Wilno Murders: Why Didn't We Know? - the fifth estate
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- Опубліковано 25 вер 2024
- In a matter of hours last September, three women - Anastasia Kuzyk, Nathalie Warmerdam and Carol Culleton - were killed near the small town of Wilno, Ontario. The man arrested and accused of their murders, Basil Borutski had a long criminal history, including charges involving two of the three women. How did the system that’s supposed to protect women go so disastrously wrong? Gillian Findlay investigates, with revealing interviews with family members, friends of victims and witnesses.
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When I was between 3 and 5 years old my mother was seeing a guy who beat her often. He once kidnapped her beat her to pulp. When we had to be around him we where always afraid. One evening he called our apartment and I can here my mom pleading to him not to come over. Seconds later she hussled my brother, sister along with two cousins who where visiting and ran around the corner to my aunts house. No sooner than we arrived he was knocking at the door demanding that my mother come outside, while wearing only a pair of shorts with a gun stuffed inside. My uncle demanded that he leave and said they called the police, so he left. The entire night we slepted under the beds. The following day, front page news, he had kidnapped his other girlfriend and had taken her to a parking lot where he shot her in the back paralizing from the waist down, then he turned the gun on himself by blowing his brains out. This will always be with me and my family, though I wish it wasn't. Men, and some women, that show violate tendencies should be taken seriously and avoided at all cost. My mother's experience happened in the 70's so it's shocking that not much has changed for the better.
This is my truth.
Omg. Such a trauma
That could’ve been your mom, or even you! Wow
Bless your heart
Vincent Williams very sorry bro
Wow! I can only imagine how scary and awful that was for you and your family. I’m sorry you had to go through that, but glad to hear y’all made it out alive!
He refused to sign the restraining order, and they let him out of jail? What kind of a court system Canada has?
Miriam K what kind of PM do you have? It starts at the top!
That, alone, should have been grounds to drag him back to a prison cell.
Look up the Documentary Dear Zachary if you want to learn about the failings of the Canadian criminal justice system.
@beispielsweise weise is not funny though
A Left-wing system.
He refused to sign a Protection Order upon only serving 5 months of a possible 17 months???!! WHY WAS HE RELEASED? You forfeit your right to an early release!! You don't get to walk free after not agreeing to the clause that put you in jail. The law failed all these women.
Exactly!! And then when he didn't follow his probation orders not a single person did anything... Disgusting.
Its sad but since watching all these crime videos on the fifth estate... Ive learned one thing... The Canadian police are awful just awful.
All I can say is WE NEED MORE FEMALE JUDGES damnit
Refused to sign 🤦🏽♂️ how is that not an immediate violation smh
Bc there's apparently no parole or probation systems either. 🤷♀️ 🤦🏼♀️
That judge is accountable for letting him off the hook.
mike A and I am sure the Judge was frustrated with the guidelines too.
@mike A yea I agree
The judge did everything by the book and in as accordance with the true spirit of the law. Criminals have rights too, and we need to treat them well.
@mike A when he did sign the judge could of done something then, also the probation officer is also accountable
@@AK-tx1vg over time criminals are getting more consideration than law abiding citizens.
UPDATE:
Borutski was sentenced to life w/o parole for 70 years. May his 3 victims rest in peace, and may their families have peace now.
Mac 101 the judge who let him out should also receive 70 yrs.
@Dee
That's for damn sure!
@@Fee212 a1a1a
@June Belgrave
Great punishment for the safety and lives of women everywhere, eh?
This would have been done years ago. These ladies lost their lives for no reason
How do you just refuse to sign a no contact order? They should've made him stay in jail.
Exactly what i was thinking
Eat the Rich awwwaw
J pvy ty ji
For sure!
Exactly
"it's the kind of crime that suppose to not happen in a small town"
Introduction of every murder cases
I know. I drives me crazy when they say that.
Really, right? I'm surprised that, now-a-days, people think they are safe ANYwhere.
My other favorite start is”Young, beautiful and did not deserve to be killed”......who deserves it?! Then there is the “Loved by all that met them”.
@@michelefulmore5817 That's one of my favorites too.
Sandra Whitlock you girl are my kindred spirit ❤️💜
Here in the US, domestic abuse wasn't even acknowledged until the latter part of the 70's. I should know, I watched my mom get abused day in and day out by my "sperm donor." Every single time that they were called, they did absolutely nothing towards him except to ask my mom what did she do to upset him. The last and final time that he extremely harmed my mom was on 7-4-77 when he had set her on fire in front of my sister and me and that's when WE ran to the chief of police, who lived down the block, and told him what had happened and that's when they went after him. Soon after, my mom left him for good. IF she stayed with him, he would've eventually killed her and that I'm sure of.
RIP To ALL those whom lost their lives to domestic abuse/violence. May ALL of you receive the justice you so longed for. I pray for their families in hopes that God gives each of them the strength to stand up to the abuser and to keep their loved one's memory alive!!!?
God bless you all ❤️
Sorry u and your mom n sis had to go through such a horrific experience, but I truly don’t believe abusive men can be rehabilitated
Lol
I am so sorry for your mom and family. My heart goes out to you. You are all brave. I’ll never forget your story. God bless and take care of you all.
That's terrible! I'm sorry to hear that. 😣😣😣
When he refused to sign the restraining order he should have been held for psychiatric evaluation or back to jail. These women weren't killed by a mentally deranged individual. They were killed by judges and parole officers, none of whom were interviewed by CBC, for this program. We don't need to rewrite the law but we do need to enforce it rigorously.
