"Sovereignty Rests With The Voters Of New Zealand Not With Iwi" - Shane Jones

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  • New Zealand First Deputy Leader Shane Jones calls out elite Iwi activists who are attempting to minimise the democratic mandate given to the government, saying "Sovereignty Rests With The Voters Of New Zealand Not With Iwi"

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  • @kevinansley7353
    @kevinansley7353 8 місяців тому +216

    Why are we paying tax to have our vote undermined by tv 1.

    • @ShirleyZhang-bt4dj
      @ShirleyZhang-bt4dj 8 місяців тому +62

      Because they are woke.Nothing new.Jenny May is woke as they come.Nothing new here.

    • @JohanThiart
      @JohanThiart 8 місяців тому +37

      Why are our taxes used to support TV1.

    • @donr2176
      @donr2176 8 місяців тому

      They should defund both TVOne and TV3 plus the Herald and Stuff.. Pathetic Woke rubbish and very poor journalists @@JohanThiart

    • @Jay-oh1li
      @Jay-oh1li 8 місяців тому +25

      Defund the media. Someone make that a t shirt lmao

    • @idenhlm
      @idenhlm 8 місяців тому +34

      Yes I have noticed that. The popular vote is constantly being challenged by subversive media.

  • @Gary-o5m
    @Gary-o5m 8 місяців тому +93

    Tv nz suck

    • @neilmarshall5087
      @neilmarshall5087 8 місяців тому +1

      All TV sucks. Why do you watch it?

    • @terounga2
      @terounga2 7 місяців тому +2

      Absolutely 💯 and liars!

  • @oafhuck6637
    @oafhuck6637 8 місяців тому +164

    I like how Winston Peters pointed out in Parliament, that the Maori Party were not the voice of Maori as only 1 in 6 Maori voters voted for them. So, I like the other 5 in 6 voted against the 1 in 6 separatists who's only task is feather their own nest. Not all Maori or New Zealanders

    • @turi03175
      @turi03175 8 місяців тому +2

      Shouldn't have to go to the vote had already been voted when treaty had been signed should be smooth transition these clowns against crowns obligation to fulfill treaty where now government stand as the rejectors of a lawful binding document❤🎉

    • @dianestevens626
      @dianestevens626 8 місяців тому +1

    • @GaryPeters-nv8pj
      @GaryPeters-nv8pj 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@turi03175 Then perhaps a certain minority group should stop trying to reinterpret said treaty to suit only themselves.

    • @johnlamb3101
      @johnlamb3101 Місяць тому +1

      Go Shane, Shane and Winston. You 3 are doing a magnificent job. Support you!

  • @joannamacfarlane5404
    @joannamacfarlane5404 8 місяців тому +87

    Well said, Shane Jones 😊

  • @itscwoffeetimeandcookiesto5351
    @itscwoffeetimeandcookiesto5351 8 місяців тому +142

    Finally someone speaking commonsense

  • @stevehughes1510
    @stevehughes1510 8 місяців тому +197

    Shane speaks of democracy and commonsense, that's the kiwi way.

    • @lindamckenzie6500
      @lindamckenzie6500 8 місяців тому +16

      Well said

    • @sidneylewis9964
      @sidneylewis9964 8 місяців тому +5

      Shane Jones talks with fork tongue, lol..

    • @gregwaghorn8496
      @gregwaghorn8496 8 місяців тому

      The minority.
      About 1% of the population can't handle, Working for a living.
      Same in happening in Australia.
      It's everyone else's fault.....lol
      Without the European here.
      Maori of the time.
      Would have Eliminated each other.
      Which was our mistake.
      Now we have to put up with the blaming, Separatism, racism pushed everyday.
      Can the Maori blooded people, live in the bush....?
      NO.
      Be bloody grateful

    • @AskingforAIfriend
      @AskingforAIfriend 8 місяців тому +4

      That's y he got booed from the og maoris lol

    • @pjlav6304
      @pjlav6304 8 місяців тому +3

      No more OG Maori nowadays unfortunately​@@AskingforAIfriend

  • @mikewalters5815
    @mikewalters5815 8 місяців тому +182

    The Woke TV 1 pushing the Narative 😊

    • @rogermartin8435
      @rogermartin8435 8 місяців тому +35

      Ah the netballer trying and failing to deliberately stir up the natives and plastic maori where there is nothing to see yet.
      Let maori get their thoughts together logically and rationally and put a proposition for discussion. Stop all this threatening and bullying and incendiary rhetoric. We need an adult conversation not cultural theatre singing dancing and shouting in te reo.

    • @pauljones3062
      @pauljones3062 8 місяців тому

      Another tattooed leftist Maori elite.

    • @antonyarnanova
      @antonyarnanova 8 місяців тому +22

      Can't stand the breakfast team, at least the weather boys gone!

    • @Millektm
      @Millektm 8 місяців тому

      Agree , they are an embarrassment , refuse to watch their woke rubbish, they might still be wondering why they are loosing money, why do they need 4 people to push their daily garbage I can't fathom.There is a more and more used saying lately,go woke go broke!
      ​@antonyarnanova

    • @neilmarshall5087
      @neilmarshall5087 8 місяців тому

      Woke means being aware of the oppression of black people. Your comment shows you do not know that.

