(ethnicity, relationship status, thoughts on religion, age, etc.) were put on a raft and sailed across the Atlantic without surveillance to see what they would do(in terms of would they kill each other or make love). (Btw it was just them and the guy that designed the experiment). And at the end the 10 participants did want to kill someone, and it was the ‘scientist’ guy because he was being an @sshole to them. And even when interviewed about it years later they all said that they were still great friends and that they all hated the scientist guy.
Eyyy I watched that Wendigoon video! I love that story, it’s very heartwarming and points to the fact that reasonable people will try to work together when united against a common force….in this case the scientist himself lol
Honestly that story is hilarious because the more you read into it the more you start to understand the psychology... of the moron who designed the experiment. It's an embarrassing kind of hilarious seeing a middle aged psychologist thinking like some edgy teenager in a black trench coat who thinks he's "extreme" because he listens to black metal.
Whats the name of the Wendigoon video? I wanna watch that now, sounds faith-in-humanity restoring
@@LooneyLeilook up wendigoon the acali raft
THE RAFT EXPERIMENT WHAT A LEGEND
"Call me the garbage collector, because I'm about to collect some garbage."
They could not have made that funnier if they tried. No notes.
He also made a Darkwing Duck reference. Fucking iconic.
1:17:54
I remember when i first heard that moment, i was for some reason like, "Damn, that line is actually kind of cold."
Then when i went to eat, i thought about it again, and slowly realized how fucking funny and nonsensical it was.
"I'm the garbage collector, because i collect garbage." The more and more i think about it, the funnier it is.
It's proof that the people who wrote the script for this game just used the first draft. There's literally no other way.
He sounds like such a nice person, thank you for collecting my garbage
I wanted so badly for Harrison to reply, "Well no shit, Sherlock!"
That would have killed me from laughing too hard
Gio really is the embodiment of the quote "Your gay because you love men, I'm gay because I hate woman. We are not the same."
How did I get 1.2k??? Stop that. No dont give me likes this isn't even my joke
@@Justapikachu577 make that 1.3k likes :)
1.4 now
1.6k now but I read it in his voice.
1.9k now! I read it in Oz's voice
"We'll reveal horrible secrets unless you kill someone!"
Daan - I actually was sick as a baby
Eva - My parents got divorced
all of their Deep Darkest Secrets are so "oh no! anyway" it's hilarious
Gio - “I’m gae”
@@lukesoddlife that ones pretty funny because thats pretty much what caused the end of the world in danganronpa
Harrison: I cheated on a test
Mia: I hit a attempted rapist with a keyboard possibly in self-defence
@@tahseenkhan3629 I mean it's more one person with a fetish getting a really broken ability
About Giovanni not using a blood sugar monitor and going off on vibes to use insulin, my father is like that, forever impressed he is still alive tbh
Giovanni's story makes me particularly angry because it could've been genuinely compelling if it was written by someone competent. But maybe I'm just being blinded by Gio's tits and my crush on him
Exactly, his character design was so wasted smh
@@Xx_d4ydr34ming_b4t_xX EXACTLYYY I don’t wanna be horny brained but his design is also just like. Really good compared to some others in this game
One day we will get a good "homophobe realises they're gay and actually develops and unlearns shit" story
not today though. and we lost Giovanni for it
So real for this...
look up Dracule Mihawk, that’s who the design is based off (imo) and he’s actually a great character
God Annika could have worked if the infantalization was a key part to unlocking the true route, Harris would need to be able to see past Aniikas childish exterior and would have to see she was uniquely capable in her own way depite her disabilities. He would have to *Trust* that Annika was more than her first glance and i am so mad she was reduced to a child caricature.
Ima be real. I didnt like it when Mikan was sexualized in DR2. But Annika is so much worse. Mikan has some serious mental issues that definitely needs repairing, but the times where she's nit depressed, she actually acts normal and sweet.
Annika is mentally a child.
im autistic + a few orher things and can act very.. childish as well as a coping mechanism for some. Stuff.
i saw myself a bit in annika.. it really sucks that she ended up like this because she really had potential to be really really well written
stealing her and making her an oc idgaf anymore
@@droidhusbands stealing is always ethical if youre stealing from human garbage
In Danganronpa, you dread getting too attached to the characters in case the worst could happen to them - hoping beyond hope that some of your favorites survive.
In Inescapable, you start wishing a nuke would just drop on the island.
The game that makes you WISH Nagito was here to do exactly that
Honestly, DR's no better IMHO. Lest I remind you this is the same series that sexualized Mikan and Kotoko (two SA survivors), including the latter who's *literally a child* and played her and Haiji (an actual p*do) for laughs and even wrote it as attractive. Then there's DR3 single-handedly destroying what made the first two games good and retroactively making Makoto and Chiaki look _so much worse,_ and V3 basically killing the series. Just because DR is better at hiding it's incompetence and malice does _not_ make it any better.
@@TheAxeLord47911Real shit
Naomi: That's right, we've got NUKES!
Me: Do it, motherfucker. Go on. Do it. Better make it count.
im not denying that inescapable is way worse than danganronpa, but like, this is still exactly how i felt about the entire cast of danganronpa (or at least for the first game, havent played any of the others). especially makoto. i was literally so mad when he survived getting attacked and escaped getting executed. like, i logically knew he was gonna survive because he's the protagonist. but i really wish he didnt.
i always get so confused when people talk about how likeable or well written the danganronpa cast is. like, did we play the same game? maybe im just weird.
Ok so the lust route you can try to force Mia to kiss you (resulting in her rightfully slapping you and calling you a despicable monster) and in the trust route she reveals that a co worker tried to sexually assault her
so that makes the lust route even WORSE
Yeah the way lust was done was absolutely irredeemable. Like why the fuck did they choose lumi to be the horny one in dream sequence when she is canonically asexual… they could have chosen any of the other girls for it
Despite the number of times you told us that this game ripped off Danganronpa, I still had my jaw on the floor when i saw this game using the EXACT SAME dramatic body discovery and comic recap shots from Danganronpa. Holy hell
Part of the reason why this video is *so* clip heavy is because while I was working on the edit I kept thinking "They're going to think that I'm just being dramatic or hyperbolic if I don't show them what it's actually like" because without proof it's hard to believe it'd be this egregious. The other main one is the tea party scene, if I'd only described that without showing it I think a lot of people would've just assumed I was exaggerating for comedic effect.
i just wanna add (before having watched the video):
i was there when the casting call for this game dropped (PUBLIC casting call btw, on fuckin castingcallclub of all places), when it was just called "project daedalus" or something, and it gave off EVERY possible red flag to the point that it seemed like a complete scam and neither me nor my voice actor friends were interested in auditioning. there was no character art, and even weirder no character NAMES (it was all "sweet attentive swedish maid" or "introverted nerdy british boy", which is VERY rare for games like this), the lines were absolutely atrocious and all seemed like such ai-generated stereotypes based on whatever the archetype was (there was one listed as like latvian nonbinary engineer or something that was straight up "i can be whatever you want me to be, darling ;)" which, as a nonbinary person, raised some. concerns.), but weirdest of all was the pay; it was listed as "$1,000 / finished hour" which is INSA N E for a project of this scale. and again, this was on CASTINGCALLCLUB, the website where mostly beginner voice actors audition for small indie stuff or fan projects (or dozens upon dozens of gacha life animations). and they were AMBITIOUS. asking for different accents on i'm pretty sure every single character, and making it clear this would be a project (so a LOT of work on the actor's end most likely). like. i just really need to emphasize. i don't know if they got a voice director, but based on how poorly their casting call was formatted, i highly suspect it was all self-directed on the actor's end, which, in a character-based visual novel where every character is supposed to have extreme personalities and distinct accents, is . and obviously they were asking for accents or nationalities that they know next to nothing about, hence how wonky all the accents and pronunciations are
ALL THIS TO SAY:
that's why the voice acting is Like That. and i do not mean this as a dig at the actors themselves; just at the devs and writers for handling this about as poorly as a voice acting project could be handled. if i got handed a script for "pampered french teen business heiress" without proper guidance i would probably set on fire
Honestly this does a lot to explain why they’re Like That, but also good god that sounds insane
honestly some of the voices in the video actually sound kinda good? if they weren't such insane scripts and in such a joke of a game. i hope the VAs can get better roles in the future because it sounds like with a bit more experience, proper direction and a serious project (as in something being produced seriously and professionally) they could really shine
hahaha you and me both. my friend even had to twitter DM dreamloop to ask about it.
