Can The 2021 Toyota Tundra TRD PRO Compete With The Raptor, TRX, Or Rebel? [Full Review]
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- Опубліковано 4 гру 2020
- This Toyota Tundra TRD PRO is just under 49,000$ which makes it within 100$ of the most expensive and luxurious tundra you can buy
And the door handles are made by little tikes
Both hood scoops are fake
The steering wheel is the same as you get in a base Tacoma from like 12 years ago
The gear stick is from the 90s and the head unit is a dumpster fire
By no means is this a luxurious or modern truck and with the TRD Pro kit it starts competing with things like the Ford Raptor or the Ram TRX in terms of offroad prowess.
Here’s the good news/bad news. Bad news first, in every measurable way the Raptor and TRX are superior trucks execpt for two - reliability and price.
At 50k MSRP you can’t buy a used Raptor with less than 60k miles selling for less than that.
Here’s another thing to consider, these TRD PRO vehicles hold their value better than damn near every other truck and why is that? PEOPLE FIEN FOR THEM! WHY? It’s a horribly equipped, basic, inefficient, ancient pickup?!
Here’s the reason - owners will actually offroad these things. Think of the Raptor and the TRX as the Lamborghinis of off road trucks. Wildly capable, but they spend more time on Instagram than what they’re built for. TRD owners beat the crap out of them and go overlanding, why? Cuz the trucks can take it.
The Toyota Land Cruiser is the go-to offroad vehicle worldwide because it’s capable, tough and bulletproof.
The TRD trucks aren’t the fastest or the best to live with, but you can take it out, beat the absolute mess out of it and it’ll still ask for more.
So with that, let’s talk about the specifics of the Tundra TRD PRO
I’ll add one caveat before we dive in here. At the filming of this video, the next gen Tundra was leaked and the new one looks like it’ll fix a lot of the things I’ve complained about in the opening.
Here it is, the Toyota Tundra is a massive beast of a truck
It’s got a 5.7L V8
381 hp
401 lbft
This is what you want, not the 6 in the Taco (SOUND)
Toyota/Lexus V8s are bulletproof
6 speed auto
4WD with electronic transfer case and automatic LSD
It’s not fast, it’s huge and it’s beasty - you don’t expect a SUMO wrestler to win a footrace, but that doesn’t mean he’s not in shape
Here’s the thing though, none of that stuff I just mentioned is the important bit
This is an offroader so it’s nice to have that 4wd system with the transfer case BUT
Fox dampers with external reservoirs - for added travel and body control
skidplate
Rigid fog lights
TRD specific wheel and tire package - BBS Forged
Now even with all that stuff it’s still missing some stuff from the competition, but that’s a separate video
Let’s talk looks, I’ll let you make your own decisions for the most part, BUT
Lunar rock
Special grille
TRD stamping
Looks as badass as it is, but I’d have the Army green and if I had a taco id do voodoo blue
Interior is basic as hell like we talked about
Super spacious
Back seats fold up too
Front seats are ehh comfy, but have cool stitching
In 2020 they added ACP and AA
Now let’s get it on the road and see how it does
Here’s something ridiculous - LAUNCH!
It’s not horribly slow and more importantly it sounds great.
Silky smooth V8 power
Redline under 6000
6 speed gearbox
THIS IS OLD SCHOOL AF - came out in 07…..
The Fox dampers make this actually really comfy on the road too
The ride is supple and the power rolls on smooth
The steering is sluggish, makes this big truck FEEL like a big truck
Overall it’s not bad, it’s overly simple, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing
Final thoughts*
Alright so at this point we’ve been all over this thing.
Here’s my consensus.
The biggest fault is the age. The new gen for 2021 or 2022 will solve a lot of the equipment and design issues
It’ll also solve the fuel economy issue which is abysmal at like 17 mpg highway. (hybrid)
Despite all those flaws there’s a lot to like here, especially if you’re an overlander take your vehicle camping.