  • @mackakiwinz4353
    @mackakiwinz4353 8 місяців тому +152

    We are over it my grandfather fought for our freedom as a gunner and mechanical engineer in the RNZAF. 7 years on and off he was seperate from my grandmothe. I was born here my mother was my grandparents were. It is our nation.Enough bludging we are over it. Winston and Shane can call it as they are Māori. We will not be divided and fall for the “divide and.conquer.

    • @ShirleyZhang-bt4dj
      @ShirleyZhang-bt4dj 8 місяців тому +25

      Well said Shane.Dont let Rawiri and Debbie Packer see this.

    • @badchefi
      @badchefi 8 місяців тому +9

      Validating yourself with the achievements of your grandfather is pathetic and gives you no right for anything.
      What have you done other than fill your pockets?

    • @gregwaghorn8496
      @gregwaghorn8496 8 місяців тому +22

      ​@badchefi explain full your pockets....?
      Most people are born in NZ.
      Get educated, then have a job to live.
      Don't cry, and blame everyone else for the crimes, the poverty that the minority do everyday.
      I was brought up in Rotorua.
      All my Maori blooded school mates, are successful with there life.
      What's your problem?

    • @badchefi
      @badchefi 8 місяців тому

      @@gregwaghorn8496 you didn’t serve for your country - your grand dad did

    • @manatuhou1165
      @manatuhou1165 8 місяців тому

      Before your grandfather fought for English wars our people fought for this country get your crappy 2 cent argument outa here

  • @derekcravenPT
    @derekcravenPT 8 місяців тому +54

    Why doesn’t this “ journalist” actually listen to the answers given by the person she is interviewing!

    • @blueandwhite63
      @blueandwhite63 8 місяців тому +12

      journalist ?

    • @myfathersdaughter324
      @myfathersdaughter324 8 місяців тому +17

      Because this "journalists" head is full of its own self importance.

    • @derekcravenPT
      @derekcravenPT 8 місяців тому +15

      @@blueandwhite63 duly noted…retired sports person left of woke!

    • @koro287
      @koro287 8 місяців тому

      Too busy positioning her stupid tatts for all to see than paying attention.

    • @neilmarshall5087
      @neilmarshall5087 8 місяців тому +1

      @@derekcravenPT Woke means being aware of the oppression of black people. Your comment shows you do not know that.

  • @danielthomas8507
    @danielthomas8507 8 місяців тому +71

    Maori were mentioned it said ...Article 2 "Honour ALL New Zealanders and their property"

    • @terounga2
      @terounga2 7 місяців тому

      Yes it did, you're right 👍
      However that was the english translation which we now know to be well basically full of shit! Lies! Now Dyor and have a great day 😂

    • @GaryPeters-nv8pj
      @GaryPeters-nv8pj 3 місяці тому

      Yes, she/it conveniently didn't include them. Sounds a bit racist aye?

  • @deborahpaklos5117
    @deborahpaklos5117 8 місяців тому +109

    Thanks goodness for Shane Jones, his knowledge and common sense.

  • @Millektm
    @Millektm 8 місяців тому +19

    That ex netball player is an absolute shocker , and they wonder why they they are loosing money and going down the gurgler.Cant see this Govt handing them millions to keep them afloat as Labour did.

  • @ManUnitedNZ-ng5jw
    @ManUnitedNZ-ng5jw 8 місяців тому +58

    "Engrossed in the law that they cant change nothing..". Goodness, the Maori King just isnt very bright is he?

    • @lancedonald6070
      @lancedonald6070 8 місяців тому +11

      The actual word he used was "engrossed" - a ludicrous proposition which proves he is virtually illiterate

    • @rogermartin8435
      @rogermartin8435 8 місяців тому +10

      @@lancedonald6070 it is a concern that this poor grasp of english will continue to plague any discussion. I now understand all the shouting, bullying, threatening from the natives with the singing dancing in te reo. They are scared of an open respectfull discussion and dialogue in well structured sophisticated english which has much experience in international contracts.

    • @fredjones9750
      @fredjones9750 8 місяців тому +1

      Well he is actually a former truckie.

    • @rogermartin8435
      @rogermartin8435 8 місяців тому +1

      @@fredjones9750 Respect.

    • @FRED-gx2qk
      @FRED-gx2qk 8 місяців тому

      Mutual respect is stage1

  • @L.budz.
    @L.budz. 8 місяців тому +110

    Shane clarifies things well, it so weird how the opposition just change the actual facts into a twisted mess off assumptions and allegations that are totally unfounded mistruths

    • @lindamckenzie6500
      @lindamckenzie6500 8 місяців тому +8

      So true ..

    • @jjp7300
      @jjp7300 8 місяців тому +6

      Exactly.. it was all assumptions and false ellegations!!

    • @terounga2
      @terounga2 7 місяців тому

      Read the Maori version of the Tiriti, understand that document, then you may have an idea of why he's lost credibility in Maoridom throughout the Motu!

  • @GC-ol6ih
    @GC-ol6ih 8 місяців тому +150

    New Zealand First all the way.
    Shane Jones you are the best person to deal with this. Your knowledge is impeccable.

