Why The Job Market Is A Complete Joke | A Life After Layoff

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  • @DamonCassidy
    @DamonCassidy  Місяць тому +23

    I hope this provided some value! Here is a link to Bryan’s channel: youtube.com/@alifeafterlayoff?si=DGI9hhx8I5IUtuC4

    • @Growmap
      @Growmap Місяць тому

      Corporate greed has always been over the top. I'd like to share some past examples: 1) IBM hired a lot of people 1977-1978. Every year in writing we were promised a full pension after 30 years. Then around 1995, IBM and all the other corporations illegally converted real pension to 401ks. Not only did we lose our pensions, but they only put roughly half of the current value into the 401k. Employees sued; won the first round; it went into appeals which could continue until everyone dies of old age. I eventually resigned.
      2) IBM decided to split part of the field engineering (computer repair) force into a separate company. Techs chosen to be moved were put on one year's probation + had their salaries cut 25% even if they had 25+ years experience with excellent appraisals their entire career.
      3) IBM and AT&T basically traded employees to take away seniority. Some work was "outsourced" to the other corporation along with the employees who lost their existing seniority and basically started over. And the second corporation did the same with a bunch of their employees.
      As for ridiculous job requirements, I never recognized MY OWN JOB in the descriptions. And now I see silly job postings on LinkedIn all of the time. I've seen postings asking for more years of experience than a skill has existed. And most recently I saw a posting for a proofreader that required a MASTERS DEGREE. IF that really was true, it would have to specify a degree in WHAT SPECIALTY. It didn't.
      Personally, my philosophy since resigning from IBM after 23 years was I never want another J.O.B. (Just Over Broke) in my life. I've successfully freelanced entirely online since 2000. Just this year they shut down what provided my primary income for the past six years. Within a month I picked up two clients on retainer to replace that income.

    • @hgrimes9824
      @hgrimes9824 Місяць тому +1

      It's all greed period.

    • @MubashirullahD
      @MubashirullahD Місяць тому +2

      Already subscribed to him

    • @atlantic_love
      @atlantic_love 27 днів тому +1

      Was this an actual interview between you two? Something feels off.

    • @MubashirullahD
      @MubashirullahD 27 днів тому +2

      @@atlantic_love It did feel async

  • @brianhill8974
    @brianhill8974 Місяць тому +311

    Fake job postings equals gaining your personal information to sell to someone else

    • @michaelszczys8316
      @michaelszczys8316 29 днів тому +32

      My young son told me every place in town has help wanted sign but nobody is hiring.

    • @michaelszczys8316
      @michaelszczys8316 29 днів тому +4

      Except fast food

    • @kiki11974
      @kiki11974 27 днів тому +4

      I have 4 FinServ companies (well known) who did fake layoffs. How do I know. Jobs were posted 4 days ago and now are mysteriously no longer taking application submissions.

    • @rustyscrapper
      @rustyscrapper 25 днів тому

      And data mining to test how low of a wage they can get away with before absolutely nobody on the planet will accept the job. If they think there's some 20 year old kid who's parents pay their bills that will take the job for the sake of having a job, a
      They will take that person.

    • @fremontpathfinder8463
      @fremontpathfinder8463 25 днів тому +3

      That's why people need to apply directly on a company website.

  • @StVick
    @StVick 15 днів тому +59

    "I probably wasn't a good fit for HR because I showed alot of empathy ".....speaks volumes.

    • @DamonCassidy
      @DamonCassidy  15 днів тому +7

      That set me back also

    • @jberndt88
      @jberndt88 12 днів тому +5

      I seriously applied for a job as a therapist to be a Corporate People Person. A liaison between corporate and employees. I took a stupid test that said I had too much empathy, they also sold my info from the test I took. So basically they wanted a gaslighting spy for the position.

  • @rochellemcdonald9646
    @rochellemcdonald9646 Місяць тому +469

    My son applied for a job in 2020. He gave his apartment people notice and gave his old employer notice, that he was moving because of a new job. About a week before he was supposed to catch his flight and his household goods were in transit, he found out the new job that he'd been accepted for was eliminated. His move had been out-of-pocket. Luckily, I had space in my home, where his family was able to stay, while he did job hunting for the next two months. One of the jobs said it could be done remotely, which looked great. There was a catch. When he did the interview, they said he was required to be in the office one day a week (four states away). Moving again was not an option.

    • @charliedallachie3539
      @charliedallachie3539 Місяць тому +117

      This is why I don’t want to move for jobs. It should come with a guaranteed 3 months pay or something if they cancel… companies used to cover moving costs more frequently

    •  Місяць тому +49

      ‘Remote’ as it gets… love these postings. Bait and switch.

    • @robertkeaney9905
      @robertkeaney9905 Місяць тому +38

      My dad did a remote job like that.
      He bit the bullet, and just flew in one day a week.
      Only god knows how many frequent flyers miles that man has. I don't even want to think about how much of his pay check went to delta and south west over the course of that year.

    • @rochellemcdonald9646
      @rochellemcdonald9646 Місяць тому +6

      If he'd had to travel from where he'd been originally, it would have been almost as remote as it could get. He would have spent most of a day travelling to get there, by plane.

    • @Justmonika6969
      @Justmonika6969 Місяць тому

      You wanna bet they wanted him in office one day a week so they could keep better track of him? They don't make us come to work for our benefit.

  • @KJPartyof6
    @KJPartyof6 Місяць тому +125

    Since my layoff, & going through all the stages, I feel like I'm finally on the outside looking in, wondering why the heck I ever thought playing their games would get me somewhere in life? Success? A sense of accomplishment? Sacrificed time with family. How did i overlook this for 18 years?! Smh. To die at a desk before retiring and no one noticing for 4 days... That's what my future would've held for me.

    • @SurpriseMeJT
      @SurpriseMeJT Місяць тому +9

      Normally it's purely "loss aversion" which makes us believe that we need to hang on to something we fear losing.

    • @curtis5799
      @curtis5799 Місяць тому +21

      Yep. Clock in 5 mins late, you're fired. Dead at desk 4 days, no one notices.

    • @isakjones5836
      @isakjones5836 21 день тому

      ​@SurpriseMeJT I mean, if I lose my Health insurance I'll lose my custody. So it is loss eversion, but I don't think that's the real problem

    • @ppmny7015
      @ppmny7015 10 днів тому

      Watch Falling Down.

  • @TheJacrespo
    @TheJacrespo 28 днів тому +88

    The job market is so ludicrously broken that it's way easier to start your own business than to get a job.

    • @watamatafoyu
      @watamatafoyu 24 дні тому +12

      And it's easier to scam everybody with AI than start a business.

    • @kenbagwell8551
      @kenbagwell8551 21 день тому +1

      Knock, knock Neo

    • @alphaomega1351
      @alphaomega1351 19 днів тому +18

      It's always been easy to start a business. On the other hand, being successful is a whole other story. 😳

    • @skyblazeeterno
      @skyblazeeterno 18 днів тому

      ​@@watamatafoyuthat sounds like a business 😊

    • @eskoelmwood5936
      @eskoelmwood5936 13 днів тому +2

      That's what I did, after the military, and getting 3 degrees. Companies are looking for people they think they can take advantage of.

  • @mrblank-zh1xy
    @mrblank-zh1xy Місяць тому +318

    Making 115M, this is the problem. Why can't these guys live on 5M? The other 110M could fund 1500 70K/yr staff salaries. These companies have executive staffs that are 100 deep. Layoffs could be avoided without this insane largesse. Why can't shareholders have reasonable expectations based on business cycles?

    • @theredsalmon612
      @theredsalmon612 Місяць тому +44

      It’s called too big to fail and monopolys

    • @_nimrod92
      @_nimrod92 Місяць тому +37

      Greed is good thats why.

    • @sanshinobi3664
      @sanshinobi3664 Місяць тому +3

      Why not? Small and medium business probably do. Unfortunately, with growth comes inertia.

    • @falkenlaser
      @falkenlaser Місяць тому +15

      Because a lot of that money is unrealized in the form of stocks and investments. They don’t just have 115 million liquid cash they can spread around. Plus, the people making that type of money are always taking massive risks that could make or break the company, so they have a huge responsibility. If they were artificially limited how much they can make, no one would be willing to take those risks that can result in enormous success.

    • @ThatOldTaco
      @ThatOldTaco Місяць тому +20

      They need to look to the Nintendo ceos. When times were lean they took home way less than other ceos

  • @glennbzt
    @glennbzt Місяць тому +239

    Thank god I’m retired now ..geez the things younger people have to go through today …

    • @Chris-t7m5t
      @Chris-t7m5t Місяць тому +27

      Be happy and be very very protective and smart.
      There is a major campaign to bankrupt all retired or anyone trying to be self employed or a side business. One way or another. Assets, real estate, etc.
      Then it's a complete no way you'll be able to get back into employment.

    • @kaibrizbon
      @kaibrizbon Місяць тому

      ​@@Chris-t7m5tit's not just the campaigns for the retired, here in Philly, there is a silent drive to evict and bankrupt the working class in the city, I watched the elderly in retirement apts being slum pushed out or gouged for more money

    • @BrianGivensYtube
      @BrianGivensYtube 28 днів тому +19

      You are probably the only “boomer” that understands the high stakes and hopelessness people my age feel. I’m 26 and I don’t know how I will do this for another 39 years. I’m 5 years into my career and I’m already looking for ways to get out!