Was gonna come comment on this point. My issue with the voices is less the actors but the direction they were given which was none.
I've never heard of Casting Call Club... is it any good to find resources?
I wish I had never been subject to Naomi's voice acting. There are ways to portray angry, unhinged characters without screaming into your ear every time she speaks :((((
Ngl it jump-scared me the first time she appeared. I legitimately jumped 💀
Noooo little German girl, don't go on the kidnapping bus!
"Oh mein Gott, dis ist ein Bus full of ze Chloroformtüchern!"
The way this comment TOOK ME OUT. Mein Gott indeed lol
Mein gott.... 😔
Bester Kommentar omfg, du verdienst eine Medaille. 😅😭
i thought that this was a meme comment with fake german as a joke only to come back, notice the “translate to english” button, and discover that it’s actually in german lmao
i love German because actual German sounds exactly like the memey usage of German
Out of all the "dark secrets" in the Trust route, Daan's makes the least amount of sense to me. Wouldn't the story of a sickly child overcoming his illness and growing up to become a star athlete be even more inspiring than "he was a prodigy cyclist ever since he could walk"?
I was thinking the same thing, lmao. Was hoping his secret would relate somehow to his fucked-up ideas about justice, but nope
i always used to get annoyed when i saw people going "i bet they're in the closet" about someone being homophobic, sometimes its just a shitty cishet person and nothing more. its cool to see someone call that stereotype out
RIGHT I deeply hate that trope. Sorry, he's most likely just an ass 🤷♂️
Exactly! Does nothing to combat the homophobia and does nothing to combat the misogyny, while implying those are more inherent in gay men than cishet men
To their credit, The True Crime fan being Terrible at solving crimes could’ve been a really funny joke…keyword being COULD
I'll give them this. Most of the time the children that get drafted into these bizarre death games are either American or Japanese, having them all be Europeans is a nice change of pace
yeah that's the one grace i'll give them. we rarely get europe-focused content and if we do it's either britain, italy, france, or maybe germany. and 90% of the time it's because they're doing tourism there or bc they're talking about history. having so many characters from so many different parts of europe and having them say so many things in their native languages is such a breath of fresh air even if it's in a game like this
Meanwhile I'm patiently waiting for Africa or South America to be the main focus...
(Also sorry that the first prominently European version of this sucks so bad!)
"No one is going to know about your game and if they do it's going to be because of this video" is a more toned down version of "I will eviscerate you in fiction. Every pimple, every character flaw. I was naked for a day; you will be naked for eternity." from a knight's tale
I’m only 13k views away from having the most-viewed video about this game on the internet so there’s a very real possibility that this will actually be the most influential piece of Inescapable media out there lmao
@@TheViveros Never heard of the game or watched this channel before but here for the annihilation
1:08:20
it took until the VA read this line out loud to realize this, but the rock is ACTUALLY named bagel?! I thought you were just memeing or something
I mean if you're gonna name your pet rock might as well
Giovanni being gay is probably the best part of this game. No notes. I support queer rights, but most importantly, I support queer wrongs lmao
I SUPPORT QUEER WRONGS!!!!!
I cant handle your character introductions. It's so damn funny.
"Hi, I'm Daan-" Daan is genderbent Dutch Aoi Asahina except with a boner for cops and a fcked up view of justice.
DAMN
Daan’s bio was one of the first ones I wrote and also probably the one that changed the least over time, mostly bc I just thought all of it was pretty funny the first time. “His personality is like if Junpei Tenmyouji was ride-or-die for the thin blue line” is one of my personal favourite lines from the whole thing.
@@TheViveros it made me laugh really hard so i agree
All I see when I look at Daan is the Onceler. Are we sure he isn't fanart from some lorax AU where the onceler's buff?
Isak: *speaks*
Me: 'kaaaay that is NOT the voice I expected from THAT character design.
Exactly! He’s 100% a scene character, so whats with the Black Butler villain voice 😭
I most definitely expected like a light yagami-ish voice
He sounds like "We have James from Pokémon at home"
He's like a Hubert 😂 but I was expecting more abandon
@@Iamstickmanmore Pegasus JCrawford
i wonder if lumi's entire lack of a finnish accent was an intentional choice to represent her life as a multicultural person... or just because they couldn't be bothered to find a VA who knows how to do one. as a finn i really like how the accent sounds and wish it was actually utilized more with characters who are supposed to be finnish or finnish-inspired
edit: GOOD GOD, SHE DOESN'T EVEN PRONOUNCE SAUNA THE FINNISH WAY! absolute robbery
EDIT 2: *THE GAME WAS MADE AND PRODUCED IN FINLAND????*
Excuse me, you're saying the same nation that Spellcrafter Noita and Ultrakilling Ultrakill came from also spawned this abomination?
This gets one step funnier than you guys think because it's currently nominated for Game of the Year at the Finnish Game Awards against Alan Wake 2 lmao
@@TheViveros i just saw that myself this morning when doing more deep dives into the game (including the hilarious patchnotes, which included the gem "Playing the fishing minigame no longer brings people back from the dead") and I'm in tears. what has my nations game industry come to. is this what happens when studios that are actively sponsoring award shows also make games (because yes, dreamloop is a sponsor for the fgoty event! absolutely insane!!)
@@ED-gw9rg both of those games are known for making the player suffer, so in a sense inescapable follows the national tradition of making the player experience pain... just in a different way than most actually good ones
@@ED-gw9rg Also add Fear & Hunger and Cruelty Squad. There's that whole meme about "Finns developing the most unhinged games you'll ever play".
I mean, I've barely started the vid, but have they not missed the point of Daganronpa like champs to say that there is a clear end date and everyone who lives gets 500,000? Sounds like an incentive to get along to me. Like, every time an argument gets too heated, "hey guys, 500,000, remember?"
At a bare minimum they could've said "There's a prize pool of 5.5 million euros that'll be split evenly among the survivors, so act accordingly" so that there's at least SOME incentive for conflict.
genuinely laughed out loud at the part that starts with the character going "i'll be succinct." followed by your caption of "She will not be succinct."
incredible
I think I had a primal disgust/anger response to Annika. The voice acting, the design, everything is just screams "infantilisation fetish"
and as a swedish person it hurts even more
Yeah, she looks like a pedophile designed her to lust over her. The infantilisation. The way she is basically serving them all. And she is also drawn the youngest. Thinly veiled fetish
@@siggevidstige8019 my deepest condolences to you and any annika's you know. I don't usually get to see names of people I know in games due to being Nordic and after this I hope it never happens again
i physically cringed when i heard her, they could weaponize that character
@@siggevidstige8019 same :) "anni likes fika and godis" herregud
Honestly, making a 160+ minute hatedump because people don't understand the difference between criticism and crucifixion? Living for this energy.
He just like me fr
Me fr
could u rec any other hours long hatedumps i love them so much. they fuel me. other than this one i know of "Graduation: A Modern Day Travisty" which is two and a half hours of salt and i live for it
@@Langlocke Thank you for that video - I know how I'll be spending the next 2,5 hours as I'm home sick!
Hbomberguy has some good ones. His video on BBC's Sherlock is a classic. And I enjoyed the 2,5 hour RWBY video even though I've never watched that show (which is the mark of a great rant). I can't think of any other ones off the top of my head, but I'll be sure to edit this if I remember some.
Edit// Oh! Big Joel's video about the movie Click is great too. It has that unhinged energy. Though it might not be as long as the others.
Or as Harrison put it, crucification
As an artist, what pisses me off the most is that the art in the cgs and the sprites is not bad! I love the direction where they used "acrylic standee models" for the characters, I think it's charming
And yet it was wasted all on this horrible game. No wonderful character design, art direction could NOT save the horrendous writing
GOD FINALLY A COMMENT THAT MENTIONS THIS. The designs and art is SO GOOD IMHO. If only we lived in a diff wprld, where this game was as good and short as DDLC...
