Quinacridone Red PR209 Watercolor Comparison - Daniel Smith, Roman Szmal, Sennelier, Mijello
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I looooooove this color
yesss RS is the one currently in my palette!
@@PaintinHiding oh seeing the video, quin cherry red is the paint you are swatching! :D I though it would be quin red 8D nevermind, all of them are so pretty
Ahhhhh Vee, thank you for this comparison. Roman Szmal Cherry quinacridone was the first ever PR209 I ever used. That colour is so soft and pretty but the texture frustrated me so much; it was as you described and also felt gummy to me. I now use Sennelier's and really love it. I still have to finish the RS cherry quin one but only if mixing it PY150 for some really pretty quin gold hues.
despite all of that about RS, i do think it dries well. i'm currently using it in my palette and loving it more now.
Thank you for comparing 🥰 Holbein's version is nice as well little more pinkish than daniel smith
hey E4! that's very good to know as i've been thinking i might get holbein after i finish all my pr209s. thank you!
@@PaintinHidingHolbein's PR209 is Quin Scarlet? You got me very curious now about PR 209 from various brands 😁
OMG when you swatched the Sennelier! 🤤🤤🤤🤤 AND I just finished the video of the Rosemary and Co brushes from Sketches N Scrubs😉😉😉😉
hehe~ ;D
Oh I’m glad I went with the Sennelier for my Quin red rather than the RS. I like it much better when I look at them next to each other. Thanks for the comparison!
I did buy specifically Pr 209 Quin Red with MGraham. It’s a pretty red and DAVinci has a 209 Quin red. My DS Quin Red is a PV19. But pretty also. I believe the MGraham is nice and a bit cooler than the DAVinci but it could be my swatches. I would say the color is very similar but MGraham seemed to go down on the paper with a bit more pigmentation.
Thanks for the comparison. I have DS quin coral based on your videos and I go between that and Sennelier’s French vermillion as my warm red. I’ve never been a fan of the usual scarlet so I’m glad to have these 2 lovely options.
yeahh i feel you on scarlet... warm reds in general for me, but pr209 is fine by me hehe
This is one of my favorite colors. I also love using it for painting underwater coral scenes, or watering it down and using it as a pink. Mixed with a small touch of Dioxazine Violet, then some white it makes a perfect almost dusty amaranth color. I currently have just the Daniel Smith version, but I hope to try the Sennelier version next. It's really a versatile and useful color to stumble upon. I remember swatching the dot card, seeing this and then my next blick order had that in the cart xD
underwater?! that's intriguing! i'll need to try that dioxazine violet mix too, thank u for the suggestion!
Thank you! Definitely that's my experience with PR209 from Roman Szmal ;). I prefer their Pyrrol Scarlet and Scarlet Red for warm red. My favorite PR209 is M Graham's Quinacridone Red but don't like the stickiness of the brand so I am trying out Maimeri Blu's Quin Red now and going to see how PR207 Schmincke Quin Red Light compares.
i have PR207 from rembrandt and it's definitely a different feel but i honestly dont mind it as it would take the same spot inn my palette as a warm red. ooooohhh ur trying Maimeri's PR209? how is it so far? their PB15:4 bubbles so much on me.
I also love this color. I have the version of Winsor and Newton and Holbein, both lovelly. Schmincke makes Quinacridone red light with PR207, a bit lighter than the others. But my favorite is Sennelier's, no doubt.
Thank you for your videos.
Juicy color ❤
My palette need this
Thanks for your video
Definitely recommend PR209 but invest in a small tube which you can use to make custom colours should you wish especially with PY150 for golden oranges or Daniel Smith py139 a wide range of orange hues that resemble Rembrandt's Benzimidazole orange PO72 to vermillion hue (that deep red orange) It works well will dioxazine purple to get an attractive red purple and neutralises well with pthalo turquoise/pthalo aqua green. Plays well with warm earth tones too. I used Sennelier PR209 for my tests and even tried it with Sennelier orange PO73 and it gave me soft orange red hues that reminded me of pink grapefruit. All in all, whichever brand you choose, that PR209 will not sit idle in your palette. 💕
@@meh.5050 Wow! Thanks a lot for your recommendations! I will try)))
@@user-fw7mx2vy6f hehe😊💕my pleasure
I use sennelier and I love it. I recently bought DS too but I haven’t painted with it. I like pr209 for portraits.
aliiiice~ hihi~ i have DS is my 2023 palette and have been loving using it, you will too ;D
Hehehe this color is so cute. I have W&N and Roman Szmal’s. I think I should go with Sennelier because how you brushed it on looked smooooooth.😮💨
i have it in winsor newton and love it. looks most similar to the ds as least through the screen. i love my sennelier paints but it's a little frustrating how so many of its colors are far from matching my other brands.