+ironpirites I agree. I'm in shock that you can actually refuse to sign a parole form and still get paroled. This was obviously not an oversight because they specifically wrote in "refused to sign" where his signature was to go. This almost implies it's nothing unusual, business as usual.
I also find it odd that his record, or the ostensible lack thereof, is relevant when he should have been charged and tried for attempted murder after the beating of Anastasia. I just don't get it.
ironpirites Since when is a court order optional? I must have missed that memo. There were many failures along the way, even that counselor who had his file and said this was more than situational domestic violence, even he was kind of nonchalant, he just sent an email and that's it? He should have been blowing the horn loud, maybe even emailed the judge since he of all people should have appreciated the gravity of the situation. Just mind blowing.
zwergie256 Law enforcement related to domestic strife is difficult and when you throw in issues of mental illness it is even harder, but when you add failure of officials to prosecute parole violations and failure to enforce court orders, law enforcement becomes impossible.
ironpirites That is very true. It's disturbing because you'd think the mental illness, and consequently the cardinal importance of enforcement, would have been obvious given this all played out in a small community. Just tragic
They were killed by their own poor choice of romantic partner.
If he refused to sign the release papers then he cant be released. Thats a major mistake.
Man this guy was the ultimate “nice guy.” Gets upset when he doesn’t get his way, plays the victim, and tries to gaslight others. Truly pathetic.
Sounds like most people, men and women, of today.
@@hazelhadley-britt6396 That’s just you sis
@@hazelhadley-britt6396 nope
parenting is the main reason to anyone's behaviour
gaslight? yeah he definitely seems to have no fuel
Why is signing a restraining order optional?
And why the hell would they release him after that refusal. I mean was practically screaming he was going to get this woman. And they let him leisurely go like his offense was a Traffic Violation.
And how meaningful can it be if it can't be enforced, and only has meaning AFTER the victim is dead?
Exactly right!!!
Not signing the order does not invalidate it. Just like a traffic ticket, you don't have to sign however you're still liable for it. There were so many signs of impending peril with this monster that it should have been taken more seriously. He wears his psychosis on his sleeve. Such sad loss of life
Signing a damn piece of paper wouldn’t stop him anyway, but I agree they shouldn’t have let him loose when he refused to sign it.
Something similar happened to my first cousin. She started staying with us when she was around 9 or 10,I was a year younger than her. When she turned 20 she moved to North Carolina and ended up in an abusive marriage. She had her husband arrested for domestic violence. He was released from jail and she wasn't notified. Within an hour of his release my cousin was murdered. He went to her place of work, which was a hair salon. Her husband walked into the salon and shot her in the back of the head while fixing a customers hair. My cousin never knew what hit her
The police said she passed before hitting the ground. Then her husband shot and killed himself. Crystal was 26 when she was killed and could possibly be alive right now of she would've been told about his release. I miss her dearly!!
MultIplay3r I’m so sorry to hear this, 😔may she Rest In Peace. I hope you can help others & change laws in your area to prevent this from happening.
I'm so sorry 🥺
MultIplay3r how freakin tragic! Wow. That was so easily preventable. I am so sorry for you and your family and all of Crystals loved ones🙏💔
❤️
I'm so sorry this happened and that the criminal justice system failed her and your family
When are we going to start calling the judges who give these lenient sentences to account?
Melanie Maguire unfortunately this will never happen 😢
This is where liberalism takes you. They are for prison reform aka let the criminals out of prison because it's too harsh.
I feel like they need to be judged.
Melanie Maguire never
It should start with you. You saw this accounting yet you don’t send an email or recruit grass roots.
He's a narcassist. Blame shifting, speaking in circles, playing the victim, he is even rude to the reporter. The question was not that hard. It's a simple yes or no.
Not every criminal is a narcissist, did you just hear that in your first year in college? 😂 it’s like women just call every convict a narcissist and think it makes them sound smart. 🙄🤫
@@a-aron4tw849 to suggest that I am calling him a narcissist because he is a criminal or because I am a woman is discriminatory. You even go on to formulate that I said this because I heard it in school, which indicates a preconceived notion of why I might come to these conclusions so there for since you have formulated your own assumptions instead of asking a question, suggest to venting and not looking for a real answer.
However, I am not the one. I am open to real conversations but not preconceived notions.
LOLITAprice24 so when did you learn the word narcissism then? Also “therefore” is one word (I thought that part was funny, because you were trying to look smart). On top of that you just seem to regurgitate what other commentators are saying (as if we need to hear your opinion, especially an unoriginal one). I didn’t ask a legit question because I had no intention of hearing from you. I made it clear that to ME , in MY opinion: your comment seemed unoriginal and it made me laugh internally. It may come from a past of seeing people when they’re trying to look smart, and yes I perceived you to be one of those losers, so I said something. Then all of a sudden it’s discriminatory of me to call it like I see it. So at this point I’ll be clear. Tome you sound dumb, I’m not asking you any questions, so I have ZERO desire for you to respond as I’m sure it would make me dumber for hearing your opinion. Bye Felicia.
@@a-aron4tw849 thanks.
The hell happened here? Of course not every criminal is a narcissist, nor every narcissist a criminal. Doesn't look like OP said anything like that.
Imagine the horror of being beaten within an inch of your life, then being told you took the beating for all those other women who'd wronged him, and realizing only then, that none of those women he'd told you about had actually wronged him. That he'd beaten them all.
DrtS dare r dr deer deta rere
true that maergie
40:33 He's still playing victim. Unbelievable. Please Canada: do not release this man. Not ever.
actually, he is enjoying the attention demanding a ten hour interview.
@@lazydaisy4453 A 10 hour interview so he can lay the framework as to why he's the victim. He's deluded!
