Teen Titans | Terra-fying Trauma
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And they did it all without the awkward sexual implications of The Judas Contract.
Yeah, “implications”.
Oh I HATED that!
I agree and made it into a warped toxic father-daughter relationship
There's edgy jokes, dark humor, and just being out there. Then there's...that.
@@kidprime6863 that’s better
“You are more dangerous than anything I’ve ever seen.”, no one let Slade know about Terras brother, Geo-Force. It’s absurd how much stronger he is than her.
Wait, her brother is stronger than her?
@@kidprime6863 So much so, yes. He not only controls Earth, but he can also create and control fire, manipulate gravity and these powers grant him additional ones, like regular flight, super strength, invulnerability, forcefield creation, and accelerated healing.
@@CommanderSteelTrap I thought they basically had the same skill set, with him just being better at controlling it.
@@CommanderSteelTrap Damn, I had no idea Geo-Force was that powerful. But I think even if Slade knew about him and his power, he probably wouldn't want him anyway because he's TOO powerful and would potentially turn on him. Slade needs someone powerful yet vulnerable and easy to influence. He's not stupid.
@@logicplague2077 Nope, he’s got way more powers than her. The thing most people know Brion from, the YJ cartoon, decided to scrap most of his powers to just stick to Earth, but in the comics he’s absurdly powerful. One time a character even stated his connection to the Earth is almost as strong as Swamp Thing, which is saying a lot.
Honestly, that hurt little "I just figured it out, i didn't know it was a secret" made me feel so bad for Robin. he was trying to observe and support a potential new team member like a good leader and attempted to reassure her that while it was okay she couldn't, there would be expectations she would try to.
Plus, it wasn't entirely Robin's fault. Slade messed with her head, making her think that the Titans are just gonna betray.
Imagine if Harley Quinn (Harley Quinn Show) was in the 2003 Teen Titans, she would've help Terra better with her issues.
@@ciscojacobo7168 Especially since she still is able to apply her knowledge of phycology as a shrink.
@@Cowboycomando54 Plus, after finding out the truth about Bruce Wayne, she was willing to help him. Imagine, if somehow Harley Quinn ends up in Jump City, she would've help Terra with her issues.
A particularly painful detail is that it came down to his specific phrasing. "I know you have trouble controlling your powers" made Terra think Beast Boy had gone and fibbed on her, but almost any other choice of words ("I can see that", "I can tell that", "it's clear that", etc, etc) would've implied that he figured it out on his own. Of course, Robin didn't know it was a secret, and so couldn't possibly have realized the mistake he made in his choice of words.
@@markcochrane9523 Imagine, if somehow she can join Charles Xavier School For Special Abilities.
Slight tangent, but Robin figuring it out is an underrated example of him being Batman's kid. This show is full of those little references that I, as a Batman fan, just eat up
It also reinforces to the audience what a good leader he is.
@@oz_jonesIt also creates a plot destroying contrivance, considering Terra knew Robin as a hero, so therefore would know his status as the world's second greatest detective. Yet, still assumes Beast Boy told her secret when she knows of the genius in tights standing next to her would've figured that out easily.
Remember when slade wanted to be a father to robin but he said he already has a father and it panned to a cave with bats
@@MikeFireheartAs a comment elsewhere pointed out, Robin used the phrase "I know." This makes it sound like Robin is 100% sure of himself, because he is, and the only way to confirm Terra doesn't have full control of her powers is for her to admit it. She did for Beast Boy, so naturally it seems like Beast Boy told Robin.
If Robin instead used the term "I figured out" or "I noticed" or "I believed," anything less concrete in certainty would let Terra consider that Robin used his detective skills to figure it out, but needs her final confirmation to be correct.
And as the video also points out, Terra was primed by Slade to run away at the first sign of distrust, no matter how small.
@@justinalicea1590 I can see the point you're trying to make, but it's really just splitting hairs to justify why Terra would blatantly ignore facts that she's aware of. Terra has to actively ignore that Robin is a famous detective, Beast Boy had little to no time to tell Robin about her secret, Slade is a well known villain to the team of heroes she is a fan of, and her uncontrolled powers had the subtlety of a large bomb in the caves where they fought Slade's robots. It didn't naturally seem like Beast Boy told Robin, since they had just gotten back from their mission and were letting Terra into the team. Honestly, the writing around Terra as a character in this show was forced and contrived to have her story continue. This isn't surprising, cause they had to practically carve out the majority of her character and story in order to make her more kid friendly. The changes ultimately left a shell of the original story, which was spread throughout multiple episodes spaced away from each other.