The offroad kit is good enough where you can get most place safely, the interior is big enough so you can get there comfortably and the reliability is enough so you can always get home...unless you run out of gas
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I’ll take reliability, quality over any of the flash and tec of other trucks 💯👍🏻
14 mpg with an empty bed and no trailer is a deal breaker for me. My last ford lasted me 15 years and never had a major repair. It got 20 mpg too. If it was 4wd I never would have traded it. I'll bet my new one last just as long if not longer.
Agree
Tundra is a reliable truck unlikè the others you guys always put it down i've had 9 of them and no problems what other brands can say that. They' re junk
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You buy a Toyota TRD because the resale value in 15 years will outperform your 401k
For reeaaallll hahaha
😂😂😂so true😭😭😭
In 15 years we would be driving electric/hybrid vehicles. Who would want to buy a 15 year old gas guzzler at a high 'resale' price ?😝
I like it’s simplicity. Rugged, reliable and simple. Perfect for amateur off-roading.
No doubt JUAN
Right? You know. Old school. Metal interior also no freakin screen
Not just amateur
I owned 08 Toyota Tundra double cab SR5 for 12 years, the hood of my truck opened just for routine oil changes and that’s it- i traded my Tundra last month and It was hard letting it go but not for long cause I replaced it for 21 Tundra TrD Pro Lunar Rock with my eyes closed- love my new Tundra.
Nice!
Going to do the same . I ordered a Double Cab Lunar Rock. Went from my 08 to that . 5 month wait.
Ask was reading I thought u traded it for a different brand but then I saw "the read more" and it was for another tundra 😂😂😂 u got me bro! U got me!
BTW. The sound of that engine it's amazing
💯😎👌
The question should be... Can the Raptor, TRX or Rebel compete with Tundra's reliability?
Nahhh but most of the people who get those trade in every 3 to 4 years so they don’t care
Best truck on the market. Period.
💯🙏
Dang right! I have one and I feel sorry for dodge dude because they just don't get it!
The reason I bought the my new 2019 Tundra TRD Pro VS the 2019-2020 Ford Raptor. Love my new 2019 Tundra TRD Pro (Super white) like no other truck. (Only 5,000 made each year nation wide)
Tundra TRD PRO: Good
1. 5.7L V-8- engine and the sound. (no other truck)
2. Reliable, no check engine lights or dealership trips monthly fast like all Ford's.
3. BBS Forged wheels, Rigid lights.
4. Space inside and the dependable for on street and Off-road fun.
5. Fox Off road suspension and skid plat from factory.
6. Price walk out/finance at $57,505.57
7. Watch the pro's video from Toyota link below, testing the TRD PRO.
ua-cam.com/video/wg88g3xF5_Q/v-deo.html
FOR RAPTER: BAD
1. Leak oil from the plastic cap.
2. All types of check engine lights by 30,000 miles, dealership trips monthly.
3. Interior parts replacements like moon roof's plastic breaks, power window breaks, etc...
3. Radiator leaks by 50, 000 miles
4. V-6????
5. sensors replacements
6. Price $75,000 for a V-6 loaded Raptor???
WRITE BACK YOUR THOUGHTS AND AFTER WATCHING THE VIDEO LINK.
Thanks for the video link....almost make me feel that I may only have to go up to 33's when I get my next tires since these guys did it on stock 32's.
Did you own a Raptor?
Trading my Raptor for a TRD Pro. I traded my limited Tundra for the Raptor last year. Never leaving Toyota again. Reliability over everything.
@@Southpaw11 I traded my Raptor last month for a TRD PRO. So far I really like it. Not as many gadgets, but then again, thats why I traded it. 2 major repairs in 1 year of ownership on the Raptor. I do miss more power, but the Tundras V8 is sweet.
The Toyota TRD tundra just looks badass especially in that army green color and the gray is a close second. The v6 raptor is a big let down in my opinion I've driven one and was not impressed. Toyota definitely needs to refresh that interior to keep up with the competition Dodge is killing it in that department.
