I just love the fact that there is communication between these two softwares. It's a first solid step because enscape covers the RT gap that v-ray lacks. Great content as always bro 👊🏿👊🏿
Wait - are you sure Vray & Enscape are communicating? As far as I know, they aren't. SketchUp is working like a middleware, communicating with both -- however, neither rendering solution is communicating with the other.
I used these two softwares on my workflow, happy to see this new interaction and a good content creator team up with Chaos for work! Ps: your images and modeling never fails, on point as usual
With all due respect.. Great video but We need to simplify the rendering process and enscape had managed to do that. 2 programs just seems like a complicated workflow. I hope chaos invests more time to improve enscape rather than put more time into a 2 software workflow
Thanks for your comment Viswesh! I understand your point of view. The way I see this workflow is more in situations where two different offices/teams work in the same project. I see some advantages when the 3d artist doesn't start from scratch and the design team already has some ideas. But I understand how it can get confusing, hopefully in the coming months Chaos can communicate their ideas on this workflow
Great video, but in addition to the complexity of the workflow, I would like to add that this workflow needs a pc with very high strength that is rarely available to anyone. For this is more practically to use just one program.
@@ShowItBetter I def agree with you. Those exactly happen in my office. Me as an concept architect would like to catch the vibe, and see my ideas immediately so that I using Enscape. After that, the 3D team get 3D file from us and redering by Vray which give us detail photos. This's really make sense when you work in urban planning field.
I see very little real world scenarios in which this will done in real world projects. either you have a budget for high end render to start from vray or you need a simple solution like enscape. I dont see a complicated case that might require investing in 2 softwares and 2 software teams. Maybe the architects use enscape to share walk-arounds and vr but if the flients need a vray realstic render this will go to a pro visualization company that wont bother starting with that enscape model.. A more logical workflow is just add the vray engine to enscape allowing you to get a hybrid enscape vray render for projects who don't have the budget to outsource to a pro vray team. This will be enscape with just more realistic lighting final render for slightly longer render time with better results all inside enscape. No extra knowledge needed.
This reminds me of how Autodesk bought Lightscape only to kill it to push 3D Studio Viz (old hand showing). Enscape has its utility and users can work it to its limits, the over-interoperability is, for me, unnecessary. Your mileage varies between apps but best results lie with pursuing a simpler workflow. Speed and seamlessness for all the teams I've worked with was actually helped by moving away from VRay, to Lumion, then Enscape, and now to D5 Render. So much so that there is now a great balance for speed and realism on a shortened workflow whilst spending more time to design.
Another great video man, thanks for the tips once again. I've been an Enscape user for a while now, but this can help a lot on the process of going bit extra easier
@@ShowItBetter Yeah, I do! It's actually one of my next goals, but I always end up postponing it, because of it's price haha. I'm an architecture student in Mexico, and I work allong the lines of arch viz with some local architects, but I just don´t make enough money to pay for the licence yet (the student version is still a bit expensive, since the money I make goes for my college expenses rn). So, I am really hopping that Chaos also take a similar path on the student version of Enscape now that they are partners 😂. But I'm getting there, hopefully in one of the next comments you answer me, you'll find out I'm already a V-Ray user 🤔let's see.. Thank's a lot for your tips man, you are actually one of the reasons I'm able to make some money rn. So keep it up with the high quality content, you're helping a lot of people.
From discussions I've had with various people in the forums, I get the feeling there is a reluctance from v-ray to share with enscape and it will likely be a one way deal (enscape to v-ray only), and this is very disappointing. If there is reciprocal sharing then I don't think it will be for a long time so I'll probably end up switching to TM, or maybe D5, as a result.
Enscape can simply have a Ray Traced Engine built in it to achieve quality results, Enscape for Rhino 7 still haven't fixed material displaying in the Enscape Viewport, first let them fix that then we can get into Photorealism. I don't think clients pay extra for photrealism in any studio, If they are paying then we can commit on this.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I definitely see your point about the importance of Enscape fixing any bugs before implementing more advanced features. Regarding photorealism, it really depends on the client and the project. Some clients may not value it as much, while for others it could be a deciding factor. In any case, it's always good to have the option to create high-quality visuals for those who do value it.
From this demonstration vray obvsly took the lead here especially on the final render products comparison at the end this video. Enscape one is great too but the one produced by vray went to another extent
V-ray assets inside of Enscape would be the real deal! Seems like a long way to get there... Probably UE5 will get easier and easier and will replace this render engines
Do you have to have a decent system to run Vray? Cause I've created some pretty decent scenes with TM but they always never do it justice cause I can only render using integrated graphics with my current system, so no RTX to do ray tracing. Is it the same with Vray?