I was just going to say this, honestly I like how the characters look. Design could be better, more consistent, everything else is bad... but I like looking at them. My brain's just like 'man, what a shame...'
Definitely. Some designs could be better (like Viveros said, to show the personalities of the characters) but I really like Lumi and Gio's designs
I love the acrylic standees, reminds me of dead of winter. I’d love to see that style used for another game
I totally agree! The standee approach is reminiscent of Danganronpa and their use of flat character sprites but given a twist that makes it charming instead of seeming like a straight rip off. I wish that the game continued to find clever ways to use their inspiration to their advantage by putting new twists on it… maybe it would have been passable then.
hi, this video is fantastic, however - i am staring intensely at 1:20:11 because Mia says "Auf Wiedersehen, meine Liebe." which means "Goodbye, my love." about Lumi's death. (well, "auf wiedersehen" literally means "until we see each other again" before anyone wants to get uppity). either this is a botched translation or they did mean to imply that Mia was secretly in love with Lumi.
....diversity win....?
Don't worry, after another 20 or so hours of gameplay you find out that they actually are dating (sometimes) (depends on the timeline)
tbh I feel like the "Killing game with no game concept" seems so funny and unhinged like
"You'll be forced to play a game of life or death!
"A game that will make you...."
"...."
"What were the rules again?"
"What do you mean? I thought you were the one deciding the game"
"I was one responsible for choosing the location and kidnapping the people you were the one choosing it!"
"ARE YOU SAYING I GOT A BUNCH OF STOCKED FOOD FOR NOTHING BECAUSE YOU DECIDED TO BE INCOMPETENT AND NOT DO YOUR JOB?"
and then it could have both of the headmaster try to figure out what game they should play and either have them making shit up on the post or just changing it every 5 seconds so no one knows how to win, if you do it properly it could be a interesting premise
Somebody take Faulerro's place and make a Danganronpa series like this
Sounds like a fun dark comedy honestly, if done correctly of course
Exactly! Making it some satire of the entire genre where the people running it have no idea what they're doing could have worked well, but instead it's....this.
OH my god I JUST realized why Naomi’s voice was grating on my brain specifically. She sounds EXACTLY like one of the creatures from that one part of nostalgia critics the wall review. The one with the hat
What’s wild is you’re not even the first person to make that connection lmao, like if multiple people are independently coming to that conclusion it’s pretty damning
NO YOU'RE SO RIGHT THOUGH WTF
OH SHIT THE ONE W A FETOSH FOR CUTTING HEADS OFF??? I REMEMBER THAT FUCKING THING!
THE ONE W THE FETISH FOR HEADLESSLESS???
i swear to god i just watched that video 😭😭😭
"Core blimey, pish posh, im fucked" is the best thing to come out of this game and its a single line of dialouge
i think "sup bitches, bros, and non-binary hoes" is up there too
This game is if a group of people came together and decided to turn their discord RP into a videogame, looked up how to be camp and poorly tried to follow the exact definition. I actually burst out laughing at several lines of dialogue from the sheer absurdity
As cringe as this may be to admit, as someone who actively participated in danganronpa discord killing game roleplays, I've seen groups of teenagers write more compelling plots, characters and create better art and designs than this actual fucking game company 😭😭
@@Essayien same…same
@@Essayien Ayup. The fandom is horrible at times but I saw rps and characters that were better written than some book characters
@@Essayien yeah, in those situations (as someone who has participated in some) Discord RPs are usually done as a passion project, so those teens actually try their damndest to portray their characters--original or no--the best they possibly can. And that usually entails regulating participants who are intentionally or otherwise derailing the whole thing _(I say this as someone who's had that happen to me before)_ before the affair devolves into . . . Well, another Inescapable.
@@Essayien As someone who STILL participates in danganronpa discord killing game roleplays, there are two sides: people have a LOT of talent with the most biggest writing masterpieces I've ever seen and... inescapable.
love how during the second comic book recap 2 characters pronounce Isak's name 3 different ways in as many sentences. microcosm of the voice direction issues
I have never been certain how to say it because they constantly switch it up between eye-sack, iss-ack, and isaac, and even Isak himself doesn’t seem to really know which one is right.
Omg right 😭 Isak introduced himself saying “Issac” but Harrison keeps saying like…”Ee-sak” and I just don’t know which one it is
this piece of shit game being nominated for game of the year at the finnish game awards against fucking ALAN WAKE 2 is the epitome of hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
Shark tale nominated with Shrek 2 and The Incredibles
This game is like the YIIK of Danganronpa-type games and I genuinely wish I was joking
yiik is the yiik of earthbound type games then? makes sense. maybe mario and luigi… idk yiik is fucking weird. i would say undertale but undertale is very derivative of earthbound already
Don't compare this trash to YIIK.
LMFAO i just finished an 1hr video about yiik and then watched this one immediately after
having never heard of both of these games before, i think inescapable manages to be worse because of the long duration and inexcuseable price
fuck this makes so much sense
@@generalhorsecok7331yeah... at least yiik has something it wants to say. this is just a mess.
Thank you for putting that small wiggly friend to maintain my sanity. I have no idea how you and chat managed to get through dialogue like that for 4 playthroughs without getting locked up in a mental asylum.
I had to put him there for my own sanity, ngl. I had to play another 20 hours of this game to get the background footage so I started adding him in while I was editing bc he made me happy lmao
Also frankly I think the only thing that got me through it was knowing that I was eventually going to get my revenge with this video. Also a lot of alcohol.
The blorbo... the sploinky... rewatched this video immediately just for him...
Edit: Also as a vod watcher I can confirm Viv usually starts actively consuming alcohol just to get drunk at around 30-60 minutes on average.
As a British person the delivery of "well that's just rude, innit" at 51 mins in made me cringe so fucking hard. whoever made this clearly doesn't know how innit works as a sentence piece and the voice actor clearly didn't know how a british person talks. I also got whiplash with the discussion of the prize being €500k because.... harrison immediately replies "wow that's more than my salary!" and maybe it's a me problem but I don't know the conversion of euros and great british pounds, so it gave me the impression that the writers just... Aren't aware Britain doesn't use euros
I mean, I can't imagine it's impossible to find an office in the UK somewhere that converts your euros to pounds, but idk.
@@GarryDumblowski You definitely can, but there's the simultaneous circumstances that €500,000 is significantly more than the yearly salary of a bus driver and that anyone trying to get that much money exchanged will have to go through a more specialised service that might ask why you have that much foreign currency.
@@davidsmith7752 Haha, yeah, I didn't think about having to launder the money until after I sent the message. Ironically, Harrison would probably also be the one with the least ability to launder the money too, since he's a bit of a nobody compared to the others.
@@GarryDumblowski oh its more that it just caught me off guard how immediately he responded to the amount of euros, because I'm not good with exchange rates so if I was in that situation it would fly straight over my head. like I said, it might just be a me issue but also I don't think many people in Britain know that stuff
@@nerdychocobo i feel like it would be reasonably likely that he knows the general level of similarity between the values (like compared to currencies where 500,000 isn't worth nearly as much), that and the fact that 500,000 is presumably a significantly larger number than his salary is makes me think that he wouldn't have to know the exact value to come to that conclusion
I genuinely cannot believe “I don’t even know if you’re waifu or husbando” is actual dialogue written for this game. Absolutely incredible stuff, guys.
let me tell you as a guy with some gender going on, the moment sasha said "gender? in this economy? boomer." i let out the most gutteral scream out of cringe you could possibly imagine
I actually think I lost years from my lifespan after hearing most of the lines in this video ngl
Small gripe compared to... everything else, and it's not like this is the only game that portrays bodies unrealistically - but you're going to sit there and tell me that Francisca looks like THAT when she had a baby TWO MONTHS AGO????
She’s just a single mom who works too hard who loves her kid and never stops.
Ikr? When he said that, I could only focus on her fully defined six pack and skinny waist
@@TheViveros With gentle hands and the heart of a fighter, she's a survivor.
@@TheViveros She's a survivor! ..... literally
either she heals like a baki character or some god blessed her to not have any physical after affects from birthing a literal child
It really annoys me how Mia says “Mist”, cuz we use that as a “dangit, shoot.”