    • @JulenneEsquincaTapia
      @JulenneEsquincaTapia 28 днів тому +4

      ​@@BrianGivensYtube this

    • @pearlrichardson4179
      @pearlrichardson4179 23 дні тому +3

      I wish I could afford to retire. I have been financially unstable since being laid off April 2022. These companies don't want to hire people of a certain age even with an awesome resume. They need to get a clue & stop ghosting too. I find that rude & disrespectful. Frankly, I'm tired & burned out from applying but I have no other choice as I won't be opening a business of my own.

  • @sarrjel
    @sarrjel Місяць тому +129

    Job searching really is draining and exhausting. Even when you got a lot of job experiences in a few areas, good credit score, clean driving record and no criminal record, you’re still competing with a thousand people who have the same thing. It’s ridiculous and employers who make you jump through hoops, do zoom calls, 15 minute phone interviews 2 hours worth of assessments when you get there doesn’t help because now they can find out from how you score if you’re even worth hiring and how much to pay you.

    • @Jbig1430
      @Jbig1430 Місяць тому +4

      The issue is your not competing with people. When you ate looking for a job you are looking to work with 2 weeks after that you on to the next job.
      You are only competing with the ats system. It's other factors besides your resume that is used to determine job eligibility.

    • @TheRealNaika
      @TheRealNaika Місяць тому +9

      Its insane when comapnies give you 5-8h home test/projecta to get a job when you been in industry for almost 10y and these decision makers usually not even qualified to test applicant knowledge. Tests should be for junior and graduate roles, not for senior positions... for senior roles interview should be sufficient. Cause you might be doing work for company which u not being compensated for.

    • @turnopsverdsen9578
      @turnopsverdsen9578 Місяць тому +4

      It’s getting much worse as applicants figure out that not only can they use AI to spam thousands of job apps they barely qualify for, but must just to have any chance of actually getting one.

    • @eskoelmwood5936
      @eskoelmwood5936 13 днів тому

      Funny thing. A family member of mine went to prison for 10 years. During that time I gained 3 degrees, while working. I own nothing, he has over 1million in assets. Most of what he has was just given to him. What's worse. I rent my house from him, and he I'd a slumlord. I should have been a criminal.

    • @kbthegoat824
      @kbthegoat824 9 днів тому

      ​@@eskoelmwood5936never a good idea to compare your life to someone else's. Everyone have their trial and tribulation in this life.

  • @Sheepy19801
    @Sheepy19801 Місяць тому +203

    My boomer dad said I need to go into a business , ask for a paper application/store manager, hand them your paper resume. I told him there aren't any jobs you can do this at and you need to go online, but when you do, you will probably never hear from them again.

    • @nightengalenorth6881
      @nightengalenorth6881 Місяць тому +31

      I've only seen one job in the last 12 years where you could go in and ask for a paper application. It was for a local pet store. My mom tried telling me the same thing, even dragged me around to a few locations at the beginning of college. The only one that didn't tell me to apply online was my mom's friend, who still told me that she had already hired everyone she was going to hire for the semester.

    • @natashasullivan4559
      @natashasullivan4559 29 днів тому +18

      Yeah the last time I applied with a paper application was to a clothing store in a mall in... 2014, might have been early 2015? And before that it was my first job at McDonald's in 2012... Not sure why they think people still do paper applications in 2024 😅

    • @Sigil_Firebrand
      @Sigil_Firebrand 28 днів тому

      ​@@natashasullivan4559boomers are genuinely that out of touch with reality, they can't or maybe just won't accept that the world is nothing like when they were our age, and they're the ones that ruined it.

    • @zoroark567
      @zoroark567 28 днів тому +12

      It can still work, but you have to get really lucky, and be in the right market. If you manage to talk to the right manager at the right time in the right company, it's still possible. That being said, it's probably not a strategy I'd recommend because the time and resource investment is sooooo much more than going online. I'd say if there's one place you really want to work or a particular job that you're really interested in, it can be worth a try to go in person, express interest, ask questions. If you manage to have a good conversation with the right person who actually has some pull in hiring, it CAN get you in there. And honestly, if you've been actively searching for several months or even years at this point, it won't make it any worse to try.

    • @Lyladagger02
      @Lyladagger02 21 день тому +2

      I've maybe applied to 2 jobs with a paper application out of the hundreds I've applied to. And both of those were small business Mom and Pop places.

  • @shermanngjazz
    @shermanngjazz 29 днів тому +87

    We're in the "You will own nothing and be happy" stage

    • @DamonCassidy
      @DamonCassidy  29 днів тому +10

      @@shermanngjazz I agree

    • @Rahshu
      @Rahshu 29 днів тому +26

      I'm tired of this comment. It's not true. It's:" You'll own nothing, you'll be miserable, and you won't be able to do shit about it." They're not even hiding it anymore.

    • @dirkz.duggitz1567
      @dirkz.duggitz1567 21 день тому

      It's feudalism (barely) in disguise. The middle and lower class are the peasants and the corporations are the new lords.

    • @LIVdaBrand
      @LIVdaBrand 19 днів тому +2

      @@Rahshuthey don’t care about you-so you shouldn’t care about them.

    • @CultureCrossed64
      @CultureCrossed64 18 днів тому +6

      ​@Rahshu the reason it is stated like that is because of English speaking parents. "You'll have this, and like it."
      Not because we actually expect to like it.

  • @EliParker28
    @EliParker28 29 днів тому +30

    I'm sorry but for majority of Americans, there is no voting. It's either take the job or starve.

  • @ellicesanchez3194
    @ellicesanchez3194 Місяць тому +59

    I don't often apply to a job that doesn't list a salary range. The employer should have an idea of what money they have to pay to the job. If they don't list anything, I assume it is super low and they are trying to waste time.

    • @DamonCassidy
      @DamonCassidy  29 днів тому +9

      I absolutely agree!

    • @alphaomega1351
      @alphaomega1351 19 днів тому +3

      The range is easy to find. Just Google salary for any given position.
      HR uses the exact same sources. With few exceptions, they will likely offer you whatever the midpoint salary is. 😳

    • @JenJenANDChrissy
      @JenJenANDChrissy 11 днів тому +1

      There's a recent law in California that forces all employers to list the salary in the job description. Hopefully more states will follow.

  • @paulblart5358
    @paulblart5358 Місяць тому +59

    Corporatocracy. The rise of greedy and authoritarian corporations. "You will eat the bugs and be happy".

  • @deeshannongarrison5115
    @deeshannongarrison5115 Місяць тому +38

    This will not stop until CEO pay is tied to average employee pay. Maybe if congressional pay was tied to average constituent pay, our legislature would make that happen. Also - good luck to these companies when they're stuck reckoning with a majority Gen Z workforce.

  • @hgrimes9824
    @hgrimes9824 Місяць тому +111

    HR is the most evil thing ever perpetrated against the work force.
    HR departments should be outlawed.

    • @mwwhited
      @mwwhited 29 днів тому +24

      Human Resource are about using humans as a resource now about being a resource for humans. They are 100% about protecting the company not the people.

    • @kiki11974
      @kiki11974 27 днів тому +8

      That’s because HR is not what they used to be 20+ years ago. Now HR is a joke whereas they used to have a voice in how a company actually functioned

    • @hgrimes9824
      @hgrimes9824 27 днів тому

      @@kiki11974 The last time I had to deal with an HR rep. I got fired for being harassed by a female coworker. In addition to that I can't find a layer that will take the case when they sited me being a "forty something year old man". Our system is beyond broken.

    • @girlaffe
      @girlaffe 24 дні тому +4

      People and Culture! Because rebranding helps.

    • @shawnbruce6934
      @shawnbruce6934 17 днів тому +1

      And be replaced by a legal team who actually knows workplace law.

  • @judgewest2000
    @judgewest2000 Місяць тому +79

    Job postings have always been insane. I remember in 2001 a job posting requiring 5+ years of experience in Windows 2000!!! Literally no one alive including the developers could claim that.

    • @ami4511
      @ami4511 Місяць тому +20

      I saw one in 2020 where it asked for 5 years experience in FastAPI. FastAPI was invented in 2018.The creator himself saw the job listing and thought it was funny so he tweeted about how he wouldn't be able to get the job.

    • @judgewest2000
      @judgewest2000 Місяць тому

      @@ami4511 At least you could blame the idiot recruiter for being ignorant as literally the YEAR of creation is not in the title of the product itself lol

    • @ad6417
      @ad6417 Місяць тому

      The HR people and the recruiters are so stupid about what these jobs are they just make shit up.

    • @morganseppy5180
      @morganseppy5180 28 днів тому +7

      These get posted on reddit--so similar... needing 5+ years of various tech that are just a few years old. Comes from ignorant ppl or "disconnected" hiring agent.

    • @rustyscrapper
      @rustyscrapper 25 днів тому +5

      Industrial companies post adds looking for people with experience programming machining software that is proprietary and you can only get if you already work there.

  • @custos3249
    @custos3249 Місяць тому +76

    I just can't get over how often I get contacted by recruiters from companies that passed on my application previously. Why on earth would I waste my time a second time?

    • @raze2012_
      @raze2012_ 27 днів тому +5

      Sometimes its an accident. I was recruited, went through 2 stages, and got rejected. That same recruiter found me on another site months later. Still had his email so I just shot him saying "you want me to try again?"
      They are still human, and dealing with hundreds of others. Unless there's a paper trail (like, responding to me when the chat log above was from months ago) I don't wanna be too hard on simple mistakes like that.

    • @E4439Qv5
      @E4439Qv5 13 днів тому

      ​@@raze2012_it's still obviously sloppy.