    • @lindamckenzie6500
      @lindamckenzie6500 8 місяців тому +6

      Hear hear

    • @markthompson1694
      @markthompson1694 8 місяців тому +8

      Shane and Winnie all the way they had my vote. Very level headed and fair ministers 😊

    • @FRED-gx2qk
      @FRED-gx2qk 8 місяців тому +5

      Yes the dynamic duo! Sensible Maoris

    • @annetteblack9573
      @annetteblack9573 8 місяців тому +1

      Hes a crook

    • @terounga2
      @terounga2 7 місяців тому

      Shane Schwab endorsed voters, you'll probably vote for his twin brother Klaus Jones yea.
      Well hope you'll be happy when you'll own nothing!
      The reset twins!

  • @heatherburton8756
    @heatherburton8756 8 місяців тому +59

    Typical media twisting stories and creating discontent. Go Shane I’d rather listen to the truth you speak.👍

  • @broniabutler4166
    @broniabutler4166 8 місяців тому +25

    The interviewer is so amateur, sobiased , and arrogant

  • @peterlattimore6013
    @peterlattimore6013 8 місяців тому +137

    Enjoy listening to Shane... Frank and honest.

  • @ronnynolegs
    @ronnynolegs 8 місяців тому +64

    Shane is the man

  • @shaunhoward6838
    @shaunhoward6838 8 місяців тому +130

    Stay strong NZ First, NZ stands with you!!!! Hui is a joke!!!! Sort TVNZ out please guys, its soooo woke now days!! 🇳🇿

    • @AskingforAIfriend
      @AskingforAIfriend 8 місяців тому

      Anyways.....

    • @neilmarshall5087
      @neilmarshall5087 8 місяців тому +2

      Woke means being aware of the oppression of black people. Your comment shows you do not know that.

    • @John-f2f9e
      @John-f2f9e 8 місяців тому +4

      ​@@neilmarshall5087 what oppression Maori have the same rights as everyone

    • @neilmarshall5087
      @neilmarshall5087 8 місяців тому +2

      @@John-f2f9e Exactly. So stop rabble rousing, peter with a new empty channel.

    • @davidcooper3317
      @davidcooper3317 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@neilmarshall5087 woke is Not the oppression of black people its an expression of any people black white brown gay transgender and anybody who havent got a life and use it as a rasist or sexist view to prove a point of opinion.

  • @patriciakimber4312
    @patriciakimber4312 8 місяців тому +68

    She should have gone too This is why I don’t bother with msm the bias is unreal I don’t know how he can stand her , she’s not worth his time

  • @donr2176
    @donr2176 8 місяців тому +21

    Well said Shane.. That interviewer makes me angry.. Woke tripe!

  • @rogermartin8435
    @rogermartin8435 8 місяців тому +21

    Bippity boppity boo to you Jenny

  • @williamhutchinson7
    @williamhutchinson7 8 місяців тому +20

    If he has other things to do then so be it so give it a rest lady

  • @food4thort
    @food4thort 8 місяців тому +66

    Whether as a consequence of treaty or war, or both, Shane Jones is correct. Sovereignty rests equally among those on the electoral rolls.

    • @mattwill2643
      @mattwill2643 8 місяців тому +2

      According to our founding constitution, Maori are sovereign, therefore we wouldn't be on your electorate because we aren't governed by it.
      You either honour the founding documents that our ancestors put in place with strength and integrity or declare war once again.

    • @food4thort
      @food4thort 8 місяців тому

      @@mattwill2643 Article 1 (Waitangi Tribunal translation ) - "give absolutely to the Queen of England for ever the complete government over their land" (Kawanatanga). Article 2 relating to rangatiratanga applied to all land that Maori decided to retain rather than sell to the Crown. I own Maori land so I guess I have 'chieftainship/rangatiratanga' over that. I don't see any shared governance or co-governance in either the Maori or English version of the treaty.

    • @mattwill2643
      @mattwill2643 8 місяців тому +1

      @@food4thort the english version is completely different to the maori version, and wherever there is a descrepency in the translations of treatys, it's always the indigenous version that is recognised internationally.
      This is common knowledge mate, catch up.

    • @mattwill2643
      @mattwill2643 8 місяців тому

      The purpose of the treaty was to bring order to the settlors who were savages, so that we could continue to live in peace. We had internationally recognised sovereignty which we obtained less than a decade before the treaty, (HE-WHAKAPUTANGA) that was un-repealable so long as we looked after british settlirs..
      Dont try and tell me we'd achieve all that and then sign it all away a few years later. We weren't fkng stupid.

  • @seddy69
    @seddy69 8 місяців тому +30

    Wow - that interviewer has a very defined set of left wing views and tries her best to corner Shane. Maybe the hui was significant for the few thousand that turned up (so was the Foo Fighters concerts the same day for those 30,000 people). Also can the interviewer speak english properly? She cant speak correct english eg she says 'wanna' instead of 'want to' way too many times.

  • @anthonysherry2628
    @anthonysherry2628 8 місяців тому +96

    Hear their concerns? How about them hearing our concerns. Its not a one way street, like they want it to be. Shane is absolutely right. We, the people want to be one people, where we all respect each others culture and rights.

  • @birgitjevremovic9783
    @birgitjevremovic9783 8 місяців тому +44

    the interviewer lady made me laugh out loud.