It is NOT a reaction youd have to being told you might be murdered 😭
You mean to tell me you WOULDN'T go "Awh shucks! :((" when faced with the loss of you and your friends lives 🤨🤨🤨???
@@pearlribbons gotta keep it PG friendly 🤣
@@pearlribbons "Erm... so that just happened."
bernd das brot ass reaction
"OH MY GOD! A MURDER" "oh darn it! awkward!" *cue laugh track. slowly turn to the camera. sienfeld music plays*
Harrison's English accent is so bad to a degree that I have rarely seen
Everything about it down to the way he say "innit" is simply wrong in the stupidest way possible. It's almost funny at points
out of all of the ways I've heard american people say innit as a joke, even in *purposefully bad ways*, it has never sounded as awful and unnatural as the way Harrison said it
I'd honestly rather just be called a slur than be called a bruv by the least bruv-sounding motherfucker this side of the prime meridian
He sounds more like he's autotuned, honestly. I'm British and I would not have even guessed this guy was British if you hadn't told me. Getting to the "innit" was like a slap in the face omg
@@TheViveros As a Brit, that comment fucking sent me. Thank you.
I'm English and the moment I heard the voice I had to find out who the voice actor was so I could get explanations (He was born and raised in Canada and only uses his natural accent in all other jobs)
The day media will understand that bilinguals don't randomly use native language words while speaking english and, if anything, outbursts are FULLY in the native language, I'll rest easy. Giovanni's shitty accented Italian gave me several strokes
As someone who doesn't speak a word of Italian, Gio sounded pretty cool to me.
GOD THIS!!!! i had to scroll too much for this comment, this genuinely pisses me off. my language only slips occasionally and then it’s usually just one word, i realise that i switched languages and i go back.
and if the language fully slips to the native one, when im angry for example i don’t finish the sentence in english. this is so annoying in every kind of media, it’s absolutely grating to listen to. no, bilinguals will not say one sentence in english and one in their native language, its fucking stupid, people would not understand half the things we say.
and that’s exactly why it annoys me in media, i literally don’t know what they are saying half of the time because they keep switching languages back and forth. god. thank you for reading my rant
ESPECIALLY BASIC WORDS LIKE ”YES” OR ”THANKS” LIKE YES WE GET IT, YOU’RE FROM A SPECIFIC COUNTRY
Depends on the language - not the case for most European ones (more likely to be the other way around, throwing in English words into a native language conversation), but Filipinos will code-switch between Tagalog and English multiple times in the same sentence.
Why'd they make Lumi be the one to ask Harrison for sex in the Wonderland dream if she's ace............. bro 😭
To be fair, dreams necessarily make sense
@@reaperassasin11 For context, coming from an ace (lesbian) person myself who individualistically likes the idea of certain parts of sex and sexually charged experiences and activities as a way to feel good about myself, my body-especially since I am also chronically ill-and as just a continuation of physical intimacy but cannot imagine myself in the position doing it with anyone nor do I experience sexual attraction, you can absolutely desire sex/sexually charged intimacy, experience sexual attraction and have a libido and wet dreams, ad infinitum while being on the ace spectrum. E.g., someone who's on the ace spectrum may not experience frequent sexual attraction and/or or the general desire to (always) build up to sexually charged intimacy in their relationships but can still be turned on, desire sex, engage in bdsm and kinks and pleasure themselves.
Now is that scene supposed to be a depiction of the fluidity of sexuality? Of course not, at least not intentionally, in the instance of Lumi.
that fucking tea party scene went on for so long it gave me sensory overload
thank you for discussing the ableism with the discussion and treatment of Annika and her infantilization as well as sexualisation.
It's estimated 90% of women with an intellectual disability encounter sexual abuse throughout their lives. It's so bad that forced sterilisation of intellectually disabled women is still legal and practiced in many first world countries (as it's expected they will be raped at some point and their carers do not want them to risk getting pregnant) and they do not have their own reproductive autonomy. Another reason is carers not wanting to deal with them having periods.
It's horrendous. Anyway, I seldom see people discussing the issues of disabled people, especially not the developmentally disabled.
Thank you so much it means a lot and it made me feel tearful hearing a UA-camr who cares because usually it's the opposite where I'll watch a video and suddenly they'll use the r slur or say something awful. I wish you a lovely day and thank you for the video
can confirm, I'm autistic and disabled in other manners and the amount of sexual abuse myself and my disabled friends have gone through is bullshit. I wish people would acknowledge it more often because it's a very present danger
Okay this is a huge nitpick and not even THAT bad in comparison to the more egregious writing, but a huge pet peeve of mine and what signals to me that someone is VERY bad at character writing is making bad Likes/Dislikes.
Notice how nearly every characters’ profiles have like a fun fact, little trivia thing for their Likes (usually favorite foods, hobbies, etc.) but their dislikes are almost always abstract concepts that are representative of their core belief system (Harrison being “loneliness”, Daan being “unfairness”, Gio being “heroes”, etc.)
Sasha’s likes/dislikes are hilariously non descriptive too, like yeah we can tell that the pervert hacker likes mischief and “your annoyed face” and dislikes direct conflict. Do they have a character OUTSIDE of that basic premise? Like maybe Sasha likes drag shows? This would allude to how they quote RuPaul all the time.
I don’t even *like* Danganronpa that much anymore but compare this to any of those characters:
Mondo Oowada owns a miniature dog named Chuck which contributes to dispelling his image of a hardened delinquent, Sonia Nevermind, in the original JPN text, frequently swears in English, which is a funny personality quirk and also makes sense considering she’s a world leader.
it reminds me of my first deviantart ocs tbh. They all hated, like.. "mean people" or some shit lmfao
I don't even get the purpose of short likes/dislikes list. Like, maybe I'm outing myself here, but at least in RP scenes it helps you know what you'll be dealing with and that helps with planning our naratives; here the stories are *already* set in stone, and, unless they do a *catashtropically* bad job writing, it would've been obvious anyway.
I said this to my friend! Saying things like a character "Dislikes snooty people" is such a nothing statement. Nobody likes snooty people, not even snooty people themselves. That tells me nothing about this character, other than the fact that you ran out of ideas for them.
Sonia unironically spouting "Jesus shit son of a bitch!" lives rent free in my mind even after all these years
also sonia likes serial killers, and occult stuff! you wouldn't guess that from her appearance, talent, or how she behaves most times
Anna makes me super uncomfortable. It comes across less like good faith disability representation and more like the Writer's barely disguised fetish they're retroactively trying to justify
I'd consider "barely disguised" an understatement....
It's just so bizarre how Sasha and Annika are even in the same game because it seems like these two were made to appeal to two wildly different demographics that I'm pretty sure have zero overlap. The Ecchi VN fans who'd find Annika appealing are the types to get upset seeing queer characters outside of those who appeal to their fetishes, and people looking for enby representation are typically sensitive to sexualization and infantilization of Annika's character archetype.
by the way I hope Naomi's VA didn't ruin her throat
I know its not important but harrison’s fucking comedically british accent drains any level of tension that could even possibly exist
"blimey. This is quite the bugger of a situation we've found our selves in. Ey mates. We best stop the feckers who put on this bloody island. Or we can play some football to pass the time. I need something to take me mind off the fact I've gone an hour without a pint."
@@somethingclever4297"gee wilikers! I sure do hope I don't miss the next season of Britain's Got Talent!"
Don't forget 1:53:28
"Blimey, pish posh, I'm fucked!"
@@24Nyome as a brit i fucking lost my mind when i saw that line. it's like someone set the british colloquialism slider to maximum
Getting choked: B-Blimey, th-this is a st-st-sticky w-w-w-wicket, blegh
The game feels more like a danganronpa amino roleplay with a 12 year old, a 30 year old ff7 fan, a bunch of edgy teens/young adults, and this one guy who definitely shouldn’t write books with female characters
this is the danganronpa fangame written by 13 year olds that didn't crash and burn from a loss of passion when they started high school
@@fierytigergaming8112 naomi feels a bit like an extreme version of junko imo, except if junko didn't constantly switch personalities (i'm not fully through the vid so that might change)
Just got a ton of nostalgia reading this, my god.