    • @invisibleloveone
      @invisibleloveone 8 днів тому +1

      Ugh. Once I had a recruiter tell me a job was filled the day before a second interview. Later the manager asked why I didn't show up for the interview. Yeah, red flag just move on. Especially, if the company is shady and trying to avoid paying an outside recruiter firm by calling you back.

  • @DavidWesley
    @DavidWesley Місяць тому +142

    Glad I’m in a healthcare profession and in a unionized environment. This corporate nonsense is exhausting!

    • @KJPartyof6
      @KJPartyof6 Місяць тому +11

      I've considered making that move over to healthcare but even that seems to be getting corporatized here in FL😢

    • @ulysses7157
      @ulysses7157 Місяць тому +10

      gonna join a trade union myself when I'm done with trade school for HVAC. I am only in the school just to get some time to myself, Learn some skills, and learn about the trade and the options they bring before committing to it. Previous job searches had messed my mind up and I didn't want to get straight back into work. Gotta toughen my mind before going in.

    • @alegwartney1962
      @alegwartney1962 Місяць тому +6

      One thing I found funny is I have turned down interviews. And have been thanked. By hr and recruiters. For not ghosting them out right in the process.
      Not all of them are soulless ass hats….. but it’s still very very slim of a window.

    • @Growmap
      @Growmap Місяць тому +8

      Unions need to be cleaned up of corruption and all employees need a union unless they work for a very ethical privately owned small business. Corporate employees found that out the hard way when corporations took away the pensions we were promised in writing every year for decades. That is when we found out if you don't have a union contract, that promise in writing means nothing.

    • @fullcody1
      @fullcody1 Місяць тому +4

      I work in the steel industry in a non unionized corporation that's one of the biggest steel distributors in America. I had no issues with the hiring process. Didn't have to jump through hoops or anything they take anyone as long as you can use a tape measure and computer and build you up into the worker they need over months. I think it's less about unionization and more about the culture of the corporation and integrity of the people involved

  • @awapowell
    @awapowell 29 днів тому +25

    “It’s a victim mentality.” Wtf. Sounds like this guy in his own way might be a little disconnected. When you’re talking about people just coming out of school, entry level positions, why do you expect them to know any of this? These are not realistic expectations for the average teen.

    • @bugs389
      @bugs389 24 дні тому +9

      Yeah like sure he can give advice on how to "stand out" as a candidate but at the end of the day there's gonna be 1 winner and 100+ losers. We ARE victims of a broken system.

  • @_nimrod92
    @_nimrod92 Місяць тому +53

    All this advice is absolute dog shit, it doesn’t mean anything if the economic environment is trash. If there is no economic prosperity aka competition among companies there simply not going to be a surplus of jobs where it warrants sensible logically hiring practices to take place as such that we currently are asking a ridiculous list of requirements to entry to mid career candidates such as myself have been experiencing. There simply is no jobs to begin with to cater to the massive influx of candidates entering the job market. Companies have plateau with innovation and we can go down the rabbit hole on how we got here all we want but it is not going to change stuff until we as populous demand things to change and idk 🤷‍♂️ how that is going to happen when we have a current system that is making quite difficult to do business as in terms as here in the US.

    • @zacklewis342
      @zacklewis342 28 днів тому

      Or maybe you can't get hired because you can't even spell or write properly...

    • @raze2012_
      @raze2012_ 27 днів тому +7

      I felt bits of this during 35:00, but I understand the spirit of what he's saying here. Sometimes you can do nothing wrong and lose, and that's basically this job market right now.
      However, just because no one is hiring now doesn't mean they won't be hiring later. This BS happens in cycles. If we're in an ebb, hunker down and survive, but then prep yourself for the flow. If there's no art jobs, work on your portfolio. Make sure you don't look rusty once the economy (that we pretend is goo) is actually good.
      Also, VOTE!. Make sure your reps know this is a pressing issue and that they need to do something about it if they want another term.

    • @_nimrod92
      @_nimrod92 27 днів тому +4

      @@raze2012_ Couldn’t have said it any better. I don’t want to come out as being all negative and thats is it the world is cooked and to give up all together, on the contrary lets be realistic here the economy is dog shit due to bad policies affecting it. I have noticed that all the companies that I have been hired at in the past have hired me because they were forced to hire because they were loosing out to other companies candidates. I have to acknowledge that yes there are people out there with resumes that are incredibly well nurtured but I am not one those people since I haven’t gotten to have the chance to build a career trajectory that can make me as lucrative as them due this constant pummeling of bad economic waves of me trying to break into such as my industry which is tech where even in tough economic times I would have the industry connections or appeal to jump into a role without going months if not years without a job. Brian gives some incredible career advice but in my view companies do not hire out of kindness they hire because the force and strength of market presses them to do so.

    • @skyblazeeterno
      @skyblazeeterno 18 днів тому

      Tell me a time when there has EVER been more jobs than unemployed

    • @_nimrod92
      @_nimrod92 18 днів тому

      @@skyblazeeterno 2012-2021 never had a problem getting a job till now.

  • @robertusa1234
    @robertusa1234 Місяць тому +33

    Amazon built a data center outside of Washington DC and is currently looking for HVAC techs and electricians I have been offered the same job by 4 different recruiters for less money then I currently make and would require me to move to the most expensive place to live on the east cost. They also want 12hr rotation shifts. Good luck that’s a firm no

    • @pbailed8007
      @pbailed8007 28 днів тому

      Stay strong you’re making the right decision. Amazon can afford to pay its employees acceptable respectable wage , they choose not to so that greedy piece of 💩 can spend billions on his newest wife…

  • @roastbeef4918
    @roastbeef4918 Місяць тому +68

    As I sit here at 26 doing manual labor for $1K a week. No benefits, no insurance, no retirement, no holiday pay, and constantly traveling. I am still wondering what I am supposed to be building towards when I dont know if I actually have a chance to buy property or a work truck.

    •  Місяць тому +19

      I suggest you work towards a better trade or craft that will allow you to move out of the US and be a profitable member of their society because this one is toast. I hate to say it but the US is overstretched so it is bound to do a massive recoil which could be catastrophic don't be around when it happens.

    • @TEMindset83702
      @TEMindset83702 Місяць тому +5

      The trades need hardworking people like you. Check out your local community college, which may provide training in trades, such as HVAC, plumbing, electrical, and automotive.

    • @DamonCassidy
      @DamonCassidy  29 днів тому +2

      What do you think the likelihood is of that happening?

    • @DamonCassidy
      @DamonCassidy  29 днів тому +2

      I feel the same! Work trucks are unbelievably expensive and almost considering a 1980 gmc sierra because that’s so much more affordable than any recent used truck haha

    • @roastbeef4918
      @roastbeef4918 29 днів тому +4

      @DamonCassidy currently driving a 1994 Ford myself

  • @NathanSmutz
    @NathanSmutz 29 днів тому +48

    If a job gets yanked after you travel and before you start, that’s legally “promisory estoppel”

    • @watamatafoyu
      @watamatafoyu 24 дні тому +1

      Do companies get prosecuted for that?

    • @NathanSmutz
      @NathanSmutz 24 дні тому +10

      @@watamatafoyu Listen more to a real lawyer rather than to me who just took a business-law class; but promises become enforceable when you give up something, or in this case, do something that sacrifices other options relying on the promise being kept. The simplest case is giving money to the person who made the promise; but here someone’s incurred costs of moving and/or gave up opportunities they’d have had if they remained where they were.
      Of course, suing over stuff like this costs money; and you have to weigh that and your chances of winning.

    • @anotherinternetperson7410
      @anotherinternetperson7410 14 днів тому +3

      Only in certain jurisdictions like California. Elsewhere it’s not

    • @nurlindafsihotang49
      @nurlindafsihotang49 5 днів тому

      Bruv...even in Indonesia, 3rd world "poor" country, the HR could be prosecuted for that.

    • @anotherinternetperson7410
      @anotherinternetperson7410 4 дні тому

      @@nurlindafsihotang49 not in American capitalism 😜

  • @Wrighjj
    @Wrighjj Місяць тому +62

    Retired now. This is what I've observed with ghost jobs: 1) Companies used to have actually post a job before they could get an H1b candidate. Posts would be made with low pay but huge skill requirements. They did not want anyone to really apply. 2) Competitive programs with DOD would have 3 or 4 competing companies posting similar jobs although only one would ever have the contract. The award is often delayed or never happens, but when there is an award they need to hit the ground running. btw, Department of Labor tracks the job postings and concludes that there is a desperate shortage of people with these skills. 3) The only way to see resumes is to post a job. Hiring manager wanting to see what's out there will post a position for everything from a summer intern to a senior staff scientist for a particular skill just to see what's out there. Often, after drawing in a stack of resumes they will decide to hire no one. Department of Labor again. I've witnessed all of these in my career.

    • @50PullUps
      @50PullUps Місяць тому +5

      3) The only way to see resumes is to post a job?
      That doesn't quite smell right. Employers can see lots and lots of semi-public resumes on indeed without posting a job.

    • @vonb2792
      @vonb2792 17 днів тому +1

      In the Venture Capital and Tech would your financing is matched with the Amount of hiring going on... You Hire because you productive and full of projets making you successful... Yup Found out that hiring before Landing the "deal" allowed to get money first and a deal after..

  • @marlandkennedy7747
    @marlandkennedy7747 Місяць тому +78

    We know the problems, what are the solutions.

