What Is GMRS? Wouxun KG-805G GMRS Radio Revealed!
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- What is GMRS? GMRS Frequency and mode discussion, along with NEW REVEAL from Wouxun - the KG-805G GMRS HT
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We got both a KG-805G and the KG-1000G 50Watt mobile in the last few weeks and love them both. Especially like the simplified interface of the KG805G - ie; less buttons
I got the mobile last week, haven't tested it yet but I'm looking forward to it.
@@HamRadio2 what type of distance do you get with the kg1000g was thinking about buying g 2 to set up as a repeater
@@tangowhiskey-jc5zt in our testing of the KG1000g we got about 26 miles and still had full signal - but we ran out of line-of-sight room so we couldn't test any further.
I bought this radio from BTWR and upgraded to the 15” Nagoya. I have to say that I’m quite impressed. Very solid construction at a reasonable price. I hit repeaters 33 and 12 miles away. I highly recommend this radio for those looking for a higher-end GMRS handheld.
Great to hear!
Love seeing you and Hoshnasi adding more GMRS (and MURS) content, precisely for the reason you mention - prepping for the human malware virus. No way I can get my parents to bother with passing the Amateur testing, but I can make sure they have an idiot-proof GMRS HT and a repeater.
LOL, that sounds like me. :o
On GMRS, the repeater inputs are the simplex frequencies +5MHz. So, you noticed the frequencies listed for channels 23-30(467.xxx)? Those were the repeater input freqs. The frequencies for channels 15-22(462.xxx) were simplex and repeater outputs.
ETA: GMRS is not open. It's channelized.
that is not true u can build your own repaters with plu 5mhz offset
Illegally, anything can be done. The FCC plan isnt a suggestion.
Because of you I just signed up for GMRS and paid. It was difficult to do on the FCC site. You helped me get my KF0DAQ with your training programs. Actually, you cost me a lot of money...heeeheee. I understand the Kenwood factory has a major problem making it difficult to get the D-74A. Thanks and Happy New Year. Gerhardt. 🎉🤪🇺🇸
ch 15 - 22 is the repeater output channels and the channels above 22 in your chart are the repeater input channels so to answer your question, combine the 2 to get the frequency pairs... WRCB663 / KE0IHJ, yes I am both a ham and gmrs licensed user. I have both my licenses hanging on my wall in my shack so I can monitor the expiration dates.
Correct! And just to add, that it is the PL (CTS or DCS) tones that differentiate GMRS repeaters. Not so different than ARS repeaters but limited to specific channels on GMRS with specified input and output frequency pairs, as you mentioned. So channels 23-30 are all you'll ever need to hit every GMRS repeater available (GMRS channels 15-22 with corresponding +5MHz offset). You'll simply need to change the PL tone on the corresponding 'RPTR 15-22' channel to hit a specific repeater. And it's all done through the radio screen/buttons without a programming cable. This Wouxun is similar to the BTECH-V1 GMRS radio, but perhaps with a better antenna that's tuned for the GMRS band...?
GMRS, the gateway radio? Recieved two this week. Very powerful GMRS ONLY radio. Meaning, FRS cannot have a removable antenna. This one does. You can program other channels with LISTEN only. Which is cool, fire,police, ham bands, etc. You can put an antenna on a 60 foot mast and probably reach a 5watt radios maximum potential. Which an awesome value. Not to mention the high power FM radio built in. Emergency listening. I will be building a simplex(repeater) soon for increased range. Also has a Lithium Battery, hard to kill. This is NOT a bubble gum radio. Thanks for producing this radio. WRFZ615
Thanks for commenting.
Simplex repeaters are not legal on GMRS. Why not use a 50-watt mobile and a 50-watt repeater?
I think the amateur radio community can be a little quick to dismiss GMRS, but I really think it still has it's place in the radio world. Ham is my primary but I do have a valid amateur and GMRS license. I can't get my wife to get her ham license but I can get her to carry a GMRS radio. Downtown Seattle also has a dedicated EOC GMRS repeater and I think that adds a great service to the community
i'm in the seattle area too ..i didn't know about the EOC GMRS repeater!