As someone who as a teen participated in a danganronpa amino rp for at least, 2 days before i couldn't take it anymore,
Yes, you are absolutely right.
as someone who did amino roleplaying in the past as a 14 year old damn.
One of my biggest problems with the game is that only one of the routes contains murder mystery elements despite the fact that this was marketed as a death game.
Okay but like. "it'll be livestreamed to our viewers on the internet" ... making them aware they're being watched. meaning they have plenty of reason to still conform to societal norms and like. not murder each other...
Yeah like they explicitly acknowledge that Valerie’s parents were at least following along at the end of Greed, so at a bare minimum anyone with any proximity to power would be basically untouchable. Did Isak and Lumi just like… think the Italian mafia wouldn’t maybe have something to say to them if they murdered their leader?
Annika has a pretty cute design (although i wish she had smaller boobs i feel like the boobs don't fit the design
Oh 1000%, I know I ragged on this game a lot but I was dead serious about Annika deserving so much better. I think I said to another commenter that her and Sasha were my least favourite to interact with bc Sasha would do some Sasha bullshit and with Annika I was always terrified of what they were going to do to her next.
hate that "dislikes: bad people" shit at 19:20, it's so common in OC bios. like, yeah? you hate bad people. who likes them? might as well say you like breathing air lol
Ok can I just say, the good ol “Orient express twist” (They all did it together (spoilers for anyone who hasn’t read a 50 year old book)) would have been a *terrifying* climax in almost any other game. Imagine if that sort of thing was done in a proper danganronpa game, final class trial, it’s revealed everyone is working against you and *has* been working against you from the start. That would be *awesome*. It’s just a shame it’s in a game that couldn’t write its way out of kindergarten.
Yeah like you could do something very cool with that concept - having a killing game where there's an Orient Express ending (even if it's just an optional one) where everyone except the player character gets in on the killing and leaves you trapped as the one innocent person is something you could really do something with. In concept, I get what they thought they were doing with that, but instead it's just like... oh, ok. This was stupid. Especially because you don't actually have to try to live on the island with the dynamic that all the others are killers - it would've been genuinely really cool if you had one more murder after that where they have to trust you to figure it out because they can't trust each other, knowing that they're all capable of killing and deceiving. Instead it just skips to the end and does nothing with it even though there's another month left in the schedule. Even the times Inescapable threatens to do something interesting it immediately undercuts it with a bafflingly dumb decision.
That wouldn’t really happen in a danganronpa game because of the whole only one person can be the blackened.
@@craftergamer9058I think that's exactly WHY it could work in that setting - especially something like Viveros suggested, since everyone/multiple people *could* work together to betray you and in the end, you have to figure out which of them the game will even let you punish while you have to live with all the others for at least another chapter. Not that they'd have to know that in advance, THEY could undertake the plan falsely assuming they could all be rewarded...and/or one or more of them knows it won't work and calculates their contributions so they won't be the scapegoat but someone they want dead will be...and/or after they realize it they all turn on each other and argue why they're not the "real/most" culprit...idk, I think that rule just makes it more potentially interesting.
@@craftergamer9058 in the orient express, i think one of the people tries to volunteer themselves for the crime since they had the strongest reasons to kill them
@@craftergamer9058 to be slightly fair, that doesn't get established at the start of the games, so for the 1st or 2nd murders it could work, or until whenever Monokuma puts it in the guide book. (idk if 2 or 3 stated it from the start, but i know in 1 it wasnt established until trial 3)
I don't usually write longer comments but I respect the hell out of you for this Viveros.
I also got gifted this game on release, and after I played it I knew /someone/ was going to make this video, it just wasn't going to be me. Not only have you broken down pretty much every critique I shared regarding this game, but you kept it focused on the people who deserved it AKA Dreamloop. I made an effort to keep on top of the discourse around this game when I played it and a frankly bizarre and disproportionate amount of hate for the game was directed towards the voice actors for whatever reason, and that really put me off wanting to engage with critiquing Inescapable. That, plus the growing "sacrificial trash" status of the game, shielded Dreamloop proper from the brunt of the discussion about their false advertising, exploitative writing, and infuriating gameplay. I'm glad you kept the target where it belonged.
Also making me listen to that Tea Party again took years off of my life, thank you for that
Thank you so much, that really means a lot. I definitely do think some of the voice acting deserves critique and I understand why that’s gotten a lot of heat (mostly Naomi ngl, good voice directing could’ve saved a lot of the other characters but that one’s irredeemable) but it’s not the fundamental issue, and fixing it would’ve been just putting lipstick on a pig. Dreamloop deserves 100% of the blame for how this turned out - including with the VAs, imo. It’s not like they forced themselves into the game, Dreamloop hired them, wrote a bad script for them, and then didn’t provide adequate voice direction. And some of the VAs are genuinely pretty solid; Francisca’s is good, Eva’s is good (just miscast), and Annika’s is good (just that character shouldn’t exist). I wonder if part of why people defaulted to criticizing the VAs is because critiquing this game for its actual flaws is so hard - there’s too many things to point at but it’s hard to nail down what the actual problem is because everything is buried under a million miles of pointless fluff. Even getting clips for this video was hard because there’s rarely just a good concise “A-ha!” moment - it’s always a dialogue section that drags on and on and on and nobody ever just comes out and says what they’re trying to say, and that makes it a lot more nebulous and difficult when you’re trying to say “This is the problem, this should’ve been better”.
And I apologize for the tea party scene but I think it’s a rite of passage for Inescapable. Every time I got to that point on stream I made chat sit through the whole thing because it’s just… transcendentally bad. I don’t understand how you go through the process of writing, recording, and making art for that scene without anyone saying “Guys, I think this is a really stupid idea, can we just like… not do this?” I genuinely need someone at Dreamloop to go to prison for that one (although ngl Valerie singing “Lazy! Pathetic! A fraud driving a bus in the night!~” has become iconic to me and I will be making it a stream sound alert)
My theory is that voice actors, artists, and such are easier to access and DIRECTLY target, rather than screaming at a group of people who won't see nor care about what you're saying, so that's why people target VAs as if they have any say in development/production. They'd rather go for who they can victimize easiest.
Oh shit! Ozzy! I was thinking of your own VN videos at the start of this one. Nice seeing you here.
as a British person, Harrison's voice and dialogue confuses me because it feels like a combination of a bunch of different places and dialects with no consideration put into choosing a specific place of origin. his accent sounds posh, maybe from the north of England or rich parts of london, but then he says slang like "innit" and "bruv" which just aren't used very often in those communities. slang like that is typically used in the south, areas like Birmingham or the poorer parts of London. normally with british accents and dialogue u can typically figure out someone's home county from their accent and speech but with Harrison i just can't???
It has the same energy as the pokemon sword and shield english translation, where it's just a strange mish mash of everything vaguely british. but at least there it's a fantasy world inspired by Britain, not meant to be real life, and the story is entirely pointless not... The whole fucking game. And his posh accent makes it sound even more unnatural when he says innit or bruv, because those accents just... Don't pronounce things like that. tbh for me his voice didn't even entirely read as a British accent to me, although I'm not the best at identifying accents so that might be a me issue
This man is a vocal chimera
@@nerdychocobo its just like tracers issue from ow lol we need more british vas for british characters
Same thing about francisca.
Sometimes she says things commonly said in portugal, which is okay, she speaks portuguese, BUT SHE HAS A BRAZILIAN ACCENT, not only that, her way of speaking is also brazilian, so i don't know if she is brazilian or portuguese.
