FAIRPORT CONVENTION - MATTY GROVES REACTION - First time hearing
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FAIRPORT CONVENTION - MATTY GROVES REACTION - First time hearing.
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It was said of Sandy Denny that she could make a 300-year-old song sound like it was written yesterday, and a song written yesterday like it was 300 years old. An incomparable talent, sorely missed.
One of my top 5 albums. I never ever tire of this record. Every single song is incredibly dear to me. Dave Mattacks drumming is sublime, Ashley Hutchins’s bass playing combines with Mattacks to create an entirely new genre of groove, Swarbrick and Thompson’s interplay is revolutionary, and oh my, Sandy, a voice in a million, taken from us far too soon.
Don't forget Simon's guitar!
I sang this in Cornwall in the pub in Devon across from cornwall plymouth.
We have the best traditional music
It is timeless
This one of the finest albums of all time. An absolute classic!! The Blessed Sandy Denny!!
This is known as "Trad Revival music" which became popular in the 1970s with groups like Fairport Convention and Steeleye Span. This is an ancient English song played onb modern instrumenbts andf slightly updated. I have been a fan since the 1970s. I'm really happy to se another generation discovering it. If you are familiar with old American Appalachian Mountain music, you will see the relationship between them. It was these old tunes which came to the mountains with the settlers which are the roots of American Country Music.
How I love this album. 50 years I’ve been listening to this😊😊 a and I live in the village Fairport lived in in thec70s😊😊
Amazing album, Sandys' vocals really make it.
Liege & Lief is possibly the finest folk music album ever!
Exactly the reaction I had when heard this song for the first time. Sandy Denny should have gotten an Oscar for this. Her voice is so vivid and expressive that the listener can follow the song as if it were a movie and feel / understand every emotion the caracters go through.
I love this particular album and Matty Groves is one of my favorites. I also adore Reynardine, on the same album.
Imagine being 20 years old and loon dancing to this at some muddy festival somewhere in 69 or 70. Sadly I was too young. Timeless.
i wasnt..
@@andrewreed501 and did you ?
One of my absolute favourites! Sandy Denny had the most beautiful voice without doubt. I love fairport convention , steeleye span and electric folk rock .
Sandy Denny was the only singer to ever have appeared on a Led Zeppelin studio record, The Battle of Evermore. That is to the credit of this fantastic singer.
Bit harsh on Mr Plant, but I know what you mean!
Glad you liked this! The legendary Dave Swarbrick (Swarbs) on fiddle, sparring with the immaculate Richard Thompson’s guitar, and led by the wonderful Sandy Denny in vocals. Swarbs and Thompson had a natural affinity when jamming together and were superlative improvisers (Thompson still is, but sadly Swarbs passed away a couple of years ago).
Fairport are the definitive folk rock band.
Entirely agree. Am a devoted fan of both Sandy and Richard and have a huge collection of their work.
I thought it was very amusing that after rumours of his death Swarb and after his lungs transplant he came back to performing with a band called Lazarus.
@@richardjames7905 And of course Swarbs made a few extra quid selling autographed photocopies of his obituary at gigs, signed “R.I.P Dave Swarbrick”😀. Saw him a couple of times when he moved here to Australia for a while - great bloke with an impish sense of humor, and masterful fiddler.
Simply...brilliant.
like Steeleye Span, Fairport Convention revolutionized Medieval and Renaissance period folk music into "Folk Rock" during the 1970's....Sandy Denny was the female vocalist for many years......
Lovely reaction.
Please try who knows where the time goes .
Be warned you’ll be a mush of tears after listening to its beauty .
Peace
I’ve got this down for my funeral song, or Meet on the Ledge🤔
Likewise
It's an English folk song.
A 500 year old one. Fairport Convention is a folk rock band. They perform folk songs with rock music.
I'm pretty sure it's Scottish :)
@@timarmstrong3251This is definitely an English folk song. Why do you think he didn't want it said in England that he'd "slew a naked man?"
@@thehound9638 Because they changed the words?
@@thehound9638 these ballads were based on both English and Celtic predecessors.
The Child ballads were written down and collected in the 19th century, and the actual title was "The English and Scottish Popular Ballads" by Francis Child (who was actually American!)
The texts date from the 13th century to the 18th, and most of the musical arrangements are even more recent, but the songs definitely have deep roots.
Matty Groves" itself is probably originating in Northern England, but it really didn't become popular until the version "Shady Grove" from the Appalachians in the USA became popular in the early 20th century.