@@1MinuteFlipDoc Here is the info mygmrs.com/view?id=3521
@@1MinuteFlipDoc There are actually a lot of Seattle area repeaters. I'm in Magnolia and have been talking to people in Auburn and Carnation. As CharlieMic5 reported, hit mygmrs. The Seattle net person is really nice, they are HAM guys that have some GMRS repeaters and are really friendly.
Got questions about GMRS? You should ask the guy with a walkie-talkie and a Jeep. That seems to make him an expert on everything 🤔 Thanks for the informative video!
LOL I know who you are talking about....
@@HamRadio2 😎
what call sign does my spouse use when using my gmrs radio when communicating with me, since there is only one call sign assigned to me?
It's the same call sign
You can add a suffix like “unit 1”, “unit 2”, etc.
just picked one of these up after seeing it has roger beep
LOL
DCS and CTCS are not really private. In fact if you clear them out you can hear the conversations. They simply modulate a code at the beginning of the transmission. If you have 2 radios on one ctcs and 2 more on another ctcs they will not hear each other but if you clear them on a 5th device you can hear all 4 radios. Its done to have selective sub channels on the same frequency. Hope that helps.
This is true on GMRS where the CTCSS is RX only, but with Ham Radio, you can also TX with CTCSS so clearing out the radio won't allow you to hear the transmissions.
Great review, and even greater explanation of the GMRS radio service. I always see comments saying why don’t they just get their technician license. Not always practical for grandma back at the campsite waiting for the hungry hikers to return. It has a purpose. GMRS is for family oriented communications. I hope that you review the MURS radio just released by Wouxun next.
Thanks for the comments. Agreed about GMRS, definitely a place for it. I do plan to do some more videos on the other services soon.
The 8 basic GMRS channels (15-22) are in the 462 MHz range and are used for simplex and repeater output with up to 50W TPO. The repeater input channels are DUP +5 in the 467 MHz range with up to 50W TPO. Channels 1-7 are located between the 8 462 MHz channels described above and 5W ERP is allowed. Channels 8-14 are located between the 8 repeater input channels and 0.5W ERP is allowed. Also 8-14 can only be transmitted by handheld radios, not mobile or base stations.
GMRS base stations may be controlled remotely and antenna height restrictions have been removed by the 2017 rule changes. If you want to put your repeater on a 1000 ft TV tower, go ahead! There is no limit to antenna gain on 15-22 and the repeater input channels. In light of the current GMRS rules, I would expect to see shared ham and GMRS repeater sites with all radios operating into a single dual-band antenna.
In GMRS the frequencies are fixed. What you can change are your PL tones. Many repeaters on GMRS require a specific tone to use the repeater, just as Ham repeaters do. The user cannot change the frequencies, they are fixed by the FCC.
Correct but you can change what frequencies are where, if they're simplex or offset, and the PL tones
@@HamRadio2 Yes but that becomes confusing, and even illegal, with GMRS. Everything is setup by channel number based on the FCC specs. Channels 23-30 on this radio (and the BTECH-V1) reflect the channel numbers 15-22 with the proper offset (+5MHz). So it's just a matter of changing the PL tone to hit a specific GMRS repeater using those channels (23-30) in all cases. Otherwise, it's not legal to use any other channels/offset/pairs for repeaters with GMRS.
just got my gmrs license now to get a radio
I like the fact is has a superheterodyne receiver.
Great review,,, thank you so much for caring for the GMRS community !!! (WRHT667) 73
Always!
Great video Jason, thanks for checking out the KG-805G! I wanted to point out that the 8 GMRS exclusive frequencies from your list are allowed as repeater input frequencies only and they match up with channels 15-22, which can be used as repeater TX freqs. The KG-805G uses those frequencies on the repeater "RPT" channels. Also, the radio supports up to 128 channels if you use the programming software, but only comes pre programmed for the 22 standard frequencies + 8 repeaters. Sorry, we're not doing a good job of pointing this out on our web site.