Yeah I’m excited for the new gen tundra!
great review, honest opinion. keep them coming!
best truck out their! proven and capable! and the fact that its been around essentially unchanged since 2007 should tell you something about its reliability...others only wish they could boast about that record! great job Toyota!
yes, it's got a lot of plastics on the inside and it's a dinosaur, but I'd still pick this truck with my eyes closed.
It’s pretty cool if you use it for what it’s designed for
@@dwnshft it is a truck if you want luxury buy a Lexus
If it ain’t broke. Don’t fix it
Nice Review, hope it will be available in the Philippine Market
I have a 2013 gen 1 ford Raptor and love it, but also love the toyota trd pro both amazing capable trucks with awesome straight up V8's !!!!!
Thanks for the video - great information and confirms what I know about the Tundra. I have a 2015 4Runner Trail and will never sell it. I'd love to get a Tundra and pop a Go Fast or Similar camper on top. That way I can crawl with the 4Runner (to an extent) and camp with the Tundra. Great trucks all around.....
Nice! I’m buying a 2014 4Runner trail tomorrow 👌👌👌
The looks of the ole tundra are still sharp and mean to me, but started looking at dealerships in my area.......most of the tundra trd start at around 56-62k 😵.
Yiiikkkeeeesssss
Funny thing is the fabric seat is more comfortable than the leather one in this truck. And my buddy who has the leather agreed with me.
Tundra is a far better truck than all the others...Pretty big deal that they simply do not break like all the rest
totally, that's why Toyota can get away with charging what they do for these things
Yes, the sound only is a big reason to buy this truck!
I heard it doesn’t have blind spot monitor and some other safety features. Why?
Trading my Raptor for one of these at the end of the month. Give me a V8 and reliability over everything else.
I have the 2020 Pro army green. I was so excited about Android auto couldn't wait. 4 months down the road I've used it once. Dont need it
hahahaha that's crazy! at least you have a sweet color!
I don't care for the technology in my tundra... I'm in love with the truck regardless of what's in the others. The platinum and 1794 has lots of cool practical features
So if the sound is why you buy the truck then woukdnt it be a better idea to buy another trim and kust throw on trd dual exhaust.
15 mpg is not that bad. My 2018 GMC 6.2 L got 13 miles per gallon on a good day and that was with cylinder deactivation.
The rebel doesn't beat the tundra , you're nuts
I have a 2003 SR5 Tundra with 225,000 miles. If I ever need to replace it, I wouldn’t consider anything but another Tundra.
Nice 😎
base msrp on a trd pro is 53k still cheaper than anything else and it holds its value better.
Best residual value over all other full size trucks!
If I HAD to chose between a tundra, f150, or ram rebel1500 for everyday use I would pick the tundra just cause it’s cheaper, more reliable, holds its value and the after market industry is really heavy. Cookie cutter is what you look for when you’re off road less electronics less that will malfunction. I honestly don’t think this truck gets enough credit.
Better value than anything out there
It just needs the technology that the Tacoma's have. That's all. The sales of this tundra will skyrocket and maybe with a better exterior design, toyota might even dominate the US truck market for yeeaarss to come.
Sounds good to me
It pretty much sounds like he watched other reviews on the Tundra and regurgitated the same talking points. The point of the Tundra is that it’s a rugged powerful approach to old school trucking and off roaring.
How are these Pro trucks on the highway? How do they compare to SR5 with Sport Package? I worry that 18" wheels with those tires not as good a ride as 20" wheels. (I'm new to trucks and I want the last year V-8.)
Is sun roof mandatory on Pro?
They have a very nice ride on the highway but the TRD Sport has noticeably better handling on the highway as it doesn't roll as much when going around curves.
@@dalephillips8250 okay. But I'm confused. I thought Pro was only TRD. So SR5 Sport is also TRD?
If you don't care for the offroading ability of the TRD PRO and want something that has better steering feel and body control I wouldn't get the TRD PRO. My opinion is that the handlig of the Tundra TRD is still good and will work for most people. the only issue might be that there are more "offroad-focused" tires on the TRD. The only way to know which you like best is to test drive each! But my opinion is if you don't REALLY want the TRD then save the money and get another trim
@@teller1290 There is a TRD Off Road and a TRD Sport option.....then there is the TRD PRO which is the flagship model.