With vray you can choose what components of your setup you want to do the heavy work, this can be either full CPU, full GPU, or a mix of both. Personally for this project I only used my CPU to render (and ryzen 7 3800-x)
Both are great. But in a rigid pipeline Enscape (or any other like D5, twinmotion etc) works far better and faster. Plus: it just makes me angry the time and money spent on chaosgroup softwares that couldn't get any better (accessible most importantly) their products in 15 years.
I agree to some extent, Vray is far easier than it was a few years ago! With Chaos Cosmos and progressive rendering, Vray still has some serious advantages over all of its competitors. I consider myself an intermediate Vray user, and with very basic knowledge of the program in less than two days, good images were made. That being said, Enscape has the upper hand on speed and usability, the default quality is soo good!
@@ShowItBetter When Corona came out was a blessing... Then Chaos Group decided to take down the competitor by buyin it... Only after they became a far usable software (less bugs, more functions etc...) more attractive than before. This, for me, was a bit of a harsh develop: by buyin Corona they developed really basic ideas that other software houses had before. They buyed the competitor only because Corona wasn't well prepared to compete but had enormous potential, far better than chaos group :/ So I think they ruined my dreams ahah
Enscapes Achilles heal much like Lumion is it’s a dead end. Enscape can’t get beyond basic scenes because of how the .GLTF file system works. I suspect its creators of Enscape see that. Try doing a big campus with it. The venture capitalist who invest in these companies initiated the partnership between the two companies to stop Enscapes marketing practices against V-Ray. Enscape took a chunk of the market through over starting its capabilities. Enscape is great for early learners don’t get me wrong, but Chaos gameplay is to absorb this tool as they have already begun to do. Chaos holds 60% market share across Vis and Media and easy button Arcvis complete their ecosystem. I think you should learn all the tools, but realize V-Ray is the industry leading tool and always will be.
Hi there! Great content, helping me alot but the thing I am struggling with to create environments for your exterior renders. Can we get a video about that please? Thanks;)
The fact that whatever u use, Vray, Corona or Enscape; they all are now coming from Chaos. Honestly, I dont like a company that spend money to take over its competitors to dominate the market. Look at Vray on 3ds max for years, no improvement, then Corona came out and people moved to this engine because of its simplicity and productivity. Same story on Sketchup, Enscape for Sketchup is powerful too. The fact that Chaos bought those two engines showed how bad they are. Hope that Chaos is still developing Corona as good as it used to be.
I dont get it. Run 2 render engine at the same time will cost your hardware. Imho you can finish your final rendering in either one of the software, no need both simultaneously running. If you want something like most people claimed to be 'accurate' and 'detail'.. just go straight for Vray and you don't need those low poly trees or assets from Enscape anymore. Vray final render ( detail & accurate ) with low poly assets from Enscape? I dont get it. And it sound stupid in term of workflow, money & time alongside with the hardware usage. ( sorry for my words, just to express my thought ).
Hi, firstly thank you for your great, useful content. It would be great if you could help me with my situation. I am applying for Politecnico Di Milano university. For the Architecture Bachelor’s program. I have to pass an entrance exam, therefore I need to study about architecture and have more useful information on it. Could you suggest some books? Specially books on basic knowledge and also It would be great if you could suggest a book or two about famous architectural works and their architects. It would mean the world to me if you could take the time and help me.
Sure, I'd be happy to help! For basic knowledge on architecture, "A Global History of Architecture" by Francis D. K. Ching and Mark M. Jarzombek is a great resource. "101 Things I Learned in Architecture School" by Matthew Frederick is also a popular book that covers the basics. For books on famous architectural works and their architects, I would suggest "Form, Space, and Order" by Francis D.K. Ching, which provides a comprehensive overview of architectural form and design. "Thinking Architecture" by Peter Zumthor is also a great book that explores the creative process behind architectural design. Good luck on your entrance exam, and I hope these book recommendations are helpful for you!
Hi there, I have been looking for the answer to a question, but I guess I don't have enough knowledge or skill about software to find my answer. I hope you guys or any other experts can help me to answer this question: In terms of realism, clarity, depth, or overall quality, is there a difference between Sketchup V-Ray and 3ds Max V-Ray renderings? Please help, if I can find the answer, I will have an idea of what direction I should keep going. I am good in Sketchup and learning V-Ray rending within it, but somehow I feel like others working with 3ds Max +V-Ray is always ahead! I am not sure if it is only about personal skills, or actually the difference between the two software.. Thanks a lot !