Not only that, but her portuguese is somehow form nowhere in brazil, there are no ''Mano'' or ''Piá'' so that i could identify a place, she's just... from somewhere
@@CelestialSylph143 Tracer's VA is actually British, she just has a very thick accent lmao
2:00:18 Portuguese speaker here, just wanted to point out that the way they are pronouncing her name (or shortened version of it) is wrong. Francisca when shortened is Chica but is pronounced as 'Sheeka' because "CH" in Portuguese makes an 'SH' sound. So when they call her Chica it just sounds like they are calling her 'girl' in Spanish.
i couldn't even tell that was supposed to be a nickname 😭 i thought they were just calling her "girl" for no reason 😭😭
It took me noticing that the C was capitalized to realize it was supposed to be a nickname and not the Spanish word for girl 😭 they should have just nicknamed her Kika bc I was sitting here like "wdym a Portuguese person is constantly being called the Spanish word for girl and doesn't immediately kill whoever calls her that"
As someone who has spent WAY too much time creating DR OCs(at this point probably like 6 years if not more lmao) I so agree that this just feels like a cast of DROCs without refinment because I WAS THERE. Never have I felt such second hand embarassment from watching something like this... Never have I felt the urge to just steal all of these characters and actually do them justice AND ALSO HARRISON??? GIVING BAD FAME TO FLAMMER SHIRTS??? BIGGEST SIN OF THIS GAME /lh
I agree with this comment so hard
I think the choice to show big glimpses of the gameplay/cutscenes was the best way to make this case for "worst game" especially when one's ears is pelted by the mixing and the egregious voice acting
Also, Isak has one of the strangest designs/proportions I've seen for ANY character, and that is in every negative regard lmao
EDIT: I should mention this is ABSOLUTELY a directing issue in and not the fault on the VAs, since this is an issue across the board (not to mention having to salvage all this dialogue)
Ok maybe my standards are on the floor from badly dubbed anime, but the voice acting didn't actually sound that bad for the most part? Awful direction, they were obviously told very little about their character outside of a stereotype to embody, but it feels like the cast worked with what they had, especially if they're amateurs (which, based on this being a tiny game by a tiny studio seems likely)
ETA: also shout out to Isaac's VA, they went ALL the way in Jesus
Yeah, I rhink about half at the least are good *voices*. The direction though........ I don't think I can blame the VA's period, I can't see any horrible voices except for the accents that were butchered by (probably) young and newer VA's. @@bye1551
@@bye1551 The VAs sound amateurish most of the time but like, they could do well if they weren't saddled with voice direction that's of the same caliber of the writing.
@@antonioscendrategattico2302 yeah exactly, this was hardly a talent issue. It was primarily a voice direction and writing issue.
@@antonioscendrategattico2302 Like Viveros complained that Lumi's VA was acting completely emotionless, and then Lumi's VA dropped a (pinned) comment where they mentioned being told to portray an emotionless character. You really start putting the pieces together that these amateur voice actors were not given good material to work with, which is a shame since for many of them this game was their debut.
I hope it didn't reflect badly on any of their future voice acting pursuits, they need a more diverse portfolio of work STAT!
"oh this can't be THAT bad, it looks ok-"
gets to annika and how she's treated by the rest of the cast
"NEVERMIND"
Same!! Like, how did that make it through production?!
Just got to this part and... her voice... what were they thinking??? I'm already so scared to see the direction they take her character.
I havent arrived yet to that, I'm scared...did they do something worse than Dangan with Mikan? You should do better than your inspiration, or similar, but NOT WORSE
yeah that ain't right, how did they put someone like her in this clusterfuck and think it's okay, doesn't feel right and reminds me of the bad routes of school days
It's so deeply unsettling that she's treated this way by the cast and the game, cause it's so obvious that she can't consent
I put this video on as background noise for my knitting, having never seen your channel before, expecting to zone out after the first five minutes. Instead I got blindsided by Drag Race references, unwillingly had war flashbacks of my high school Danganronpa phase, had physical cringe responses like I have never experienced before, and listened intently to every minute. Never in my life did I expect to hear "Danganronpa" and "Shuga Cain edit" spoken in the same video, much less the phrase "Dutch genderbent Aoi Asahina with a boner for the cops." 10/10 would watch again but skipping over the actual game footage this time
My favourite thing about the comments on this one has been the number of people who’ve been like “I put this on as background noise but then I heard (insert one of a million unhinged things) and I had to lock in to figure out wtf was going on”. I was worried while I was making the video that I was getting too wrapped up in too much of a silly little thing, and that the length was too long, so I’ve been really glad that other people find this deranged game as captivating as I did lmao
I was putting it on in the background during work and ended up moving from my work desk to my bed to watch the rest of it like a movie once my shift was over. I have never played any of these games mentioned but your presentation and this game's sheer audacity hooked me in. I definitely want to check out other videos of yours. I love rant videos like this of stuff I have no clue about.
I'm wondering why is it that the exactly same personality traits that made Isak such an obnoxious character were incredibly endearing and lovable in Gundham Tanaka?
Now it's been forever since I played dangonronpa v2 and this is just my theory, but I think it's because there was more to Gundham than the whole "edgy prince of darkness" thing.
He genuinely cared for his hamsters, was using the whole edgelord thing as a cover for his social awkwardness/loneliness, and loved his mom a lot. Also, him being really outlandish was a source of comic relief. Isaac doesn't really seem to have any depth of character. The game takes him a lil too seriously, so it's just annoying. Like how the hell did bro seduce Naomi.
@@sukriti7213 That and Gundham was actually funny. Comedy is something that requires good writing, which this game lacks.
One of them is an evil bastard, one is a well rounded good guy. Gundham is clearly just playing up his evil overlord persona but has genuine heart and love for his friends and pets. Isak is equally as fake about being some legendary supervillain, but he actually IS a genuine asshole. So it doesn't come off as endearing antics of someone who could never be genuinely threatening. Its just The Man Who Is A Threat, being extremely fucking smug about it.
These kinds of mannerisms just really intensify a character's personality. And if they have a shitty one, it's gonna get even shittier.
Also Gundham had a great voiceactor and Isak's falls completely flat.
Hamsters
i think that the reason interacting with mia locks you into the suspicion route is because it would make her death and the ending more impactful- if the player is choosing to interact with her shes probably their favorite, or they at least get to know her through all their interactions. instead of just making characters that you care about so that any death is impactful, they just picked one they forced you to like so they could focus the ending on her (unnecessary) death...
Hearing harrison say "crucification" fucking killed me dear god
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO BRING THIS US WHAT DOES THAT MEAAAAAAAN
@@gracegrrl007 think Harris meant crucifixion but the writers got it wrong
I can't take anything Harrison says seriously half the time he sounds so comically ridiculous. "So long you *b a s t a r d*"
Me: All right, let's see how bad this gets!
The voice acting and dialogue at 05:18 punishing me for my hubris and WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN THEY TOLD THE CONTESTANTS THEY WERE BEING WATCHED RIGHT OFF THE BAT
Honestly idk if I'd have hated this game enough to make this video if it weren't for Naomi. I generally don't like to trash voice actors bc I know it's hard and I know that they often get a lot of undeserved hate but there's no forgiving that performance or Dreamloop's decision to use it.
my ears hurt. my brain hurts. every time she speaks i feel years taken off my lifespan
On one hand, I /think/ I get the intent of a Monokuma-esqe narrator: lit "I'm here to annoy you" (Hell of a choice to use that as an opener, either way)
On the other, she feels... Idk, weak? Pointless? Something about her feels flanderised. Like you take all the power away from an effective Killing Game host, and they keep going on about it either way. Like, who opens with "Dont make me drop the nukes"??
Then again, I'm only 13 minutes in to the video, so maybe my opinion will strengthen with time.
As an asexual myself, I should be happy to see the inclusion of an ace person in the cast. But the fact they're described as 'heartless', which falls back on the stereotype that asexual people are like emotionless robots who can't feel love or affection, along with the wonderland dream where they were desperately begging to be 'used' by Harrison, make that a very, very insulting inclusion and honestly makes me feel a little sick. Not one thing in this game's attempts at 'representation' isn't just a horrible insult. They don't even accidentally get something right!
Media like this is part of the reason why I have a cynical attitude towards representation in media.
@@indigomizumi I mean, when you think about it, it's kind of ironically embedded to the concept of representation in media:
Representation requires the experience from the side that is represented, NOT the side that observed them, as it can have skewed perspectives and not have the full picture.
But since most people that are in control of the media's narrative, writing and visual/audial expression never experienced those represented moments, by the nature of the representative usually being a minority and/or treated unequally, or they more often then not get it wrong.