@@dalephillips8250 got it. Trying to see about ordering TRD Sport and online tells me army green, while available for lesser priced options, is no longer available for TRD Sport! Surely it could be ordered. (Of course, I'm not talking about Pro, where, sadly and stupidly, army green was replaced this year.)
Yep I just bought a brand new 2007
Lunar Rock Trd pro for 54k and yes it worth every penny.
What is the point of bringing something new to the market every year and not last 5 years.
I had a 01 tundra stick shift rwd in new England never got stuck in the snow ,drove it for 11years 230k miles sold it for $4500 in 2012 the guatemalan man still drives it and probably ask $6000 for it.
Now the newer Ford's, Ram's or Chevy are great truck but a old brand new toyota is just better.
The question should be ‘can Rupture, ToysRUs, or Bubble would be able to compete with Tundra?’
Its funny how people compare the Tundra to the Raptor or the TRX. Toyota couldnt care less about those trucks. What they care about is reliability which is the most important thing if you ask me. As a matter of fact, I cant even think of a truck at the present time that's more reliable than the Tundra. Diesel or Gas.
Yeah Toyota's focus has always been reliability and durability - especially in their trucks
Just add a magnuson super charger and you'll have 550 Hp with the Tundra.
Well there’s an idea 👀
Solo we do a review of an off road truck but never leave the asphalt 🤔
Yeah it’s a bummer but this was a press car from Toyota and you have to have special approvals to do stuff like off-roading, track driving, and drag racing
I get my 2021 on Tuesday. Been sitting on pins and needles.
Congrats!! Enjoy!!
Do you like it?
Yes! Everytime I push that start button I remember I made the right decision.
Even my Dad who is an avid Ford guy enjoys it. I think he is even a little jealous 🙂
@@iannielsen4651 well said and I agree 100%!!!!
@@endurocompify Not sure if you’re talking to me but I paid $54,000 on a TRD Pro Max that had a sticker of $55,645. That does NOT include tax/license plates. I had to go three states away as Nashville and Atlanta had $5,000-$7,500 mark up :(
What's a ram T-Rex?
Three things you can’t deny about Toyota Trucks, great off road capability, high resale value and legendary reliability.
true, true, and true
Big V-8 and big HP means lower MPG. Don't forget unmatched reliability
I disagree this is still a beautiful , funtional truck
I am sorry but 2007 tech and the gas guzzling is nuts. Love the price but why not all around Leds. Love the grill. No Tks on the shifter.
2007 Tech? 🤣 I am sorry but that is just extremely incorrect. It is much more updated than you think. Has Apple CarPlay, Bluetooth, tons of Safety features, Push-Button and Remote Start, Adaptive Cruise Control, Tire Pressure Monitoring, Navigation, HD Radio, LED Headlights, bed lights, and Fog Lights, Alexa voice communication, etc. I mean what else do you actually need? It’s a truck, not a Luxury sedan. 🤷🏻♂️ The gas mileage isn’t that bad either, not much worse than any other truck with a V8. Driving habits of the individual are what determines such. I have a 2020 Tundra SR5, and am trading it in for a 2021 TRD Pro. I test drove many other trucks; Ram, F-150, GMC AT4, Titan, and Chevrolet Trail Boss Z71 (5.3L & 6.2L), and I still choose the “outdated” Tundra. Once you own one, it’s extremely hard to get something else, unless it’s an upgraded Tundra (like the TRD Pro). Not to mention that even with the “outdated” Tech, it still holds it’s value better than anything else of its kind. That alone tells me all I need to know. Toyota Tundra TRD Pro isn’t just another truck, it’s an investment. You will get your money back and then some if you choose to sell it. That cannot be said of most other trucks.
@@Enforcer0623 you will have to tell us how you like the new one. I hope it works out. I am not sure I am sold on it.