Hey Azad! Good question! From my POV, I have seen masters in arch viz work with 3d max or sketchup. Some can even make better images from Sketchup than 3d max. It's not going to guarantee better renderings one software or the other. What is going to guarantee that is how you handle each tool. On the other hand, if you have really complex projects in terms of geometry modeling and sorts, 3d max would be much better, but this doesnt necessarily improve your 3d renderings.
@@ShowItBetter Thanks for the answer boss. I was trying to say, if the exact same model is rendered in both Sketchup and 3DS Max vrays with similar settings (cant be exactly same settings, I guess), would they really look any different? Ever tried anything like that?
Hi Mariya! I’ve never tried the student license, so I’m not aware if it has features that are not available. Maybe you should try getting in contact with Enscape to see if maybe it was an installation issue 😀
In my workflow, I use Vray for exteriors and Enscape render for interiors. Enscape is quite good for interior renderings plus it's really fast.
How i change the ilumination, mine sucks in endscape
Great points Steve! Definitely excited to see what the collaboration between chaos and Enscape will bring 🙌
Yes! Tbh it’s a cool matchup I didn’t see coming !
I just love the fact that there is communication between these two softwares. It's a first solid step because enscape covers the RT gap that v-ray lacks. Great content as always bro 👊🏿👊🏿
Wait - are you sure Vray & Enscape are communicating? As far as I know, they aren't. SketchUp is working like a middleware, communicating with both -- however, neither rendering solution is communicating with the other.
thanks man! yeah, I think it's an interesting step in a new direction!
The „RT gap that V-Ray lacks“ is already covered by chaos Vantage.
@@L3nny666 - There are many options for real-time rendering, Chaos being just one of those many.
@@L3nny666 💯
I used these two softwares on my workflow, happy to see this new interaction and a good content creator team up with Chaos for work! Ps: your images and modeling never fails, on point as usual
thanks Diego!
the vray renders look absolutely sublime !! great video
thanks! appreciate it
With all due respect.. Great video but We need to simplify the rendering process and enscape had managed to do that. 2 programs just seems like a complicated workflow. I hope chaos invests more time to improve enscape rather than put more time into a 2 software workflow
Thanks for your comment Viswesh! I understand your point of view. The way I see this workflow is more in situations where two different offices/teams work in the same project. I see some advantages when the 3d artist doesn't start from scratch and the design team already has some ideas. But I understand how it can get confusing, hopefully in the coming months Chaos can communicate their ideas on this workflow
Great video, but in addition to the complexity of the workflow, I would like to add that this workflow needs a pc with very high strength that is rarely available to anyone.
For this is more practically to use just one program.
They make money with 2.
@@ShowItBetter I def agree with you. Those exactly happen in my office. Me as an concept architect would like to catch the vibe, and see my ideas immediately so that I using Enscape. After that, the 3D team get 3D file from us and redering by Vray which give us detail photos. This's really make sense when you work in urban planning field.
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I see very little real world scenarios in which this will done in real world projects. either you have a budget for high end render to start from vray or you need a simple solution like enscape. I dont see a complicated case that might require investing in 2 softwares and 2 software teams.
Maybe the architects use enscape to share walk-arounds and vr but if the flients need a vray realstic render this will go to a pro visualization company that wont bother starting with that enscape model..
A more logical workflow is just add the vray engine to enscape allowing you to get a hybrid enscape vray render for projects who don't have the budget to outsource to a pro vray team. This will be enscape with just more realistic lighting final render for slightly longer render time with better results all inside enscape. No extra knowledge needed.
This reminds me of how Autodesk bought Lightscape only to kill it to push 3D Studio Viz (old hand showing). Enscape has its utility and users can work it to its limits, the over-interoperability is, for me, unnecessary. Your mileage varies between apps but best results lie with pursuing a simpler workflow. Speed and seamlessness for all the teams I've worked with was actually helped by moving away from VRay, to Lumion, then Enscape, and now to D5 Render. So much so that there is now a great balance for speed and realism on a shortened workflow whilst spending more time to design.
so what do u use for rendring?
@@namnam7146 D5 Render
im glad, cuz i used these two softwares, hehe
Another great video man, thanks for the tips once again. I've been an Enscape user for a while now, but this can help a lot on the process of going bit extra easier
thanks Mike! do you see yourself using vray anytime soon?
@@ShowItBetter Yeah, I do! It's actually one of my next goals, but I always end up postponing it, because of it's price haha.