Man it kinda sucks because even tho Robin realized that she couldn't control her powers properly, he was still willing to accept her as well, but her fear ended up making her think irrationally and not realize she was being welcomed.
What's more, Beast Boy had told her initially that they would probably be okay with her regardless, she was primed to accept their support but the trauma was still stronger
@@nick11crafterThat and Slade's words got to her
I agree about the weirdness of Tara's physique, I mean she's so freaking skinny she's basically a stick figure. But it also definitely would explain why she ate so much when the Titans invited her into the tower.
Who knows, Maybe since Tara was a homeless nomad she probably could never make enough to feed herself.
The show made a lot of people that were meant to be ripped skinny, then with Terra they were like "how can we top that".
She did say she had to run a lot cus she couldn’t control her powers. Makes sense she’d not have a place where she can just grab food easily
At least Slade's relationship with Terra wasn't as bad as it was in the source material. OH BOY, IT WAS SOMETHING.
Yeah, he treats Robin and Terra as if they were his own kids. In the comics, he did had three kids of his own, a son named Joseph/Jericho (the same Jericho we see in season 5), and other son named Grant Wilson better known as Ravager, a daughter named Rose Wilson also known as Ravager.
You aren't kidding
For those who don't understand the context:
...Slade/Deathstroke's a pedophile.
@@ericwhite1942Do I wanna know?
@craigpeoples9883 In the original Judas Contract storyline Slade and Terra are in an explicitly sexual relationship.
Now that’s bad enough by itself since she’s underaged but the comic also goes out of its way to establish that Terra as a completely unsympathetic and irredeemable monster that’s only been pretending to like the Titans when she actually hates them, especially Beast Boy, and is a completely willing participant in both her betrayal and her relationship with Slade
Terra is one of those characters that was very heavily improved by the animated series as she was a complete monster in the comics. Like it felt like the writers did everything possible to make her as unlikeable in the comics as possible it was shocking.
Given Starfire's design I imagine the show improved quite a bit. that said the show itself lacks a lot of polish writing wise.
Well, yeah, that was the point of her character, a shocking reveal and a subversion of the goody-two-shoes girl that joined a different team(i believe the X-men) in Marvel comics.
@@xolotltolox7626you're thinking of kitty pyrde and ye the similarities were intentional
@@xolotltolox7626 It being a subversion does not mean it is automatically not bad writing.
It was also for kids and teens so… at this time it was great and still made us think. Original TT was and is along with Batman beyond my favorite animated more series series as a kid. The mess they have now adays…😢😢
I swear Terra stabbing the titans in the back is a canon event at this point
It always is
At least in ttg it's pretty funny
Always has been
Is there a universe where terra isn’t backstabber?
@tvalokibatman6563 in Young Justice she ultimately didn't go through with it. Does that count?
(only having watch the intro to the video)
Cyborg: "She was leading it into a trap"
...that was forshadowing this whole time... I'm only now getting this.
In the second Terra episode, her first line is "So... which team am I on?"
@@ShadyDooragsonly now while reading these comments, am I now seeing that...😂 It literally takes becoming an adult to even understand things like that later on.
"Turns out it was nobody"
Thank you Shady, I needed that joke.
Damn you Odysseus!
@@travisbishop782
I got that joke.
that made me holler.
@@Deoxys_Used_Mimic i hope someone would!
The Terra arc is the best part of classic Teen Titans imo. My teenage self thought she was going to earn her way into becoming the "Sixth Ranger" of the group, and this entire arc of hers just broke me. So much potential wasted and such a sad but important ending about a person just wanting to be accepted for who she is.
Then the show ends on a note saying that some times, its just best to move on.
@@Cowboycomando54 it's a good message though, sometimes it is best even if it was a little irritating.
