Lord Halifax - Appeasement & Peace with The Third Reich Documentary
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Do an episode on king Baldwin IV
With sir Winston Churchill, Lord Halifax formed the undefeatable team that won the war. The last roaring english lions.
Three cheers to them!
Surprise at the Da.. uniting Catholic & protestant
It's so easy to forget that Lord Halifax and his generation suffered through the slaughter of WW1, hardly any British family were not affected by the loss of a family member. So stopping another million men lost must have been at the forefront of Halifax's mind. And another brilliant and insightful documentary a very big thank you.
GB is in the long process of surrendering to Berlin. They could have had their German royal family do this in 1914.
@@williambranch4283 The National Socialist vision of Europe has largely come into being with the modern EU.
@williambranch4283 Germany has no power, they just make over-priced cars to quote character pub landlord Al Murray.
@@stevechristie2569 I have think that modern Germany has more agency than just an exploiter of other European countries.
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Germany's British Kaiser Willy could have surrendered to ours in 1914 .
One of his sons, Richard, was a 2nd Lt. in my dad's company in 2nd Batt. the King's Royal Rifle Corps. He lost both legs in the fighting in North Africa.
As a German I am very pleased for this detailed and sound analysis of Lord Halifax political oppinions and influence in that time. It seems to me that he played an exceptional - mostly hidden -role in the surroundings of Winston Churchill.
Are you a Fascist/Hitlerist ?
For me personally, this is one of the best you folks have done to date. As a Canadian, I have always been taught the story of Halifax as an appeaser, who later turned around and became a good supporter of Churchill.
I never knew any of the story of how he had a long before that realized Hitler could not be appeased and then worked to buy Britain the time it needed to be able to fight back in the war he also saw was coming.
It makes me understand far better why he was looked at as the possible Prime Minister.
A far more able, skilled, and admirable man then I knew before this. Thank you.
Halifax meant well but he was very naive about Hitler.
As Churchill said.
"You cannot reason with a tiger, when your head is in its mouth."
Very interesting video and probably the best narration on here so far .
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Churchill put our heads into Hitler's mouth. But he admired the British Empire and had no wish to eat on a table facing West. He simply had his eyes on Danzig and eventually Russia. The British and the Poles foolishly got in the way.
Neither the British or the Polish can claim such a bitter victory as of worth.
60 million dead, Poles lost 17% casualties. Flattened Cities and crushed innocents across the Globe.
Look hard at our decisions before we blindly declare war again.
“Though I am, as you know, a pacifist by nature, I am not disposed to go to all lengths to meet people who seems to be behaving with utter unreason”
E. F. L. Wood 1st Earl of Halifax
I look forward to reading Andrew Roberts' biography, The Holy Fox, for a comprehensive view of Lord Halifax. He does have a negative reputation, but this documentary was very fair and highly informative.
My Father who worked for a lorry manufacturer - Tilling Stevens in 1938 always complimented Chamberlain for buying us time after Munich. From this documentary it would appear that it was Chamberlain who was the appeaser and Halifax had the foresight to see the whole picture and oppose it. In this case it would appear that history has been unkind to Halifax and I am grateful to learn this new, to me, information
This profile of Lord Halifax goes in so more detail then most known. It's very clear their was more to Hailfax then we should know.
What are you trying to say? Your usage of English words is quite strange.
Ridiculous!
Halifax and Chamberlain did everything they could to avoid another generation of British lads being slaughtered wholesale! Fascism seemed like a bulwark against the Soviet Union, another player we could try and do business with, or at least vaguely tolerate.
The fact we weren't eager to jump at the chance of war indicates that we'd learned lessons from The Great War which had finished a mere two decades earlier!
Germany who lost much of that generation too,obviously had not however !
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Germany was being run by a fanatical dictator, so the Germans had little choice but to obey him or end up in a death camp.
@@philiprufus4427 excellent point 👍
Result was another slaughter and destruction of an Empire. The point is, that as Britain refused to help others to fight, it was forced to fight alone for survival at the end.
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That's nonsense !
Britain helped the French and half the world to fight the Nazi dictatorship.
They lost the Empire due to our 'special friends' in the USA who were undermining us from day one and wanted it destroyed .
Before the meeting between Chamberlain, Haifax and Churchill, Churchills advisor-Brendan Bracken told Churchill to ‘don’t say anything at all and you’ll have it’. That’s why this narrator said ‘and Churchill hardly had to say a word’ it was because probably for the first time in his life, he was quiet and let Halifax talk himself out of the job!