    • @Daveyjonesvi
      @Daveyjonesvi Місяць тому +15

      Laws to regulate labor

    • @niamhleeson3522
      @niamhleeson3522 Місяць тому +35

      The first step is understanding that the United States is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.
      The business cycle (where the economy goes into a crisis every 5-7 years) is not just about economic crisis. Recessions are a process where small companies go out of business and get acquired by big businesses for pennies on the dollar. Poor people (that's us) sell any stocks we might have accumulated to get by after we're laid off. Then rich people who still have money left over even in a recession can buy them for cheap. That's not all, though. The government also bails out the big corporations to the tune of billions. The end result is that the rich get richer and we get screwed. Greed is an ongoing process and a few hundred people having all the money is the result.
      The government we have now is obligated to act in the interest of these companies. Financing the MIC, performing military and covert operations to keep markets open for companies, not passing laws that would benefit the people at the expense of the companies. Any reform or regulation can only benefit the people to the extent that it doesn't hurt the companies. That's why reform isn't a viable path to solving the underlying problems.

    • @maccurtis730
      @maccurtis730 Місяць тому +3

      Find a way to cheat the system.

    • @sanshinobi3664
      @sanshinobi3664 Місяць тому +2

      To butcher Brian's catchphrase, you gotta become the CEO of You, Inc., id est, treat your career like a business. Depending on your talent and passion, it might be time to start a literal business. Supporting the small ones also helps.

    • @sanshinobi3664
      @sanshinobi3664 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@niamhleeson3522
      With all due respect, if all you know of economics is Marxist talking points, then you have much to unlearn before you can even begin learning.

  • @oro88
    @oro88 23 дні тому +14

    I'm 2 months into new job hunt (got struck with "we're changing structures, btw, your agreement runs out, totally unrelated") and had one very promising job - gone through 3 interviews, prepered like hell, brought my own materials to each interview. Today got email from someone who came back from holiday with "oh, I talked to the team, they decided on someone else, did you get any feedback?". It crushed me. I'm so fucking done with job hunting, it's so fucking pointless.

  • @SetariM
    @SetariM Місяць тому +66

    Man, I can't even plan my own life 2 weeks in advance much less years these days. The advice at the end of the video is nice, but most people don't make "careers" out of dead-end customer service work, which is what most people are working in. I don't think there's much to be done concerning "job strategy in finding a job" when all the cards are held in employers' hands. You can only put in so much "strategy" before it's completely out of your hands. Edit: Also this dude is really up on the flowery office lingo. He says almost nothing meaningful toward your questions, it feels like, after listening to this whole video.

    • @TheRealNaika
      @TheRealNaika Місяць тому +1

      Customer service u have to change vompanies and climb the managers ladder, once u at top like regional manager then it becomes waiting game till executive retires and hope they hire internally, which most dont xd

    • @safetyegg6953
      @safetyegg6953 Місяць тому +8

      Yes, you can tell this guy only ever thinks about the corporate echelons of the job market. Like probably less then 1% of the population is even a part of that world. Video wasent for people like me I guess.

    • @zoroark567
      @zoroark567 28 днів тому +3

      I think having a plan is great in theory, but yeah my experience has been much more "I have to take whatever I can get because I can't afford to spend another 6+ months looking for a job I actually want." Once you have your feet planted in an industry, I think that advice becomes much more relevant. However, as a new grad, the strategy pretty much always has to start with "get job x" and the fact is being the grad who actually gets that job comes down so much more to luck than anything else.
      As someone else who's dealt with a layoff, I tried to apply the same analysis, but it doesn't really track. We were all trained and put into the systems, then told to wait for an assignment. I got up every day, checked emails and messages, self-taught trainings for hours, checked internal job postings. In my year with the company there wasn't a single project posting I could have applied to. In my last month or so, the internal project portal stopped working entirely, and when I brought it up with my managers and mentors, the advice was to fill out a ticket, keep trying, and wait. I was laid off before it was ever fixed.

    • @raze2012_
      @raze2012_ 27 днів тому +4

      It sucks, but you do need to plan years in advance. If you're stuck in customer service, start picking up a skill on the side, and figure out what you need to do to get a job. And it will take years in skill building or networking or anything else. You'll be competing against fresh college students who had 4 years to hone their skills.
      You shouldn't have to do this, but we're stuck in a ditch. All we can do is try to climb out and not waste energy being angry at whoever threw you down there.

    • @spazzpeddlerclosing
      @spazzpeddlerclosing 16 днів тому

      yeah the guest was trying to not appear like he wasnt the reason himself. ..probably his maturity level hasnt incresed with his experience and age so he is an example of failing up..and what entitled can look like

  • @Jbig1430
    @Jbig1430 Місяць тому +19

    I understand you saying people are missing skills but the issue is not skills. I have skills from every level up to regional management and every role up to that position both management and non management.
    I have more skills then i can even write but even with all that i am unable to get a basis customer service job.

  • @ALifeAfterLayoff
    @ALifeAfterLayoff Місяць тому +101

    Had a lot of fun with this conversation!

    • @KJPartyof6
      @KJPartyof6 Місяць тому +6

      Thanks for the input!

    • @troywalkertheprogressivean8433
      @troywalkertheprogressivean8433 Місяць тому +1

      Y'all are still new to me but cool to see the collab. 😎👍

    • @TheBigRedMachine54
      @TheBigRedMachine54 Місяць тому +7

      Dude it bothers me how much fault you try to place on the individual job seeker, when this is clearly a flawed system we’re in

    • @TheBigRedMachine54
      @TheBigRedMachine54 Місяць тому +5

      It doesn’t help to think about where you fucked up 5 or 10 years ago, people still deserve a living wage

    • @Hemlock120
      @Hemlock120 Місяць тому +2

      The value you share in these conversations are unmatched - ignore those people who continue to have a victim mindset - we need to accept reality for what it is and play the game. To those who want to argue & try to cast doubts on the work you do: "You're right, you'll never win" - for those who want results, seriously consider what Bryan shares

  • @atlantic_love
    @atlantic_love 27 днів тому +19

    I'm out. 22:45 into the video and it's become a sob fest defending recruiters. Recruiters are part of the problem.

    • @GratitudeDay
      @GratitudeDay 23 дні тому +4

      Yeah I’m at 17:56 and like WTF.

    • @spazzpeddlerclosing
      @spazzpeddlerclosing 16 днів тому +2

      how is he a recruiter that cant get another job? oh because he wasnt teachable and wasnt motivated to compete for better positions at amazon lol

  • @Stalingarde
    @Stalingarde Місяць тому +18

    I do like Bryan's Channel but I do heavily disagree with his advice at the end. I am 29 and have a fairly well rounded work history, but I've had the rug pulled out from under me and now I'm rebuilding my life in a new state. In my healing process, I learned that the corporate crap isn't worth it and I'm more focused on enjoying life. I've taken jobs that I (mostly) enjoy and keep an eye out on for my dream field even if it may be a niche . Life often changes in involuntary ways and I really don't think many people can upend their lives to get trainings or internships (I certainly didn't.)

    • @pjessence
      @pjessence 8 днів тому +1

      I resonate, and am also 29

  • @GratitudeDay
    @GratitudeDay 23 дні тому +12

    No, we don’t need to chill out. These companies need to administer their job postings. That’s their job. I’ve been fired for less!

  • @awapowell
    @awapowell 29 днів тому +16

    The ‘rules to the game’ are what’s wrong. Saying it’s not likely to change IS enabling crooked shit to continue.

  • @shrooms33
    @shrooms33 Місяць тому +66

    I found this to be disappointing. All I kept hearing was it is your fault for not getting hired. Because you didn't show up with all the training you could posably need for that possition. And how dare you not be able to purchase that training and certificates or diploma to prove you can do the job. You should have had a road plan to get those.

    • @custos3249
      @custos3249 Місяць тому +9

      Yep. Just look at psych, the one field you'd think would known better. Every population is undeserved, we're hemorrhaging talent left and right as people retire or leave otherwise, but what does psych do? Open available seats? Offer more accredited programs? Maintain sensible entry criteria? Nope. Last I checked the programs that align with my theoretical orientation, 3.7GPA, 3-4 letters of recommendation, ample research experience, extra curriculars, and a glowing statement of purpose. And $200-300 in application fees, plus interviews. And you don't dare mention any experiences on the other side of the proverbial couch.

    • @SurpriseMeJT
      @SurpriseMeJT Місяць тому +10

      Yep, you're supposed to know the market, it's demands and fulfill those requirements using your own money. You take the monetary and time risk and if it doesn't pan out, it's your fault.
      I didn't buy into this certifcation collection game. It's BS. When I enter a work environment, things are done by culture and any Agile or ITIL based plan is loosely followed only in name to please executives.

    • @safetyegg6953
      @safetyegg6953 Місяць тому +13

      Yeah he's basically saying the system is rigged and you have to take part in the system, so hold your nose and just eat the shit that they put in front of you.

    • @pisceanbeauty2503
      @pisceanbeauty2503 9 днів тому

      @@safetyegg6953 That is a reality to a certain extent if you want money in the short term.

    • @osric729
      @osric729 4 дні тому +1

      ​@@SurpriseMeJTagile is hilarious. It only works if you have a team that would've done fine without it anyway!