    • @lindamckenzie6500
      @lindamckenzie6500 8 місяців тому +4

      I think she got out of the wrong side of her bed...

    • @itsjustweard2328
      @itsjustweard2328 8 місяців тому +4

      No I used to like Jeremy may but she's turning radical to.

  • @hextoken
    @hextoken 8 місяців тому +112

    Democracy over extremists

  • @Cyril_Squirrel
    @Cyril_Squirrel 8 місяців тому +15

    The woman is speaking a sentence in English. Why is it necessary for her to introduce motu into it. There's a perfectly good English word that should have been used.

    • @StGammon77
      @StGammon77 8 місяців тому +2

      The plan is to systematically take English words out.

    • @MikeCarey-u7q
      @MikeCarey-u7q 2 місяці тому +1

      We no longer watch TV1.

  • @malcolmharfitt4032
    @malcolmharfitt4032 8 місяців тому +76

    Why should anyone be expected to attend a meeting simply because moaning activists call one?

    • @mr_smell_nice
      @mr_smell_nice Місяць тому

      Malcolm I couldn't have said it better 👍

  • @gransha3
    @gransha3 8 місяців тому +42

    Go Shane, you're the man

  • @Chopper650
    @Chopper650 8 місяців тому +53

    when u blow $2.4 billion in settlement money and then come back for more and as for old kingi.... his own family is a shambles and he's telling the country what to do... gtfo

    • @StGammon77
      @StGammon77 8 місяців тому

      They were the terrorists that started the NZ war

    • @francisheperi4180
      @francisheperi4180 6 місяців тому

      Gambling at Hamilton casino, wasn't it?

  • @mervswan1121
    @mervswan1121 8 місяців тому +29

    Is TVNZ owned by the Government ? Or do the Maori own it ? Just wondered ,

  • @teddy-7957
    @teddy-7957 8 місяців тому +48

    10,000?.. i think thats exaggerated as I watched the hui in it's entirety and if 10,000 were present they must of been hiding in the neighbouring buildings..

    • @pauljones3062
      @pauljones3062 8 місяців тому +7

      No they were shoplifting.

    • @paulmcewen
      @paulmcewen 8 місяців тому

      More like half that number turned up,TV1 and their Woke agendas. No taxpayers money should be given to these bastards, let them stand on their own two feet.

    • @margueritemccartney3607
      @margueritemccartney3607 8 місяців тому

      Yeah they are happy to lie about their numbers unlike when we were fighting for our lives during Covid from government tyranny they could only say a couple of hundred . They are liars .

    • @hinewaihiri7019
      @hinewaihiri7019 8 місяців тому

      Wow..🤬🤬​@@pauljones3062

    • @rodnichols6237
      @rodnichols6237 8 місяців тому

      ​@pauljones3062 you are a very special kind of idot

  • @calling_a_spade_a_spade
    @calling_a_spade_a_spade 8 місяців тому +98

    God bless you Shane Jones and may God bless our country.

    • @drago-us2xd
      @drago-us2xd 8 місяців тому +10

      I lived through civil war caused by politicians pushing separation on ethnicity grounds. Why? Only for personal benefit. Don't wont to see that again! Shane keep doing as we feel to be uniting our people, not the opposite.

    • @paperclip612
      @paperclip612 8 місяців тому +6

      He told you why he couldn't attend , cloth ears!

    • @lindamckenzie6500
      @lindamckenzie6500 8 місяців тому +6

      Excellent

    • @DW_Kiwi
      @DW_Kiwi 8 місяців тому

      Yes. Shane "be" consistent and honest!!@@drago-us2xd

  • @thefabulousplatypus8956
    @thefabulousplatypus8956 8 місяців тому +17

    Where is the pressure mounting? lol. This govt is a pressure release. Why would anyone be worried about 100% equal democratic participation? Why is a referendum a bad thing? Most importantly, if we are not to have this kind of democratic discussion, then what is the proposed alternative & who defines this?

    • @kaytaylor9578
      @kaytaylor9578 8 місяців тому

      Karl Popper- "No freedom for the enemies of freedom". (book - The Open Society and its Enemies). His response to the rise of facism in Germany, and how to recognse it and stop it occurring again.

  • @lesleybthedapperkiwi
    @lesleybthedapperkiwi 8 місяців тому +60

    NZ First - address the biased media asap

  • @kevinwalker7413
    @kevinwalker7413 8 місяців тому +16

    Shane talks a good reasoning luv him

  • @ShirleyZhang-bt4dj
    @ShirleyZhang-bt4dj 8 місяців тому +22

    All my life, The Treaty of Waitangi has meant nothing to me and never will.WHY, because in the last 40 years it been open to so much interpretation by so many so called experts and Maori activists high jacking the day.Just a waste of time.As far as I am concerned Waitangi Day is just another unwanted public holiday.

  • @ducker09
    @ducker09 8 місяців тому +11

    10 thousand at the hui. 36 thousand at a rock concert . Do the sums .😅😂😊

  • @davidbinnie9513
    @davidbinnie9513 8 місяців тому +34

    Just because you put emphasis on the words when you say 'T E N T H O U S A N D M O A R I ' does not make the number seem bigger when its less than 1.2% of the total Māori population in New Zealand, especially when the huia (moan session) is held in a town with over 7k Māori right there living. Te Pati Māori would have you think it's a massive revolt against the government and a clear sign they are not listening to the 'people' .19% of the total population of 5.2 million. Give me a break, there are many concerts in Auckland sold out within days most tickets costing hundreds of dollars each that gets 10x the amount of attention.