The New Teen Titans run in both the comics and show plays out very much like high school's Sophomore-Senior years, just like how the classic run's volumes 1 & 2 play out like it's 5th Grade-Freshman year. Some friends like Garth, Wally, Raven, BB, Vic, Roy, Joey, Donna (even though she rarely appeared outside the comics during the 2000's because of her causing legal drama), Omen (yet to debut outside the comics), Herald, Bette Kane, Tula, Gnarrk and Bumblebee stick around always, others like Golden Eagle, Card Queen, the multiple Supergirls, Freddy, Kyle and Hawks and Doves come and go, and then there are people like Terra who are just not meant to be because of them either not meshing with the group or secretly enjoying being the villain.
Terra's arc in the show? It's the latter. If she enjoys it, take her down. In the comic? She's open about enjoying being the villain. Even if she did turn herself to stone in the end...she still enjoyed being the villain.
@@timepilotcluefinder94 I get the message they were going for with the ending. personally though I hate how cold Terra is toward Beast Boy in the finial episode. I also feel it detracted from her character development. Hiding behind amnesia doesn't really illustrate growth or maturity. I think the lesson about letting go and moving on would have been better portrayed if we had seen Terra acknowledge her past with BB but been honest with him and explained that she was happy with her new life and just wanted to be a normal girl. Beast Boy would still have had to move on and let Terra go but we could have at least seen the two of them part ways on friendly terms.
@@vaulttec8766 sometimes you don't always get that.
@@vaulttec8766 Terra wants to make it easier for BB to move on. Hence hiding behind amnesia and trying to say that the Terra he knew is gone. She wants that life buried and forgotten. That’s life.
BB is tied to a lot of trauma for her, and likely is also a trigger too.
The fact she’s so broken and needs time alone is important to show. Shes healing. Those without trauma can never understand, that the “acceptance” and “honesty” comes at the END. She hasn’t grown or matured, she’s still a kid who hasn’t come to terms with any of it yet. Holding onto any idea of a nicely wrapped up bow is ridiculous, and it also ties into what TT ended up becoming.
We didn’t get the tied up bow of a proper Starfire season and series finale, and the series finale we got was sort of about how we would never get to see it. Thats life, and things change. Terra is in the beginning of her healing, and maybe she’d get back in touch with BB when things became better. But expecting a fully finished arc is bad writing. It didn’t detract anything. Ppl just have no patience for traumatized individuals. It’s why they tend to hide themselves and push ppl away, cuz nobody will ever truly care about them. Well luckily BB did.
This is how I learned Shady has never heard the expression “talk with your hands”
It’s referring to people who gesticulate when they talk, think the memes about Italians
I was thinking it was a reference to Shakespeare.
"Speak hands for me!"
Terra has got to be one of the most, if not *the* most complex characters in the show, and her transition from good to bad to somewhat neutral is somewhat scary, yet kinda relatable with rejection and overestimating her abilities.
Ashley Johnson made a perfect voice for her, and I feel like with a few changes of communication in the Titans, she could’ve become a great addition to the crew.
I checked and it was Christina Ricci in the Judas Contract movie, her only appearance in an animated feature film that I can recall. TEen Titans got other movies, especially when considering TTG
2:38 "I can not allow my new friend to slumber in a cave of darkness"
...
You let raven do that
Yeah, but Raven likes it that way.
@@markcochrane9523 Man that girl has issues
@@rayshawnwilliams5673 Yeah, and the Pope is Catholic.
@@markcochrane9523 i love to see to that
I mean, she actively tries to drag Raven out of that cave of darkness in several episodes
"Talking with your hands" is a pretty common expression. It refers to the use of hand gestures as you speak. Particularly when people use big gestures, or lots of them.
Terra used this expression as a play-on-words to indicate that she was unwilling to speak with Slade and would rather just fight him. This is also pretty common.
I guess I just suck at knowing things.
@@ShadyDooragsI think the best thing to do is go into a deep dive into her character
@@ShadyDoorags I know that feel, bro.🫂
@@ShadyDoorags How dare you not know everything. I for one, now no longer wish to watch any of you amazing videos because you didn't know one thing. Hahaha
Gesticulation is a word I love. Needlessly long word for fun.
Ashley Johnson is also apart of critical role for all my fellow D&D fans out there
All I hear is Ellie
Oh how cathartic it could’ve been if Batman slap around Slade in this show. Especially after Slade messed with Robin
The Teen Titans 2003 comic showed us a glimpse of how and her brother Geo-Force got their powers and how the two got separated
That should of been in the show
@@mrkaji8913it probably was if the show didn’t get cancelled
Yeah, imagine if the show wasn't canceled and renewed for another season or two. We might've gotten an episode where Geo Force talks Terra's issues.