@@TiberiusStorm he is indeed deluded
I think he got something like 73 years, the only way he's getting out will be in a pine box.... Horizontal.
Capital punishment is the only way to prevent murderers like him to get out on streets again.
Ladies, please be careful who you let into your life.. If people warn you, believe it.. If you see red flags, leave.
Same advice for men
welshhibby Was about to say the samething....
Nope. Try this instead: _Men, don't be pussies._
@@welshhibby Yes. Look at Lori Vallow's (sp?) husband. He tried really hard to save himself and the children. The police did nothing. Honestly, legally, there was nothing they could do. It seems like this happens so often now. Perhaps, that's not true. Perhaps, we just hear about these sort of events now because of social media. It is really very sad.
So comments like that come off as victim shaming. These women were dating a man who presented himself as one person and ended up being another. They left him and contacted authorities, they were careful and he chose to murder them.
Wow, her daughter is only 18 and she is very mature and articulate. Impressive work dad
yes leaving his family and moving to california. Great commitment in sickness and in health
@General Shakoor somebody who thinks if you are going to divorce your wife when you hit your midlife crisis, you shouldn't be married?
@@SubtitledArabicSongs are people not allowed to fall out of love with their s/o’s? it wasn’t his fault that any of this happened
@@SubtitledArabicSongs your some what right but on the Other hand.. It's not your job to judge
She really is wonderful!
The title is grossly incorrect. Seems to me everyone knew.
Should have been titled "Why didn't we do something to prevent this?"
"Why didnt we give two shits" wouldve made a good title
Midnight Lightning Radio not only in Canada everywhere the system is stacked against women. O yea come report it, so we can laugh in ur face
The title is a direct quote from one of the women here in this video
@@reason5591 That, and it also can be read as rhetoric question. The system knew but failed these women by not acting on the sum of information. It is an indirect way of blaiming the system.
You're on the right track. Break it down one step further
The fact that he doesn't appear to take responsibility for his actions, blames the victim for his violence, should be reflected in his sentencing and treatment. Shame on the 'justice' system.
The Justice system is a joke.
Yes you are right. If his self-pitying mentality did reflect in his sentencing then he would never see the light of day ever again. Which would be just fine by me.
+Gabe Giron you're funny
He's a Narcissist and that's what they do. Even the whole singling out "vulnerable" women so that he can gaslight them and have power and control. When he lost that control, he snapped (but it's all 'their' fault). Narcs are horrible human beings 😒
+notsodocile I agree...Narcissistic Freak...Pure Evil
"are you asking me a question after I told you this stuff"... This is abusive talk. He is scolding the reporter. unbelievable. He needs to rot in jail.
Listen to his five hour interrogation interview. Full of abusive talk towards the cop
I saw his interviews with the police after the final arrest. He was rude, ill mannered and belligerent with them too.
@@julielynn86
Hmmmm🤔🤔 A firing
squad you say??
What a great idea 😉
@@julielynn86
No no no.......FIRING SQUAD, but start at the feet, and SLOWLY work there way up
It made me mad when he was freaking out about how she wasn't hearing his story and then when she did ask about it he got mad that she was asking questions.
Basically:
Him: You're not hearing my story or asking why
her: ok, so why did it happen?
him: you're not listening to me
Like, immediately trying to gaslight the reporter or something
Having been the victim of Domestic Violence myself, I can personally attest to the lack of police police protection I received.
I am currently confined to a wheelchair. Several weeks ago, my husband ran at me & was attempting to drive me at our refrigerator door. Fortunately I was able to protect my knees and swing my chair & avoid God knows what! I called the police & they were quick to identify my circumstances as “merely Domestic” & after questioning us separately stated that was all the proof they needed, leaving me with my husband. Fortunately my son heard my screaming & rushed into the kitchen to put a stop to this. I called his Doctor & requested a Section 12. Soon the police were back removing him from my home involuntarily to a Psychiatric facility. The happiest days of my life are just ahead! My daughter’s fiancé lives in Australia & has invited me to live with them where I will NEVER have to see him again!!
Good for you
I blame the judge. If he had beaten a stranger on the street in such a way he would be in jail for a least 3 years. But since it was a woman, someone he lived with, there was no justice, and then 3 murders. Judges should be held accountable for their decisions like anyone else...Sad story.
And the sad thing is he will be out in about 10 years on the streets again
@@campbell3282 except he was given 70 years before he'll be eligible parole. He ain't living to be 128 years old lol
Yea, I agree.
Bodicea 1 so true
@@debbie541 You're repeating someone else's Comment dude
After he beat Anastasia that charge alone should have earned him YEARS in prison. This was a prolonged attack that occurred over many hours! It was NOT a one-time incident, but something he was known for within the community. I hate knowing that this man basically terrorized women his entire adult life..
in the us he definitely would have been i dont get why that alone wouldnt affect any of sentencing or possibly of parole at least
...and if convicted all those times this man would have been charged would be bumped up to "hate crimes" especially in the USA
@@Shadynastys There are plenty of men who get away with devastating attacks on women in the US too
He should have got 25 years for the torture and battery of Anastasia,if not longer.A very dangerous man.
Mo Ana. no the state of Texas is very serious about the attorney general going after the abuser. every state has crime victim compensation funds.
“We can’t convict him because he’s never been convicted before.” Circular reasoning.
@silverbud What is worse is 103 people thumbed up his complete misunderstanding of what was said!
@@circlestrafe8355All the youtube comments are about to be purged....
I would create a publicized version of just the comments....
Imagine the sized volumes....
Better get to work....
Right?? 🤦♀️ most insipid line of logic for a freakin judge to have!
Jessica Stern no, that’s Canadian reasoning
@Hydra a history of violence should absolutely be taken into account.