(1) The documentary gives the impression that the 50 vintage destroyers traded for British concessions were not very useful. Well, they were old, but they were vitally needed as escorts for Atlantic convoys. Any warship that could drop depth charges was better that leaving convoys defenseless. Churchill was not being suckered.
(2) Decades ago, while doing some research as an undergraduate, I found a British Foreign Office document that contained a surprising revelation. Today it would be called "dog whistling. In a meeting with Ribbentrop, Halifax was suggesting that Czechoslovakia would provide good advance airfields. In a subsequent paper, my thesis was that through Halifax the British were trying to turn Hitler's regime eastward. This was consistent with a lot of wishful thinking in official circles; the two antagonists would best be tested against each other as opposed to Hitler's apparent ambitions in the West. Chamberlain's "distant land ... people we know nothing about" ramble was not surprising given the climate of opinion and the 1938 Crisis. I've had a cooler regard for Halifax since then. I suppose it was 'real politik' but I don't think the Czechs much enjoyed it, nor have perhaps forgotten.
The most important thing and the most covered aspect is the military one. Czechoslovakia was not a sitting duck. In September 1938 it put in field about 1.2 million man with 2500 guns, 1000 AT guns, 500 AA guns, 500 tanks, 900 military aircrafts behind chain of 10 000 concrete fortresses. Nearly all was production of domestic industry. This all fell in hands of Hitler. Now compare it to BEF in France in 1940... The whole "Time for re armament" narative is a nonsence.
Yeah, the UK should gave supported the Czech instead of selling them out!
What confuses our understanding of British diplomacy and policy during this period is that they were not dealing with one monolithic group of socialist fascists, but two. For most of the 1930s the Marxists were by far the most vicious, genocidal and murderous of the two major Leftist factions. Only quite late in the 1930s did the National Socialists come to rival their Bolshevik socialist comrades, and by that point they were allies.
British policy for centuries has been to play off the despots of continental Europe against each other. This did not fundamentally change once the justification for despotic autocracy was switched from Christianity to socialist nationalism, socialist racism and an utterly shameless socialist exploitation of workers. Note that the respective socialist tyrannies founded by Lenin and Hitler, respectively, were essentially identical in this regard, and hasn't really changed much since.
Good points ... thanks!@@DrCruel
This is a fascinating, for me, revaluation of Lord Halifax. The preconceptions I was brought up with and his subsequent portrayal in movies and documentaries (🤔) now seem two dimensional and unfair. Great documentary. Thank you.
Always look forward to an upload from this channel. Love me some history!
@24:51 "Edward was persuaded by the government to abdicate" is... an interesting interpretation of those events
Thank you - one of your very best videos yet.
Used to reading of this period from Churchill's point of view, it's very intriguing to see the same events from the perspective of Lord Halifax, Churchill's nemesis.
I beg to differ. Churchill's only nemesis was Hitler.
It was a pleasure to listen to the lovely speaking voice of the narrator.
You guys have to do one on Harold Wilson or Clement Attlee at least.
Ramsay MacDonald and/or Keir Hardie would be nice too. 🙂
Would you trust their biography of Attlee if they can't even get it right that Labour backed Churchill and not Hallifax for the premiership?
I was formerly viewing Chamberlain as an appeaser. I learned later that he bought time for England to re-arm and develop the spitfire. I am also probably remiss in thinking Halifax was referred to as "Lord Hawhaw!"
The thing that stopped the UK's rearmament was the powerful peace movement in the country. The the majority of the peace movement only changed their minds when the USSR was attacked by the Germans. What does this tell you!!
How exactly he "bought time to develop the Spitfire"? The plane flew for the first time in 1936, it was in production and introduced to units in 1938 when there was a Czechoslovak crisis culminating in Munich agreement. By orchestrating that (together with Daladier) he gave Germans free resources to build more Bf-109 which shot down more Spitfires, so he put the nation security in risk, he haven't bought anything, quite opposite.
@@pavellahoda4280 this is real politics, u must do your utmost to prevent the deaths of millions before u set off to war and destruction, he saw that as his moral duty, as any educated person would.