In short, The fact that we want to represent something means that the people which create that representation likely aren't part of it due to the fact the represented are not equal in amount and status, and that can make the representation incorrect
Moreover, even consulting only a single or few represented people about can also go awry, as most representation aren't one sides to fit all, Like how all Autistics or all Asexual are different and experienced different things.
That's why I think Clear and Major Media Representation should be made with consultant of sufficient amount of the represented AND Proper research of the topic and it's many perspectives.
@@tetrachart4156 Thing is, you also just need more representation in volume. There are so many different aspects of being autistic, and so many different people can have nothing in common yet still all be asexual, that simply consulting enough people still wouldn't do them any justice. The people affected by autism or those that identify as asexual are so diverse that it's genuinely impossible to represent them with one character, as is the nature of a spectrum. The best one story can do is avoid stereotypes.
You say "I thought it was written by someone on 4chan" but 4channers wrote Katawa Shoujo, a game with genuinely incredible disability rep
And Snoot Game, with (arguably) solid LGBTQ+ introspection
You know...the Giovanni as gay thing COULD have worked if it was played up to focus more on his family than the toxic masculinity thing. Like "My wife is even MORE of a devoted Catholic than me, if she knew I was gay, she'd take my children from me, and I love them more than life itself! I'd be excommunicated, kicked out of my home, and my darling children taken from me...I'd lose everything and everyone I love!" It'd be much more understandable why he'd want to hide his sexuality then if he legit feared he'd lose his children over this secret being exposed. Then it could make him likable. Add in more scenes of him talking about his family, of how his son and daughter's faces make him smile just picturing them in his mind's eye, then it makes him relatable. Sympathetic! It COULD have worked. But they botched it.
That fishing minigame is the most atrocious rhythm game I've ever seen
It's genuinely baffling how bad it is. And it's not like it just gets desynced from the music if you sit on the starting screen for too long, because it'll hold off on actually giving you the notes until it thinks it's hit a point that it should come in at. If it turned out that that section was programmed with a different song and then it randomly got swapped to that one it would make so much more sense.
Especially when the "good" "great" "perfect" text appears OVER WHERE THE NOTES COME FROM, BLOCKING YOUR VIEW??? WHY COULDNT IT HAVE BEEN UNDERNEATH
It really took the "worst rhythm minigame" crown from the skyward sword harp strumming 💀
@@beingmegucaissuffering.5326 and, mind you, the harp strumming is like 10 minutes max of gameplay. If anything, the pumpkin balancing minigame was far more annoying
Its also the most terrible fishing minigame ive ever seen too, amazing how they did a twofer with that
as someone who's portuguese, francisca's romance route being "garagem da vizinha" is a reference to the song by quim barreiros that is basically about the singer and the neighbour having an affair
and personally i need francisca to be in a better game than this PLEASE ill save you francisca ,..,..
i legit burst out laughing when i heard her go "FILHOS DA PUTA" essa gaja é do norte caralho ahhahaaha
help when she yelled “FODA-SE” i laughed so hard i wheezed and started coughing . shes actually iconic 😭😭
I CAN FIX HER (put her in a better game)
@@blueberrymuffin_144 AND IT WAS ALSO A GOOD FODA-SE. Man, this might be the most wasted portuguese character in existance, please put her in a better game...
put her gio and annika in a dangan fan game that actually knows wtf it's doing and all of them are fan favorites instantly
As someone who's autistic, Annika's sexualisation and infantilisation was SO goddamn uncomfortable to watch.
I wanna give her a hug
True, I want to take her out of the game and treat her better
@@lolzu Ah, yes, the best way to object to infantilisation. Hugging the poor little meow meow.
Same tbh, like it really tells you a lot about how they see autistic people, or people with developmental disabilities in general. We're children up until they want to fuck us, then we're sex objects.
@@tiacat11 you can respect a person and still want to comfort them..
The Trust route tells me that you could make a pretty damn good story about how a lot of famous social experiments that aimed to prove something sinister about "human nature" (e.g. the Stanford prison experiment, the Milgrim experiment) needed A LOT of meddling from the researchers to get those shocking results.
As it turns out, most humans are not too keen on harming other humans without being coerced into it. Some shady wannabe scientist or TV producer constantly poking and prodding at a group of people trapped on an island in an attempt to turn peaceful cooperation into a Lord of The Flies scenario would be a great premise for psychological horror!
Shame this game ain't it.
Side note: While the voice acting in this is really shaky, I've got to point out that Mia's VA absolutely nailed the German parts. Her pronounciation is flawless. Either she was raised bilingual or she put in an impressive amount of work for this shitty little game.
It might be stockholm syndrome but after sitting through this video I find myself facinated with these characters and almost liking some of them, especially watching the trust route I found myself actually kinda caring about what happens to them (except harrison hate him, particularly liked Annika, Mia, Francisca, and Eva) and even pausing through some of the lines of the ones I liked to get a better idea of what was happening. Great video I loved this lmao-
I wish this game was better, it makes me angry how it's made so poorly it reads as actively hostile to what it tries to represent. More specifically, I resonated with Annika more than I was expecting and it hit a bit close to home, and how shes treated throughout the video made me viscerally uncomfortable. It also reminded me of those things and makes me want to be more intentionally communicative about my relationship with my maturity and how others interact with it. Thanks for highlighting that, as uncomfy as it was (good gods)
Yeah, I liked a lot of the character designs and I feel like most of the characters personalities would've been fun if they had more balancing and were fleshed out a lot more. And the idea of trapping people on an island with no rules and watching it spiral to chaos is really fun. Overall the set up was so good it's just butchered by poor execution and dumb decisions by the creators
this is EXACTLY HOW I FEEL AJJDKAHDJ
i swear to fucking god, i never saw you stream this game, i never saw anything about this game, i didnt know this existed. But when i saw isak, i was like "is he norwegian" and then getting the confirmation just takes the soul out of my body
Y'know, I think what enrages me most about the suspicion ending is the fact that they all got away with it! They murdered an innocent girl and knew exactly how to save her, but just let her die all the same. And none of them faced justice for it.
@@fierytigergaming8112 Thing is, Mia's poisoning happens notably slower than the rest of the cast, so there was a window of time where every poisoned victim was dead except Mia, a window that the culprits could have used (or Daan, at least) to still give her an antidote. That suspicious timing could come up in the trial, even.
The fact that they're all like ''murder is bad'' only to have murdered a completely innocent woman and none of them reflect on that is wild. like I get Sasha might not care but Annika Fransisca and Daan?
gios coming out was litteraly one of the funniest moments ever period
I genuinely don’t think I’ve laughed that hard at anything for at least a couple years. I know I showed a couple clips of it in the video but on stream we were going off on it for a *while* because it was just too funny.
Giovanni Lombardi invented gay wrongs
@@Cosplaybuddygiraffeshe made them so jojo part 5 could run
I damn near spat out my drink at it because I'm already thinking "every angry guy I've had met have been aggressive towards me, but showed one particular thing..." Then the all caps text sent me and my drink to the heavens.
I don’t think you can blame the voice actors for the bad voiceover work, you can tell even from this shitshow that they have some level of competence, though it’s also obvious that these are amateur voice actors who likely haven’t had too much experience yet. The general rule of thumb is that if all the actors are bad, it’s an issue with direction and not the fault of the actors. Based on my limited knowledge of how these types of games are produced, my guess would be that they hired amateur voice actors and just handed them their lines to record at home. Then they just slapped whatever they got into the game and called it a day. I doubt there was any face-to-face interaction between the actors and the director, odds are it was all just done through e-mail. That’d be my guess at least.
Yeah the fact that the characters seem to pronounce the some of the other characters names differently gives off that vibe to. Sure you could argue it's because of their accents but just look at the second comic book recap on the suspicion route where Mia and Harrison pronounce his name completely differently despite it being a conversation.
36:02 Is it just me or is this character description really weirdly written in a way that none of the others are?? It seems to me like they're *really* trying to avoid needing to use they/them pronouns at times...... "Sasha loves tech, and is a naturally curious tinkerer. Smoking is second nature to Sasha. During Sasha's travels..." Just use a pronoun jesus christ!!!