I'm an architecture student in Mexico, and I work allong the lines of arch viz with some local architects, but I just don´t make enough money to pay for the licence yet (the student version is still a bit expensive, since the money I make goes for my college expenses rn). So, I am really hopping that Chaos also take a similar path on the student version of Enscape now that they are partners 😂.
But I'm getting there, hopefully in one of the next comments you answer me, you'll find out I'm already a V-Ray user 🤔let's see..
Thank's a lot for your tips man, you are actually one of the reasons I'm able to make some money rn. So keep it up with the high quality content, you're helping a lot of people.
From discussions I've had with various people in the forums, I get the feeling there is a reluctance from v-ray to share with enscape and it will likely be a one way deal (enscape to v-ray only), and this is very disappointing. If there is reciprocal sharing then I don't think it will be for a long time so I'll probably end up switching to TM, or maybe D5, as a result.
I uses render passes and use highpoly trees and that made My Enscape rendering better. Enscape has to stepup tree models.
Sir, do both of them have advantages and disadvantages??
please explain a little in your opinion
finally you forced us to learn Vray :D :D 😅🤣🤣 Ok, Let the game begin :D
Great video!
Well tbh this is a dream come true for me.
2 softwares to pay for 1 rendering :(!!... So much softwares!... But thank you for the tips! The result is stunning and it's not complicated
thanks Mateus! haha I get your pov, maybe with time they'll refine the workflow process so it feels like one program instead of 2
Loved your work 😊❤️....I appreciate it....keep it up 👍🏻
Thanks Arya! Cheers ♥️
This is gonna make my cpu explode
Enscape can simply have a Ray Traced Engine built in it to achieve quality results, Enscape for Rhino 7 still haven't fixed material displaying in the Enscape Viewport, first let them fix that then we can get into Photorealism.
I don't think clients pay extra for photrealism in any studio, If they are paying then we can commit on this.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I definitely see your point about the importance of Enscape fixing any bugs before implementing more advanced features. Regarding photorealism, it really depends on the client and the project. Some clients may not value it as much, while for others it could be a deciding factor. In any case, it's always good to have the option to create high-quality visuals for those who do value it.
From this demonstration vray obvsly took the lead here especially on the final render products comparison at the end this video. Enscape one is great too but the one produced by vray went to another extent
although in terms of time, Enscape wins by miles!
V-ray assets inside of Enscape would be the real deal! Seems like a long way to get there... Probably UE5 will get easier and easier and will replace this render engines
I know right! If there would be compatibility on both ways it would be awesome!
What do you think of this video?
Love the tutorial gives best of both worlds, and could you let me know how you made the tree line as a panorama.
Feel the same
buen analisis! muchas gracias!
Amazing!!💌
Thanks!
Just wondering which versions of enscape and vray support this feature?
perfect, on point.
thanks!
How do you make the terrain in sketchup? hehe
Do you have to have a decent system to run Vray? Cause I've created some pretty decent scenes with TM but they always never do it justice cause I can only render using integrated graphics with my current system, so no RTX to do ray tracing. Is it the same with Vray?
With vray you can choose what components of your setup you want to do the heavy work, this can be either full CPU, full GPU, or a mix of both. Personally for this project I only used my CPU to render (and ryzen 7 3800-x)
Both are great. But in a rigid pipeline Enscape (or any other like D5, twinmotion etc) works far better and faster. Plus: it just makes me angry the time and money spent on chaosgroup softwares that couldn't get any better (accessible most importantly) their products in 15 years.
I agree to some extent, Vray is far easier than it was a few years ago! With Chaos Cosmos and progressive rendering, Vray still has some serious advantages over all of its competitors. I consider myself an intermediate Vray user, and with very basic knowledge of the program in less than two days, good images were made.
That being said, Enscape has the upper hand on speed and usability, the default quality is soo good!
@@ShowItBetter When Corona came out was a blessing... Then Chaos Group decided to take down the competitor by buyin it... Only after they became a far usable software (less bugs, more functions etc...) more attractive than before. This, for me, was a bit of a harsh develop: by buyin Corona they developed really basic ideas that other software houses had before. They buyed the competitor only because Corona wasn't well prepared to compete but had enormous potential, far better than chaos group :/ So I think they ruined my dreams ahah
I can't see enscape asset when I render in vray 6 , i am using window 11. Do u know answer sir plz
I also have the same problem, have you found the solution, bro? (':
Enscapes Achilles heal much like Lumion is it’s a dead end. Enscape can’t get beyond basic scenes because of how the .GLTF file system works. I suspect its creators of Enscape see that. Try doing a big campus with it. The venture capitalist who invest in these companies initiated the partnership between the two companies to stop Enscapes marketing practices against V-Ray. Enscape took a chunk of the market through over starting its capabilities. Enscape is great for early learners don’t get me wrong, but Chaos gameplay is to absorb this tool as they have already begun to do. Chaos holds 60% market share across Vis and Media and easy button Arcvis complete their ecosystem. I think you should learn all the tools, but realize V-Ray is the industry leading tool and always will be.