I have DS and M. Graham. I like them both but DS is warmer and less pigmented I find.
ohhh good tto know it's warmer than mgraham~ thank you johanne ;D
Lovely color! Looks quite consistent too. I have the Mijello but I avoided using it for years because it remained very sticky in the pan. Now I use it without problems, I just fill the pan only halfway. The pinks are great for portraits and florals. It's a color that makes me think of my sister because her room was always painted a hibiscus color thats close to how Pr209 washes out. In my current palette it sits between pyrrole orange and quin magenta.
yesss rather consistent across brands. awwwwww ur sis's room sounds lovely! :D
This is one of my favorite colors. I also have the same pigment in Turner Watercolors (Quin Red is the color name). It looks like Daniel Smith in the warmness of the masstone, but does not appear to have as much pigment, which is not surprising for the price difference. Interesting comparison. Thanks!
Noooooo! I forgot about this video and went to bed 😢
Totally agree with what you said at the beginning, my palette came with pr254 and I hated how opaque it was and how it didn't mix well (imo). I went and bought Daniel Smith's quin coral and my mind was blown! Definitely one of my fav colors based on how pretty it is and the beautiful mixes it makes. Great video 😊
yes! finally someone understands me and PR254 as opaque! tthank you candid crafter!
I really love the PR209s! Based on your swatches in this video, my favorite is Mijello.
I just bought the DV (Da Vinci) one and I’m excited to use it. Just debating if I can get away with it being the only red on my palette. I don’t use red that often and don’t think I need a warm and a cool and/or a rose. I currently have DS Pyrrol Scarlet (which I do really like), WN Permanent Rose (I rarely use), and DV Perylene Maroon (hate it! Going to remove it but do think I’ll use it to make a diy black with Phthalo green). So thinking of dropping all of it and just using PR209. I tested it with blue and yellow and seemed like it successfully makes decent oranges AND purples.
I have the DS and I love it!
high five!
I don't remember if I commented before. I have versions from Holbein, Roman Szmal and M. Graham. I have settled on the M. Graham version because I work from tubes and it was easier to get... I think the milky look when wet is a characteristic of the pigment, and it is present in all versions I own. This milkiness goes away once it dries.
wow, i guess it's difficult for us to compare since we both only have roman szmal's that's the same between the two of us. i agree that the milkiness goes away once it dries for the RS. the other PR209 brands that are shown here don't have that same milkiness so now i'm wondering if the three brands that you have maybe have used the same binder, who knows. but thank you for your inputt!
This is my go-to bright red, it’s got a nice balance of transparent brightness in thin washes and great mass tone n heavy layers, and since I became obsessed with handmade watercolors I noticed not a lot of paint makers will offer coral red. I finally found one and am so happy to have my personal favorite red in my handmade palette too! For professional brands I use Daniel Smith though it’s available easily in my area so that’s what I went with
definitely! always shop local when possible~ :D
These pigment colors drive me crazy. I stocked up on pinks for a floral painting class and am kind of sad that DS Quin Red if PV19. I can't figure out how they can make so many colors from PV19! The permanent rose PV19 is my favorite color because it's so high chroma and lightfast, but now I'm going to need some PV209. BTW, Holbein uses PV209 for their brilliant pink, along with PW6, and it's a lovely light pink cheater color.
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@@PaintinHiding 😄
@@TracyIndy hi Tracy 👋🏼 😃. Indeed, very early! I thought I’d take my seat before the show starts. 😂
@@MrsBarnabas Hi MrsB 👋🏼 👋🏼. Sorry, I just saw your message now 😊. See you tomorrow, if I’m not too sleepy 😄.
JUST got some Quin RED (PV19) from DS this afternoon. I’m sending it to my daughter. It just wasn’t what I was looking for. I’d also ordered the Sennelier (PR209) and I SHOULD be getting it tomorrow. It says it’s transparent. I got DS Perylene Red today too…while I had ordered the P Maroon, I think I’ll keep this one. (PR178)
ohhh now i'm interested to know if u prefer tthe sennelier one :D
@@PaintinHiding I DO!! LOVE IT & going to get some for my daughter & best friend!
I’m having…..issues with DS lately. Between what my tutor in China found in some of their primateks…and my Potters pink? Seems like it barely has any pigment in it. I ordered some from a young lady who makes her own. I’ve been happy with most of the paints she sent me (including an extra large, over-filled pan of PO49 😁. NOW I know what all the fuss is about! 😂)
I have the M Graham PR 209 that they call Quin Red, I think it's closest to Sennelier but I'll be getting a sample of DS soon so I'll be able to tell better.
oohh i wonder if it is so!