@@RonBoom-ov7if it would of been at the end of season 2. I wish they didn’t cut out all the other sub plots
That's something I wished the original series would had explored on more. That would had added more depth to Terra and Geo Force.
Terra was one of my favorites.
Had so much potential but couldn't control it and then was able to be so easily influenced to turn against your friends.
Honestly I would have really loved to see what they did with her if the series wasn't cancelled.
Same
She was manipulated all her life. She and her brother never asked to be given powers.
I just wish Terra didn't stay in Jump City after her mysterious return in the end of the series. She's still in danger of meeting the Titans' enemies who will attack her on sight. She can try the "you got the wrong girl" routine on them, but that never works. She'll have no choice but to use her powers to defend herself. If she really had no where else to go then she should've at least dyed and trimmed her hair so no one will recognize her. No offense to her, but she's not really smart.
@@kidprime6863 You make a good point. I didn’t even think about that part. There are a million things she could’ve done to at least not get caught or recognized.
@@animecrystalsdopebruh Finally someone gets it. She was practically begging the Titans or their enemies to find her. If she really didn't want to have anything to them or her powers anymore, then she should've done a better job at hiding. I guess subtly isn't Terra's forte.
Same.
I've never really liked Terra, but as an adult I relate to her way more than I did growing up.
i miss this show so much
I like that Robin line of him figuring it out. Like it shows how observant and smart Robin is, shows the integrity of Beast Boy as he hasn't told anyone but also shows a little bit of Robin not always being wise enough to keep his mouth shut.
I remember Terra's whole thing really well, mainly because when I was little I *hated* Terra
I couldn't stand how easily she turned away from the Titans when they clearly wanted to help her, I thought she was so annoying and hesitant
Now when I look back I actually do like her, her reactions are somewhat realistic, similar to the commentary you said at the end lol
Glad to know I'm not to only one who felt that way
BUT her leaving at the end right before Beast Boy could explain he didn't break his promise, trauma or not it'll always annoy me
Understandable but after a terrible experience I went through, I get it now, but I'm more upset with the Titans not going after her as if they didn't have flight and a bunch of other powers to catch up with her with.
I know Terra is one of those characters people either love or hate. As for me she was always my favorite character despite only appearing in 5-6 episodes because her struggle with insecurity really resonated with me .
That last bit about Terra and trauma. Really made this review for me you deserve an extra like for that by itself.
Shady isthat one guy who knows good writing
And when we take something for granted he shows us its true beauty
Ah, avoidant attachment style. This one is me. I've struggled so hard to maintain relationships because of it. That fear of veing rejected that makes you preemptively bounce because you know they'll leave without your consent and regardless of how prepared you are, the rejection will hurt deeper than emotion could, because you are directly being told you are not wanted. Reasons don't matter, they don't want you and every time you see them, you will always know why they aren't in your life, because they do not want you. You are not wanted. I live this every day and it's so freaking hard. I guess I never knew Terra had that as a kid, but I see it clearly now as an adult. I just want to hug her. She's too young to have that fear constantly bouncing in her head like a perpetual super ball.
The only thing that I don't like about this episode is how she refused to even consider that Beast Boy was telling the truth. She just assumed, after he thoroughly proved he could be trusted, that he broke his promise, and made no effort to reconsider any other possibilities of how Robin found out.
It would be clear to anyone who was closely watching her during the training course that she was fumbling through it and got lucky, and Robin has the eyes of a hawk. He knew, but didn't care, that her control was lacking. And Beast Boy even told her already that they wouldn't care even if they knew
right
so then reaction doesn't make sense
You do have to remember that they are all teenagers and teens don't act in the most rational fashion. Couple that with a heavy does of emotional trauma/baggage, Slade's recent mind games, and her still thinking out how she almost got everyone in the mine killed. It makes sense that she would lash out and jump to conclusions.
@Cowboycomando54 maybe so, but she also knew about the Teen Titans before she met them, and so she should have inferred that THEIR LEADER is a master of judgment and would have figured it out
@@devildogkogg8353 right
It'd be really interesting seeing a what-if comic where Terra just listened at the last part, like maybe Robin jumps in her way to stop her and explain, and seeing how much that would change the entire story. Even if it was a short summary type of comic.