1 woman every 5 days killed? This is Canada we're talking about. That is incredibly disturbing.
Are you ok?
He said sorry eh after
The good ol USA has an average of three women killed each day.
@@jupiterevergreen8776 You people really are pathetic xD
@Donnell Okafor More men are killed by MEN.
I don't know why I continue to watch these shows....they just piss me off so bad. In adequate police work and the courts dragging their feet. Plus, these murders could have been prevented.
Barb Dailey, I'm thinking the same right now. So piss that this monster keeps getting away with the law.
Barb Dailey I actually said out loud after the intro, “I probably shouldn’t watch this.” But I did, and it’s absurd and shameful that these same stories continue, year in year out. It’s heartbreaking.
:(
It seems the Canadian justice system is even worse than the US's when it comes to this stuff
I'm thinking the same thing and also wondering why this is such a big issue in Canada.
Barb Dailey same here, I get so angry that I pause most of them and take a coffee break yet I still come back to watch till the very end
Wait so he didnt sign the form saying he would stay away from the women he assaulted and they let him out anyway!!
Exactly what I thought...if he didn't sign it he should have been put back into jail until he did.
@Nobody Knows you're kidding yourself if you think the laws are even remotely better in the US
Right?
Nobody Knows ,BUBBAaaaaaa
It’s evil men in positions of power. It’s not politics or anything other than that.
His parole officer needs to pay too.
He should be in jail.
Everyone involved with this case that enabled this man to get charged with a lesser crime should be held culpable in this case
He shouldn’t have been on parole to blame his parole officer. Canadian and American justice systems are broken.
They don’t understand some people cannot function in civilized society and shouldn’t be allowed to live in it.
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Yessssssssss...the system failed these ladies
Thank you for showing us the victims names-I feel that is so important to do in cases where the killer gets more attention.
I accidentally came across the Fifth Estate on UA-cam, what an excellent show.
+Kristina Winter Me 2!!
+Kristina Winter Me 3!!!
+Kristina Winter They also have a website...www.cbc.ca/fifth you can watch their programs there too...I love it and watch all the time...
+Been There Many thanks.
same here love it
The problem is not that he should not have the presumption of innocence, he should. There is a problem with a system where you can refuse to sign a parole form and still get paroled, where you can ignore court orders without being sent back to prison. There is something wrong with a system where he is repeatedly charged and the charges are not litigated but rather repeatedly dropped. Even if he had no record whatsoever, for the battery of Anastasia he should have gotten a hefty sentence as he should have been charged and prosecuted for attempted murder. Had he been prosecuted along the line he would have been sitting in prison instead of shooting up the town.
so true
Ontario's court system far too often hasn't held Mr Borutski accountable for his refusal to follow court orders. Until such time that more courts are prepared to go tough on defendants who refuse to follow lawful orders, I'm afraid there will be more people inclined to act the way Mr Borutski did. At least now he has been caught, and although Canada doesn't have life without parole written in its Criminal Code, a law that came into effect in December 2011 gives judges the power to sentence defendants convicted of, or who admit to, multiple murders, to sentence such murderers to consecutive life sentences e.g. Borutski, if convicted of all 3 murder counts (whether 1st- or 2nd-degree), could be ordered to serve 75 years, of his life sentence, from his September 2015 arrest. At the time of that same arrest, he had been 57 or 58 years old, which could mean that any life sentence he is given (if convicted) he dies behind bars before he gets to apply for day parole. In theory, he could be convicted of 3 counts of 2nd-degree murder, and thus be eligible for the statutory minimum of 10 years, although he will be lucky, in that case, if he manages to get a parole ineligibility period of
David W
I think there may have been a remedy even before these changes. Paul Bernardo was convicted of murder and though he will be technically eligible for parole he won't get it because he was designated a dangerous offender. The problem is not whether someone gets one life sentence or three consecutive sentences, even after fifteen years in prison a person would become less dangerous, the problem in this case was the system's unwillingness to enforce the law from the beginning, before the escalation of the violence, which was utterly predictable.
zwergie256 There were warnings that Mr Borutski was violent and dangerous, and the inability, of Canada's courts, to go tougher on him resulted in someone who acted out his anger the way that he did.
David W
Many loud warnings. That's the tragedy here, it was not out of the blue, this ending was not only predictable but inevitable.
When the authorities decide to give you a panic button instead of keeping a dangerous violent known predator behind bars who can & probably will come after you...you know you are in big trouble. What a sick game to play with innocent people's lives.
What use is a panic button when you live in the boonies, and the cops are far away?
@@sidstovell2177 👍Exactly 💯 I second that!
Absolutely agree!!! It doesn't work any better than an OOP.
This was so heartbreaking to watch. I escaped a real violent relationship in the past.. to this day Im so glad I was able to survive. The only way I could do it was by disappearing for years, I had no choice but to change my entire life.. Work, home, phone everything. To the women out there going through something like this. GET OUT. BE SMART about it, you will know when the moment is right. Have a plan in your head, when the moment is right. RUN!!
I’ve been through the same. Getting out is the hardest part... dealing with the fallout is terrible too... but it’s better than dying
I'm happy you made it.
I’m so glad you’re still with us
Yes!!! Get out and don't let on that you are planning to! Tell them what they want to hear then RUN AND DON'T LOOK BACK!!!! That's what I had to do and did!
@@christinamenhennett Smart Woman
Same issue in the US. I think there should be a data base that you can check to see if a person has any current or past restraining orders. My heart goes out to these families.
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We are working on having this in Australia.
That is a great idea. Maybe the People should stand together and go to their Politicians and demand this.
