Ham Radio vs GMRS | GMRS Ham Radio Combo - Comparison
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- Ham Radio vs GMRS - Ham Radio compared to GMRS frequencies and modes - which ones is better? Today let's talk about both of them, how they compare, and the features of each.
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For off-roading with large groups of people, mostly with no interest in getting a ham license, we went with GMRS because of the FRS compatibility and simplicity.
GMRS is a solid choice for groups like that, as long as they get properly licensed.
@@HamRadio2 I know from offroading locally that tons of jeeps use ham freqs unlicensed all day long.
@@HamRadio2 It’s March 2021 and the GMRS MURS radios are so hot you can’t find them. Their sales are sky rocketing. Now Garmin has entered the race. They’ve always sold the GMRS Rino, but now they’ve entered the MURS market with a GPS map device combined with a MURS two way radio. The device is aimed squarely at the ATV/Jeep off roading market. The radio comes with a external antenna for mounting on the roof of the vehicle. Garmin calls it the Tread Powersport Navigator. Garmin has a solution for those rugged radio fans and of course those who use hunting leases.
As a ham, I've never had a single use for the VHF or UHF ham frequencies. If I'm doing handheld comms, being able to hand a radio to anyone in my group is priority #1. Even if you unlock a ham radio for FRS/GMRS, the UIs are so clunky and confusing that I wouldn't want to hand it so someone for fear that we might have to change channels while apart, and I'm not there to screw around with the menu settings. GMRS is the only thing that makes sense given that priority. My Yaesus have been collecting dust for years.
@@HamRadio2 I'm still trying to understand why it is so important to have a license! It's communications! I'm glad there is no license required for a cell phone lol; the only reason I would want any of those radios is for safety. if I go out where there is no cell service, I would want a way to call for help if I break down or get bit by a snake etc.! I keep thinking on it and I still can't think of anything that would make a license necessary.
Oklahoma has been trying to do away with licensing for electrical, and I actually understand why you should need a license to work with electricity, especially for the public! having a license to do electric work I understand. Having a permit to carry a gun I understand. Having to be 21 to buy alcohol I understand. Having to have a license to use a mobile or handheld radio I don't understand!
They should be doing away with licensing for using any kind of radio and restrict bands used by the military. Having communications for safety in groups off grid, that can reach long distances, should be a right, not something you have to have a license for, and the courses they have for HAM radio should be encouraged and not required with a couple of exceptions for large antennas one might set up at their home and could interfere with with T.V.s and regular radio reception, but mobile and handheld radios should be a right, not a privilege!
Actually, I guess you can use any of them for an emergency situation involving life or personal property, but not sure why they don't lift some of the restrictions for people to use them in certain circumstances of group activities without a license. It's like they are trying to lay claim to something that doesn't belong to anyone. It's like a group of people talking on a certain channel and someone comes along with another group and wants to talk on the some channel; no one owns it but common curtesy prevails, so who is the person that decided that they were going to take control of it and tell people that you have to get a license to use these bands on these frequencies? It's not gun control! I don't get it! You can listen all you want, but you can't talk, and if there is an emergency, you can broadcast on these, otherwise, restricted airwaves.
Using them for communications for safety off grid is great. That's the only reason I would want to use them. The rest of it sounds like a big pile of horse manure!
I am a General and a GMRS operator/repeater owner. My primary interest in two-way radio is for emergency communications. Having a good radio service that all of my non-ham family can use is a big benefit. I can be the human link between Ham and GMRS. I am encouraging my circle of family and friends to get their ham license as well as GMRS license, but many people are scared of the test.
I can understand how some people might be too busy to study up, but it does seem like the majority are scared of the test like you said. I personally think most people are afraid of failing at something... in general...doesn't have to be radio related.
@@USAFJUNKIE Or they just don't WANT to LEARN something new!
After watching this video, I’ll be getting my GMRS license. Like you said “ why limit yourself”. Especially in a emergency situation. it’s good to have options.
Great job explaining the differences, I'm a 27MHz (CB Radio) operator from the late 70's in Australia, getting back into the radio world. I think its also worth mentioning that GMRS has 8 Repeater Channels along with the 22 channels (you mentioned at the end of your video). I'm sure you'll add this and the differences into the next more detailed GMRS video. Its also worth mentioning that most lower-end GMRS Radios, especially those with fixed antennas, do not support transmitting on Repeaters.
More GMRS!
I'm loving my Wouxun 805g & KG1000g! The KG1K is 50w.
I really think we should all be good with anyone in any part of radio.
Whoever recommended those radios to you was a genius!