    • @itsjustweard2328
      @itsjustweard2328 8 місяців тому +2

      Yes we all think that 10,000 Maori that turned up was an exaggeration.

    • @alastairdow4400
      @alastairdow4400 8 місяців тому +3

      30,000 at foo fighters concert same day

    • @Ignite-Life-275
      @Ignite-Life-275 8 місяців тому

      @@itsjustweard2328 you should of went there, wasn't all Māori,

    • @Ignite-Life-275
      @Ignite-Life-275 8 місяців тому

      @@alastairdow4400 it was more like 33,000 I was there after I attended the kiigitanga hui

  • @lindamckenzie6500
    @lindamckenzie6500 8 місяців тому +31

    Well said Shane ! you are a force to be reckoned with....yes there is too much interference from Maoridom radicals .. Unfortunately you can blame labour for the unrest ..they spoiled the Maori ...now with a change of Government the gravy train has slowed down ...and the radicals not like it! We are all equal here regardless ..why should the Maori be singled out for special treatment...we are all special no matter what colour...

    • @leroytippett4919
      @leroytippett4919 8 місяців тому

      Far cup! I am Māori so please tell me where I was spoilt again whilst labour was in govt? Far Kim muppet you are, I’m special and proud to be Māori, very few of us Māori in the world. So don’t say we are all the same regardless of colour.

  • @Colonel_Blimp
    @Colonel_Blimp 8 місяців тому +17

    10,000 went to the hui. 30,000 went to a rock concert.

    • @StGammon77
      @StGammon77 8 місяців тому

      50k went to the Parliament occupation and were called a river of filth, completely ignored then ransacked by police. Maori have such extraordinary privilege!

  • @johnnymartin3846
    @johnnymartin3846 8 місяців тому +49

    And this is why I moved to Australia it seems it’s gotten a lot worse since I left 12 years ago

    • @itsjustweard2328
      @itsjustweard2328 8 місяців тому +15

      Yes thanks to Jacinta ardern

    • @TheHlydenLord83
      @TheHlydenLord83 8 місяців тому +3

      Why bother commenting then stay in Oz
      Don’t bother Us

    • @johnnymartin3846
      @johnnymartin3846 8 місяців тому +6

      @@TheHlydenLord83 happy to

    • @leroytippett4919
      @leroytippett4919 8 місяців тому +2

      Fun fact: Aotearoa got better the day you left, please don’t change that.

    • @helenlizzystewart4908
      @helenlizzystewart4908 8 місяців тому +2

      I bet his life got better as well moving from the dump we all live in at the moment

  • @WiremuRanginui
    @WiremuRanginui 8 місяців тому +11

    One thing is for certain, no-one knows what the treaty means. I am glad the coalition government is going to tackle this prickly subject and put 'interpretations' to rest.

  • @chrisnipper9163
    @chrisnipper9163 8 місяців тому +12

    Interesting that certain iwi are scared of even discussing issues. There view is they are the only ones that know what the treaty means and they will tell the rest if us! Well sorry the treaty was signed by Iwi and Hapu with a major world power in the hope of bring some stability to a land of murder violence slavery. Whalers of all nations ran riot in NZ. The hell hoke of the pacific. Maori did not sign as an entity they signed as individual Iwi Hapu. The treaty is part of history. The modern relevance needs discussion and agreement by all NZs All the new government has said
    Is that we meed a discussion. You would think the sky was falling!!!! .

    • @paperclip612
      @paperclip612 8 місяців тому +1

      Actually the pre-eminent world power at the time was ASKED to intervene by some of the Maori tribes.

    • @koro287
      @koro287 8 місяців тому

      Same in Fiji, people were living up the hills ,afraid of raiding parties,they welcomed the arriving 'peacemakers' and moved back down to the coast.@@paperclip612

  • @ashman167
    @ashman167 8 місяців тому +38

    Sick of the lame stream media and there bollocks.

  • @honeybadger7002
    @honeybadger7002 8 місяців тому +12

    Every one whos eligible to vote, should get a vote and A country should be owned and run by its "actual" tax paying citizens 🤔

  • @antonialeitz9179
    @antonialeitz9179 8 місяців тому +28

    Iwi treaty mania, well said Shane.

  • @sytharnia1717
    @sytharnia1717 8 місяців тому +7

    I have seen the aerial photo of the hui and there was no way it was 10,000 people .. not even close

  • @Kennybooy9
    @Kennybooy9 8 місяців тому +62

    Absolutely. Nz needs a Captain Cook day. Let’s add that to the annual holidays.

    • @seddy69
      @seddy69 8 місяців тому +22

      I agree. J Cook arrived 250 years ago on a Naval mission. He was amazing based on the unknown behaviours he met. He also was a great hydrographic surveyor by the way = safety of navigation. So if the UK did not claim NZ then the French would have done it 2 weeks later. Would the French have been as understanding?

    • @ofasociety
      @ofasociety 8 місяців тому +17

      Mr. Cook was a legend!