There is. Open records request. Pay for background check. Buy & learn to use a gun.
The judge who let him loose, should be jailed for life.
I think he was afraid of retaliation after his release. So, the judge let him go, knowing he was a murderer!....
It’s not the judge who is the problem, in fact he did his job by the book, it’s the actual law that is the problem...
not2tees yeah I agree with that, what I’m trying to say is the book needs to be re-written
Wow.
Yes
"You're judging me" WOW. I don't know if victim playing can get any worse than that, given the circumstances...
Such a whiny, whimpering little twªt
This man is a narcissist. In his eyes, he can do no wrong; since they spurned/offended him, he thought he had the right to murder them. You will not find a narcissist killing himself, like this monster! Are there no psychotherapists in Canada?
@@vivians9392 Unfortunately, even the best psychotherapist can't fix a narcissist - and it's well accepted in the psychiatric community that there is no cure for them.
This is a concern that happens all over the world not just in Canada,. Domestic Violence is a serious issue that needs to be taken seriously and many countries don't.
Some people are so sick. This is too many crimes missing people finding dead addicts around town in Ontario it’s so sad that I live in Ontario. 😮😢 the patron and police need to be doing something more for the communities
The word domestic needs to be removed. Its violence. Its violence against people.
Refused to sign no contact order, released from jail anyway. Seems legit
so sad .i was in abusive marriage too but we divorced @ age of 41 and i swear that i will go single to my grave and i still hold on to this promise .no way will trust a man again .I just love my freedom and i don't want or need a man in life never ever ..
Shes not saying shes not happy she is happy happy on her own
Me too x
I'm trying 2 get out of one now. He's a narcissistic person driven by his insecure. I pray 4 these women souls. May they rest in peace🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Bless you x enjoy your life now x ever more.not all men are bad but it's like if you have a mad dog ,you wont have another no matter what people say. Linda Bellamy UK
@@ciaramist9435 Get out as soon as possible. Good Luck 🤞 💕
we give the criminals more rights than the victims
Mark Alfieri fifteen
Very True, gun laws prove that.
That is not true.
Mark Alfieri the sad part about your comment is victims don’t actually have rights. Period.
Your comment is 2 years old, but still relevant today. I live in NC USA and they're just now trying to pass a law to increase victim rights.
Her poor Daughter seems very strong. Telling the story the way she did. Poor thing
5 months served for grievous bodily harm?! Then free to escalate his violence. Are women valued in Canada?
+Annabelle Rankin watch letter to zachery it will make you sick
+Tidleywinks100 Thanks for telling me about that amazing documentary… so sad, and how fantastic are Andrew's parents!!
Really sad.
Sounds like the mushy mind of liberalism has begun to betray the citizens of Canada and deprive them of proper care and protection (and freedoms, recently came across the Ezra Levant incident regarding free speech).
Agree liberalism needs curbing, not sure about conservatism as it is different here (I am in UK btw). Unfortunately many people who claim to be championing minorities are hateful against those who criticise them; there was a nineteen year old university student (George Lawlor) who recently objected to being expected to go to a 'consent class' (exercised his freedom of choice and speech) and was then vilified by online bullies (who became hateful for a 'good cause', so to speak, and were not censured). Not an easy thing but I would favour freedom of speech, and that includes being free to be obnoxious. Just wish people like the feminists who went after George had better manners!
The justice system failed these women!!
Are they blameless for not testifying? Is this really just the fault of the system?
M Palmer yes it did!!
Blame the police, the justice system, the government.
Sue, sue, sue.
Never admit fault, never take responsibility.
@@oldbatwit5102 in this case yes, the police, justice system and the government did not do their job. Plain and simple
@@oldbatwit5102 I do understand where you are coming from, bc yes most women do not admit fault and rather seek out the faults of others. But thats not the case here
Domestic violence needs to be a federal offense.
Best comment I've ever read. Lost my mom to her boyfriend in 2004. I won't get into specific details about the fact that HES STILL WALKING FREE!!! YUP.
Something being a Federal Offense vs State or Local Offense only changes the parties responsible for investigation, it doesn't change anything about the punishment. If you want to wait around for the FBI to uncorrupt themselves so they can investigate a matter, then you may be waiting a while.
David Kendall Do you have any idea why there are different levels of punishment? Because the more heinous the crime, the worse the punishment. A capital/federal crime DOES carry harsher sentences, for the most part, as it should. Crimes are categorized by severity and therefore, so are the punishments.
For women also men are not the only ones that abuse!
The bad seed
This hits so hard growing up on a small farm all the way up until 2011 as a kid I thought everyones dad hit them and their moms. It had become so regular I was convinced it was normal. It broke me when I realized it wasn't. I'm almost 24 and still searching for answers.
this is so heartbreaking to imagine
Me too my friend. Me too.
There are no answers. Your father is a monster, the crime stays with him, but you deserve to be free. Good luck!
I was abused for years an kept it secret, still have the scars to prove it no one never new . Been single for 9yrs I can't see myself in another relationship
And if you do get into another relationship it'll probably be with another abuser because that's what women like you are drawn to had you turned him in there probably wouldn't be other women that he's abused which there probably are so thank you.... NOT
Esther. Well done Esther for not rushing into another relationship and taking time to think it out. Youve done well.
I'm sorry you been through that. Hope you are in a better place mentally
I’m sorry to hear you had to go through this but glad to hear you came out of this. Hopefully you can’t seek assistance to heal your wound with professional help so you don’t have to keep reliving it and hold yourself back from happiness. There are more good people on earth than bad one. Wish the best outcome for you and your future.
I reported that dumb jerk!
it should be called"Why didn t we listen?"
we..we didn't listen!