I do love though that Beast Boy didn't spill the beans and they avoided a common trope where it's figured out by someone that the character admits it and breaks the promise.
I love the numerous references to Gwen and Kevin in Alien Force. If you ever need another superhero show to cover, PLEASE consider covering Ben 10. That show was my childhood and it wouldn't hurt to have more Ben 10 based content.
Fun fact: in every show both actors have been in so far, both have always been the two to voice characters that like each other or hint at it.
Ben 10 should be covered more.
@@grizzakafulso four then?
Yes. Yes. Yes. Ben 10 is my favorite superhero show. EVER. Like an entire phase. Even had a childhood crush on Gwen. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE COVER IT I NEED THAT.
MAX needs to stop being cheapskate slackers and pick up the streaming rights to Alien Force and Ultimate Alien already. They have the rights to all the other Ben 10 shows already.
"How do you talk with your hands?"
Italians: "Allow us to introduce ourselves"
Terra:(exists)
Every cast: she seems ok
Terra:(betrays them eventually)
Every cast: GASP
Damian Wayne has entered the chat
Terra: *dies*
Every cast: *cries*
Lots of *Teen Titans* VA’s did voiceovers in *Ben 10* and thats so awesome for a fan of both shows.❤️🔥
I like that you added that bit of understanding to her running away being caused by her trauma at the end, even if you didn't understand it at first. I feel like a lot of the people that hate her don't understand that she's deeply traumatized and so young and so convinced she has to be alone. And that slade knew that and pandered to those fears. He's a master manipulator, of course he'd attack her weak points of trauma and fear and aversion around abandonment and rejection.
Dang, now I want to see Shady cover the rest of the Terra arc.
me too me too
@@rayshawnwilliams5673 Same.
@@bigmacsama me too
"Talking with your hands" just means that you gesture a lot when you talk. So it is a real thing. But it's not something that you do consciously or ask permission for. A better line would be "Fair warning, I have a habit of talking with my hands."
Damn Slade. That was some next-tier mind manipulation.
Just a good cold read, any mentalist worth their salt could have pulled that off
@@oz_jones highly doubt that. Also, his voice just has that hypnotizing effect.
@@suonnagan123 it IS Ron Perlman after all.
4:58 As a Kingdom Hearts fan, I appreciate that joke
The Terra episodes were always my favorite from the original series. They were so well-written & well-executed.
It's a real treat to see another Teen Titans episode review from you Shady! Terra was one of my favorite characters in the OG series, I mean it sucked that she was a spy for Slade but she was still a pretty interesting character.
So, no ones gonna mention the Terra theme, that plays whenever she appears on screen?
Seriously?!
It's so beautiful & iconic, and helps make the moment.
Terra was always my favorite character growing up and I shipped her and Beast Boy hard. I still like her now and wish she was around more.
damn this sucks
Same thing too I wished she was around alot more.
Same here, she deserved a better ending than that one in that Aftershock two parter and Things Change episode.
@@bigmacsama damn she right did 😁😁😁
My issue in the ending of the episode is, Terra should have known that Robin has been trained by Batman, you know, THE WORLD'S GREATEST DETECTIVE.
I do agree with the bit where Terra just freaks out and runs off. im sure starfire or Raven could have stopped her, or hell, im sure beastboy could have just caught up to her and explained that robin figured it out himself
yeah that wouldn't had been such a bad idea wouldn't it
Unfortunately they couldn't allow that, because it would have interfered with the clear drama they were trying to add to the mix. 🙄 I mean, I get that thing needed to be a precedent for Terra joining Slade, but they could have come up with a different way to make that happen.
Best version of this story because it doesn't make Slade a didler.
What's a didler?
@@kidprime6863 A pedophile. In the og story, Slade and Terra are sleeping together, which we're meant to see as entirely as a show of Terra's betrayal and disloyalty, but really reflects way more poorly on Slade's character since he's, ya know, having sex with a teenager who's about the same age as his kids.