    • @StGammon77
      @StGammon77 8 місяців тому +6

      Yes we could just create one

    • @laurapirrit6722
      @laurapirrit6722 8 місяців тому +1

      @@seddy69 well, they do have a similar work ethic :D

    • @rodnichols6237
      @rodnichols6237 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@StGammon77 another over stayer

  • @JohanThiart
    @JohanThiart 8 місяців тому +12

    “All” does seem to suggest that Maori is included.😊

  • @JamesClark-cg1qk
    @JamesClark-cg1qk 8 місяців тому +61

    The ToW clearly states Maori ceded sovereignty and are now equal with everyone else. That's it.

    • @CatherineAugust
      @CatherineAugust 8 місяців тому +2

      No it doesn't! 550 chiefs signed Te Tiriti o Waitangi not the treaty of Waitangi...have you been living under a rock. Our forefathers never ceded sovereignty...If they did why has it been through the courts for decades.Why is there a Waitangi Tribunal...why do iwi get millions of dollars worth of payments...some still not settled...Because our ancestors never ceded sovereignty that's why!

    • @tinamitchell7496
      @tinamitchell7496 8 місяців тому

      ​@@CatherineAugust Why did the chiefs at Kohimarama conference confirm that they did cede? Why did Sir Apirana Ngata confirm in his book that the chiefs ceded?
      The reason its been all through the courts in the last 40yrs is because of those principles that Geoffrey Palmer invented.
      The reason there have been payouts is because there were legitimate land claims, nobody with a rational brain is arguing that. Claims about airwaves, seabed and rain are bullshit invented by corrupt greedy men.

    • @JamesClark-cg1qk
      @JamesClark-cg1qk 8 місяців тому +14

      read it, clearly says ceded sovereignty @@CatherineAugust

    • @CatherineAugust
      @CatherineAugust 8 місяців тому

      @@JamesClark-cg1qk that's not the correct version is the point...anyway my home that's being built in Auckland due to our iwi never ceding sovereignty and owning the 3rd biggest power station in Aotearoa is almost ready...When the Auckland anniversary floods happened last year my iwi freely put $300 in my bank just because thats what they do a long with the scholarships cheap dental and health care..the money will never run out and that is the benefit of being Māori and not ceding sovereignty go have a cry with your delusions and incorrect version of Te Tiriti o Waitangi 🤣 BTW I'm 36 started working at 17 and have been on the benefit for a total of 4 months due to being made redundant when I was 19...so don't even go there lol

    • @surferscollective613
      @surferscollective613 8 місяців тому

      2 versions. And why would anyone ask anyone else to cede sovereignty!

  • @MrRasZee
    @MrRasZee 8 місяців тому +9

    tuheitia is a labour voter . they lost . suck it up

  • @seanpindred
    @seanpindred 8 місяців тому +7

    Since when do we have to ask Maori to go for a fish?
    Who's running the country ?
    Get tuff on crime and those that are inciting reverse racism and breaking the law ....

  • @robertwoodroffe123
    @robertwoodroffe123 8 місяців тому +9

    Some of the comments from te patti !?? Nothing is off the table! If they don’t get their way 😮 that sounds, seditionist threat

  • @FinnDelMundoTravel
    @FinnDelMundoTravel 8 місяців тому +28

    All of us a sick of it. Ultimately we need to shred the outdated treaty and rewrite it. Hui happens in Wellington Jenny, in the government buildings, not some backwater marae in timbuktu.

  • @jackiebiggs7071
    @jackiebiggs7071 8 місяців тому +28

    Jenny May there aren't 3 principles there are 3 articles. Shane told you the principles were introduced in 1975 and are organic and can be shifted and reinterpreted at the pleasure of Maori ad infinitum

    • @mariag3605
      @mariag3605 8 місяців тому +4

      Exactly - thank you!

    • @jackiebiggs7071
      @jackiebiggs7071 8 місяців тому

      @robintamihere4550
      When the principles of the treaty were first mentioned in legislation in 1975, one member of Parliament predicted that they would create ‘debate, dissension and even divisiveness’ in New Zealand.2 Indeed, the principles of the treaty have been, and continue to be, the subject of debate. On one
      From Google

    • @helenlizzystewart4908
      @helenlizzystewart4908 8 місяців тому

      trouble is commentators like her have no ears, they are only there to ......... geez I don't even know why she is there

  • @garysum9121
    @garysum9121 8 місяців тому +6

    This time I stand with Shane on logic common sense comment, tvnz again try to twist National, act and New Zealand First.

  • @thepunishernzl
    @thepunishernzl 8 місяців тому +6

    That lady is talentless

  • @peterbu27
    @peterbu27 8 місяців тому +5

    In Article 1 of the Treaty (in whichever language) the Maori chiefs and the people they represent cede all sovereignty and authority to the Crown.
    There should be no question of where authority rests.

  • @annemoefaauo7055
    @annemoefaauo7055 8 місяців тому +9

    Glad to have it clarified that the Government has no intention to change or alter the Treaty in any way. What are the origins of the leak?
    If the document has not yet been seen or discussed by cabinet, it does not represent the intentions of the government on this issue. It has however, very mischievously stirred up a lot of fear and unrest amongst many people.
    It would certainly serve the interests of the opposition to fuel those fears and concerns, but it would also be shamelessly exploitative.