The title is wrong: y'all DID know and did NOTHING to protect these women.
I think they mean why didnt they know he has been released
@@SuicideRedemption one did yet she didn't tell Anastasia even though the two knew each other
@Tiger I. F. R. Tiger "Not anyones responsibility to save people who are ignorant" - that is pretty much a police officers job description.
The law is intended to protect all innocent. Ignorance should be irrelevant unless it leads to guilty behaviour.
@Tiger I. F. R. Tiger Your caps lock seems to be stuck or are you really that daft that you think it gives your comment more meaning?
It doesn't.
Agree
all this beautiful footage of miles and miles and miles of natural land someone could have buried this dude's body.
errppp.... was that out loud?
Agree
Love that!
Ahahaha
Yep im a vigilante 2
Assaulting a woman who trusts and love a you/man is one of the greatest cowardice of all.
It appears there were many warning signs Borutski had such a propensity for violence that he should have been more strictly monitored than he was.
David W and silly women shouldn't have tried to change him, or even date him for that matter.
A8HBU There was no proof that the rumors of his previous attacks were real when he met each new woman so they gave him the benefit of the doubt. Have you ever been the victim of a false rumor? Maybe not because you’re a male but as women, we tend to encounter MANY false rumors about us so given that these poor women knew how it felt to be lied about, they likely felt sorry for him until it was too late to realize that he was indeed horrible and dangerous.
He also seems to be a master manipulator. Don’t blame the women for trying to be good people.
"Why didn't we know?" EVERYBODY KNEW!!! WTF!
Natalie was my nurse when I was sick and at home.. she was a beautiful soul and the last time I saw her was at the Eganville Library Christmas 🎄 Party. She was with a man similar to this guy’s description.. it was the next year I found out she was murdered!! I’m still in shock.. My heart goes out to all of the families who were involved.
That chilling phone call at the end tells me everything about this guy. Guilty AF.
Let him be judged by a jury totally made up of the devastated families hes left behind.. 1 sick individual. Stay safe ladies., if it doesnt feel right then Get out of it.
If basil didn’t sign the protection order, why did the Province release him? Canadian Justice is far too lax.
Right?!?! Had this man been a non white... I swear he would be jailed as a youth.
Sandy Williams he’d be under the jail
It is no better in USA.
Sandy Williams always someone
We have the same problem here in France it seems to me that we listen too much to the guilty ones rather than supporting the victims... lawyers are too crafty...
Same problem in America too.
Same in Australia. Time and time again repeat offenders are given parole only to go on and murder.
Same in Sweden. It’s absurd.
Same in hell
This is so sad, May all those women Rest In Peace.
This is just disgusting. The justice system totally failed here, and it is like this all over the world. Man can do what they want.
DINAHLUCIA nn
DINAHLUCIA Sure, I suppose everyone has the opportunity to try and do anything they want once in this life....so many operative words in the above statement...
Only if the women let them, like they did here.
Textbook Narcissist. I hope he rots in prison!
"You're judging me."
Yeah, you're damn right you are being judged. And I hope the judgement passed on to you will be everlasting.
Great Frost Hawk I usually understand the importance of knowing what circumstances created a person, because that cannot be ignored. However, upon ending 3 peoples’ lives, it’s kinda pointless for people to know why you became what you are, because you’ve done somethong so grave that doesnt excuse you.
This is same type of issue with my father. Definitely comes a point where you're how old and STILL behaving like that? Over and over? No sympathy for Basil.
"You're not waiting for my 10 hournexcuse for triple homicide" lmao ok bud
goes both ways!
Okay now I am even more scared to date or make friends. My anxiety is on high now due to these stories. You cannot cure someone of their violent tendencies you can not stop them. You need to lock them up away from innocent people. The judges are at fault for all of these women’s deaths.
Yes situations like this and guys wonder why girls are so "paranoid" now? The judges and police are often at fault it's true. Even when courts issue conditions police don't enforce them and some side with the abusers also.
He’s a complete narcissist. Always the victim, always the manipulator.
Yes and very dangerous. Sad but these type of people can go on to murder their partners because it’s about totally 💯 controlling victim. Red Flags are always there. They wear you down first, isolate you from everyone.
@@charm8167 Brings Megan Markle to mind!
He talks in 3rd person too. How narcissistic can one be?
“Basil what color is my shirt”,
Basil’s response, “you don’t understand there’s a 20 year history to that question “.
How exhausting it must be to try and talk to him!
He's ALWAYS going to be the victim of any- and everyone with a degree of authority over him, real or imagined
trump logic...
i watched a video of his interrogation and even with just the highlights it was torture to watch. he just mumbles along about how he's always the victim, talking in circles about how everything is everyone else's fault.
The justice system across the world needs to do better for women. It is failing us time and time again.
Spudnik's Dog because most laws are made by rich men and few women who do take part in making laws are blinded by power that they forget who arent as privileged.
They dont have any education on mental illness. So sad
Spudnik's Dog yes it’s the same in Australia! The judges are scared 😧
It's the other way round. 😂😂
Yeah,and women needs to be more careful and not rush into relationship.
“Why didn’t we know.”
Should’ve been. Why didn’t we listen...
Born and raised in Ontario my entire life and I've never heard of this case. Unfortunately not surprising. Another huge Canadian flaw is the injustice system.
Tells you how important your elected officials and media think this problem is.
I lived about 1hr from where this happened and I remember it like the back of my hand. My stomach dropped when I heard my kids school was on lock down and then when I heard of what happened I was brought back to my childhood and living my own nightmare. The news needs to make these stories more known. People don't realize how often this happens.
Too many white men in power.