@@TheNotaRubicon misunderstood genius is still a genius
Like you, I believe in a wide range of communication options: CB, GMRS, MURS and Amateur. I have radios in all services.
Same here...should have 10/11m, 6m, 2m and 70cm. I think it's important due to terrain mostly.
NotRubicon. MUUURRRRSS!!
@@Sam-fb1nq I can never not hear that whenever I think of MURS now
I have a gmrs license and several radios including a 20 watt mobile unit. Gmrs works very well for me. I got my CB license back in 1975 but I like gmrs better due to the much higher power I can legally use.
great content as usual...simply I got my ham radio license outside last year in a mask when first able...but as for my wife and kids not right now so doing GMRS on the family farm is perfect for them
Biggest thing for GMRS for me is being able to communicate with my family with fairly simple radios. Good video!
Yep, agreed
I agree as well
Here Here..!
yes and staying away from hammer heads
If all you need is to talk with a group of known people traveling together (with varied skills (and passions) on comms) - GMRS sounds like a winner! However, if that same group of adventures get lost or stuck - HAM sounds like the best way to reach people outside your small group. Perhaps the ideal setup for a group might be to use GMRS, with one person having both HAM and GMRS capability... Your thoughts?
Ham offers much more than GMRS does but your idea isn't bad. As I said in the video, I suggest getting both
That’s what I’m thinking of doing
Get GMRS while I study HAM.
Plus GMRS my family can use it and we all live less than 50 miles around
Probably better than my cell service plus if cells are down my family can stay connected.
GMRS radios rely on line of sight and handhelds will not reach more than a few miles at most. Higher powered mobiles in cars with decent antennas will reach farther. To reach full potential, "base stations", mostly that ends up being full powered mobiles set up inside, with towers and antennas must be set up. This setup can reach 10-20, even 30-40 miles and sometimes much more, all dependent on terrain. The optimal setup is a repeater, positioned someplace extremely high, enabling signals to be repeated over a wide area. With two home base stations and a repeater that is positioned well, the range doubles or triples. Hope this helps. Dave, WRDV421, KB9OKX
Your immediate family can use your license, not every aunt / uncle / cousin within a 200 mile radius. But the cost is going to go down to 35 too, so theres no reason for the others in your group to not get a license.
I live in western Canada, we do have GMRS but is limited to about 2 to 5 watts using small non removable antenna walkie talkies which does limit its usefulness over here I would hope my country allows more choices of higher power mobile, base, handheld units with external antenna and repeater capabilities in the future.
This is why people in Canada buy UV5Rs like mad. The 2 watt limit is a slap in the face.
This is the video I want to send to family regarding why they at least need to get their Tech. license. I don't want them to limit themselves to just GMRS, MURS, or CB. As you mentioned, the more options, the better. But, at the same time, I cannot force them to do so. So, I very likely I'll get the GMRS license so they can utilize CB as backup.
Good helpful information. Studying for my Ham Technicians license.
13:55: “I think that you should get...EVERYTHING”...lol...well said; and another job well done! Thx again, Sir...WRBR432🎙👋🏿
we have a GMRS repeater in my area, that covers literally 1/4 of the state of PA. then when we have them thermal ducting events. nothern Virgina to Southern NY gets in. i'm 40 miles from the repeater, and the HT on low pwr, if i'm on a hill works great
This channel is golden Jason! Insightful and always filled with great information. I still have a lot of catching up to do, both in watching your videos and filling in a lot of HAM data that I lack, even with my license. I'll be tuning in when I can, both online and on air. Interesting that this topic came up as I actually do a lot of listening to 462.55, it seems to be a busy channel. As much as I would have liked to focus more in depth than I have since my recent test, I've had to direct a lot of focus on computer and phone issues. Ironically, during my HAM exam, my computer screen started to flicker, never did it before, it was actually a bit embarrassing, within a couple days it was dead; glad I got that test over with when I did! My phone is old and slowly dying so I need a new one. Together they've forced me to spread my attention out to many areas, but I can tackle them all and be in a better position than ever soon. Nice to be able to show up to your channel and get some good data. I'll look into a GMRS license once the fee drops in half, it'll seem like it's on sale! Ha! Have a good night!
Thanks
I have both GMRS and Ham in my truck. GMRS is good for people who don’t have Ham license...... plus good for camping/ overlanding coms. Ham is better for most, but my family likes to talk GMRS though. Yaesu FTM 400 and a Midland MXT275. K4VDB/WRKF456 😎.