@@kidprime6863 he had sex with Terra in the comic she was 16 at the time
@@kidprime6863in the comic slade likes them young very young like he is a pedophile
@kidprime6863 getting frisky with minors 😬
Something I hadn’t considered until watching your video, is that Terra might be running away from the Titans not only to escape the conversation, but also to prevent hurting anyone with her powers since her mental state was collapsing into stress right there. If that was the intention, the creators certainly could’ve shown it more, like have her eyes light up as she ran, or something, but yeah.
"Woah woah woah, hold on. It doesn't take the world greatest detective (who I was trained by) to see you can't control your powers perfectly. We all watched you do the obstacle course."
"Everywhere you go, You Try to Do Good and Everywhere You Fail, So Everyone Turns Against You."
That very quote hits so close home to me when I rewatch this episode because I have that same fear of failure in any situation because I always get the impression of that I might let everybody down when the chips are down and the stakes are high once they count on me, so I have to be perfect otherwise people won't have any faith/trust in me, So I have to be Perfect at the first attempt in order to gain that trust and I kinda relate with Tara in that aspect in this episode.
i love her😃😃😃
I think the scene needed a rewrite to explain why Robin doesn't try to explain, or why Starfire doesn't stop her. Maybe it was just the three of them, maybe invitation to join the team was a party, so they were busy decorating, maybe Terra's distress causes a earth shaking so they can't react before she leaves. Anything to make the leaving less awkward. But lots of shows and movies have the "one person is leaving and for some reason is faster than anyone else". Its a common issue.
I'm really glad to see a more empathetic angle to the whole miscommunication thing with Terra.
Considering whatever shit she went through before this point, it makes sense why she's so afraid of rejection
THANK YOU!
I am so happy that someone else does see how this misunderstanding thing actually works because it isn't just her assuming the worst and not listening, it's Slade getting into her mind and making her fear again
Terra
A Teen Titan
A True Friend
There was also Slade's line about her causing earthquakes and mudslides. I know this is a kids show, but I think there was a pretty heavy implication that Terra accidentally killed innocent people while trying to help people with her powers, which elevates the trauma so much more.
Losing Terra was a chip on the shoulder of young me forever. Hated her leaving and the subsequent suffering she endured.
"Who asked you raven? Oh it was you? Oh it turns out it was Nobody."
*Dude, that was so slick I didn't even notice the joke until the punchline came. Seriously the best way I've seen that done.*
Amazing how one single word could have changed so much. If Robin had said “I noticed…” instead of “I know…”, what might have been?
"How do u talk with your hands?"
Bro just insulted the whole Italian race
"what does talking with your hands even mean?" As you show an image of you talking with your hands
I hope Shady keeps this series of Terra focused episodes grounded. When all of these episodes came out originally, they rocked my world. I was in middle school when this series was coming out original and I took them for granite. Now, I absolutely lava the Terra arc. Wasn't Terra-ble at all. I feel like the writers felt more boulder as time went on with this story.
Boooooo! Terrible puns! 😂
8:38 A friend of mine once told me that if you crush coal hard enough it will reveal a diamond inside. And that just goes to show how powerful Slade’s cybernetic enhancements really are, especially since it takes a lot of force and pressure to pull it off. You can see that Slade even crushed the diamond a little bit, and that’s kinda impressive considering diamonds are one of hardest materials on the planet. All that aside: I love💕 your content.
I think the hand movement is just like jedi/sith using the force, they don’t actually need to in most cases, its not like the gestures themselves hold any power, it just helps them to concentrate on a task. Tera using her hands likely helps her visualize what she wants to do.
I noticed recently that the tangent at the end about Terra is something I felt about in the Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes episode "Some Assembly Required", Hulk left the team after being with them for a day after thinking that they thought he was a monster and were trying to take him down, but that wasn't the case. They were attacking cause they were trying to get Hulk to stop attacking and talk, also Tony and Thor figured out that someone was messing with him, if he'd just heard them out Hulk would've known they didn't think of him that way. But after a lot of thinking and more knowledge Hulk was hunted and called a monster his whole life or after the Gamma explosion made him, so his trust in others is not great(definitely took Bruce and Hulk a lot time to trust each other) and probably left before things actually got bad.
For someone who isn't really associated with being a voice actor, it's crazy how many big roles in animation Ashley Johnson has had. I first learned of her from her role in Infinity Train, then realized she had some other really big voice acting roles.
Man. I LOVE Terra's theme. I gives me chills everytime I hear it.