@@helloicanseeu2 Hm and a result of this "real politics" was horrors of WW II and some 72 millions of dead people. Without Chamberlain's "contribution" there was a real chance Hitler could be stopped and while there would probably still be a war, the scale of it would be very different. Chamberlain helped to cement Hitler's position, which was not as strong before Munich, gave him extra resources that played key role in defeat of Poland and France. He clearly put Britain in much bigger risk, he haven't bought anything - nobody would attack UK in 1938.
@@febweb17 Labour would not let the UK rearm until 1938.
Very informative and an interesting take on the complex politics of the time.
I think so many people were desperate to avoid another war so soon after the last devastating war but , still, Britain needed desperately to buy time to re arm. It’s difficult to imagine anyone other than Churchill , with his bulldog appearance but good brain, leading England to victory. Truthfully, I don’t know if it could’ve been done without him. Enter the realm of fantasy and legend says that Arthur would return again when England needed him most. He may not have looked much like a prince of legend but, perhaps , the legend was fulfilled in him 🙏🙏🙏👵🇦🇺
Excellent documentation, very detailed, and most importantly, explained, in detail, all the dealings, behind the scenes, that culminating in the entrance of USA into WWII, thank you for sharing this great story with the proper videos, thank you ,JV
“Nations that go down fighting rise again, but those who surrender tamely are finished.” Winston Churchill in reply to Lord Halifax
So you didn't listen then?
It was a nice slogan but not really accurate. Czechoslovakia and Denmark surrendered tamely to the Germans - Poland went down fighting. Poland suffered far more harshly for it, had its cities destroyed and lost far more people in WWII. Denmark and the Czechs suffered far fewer deaths. Post war they all ‘rose again’.
@@martinmitchell7280look at the Republic of Venice that meekly surrendered to the French, a thousand year old nation that never rose again. The Byzantine greeks fought to the end and later Greece rose. There are many examples that back up what Churchill said. And even Czechoslovakia had a pretty strong resistance movement during the war and when Germany "peacefully anexed them" there were still some army units that refused to surrender without a fight.
That, - Could be Germanys then Epitath. I do not think many Germans felt that way in 1945 however.
Fanatics Maybe !
Interesting. Clearly untrue, but Interesting.
Very good (indeed, excellent) documentary. Well done.
Best thing to say about Halifax was that he was an idealist at heart, and a little out of touch, but he ultimately served well. History will remember him.
Look at our country now and tell me we didn't lose WW2.
Enjoyed this. A fuller account of the man than I had previously understood,
A very thorough documentary, great job.
If Halifax had confronted Chamberlain and given up on the idea of appeasement around the same time that Eden did, rather than opportunistically taking Eden's place as Foreign Minister, I would probably have more respect for him. Eden was left to hang in the wind, which very much pleased Mussolini. His friendship with Keynes makes me like and trust Halifax even less.
"The man's dead, Lisa..."
LOL. No one was prepared for the war, there is no "appeasement", it's a broken promise out of an attempt at European stability when no one can do anything....and it's Chamberlain pushing for rearmament before he's even in office. Today we know Chamberlain's work as PM reversed all that. He assumed invasion or attack on Britain and set up the island nation for survival. The "appeasement myth" is conservatives covering up their members who supported the rise of fascism.
Completely brilliant
Lord Halifax comes across as a man who bore heavy responsibility believing in the best and expecting the worse.
A gatekeeper
Rather say he thought "he knew best".
Gatekeeper's not really correct in 2024 terms perhaps.
My opinion of him has increased after watching this, I learnt a great deal about this man.
If it hadn't been for the need to retain the support of the large number of the Appeasers amongst Tory MPs, and the fact that Halifax was a mate of the King, I'm sure there must have been times when Churchill toyed with having Halifax arrested and charged with high treason.
Exactly. He was either a traitor, a coward or completely stupid
Halifax and Churchill were both veterans of WWI, they both knew what the costs of that war was, but they took diametrically opposed approaches to avoid a repeat. One also has to remember that Churchill's reputation wasn't what it is today, and he was often discounted, and not just by Halifax. These were known as the wilderness years, primarily the 1930s. Halifax gravely misjudged not only Hitler but also Churchill, and both of those errors emboldened Hitler. But that doesn't rise to treason, and I know of no evidence that Churchill ever thought in those terms, as he was known not to carry grudges, except perhaps against Hitler. Indeed he kept a running cordial correspondence with Chamberlain until the latter's death.