I was getting ready to renew my GMRS license. I didn't realize the cost was dropping by 50%. It looks like that will maybe be in March, so I am going to wait to renew. KI7SAR
I think you could lose your call sign if your membership runs out.
I’m a licensed GMRS operator. I have a little GMRS version of the Baofeng U5R with a 5 watt output. And before somebody flies off the handle about it being only a Ham Radio and is not legal to be used upon the GMRS channels and frequencies, here is a fact, My UV5R radio is the newest updated Baofeng U5R GMRS version of the Baofeng U5R complete with the factory installed red colored GMRS sticker (not the Blue Ham Radio sticker), inside the battery compartment of which “Randy” at “NotaRubicon” has posted a video about and is not the Ham Radio version of which has the factory Blue colored sticker. I also have it programmed with nothing but the GMRS Channels and frequencies as well as the GMRS Repeater Channel Frequencies. But because I live in an outlying rural area I can’t seem to hear anything upon those channels or even on the GMRS repeater frequencies so it has become nothing more than a useless brick to me as a GMRS radio. Heck, in my rural area I can’t even get any of the NOAA channels on it except for a tiny bit of garbled unintelligible sounds on only one of those NOAA frequencies. But however, to be able to just make use of it as just a listening device and offset the forty dollar cost of it, I have programmed our local State Highway Patrol frequency into it on the lower “B” section. But again before somebody flies of the handle, and because I know that it is totally illegal to talk on the Highway Patrol frequency or any other emergency service frequency, I keep the keys locked out, and keep the radio only on the upper “A” section containing the GMRS channels and only unlock the keys with it in the “A” section if I ever had a need or a desire to talk on the GMRS channels and frequencies or their GMRS repeater frequencies. I don’t even flip it over to the lower “B” section. I just listen to it on the “B” section. ut aain. Jason Thanks for another great video. As usual, I really enjoy all your Ham Radio 2.0 videos, they are all very informative and a joy to view.
P.S. I'm studying for my Ham Radio Technicians Class Liense and even your videos upon that subject have been a great informative help as well.
I have a CB Radio in my truck, just applied for GMRS License, still studying for Technicians License. I'm going for it, taking a little time.
Great plan
@@HamRadio2 thanks. By the way, I noticed that there aren't many women who dabble in Radio. Why is that? I got into Radio when I worked in construction as a flagger and had to use 2 ways that was back in the 90s then got into truck driving had my Cobra 29LTD loved that, have that in my pickup. I believe in being prepared. How many women are Radio enthusiasts? Just wondering thanks
i'm studying for my ham radio tkt. my goal was backup coms with my wife. once i started i realized that she could never pass the test so i went GMRS. problem solved
Back when I passed tech, I tried to get my wifey to do it, she wanted nothing to do with it. GMRS was an easy way to get family radio comms going on.
Gmrs is a great place to get started.. equipment is less expensive.. the license is less expensive and easy to get.. along with the fact that it covers your whole family.. so if you were getting radios to talk to members of the family but a lot more range than FRS..GMRS is a great option..
The main reason why some people choose GMRS over Ham is because most of the people they will want to communicate with (including family) have no interest in studying for a Ham licence.
One $35 GMRS licence covers multiple people without the need for each individual to study for the test. And you can use repeaters to greatly extend your range beyond FRS.
GMRS gives you the most overall bang for your buck. Obviously you will receive more information from Ham, but you can do that without a Ham licence
I have both, great idea... oh, had a CB license back in the old days too!
CB license? I'm guessing that was back in the 23 channel era?
I’m with you. Get em all.
I’m a licensed ham, but love all ways of comm.
Yes, I have my CB’s still when I travel.
Thanks.
Great info. Thanks. Question...you say FCC assigns you a call sign for the GMRS license. Do you announce your call sign in the same manner as when operating with a Ham license? This could be awkward if the main use is, say, family outings.
Yes, you are supposed to.
@@HamRadio2 okay, thanks. Using a shared call sign will take some getting used to.
I'm new to all this radio stuff.
So what is the best hand hekd long range radio? GMRS or HAM, and what is a repeater, and does it help with long ranges?
What's the max range in a hand held radio, and what's the best watts to have?
Thank you!
Range depends on line of sight from you to the other station you want to talk to. You can use a 5w handheld to talk to satellites and the ISS, which is 227 miles above the earth, but this is only possible when the ISS is overhead and you have clear line of sight. Talking ground station to ground station, you have many more obstacles in your path, so it is impossible to say the exact range of a radio without knowing what is between you and the other station. It would be anywhere from several feet to several miles.