Hi there! Great content, helping me alot but the thing I am struggling with to create environments for your exterior renders. Can we get a video about that please?
Thanks;)
your comment is very good
They should merge thim into one renderer: Rayscape 😁
how the models you add from enscape are shown in v-ray render , when i do that it its apear white in vray
hi bro, I also have the same problem, have you found the solution? (':
I can't see enscape asset when I render in vray 6 , i am using window 11
Just 3 quick buttons! Turn your computer into a custom helicopter!
I can feel my PC overheating and then crash at 3:18 💀
haha it can happen
The fact that whatever u use, Vray, Corona or Enscape; they all are now coming from Chaos. Honestly, I dont like a company that spend money to take over its competitors to dominate the market. Look at Vray on 3ds max for years, no improvement, then Corona came out and people moved to this engine because of its simplicity and productivity. Same story on Sketchup, Enscape for Sketchup is powerful too. The fact that Chaos bought those two engines showed how bad they are. Hope that Chaos is still developing Corona as good as it used to be.
I dont get it. Run 2 render engine at the same time will cost your hardware. Imho you can finish your final rendering in either one of the software, no need both simultaneously running. If you want something like most people claimed to be 'accurate' and 'detail'.. just go straight for Vray and you don't need those low poly trees or assets from Enscape anymore. Vray final render ( detail & accurate ) with low poly assets from Enscape? I dont get it. And it sound stupid in term of workflow, money & time alongside with the hardware usage. ( sorry for my words, just to express my thought ).
I agree with you, this workflow makes no sense.
My computer would simply explode if I run those three programs at the same time...
Hi, firstly thank you for your great, useful content. It would be great if you could help me with my situation.
I am applying for Politecnico Di Milano university. For the Architecture Bachelor’s program. I have to pass an entrance exam, therefore I need to study about architecture and have more useful information on it.
Could you suggest some books?
Specially books on basic knowledge and also It would be great if you could suggest a book or two about famous architectural works and their architects.
It would mean the world to me if you could take the time and help me.
Sure, I'd be happy to help! For basic knowledge on architecture, "A Global History of Architecture" by Francis D. K. Ching and Mark M. Jarzombek is a great resource. "101 Things I Learned in Architecture School" by Matthew Frederick is also a popular book that covers the basics.
For books on famous architectural works and their architects, I would suggest "Form, Space, and Order" by Francis D.K. Ching, which provides a comprehensive overview of architectural form and design. "Thinking Architecture" by Peter Zumthor is also a great book that explores the creative process behind architectural design.
Good luck on your entrance exam, and I hope these book recommendations are helpful for you!
Hi there,
I have been looking for the answer to a question, but I guess I don't have enough knowledge or skill about software to find my answer. I hope you guys or any other experts can help me to answer this question:
In terms of realism, clarity, depth, or overall quality, is there a difference between Sketchup V-Ray and 3ds Max V-Ray renderings? Please help, if I can find the answer, I will have an idea of what direction I should keep going.
I am good in Sketchup and learning V-Ray rending within it, but somehow I feel like others working with 3ds Max +V-Ray is always ahead! I am not sure if it is only about personal skills, or actually the difference between the two software.. Thanks a lot !
Hey Azad! Good question! From my POV, I have seen masters in arch viz work with 3d max or sketchup. Some can even make better images from Sketchup than 3d max. It's not going to guarantee better renderings one software or the other. What is going to guarantee that is how you handle each tool. On the other hand, if you have really complex projects in terms of geometry modeling and sorts, 3d max would be much better, but this doesnt necessarily improve your 3d renderings.
@@ShowItBetter Thanks for the answer boss. I was trying to say, if the exact same model is rendered in both Sketchup and 3DS Max vrays with similar settings (cant be exactly same settings, I guess), would they really look any different? Ever tried anything like that?
Hey i have students licence but on my enscape the depth field option is hide same with multiple assets vegetation.. any reason of that?
Hi Mariya! I’ve never tried the student license, so I’m not aware if it has features that are not available. Maybe you should try getting in contact with Enscape to see if maybe it was an installation issue 😀
But with Vantage, Enscape now becomes irrelevant. Right?
enscape once are better
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