This show should have been called “ We knew but we just didn’t do anything to prevent it from happening “ And make a sequel called” And now 3 woman are dead because “us” (the justice system) was to lazy to take it seriously.
Agree
It seems the law doesn't care much about the lives of women or children.
A system built by and for men. White men, to be specific.
unless they have a vote politicians don't listen very well..until they lose their seat
@Matt Maynard gtfohwtbs
In 2017 he was found guilty and sentenced to 70 years without parole...
They all are charming in the beginning of a relationship, then they display their true identity.
Very well said. Got that right.
***Moda Estilo Tzara AZTRA*** You had better believe that for sure.
Protect yourselves. The authorities are always too late. This really angers me.
DON'T INVITE THEM INTO YOUR HOME......A MAN SHOULD SUPPORT HIMSELF........he moves in, then, takes over.....
Maybe they shouldn’t have constantly dropped the charges😞
That's what i say hell the police doesn't prevent crime they only act after the crime has happened
Gun rights are women’s rights!!!
@@beamills9205 chris watts?
This case pissed me off. The so called "Justice system" failed these women big time. Unbelievable.
what pisses me off is that every single witness describing the shootings cannot stop smiling and smirking! The only one crying is the one whom he beat up in the past...very awkward!
Justice system is always failing women
The “justice” system is doing exactly what it is built to do, and that is to fail. There are so many cases were justice isn’t served to the right people or served at all!!! It is a pitty.
Favsunsky this is poor me poor me poor me. Narsassistic prick. It’s all about him. 🤬
this case happened because according with basil, a murder, justice system believe in women's words. to prevent this kind of things, justice system cant rake side, it is happening all over the place, include many men are frustrated because for example when it comes to child custody women always have the upper hand
The perpetrator is ALWAYS the victim. And, the term,” drowning man,” is so appropriate.
The title is disturbing: "Why Didn't We Know?"...EVERYONE KNEW!
it's referring to the women who were not informed he was released from jail.
It's a tribute to a quote from one of the women they interviewed.
There is a book called The Gift of Fear by Gavin De Becker, that EVERY female person MUST read. The judicial system and the police are profoundly ineffectual and negligent in dealing with women's safety, so WE have to take care of ourselves. The book helps clarify certain behaviors that women can be on the look out for, and how to work around them. The book also emphasizes how very important it is for women to LISTEN TO THEIR INTUITION!!! Women are given the gift of an early warning system that is supposed to trigger extra awareness of their situations. They are also routinely told not to pay attention to these alarm bells, because these warnings often have no actual evidence to back them up. Just, you know... a gut feeling.
There is also a problem regarding follow up. No one in the legal system wanted to take the initiative or time to make sure this monster was meeting his parole requirements, that he was attending counselling sessions or living where he was supposed to be living. And the two women responsible for putting Borutski in jail were not warned about his release. If they knew he was out, they could have had taken steps to protect themselves a little better.
There is also the underlying current in the police and justice system that constantly puts women as second class citizens. Violence against women is not as serious a crime as violence towards men or property. Women just don't rate.
Women are still considered to be chattel, the father's or husband's property. You can do what you like with your own property.
They are also considered to be responsible for the violence that is turned on them. They "ask for it".
Does anyone think these three women wanted the violence that was used against them?
I have read that book and it is a WAKE UP CALL for women in today's society. The odds of you being helped out of a life threatening situation with another human is slim - you must learn to help yourself. It is VITAL.
Only recently our new president of Mexico with our new Congress signed a new law indicating that "Feminicidio" ( murdering a women) is a felony leading to life imprisonment without parole, sadly men would be released before after murdering a women, simply because a female is considered nothing to society.
In that same law, women can call authorities to automatically jail the abusive husband or boyfriend for a minimum of 5 years in prison.
This law was passed a few days ago. Hopefully Canada can do the same
Sandra Nelson you know it is sad and true, but not always. May we all live fully even in the knowledge that life is unfair.
www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=the+gift+of+fear+-+gavin+de+becker&tag=googhydr-20&index=stripbooks&hvadid=241935699587&hvpos=1t1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1399065399716259833&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9025229&hvtargid=kwd-10509699899&ref=pd_sl_25pc8skwk9_e
It is there is another book out there by the same author which is how to protect our children along the same lines. I had both my children read it....and yes I read it too. :)
Once again...Poor Basil the victim. .He's disgusting
It is a shame he threw up his arms in a cowardly fashion and surrendered when confronted by someone who was not unarmed.WHAT A COWARD,could have saved a lot of time and money.
He is sick.
His little tantrum on the phone cracked me up 😂
Especially because he literally just said "you have to understand why it happened", and then she said "why did it happen", then he lost it. Like wtf lmao
The lady who said “ I knew that night he was going to snap” she has some screws loose as well. She should of called the police if she knew. She allowed that monster to use her car.
she was to scared to say no
Sorry to tell you this but the law is that you have to do something you can't say you're going to do it you have to do something that catch you in the act
And if police did nothing, he would’ve killed her for dobbing on him.
sandy Hodge she wasn’t awake
EXACTLY freaking right!!!!!
Where is victims support in Canada? I took my ex to court ,I was in a private room not in court ,the judge called him dispicable. I felt stronger with victims support by me it helped not to be in court alone.
They have it, thing is this is a case of gross negligence that isn't even remotely common. Notice how they said there's a women killed in a DV case every 5 days or something? They didn't make a video about all those because it wouldn't get such a strong reaction from girls and make them as much money.
He was sentenced to life without the possibility of parole for 70 years.
Sandra Hamilton ty
Brilliant.
