A quick look at the NAD C700 Streaming Amp. Is it good? Kind of. Watch and see.
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Thank you to my friend John for loaning me this unit. The NAD C700 is a decent product. It's feature set is very good. It's form factor and layout are also very good. Blue OS is ok. The unit is held back by it's sound quality. It is a bit to "Class D" for my tastes. At $1500.00 it is a good value if you like the way it sounds.
NAD C700 $1499.00 amzn.to/4cwqba9
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Thank you to my friend John for loaning me this unit. The NAD C700 is a decent product. It's feature set is very good. It's form factor and layout are also very good. Blue OS is ok. The unit is held back by it's sound quality. It is a bit to "Class D" for my tastes. At $1500.00 it is a good value if you like the way it sounds.
I wouldn't judge Class D by the $1500 NAD C700, you gotta think that the streaming part is $500, preamp is $400, so that only leaves $600 for the amp.
My $2400 NAD C298 class D sounds better than even my Class AB $1500 Parasound 2250v2 or $2800 Arcam PA240.
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@@mrpmj00 I didn't. I own a Cambridge EVO150 and love it.
I don't stream music and have no plans to do so but I do like having a look at the tech. You explain things extremely well and I'm confident I could put this unit to work if I streamed. 😊
Thank you. I appreciate that.
Beautiful piece!! I am a big fan and supporter of the Synergy that can be had from AIO's... :) cheers Ed! Well done sir..
Thank you my friend.
I enjoy your reviews, especially when you make comparisons and recommend certain speakers with electronics.
Thank you so much. I appreciate that!
Great job, Ed. Honest review of a well featured product.
Thank you my friend. See you Sunday?
@@OldGuyHifi you bet.
Always enjoy your perspectives and equipment reviews. Gives us all an honest insight into equipment available today.
Thank you sir. I do appreciate it.
Would be a great starting point. Then later down the road get a external amp. I'm happy to see it has pre amp out. Great review.
Thanks Jim. BTW, thank you for being a channel member. I really do appreciate it.
Excellent review thank you sir!
My pleasure!
Great video! I like the depth of your reviews.
I appreciate that!
Very nice unit. Seems streaming receivers seem to be getting popular.
As I mentioned in another video, I recently bought a Marantz Stereo 70s which lets me stream using HEOS. A very attractive feature for me is, I now can link my Marantz SR8015 in ny den with the Marantz Stereo 70s in my study! I can even choose an input in either one of the amps and play it in any HEOS device. I thought this was so neat, I can play a vinyl album in my turntable connected to the SR8015 and listen to the album in my study using the Stereo 70s.
I have to say, as much as I like my annual roon subscription, with both units linked using HEOS, I will probably not renew my roon subscription come January!
Again, my sincere thanks for the review and advice. Regards.
I think it is cool they way well thought out modern gear can do that. Thanks.
No ChromeCast is a miss for me and todays Class-D should be much better, thanks for your look into this unit!
Thank you. It has an ok feature set but does fall a bit short in some aspects i.e., no Chromecast and honestly the Blue OS and the streamer section is not up to snuff. I appreciate your comments.
@@OldGuyHifi thanks for your reply! I would compare this to a Wiim Amp. I know it's a fully different price/quality range as the NAD. My application has a lower HiFi requirement. I use it in my kitchen with built in speakers in the ceiling alcove above the counter. It's not ideal in placement. However, just for our everyday radio listening or introducing the kids (or the parents 😁) to some music it works great. This is the spot we hang out the most and I must say, the Wiim Amp is VERY useable for this application and as such by far the most used piece of audio gear used in our family.
We do a similar thing. When we built the house I installed in-walls and in-ceiling throughout the house. I used to have an HK rec'vr in almost every room to run them. Now I have some Ayima amps with blue tooth and we just stream from our phones or tablets. So I totally understand what you are describing. Thx.
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I wouldn't judge Class D by the $1500 NAD C700, you gotta think that the streaming part is $500, preamp is $400, so that only leaves $600 for the amp.
My $2500 NAD C298 class D sounds better than even my Class AB $1500 Parasound 2250v2 or $2800 Arcam PA240.
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S U P E R B ! assessment of this Gorgeous C700.
NAD should be justifiably proud of its Generosity of feature-set items in this unit!
My (Personal) approach in highly recommending the C700 starts with ENTIRE System cabling, which WOULDN’T BE one red cent above $2400. the lot!
And as for Sound Quality, heavy use of those tone controls, crossover points, and App Eq’s (along with extensive cable research, should yield more high-end “Masters Series” sound. Along with system building, (just like everything else! A very highly rated Power Conditioner could definitely jack performance to MS levels!) In this, DUE DILIGENCE pays off!
High Flags! for NADs
C700!
Cool, good job, thanks Ed!
Hopefully we’ll get some more Spotify playlists soon? I’ve done a free trial of Amazon music, not really diggin the interface and it makes my iPhone heat up and shuts down the app. I’m just gonna stick with Spotify and hopefully they’ll offer hi-res soon 😂
I have put the call out. Fingers crossed. I didn't care for Amazon at all. I do Tidal & Qobuz. I do have a Spotify account that I share with the fam. I am not very optimistic about hi-rez on Spotify. Although that could be part of the reason for the recent price hike. IDK.
Thanks for the review! Are you planning to review the Marantz M1?
Not at this time. I don't have any contacts at parent company Sound United. I wish I did. Thanks for tuning in.
I prefer Cambridge Audio streamers for sound quality & and simplicity for user.
I completely agree with you. They just don't have an all in one at this price. EVO75 is a bit more money with a bit less connectivity but, if it is like the EVO150, it would walk this NAD on sound. Instead of this unit I would get a AXR85 and an MXN10 and be don for about $1K. Thanks for coming back to the channel. I appreciate it.