  • @eatright909
    @eatright909 Місяць тому +95

    Bruh. What strategies are you talking about? The only strategy is how am i gonna make next month rent without committing end-game.
    We need money. We need more money. Not some corporate talk about how to plan life strategically before you turn 12. People are not going to spend their precious little time they have after their overworked job and after life duties to plan some scenario that might happen with $14 in their bank account. Is selling drugs on the street considered a strategy? Cause that pays. How can we strategize when getting a job largely luck-based, timing, and who you know? I got my first job through a reference that worked at that particular place. Since then, I continue to lie and fluff up my resume to make it seem I did more when, in reality, I was just a retail employee. It's all bullshit. And I'm subscribed to him. This was largely disappointing. I was expecting more. I guess the only thing i got out of this is that i need to learn how to speak corporate without wanting to commit end-life.

    • @valuedcustomer2373
      @valuedcustomer2373 Місяць тому +10

      I'm with you. I haven't seen the show but a couple of minutes. But $ jobs rent 14 dollars in the bank it's a fucking joke

    • @cricketycrickets3141
      @cricketycrickets3141 Місяць тому +8

      The only strategy to put you in CEO chair is to fall out of privileged vajaijai

    • @swaggery
      @swaggery Місяць тому +8

      There are things you can do at every experience level to try to give yourself an edge. Unfortunately for him, and career coaches, they tend to only focus on senior level employees. Because the truth is as a junior to mid level employee your options for owning your career are extremely limited. You lack skill, a network, brand. All those things usually take close to a decade to develop. Unless you just job hop like crazy.

    • @swaggery
      @swaggery Місяць тому +14

      The truth is for some people they can do everything right and they will never find success also. That's what a tight job market is suppose to result in. If there are more people than jobs, it's impossible anywhere close to everybody gets hired.

    • @custos3249
      @custos3249 Місяць тому +7

      Right there with ya. End of my rope, as they say.

  • @safetyegg6953
    @safetyegg6953 Місяць тому +16

    guy gives the most generic advice. "You should have a strategy for your career. And you should have had a strategy during the start of your career." And no elaboration on that. I assume by strategy he means you should have got a job that promoted better or wouldn't lay you off. So, great advice, very useful. Also this meathead really likes to ramble on.

    • @raze2012_
      @raze2012_ 27 днів тому +1

      I mean, generic advice works for a generic audience. What strategy you need as a tech worker vs. a musician vs. Being stuck on minimum wage labor varies immensely.
      The only shared ideas here is thst a road map helps. Find a road map and use that to make your own plans. Times suck right now, but of there's really zero jobs : plan for when jobs pop up again. Or re-train if you genuinely think jobs are never coming back. I don't think you need your entire career planned at 22 (i had plans shift immensely and I'm not even 30 yet), but a plan helps keep you on track.

    • @georgeromey4971
      @georgeromey4971 4 дні тому

      What he doesn’t tell you it’s a numbers game. You’ve got to pump out endless resumes and go on endless interviews often getting your hopes up after a good interview and positive feedback. The process is grueling and soul crushing.

  • @Sonyemman97
    @Sonyemman97 29 днів тому +12

    25:02 I think there needs to be more of a culture of naming and shaming employers. We live in a society where employers can treat massive scores of candidates like trash and it should be reciprocated. People need to continue to be more vocal about the disgusting people and practices that arise during the job search. Companies respond to press. Branding is extremely valuable for companies and there needs to be fair repercussions for this actions.

  • @EshkinKott1
    @EshkinKott1 Місяць тому +75

    Not true is that the first job is hardest to find. Actually it is your last job. Try to find a job when you are 56 yo and 9 years before retirement.

    • @SurpriseMeJT
      @SurpriseMeJT Місяць тому +18

      Agism is so hard right now. Even me in my mid 40's am feeling like I'm starting to feel aged out working in IT/software. Unless you're a master in your expertise (which I am not), it's a tough road.

    • @1queijocas
      @1queijocas Місяць тому +11

      @@SurpriseMeJT They don't want inexperienced employees as well as too experienced. It doesn't make sense but hiring is incentivised to be full of legal discriminations

    • @TheRealNaika
      @TheRealNaika Місяць тому +2

      ​@@SurpriseMeJT if u been in industry for 15+ years why u not master in your field?

    • @blackpearl9504
      @blackpearl9504 Місяць тому +11

      ​@@1queijocasthis, I'm sorry. But the plight of young versus seasoned employee is pretty much even.
      Both are sending in 100+ applications with nothing in return. The young lacks experience, and you don't want to spend the money to train them. The elder has too much, which means you have to pay them more than you want to. So neither gets hired..
      This is what happens when the market is in your favor. And there's more people than there are jobs. So you can be stupidly picky. Because you got 500+ applications for one single position. And you want to spend the least amount of money possible on your employees. We are all at their Mercy.

    • @sammyjones8279
      @sammyjones8279 Місяць тому +2

      Companies don't want anyone with less than 10 years of experience... However that often puts them in their mid 30s, which means they'd likely have hire salary expectations. So they'll go to the person in their 50s and offer them half of what they deserve, knowing that they're likely looking for anyone who would take them.
      The system just works! :D

  • @ellah2734
    @ellah2734 14 днів тому +15

    The more I get older, I’m realizing no one is really an 'adult/grownup'. We are all just winging it.

  • @nsb9999
    @nsb9999 29 днів тому +11

    Why even bother applying for jobs if it’s all fake? I have given up.

  • @hgrimes9824
    @hgrimes9824 Місяць тому +19

    I have a better idea. Why doesn't everyone just take three weeks off? If eeveryone took three weeks and did nothing, these corporate assholes would have to beg workers to come back. It would also throw a wrench in the gears of the political hacks too.

    • @jackcarraway4707
      @jackcarraway4707 28 днів тому +7

      We had a strategy like that; it's called striking.

    • @raze2012_
      @raze2012_ 27 днів тому +3

      ​@@jackcarraway4707you're both right. It's called a general strike. And it would work if we could actually coordinate it.
      That coordination even amidst a single city would be incredibly difficult though. Keep in mind that US national elections have the highest turnout and 100s of billions built into advertising. And the last turnout in 2020 was 70%.
      People just lazy AF and settle into what they find comfortable. 70% of a city striking would do the trick, but we wouldn't get anywhere close to that amount.

    • @rustyscrapper
      @rustyscrapper 25 днів тому +1

      actually their solution is
      MIGRANTS MORE MIGRANTS MORE MIGRANTS MORE MIGRANTS!

    • @rustyscrapper
      @rustyscrapper 25 днів тому +1

      I find that employers are not interested in building a relationship at all.
      When they call for an interview I get someone from india with a brutal accent asking me the stupidest questions for 20 minutes then they are like "ok now it's a mystery we might or might not contact you again dont call us!
      6 weeks later another phone call "do you have experiwnce operating a CAT 2650 A2 long stick 2018 surveyor auto leveler bulldozer?
      And I'll be like no I operated a CAT 2650 auto leveler normal stick.
      And they will be like "oh I'm sorry your not qualified *click*
      3 weeks later "We have an opening, it's $26 hour combo vac in anzac"
      I'm like wait I thought I wasn't qualified why are you offering me this job now???

    • @hgrimes9824
      @hgrimes9824 25 днів тому

      @rustyscrapper At least you get responses. I've got businesses being chewed out by their parent corporations for not following their own recruiting policies. Most won't say anything to you one way or the other and the ones that do, want you to sign over your life to them for 30% fair market wage. These people are evil and sick.

  • @kamys6133
    @kamys6133 Місяць тому +21

    I've been through a few mass layoffs. Why aren't companies looking within to keep people when layoffs are happening? They tell you, if you see something please apply and yet they are never considered. It's a joke!!!

    • @Growmap
      @Growmap Місяць тому +3

      I don't know how it is now, but when I was at IBM I knew a guy who got laid off 3x and found another position 3x. But he lived in a big city where we also had plants and that really helped him out. I never got laid off and could have stayed until 30+ years. But at 23 years in 2000, I finally resigned in disgust and never looked back. Been freelancing ever since.

  • @MagicEye117
    @MagicEye117 Місяць тому +14

    Ill never understand this. Management mismanage the company, but the people below them get let go.

    • @DamonCassidy
      @DamonCassidy  29 днів тому +1

      Yes it’s absolutely ridiculous! Makes no sense at all

  • @charliedallachie3539
    @charliedallachie3539 Місяць тому +10

    33:00 ehhh it’s like saying why didn’t you buy a stock or house back then…or why didn’t you sail your boat out of X storm. Not everyone is psychic or can predict the future.
    If I knew bitcoin would take off In 2010, I’d buy 50 bitcoin when it was cheap

  • @williamkinkade2538
    @williamkinkade2538 Місяць тому +11

    It's all about money for stockholders and chief executives everyone else is Expendable!

  • @jennifertarin4707
    @jennifertarin4707 Місяць тому +13

    I had that happen. I was offered a job, borrowed the money to move, packed up, and moved 3,000 miles only to have the offer recinded less than 24 hoirs before i was supposed to start. Needless to say, i was pretty pissed off and blasted her for her terrible behavior. I then had to borrow MORE money to pay my rent because my part time, minimum wage job didn't cover my rent.

  • @hgrimes9824
    @hgrimes9824 Місяць тому +11

    Hiring managers are a waste of space and labor costs these days. Most of them do not do their jobs.