Absolutely brilliant, great documentary and very interesting
Halifax and Butler thought the war could not been won which was certainly true had Britain been condemned to fight alone which is why Churchill was so desperate to involve the United States. In May 1940, the strength of isolationism in the United States (with its large German minority) meant this was far from certain which is why H and B were interested in the lure of a peace conference. On the other hand, the British government knew by that time that Hitler’s word was worth nothing whatever he might agree to at yet more talks. Churchill’s determination to fight on was vindicated within weeks by the armistice terms Hitler imposed on France and the creation of Pétain’s puppet government in Vichy. Failing to pursue the war with the determination to win in the end would have risked the same fate for Britain. A British Pétain would doubtless have been found. When the war cabinet discussed what to do in May, France had not yet fallen but the British knew that any negotiations could only be “successful” if more concessions were made to Hitler who could not be trusted. Halifax and Butler were prepared to take that risk. Fortunately, Churchill was not.
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Love this channel. Can u plz do a video on the whole Borgia or Medici family. Or any European monarchs from the 10th century onwards? Preferably not from the uk though lol, I’m British but there’s loads of videos on British monarchs, I’m sick of seeing the same uploads on the Tudors, Victoria, Edward 1 and 3 and Henry’s 5 and 6. Videos on monarchies from Sweden, Poland, Span etc would be good. French and Russian monarchies have also been done a lot too, but I’d rather watch them then any videos on uk monarchs lol. Many thanks and Thank you for your amazing videos xx
Gustavus Adolphus would be great.
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Sometimes apassement won't cut it and you have to go to war.
Sometimes bad spelling just won't cut it, and you have to be "that guy" to point it out...
But smart, GB couldn't save Poland.
@@williambranch4283One british sniper could have saved the world from another war if Hitler had been taken out
@@williambranch4283Stalin occupied half of Poland and they were our Allies.
@@hefellump1 That is the contradiction of history. The US as war mongers, aren't "good guys" and neither was a war monger and mass genocidal dictator like Stalin. I accept that war makes strange bedfellows (as did Churchill). History is arbitrary ... the US could have equally gone to war with GB and the Soviet Union, as part of the Axis. (US Plan Red until 1939).
36:20 Stalin was not only offered Eastern Poland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, but also the entirety of Finland as well as Bessarabia from Romania. This fact was forgotten from the documentary entirely.
Watching this channel I've realized that most people lived in Britain.
This a very kind analysis of his life and political career., dose not go far enough into is failures, and disastrous policy's to placate the division of India and the huge lose of life. , and the disastrous finical package he negotiated with Keynes with the Americans after the war. which almost bankrupted the country There is no mention of his involvement the British help in creating the atomic bombe and the Americans shutting the UK out to develop there own after the war. He represented an elegit class as there duty and right to rule without the ability to do the job,
Thank you.. for so many good documentaries (pardon my spelling)🙏🏻
It's spelled properly.
2023-09-07 ... Wow .... Absolutely incredible ... "thank you" for this wealth of information about Lord Halifax .... a genuine English patriot who's contributions significantly helped Churchill win WW2 ... I've watched "Darkest Hour" almost a dozen times, where unfortunately because of time limits, Lord Halifax's deep aversion to war wasn't properly explained, other than his repeated references to REFUSING to watch another whole generation of brave English soldiers slaughtered as in WW1, where Halifax served by attending to solderiers' funerals ... This documentary explains so many, many other things as well ... wonderfully ...
Halifax was a nightmare and full of hate against Germany. This man was the main diplomatic driver of the whole warmongering actions from England to seed the conflict. He thwarted the peace negotiations from Hitler many times, by influencing whole Europe with his ideas. Search for a deeper insights ex. of Prof. Hoggan about the background and circumstances.
Love this channel
This was HIGHLY interesting. You have succeeded in turning my view of Lord Halifax from a weak, scornful appeaser into the succesful, shadowy, much needed counterweight to the perhaps overly appraised Churchill. And in my mind you succeeded in re-establishing Lord Halifax as a noble Briton that did his best to serve his country. And quite succesfully, at that. Perhaps moreso for the country than for himself.
Honour where honour is due. I thank you for a public restauration job well done. Awaiting a later, official rehabilitation, perhaps?
Chamberlain, this coming Sunday. 😁
Image if we had come to an agreement with Hitler, and left Russia, our old adversary on the NW frontier, to the tender mercies of Germany. Would the British Empire have remained in tact ? Could we have stomached what Hitler did to the jews, gypsies and Slavs? Would America have stood by and done nothing to stop the rise of the German Empire? Would Japan have conquered most of China and East Asia? This probably happened in the Universe next to ours.