Thanks! That is good info. I would like to start doing more GMRS videos, I think there is a market for it. I'll shoot you an email.
@@HamRadio2 sadly theres not very many part 95 radios.
Yep. the ability to add repeater pairs with tones into new memory slots is a big plus.
I have bought one of the gmrs radios it is cool looking
Can you program more than the the 30 channels? For instance for two repeaters that share the same freq? Can you monitor VHF? What's the FCC I'd?( part 95) thanks!
A minor correction on GMRS bandwidth:
GMRS wideband is the same 25khz as 70cm amateur radio. In either, 20khz is the authorized or 'occupied' bandwidth and then you add 5khz for allowable deviation. If GMRS only allowed 20khz including the 5khz deviation, none of my old Kenwood LMR gear would be legal on GMRS(but it is I assure you).
I was reading the chart from wikipedia, which matches the FCC Part 95 page. It doesn't say anything about 25khz. And if you're LMR great isn't Part 95, then it technically isn't legal on GMRS but many LMR great is. Just depends on the model.
Good overview. I do believe that the GMRS repeater frequencies and offsets follow a standard layout and are not just changeable on a whim - in other words, repeaters on GMRS will follow the standard input/output frequency pairs and then the tone is what is selectable/settable. I imagine, just guessing here, but I imagine that the software allows configuring some of the menu options and the tones for the channels (you can use CTCSS on simplex or repeater frequencies).
Same thing happened to me on my GMRS license - it expired and I didn't realize it. For me, though, I did get something in the mail but it went to my PO Box because that is what is on my FRN info. I don't check the PO Box very often so I missed it; the notice only came a couple of weeks prior to the expiration date. Got a new callsign and all is well...
Yes the repeater freqs follow a standard on the GMRS service.
The repeater channels are the same frequencies as channels 15 through 22 except they have a +5 MHz duplex offset. For example, when set to channel 15, the radio will rx and tx on 462.55. When set to channel RPT15 (which is called 15R or 23 on some radios) the radio will rx on the repeater output 462.55 and tx on the repeater input 467.55. 73 de N3TS/WRAT786
Correct.
New KG-UV9G Pro GMRS or there is a Lite version as well. Can’t wait for your review on this one
Retevis rt97 has s GMRS legal repeater. Comes tuned to GMRS frequencies. On Amazon for about $399. 10watts. Local Ham store can set one up for about $2000. Make an Argent Technologies Simplex for about $250. They are legal. Nodes are different prices depending if you build or pay someone. $50 to $150 I think. There are set aside frequencies for GMRS repeaters. Once you start buying all these extras, you are probably better off in the Ham world. But still doable. Nice for events, camping, emergencies, etc.
Definitely more options for Ham Radio. I don't think going GMRS is "cheaper" or should be viewed as such. It is just different.
Great info about the repeaters, I will look into those.
The GMRS Frequencies programmed in the radio are the standard 467 repeater input frequencies 1-8 you had pulled up from Radio Reference. They are in order.
Do you get a call sign with the GMRS license? What if you don't pay FCC, who knows that you paid or didn't pay?
Yes you get a callsign with GMRS.
Killer video! Been thinking about getting a GMRS license. Now that some real nice radios have come out GMRS I might just have to pull that trigger!
I like having it as an option
Just for everyone's information if the battery on the KG-805G is depleted pretty bad the red charge indicator light will flash but will soon go to solid red.
The repeater channels receive the same as Channels 15 thru 22, but transmit exactly 5 MHz higher.
Ex: 462.675 rcv / 467.675 xmit.
That's called an "offset" and is typically used for repeaters
The center simplex frequencies are low power and narrowband for both GMRS and FRS because the repeater inputs are between those frequencies. The repeater inputs are also not allowed to be use simplex for GMRS users. They are repeater inputs only with 15-22 being not only simplex but also repeater outputs.