  • @panda99999999999
    @panda99999999999 Місяць тому +15

    I love the extra insight behind the curtain. It's comforting to know that there are actual people behind the masks that we hate, and genuine humanity and empathy exist, even in roles like theirs.
    I really can't agree with the advice given at the end, it's just not realistic. Imagine it, you're 18, just graduated high school. You probably have a ton of misconceptions about, well, just about everything. You probably don't understand how many things work (system-wise) for companies and organizations in general. You may or may not have a passion for a particular hobby, and yet the problem with job careers is that they didn't plan on working at a company 5-10 years ago, strategize and work on molding themselves into an ideal candidate for them?
    I'm sorry, that's either advice given solely to the few people dead set on a career, even after clearing up misconceptions, or people who have the freedom to take a broader approach to their careers, which isn't really relevant or applicable to anyone not going to college in this day and age. Realistically, most people in that situation are not in a position to be picky, and depending on their support network, may only be concerned with the ability the job gives them to feed and house themselves (which even currently, isn't guaranteed).
    Combine that with how power dynamics work in these situations, and how easy it is to lay off workers on a whim, and it's doesn't take much to figure out why newer entrants to the labor market aren't willing to tolerate the things that older generations take for granted. Eventually, some of those generation will have to enter leadership roles, especially when the labor market thins out as the oldest generation is either finally retiring or dying at their desks.

  • @clericstorm2009
    @clericstorm2009 16 днів тому +2

    It's so hypocritical that companies say working in office is so important yet many execs work away from the office most of the time and they outsource jobs to other countries with no problem?

  • @TMJ40
    @TMJ40 29 днів тому +7

    One word… nepotism

  • @williamread8186
    @williamread8186 Місяць тому +10

    You might find what Rubyard Lynch has to say about this quite relevant. There is a lot to unpack with what he says but he says we have been in an environment of labor surpluses for quite awhile which of course encourages this kind of behavior from corporations. He ties all this back to an experiment by calhoun called the mice utopia. Where the population of mice grew to within 33% of its carrying capacity and then population collapsed and mental dysfunction skyrocketed along with mice no longer procreating. A lot of what you are seeing today seems to be following this trajectory with declining marriages and birthrates huge increases in mental illnesses etc.

    • @DamonCassidy
      @DamonCassidy  29 днів тому +2

      Yes I absolutely agree! I would love to talk with him! Hoping to get him on the channel soon

  • @isaiahfuller670
    @isaiahfuller670 Місяць тому +27

    Dude's talking about strategy like a religion. None of that was useful.
    Clicked through and found out he's a self help guy. Figures.

  • @heatherthurber4695
    @heatherthurber4695 6 годин тому

    My manager used to be a peer, she only agreed to take the manager job if her position was backfilled and she took lesser pay to get that agreement. Immediately after moving up the CTO rejected that deal but did agree to hiring someone in a different role in our team. After only receiving Visa applicants (our company will not sponsor or pay for moving expenses AND requires in office), another round enabled us to find someone who was willing to get their own Visa. On the day, the offer was submitted to HR, the company initiated lay offs and the position was eliminated. The applicant who had gone through 3 interviews, was told the position no longer exists. That to me was the worst corporate behavior. They broke every promise to my manager and there were no consequences.

  • @heartlessmadness8812
    @heartlessmadness8812 Місяць тому +13

    You also have to take into consideration that there are a lot of under qualified hiring managers who does the bare minimum and only got that position based on WHO they knew and feel threatened by someone who has a stacked resume. Some won’t even bring them to the interview process and if they do, they will not hire you because of fear of losing their job. I see it happening all the time here in Columbia SC!!!

    • @kaijuultimax9407
      @kaijuultimax9407 Місяць тому +2

      I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the hiring manager and general manager of every place I've ever worked at shared the same last name

  • @srenlarsen3148
    @srenlarsen3148 29 днів тому +4

    The problem is misinformation say one thing online on job platforms.
    Say another when you talk to HR.
    Say another when you show up.
    3 times misinformation and how long do that hold for any human in the World.
    Just thing about that, how many times will you accept this?

  • @shougoh
    @shougoh Місяць тому +6

    Just a reminder to brush up on the french revolution

    • @spazzpeddlerclosing
      @spazzpeddlerclosing 16 днів тому +1

      nice but extortion first..start with the worst ceo's go hard on them then see if others got the message.

  • @bobywowzow6593
    @bobywowzow6593 28 днів тому +7

    Crazy how bad things are even for people with engineering degrees

    • @karlregan5276
      @karlregan5276 14 днів тому

      Engineering has svcked for decades. Management looks at engineers as a marginally necessary evil, though they create the products the company sells. And they are often paid far less than the a$$ sitters in management.

    • @astralarchaeology5840
      @astralarchaeology5840 11 днів тому

      💯

  • @jakoblindelof92
    @jakoblindelof92 Місяць тому +11

    It is not only getting the interview, once they actually call you back the long process begins. First a 15 min phone call, then a first interview at the spot, then a secon interview with one more middle manager, the personality tests from the HR department. 2 tests like spatial and also personality. Then a final interview, if you even get that far.

    • @kaijuultimax9407
      @kaijuultimax9407 Місяць тому +4

      And all of that to be a cashier at Office Depot

    • @ALT3REDB3AST
      @ALT3REDB3AST 29 днів тому +1

      Then an offer letter and waiting for a start date that never arrives......

  • @lak1294
    @lak1294 18 днів тому +2

    Really good stuff. EVERYTHING is broken right now - jobs, politics, housing, mental health, etc. What ISN'T on the list?

  • @alegwartney1962
    @alegwartney1962 Місяць тому +12

    Also I can state my own mom who is hr who does hiring for her company. Used recruiters etc. and they can’t find people to work because there ceo refuses to pay a living wage for the positions…… them selfs. All because of greed…
    I also heard a manager for a company in a call center. Say the same thing about not taking the trash from a bother team….
    This moron also tried to become the director.
    Lucky the management at the time. Heard all of this and made sure to get rid of him as fast as possible……

  • @AaronArnoldaquapod
    @AaronArnoldaquapod 20 днів тому +3

    He lost me towards the end. He's saying the hurting managers are disconnected. Dude, he's also part of the disconnect. What kid is really looking at market trends other than, "What makes the most money that I wanna do" Sure, some do. But according to reality people generally take any job they can. We were taught that if you work a job that was good enough. And as I've gotten older getting a job requires having more requirements than getting into Harvard.
    We're talking about jobs that didn't require degrees just ten or twenty years ago. These jobs kept their older employees with fewer qualifications. And they can't hire the new generation unless they over qualify.
    The logic behind the job seeking process is so overwhelming.
    And what is this "entrepreneur mindset" an entrepreneur doesn't work a job, he makes jobs.
    I know I know, this isn't going to matter to anyone in hiring. But hey, it's the truth. It wasn't really like this. And the qualification inflation is just that.

  • @eravulgaris211
    @eravulgaris211 21 день тому +3

    The practical tips for navigating is where you got me. "You should've started 5 years ago".
    Gtfo with that shit. The standarda are too high and people are lying about their experience. The realest thing you should be telling people is lie on the resumes. The idea that anyone is going to get through this by telling the truth is bullshit.
    They're already moving the goal posts, respond in kind.

    • @UberHeroMystic
      @UberHeroMystic 18 днів тому

      You can lie up to the point where the recruiter or hiring manager asks you to explain in detail the steps about a bullet on your resume that you lied about. Then you’re toast. The only thing you can really lie about and get away with is your GPA.

  • @UberHeroMystic
    @UberHeroMystic 18 днів тому +4

    Its even hard for career switchers with multiple degrees trying to start something new. I just got an MBA from a pretty good program and I feel like it’s better for me to just start my own business instead of desperately try to get noticed to have even a shot at opportunity to build skills in the new career path im targeting. And it’s a real shame too because im nobody’s dummy. I have two engineering degrees on top of it but “LOL NOT THE RIGHT EXPERIENCE” is all recruiters see. Well ok. I’m smart and competent enough to do my own thing. Don’t beg me years later to come work for you. I tried. Many many times.

    • @spazzpeddlerclosing
      @spazzpeddlerclosing 16 днів тому +1

      they want someone they can hire then fire and pay less ..also if youre without a job then it means to many engineers in the world lol

    • @UberHeroMystic
      @UberHeroMystic 16 днів тому

      @@spazzpeddlerclosing you misunderstand. I left engineering.

    • @karlregan5276
      @karlregan5276 14 днів тому

      Its all B.S. it's all who you know - your skills and actual worth be darned.

  • @cecilywright6424
    @cecilywright6424 29 днів тому +3

    In a creative field. 3 months of daily applications and still unemployed.