@@geraldnau425 Oh I’m not getting the 2022, I’m sticking to the current model TRD Pro (2021).
If this truck had a diesel, I’d own one today. Price is almost irrelevant.
So what you are saying is the tundra is the last basic truck on the road. A basic truck to do real truck stuff is a good thing. There is something to be had for that kind of rock solid reliable simplicity. With that said, the tundra's Fuel economy is a deal breaker. I get 22 MPG in my 2.7L ecoboost on the highway without a trailer in tow. My ecoboost can make the same 400 pound feet to torque at a lower RPM. Trucks and turbos go together like peanut butter and jelly. If the tundra had better fuel economy without sacrificing work capacity, I would have bought one without question. Even though I bought a ford, I think the tundra has reliability in spades. Like I said, there is a lot to be said for rock solid simplicity. That part of Toyota's formula should never change, BUT PLEASE FIX THE FUEL ECONOMY!
The problem with turbos is longevity.
@@cerny4444 I have to disagree. If people stop putting these aftermarket tunes on them, these twin turbo motors will easily go 200k and beyond.
@@rdsii64 That’s certainly a contributing factor but there’s still the factor of putting lots of turbo power/pressures into smaller engine and manufacturers not adding upgraded internals to handle that. Manufacturing only has to get 36k miles and 36 months. It will be interesting to see if people get the longevity out of these turbos that Toyota buyers/owners get currently. Thanks for your response
55K vs 75K Raptor
But that MPG!
It’s only $$$$
My only two gripes with my 21 Tundra the auto start shutting off when you open a door makes the feature worthless and the pathetic subwoofer JBL...?? LOL
Yeah man there’s a couple features that aren’t the bombass dankass😂
@@dwnshft hahahahaha i see what ya did there ;)
When you do the remote start and you try to open the door, the car shuts off because it’s a safety feature so someone doesn’t try to steal your car; Toyota stated that themselves too lol.
On next week's episode, "Can the Honda Accord comepete with the Mercedes S Class?"
Loving the comments in here. I’ve owned them both. The tundra is not even in the same ballpark as the raptor. The raptor beats it at every single thing except maybe sound
and price, yeah but other than that this isn't a true raptor competitor
Not reliability though.
toyo beats it at price,reliability,resale ,looks for me
If I’m shopping for an Offroad truck right now, I would get the TRX, period, point, blank. But I’m waiting for the Raptor R.
When I bought my 2019 Raptor, I looked at other trucks and there wasn’t a single competitor. Not one came close to performing Offroad as well as the Raptor. And not one came close to its straight line performance on road. The only negative about the Raptor is the v6 3.5 twin turbo. I’m a big v8 guy. But it still is more capable off roading and on road than the Tundra. I own a 2012 mustang 5.0 and 2019 mustang 5.0 pp1 and they’ve been great. If I put reliability over fun, I would have a Corolla. But there is no fun in that. And the Tundra would not suffice for me. But it’s an amazing looking truck and it sounds great. But don’t fool yourself. It does not compete with the Raptor. And where do you get the Raptor being 20k more? I custom ordered my Raptor and it was 67k and some change out the door.
$55,840 Base MSRP for 2019 Ford Raptor Super Crew (4 door) (800A package)
$3,855 Total of Options
-17-inch Forged Aluminum Bead-Lock Capable Wheels ..
-4.10 front axle with TORSEN® Differential ..
-bed divider ..
-bed-liner spray in ..
-remote start system ..
-Tailgate Step with Tailgate Lift Assist ..
$1,595 Destination Charges
Price without taxes and license: $61,190
Price after Cali taxes and license: $67k and some change.
Stpp it the relabilty from the worst to best chevy nissan ford dodge tundra
The tundra is a better truck in a lot of wsys
No truck gets good gas milieage there's not that much difference theres enough toys on my TRD. PRO and they all work
I' ve also beat 2 hemis with my tundra it has plenty of power if you think it's slow then you're. nuts you also need driving lesson
Raptor and TRX outdo it because the TRD is not meant to compete with a raptor or trx, it’s meant to compete with a trail boss, f150 fx4, and the rebel. This is like comparing a Honda Civic to an f1 car.