@@OldGuyHifi I just got my first integrated amp a few months ago. I’ve always used receivers in the past. I got the Cambridge Audio CXA61. Didn’t really need an amp, but wanted to pair a British amp with British speakers that are new to me also. I wanted that “British Sound”, and I must say I really like the rig. It suits my tastes for
listening to music. I do want a streamer, and the AXN10 or MXN10 are about what I would spend for a streamer. Thanks for reviews and interaction. 👍🏼😎🎶
@@Norman-bone13 I can't recommend the AXN10/MXN10 highly enough. They sound fantastic. I like the fact that it is Cambridge's in house developed system based on Linux. So no worries about obsolescence. They are still supporting their streamers from 10-12 years ago. I think that is a good indication of their dedication, I know that Cambridge has "open" box & "B" stock units on ebay for $329.00. Let me know what you decide to do. Thanks so much.
@@OldGuyHifi Thanks bro. Yeah, I watched a couple of your videos on the Cambridge MXN10. I considered it an enthusiastic, glowing review. Your take helped me in my decision process. You had me at sound quality and ease of use & simplicity. I got my CXA61 as an open box deal for $509. I couldn’t pass. I’ve seen the MXN10 for $399 as open box deal. I just have to save for it. I don’t buy stereo gear on credit unless it’s an interest-free deal w/time limit. I’m old and music has always been a major part of my life. It’s nice to be a as Levi discuss this stuff with another devotee. My two best friends I could discus this stuff with have passed in past two years. By the way, I enjoyed your SkyLabs visit. I’m a subscriber to them also, and really like their vids.!’ve considered a road trip to visit them too, but it’s not practical for me now. Thanks for the platform. Hope you get to review the Super Dentons. 👍🏼😎🎶
Are you planning on reviewing the upcoming C700 v2 and especially the room correction feature?
I am not sure Lenbrook would send me anything after that review. Honestly if you want room correction then spend $150.00 on a WiiM pro and use that. It is essentially the same tech as the NAD scheme. I must be honest and say I am not a big DSP proponent. My room is well treated and was designed from the get go to be acoustically neutral. Thanks for the view and comment.
So bass management is NOT capable of specifying high pass to internal power amp and thus out to speakers?
It doesn't say on the NAD product page but, after some digging I found that it does low pass the main speakers at 18dB per octave based on the sub woofer setting. That's not bad. Info here: www.soundstagenetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2667:nad-c700-integrated-amplifier-dac&catid=97:amplifier-measurements&Itemid=154 I hope that answers your query. Thx.
@@OldGuyHifi "low pass the main speakers"? Low pass is for sub/bass. For the main speakers, it would be a high pass that removes the burden of the lows from the main amp/speakers.
Sorry. I miss-spoke. You are off course correct.
Been saving my pennies to upgrade Node to M10 v2 but announcement of c700 v2 looks interesting. The unit would be in a cabinet so the lack of a touch screen wouldn’t be an issue and is something paid for but not used. This would save me quite a few pennies. I have B & W 606 speakers. I like the brightness and treatment of the top end so, after your comments of this model, will be sure to audition before pulling the trigger.
That's great. I am glad you got some decent info from the video. Advance word on the C700 V2 is positive. Better overall performance. Thanks for your view and comment. Good luck with whatever you choose.
Considering M10 v2 or more likely C700 v2.
Interested in how eARC works. I know its purpose, I am already using it in my set up.
At the moment, the ARC is connected to a Marantz streamer. Music source is an early Bluesound Node with no eARC connection. Switching on the TV, as expected, switches on the Marantz in TV mode, so I have to change the Source on the Marantz to use the Node as a source.
If I am using the Node and switch off the TV, then the Marantz switches off and it’s another long walk from the couch to switch it on again and select The Node as the source 😂
So, how does the eARC work on the M10 and C700?
Does switching the TV off affect streaming music?
Does switching the TV on override the streaming music?
Is it possible to display Album Art on the TV?
Is that optional or is it only displayed if selected through some setting or other?
Possible other scenarios I haven’t thought off. Feel free to comment.
Any other comments about the possible upgrade would also be welcome.
e-Arc can't display album art. It is a control protocol only. If you are using the TV remote then yes it will switch off the amp. The easy solution is to use the optical Toslink form your TV to the Marantz and just use the Marantz remote for volume. I have no experience with either of those units using e-Arc. I am no an e-Arc user in my system. I am sorry I don't have better answers for you. Thanks for asking and viewing.
Hello and thank you for this great review.
I have a pair of Dali Oberon 7 and I want to use them connected to a TV (hdmi is a must for my wife) and to stream good quality audio via Spotify Connect.
I am currently evaluating Wiim Ultra paired with a power amp, Marantz Stereo 70s, Marantz M1 and this one, the C700. The C700 seems to have the best all-in-one package.
What are your thoughts? Would the C700 be a good fit for the Dali?
I don't have any experience with that combination. Sorry. I thought the NAD was a bit too bright for my tastes but, that doesn't mean you wouldn't like it. Thanks for tuning in.
Two words: HEADPHONE JACK.
No kidding. It is an omission for sure. Thanks for watching.
Erm, Bad Timing ! ? ... The Mk 2 is already 'In The Shops' ! I don't know what 'Improvements' there are over the original but .... U have just reviewed a 'No Longer Available' Product !
Not really. They were on close out when I did the review. I don't think the new sounds any different. BTW, thanks so much for the music suggestions. They have been gret.
@@OldGuyHifi Glad U enjoyed the Music .... More to Come ..... ATB
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I knicked myself picking my nose. Lol.