    • @tinamitchell7496
      @tinamitchell7496 8 місяців тому

      Sadly, the majority of the 'public servants' who work at Parliament hate this govt and will do all sorts to undermine it. This will be some snot nosed pink haired white non-binary condescending individual with a Messiah complex pretending to be a whistleblower, stealing a draft written by one of their colleagues. It's likely to have not had the eyes of even one Minister upon it.
      Just some prick trying to stir up division.

    • @rodnichols6237
      @rodnichols6237 8 місяців тому

      ​@@tinamitchell7496😂😂😂😂😂

    • @MrMigido
      @MrMigido 7 місяців тому

      It would also serve as a huge distraction for a newly formed government implementing it's mandates.
      50 key supermarkets to have facial recognition installed, "just a trial", for instance of left hand /right hand.

  • @KiwiSkipper
    @KiwiSkipper 8 місяців тому +5

    Would be good if J.May didn't try a twist the facts and force her points of view onto all. The fact that it was an iwi meeting means iwi.. not government. Government is elected .. iwi are a group and can do what ever they want. Now difference to a group of Kiwi having a BBQ. We wouldn't expect government to turn up to that. What she should be asking is who leaked the document. I want to see a "Bill" introduced to throw anybody who leaks government documents should be thrown in jail.

  • @deanwitt7903
    @deanwitt7903 8 місяців тому +4

    Co goverenence isn’t in the treaty document but the Māoris had no issues with that . Either was Maori control of water etc etc . The bottom line is the Māoris have had their paddle taken from them and their nonsense is dead in the water and so when they don’t get what they want then their default setting is to call the government racist 😂😂

  • @moronicdooshbaggery756
    @moronicdooshbaggery756 8 місяців тому +12

    Good informative answers Shane.
    Jenny may is insufferable

  • @roycurrie3771
    @roycurrie3771 8 місяців тому +8

    Well said shane

  • @sarathdealwis3750
    @sarathdealwis3750 8 місяців тому +4

    Tell the fellas to discipline their own peoples behaviour rather than trying to teach government what to do these fellas are not elected by anyone just displaying ignorance 😂

  • @VyndakistOfficial
    @VyndakistOfficial 8 місяців тому +5

    Shane jones is amazing 🗿🗿🗿🗿🇳🇿🇳🇿🇳🇿🇳🇿

  • @tomjohnson9241
    @tomjohnson9241 8 місяців тому +9

    It almost appears that certain elements DONT want the Treaty enshrined in any legislation or review for that would mean it cant be amended or altered to suit future situations.

  • @itsjustweard2328
    @itsjustweard2328 8 місяців тому +6

    The Maoris are getting all crazy about What No one is saying the treaty is gone.People . All people of N Z just want to Know WHAT DO YOU MAORI WANT.Becose no one else knows.And that is were the conversation needs to be had. But Maori' are Being completely unreasonable.

    • @robertbaird4822
      @robertbaird4822 8 місяців тому +5

      They the practise protesting Maori want to run the whole country,THE CANT EVEN RUN A BATH

    • @GaryPeters-nv8pj
      @GaryPeters-nv8pj 8 місяців тому +3

      @rob..... but they sure can run their mouth.

    • @Abraham-MasterofLights
      @Abraham-MasterofLights 8 місяців тому

      They want the New Zealand people to be there slaves, and they will never stop until they get it.

  • @5150show
    @5150show 8 місяців тому +10

    Take the cheaty of Waitangi to a referendum

  • @bronwynsearle2117
    @bronwynsearle2117 8 місяців тому +6

    Yep you tell 'em Shane 😂 not with iwi.. good 👍

  • @DW_Kiwi
    @DW_Kiwi 8 місяців тому +4

    Is she listening!! Someone need to get through to Maori that New Zealanders are not all Maori. Nor want to be.

  • @gregwells8764
    @gregwells8764 8 місяців тому +5

    and the moanfest continues. zzzzzzzzz

  • @56364
    @56364 8 місяців тому +3

    Can we please now get over the triti and move on. It's not relevant.

  • @W61K
    @W61K 8 місяців тому +9

    Thank ýou Shane. The people have voted, end of. Most of us are sick and tired of the beginning of every year hearing from the disgruntled few Maori radicals and their supporters. Thank goodness Democracy is to be upheld by this coalition Government. We hear that Maori are 17% of the vote and 2% of those 17% voted for the Maori Party. Therefore 83% ( or the majority) of the voting public voted for this coalition Govt with their stance on treating every NZerequally, all treated the same and not 17% being an exception to the rule ! Thank you to the coalition Govt for having no biased policy, the majority support you.

  • @stevenbrown8157
    @stevenbrown8157 8 місяців тому +7

    😂😂 get em Shane 😂

  • @louisebracknell2451
    @louisebracknell2451 8 місяців тому +3

    Well said Shane Jones, but seems if you weren't Maori you would have been slammed for those comments. There is a racist undertone and it's the opposite to what MSM are portraying. No one is allowed to say anything without being called racist unless you are Maori.