If you go back in to the frequency list on Wikipedia those 8 non FRS frequencies at the bottom are paired with 15-22 for "repeater pairs" So the first listed repeater input frequency is paired with 15, the 2nd with 16 and so on. All of the repeaters are setup for +5 offset.
just got this. i have a very active repeater connected to the midwest gmrs network so lots of people to chat with. great investment. you can program more than 30 channels. i just put in a bunch of repeaters for my trip up north so i can chat the whole way up. need to figure out a mobile antenna or something though.
So you can program repeater pairs beyond ch 22-30? That is big plus!
I am a Amateur. My wife is not. Nor will she EVER be! We are however "preppers". Realizing the need for alternative communications we "went" GMRS.
Ordered. Thanks for the video
You do an excellent job of explaining this. I am a noob to this and I really appreciate your efforts.
The 467 mhz channels are repeater inputs with corresponding 463 mhz output channels. Standard 5 mhz split
462 is the output or RX channel, but I knew what you meant.
I'm quite surprised you didn't know that the 467xxx non shared are designated rptr inputs per the FCC.
Great video and I just purchased two of these radios. Can you tell me what earpiece and microphone will work on this radio, something that may be good while hunting... when I need to call for help dragging something out of the mountains :)
I just rec. this radio and inserted some of the freq. in my hamradio to monitor i have the FCC Call sign. I believe this is Simplex. I am unable to connect. What am I missing to connect with my ham radio? Thanks. KF0DAQ.
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This radio won't work on Ham Radio frequencies
Great content. I truly appreciate your channel.
Hello sir i own a pair of cp200 uhf and also another pair of cp200 vhf. My question is. I got my GMRS lisence and i got my callsing . I also have a pair of baofeng radios. Witch radios m i able to use with my gmrs lisence can i use any of my radios and programmed them and use them
Repeater frequencies are from 467.550 to 467.725
Great video,What will be the right squelch level on that radio? Or ideal for that radio?
It really depends on your area and what RFI might be near you
Ok k thanks 👍🏽
Looks like same battery as the kguv3D. Im sure programming cable the same as the rest of the Wouxun radios.
I suspect so
Same programming cable as other 2-pin Wouxun's (a Baofeng UV-5R cable will program it as well). I've been told it is supported by CHIRP if you select KG-816 as the model. Same battery as the KG-UVD1P, KG-UV6D and KG-UV7D. Looks like the same one as the UV3D as well but I'm not familiar with that model.
Think it's only maybe legal on 8 GMRS frequencies, since FRS must have non-removable antenna, and with no approval numbers from the FCC in Washington, it's probably not legal at all.
Correct, but some frequencies are shared with GMRS/FRS so you could use it there too. But on the FRS-only frequencies, you are correct.
@@HamRadio2 - Half of those frequencies are input frequencies for GMRS repeaters...So your likely to be causing interference by using them.
I do sometimes hear people on bubble pack radios talking on the repeater output. But it's rarely a problem The local machine is tone squelch so unless they luckily get the right PL I don't hear them. And as far as the radio being illegal just use something that is programmed correctly works and doesn't cause problems with 5,000 watts...nobody's going to come knocking on your door asking you to take the battery off the back of your handy-talkie to make sure it's part certified
I bought the MURS version and think it's pretty cool. I have already "hacked" mine so I can put any frequencies in the 136-174MHz range TX/RX. Sure it's only about 2 watts but does the job.
Well I thought I saw a spot in the software to change that, but I'll double check. Also remember that GMRS radios have a bit more latitude than the unlicensed MURS frequencies and users.
Channels 23-30: Remember those seven low-power FRS channels 8-14?
The GMRS channels 23-30 bracket these seven low-power FRS channels,
offset by a half-channel. So they 'seemingly' vary as { 7.5, 8.5 ... 13.5, 14.5 }
I went on the FCC site with my new license: KFODAQ and my Frn and can’t figure how to apply for GMRS License. I had no luck trying for a Vanity Call Sign. Happy New Year. Gerhardt
I did the same last night. Took me an hour or so to figure it out. The FCC has "improved" the ULS system. I had to re-register my info/ password, etc, etc. It takes the feds to f@@@up something that was working relatively OK.