@@HamRadio2 ,
Will you do a video on ISS for newbies such as myself?
Thanks again for your reply. 👍🏻
@@04DynaGlyde I'll look into that
For the US/Imperials … Learn your length in meters.
- I’m 181 cm tall or 1.81 meters tall - it’s the same thing.
Meaning, 10 millimeters is equal 1 centimeter which is equal to 0.1 meters.
I.e., the metric system is either divided by 10 or multiplied by 10.
Just got my Ham tech. Lic, hey what the heck might as well get the GMRS to, I think I'll pickup CB radio too.
Almost October and stillllll waiting on the GMRS license fee change.
I'm guessing we won't see anything on this until next year
Exactly the advice I've been looking for. Thanks from New Caney Texas.
Great explanation of the differences.
On my ham radio l can monitor Gmrs channels.if I have my gmrs license can I know transmit on gmrs channel on my ham radio?
Yes. If your VFO is stable there.
I'm going to let my Extra expire and get a Cobra 2000 and just be a CB operator.
In some hobbies, being able to call yourself an "operator" is quite the thing ..
Back in the mid/late 90s I ran an RCI 2950, into a 90w Texas star "modulator", which drove an Ameritron AL-811H. Would hit between 1000-1200w pep. Neighbors hated me, can't blame them. The skip I did was amazing though. Eventually I received a letter from a certain federal agency.
That's the radio I talked on when I was on the CB.
Good luck CB is a mess.
@@KC-su9nb For the record, I was joking. I'm not a fan of CB. Bye Bye Bye, reading the mail, ect. LOL!
I’m woefully uninformed on this.
I bought some 20 mile frs to tell my kids when to come home for supper.
It won’t work more than .68 miles.
Then bought 40 mile GMRS and still could not talk to my kids within 1 mile.
I took them all back. Should I consider a cell phone?
Your location is likely to blame. Radios that are rated in distance/miles are falsely advertised.
Watch this video - ua-cam.com/video/djCoidPlAP8/v-deo.html
@@HamRadio2 so what would work on the east coast urban environment? I'd like something that can go at least two miles in my neighborhood to call my kids in. The midland 20 mile seemed perfect. They didn't get past 2/3 mile. Then I went with a midland GMRS and tried a High channel....no further. is there aythign small that would work?
In a SHTF world I’m using all with or without a license!!
Yep, agreed. I hope you have practiced enough between now and then to be able to program and use the radio in an emergency, though.
Sorry this is a little off base, but I like to get my scanner and driver around and see who's txing on frs, gmrs, and Murs it can be fun listening to Walmart and other places
#ThNHR
#TeamReplay for the win!
Glad to see more GMRS content, keep it up.
U Da man! U cover all the bases. Thanks
Thanks!
Thank you.
Finally! Someone that acknowledges the usefulness of each platform/band.
So, am I to understand that the USA amateur license is good for 10 years at a cost of $35 ?? I'm about to write the Canadian basic exam,. Which costs the paper the test is printed on and the certificate is free for your lifetime.
I'm looking forward to your upcoming videos on the other platforms.
Traditionally the cost of a 10-year Ham Radio license has been free. But the FCC, our gov't agency in charge of those licenses, is changing that to a $35 fee for the 10-year license. They've not yet announced a date when those changes will take place.
@@HamRadio2 interesting. I'm familiar with the FCC. I was into CB from the mid 70s until mid 90s. The last few years i had been doing more freebanding. That's sort of how i got around to amateur radio. The USA GMRS laws and regulations are very different from Canada. I'd like to see a video explaining the difference. I also may be able to help with some of the research as I've already done quite a bit. Am I to understand that there is no test for GMRS?
@@HamRadio2 Thanks to your 3-part study course, I am scheduled to take my Tech exam on March 16. Not that $35 would break me, but I do hope I make it in before the extortion takes effect.
@@SocialistDistancing You are correct, Sir! There is no testing involved for GMRS Licensing here in the U.S...WRBR432🎙👋🏿
WREY-907 - GMRS was my choice for our family travel group. Road trips and camp outs
Is there a good ham radio for your vehicle that can also receive and Tx on gmrs/frs?
Not legally, no. But lots of radios can be MARS-modded so that they are full-open TX
and good news, the fee dropped from $70 to $35. figure you save 30 cents per month and it is paid for the next 10 years when renewing ( as long as the fee doesn't change). I would have to pay twice as much because i am a ham operator too but still, 60 cents per month to put away is not that much. my GMRS call is WRTK352 by the way. Thanks for the video Jason. As always, it is Awesome.