The more you know ;)
Excellent and legendary group! Thanks for checking out Fairport Convention as very folk artists (yet alone folk groups) receive any reactions, and the late, great Sandy Denny was terrific. Like Stan Rogers whom you reacted to earlier, she died very young in a tragic accident. You would probably enjoy their album, Liege and Lief.......it's a classic!
I've only just noticed this. Fairport Convention are a great band, a wonderful band who everyone should hear. Obviously I'm biased but Richard Thompson is probably the greatest British guitarist and I inclde Clapton and others in this assessment. The band started in the late 1960s and are still playing today and hold the annual Croperdy Festival. Thompson is still touring too.
Wikipedia has an article about the song en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matty_Groves
I think that the final instrumental part can be compared favourably with the violin section in the Who's Baba O'Riley.
More folk-rock is needed.
Richard Thompson is just so versatile.
My favorite English Folk Rock Album. I consider the Trinity of English Folk Rock to be Fairport Convention, Pentangle and Steeleye Span.
There is a lot of good folk rock from the UK under the genre of Xian Psych. It's mostly private press music that's only been discovered in the last 10 or 20 years that was recorded in the 60s and 70s. I have a 290 song playlist. There's a band called aslan that's great, but there are at least two by that name. The genre name is short for Christian psychedelia, but only some of it sounds like the classic psychedelia.
They tend to be forgotten but the band that took folk rock into the clubs at the same time was Mr Fox. No one had ever seen drums and bass guitars before the set up. Bob and Carol Anne Pegg started the ball rolling for me.
Could tell by your groove that you were right there with Fairport... and the great Sandy Denny...thank you.
Try my favourite song of all time - Sandy singing Who Knows Where the Time Goes
*You can hear her singing with Led Zeppelin in the song "the battle of evermore". Sandy is no longer with us for she was a very disturbed soul.*
Well, done mate! Listening "outside the box".
I'm really glad you like this..... the music I grew up with.
The previous winter Fairport were in a van crash which killed their then drummer, and also Thompson's girlfriend. They'd been known as interpreters of American music, covering Dylan, Leonard Cohen, Joni Mitchell and the like as well as some originals. They had a sort of crisis of identity and decided maybe they should take The Band's example and become interpreters of their own culture. This album came out of that decision, with bassist Hutchings doing research in the archives at Cecil Sharpe House for material. The album also includes a Scottish ballad which dates I believe to the 12th century, Tam Lin, Farewell, Farewell, a Richard Thompson lyric set to an old folk standard, Willie O' Winsbury, Crazy Man Michael, a Thompson lyric with music by their fiddle player, Dave Swarbrick, those latter two being Thompson's attempt to grapple with his feelings about the crash. These old ballads are replete with many variations and often dozens of different verses, so arranging them requires choosing which ones to use. They put this together over a couple months in a rented house in the country in the summer of '69 with their new drummer, and the guest fiddle player from their previous album added as a full member. The tragedy led them to record an album which pretty much created the English folk rock genre. Immediately after its release, both singer, Sandy Denny, and bassist, Hutchings, left the band, still coming to grips with the tragedy.
One of the best murder ballad sung by the greatest female voice. I suggest to listen to Planxty version called Little Musgrave with the voice of Christy Moore
Liege and Lief is a seminal folk-rock fusion album. If you like this track so much you will surely like the whole album. And I daresay you would like traditional British folk music too, especially Scottish and Irish, if you want get into that.
Check out "A Sailor's Life" by Fairport.
Agreed!
My favourite Fairport performance.
They are (were) a brilliant contemporary folk band. Listen to ‘Crazy man Michael’, beautiful.
At this very moment I’m a Rhine cruise with Fairport providing the music. This was last nights finishing song. Simon Nicol now taking the lead vocal. Ric Sanders violin is every bit as mesmerising as The Swarb’s. The present lineup is some twenty years old and every bit as good as that original. Gerry Conway as the drummer is different from Dave Mattacks in style but still brilliant.
Wow, so cool. I've seen nearly every band I have ever wanted to see starting in '71 but never them.
This band as well as some of their contemporaries mentioned in the other comments, were the precursors of what we now call Celtic Rock. Sandy Denny appeared as a guest singer on a Led Zeppelin song called "The Battle of the Evermore." That's worth checking out.
Folk Rock. An apt observation. This Album is the origin of British Folk Rock.
Matty Groves, in it's many versions, is a classic Murder Ballad.
I hope you listened to the rest of Liege & Lief. It's Fairport at their absolute peak in a career, full of tragedy, frequent lineup changes and general chaos.
I’m amazed in all my years I’ve never heard of this group before, I just don’t know how that could be, but I’m better for it now, thanks Harri & Dmn23!
Lucky person. Enjoy, and be amazed by Swarbrick.