Fcc website sucks. When looking down that long list of available licenses, look for a paragraph that the last line says, general mobile radio service, not GMRS. Its easy to miss.
I am glad that you doing this type of videos jason i hope that you will also talk about the repeaters that put out and i have my own gmrs as well de wrcs984 if you want the gmrs repeater freq i have the list and can send it to you as well @ ham radio 2.0
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Hey Jason, thanks for the info. What antenna do you suggest as a replacement for the factory one?
Get the FRN number first on the same FCC site.
Yup. And if you have a Ham Radio license, you already have an FRN.
The software for this radio is ok and works well. But If you have a hamradio license, you can download a different software suite from Wouxun's website, and get the best of both worlds out of this radio. Put in your favorite GMRS channels-repeaters. Also, your favorite Hamradio simplex-repeaters on 70cm. Go to the Wouxun site and get the software for the KG-801E-703E. This will work on both the KG-805G & KG-805M radios. Disclaimer: If you are not a licensed Ham Radio Operator, do not attempt this.
For those that are not LIcensed Hams, the ability to access ALL 128 memories of the radio means you can program many different configurations of the MURS & GMRS channels. Very useful to access many more GMRS repeaters. This radio beats the Btech GMRS-V1 in that regard. The Btech GMRS-V1 locks you into the first 30 memories to set TX channels. Channels 31-128 are RX only. The KG-805G allows all 128 memories to contain valid RX/TX channels. Filling the radio with many GMRS repeaters with different CTCSS/DCS squelch options (legally).
A few questions.
With .7/2m the local ham clubs setup and maintain the repeaters. Who sets up and maintains the GMRS repeaters?
Maybe I missed it, but how long is a GMRS license good for?
You mentioned that ARRL would have given you a notification for your ham. Is that true even if you aren't an ARRL member?
GMRS users setup and maintain GMRS repeaters. Ham Clubs can setup repeaters, yes. But individual Ham Operators can do this also. I have 5-6 repeaters of my own that aren't associated with clubs at all.
Not sure on the ARRL question.
Anybody can setup a GMRS repeater and just let others use it to be nice. They are pretty easy to setup from what I have seen.
Greatly Informative Video and License Info Jason' - Cuz ya gotta pay to Legally 'airplay'😶$📡Thank You!
Thanks!
Can someone answer this please. If I purchase a yaesu FT65r can I transmit On GMRS frequencies With just a GMRS license?
Not legally
@@HamRadio2 ok thank you. Boy it’s complicated. Unless you eat and sleep radios and frequency usability its daunting.
This radio is illegal to use like GMRS radio in Canada because you ara able to remove antenna and the power of this radio for the moment.
In the USA, removing the antenna is perfectly fine on a GMRS radio, but you can't remove antennas on FRS radios. Not sure if that is what you mean, or maybe just the laws differ from country to country
Will a standard dual band mag mount antenna work with gmrs freqs?
Generally no - but some antennas are wider-banded than others, so it depends on which one.
Nice review. Is there a good cross reference for the midland tone numbers? I have heard that they are not a sequential order.
what the power looking like on this radio. Close to 5 watts or 3 and under?
About 4 watts
@@HamRadio2 thanks for replying
GMRS IMO has the same quality as 70cm with the capability to use 50 watts repeaters. FRS is just a toy and I would not compare the 2 even though the use some of the same frequencies at lower power than GMRS.
I don't understand "same quality as 70cm" - but yes, overall I do agree with you.
Please find out why the fcc asks if you are a felon? If you can find out message me back through UA-cam thank you
Radios have long been used by drug dealers and others in the commission of a crime. They are trying to deter this use of radios.
hello my name is manny do you recommend wouxun kg-905g gmrs radio yhank you
Yes, great radio
Paul Abernathy isn't your dad is he? He uses that same theme at the beginning of his videos "Master The NEC". Just wondering, because you also look like you could be his son.
I don't know who that is
@@HamRadio2 I think that is his voice with the music too, but it kind of freaked me out to hear it. Because I think he just added his voice to the music lol. but anyway
I underststand there are no GMRS repeaters available for sale so you have to take a UHF repeater or two UHF radios and program them to use the GMRS frequencies. Did I hear this correctly?