WRBS432 - Our elk hunting community has been using Garmin Rinos with their mapping capability for a long time. It was not until i became a HAM that the importance of which channel we use was realized. Now with Midland Mobile radios in the mix, my own being the 40 Watt model, GMRS has taken on an even bigger role for us. At this time my local Josephine County Oregon GMRS nets are better attended than the 2M Ham nets even thought the 2M repeater system covers a huge territory. My next antenna build is a GMRS for my home. As part of some 30 radios I own GMRS accounts for at least 6 of them.
nicely put. there is also MURS vhf 5 ch radios and free to use like CB. and we now have FM legal on CB. FRS started with 14 ch from radio shack ! still have working radios. also there is the forgotten 49 Mhz FM radio shack walkie talkies also same frequency as fisher price kids radios. have them as well. me and my girlfriend used them at hamfest in NY . got funny looks using kids radios. no one knew 49 Mhz ! LOL . also we have now world wide PTT over 4G/5G radios. just get sim card. uses data over cell towers. and now data on GMRS . radios now with bluetooth can link to smart phone and send SMS text over GMRS. I paid $70 for GMRS and about 2 months $35. 73's
I have looked this up and these are the modes you can use on GMRS. right from title 47 part 95 rules. A3E is AM telephone F3E is FM telephone G3E is PM telephone. and there are many more. just wanted to put out that you are not stuck with FM by law on GMRS. Now the first part shows that FM or PM must be included in a transmitter but others are allowed. Here they follow copied right from the rules:
§ 95.1771 GMRS emission types.
Each GMRS transmitter type must be designed to satisfy the emission capability rules in this section. Operation of GMRS stations must also be in compliance with these rules.
(a) Each GMRS transmitter type must have the capability to transmit F3E or G3E emissions.
(b) Only emission types A1D, F1D, G1D, H1D, J1D, R1D, A3E, F3E, G3E, H3E, J3E, R3E, F2D, and G2D are authorized for use in the GMRS. Equipment for which certification is sought under this subpart may have capabilities to transmit other emission types intended for use in other services, provided that these emission types can be deactivated when the equipment is used in the GMRS.
No radios exist for those modes in GMRS at this time
Thank you 🙏
Jason, what is a good choice to purchase for a ham radio in terms of features and reliability?
You got me checking and thinking so I checked into MURS and programmed them into my radios on low power to make it quasi legal on my Chinese radios and it works great! As others have said it gives me and my family options for emergency backups, don't want to sound like a prepper but the day will probably come. Have my amateur ticket but like my options...
I understand the higher you go the shorter the wave which you can relate when people say shortwave radio. I think one spin on this
to help people remember is Higher = More and Lower = Less. So something like this could be a key to remembering the answer on a test when talking about wavelengths and frequency L=L. Just my .2ct, have my GMRS license now just need a radio debating HT or Mobile for the car which I can use as a base in the house, Or what usually happens I'll start out with one then say YEAH I need the other and wind up with both
Nice video picked up a few things!
Gmrs has taken over ❤
Literally what I did. Dipped my toe in GMRS.... then got my tech. Probably going for General next.
What would you recommend right now… I’m just searching this topic cause of the possibility of a SHTF soon… and I want to get going and try to get a set up going
GMRS is easier to get started with but Ham gives you more options. Like I said in the video, I honestly recommend both.
We live in a very mountainous, sparsely populated, area of Vermont where no cell signal exists. We rely on radios for safety reasons when recreating with our kids on the mountain and in the forest. While we generally are simplex, there are times we would like to use the big beautiful repeater at the summit of the tallest mountain. My kids cannot pass the test and the repeater is ham, not gmrs. Is there any exception for kids? Is there any exception for actual operational needs? The repeater is idle 98 percent of the time and on Sunday nights guys talk about the weather for an hour. It seems like such a wasted resource. Assuming there is no exception, how do I get a gmrs repeater on that summit?
Good point of view and Great recommendation¡
Thats funny about maybe getting your GMRS before HAM for intro into HT's. Its the other way round for me. I have my Tech (studying for General) and now thinking about GMRS license and radio options. But yeah, I like the frequency options for everything especially family members without a HAM license. Better yet its the same cost as the Amateur.
Had a ham license a good while ago, and might renew some time in the future. Running a SxS in larger groups, ham licenses are impractical because not enough people are interested in putting in the work to get licensed. But, GMRS is quick and easy, no bands to learn, just which channel the group is on and go from there. But, we live and play in very mountainous country, with very few GMRS repeaters, and few useful for where we ride. There are, however, a good number of amateur repeaters around, so that may motivate me to renew my amateur license.