@@TheDAT9Japan had to go to war in South East Asia to get resources, such as oil, which America embargoed it with. Without it they'd have to admit defeat in China, which they were not willing to do.
It had the confidence to do this because Britain was tied down fighting for its life in Europe and the Dutch were already defeated and occupied at home.
In peace, Britain would continue to bolster its military and try to gain and alliance with USA and bolster its alliance with other nations such as Portugal. Germany would have no leverage to stop this in any peace settlement.
My guess is, Japan attacks Indonesia, the Philippines and Pearl Harbour as it did historically, but doesn't touch any British colonies.
The British could agree to an alliance with USA and enter the war anyway and Japan will be defeated much more quickly than it was historically. In exchange for this support, USA could agree to invade Europe with Britain after the defeat of Japan to oust the Nazis and free occupied nations.
Without international aid or support, I don't see the USSR successfully invading Germany. Whether it manages to halt the German advance or survive in any way is a harder question to answer. This may be seen as a good thing for the allies, as this weakens both the USSR and Germany.
Rather than USA completing the Manhatten Project 1st, Britain may in this timeline since British research was the most advanced pre-war and it no longer has an incentive to hand it all over to USA. However, it's likely Britain would be less eager to actually use this weapon on a city than the US was.
The ROC would probably get more attention and support in this timeline and the allies may be less willing to stand by and let the Communists win.
Italy will be able to secure an empire and oil unopposed though and will be in a much stronger position should war break out. Though without a common enemy, there's not much uniting Italy and Germany and you could see Italy join any future European war both stronger and against Germany.
That's the best analysis I can do and there's too many variables in any what if scenario.
Britain definitely wouldn't stand by and do nothing indefinitely, as it can't afford to from either a security or trade perspective and there will likely be demonstrations against the atrocities happening in mainland Europe.
It may secretly continue organising and supplying resistance groups across the continent. It may even convince Spain and Portugal to align with it in time and arm them to launch a Southern invasion of France.
Britain would never align with the Nazis, since the fascists and National Socialists in Britain were really unpopular and people would find what they were doing abhorrent.
Most interesting - I confess until I listened to this I did not know much about Halifax except in perhaps a vaguely negative sense. I doubt he was alone in his views at the time. Nevertheless it now seems that there were perfectly valid reasons for it and that it might not have been possible to articulate them out loud at the time lest it give the long term game away.
Lord Halifax appeared to be a more discreet character then the flamboyant Churchill. Nevertheless he was smart enough to realise is true position for serving best of his country. Whithout losing his role in conducting Britain's affairs he chosed to work at the foreign office where he could do his job out of the spot lights but with the same impact as being prime minister. To me it is not a suprise that he chosed to do this because as an aristrocat he was used to solve matters in a room of someone's palace with whisky and ice or with a chalice of port. In opposition Churchill loved the crowds and could not live without them. As consequence Lord Halifax realized that Churchill was unbeatable as prime minister and soonser than later he would become leader the goverment. If he wanted to keep himself in the government he shouldn't compete with Churchill but instead cooperate with him. Nowadays Europe lacks of politicians like him or Churchill. It is sad.
thought-provoking, thank you
Thank you for such an interesting historical account.
Lord Halifax was trying to make realistic decisions to preserve the British Empire There were no clear solutions available to acheive this
You can't make peace with a person, nation, or organization that is solely bent on your subjugation or utter destruction. You either fight and defeat them, or you take the SOB down with you. It's better to die on ones feet than live on ones knees.
The way was to do exactly opposite of what he did.
LOL. Britain had a fascist movement buddy, centered around the Artistocracy.
Another RW context cowards, the same ones who say context isn't valid elsewhere when it's "Liberal" (which is weird since all Western Democracy is liberal by default.)
@@java4653 Lord Halifax was not part of the fascist movement
@@markrichmond4243he might as well have been with his cowardly posture
Fantastic documentary, brings back memories of my A level history course, which was essentially British and European history 1900 - 1946, with a major focus on Hitler and Stalin.