  • @xdeadlyoverlordxstreaming
    @xdeadlyoverlordxstreaming Місяць тому +7

    The problem with society’s employers is literally too many fingers in the pie making it a soup.
    The people came for pie, not soup.
    To make this a little more intellectual, there’s too many people in upper management trying to dictate what everybody’s doing, and let leads to extreme micromanagement, like with my job.
    There are Hundreds of higher-ups that gatekeep When it comes to moving up in a company now.
    On top of that, They have turned the working class into a fight pit, where only the most loyal peasants get to keep their job if they keep their mouth shut and don’t buck.
    Employers have no need for being loyal to their employees anymore. Hence, the reason you see pensions have been turned into useless 401(k)s.
    At every single Avenue that the working citizen tries to keep their life running on, corporations have found a way to monopolize and cease control over the middle and lower classes funds through addictive, additives, and positive reinforcement, loops to keep people sedated.
    The American people need to start looking at the United States as a giant testing laboratory, stop looking at society as if it’s not a complete lie.
    What has happened as we are following in the footsteps of the rat utopia experiments.
    What needs to happen is the people need to stand up and force these giant monopolized companies to break back down into singular entities and let them run their own courses.
    Corporations need to be broken apart and their subsidiary freed to make their own decisions.
    It’s time the people took back their power from all the corporations and incorporated subsidiaries.
    The big market corporations are the ones that got us into this predicament And it is the big corporations like Blackrock, And Vanguard who are asset management companies that are the ones that are driving up the costs of everything.
    Black rock and Vanguard on 90% of the market and asset management revenue. Which in poor people slang means They get paid to make sure that their shareholders make a profit.
    And who do these companies manage the assets of? Why every brand all across America that is not a mom and pop business or family business.
    If every company that you manage the assets of pay you to make sure that their profitable, that means that you can raise everyone’s prices all at once to make sure you squeeze out the most from the people who buy those products, a.k.a. we the majority people.
    What needs to happen is the rise of family owned businesses and local businesses, these big conglomerates need to be starved and disassembled for the good of the nation and the people .
    We are the people also need to start passing some laws that are enforced by the state and feds.
    We all grew up with the game, called Monopoly, and you won by bullying everyone else off of the map with your money, be that buying them out, or continuously trying to bankrupt the other players on the game board so that they are forced to sell their properties for a fraction of the cost to buy them.
    We are living in a society monopoly, where all of the big corporations and financial institutions have seized complete control over our society and now our writing the rules in which we get to play by.
    I think it’s time we take back our power and force these giant corporations and subsidiaries to break apart and have to become little companies again.
    And fix our fucking FDA to meet the same standards as the Foreign countries like Japan.
    Which that is another example of corporate overreach that is as plain as day, when tobacco companies took over our food industry, they focused on making our food, more addicting and unhealthy, so they can sell our poor peoples, dying and disease stricken bodies into the corporatized healthcare system that takes advantage of us and strips us of our natural health by putting us on thousands of different medication‘s to treat us for a lifetime instead of curing the problem at its source.
    Then we have medical bills we have to pay on top of all the other bills we have to pay.
    And then, when you die, your family gets to pay your debts that you left behind because you couldn’t keep up.
    Society, we live in as indentured servitude with no loyalty to the peasants whatsoever.
    We are living in a dystopian future where the employers could give less of a rats ass if their employees die, in fact, there are companies like Dow oil, and Walmart to name a few, that uses their own employees medical records to place bets on whether they’re going to die sooner or later, at which point they pull out life insurance policies on those employees and don’t tell them or their families about that and when they die, they collect free money for their corporation.
    And not a dime gets to be seen by the family members who lost their loved one in the process.
    If that’s not corporate greed, I don’t know what is.
    I’m not saying tear the whole system down I’m saying we need to put Laws in place that make these corporations play by set of rules that forces them to be honest, and the fines need to be jacked up so that these big corporations actually feel the hurt that they inflict upon the rest of the world.
    When you’re a multi billion dollar corporation you don’t feel the sting of $2 million fine.
    If you want to punish that company, take 50% of their assets and hit them with a very happy fine they have to pay or they forfeiture their entire company.
    It’s time we the people start playing hardball with companies and employers, it’s time we take back the power that is due to the people
    It’s time to bring the United States back into the light where it belongs instead of covered in a dank and dark miasma where these corporate overlords choke us out of every dollar and penny that we have working class people until we have nothing left to give

    • @DisposableSupervillainHenchman
      @DisposableSupervillainHenchman 29 днів тому +2

      Well said. We desperately need another Teddy Roosevelt to tell our modern JP Morgan’s that he doesn’t want to “Fix it up.” TR had the balls to force the coal barons of the day to negotiate with the strikers, with real threats of nationalizing their companies and using the army to get the coal. Serious antitrust action is needed.

    • @frostydei5012
      @frostydei5012 23 дні тому +1

      💚🩵💚🍻🥂
      People also forget that a corporation has to get approved before it's permitted to exist as a corporation.
      When we caught baby food manufacturers deliberately conspiring to sell us products containing heavy metals (without our knowledge or consent), every executive involved should've gone to prison. No parole. Why do white collar criminals get to write off a fine for premeditated negligent homicide?
      Impoverished people are stacked in Idaho prisons for "presumptive positive controlled substance residue". Does an individual's dependency on bootleg Adderall pose a significant threat to public safety? Nope.
      If this was a civilized country, healthcare would be a constitutional right. Given that we're all supposedly entitled to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness".
      Corporations who consider mass deaths a legitimate "business strategy" are a massive threat to the public. If prisons were actually intended to protect civilians from harm, they'd be full of executives from private equity and hedge funds.

  • @delanybell5613
    @delanybell5613 Місяць тому +2

    I’ve honestly just got really lucky so far. I went to a well funded public school that taught me important skills/programs in my field, those skills were able to get me a few part-time jobs in college, those jobs and skills were able to get me into a good job even when I dropped out (and the job was a family run business with a super chill and generous millennial boss), and when I had to move on from that I was hired at a local non-profit that now paying for me to take classes in my field. If I lived somewhere with a more competitive market in my line of work there’d be no way I have the job I do. The downside is that I have very little options for moving on to something better in my city, so I’m having to consider moving states. While I’m glad I’m at least getting experience and free education, it’s because I’m being passed up for better positions for my bosses friend. And my new boss is horrible to work with. Feels like I’m stuck between a hard place and a rock, but hey at least in getting free education out of it.

    • @spazzpeddlerclosing
      @spazzpeddlerclosing 16 днів тому

      i bet youre a female because youre honest about it all.. i wouldnt move though unless its only for pleasure..dont move unless you have the ideal job for your future.. because youll probably end up moving back in 5 to 10 yrs..trying to get a job there again. but only you know.

  • @Justlikethat555
    @Justlikethat555 Місяць тому +17

    To know you're weeks from losing your job to Artificial Intelligence is depressing. Was informed months ago and still haven't landed an interview. I have a mortgage, a son in 12th grade and a mother to care for. Too many people are applying for the same jobs.

    • @DamonCassidy
      @DamonCassidy  29 днів тому +10

      It’s a complete disaster and as I’ve mentioned many times the employment numbers are also not accurate. I believe we could be facing a massive economic downfall as a result of decisions based on false statistics. Really a concerning time we’re in

    • @RogersRoost9066
      @RogersRoost9066 22 дні тому

      @@DamonCassidyjust look at the inverted yield curve. The 10 year treasury now pays more than the two years. Every single time this has happened …Recession.

  • @johnr6145
    @johnr6145 29 днів тому +5

    A corporate recruiter is definitely not a hiring manager.

    • @DamonCassidy
      @DamonCassidy  29 днів тому +1

      He’s had many different positions in his career

    • @johnr6145
      @johnr6145 26 днів тому

      @@DamonCassidy d Kent remember him being a hiring manager though.

  • @randyblackwolf
    @randyblackwolf 21 день тому +3

    Requires: Bachelor's Degree and 5 years experience..pay: $17/hour

  • @davedsilva
    @davedsilva 24 дні тому +2

    Once you realize getting a job is like getting a Tinder date, an explanation and solution presents itself.
    With 5M+ U.S. grads annuallly flooding the white-collar job market, consider blue-collar General Labour and work your way into Skilled Labour. A key is hide the red flag irrelevant degrees and instead talk about willingness to get dirty doing the paid work noone wants to do.
    Replace whining videos with hire me vidoes.

  • @raventhorX
    @raventhorX Місяць тому +14

    At around the 33 minute mark, i feel many people might nit have a strategy because so many jobs seem to discourage it. Idk how many jobs i was rejected from where the recruiter or interviewer outright stated they were looking for more longevity, even though i had stated that should i get hired i planned on sticking around for more than 2-3 years.

    • @ThatOldTaco
      @ThatOldTaco Місяць тому +3

      At this point lie and say you're sticking around for 10 maybe 15 years

  • @karlregan5276
    @karlregan5276 14 днів тому +1

    I can say from personal experience that companies were pulling exactly the same shenanigans with their hiring practices as they do now.

  • @American-Motors-Corporation
    @American-Motors-Corporation 23 дні тому +2

    Most people when they refer to ghost jobs there is no notifications that it's a ghost job there is no header talking about what kind of a wreck it is.
    It's literally that you go to indeed or zip recruiter or any other jobs board you find a job and then you apply and then you never hear a damn thing back That's a ghost job!

  • @JaceFalcon
    @JaceFalcon 29 днів тому +5

    Civil and criminal penalties over application information collection.

  • @atlantic_love
    @atlantic_love 27 днів тому +4

    The problem I have with this sort of video is that you can't REALLY say what you want to say, because your future employer might be watching the video. And you have people in the comments who likely work for these employers and would feel offended at the truth. Most everything you're saying is correct, it's just watered down and not really beneficial to anyone.

  • @_CosmicSton3r
    @_CosmicSton3r 16 днів тому +4

    I guess there's a reason they don't do undercover boss anymore.

  • @nihad6727
    @nihad6727 27 днів тому +3

    I don't see anyone talking about the massive amounts of jobs offshored and outsourced. Add in the massive immigration influx and you got yourself a shortage of entry level jobs that train employees to experienced professional jobs. Anybody want some cake to go with their CEO bonus? This was foretold by Perot all the way back in 1992 with his Giant Sucking Sound speech. Corporate America needs to never utter the words "shortage of workers" ever again.