Yes, it is best to keep your options wide open. not to mention legal use of encryption on licensed private business frequencies and MURS, as far as I know.
Are you saying that encrypted and coded messages are allowed on GMRS? I know from studying for my tech that they are prohibited on HAM.
@@jeffbecker8716 I doubt it. MURS and licensed business frequencies is where it is allowed.
I have been a Ham radio operator for 42 years. Its not hard to get your license. GMRS is great for many people though.
So if I wanted to monitor GMRS repeater output frequencies to get an idea of the activity in my area what frequencies do I listen to? I get what the standard outsets for ham repeater are, but it isn't clear to me what GMRS is. Are the frequencies listed in paragraph a the repeater output frequencies? Repeater inputs are paragraph c?
Repeaters can be set multiple ways so it depends on your area. Check out the video I just posted about the Wouxun KG-1000g, it has some channels with preprogrammed repeater settings
@@HamRadio2 AS GMRS is channelized I would expect standardized offset and input/output frequency pairs. Only differences would be tone access.
Good info, thanks. I think I'll start games.
Has anyone noticed, as of August 27, 2020 at least, that GMRS 50 watt channels used on a base station are limited to 15 watts?
That depends on the base station you are using. That's not true for all of them
@@HamRadio2 It is confusing to understand the difference of fixed verses base station in common usage.
Should be a frequency that gmrs and ham can talk to each other like 460
Why is that? Ham radio is no different than any other radio band. People seem to think an amateur radio license should give you some special privileges to be able to get on any radio band and talk with their "special" amateur license but in reality, it does not.
@@williamlowry9585 I am thinking of more Disaster ish search and rescue/ tornados damage/flash floods. That way fire units can find someone while cell towers are down and they cant call 911
@@silverlg21 a disaster situation is a rare event when that would be ok. Emergency calls to save lives have priority over the agreed upon band plan. However, I like the idea of crossing the line in a drill just to get everybody on the same page. It might get more people into amature radio and open ham radio users to the usefulness of GMRS.
Get a shortwave radio too!
You can only listen to others, but there are many interesting stations all over the world that still transmit, and you don't need a license! You just need the receiver and a very long wire up a tree or a pole. I've heard of guys finding SW radios at garage sales. My Retekess V115 cost $20.
I have both Ham and GMRS. Biggest advantage to GMRS is if you have family that is not interested or tech savvy enough to get there ham license, the one license covers the entire family. Just hand them a simple channelized radio and you are good to go.
I’m studying for the technician license. Should I go ahead and get an Ailunce HD1 DMR anyway?
Sure, you can program it up and listen to talkgroups to see what the activity is like
@@HamRadio2 ✊right arm
Me too. Taking my technician test on February 17 2021
I would love a GMRS vs MURS video. I am trying to decide which one to invest in as my next radio service.
Muy bueno,😷🙋♂️ from tucuman Argentina
I got my GMRS and I am studying to get a technician license . Thanks to this channel . I’m going to get a cb radio also , what is the marine radio you mentioned?
This one - hr2.li/1ndk6
Jeezus !! Who's gonna learn all this endless lust of frequencies??? I've used my radios on my working fishing boats and CB radio and GMRs ( walkiTalkies) and my SSI and Uhf Vhf radios out on the decks of our boats and never screwed with all this liscence bull or ever approached by an FCC official. Also my com gear in my planes. But I'm from the bush of Alaska and was a bush pilot for 40 years n never finished my flight training for a liscence cause I'd been flying over 20 years already n said to hell with it. Haha Never once been asked for my certifications. I don't fly any more cause I'm knocking on 80 years old! Don't check my fences or scout for strays on a working horse anymore either. I just sit in the shade with a cold one and do it with a big drone FPV and just buy them and use them. No certs who cares?? Never leave my ranch with them.
I know all the frequencies. Not only for Ham Radio but also for CB, FRS, GMRS, Marine, business band, many others. I've always found frequencies fascinating. Once you start using two more often, you'll pick-up on them quickly without realizing it.
So now you're bringing up a serious question. Do you really need both licenses? If you know the rules for that band and have you ham, do you need the GMRS?
(Also just picked up a GMRS with fixed antenna and I'm not happy.)
i like your videos man! very explanatory i will like a video on the icom ic-V82! vhf transceiver and is it no license required ❤👍🏻
Thanks
I'm looking at a Baofeng X5 Plus 20 watt. The 20 watts is what draws me to this unit. Costs $44.64 Is the 20 watts significant on how far and clear your signal is.