I also heard there are groups that have successfully linked nodes over the internet. I hear you said this is illegal.
I said the Allstar system itself wasn't legal (perhaps "legal" isn't the right word) on GMRS, but they do have another type of internet linking system for GMRS, yes.
I'm pretty sure that Kenwood makes repeaters specifically for GMRS, but you can also make a repeater out of 2 Part 95 mobile radios, yes.
Can you apply for a gmrs license using a tablet instead of a PC computer?
I don't see why not
I did it this week on an iPad.
You missed the repeater channels. 467s
Not sure what you mean. I showed the entire list of channels in several screenshots.
Each channel can be programmed and coded so you can have a private channel
My call sign I WRFD 247. Am currently studying to get my Technician license though!
Awesome!
How would you rate and or compare this to the Baofeng GMRS V1. I have 2 of them. It looks like the Baofeng radios appear to be superior? Any thoughts?
I haven't tested that model - from what I know about Wouxun and Baofeng ham radios, I suspect the Wouxun has a better receiver and better audio, but....without testing them side by side, I can't say for sure.
The BaofengTech GMRS-V1 is less quality and Baofengs are known for their spurious emissions and bad filtering. Wouxuns are more of a professional quality and provide better filtering.
Baofeng and BaofengTech radios aren't the same though. BTECH radios are better built
I have both the GMRS-V1 and the KG-805G. The Wouxun is built better, and xmits more power. I do not have the equipment to check for spurious emissions. I like both radios, but the Wouxun will stand up to more abuse.
@@HamRadio2 Well not really as they share all the same parts just different firmware. It is just a customized firmware UV-82.
What are your favorite GMRS HT and Mobile radios over other make/models?
Interesting radio. Question 1: what is the A/B button for that usually switches VFO or Main/Sub band. Question 2: Are they compatible with the Midland GMRS provacy codes?
The A/B button is programmable, so you could really use it for anything. I've not tried the Midland GMRS radios, but I had some comments about them during this Premiere, so I might try to pickup one and do some testing with it.
@@HamRadio2 I have found on my KG-805M MURS radio vesion that the A/B button wasn't programmable. What it does do is quick press turns backlight on, and long press puts into scan mode(backlight stays on during scan).
Well MURS radios are more locked down due to that system being unlicensed where GMRS requires a license. I'll double check the programming though
Just purchased the KG805G and configured them to work with a set of older Midland GXT1000 radios. CTSS and DCS codes work fine between the two.
Have you tested the BTech GMRS-V1
No, I've not tried that one yet
@@HamRadio2 Maybe they can send you one out to test.
Looks like you need ferrite on your mic lead. RF interference when you tx
Yeah that is normal. I've tried ferrites, couldn't really find a solution that worked, but it is something I should revisit.
Here is EXACTLY why getting a ham license is frustrating. Ive reached out on youtube, and was given a site to find area clubs etc. That was helpful.
Emailed the club and asked to meet and possibly even have someone willing to introduce me to amateur radio....a mentor, so to speak.
So what happened? I get an email back with a link to ARRL and another to text exam schedules. That it!
No invitation to a club meeting, or possibly a meeting at a local shop, or something. These freaking ham licensed group acts like
it is a private club and you arent going to be given the “privileged information” that they hold.
Ridiculous, frustrating, and a complete turn off from even bothering to reach out.
Sadly I hear this story often from people on UA-cam. The only thing I can tell you is that they aren't all this way. I can show you at least a 1/2 dozen clubs in my area that are welcoming and helpful to new people. I wish more of them were like that.