The question of appeasement is normally presented in massively over simplistic terms. The Treaty of Versailles needed adjustment and it was only reasonable to allow Germany to do certain things i.e. change some of the terms of the traty. The question of whether the various guarantees which the UK government gave to a variety of countries, including Poland seems to have been reckless. The Germans lost the war because of the lack of understanding of Hitler of the capicty of both the USSR and the USA. Hitler hadn't any real exposure to either geography or for that matter history. And he lost what little skill he had at leading that country as he grew more and more ill. Hitler truly lost the war. This video give a fine impression of the instability of the UK government in the early years of the 20th century up to the outbreak of hostilities with Germany. Thank you for this great presentation.
Wonderful informative and very interesting video. Lord Halifax was a very gentle man and was very valued by many people for his opinion for peace for all . Fantastic work People's Profile. J. Kennard.
My aunt and uncle were tenants of Lord Halifax, who had a house outside the village of Bishop Wilton. I remember him visiting my uncle, to see the books during one of my many holidays to their farm.
It's a pity that Halifax didn't write a more extensive record of his time in office on his retirement, as he comes across as more of a skillful pragmatist than an appeaser.
Churchill's prayer was "Oh Lord, defend us from Hell, Hull, and Halifax", a clear message of his opinion of Lord Halifax.
That arose from the fierce punishments meted out to miscreants in those places . . .
No, that was a common saying. Ever been to Hull or Halifax?
Yes, I've been to Halifax, more than once. I was born and brought up in Hull . . . @@vickywilliams8320
Certainly the latter. I had formed an impression from a Foyles War episode that he was treasonous. So many thanks for straightening out,
Does Lord Pembina of Pembina Highway fit into any sane category? Many crazies have traveled this in and out of Winnipeg, Canada.
Do you know Burton Cummings the pedophile/child molester of Winnipeg Fame? I was a target of his for years, and he got me as a virtual victim starting in 2014, he has not stopped.
Is thus a new narrator? Did a great job!
Whilst this is an additional educational chapter to this period, the more I know the more I question. All these silly clubs, the fact a "poor" Churchill had such a rich lifestyle, questionable finances to all sides, etc. That's a documentary right there!
Provided the facts in this documentary are accurate, it is obvious that Halifax's actions gave Britain the time to increase their military readiness. Eve though I wasn't born until 1944, I found this a fascinating account of WW II, as I did not benefit from Washington State public school teachers generating in me an interest for history. Thus, I only came to really develop a desire for learning more of World History after I married a man who enjoyed the study of it. Thank you for this production.
Bedankt
Thank you.
Thank you for a superb documentary. It appears that there was more to Halifax than I'd thought. He was not just a gutless appeaser but maybe , cautious and insightful thinker who played for time and supported Churchill's notion that it was impossible to negotiate peace with Hitler in the way Chamberlain had tried to do unsuccessfully.
3.50 You are talking about Halifax going to Oxford. The aerial shot is Cambridge.
Edward VIII brought up the question of abdication, not the government, although it is true that the government much preferred the idea of Edward's brother ascending the throne.
Well, yes, perhaps all the facts are true but what about the interpretation, where is the observation about Roosevelt's very early blank cheque to the Poles as Berlin was seeking an internationally overseen resolution to reunification seeking plebescites and access to Danzig andvEast Prussia, it was the same Roosevelt who had pressured Chaberlain to extend an undeliverable promise and pressured him again when Warsaw broke off talks with Berlin and some 40,000 ethnic Germans were murdered, German saw the grave danger in the east as in fact had Churchill, that presidential pressure was the touchpaper to WWII, wars don't just happen, they occur when they are useful however colaterally.
In what way did it benefit the UK to sign a pact/treaty with Poland ?
“Let’s declare war on Germany because they invaded Poland…”
Meanwhile the Soviets did the same thing two weeks later!
There’s a bigger picture here folks.
Why do people act as if Britain did anything above the declaration of war? It was an empty gesture, Britain didn't do a thing.
@@aleksanderwielopolski8205 An empty gesture??? We declared war, for goodness sake, and then fought that war.
@@davidtuer5825 Not until the norwegian campaign.
@@davidtuer5825And then allowed to be swallowed by an equally resurgent regime. Not their finest hour.
@@aleksanderwielopolski8205 Don't talk nonsense.
can you do a video on Charles lindbergh
Interesting....it does mollify Halifax's reputation as an appeaser along with Chamberlin. So he turned against appeasement before the outbreak of war. However once war did begin he was inclined to do deals rather than fight on direclty, in comparison to Churchill.
jock. Mollify? What does that mean?