They also have a model UV-9R ERA. Also 20 watts. Was going to get the UV5R 8 watt. But we go into heavily wooded areas with rocks and bolders. Need to transmit and rev. clearly about 2 to 5 miles and up to 10-20 miles. Can't afford over $65.00 per radio and need at least 2 of the good ones. Then two 8 watt for friends. What to buy? HELP.!! mY FRIEND HAS A WOUXUN 5W-35W AND IT WAS A GOOD RADIO WITH GREAT PERFORMANCE. bUT AGAIN $$ GETS IN MY WAY. Need your knowledge to get this. Thanks, Rob Goerlitz
Great video! I'm guessing that it's all driven by $$$, to force Hams to buy a dedicated GMRS radio to talk to family members on GMRS radios from our Ham gear, LOL. GMRS fee comes down; but Ham license fees going up.
Very good information. I purchased the Rugged Radio RDM-DB for my UTV and finally have it installed. Some things I don't understand and can't seem to find much info on is what should I use or what am I legal to use with just a GMRS license (so far)? I see this radio has VHF Analog, VHF Digital, UHF Analog, and UHF Digital. Can anyone tell me the differences? Maybe you should do a segment on the differences, or point me in the right direction.
The RDM-DB is a dual band radio for licensed business band frequencies (part 90.) It will operate analog frequency modulation (FM) or digital mobile radio (DMR). It would be suitable if say for instance a group you are a member of has obtained a business band license. The radio may tune to GMRS frequencies, but is not part 95 (GMRS) approved so it is not actually legal to use on GMRS.
Gmrs isn't experimental. It's like trying to compare car driving vs demolition derby.(demolition derby is a blast, it's lots of fun, much looser, and can be costly). To have any real fun on ham you gotta get general class at minimum (which is pretty easy with all the free resources out there)
Not sure when they are suppose to reduce the price on GMRS but i just applied for mine and it was $70
What license do you need for Marine VHF?
None
I've have my ham radio license since 1971. Lately my girlfriend is kinda wanted to get her license, she took the test once and just issed but she wasn't really interested in it after that, but lately she seen my HT and was interested in that, so I got us some FRS ht's. She thinks that's cool, so I'm going to get the GMRS license as soon as the price drops to $35. And hopefully I can get her more interested in ham radio from it so she can get her ham license.
Remember to do the review on the Wouxun KG-1000 mobile /base station. Bad azz radio but still hard to get. Have a great day!
GMRS = EASY communications with non-communications people. Simplex is easy and range is decent. It is accessible to anyone.
HAM = Far more complex and therefore HAMs are dedicated hobbyists. There is ZERO chance I will convince my wife, kids, and friends to go HAM.
Do Ham for YOU. Not for anyone else. Things of high or higher quality are always more challenging and more rewarding, imo.
@@HamRadio2 I am soooooo drawn to the challenges that HAM offers. I am an electrical, mechanical, and software engineer and HAM is quite an amazing playground that can satisfy my huge appetite for experimentation and technology.
My wife, on the other hand, just wants to know what channel number we are on and press the PTT, lol.
Do they have a hand held that does cb gmrs and ham? If not why not? If there is and you have both license can you use the same device to talk on all three?
Also the BAOFENG BF-F8HP says it can do from 400 to 520 not just 460s. What's up with that? Also says it can do 8watts not just 2 watts like you were saying. Srry just a confused noob. Plz help thx
No. Different services have different requirements for the radios. I think it's kinda dumb but that's how it is
@@HamRadio2 thanks and also did you see my question about the BAOFENG
@@ntme9 different radios do different power output. Yes, some of them can do full range transmit like that
@@HamRadio2 So, with that handheld you could hypothetically talk to someone on ham frequencies?
Awesome video. Very helpful. Hoping to get a little clarification on something I've not been able to get clear info on; just got my GMRS license (WRNB240) as part of my comms plan. My daughter and her family, and my parents-in-law both live less than a mile from me. Since they're not HAM licensed, I decided to go with GMRS for emergency comms with them. I heard (read?) somewhere that on GMRS, I'm supposed to say my callsign every 15 minutes and at the end of the conversation. I'm guessing that if two of my family members are talking on GMRS, one of them (both?) needs to fill that requirement. Correct? I want to be sure everyone knows how to behave on the air when I start handing out GMRS radios.