Early video me: “Ah…a Black ace character. Finally, some good fucking re…”
Late video me: *thud sounds intensify as I slam my fists in rage upon my desk*
may I offer, Mirabelle from In Stars And Time
Him being black is entirely fandom that everyone singlehandedly accepts, but Jonathan Sims from the magnus archives (who is also the writer's name don't worry about that he didnt know he wasnt making an anthology) is canonically ace and is fucking incredible I love how he develops
I love this type of video where someone tears apart a fictional property they hate.
My heart SANK when about three minutes in i saw the name "Eva Tamm", frantically googled her in fear, to have my suspicions confirmed. Tamm is a common Estonian surname, it means oak, which is the national tree.
One of THREE Estonian characters I've encountered in non-estonian media, and she's in this game -_- literally fucking heart broken.
The transphobia for one is distasteful, evidently.
And you're telling me there's a Swedish and a Finnish character and they don't take the opportunity to use the characters' cultural backgrounds for interesting interactions? Na, why would a character who's been kidnapped try to connect with other kidnapped people from cultures they've likely interacted with before?! As an estonian Eva has likely visited Finland several times, and may have relatives in Sweden, for example.
Also missed opportunity for the fact that Eva is a character from a small country many don't hear much of and an attention seeker. If her sounding like a valley girl were a purposeful creative choice maybe she's stripped herself of any indication she's Estonian to more easily fit the image she wants to present of herself. After all, not many would find an Estonian accent sexy.
Her cultural background doesn't inform any of her actions, her characterisation or even her vocal performance. What was even the point?
As I said, she's one of three Estonian characters I've seen in non-estonian media. I always get a little excited when I hear there's an Estonian character in something, and this time, I was right to feel horrified instead.
The thing about her being from a smaller, often neglected country is something they really could’ve done something with as a social media influencer character, especially given Estonia’s unique history with mass media as an SSR that could get some Western television signals through - of all countries, given the producers of the game - Finland. Hell, even just a joke about how she’s used to voting digitally could’ve been a silly little nod to Estonia’s e-government stuff. There’s a history there that could’ve been used to inform her character and her pursuits and tell a more interesting story about her, but instead you wouldn’t even know she was Estonian if she didn’t specifically tell you.
@@TheViveros Absolutely! And if they wanted to actually write character development they could have her arc be about learning to be proud of her culture instead of putting on a fake valley girl accent and trying to be as "generic influencer" as possible.
They could have built off having a character who doesn't have an obvious tie to their cultural heritage by making it a narrative decision that goes somewhere instead of whatever the fuck they did.
It wouldn't be unrealistic for a young person from a small country people rarely hear of to get one lick of "viral fame" and chase more of it to the detriment of expressing their own personality + cultural background. Competent writers could've done something with it.
And having other European characters in the cast should've made any form of cultural reference easier, you'd think. An interaction between Lumi and Eva on how the former's family has gone on day trips to Estonia to buy cheaper booze, for instance, would be a no-brainer. You'd think having Finnish involvement in the game would make little facts/references like these beyond easy to implement.
@@kajakas_kulp Ah man. Estonia sounds cool, full of history and culture. I mean that seems obvious to every country that exists, but it truly is a challenge to make a character from a different country from your own.
Like mannerisms, language, social interactions, even mixing media from other cultures into their own. I understand the frustration when they get most info from the first page of google.
Speaking of european interactions, isnt Isak Norwegian? And Annika is swedish? Norwegian and swedish are plausible to understand by ear, and finns(due to, uh, opression.) are usually educated to learn swedish. I feel like it couldve been a neat flavor to see some of our characters with similar languages speak in a different language to attempt to keep something on the down low? Or something? (Edit* seems like the greed ending the mafioso and the mechanic did speak a different language to hide what theyre talking about to hide it from harrison, so good on them ig.) Or like. bare bitch bonding over being from an area with cultural overlap. Or digs at each other. Most online finns I know take any opportunity to make fun of swedes(rightfully so), and god know swedes have a lot of shit to talk about its neighbours.
Also, only vagely related: I, for one, am from sweden and greatly dislike heat, and moreso than being kidnapped and focibly stranded on an island, being forcibly stranded on a TROPICAL island?? Id die. Like, some skandinavians adore warm vacations, but fuck that noise, Id rather ski everyday for a week straight in fjällen again than travel anywhere near the equator again.
All that to say: do the characters ever really remark anything about the locale? Comparisons to their homes, if theres anything they miss or prefer? Idk.
@@TheViveros That makes me VERY tempted to make an original Estonian character purely based off this idea. THAT SOUNDS SO INTERESTING, GENUINELY.
Harrison sounds like a minecraft youtube who's friends later on have to apologize for his "unacceptable behaviour".
Isak looks like if JD from Heathers worked in organization 13 and shopped at hot topic. His voice sounds like someone doing a bad impression of James from team rocket
What makes Danganronpa WORK is the fact that the characters are indeed caricatures taken to extremes, and yet they're more than just a single trait. This allows you to get the idea of who they are and build rapport... Before they're brutally killed or executed. And those that survive to the end, you don't want to see die.
But these characters here? They have the idea... But they missed the mark.
Yeah they are stereotypes juuust enough that you can easily remember all them... But also human once you speak to them... USUALLY.
DR works because they demonstrate WHY cliches exist. These archetypes exist for a reason. I replayed DR recently and liked how the characters start off as over the top caricatures and the more time you spend with them the more you start to see them as real people with depth. They become grounded. It’s done well. DR has issues but deserves its flowers sometimes.
One thing to mention is that Gio is Italian raised in a less globalized world so it makes sense that he doesn't know much about Stomewall but it does show the lack of knowledge and research abou the experiences of queer people during the latter half of the 20th century. Also what is the sister's nationality. They are implied to be hispanic but also their accent when saying anyrhing in spanish is plain wrong regardless of birthplace.
I think it would make sense if he didn’t know about the Stonewall stuff at the time, but to say he didn’t grow up in an age with that stuff was just bizarre especially when he says that Sasha did grow up in that world. By my estimate, Sasha’s probably between 20-35, so it still wasn’t in their time.
Also, I think Naomi and Naima are supposed to be Spanish? The characters were kidnapped in Spain and I think Naomi’s accent is a bit more Spanish, but the VA who did them both pretty clearly just doesn’t know how to do accents. If the game didn’t explicitly establish that the characters are all European I wouldn’t have guessed they were even from the same continent ngl.
When Naomi said "pendejo" like that's a word Spaniards commonly use, it was such a whiplash. I understand there's A LOT of accents and dialects, but come on, it's like they couldn't "fact check" the text with a Spaniard at all.
Or maybe they're not Spanish? But I don't think it's the case since they're supposed to be all European. Overall, very weird, and I wonder if native speakers of other languages of the characters noticed these inconsistencies with their speech and their nationalities.
I mean, my mom's older than him and she knows about Stonewall well enough to know that it happened when she was in university. Giovanni is just one of the most infuriating stereotypes ever.
Giovanni would be more like a Sicilian mafioso.
The thing is, the fact that he mentions it at all implies he knows it exists, so the fact he misses the time it took place just makes it feel like the writers couldn't even spare a quick search on what year it happened.
"Which IS deeply relateable as someone who also doesn't like Harrison."
Did not see that coming
how did they completely miss the point of the comic book recaps in danganronpa being big energetic climaxes?? why’s the music so calm, why’s the voice direction so limp, what was the thought process at all?????
I really hate how no one mentions that mia is wearing three different patterns, all with different hues. She really went outside like that.
This is really funny because I’ve looked up clips of the game out of morbid curiosity and there’s multiple conversations in the Common Route that Harrison has with Isak and Valerie about her fashion. Isak and Valerie think it’s horrendous but Harrison is like “we should just let her wear what she wants guys” so even the game acknowledges it 💀
Even funnier to me is that eventually there’s an interaction where apparently Mia successfully took Isak and Val’s advice and Harri is like “oh wow”. And then they start insulting Harrison’s outfit saying he’s “beyond saving” 😭
Also I thought her red and black socks looked off, like it was too much red with her skirt. The red parts were too close together. It's a small nitpick but I always thought the socks shoulda been white or blue and black instead of red.