My favorite song from plymouth uk
Absolutely love Fairport! Your hearing the wonderful vocals of Sandy Denny. Curved Air is another great band in this genre. Renaissance has always been my favorite! Great reaction my friend!
Hi Greybeard, some time ago I chose a song by Fat Grapple. The violin player on that was Eddie Jobson who joined the group as a young teenager. He was later poached by Curved Air when the bands shared a bill.
@@pauldover1403 ahhh Eddie Jobson a well travelled artist. I remember the work he did with Jethro Tull and Yes. An equally talented keyboardist and violinist.
My brother introduced me to Renaissance - great band!
I think Curved Air is prog rock rather than folk rock, but they were a great band too.
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But Sona Kristina has a folk background and auditioned for the Strawbs. She also played folk after Curved Air.
If you like Matty Groves, try 'A Sailor's Life' from 'Unhalfbricking' also by Fairport. The story is that they recorded it in one take on the second run-through. Swarbrick had only just been asked to play with the band.
This is the first reaction I've seen to this song, Fairport Convention are one of my favorite band (my favorite folk band). This is such a great jam session. Btw the song goes back 4 or 500 years.
Now listen to A Sailors Life by Fairport for another extended guitar - fiddle duel between Richard Thompson and Dave Swarbrick. As always Sandy Denny’s vocals are sublime.
FC was my husband's favorite group, and he had 50K + album collection and worked in the industry. I recommend She Moves Through the Fair and Who Knows Where the Time Goes. Thanks for sharing.
What a tight band, playing the instrumental finale w/electric guitar mixed w/the violin/yeah, folk-rock imo -- and it gives the listener time to reflect on the whole story (in ballad format). Sandy Denny was notorious for her unique voice. Unfortunately, she had a terminal illness early in life, and passed on.
I found a certain sad irony in the infidelity and double homicide from an obviously wealthy lord/land owner (being they had a servant..who ratted her out)..that she approached the younger man at the local Church. Then being that he buried her in the same grave as her lover, but her above Matty, since she was Noble 'kin' pays more homage to economic status, and her having his surname than morality from all three of them.
The confrontation was done in 'honor' (more like a dual),..her demise was like an honor killing (he justified) and disloyalty (servant man) - all aspects originating in a church. The rat could've minded his own biz+the whole situation handled totally different (but then, where would the passion+drama be? It wouldn't be a ballad type story. lol
It could be, she married.. (arranged..?) into wealth, never had any feelings for hubby and missed out on most of what she felt she needed to catch up on.
Upper class mostly had arranged marriages. Royals still do. Lord donald, or whatever- was a hard-working upper class farmer/land owner and probably treated her like his property (just guessing lol)
I think you would really enjoy the Scottish ballad on this album, Tam Lin. It's from a Scottish ballad written in 1590 about a young woman and a woodland elf, really mind-blowing how she sings it.
Great pick ! This is my 2nd fav on album --- 1st, being Tam Lin. Really, check that one out!
TYSM for the post.
She did not have a terminal illness. She fell down some stairs and that's what caused her death.
I have a wide taste in music.... This group, this album..... superb. Was lucky enough to see them a couple of times, as good as any group, listening to them live was a privilege. I have played this album more than any other. It was a game changer in its genre... in fact it was quite simply a game changer in music period.
This song is only 500 years old! There are a couple of mountain style versions surviving in the isolation (untill maybe 100 years ago) of the Apalachian Mountains. The descendent versions have little changes like
Matty Groves' killer is a big shot, but not a lord & the guy who "slighted" Barbara Allen is just Sweet William rather than "Sir" John Graham.
A really good song you might like to react to is
Little Sparrow sung by
Dolly Parton.
I forgot to say, Richard Thompson has a great solo version of Matty Groves; just him a his guitar.
Doc Watson version is a traditional American folk version of this. Almost same style as many woody Guthrie and Cisco Houston songs
Fairport convention...sandy Denny....so many fond memories....who knows...where the time goes....God 🙌 bless
In America, this tune is called Shady Grove. Same tune, different lyrics
The Ballad of Matty Groves is actually an old English Ballad, originating in Northern England, earliest date , 1613. I've loved this song for over 40 years, one of my most famous ancestors was. Lord Donald of Somerled. Aka, The Mighty Somerled, he was of Norse decent, I'm almost pure Scottish, I'm a MacDonald, the beautiful music dates the song, (Ballad) as well as the story.
10:55 The idea that tjey'd rehearsed this for years couldn't be further from the truth. Just a few months before this was recorded, the band was in a van crash returning from a gig which killed drummer Martin Lamble and Jeannie Franklin (Richard Thompson's girlfriend) and seriously injuring most of the other band members (Physically and mentally).