get hands on experience with the GMRS radio talking on repeaters or directly with someone. HAM radio goes beyond talking to people on repeaters but without a HAM license can not transmit legally on HAM. This practical experience with GMRS of programming frequencies into your radio and understanding how to talk properly on the airwave before becoming a licensed HAM. You will understand the study material for the Technician test if you have practical experience with GMRS. Lastly, if you want to do DMR radio you need to have a HAM license to get a valid DigitalID to be able to use DMR
Thanks for this video. I have been debating getting a GMRS license. I'm an Amateur Extra, but nobody in my family has a license. I was a CBer from 1993-2013 and I still have a couple. I've used to have FRS radios. With Android phones getting hacked now, I'm leaning toward getting the GMRS license after the price goes down. 73 KE0DC
Jason, I have a pretty straight-forward question. You mentioned in this video, that it's not legal use a GMRS Radio on the 73cm Band. I understand why the reverse is not legal, but I'm confused as what would be the problem to operate a GMRS Radio on the 440 MHz Band, so long as the operator holds both a Ham & GMRS License. As hams, we can build our own transmitters/receivers, for the ham bands. What would be the problem with having a commercial radio on a ham band? I know hams that have done this for years, with no issue or problem.
I don't see a legal issue with that. My point was that Part 95 radios won't transmit on the 440 Ham band. They are locked to the GMRS band.
@@HamRadio2 o.k., that makes sense. Sorry, about the confusion.
I recall there was something related to this a few years back, that came from the FCC. An Official Notice, saying that if the radio could easily be reprogrammed by the operator, to go between commercial & ham frequencies, it could not be used on ham freq's. Did the ARRL make any headway on resolving that matter? There is a lot of commerical radio gear on the market; thanks in large part to the FCC Narrowbanding initiative a few years ago, which would work just fine on the Ham Bands.
@@arbutuswatcher GMRS isn't commercial. Commercial bands are restricted to commercial use, and everyone has to back off them as primary users (since they pay the FCC so much more money for those bands).
@@troy3456789 So I can't use commercial on Ham Radio? I think you've missunderstood the question.
@@arbutuswatcher None of these are commercial bands: FRS, MURS, GMRS, CB, ham radio bands: Now, Ham sometimes shares bands with primary commercial primary users; but when those bands are in use by primary users, hams have to back off them and leave them clear.
OK. So who had the idea to choose to divide by 300? Was there a reason or did someone pull that out of their rear end one day?
Math
They say that light travels at 300,000,000 m/s so 300 for short, also radio waves travel near the speed of light
ex: 300 / 420MHz = 70cm
The price with the fcc is still the same over a year later.
Hello,
I have both GMRS/HAM licenses, I use GMRS for family comes and have a repeater setup, outside of family there is one other user of the Repeater.
I like the Ham infrastructure, linked repeaters, but my family won't study hard enough to pass a Ham test, So they're limited to GMRS system.
We find GMRS great for Jeep groups, etc, Really hate the Line of Sight of GMRS, terrain makes it really tough to get more than 10 miles here, Need a taller tower, at 50' now, needs to be 75+ to get over the ridge to the south.
But wife, and sons love using GMRS.
Good morning, We're just getting into overlanding and are looking for good comms. between rigs. We also do alot of hiking. I'm glad I found your channel because it's going to help us amateur's get set up. Thanks again, look forward to doing some binge watching of your channel this weekend. J&C @kuehlkuest
This is a pretty good explanation for beginners. I'm going to get my feet wet with GMRS. I expect to move to the lowest ham license soon after. Any idea when the fees are going to drop?
They dropped in April, 2022. Get your FRN, then get your license. Easy as pie.
i agree with you need both lic i am wrcs984 from ne oklahoma just wanted say thank for the talk and providing they talk about 2 way comuinitcation s
Im a ham operator and have recently gotten into gmrs. I like all the bands available in the ham world, but if i just want to use simplex walkies to my wife and daughter i been using gmrs radios almost exclusivly in that respect. They simply want to communicate, they have no interest in how radio works.
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Hmm, did that stream end abruptly for anyone else?
all the radios.
Update. 2021 summer both GMRS and HAM will be charging 35.00 for 10 years now. (still have to take the test on Ham radio)
OK, So GMRS is channelized. I am assuming that those radios are then preset and not tunable between the channels. But Ham equipment can certainly tune in between to listen. Hmmm, wonder what is in those voids. CIA? NSA?
You are correct. Good question about the other channels though, lol
@@HamRadio2 Somebody alluded to sending encrypted/coded messages on GMRS. I know that is prohibited for Ham, but is it legal to do on GMRS and/or FRS, MURS? If so, it might be an incentive to get the extra license. Also, how far can I expect a 50-watt GMRS to reach?