  • @jerseyhead.u
    @jerseyhead.u 29 днів тому +4

    Stop me if you’d heard this. Sharks smell blood, dogs smell fear, and humans smell bullshit. In business school we learn about customer experience and relationship building, but once we enter the workforce it becomes more about the stakeholder. Don’t get me wrong both are important, but it does seem that we sometimes put too much emphasis on revenue, and it comes at the cost of undermining the customer. Think the customer is ok with a small price hike if there’s reason behind it, but if you’re raising prices just because you have a window of opportunity (and continuing to do so), customer will catch on and take their business elsewhere.
    At the same time though, how many people can say they wouldn’t do the same thing if they were an executive? Hate to say it, but there’s a reason they’re spearheading the direction of their respective companies. Was I livid when I saw that a 16 oz. bottle of Dr Pepper was $2.50? You bet I was. Did I still buy it? Yeah… because, y’know, I was thirsty and craving a Dr Pepper 🙃

    • @GearForTheYear
      @GearForTheYear 17 днів тому

      Yea don’t drink soda anymore unless you literally want your brain cells to die. Look up the study on carbon dots. You will be disgusted.
      I know you were using it as an example, but holy crap if I can save one person from going through what I have been through for the last ten years, it was worth it.
      The study is called “Endogenous Fluorescence Carbon Dots Derived from Food Items”

    • @spazzpeddlerclosing
      @spazzpeddlerclosing 16 днів тому

      a 24oz beer in a can is $5.00 at a 7 eleven in downtown chicago..every brand an even $5.00. its facinating because why that number and is it legal and is it working for that store ? damn i wish i could ask them. ( i just visited there)

  • @draneym2003
    @draneym2003 5 годин тому

    You'll notice the higher you go, the less leadership you'll see. Which begs the question of what you people do all day.

  • @laurieroth4589
    @laurieroth4589 День тому

    Thank you for highlighting how we (recruiters) advocate for candidates we believe in. That’s why I wrote in my book: be kind and respectful because when we believe in you, we’ll always go to bat for you.

    • @grega8875
      @grega8875 20 годин тому

      Lol. I’ve never met a recruiter in my life that wasn’t a scumbag caring all about their fee for placement

  • @ZoeyR86
    @ZoeyR86 27 днів тому +3

    I think it should be illegal to complete a stock buy back if they have had more than 0.5% of the total employees laid off in the last 18mo

  • @matthewshelton8307
    @matthewshelton8307 28 днів тому +1

    My favorite are insane pay expectations. Like here's a management position that requires 5-7 years experience on-site in LA pay is 50k.

  • @lamarpatterson7572
    @lamarpatterson7572 29 днів тому +3

    Dude said a bunch of nothing

  • @BigLuckBrian
    @BigLuckBrian 29 днів тому +1

    I was laid off from my last major job in landscaping BECAUSE I had a strategy and plan to stay there for 5 years then work elsewhere and my employer knew this. Still I was let go less than 2 years in because "My heart wasn't in the industry". No shit Tom, when one is forced to be away from home for 13-14 hours a day 6 days a week one tends to get drained...

    • @DisposableSupervillainHenchman
      @DisposableSupervillainHenchman 29 днів тому

      Your ex-boss proved your entire point.

    • @UberHeroMystic
      @UberHeroMystic 18 днів тому +4

      Thats why you never reveal your cards to your employer. I used to “take vacation” as an engineer all the time just to go on interviews.

    • @pisceanbeauty2503
      @pisceanbeauty2503 9 днів тому

      Shouldn’t have shared those plans. You are always going to be the first in the chopping block when cuts need to be made.

  • @Jomster777
    @Jomster777 Місяць тому +4

    Bryan is a good advocate of "For the Employee". Really nice to see you got him as a guest in your channel.

  • @paulhornbogen980
    @paulhornbogen980 29 днів тому +1

    B. Is a class act in today's job world. I am using his material to get a job. It is a total different job world. He speaks the truth.

  • @MubashirullahD
    @MubashirullahD Місяць тому +2

    Came for insight, stayed for the career advise.

    • @DamonCassidy
      @DamonCassidy  29 днів тому +1

      Glad it was able to provide value! Great to hear from you!

    • @MubashirullahD
      @MubashirullahD 29 днів тому

      @@DamonCassidy I'm interested in the research behind the kind of assessments they take for jobs. Places like crossover take these intense tests

  • @mattm1686
    @mattm1686 23 дні тому +2

    There’s nothing human about Human Resources”

  • @karenmurphy512
    @karenmurphy512 24 дні тому

    Love that you both did a collab. Amazing to see your channel grow, Damon!

  • @antoniomartinez588
    @antoniomartinez588 28 днів тому +2

    I enjoyed much of this conversation, but man did that last section not resonate with me at all.

  • @Pendergast891
    @Pendergast891 Місяць тому +10

    Just because inflation is coming down, its still increasing; inflation is 30+% higher than 10 years ago still and wages have barely trailed (i think the median income has technically increased all that time)
    Almost every company that isnt part of the funny-money wallstreet 'eCoNoMy' have razor thin profit margins still, but people are pointing at those hedge fund management firms and then saying that grocery stores with 1.5% margins should be strangled even more because of 'greed'

    • @hgrimes9824
      @hgrimes9824 Місяць тому

      Umm those grocery stores are banking record profits atm. They are gouging and price fixing for profits and they too are not hiring proper candidates for the jobs. Kroger were I live, just hired 8 people over me and a few others. Those people didn't last a week. 4 of them walked out on the job to get high and three more couldn't pass a background check to keep the job. Now they are right back to bitching about not having workers and not hiring for their clearly understaffed stores. My opinion is, fuck em! Let them wither on the vine and become a memory of what not to do next time. DEI/ESG is killing everything as well. Corporate "leadership" in the US is pathetic and stupid.

  • @titolovely8237
    @titolovely8237 Місяць тому +6

    it's the same problem that's plagued large beaurocratic institutions for all of history - too many chiefs, not enough Indians. we are in a weird situation where our workforce is overqualified for most jobs on offer, and even the good jobs are hyper competitive because, generally speaking, anyone with an IQ over 90 can do them. in a word, the meritocratic system that corporations used to adhere to out of necessity is over. it no longer matters if you have incompetent people in positions, even those of leadership. it's the same reason why current employees all get paid the same, regardless of if you're a master of your craft or an absolute dumpster fire of a human being.... same pay.

  • @jersterdota
    @jersterdota 29 днів тому +2

    I get that ima sound like a hater
    ( a factor not completely) But I blame this on those idiot tik tokers that posted those “a day in the life in a tech job” and only film themselves doing 1 hour of work . . .
    You will obviously get laid off if you show your position only does 1-2 hours of work per day

  • @fremontpathfinder8463
    @fremontpathfinder8463 25 днів тому +1

    Don't work for corporate America unless it is a union job. The US has an imbalance problems in jobs- too many applying in tech and general jobs and not enough in healthcare, the trades and teaching shortage areas. There are so many opportunities in city, county, state and federal government jobs as well as school districts, civilian jobs in police departments, etc. Best thing I ever did was leave being a Registered Vet Tech (I always would have been employed but pay is low and benefits are poor) and go back to school and teach in a blue state. Lots of opportunities for extra work in large districts. I would be living in poverty today had I not kept moving. Get a gate kept license. The US will need 330,000 welders in the next few years. 50% of RN students in California are men. Average pay is 137,000 dollars here. LVN's which is only a one year program do wel too. Don't forget that transportation systems also need tech people.

    • @bugs389
      @bugs389 24 дні тому +1

      So you're a teacher in a blue state? Mind sharing more about the pros? My wife is a teacher in a red state.

    • @fremontpathfinder8463
      @fremontpathfinder8463 21 день тому +1

      @@bugs389 Hi It's hard to generalize because CA is such a big state. There are urban, suburban and rural school districts. The interesting thing is that in some rural areas like Crescent City, the Del Norte School district pays very well. You often have academic freedom in districts and most districts are unionized. Benefits are usually good but you really want to check districts for that. For example the Paso Robles districts makes teachers pay quite a bit for their benefits but in Los Angeles I pay nothing. Did your wife have a career before teaching? That matters due to the windfall provision of social security. Cal Strs is our retirement system and it is good. I have heard that in New Jersey the school districts pay into Social Security. Mainly you want to find a district you are comfortable with and matches up with your values. Interestingly El Centro city near the border has a salary scale of 71,000 to 143,000 dollars and is less expensive than Los Angeles. Mainly whatever state you want to teach in you have to transfer your credential and that can be time-consuming . I think some states in the midwest and other areas have a compact where teachers don't have to take a bunch of tests to transfer their credential. I think CO, KS and 4 other states are part of it.

  • @HPkobold
    @HPkobold 11 днів тому

    God this is rough why isn’t the government isn’t stepping in to stop this?

  • @jberndt88
    @jberndt88 12 днів тому +2

    Im a therapist, one thing I learned quick about psychology is administrators love posting about themselves all over agency websites. I look at their websites and they have 15 administrators and five therapists. Meaning I would have to work for two other people’s salaries that both believe they should be making $200k a year. So if I ever go on vacation for even one day Ill have 15 people stopping by my office telling me how unloyal I am and how crappy of a therapist I became.

  • @alphaomega1351
    @alphaomega1351 19 днів тому +2

    He's part of the problem. Useless recruiters and HR staff. 😳

  • @garyweston3269
    @garyweston3269 17 днів тому +2

    Most jobs posted aren't even real jobs. Four months looking. It's all shenanigans. The tech job market is collapsed. I have great credentials.. one interview in four months. It's weird out there.

  • @Jbig1430
    @Jbig1430 Місяць тому +17

    At this point i think the real issue is there are no more jobs in this country. We filled all roles at this point. That is why we have to do large amounts of layoffs.