Molotov pact/East Poland, Baltic countries and Finland too
quick correction at the start: high anglicanism and anglo catholicism, and particular the kind of anglo catholicism which seeks reunification with the roman church, are actually different. classical high anglicanism values ritualism, but specifically the ritualism of the prayerbook, not the accomodations to roman catholic spirituality the anglo catholic ritualists (not all anglo catholic were ritualists) pushed for. high anglicns were still reformed, they still beleived in the 39 articles of religion
Interesting documentary
Very interesting.
Very interesting^^
He had a Jewish daughter-in-law whose grandmother was Hanbah Rothschild .
Learnt that the sporting principles of the Eton playing fields didn't flow into Europe. Tried everything he could to appease Hitler, but when he finally realised he was being lied to did all he could to defeat Nazism.
I do wonder if the reasons given for not wanting to go to the US were a front for not trusting Churchill - but again once he settled did a very good job.
Thank you for the insightful documentary.
This was very interesting and informative, but the pictures accompanying it seemed eccentric and often not related to the soundtrack. Just one example - the soundtrack refers to the Isiah Berlin and Keynes being on the Washington Embassy staff. The photo accompanying this was of Keynes (and his wife) (who wasn’t part of the embassy staff, though he spent considerable time in he US working to establish the world post-war economic framework) but not of Berlin (who was).
Well read.
Thanks!
Thank you!
I think a video about Alexander the Great would be amazing
It shows how some people can tolerate evil at other people’s expense
Churchill was also well able to tolerate evil at other peoples expense. One has to consider what happened to Poland and the Baltic countries.
@@markrichmond4243I'm no fan of Churchill's, but he did advocate liberating Poland and the rest of Eastern Europe from the Soviets. It was Eisenhower and the US who vehemently opposed this. And Churchill wasn't in power when Poland was attacked.
There are better examples perhaps, like his approach to India and Ireland. He was also responsible for the shipbuilding holiday, which left Britain unprepared when WW2 kicked off, but he wasn't PM yet.
By the end of WW2, Britain was broke and heavily in debt to the US. It didn't have the manpower or willpower to fight the USSR alone and both the British and free nations wanted to return to their liberated countries where possible.
It could have tried pull manpower from India, but India was on its way to independence and this would've just sped that up and maybe caused a war India to engage in a war for independence.
Churchill also advocated to invade the Balkans and beat the Soviets there to prevent occupation, but the US blocked this.
Post War Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe was something only the US could really stop and the US was against this.
Look at Spain, Chile, Argentina, etc. and the despotic regimes the US and Britain supported in the name of opposing communism in the post war years.
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AAAAAAHHHHH Forgot the great Michael Wood, In Search of the Trojan War and In the Footsteps of Alexander the Great!!! @ of his great docs. Britanny Hughes wonderful historian and presenter says Footsteps is one of the top 50 docs of all time. I agree. He follows the route Alexander took when he jammed Darius and conquered the world~!
I really don't believe he saw the big picture, at least being as it was.
Well this documentary has certainly shown Halifax in a difficult light. I always held the belief that he was always up for appeasement but clearly he realised that Hitler was not going to be stop and that Britain was in no position to wage war. I think after seeing this documentary that Halifax was a smart operator and gave us that extra time we needed to rearm. It was also a great shame that his proposals for India met so many obstacles but that’s politics. At the end of the day no one really wins a war regardless of who wins as their is always a cost to it.
In my opinion, he was clever enough, as a soul Halifax, not to shake hands, as a men agreement, with nowone. On other side, somewone who thinks to have, as a politician always a wall before his eyes, said he could gave away his hand to be mummified, so many he touched... What a pitty, after lifestrugle, to cutt a person in pieces....
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Why are there so few photos of the holy fox?
As they say history repeats itself sounds very similar to the Ukraine situation
Most interesting. A very interesting, balanced vid. Churchill has been the good guy for ages and those that opposed him the bad ones. This vid seems to put the record straight.
That Would Have Saved Millions Of Lives
As @Rob5944 writes "My opinion of him has increased after watching this" - To many films have to have villains and to few show the complexity af the time !
Misguided but good intentions that cost a little too much, to say the least. The basis of his career.
Lore of Lord Halifax - Appeasement & Peace with The Third Reich Documentary momentum 100
A soundly balanced profile of a difficult man,spoiled by the Keynes mispronunciation.
...Eastern third of Polonia ? CCCP took 52% !
Lord Holy Fox as Churchill called him.