  • @lawildman1
    @lawildman1 8 місяців тому +8

    Just look at her face challenging Shane to dispute anything she says,and constantly trying to trip him up

  • @kevinwalker7413
    @kevinwalker7413 8 місяців тому +15

    Shane is the man and real deal

  • @Cyril_Squirrel
    @Cyril_Squirrel 8 місяців тому +4

    How many times does TV1 have to be told that National won't support the bill after the first reading? Is there something in the education of TV1 broadcasters that they don't understand English. The bill is dead in the water.

  • @tonimancer8075
    @tonimancer8075 8 місяців тому +3

    Once again a poor interview by the presenter for TVNZ, a reason why many of us have moved on to more informed news media. TVNZ is very left now and doesn’t give a balanced view of Many stories it covers when it comes to Māori activism.

  • @bingading3673
    @bingading3673 8 місяців тому +3

    The Treaty of Waitangi was supposed to unite us but certain Māori voices are now having the opposite effect. No one understands what they want and I suspect they don't either. Maybe they want independence and sovereignty and half the countries tax take? Maybe they want the rivers and lakes and every drop of water that falls from the sky?

  • @warrenlancaster286
    @warrenlancaster286 8 місяців тому +11

    I have grown to like this man’s cool calm approach.👍

  • @yogibear4682
    @yogibear4682 8 місяців тому +27

    Sovereignty was sorted out in 1840. End of story.
    The Chiefs of the Confederation of the United Tribes of New Zealand and the separate and independent Chiefs who have not become members of the Confederation CEDE to Her Majesty the Queen of England absolutely and without reservation all the rights and powers of SOVEREIGNTY which the said Confederation or Individual Chiefs respectively exercise or possess, or may be supposed to exercise or to possess over their respective Territories as the sole sovereigns thereof.
    Main stream woke media needs to be defunded.

    • @YKATO871
      @YKATO871 8 місяців тому

      You were there then?

    • @martinsmallwood9605
      @martinsmallwood9605 8 місяців тому +12

      @@YKATO871
      He is quoting the treaty mate .

    • @Colin_Izer1111
      @Colin_Izer1111 8 місяців тому +5

      Good comment...definitely smarter than your average bear.

    • @martinsmallwood9605
      @martinsmallwood9605 8 місяців тому

      @robintamihere4550
      The first
      The Chiefs of the Confederation and all the Chiefs who have not joined that Confederation give absolutely to the Queen of England for ever the complete government over their land.
      SOURCE waitangitribunal.GOV

  • @222-i6o
    @222-i6o 8 місяців тому +9

    shane jones is really showing leadership....long live nz1st.

  • @youfritter
    @youfritter 8 місяців тому +3

    Her questions couldn't be more loaded if she tried. "The Sovereignty rests with the voters of New Zealand". This is the crux of the matter and Maori activists will learn this the hard way.

  • @mareeauld5778
    @mareeauld5778 8 місяців тому +3

    Lol, "They can't change nothin'" 😂 i thought he was supposed to be a king😂

    • @kaytaylor9578
      @kaytaylor9578 8 місяців тому

      Perhaps he is better at te reo.

    • @barbaraknowles2713
      @barbaraknowles2713 8 місяців тому

      ​@@kaytaylor9578apparantly he cant speak te reo

  • @damiengrant967
    @damiengrant967 8 місяців тому +3

    There was mention of Maori... because Maori are also new zealanders

  • @koro287
    @koro287 8 місяців тому +4

    Jenny no match for Shane.LOL.

  • @robertmccabe8632
    @robertmccabe8632 8 місяців тому +12

    The Treaty has
    ARTICLES not
    "principles".
    As to whether New Zealand exists?
    Or is new zealand only the Ross dependency as defined in Statute.
    Magna Carta applies to all people.

    • @lindamckenzie6500
      @lindamckenzie6500 8 місяців тому +2

      The Magna Carter should be taught in Schools .....

  • @andrewmann3787
    @andrewmann3787 8 місяців тому +3

    Significant if your maori
    Just a bunch of wingers if your not
    1 man(or women )
    I vote equality under the law .
    Sick and tired of all this wineing maori rights are the same as any other citizen.

  • @UnkleSi
    @UnkleSi 8 місяців тому +2

    Defund the MSM.

  • @neillewis785
    @neillewis785 8 місяців тому +2

    EXACTLY NO GOOD TELLING TV1 THAT .THEY SUPPORT THEM .WHOS PAYING THEIR BRIBES NOW???

  • @honahwikeepa2115
    @honahwikeepa2115 8 місяців тому +2

    King Tainui isn't recognised on the Central Plateau. We watched both boat people arrive from the sea then forge a Treaty without us. Throw the bullshit Treaty down the shit house.

  • @mariusstrydom3667
    @mariusstrydom3667 8 місяців тому +3

    Media busy to blow this into a very serious matter. The media needs to be held accountable for their actions.

  • @margaretvanson3601
    @margaretvanson3601 8 місяців тому +2

    Why is an ex netball player masquerading as a journalist? She has no credentials that give me any confidence that she can investigate an issue objectively.

  • @jacquiewilliams4567
    @jacquiewilliams4567 8 місяців тому +8

    Shane Jones you speak for us and our desire to move forward for the benefit of all.

  • @lengho6294
    @lengho6294 8 місяців тому +2

    Why the maori gp do not focus on how to improve the education, poverty , health of its people? It is time maori gp changes its tactics by looking at the real issues of its people.