Thank you Lord
This is horrifying. Please people watch who you let into your home and lives, especially if you're alone. There are plenty of skidbags out there like this coward. Love and respect to all of you from your guy in 🇨🇦 💪✌.
Ask how they got/get along with their mom!
The title on this is totally wrong. The correct title should be “Why did we ignore the obvious?”
Blame Canada.
umm, thats post millennium canada for you - walking into obvious. boomers...
@@vegasrebel1889 this happens in a lot of places, canada is unusual in that their police, like new zealands, seem mentally paralysed & aren't learning
For real!!!
Jeanne robertson
Domestic violence against women isn't a women's issue, it's a perpetrator issue.......
gashick1 it's a male issue. But we try to call it anything but that.
I agree to an extent. I'm a woman who watched as I was growing up, and learned better than to blame just the man.
Yes, he is awful, but when you allow that first hit and don't leave..you are giving them permission to keep on.
Most times these victims have been abused mentally or physically in little ways until the attacker realizes they're going to stay (or come back).
These women had friends and family already realize that he was a problem, which means that he had been building up to the worse attacks.
These women left, but how many times did they stay before it went too far? If you don't leave at the first time you are their property, according to them.
I'm not excusing that these abusers should be allowed to do this, but we women have seen this thing so often...When do we say no?
Bobbie Robinson Victim blaming 😡
@@cosmicmuffin322 men are also assaulted, we just don't hear about them as much. So it's not necessarily a male issue. It is how ever women who have suffered the longest and still tend to have DV discounted as being a crime and seen as a private issue or women deserved it. It's been that way for centuries.
@@scegenius8751 Her point is, as an adult, why let yourself be a victim.
If a man lays his hands on me in anger, we are done. I can leave.
That said, staying does not give any one the right to harm you, they shouldn't do it. People also shouldn't steal cars and yet we expect people to lock their car doors and take the keys out of the door. It's not victim blaming, it's the expectation an adult would take precautions...get it?
I knew a monster just like Basil. He used everyone and anyone he could for a place to live and rule. He abused and drank and smoked...but didn't work or earn money. His 'hard luck' was everyone else's fault. In and out of jail his whole life. Moved from state to state where new women didn't know him, so he could continue the same lifestyle. Soulless bastard.
You'll probably hear of his murders on the news soon.
“Why don’t you come to my house, and listen to me for ten hours...”
In other words “come to my house, and you’ll be next.”
this is what happens when you think the government can protect you
learn to defend yourself
In canada we are criminals for defending or arming ourself for personal safety.
In Canada ur living your country away to people who get all the benefits your government has to offer
Fact. I will keep my firearms and ability to protect myself and pay for my own healthcare and school.
@@takerkellygiveusbacktupac617 AMEN!!
"You have to understand why this happened."
"Why did it happen?"
"STOP JUDGING ME!"
What a real scumbag
@James Rogers, I agree. Scumbag!
Almost had to click oof the video at that point, hate when the perpetrator acts like the victim just because they had a rough upbringing🙄Imagine being so detached from reality you consider yourself a victim after murdering and abusing so many people
Sooooo, this man was released from an all male prison, for good behavior, as a criminal who beats ladies???? Ahh, just for the record Canadian authorities, he was probably a very good prisoner....there were no females in the prison. Note to all females: When everyone, friends, family, and strangers tell you the guy is bad.....the guy is bad!!! When everyone tells you he hurt his last wife and girl friend and the guy's excuse: He was/is the victim, ahh,take notice.... the guy is bad! Second guessing yourself might be one of the worse ways to ward off unnecessary stress and abuse; go with your gut! Wait, OPP once again, Didn't I see this police force in the Russell Williams episode? Aren't they the same force that failed to inform people about the violations happening in their region, the eighty plus incidents committed by Col. Russell Williams??? Ladies, beware of thatOPP police force....this aspect of the community is obviously does not qualify as members of society that they will "protect and serve!"
Ahh, dear, that is my point: A habitual female abuser is released because of good behavior when locked-up in an all male prison???? Ahhh, do you see 'why' he has good behavior????? No ladies are present!!!! Crazy actions by the authorities for alolwing this man to be released.
"Why did it happen?"
"DoN't JuDgE mE"
The Fifth Estate has the best documentaries
Jade Carson i agree...been surfing documentaries lately and im glad found this
The “system “ fails the victims, and helps those who are guilty. This seems to happen all over the world. If it were you or I, they would hang us, but habitual criminals get a free pass
I think his family had a lot of clout in the area, which affected the leniency he received.
This man is a monster one day he will meet his maker I hope he has nothing but Paine in the fires of hell
The phone conversation with this POS at the end made me so mad! I hope someone makes him feel pain while he rots away in prison.. My condolences to all the family's involved.. What a sociopath
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Until fairly recently, UK police officers responding to a domestic violence call (referring to it as "just a domestic") usually treated the victim in quite a dismissive, even resentful way, with a sense that it's going to be a waste of their time, & an expectation that they would not press charges. The historical view taken by law enforcement has always been one of minimising this particular kind of violence. Acts of abuse committed within a supposedly safe, loving relationship are especially despicable. An immediate, joined-up plan that swings into action the first, & EVERY time this type of violent assault occurs, is needed. ANY act of domestic violence should be documented, & a plan of legal punishment &/or practical intervention against the perpetrator is required, with support & protection of the victim(s).
What the hell y’all mean “why we didn’t know” I’m so confused the man had been in court his whole damn life
I think they mean why didnt they know he was been released and warned
English... please learn it.
based on the comments of this video, I think i'd be too angry to watch. So, I'm skipping.
The min he refused to sign and certainly not showing up for probation should have been instant recall back to prison! Probation need the sack and someone needs to take responsibility!!!