Great comparison, I just wish you had the Winsor & Newton version too :). It's amazing how calming your voice and videos are, they feel like ASMR videos to me and I love it
thank you for ur kind words~ i never thought i’d be calming 😂 dont watch my art haul vids, definitely not calm 😂 i doubt i’ll feature anymore w&n on my channel as jacksons dont ship them to thailand anymore
@@PaintinHiding That's a shame :/ Winsor & Newton should ship them to you for a review, it would be highly beneficial for them :) I shall proceed to watch your art haul videos, challenge accepted :')
Nice! I just got mine from white nights (385) Quin. Scarlet, like other white nights color they perform well and very pigmented. Comparing the color base on my monitor color, pretty much like Mijello and wash down like a strawberry red-ish...
ah u must be somewhere russia still sends things to. i believe pr209 is one of white nights' new colours, but not many have access tto the new colours due to the war and lasting conflict
I love PR 209! But when I first bought it, I hated it... as well as Azo Green, which I bought at the same time. These are mixing colors that need to grow on you. PR 209 is so unusual that it has both cool and warm undertones. It is the best red for a CYM palette in my opinion. Although, it is rather low in tinting strength, and strangely the M. Graham is rather weak. I have the M Graham, DaVinci, and Mission Gold. I actually like DaVinci the best; it's the most pigmented and totally smooth. M. Graham and Mjello have some texture to them. The Sennelier looks quite different, that's fascinating!
I also have the PR 207 from Qor but it's quite warm and I'm not super fond of it.
Hey you have a kolinsky brush now, you must have gotten more from Rosemary? (Sorry, I have not been able to keep up on your videos lately.)
hey jenn! miss you! hope you've been well~ no worries for not keeping up. i have lots of content i've fallen behind on as well. and yes, i've got several more brushes from rosemary. probably need to do an updated brush collection some time. not any time soon though. i've been laying low on brush videos because they take a lot of work but hardly anyone watches them.
I just bought the DV one. Glad to hear it’s a winner.
Also, would you ever consider making a list of pigment numbers and what companies like to call them? Or do you know a good reference for it that doesn't use just the scientific names for them? That also lists the names that art suppliers give them?
Oto Kano and Kim Crick have great pigment database websites like that and cross list by brand too. :). Enjoy.
@derwood206 thank you! I can't believe I didn't remember Dr Oto, I'm subscribed to her and I've heard her talk about the database!
for other databases, checkout sunandcolors.com run by @lanagoesart and google sadtuna, they have a website database as well ;D
@@PaintinHiding Thank you!!
@@PaintinHiding thank you!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who found Roman Szmal cherry quin red a bit meh and what's with the white stuff in them. The quin reds are the only ones i have from RS that does that. I was really disappointed with it.
hi grannie annie ;D another viewer mentioned that RS supposedly puts brighteners in their formula so the white stuff mightt be brightener? i dont know.
Interesting, I thought Daniel Smith had both red and coral… Red being PV 19 and coral being PR 209.… The coral 209 that I have is very peachy coral and not red at all, where the red is a classic cherry and although it’s PV 19 it is not anywhere near magenta. Love the Sennelier :-)
Hey, Vee! Interesting video. PR209 confuses me! Is your video color corrected? My Sennelier is definitely a red with a pinkish wash, but my pan of Roman Szmal PR209 is definitely a salmon coral color. It is neither red nor cherry. Whenever I see it swatched on UA-cam it looks red, but mine is not. Is the salmon color how it actually looks, or did I get a weird pan?🤔
yeah, RS does things to their colours that make it a bit diff to everyone else. i call it milk, @awatercolourist said maybe the brighteners RS uses. we'll never know. my RS PR209 is a warm red with a slight pink undertone. i can't quite say if it's salmon because i do feel like some people say salmon is pink some say salmon is orange. lol
I ordered some Holbein Quin Red, and to my dismay it's made with PV19 not PV209. They call their PV209 something different now. Guess I'm going to need to get some DS quin coral if anyone ever has it in stock. Ugh.
holbein's PR209 is called quin scarlet i believe.
Is this considered as mid red too?....i compared it to vermilion and scarlet, this one is a bit cooler and at the same time it is cooler that crimson, perm Alizarine crimson, and other cool red pigments....
hmm, generally speaking i would consider it a warm red but then again, colour is relative so it depends what you compare it to.
@@PaintinHiding cause, i wanna add a mid red to my professional palette and hord some good mid red for collection... I dont have any mid red so yah.... Anyway maam, thanks for this..... I prefer them as mid red for they are really in the middle for me compare to vermilion, pyrrol scarlet, and other warm reds that i have.... Thanks again ang good day! 😊
Roman Szmal himself mentioned that he adds brighteners to his paints. That might be the whitish substance you see.
ahhh is that so?! thanks for the info! that's good to know~