I know exactly how you feel. Alot of hams are older and have this elite attitude. I have been into radios since I was a kid. There was a guy at work that was a ham and I told him I was into CB radio and how far I could talk on it and i wanted to look into getting my tech license. Well instead of helping or being friendly he threated to call the Fcc on me bc my CB is putting out a little more power then stock and he told me I will never be a ham in the area on his watch bc I don't respect rules. It was pretty messed up and turned me off.
krazyhippy .... well since this post I decided to move forward “on my own” and get my Tech Lic. Upgraded to General in July and then Extra in August. Once I got my call sign I decided to get on local repeaters at least once per day. This gave me the opportunity to meet other operators in the area. I started to check into a local net everyday as well. 6 months later now I can say that these elitist type are the minority by far. Overall the HAM community is very supportive and a good group of individuals from many different backgrounds. Have been involved enough that I was asked to be a net controller from time to time, as well as participate in an upcoming class for building a hotspot to he used with the Allstar Network. Dont let one or two of these chuckleheads detour you from getting your license. Its fairly easy to get your tech and then you will have access to dozens of operators that will be more than willing to assist you
Can I use those Boefeng radios legally on those frequencies?
Some you can. Depends on the model
@@HamRadio2 Which budget HT can you recommend? I currently have the UV-5R, Am I "legal" if using this for GMRS only?
Thanks
The one in this video is my current recommendation
N4RDF is WREY926 on GMRS
My new callsign is WRFK311
So is this radio transmits at .5 watts on the FRS channels then jumps up to 5 watts on the others? Or is this really a 2 watt radio?
The radio has low/high power settings.
This is not a .5 watt radio it transmits with 4 watts of power. This radio does not use the 14 FRS channels.
@@bulldogbrower6732 FRS is 1-22 now, with 2 watts on 1-7+15-22, .5 watts on 8-14.
I thought that if I bought a gmrs license only my family could use it and not my buddies. Is that right? I would love it if my buddies could use it!
I consider my buddies family.
The FCC is anti-buddy & anti-cousin. Part 95.179 defines who is considered your immediate family. I am much closer to my cousin Pete than my Father In-law, but Pete has to get his own license.
@@ChrisinOSMSthat's what I thought. Thanks!
If you have a Amateur license do you need a GMRS license to use these radios?
Yes. 2 separate sets of frequencies.
@@HamRadio2 Many Thanks!
Well, yes and no. The radio does include the FRS channels as well. So, you could use the FRS channels on low power since no license is required on the FRS channels.
@@oldpreach technically that is illegal. FRS users cannot use radios with removable antennas. This radio would require a GMRS license. I have both my GMRS and Ham licenses.
@@misteraon Good point. I forgot the no removable antennas.
WRBL294 and KD4HCT
I don't think the FCC wants you to reprogram it. Not made for Hams to work. Made for normal people that don't know how to work on them. There is a place where you can find a list of repeaters and if they are free or if you need to pay.
Likely correct, but it still does come with programming software, so that you can make some limited changes to the channels.
they have them in stock at this time
If I get an GMRS license can I use my Ham Radio license radios on those frequencies? When you use GMRS you have to be saying your call sign same as ham radio? How long the license last before expire?
No amateur radios are allowed on GMRS..if you adhere to FCC rules
Depends on the radio, really. Typically no though, radios need to Part 95 type accepted to be legal on GMRS
The license is now good for 10 years.
@@HamRadio2 why i like my baofengs ...GMRS? we got you! hahahh
@@HamRadio2 I have to check tomorrow but our Anytone 878 is not part 95 too?
I thought they had finally stopped asking that archaic and stupid, "Are you a convicted felon?", question. I never saw what that had to do with anything, other than creating another means for someone's past mistakes to haunt them forever.
I don't disagree.
They still ask it. I just did my application 2 nights ago and got my call sign.
So a convicted felon cannot get a ham or GMRS license? That's ridiculous, I have a family member I want to get into ham and if not ham at least GMRS...
I'm a ham but don't remember that question, been licensed for a number of years. I want GMRS for wife and daughter who have no interest in getting tech license.
Amazon have it at 89
I think the link I provided was about that, but Amazon is great too
Is there a radio made in America?
How about anywhere other than China?
Not Handhelds. FlexRadio and Elecraft make HF radios in the USA. Lots of handhelds are made in Japan also
@@HamRadio2
What about Midland? They have been around since 1958, I think. Their site says they are headquartered here in the midwest but, I assume the units are now outsourced to somewhere....China maybe? They don't come right out and say "Made in America".