OMG That's so tragic! All those emotions vented out through their music.
Hallo Harri , do yourself and a lot of Fairport fans a great favor and listen to the song called : Percy,s song ( A Bob Dylan song) ! also a hounting song, you love that song as well, i,m sure.
Sandy Denny, one of the best, ever. 🙏❤ Great reaction and good analysis Harri. Peace.
There are several incarnations of this old, old song - Little Musgrove (played by Christy Moore) is an Irish version.
There is a non murder-y version called Shady Groves
It then moves as a medley into 'Fair flower of serving men'
Always liked this track. It's almost reggae adjacent, can't fight the groove and the words are good too.
This is my first time on this channel and Harri is a really genial host, genuine and articulate. You got a sub from me.
i've been going to Fairport Conventions Cropredy festival every year since 1992 - the most chilled and friendly festival in UK.
British folk rock.
Another great song by them is Meet on the Ledge. For me it is the ultimate song of the 1960s. In the 1960s there were some great folk bands; Pentangle, Steeleye Span, The Watersons, The Young Tradition, Anne Briggs, Jack Elliott of Birtley, The Copper Family, The Incredible String Band and many others
There’s a great version from the bands live album from the mid 1970’s. Brilliant album and brings a more natural sound as you would hear it at a concert, and I think this is the first track on there.
Nothing like it, so brilliant.
A supergroup--Richard Thompson, Denny, Swarbrick, Hutchins, Mattacks!
Saw them do this live many many years ago ❤
Magnificent song. The theme of the story is oft-repeated in folk music: Raggle-Taggle Gypsy, Little Musgrave, the Jolly Beggar ... versions by Planxty worth a listen (absolutely masterful Irish band)
good lad excellent review
you know, with folk songs you should most of the time expect the tragic ending
Catch the Oyster Band album "English RocknRoll the Early Years 1760-1920" !
I'm a big fan of Fairport Convention. Reminds me of The Berkshire Hills and the Hilltowns of Western Massachusetts. I think Fairport Convention would be perfect to perform at the Book Mill in Montague, MA which is near the Five College Area and The Mohawk Trail.
I think you missed the crucial bit that lord donald found martty in bed with his lady. Sandy Denny on vocals was imo probably the finest female singer songwriter England has produced. Unfortunately she spent far too little time on this earth.
Amazing thing is that original vocalist Judy dyble is just as talented. At least in my opinion
Very good analysis
The same melody gave rise to Shady Grove
Fantastic review! I hope you can check out their "Tam Lin". Truly gorgeous.
the song probably goes back a thousand years
This is as good an epitome of English or Irish folk music as there could ever be; the dramatic or the dramatic/tragic narrative is all. It always tells a story. Try listening to 'Banks of the Nile' by Sandy Denny or 'The Highwayman' by my hero, an American named Phil Ochs. Thanks for listening friend.
When I first heard this plymouth uk
And Nicol, of course
For American version of folk rock starting at the same time the byrds sweetheart of the rodeo, and the flying burrito brothers, guilded palace of sin are two albums to check out
If you like this sort of story song, I can recommend Bill Norrie by the English folk legend Martin Carthy. Straightforward folk (he's great guitarist, though) it actually has a twist in the story in that it's a case of mistaken identity. The Devil and the Feathery Wife is another fun one by him.
classic album that :)
Fairport Convention is an amazing 1970's band. Matty Groves, a brilliant English folk song. Sadly, this is a chaotic rendition.
You ran into one Harri!
Okay, I see you DO have a Sandy Denny! I think Who Knows Where The Time Goes would snuggle down into your soul and not leave for a few days. It's very slow and contemplative, unlike this one.
Can sing this backward
If you **like** Fairport Convention, you're gonna' **LOVE** Steeleye Span!
Absolute folk rock pioneers...
So many absolute classics off their like 40-50 years worth of music...
Harvest of the Moon
The Song Will Remain
700 Elves
Lord Randall
King Henry
Boy of Bedlam (50th Anniversary version)
Sir James the Rose
Jack Hall
Let Her Go Down
Allison Gross
Black Freighter
Lowlands of Holland
Cold, Haily, Windy Night
Fighting for Strangers
Van Diemen's Land
The Ploughboy and the Cockney
Lady Diamond
New York Girls
Tonight's the Night
Four Nights Drunk
Skewball
Long Lankin
Thomas the Rhymer
John Barleycorn
etc.
Decades of good music!
It alright, much prefer the doc Watson version.
Why explain..we read English Fer crying out loud