3:30 I think it's more because her power is so versatile and pretty much always useful. Geokinesis (Earth Manipulation) is basically always handing in a fight with tons of applications.
Technically, there is one more titan...
And the entirety of Titans East.
*Aqualad entered the chatroom*
Given slade and Terra's comic relationship, "I'm a hands on kinda girl" has some implications. And people who move their hands a lot when they talk and mime what they're saying are said to "talk with their hands". I thought it was a pretty common expression but maybe not everywhere
Ashley Johndon is also part of Critical Role and voices Pike in Vox Machina. A great show by the way.
Honestly, I think you should do the entire Terra Saga. I feel like there’s a lot you can say about each one of them.
Dang I _really_ miss this show. Your breakdown of all the little details and story elements really makes me long for good writers in animation again.
The next review should be the Justice League Wild Card episode. Teen Titans voicing the royal flush gang, how bad guys use television for evil, and probably Mark Hamill's best Joker performance. Highly recommended!
Especially given what Ace does to him, which is almost her first appearance...I get the releases mixed up sometimes, since I think there was a different psychic girl in BAtman Beyond
Terra is my favorite character. She’s like I compared her to Toph Beifong and I still wonder how she came back when she was turned to stone they did it off camera
It gives me more reason to feel bad when she gets ambushed, calls out beast boy for help, but is met with a growling dog
Slade probably just meant most dangerous that he could manipulate
Funny thing about Ashley Johnson is that she was in the interview scene after Loki's invasion of New York City in the 2011 MCU Avengers movie. Also in an episode of Mentalist, one of my favorite shows.
This video was so chock-full of well done references and jokes. From the Wizard of Oz, to the Grinch, to the Dusk Nobody, to Alien Force; it was all good stuff, Shady. Well done. Your analysis of Terra was also great and only further reminding me how good Teen Titans was as a show.
You talk with your hands quite easily. The cracking sounds they make when they connect with your body send a very clear message.
Shady really used a nobody to make a no one care joke 😂 iv never been more proud of a youtuber in my life
Terra deserved better. She was done dirty.
The Judas Contract is the main reason why I never understand the love of Deathstroke. He wouldn't care if his contract required him to burn down an orphanage full of infants if he was paid enough. Slade is a detestable human being, as was made evident by the Pariah using him to be its primary lieutenant in the last DC summer event.
7:07 yes Shady, that is a reference to something. To talk with one's hands means you often gesture with your hands when you talk, not sign language or any specific gestures, but noticeable, and sometimes exaggerated movements. When I was younger I did this a lot, and some countries it is natural to do so.
Y'know as a long time KH fan I shouldn't have laughed at the punchline to the dusk showing up. But I did, I saw the punch line coming a mile away and you still made me laugh. You bastard.
What's amazing is that there are, to my knowledge, at least FOUR shows where characters voiced by Greg and Ashley are love interests.
Beast Boy & Terra from Teen Titans
Kevin & Gwen from Ben 10 Alien Force
Michelangelo & Renet from TMNT 2012
and Chiro & Jinmay from Super Robot Monkkey Team HyperForce Go!
Ohhhhh Terra, her arc ending make me feel so devastated when I first watched it since according to the airing on CW, it was the series finale (I know that it's not now) but at the time it was so sad that BB and her didn't have a happy ending.
Now imagine adult me finding out years later that the show was canceled and was scheduled for 1 more seasons,..... devastated
Man, I remember being so frustrated with her character as a kid, because I didn't understand why she acted or thought the way she did, but after having grown up, and experienced people who've been through extreme traumas and the way they can often respond to even the *smallest* things that you wouldn't realize until it's too late, her character makes so much more sense, and is so much more sadder to me.
Like, I always felt like she was a sad character in some way, she always felt _off,_ but I couldn't identify exactly why, but now I know.
She clearly has trust issues, abandonment issues, has likely been homeless for a long time, either abandoned or rejected by her parents, considering we don't even get a mention of them, either from her or the Titans, and all this can do a lot of damage to a young kid, especially if she's only ever tried to help, but ended up making things worse.
Heck, she might've ended up killing her own parents by accident, and that's part of why she's so traumatized and afraid, for all we know, idk.
But as much as I didn't like her for not being patient or willing to listen as a kid, I can definitely appreciate her character more now as an adult, given what I know now about how traumatized people tend to act and rationalize events and people in their minds, and I think it's an important thing for kids like me to see, so that they can understand what others may be going through, and how they can best help them if they can.