I'm just looking into this whole idea of radios. I'd like to stay away from China, if possible.
I'll look into those you mentioned.
Thanks!
There are 23 menu options in this radio. Menu #17 allows for one of three things to be assigned to the programmable PF1 function key. One of those things is the ability to receive the FM broadcast band which is the default setting. I have discovered that you can set this radio to whichever GMRS frequency you prefer to monitor, then enable FM broadcast reception. While you are listening to FM broadcast stations the radio continues to monitor your chosen GMRS channel and when activity occurs the GMRS will automatically override the FM broadcast station. After activity ceases it reverts back to FM broadcast automatically. I have also discovered that while listening to FM stations you can tap the A/B button and the radio will search forward for new stations. The green RECEIVE LED flickers rapidly while it's searching for new stations.
Is the $70 a one time charge?
It's good for 10 years, I think. It used to be 5 years but they changed it
@@HamRadio2
Right now they are considering lowering it from $70 to $50 for ten years.
@@radiohobbyist13 Interesting. And they are proposing to charge Ham Radio operatores $50 for their license. Seems backwards...
The repeater channels are the same as 15-22
Correct
@@HamRadio2 yes its just a change so people can see it I guess because I am a gmrs license opperator and it's all the same just set for repeater
Why not just get a $25 dollar Baofeng that can do that and more? Why pay almost triple thr price for simplicity?
Technically most "25 dollar" Baofengs are not legal for GMRS use, they are part 97 compliant and require programming that is A) against FCC rules for GMRS and B) beyond non-technical persons knowledge base. GMRS is supposed to be plug and play. GMRS requires FCC Part 95 certified radios that limit programming and other restrictions. Only 2 models of "Baofengs" meet these FCC type acceptance rules. GMRS-V1 and 50x1 mobile. Other brands are similar with most models not part 95 legal, and only one model compliant.
You get what you pay for I have both radios
@@michaelroot6064 Which one does better on gmrs..I just purchased 2 of the wouxan kg-805s'
@@tinachavez8712 wouxin imo comes in clear just overall better
i dont bother programming 8-14
Link is screwy. Says discontinued but says replaced by the same model number with a higher price. It sure is a lot nicer quality than the cheap Midland GMRS HT radios I have. $80 is a lot of money to pay for a single GMRS radio though.
Thanks for pointing that out. Link is fixed. It depends on what kind of radio you are wanting - GMRS radios are usually better than an FRS radio and if you don't have a Ham license, this might be the best option.
A GMRS license covers all your family members down to aunts/uncles and in-laws. I think it is worth the money for a 10yr license to be able to communicate.
If you think this radio is cool, you will lose your SHTF over the new KG-UV9G (Google it), coming in a couple months. :)
Already looked at it. Looks good, but I will want to test one first
Ham Radio 2.0 Absolutely Jason. I’ll contact you or you can shoot me an email on the BetterSafeRadio Contact page and we’ll hook it up! :)
what is GMRS? well it is a radio for lazy people who are to lazy to study the ham license. :)
Haha... I have both!
@@HamRadio2 yea around here lots of hams got there gmrs also i just can`t see paying that much money for such a limited radio. and have you seen the price of the GMRS repetors if it was a HF restricted high speed frequency maaaaby.good googly goo!! 73s
@@butterbean4195 You have no idea what you are missing, by having other options to communicate it is more relaxed on GMRS without all the crotchety hams complaining all the time.
@@williamlowry9585 hello bill, i listen to it daily on my scanner. but not much in my area.the people i know that use it are hams.
I'm going to be using this radio for communications while snowboarding this year. Might be doing a bit more backcountry compared to resort riding due to covid19. This radio does have it's place. I was leaning towards a couple of these with a UVD9P for myself but it might not have the durability I require. Ill be getting my GMRS license when the season starts and may soon move up to my ham license to setup a (HT) repeater to leave in my car. Thanks for video! It helped in my decision quite a bit.