Nobody cars about the comparison.. Toyota all day. Toyota is not worried about competition with the raptor or trx
@@terrynichol577 He’s just answering the question to the video title.
@@thewall4669 ya? Cool man 🙄
The Tundra headlights are kind of awkward shape, not appealing at all. I would not buy anything that is contradict to what I deem as beautiful.
Fair enough! What trucks headlights do you feel are the best?
Ford raptor owners happy because they will go further than the Ram Trx and Tundra will run out of fuel
U do know that the raptors mpgs are still pretty bad, its awesome but its big, wide, tall soooo....
I think the tundra gets better gas mileage than a raptor. Eco boost, power of a V8, gas mileage of a V8, and the sound of a Mini Cooper. Pointless. If you want good gas mileage buy a moped.
@@brandonjdozaphoto not true. I had a Raptor, 17 to 18 mpg on 35s, my TRD Pro 2nd tank was 15.8. First tank 14s on stock tires. But Raptor takes premium fuel, so the cost per mile is almost a wash. The Raptor is a better ride, hands down, the tech is better also. It was the reliability that made me trade out of the Raptor for the Tundra. Reliability, that means a lot to me.
Didnt have to watch this and the answer is NO.... Lol come on really? Toyota is only good for boring fun reliability. I dont need a truck to out live me, i want a truck that puts a smile on my face = Raptor.
vizi0123 I’m pretty sure the rumble of a v8 + adding a super charger would put a bigger smile on your face than a twin turbo v6. You don’t want your truck outliving you? Guess you’ll enjoy paying for all them repairs then
@@Viper1924 Don't get me wrong, i like the Tundra and if modded it probably would be a fun truck. It just a little outdated for my taste and financially i'm lucky enough to enjoy certain brands that arent as reliable as a Toyota. Gotta have fun man....
This is the stupidest opinion ever... Wants to pay more for less... The asians would tare into you like Michael Douglas did Sharon stone in basic instinct and that's what your brain is.... Basic...
@@locdawg3815 Tare into me?? Lol okay. If you are worry about money than you should just buy "basic" stuff. I have a Raptor and a Porsche. High maintenance vehicles but they make me smile everyday. I heard Kia's are really good for the dollar value, you should check into that. "Basic brain", i cant stop giggling at your comment... Life is good Dawg, how's yours? That's a rhetorical question btw.
Why are Raptor people here?? Seems odd to me....
Functional, sorru
I have a raptor and after two years of dealing with cam phasers and other nonsense, it's time for a toyota. I just wish it looked better because I am certainly not buying the new one as it has a v6tt and... never again. It's actually uglier than this generation, tbh, anyway.
This great overlanding rig... with a 1300lb payload and no front/rear locker combo... 🤡🤡🤡
The only truck witth real scroops is the trx so get off it
Raptor over this truck any day of the week.
Sure if you want to spend the extra $$$$$$
@@cerny4444 it’s a lot for some not much others. You also have to factor in how much you’d have to spend to modify a stock truck to Raptor level.
@@davemasbutter266 I understand but what I don’t get is why there’s always people making comments on how great the Raptor is etc.?? I wonder why people feel the need to have the Raptor vs Tundra debate on a Tundra video. I don’t click on Ford Ranger or Honda Ridgeline videos and say they are nice but not a Tundra. Seems odd to me and just trying to stir the pot. Thanks for the response and I certainly respect your views.
@@cerny4444 2nd Gen Raptor is an amazing truck. Probably the best pickup I’ve ever owned. The Tundra is good for what it is but it is extremely dated & nowhere near as capable on road or off unless you spend a lot of time & money modifying it. At that point you may void any factory warranties. Raptor gives you a lot of performance & comfort right off of the showroom floor. If you get a chance to buy a lightly used pavement queen at a good price I’d recommend picking it up.