I must confess, I like the "Tell you with my hands" line. To use other superheroes and shows covered on this channel as examples, Cassandra Cain could only express herself through action most of her life and the fighting styles of Avatar reflect how their users think. Slade wanted to use words to sell Terra a bad deal while Terra was going to show how much she hated him by the severity of the beating she gave him.
Unrelated, I love the Nobody joke.
Terra was such a lost and conflicted character. Even tho she was used to do bad I couldn’t help but feel sorry for her. Had she never encountered Slade, things could’ve turned out much better for her
Ashley Johnson, like Cree Summers, is national voice acting treasure
Seeing a clip of Ben 10 on this channel really makes me hope that Shady hits it up for some reviews one day.
I like teen titans terra best. It's honestly extremely creepy or flanderzation before or after this show. Before she's basically trying to sleep with Slade while being put in a relationship with a teen titan or something.
This terra it's a twisted father daughter relationship where he used her disconnecting from all other people to his advantage to build her up but only under his thumb. Then the suit was basically a physical representation of how he has her trapped. A perfect send off to keep Slade down where the team had trouble to even hand attacks on him.
so him saying he owned her mind body and soul and he could do with her what he liked wasn't creepy?
@@tcwentertainment Not as creepy as her throwing herself at him in Judas Contract.
@@tcwentertainment Oh it was still creepy, it just wasn't "40+ year old man having sex with a 14 year old" creepy.
She's still one of the best characters of the titans series and 70s comics in general, she betrayed the titans and then shacked up with Deathstroke (slade) in a romantic underage relationship that got toned down in the show.
Terra in titans however is totally relatable but should have been a permanent member from the second season when she comes back , her betrayal would jave meant more and her working through her failure would have been all the more satisfying, because most kids have that fear and especially young teenage girls at that age.
Of all of the characters in teen titans...
Terra is the one we feel we most resemble..
Not for her powers, not for her personality or character...
But because of her insecurities and traumatic history.
We lived like that for a LONG time...
And it's still a bit of a struggle even today.
It often feels easier to run away than to face failure or potential rejection...
It's rough
Relating to your hand motion monologue, I have a character who has mentally controlled powers who both uses gestures to make it easier to imagine the motions, but also does them to make his enemies think he needs them. Capturing him then becomes a trap because if he can think he can fight, and a good enough prison to contain him would ALSO be a perfect fortress from which he could simply swat you away from perfect safety.
As for Terra running away and the miscommunication, I feel it would have been better if *Beast Boy wasn't there*. She says something along the lines of 'but he promised...' sadly, something Robin has no context for, and then runs away.
agreed
I just realized after 18+ years, Slade's voice is also the narrator for 1000 Ways To Die 💀
Ron Pearlman is a treat
He also narrated the first five Fallout Games.
"War. War never changes..."
Your cut away gags are on point this episode
I've been watching a lot of Teen titans compilation videos lately. And I noticed something interesting. In many ways, the show kind of feels like a prototype for the kind of cartoon that would go on to dominate the 2010s. You know, shows like Gravity falls, Steven Universe, Adventure time, The owl house. The kind of show that's been lovingly dubbed "cartoon epic".
I immediately recognized Ashley Johnson as the VA of Petra (Minecraft Story Mode) and I dont know how to feel about that.
4:56 this is probably the dorkiest joke you've ever told on the channel, and it's exactly the content I subscribed for. Bravo.
Dude, suckin' at something is the first step to bring sorta good at something!
Oh yeah, and she was Jinmay! and Tulip on Infinity Train. Definitely quality voice actress.
I mean, a robe is almost as covered as you can get.. it's a lot more than Raven and Starfire's outfits cover.
eh..., Italians talk with their hands.. maybe that's what she meant? like hey I'm gonna give you gabbagool over here wit a rock. Also, whenever I imagine having superpowers, I always immediately use my hands. I think that's just how we work as a species, you want to guide whatever you can do with the ol grippers. Whether it's some kinda energy or floating objects or whatever.. So yeah it's probably a built-in psychological thing like you said.
Starfire could probably have flown over and caught up with Terra and explained it to her, but.. ehhh it's a story, it's gotta go that way.