A Look at John Bonham's Gear with George Fludas and Terry Keating - EP 179

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  • Опубліковано 20 лис 2022
  • This episode is an in-depth look at John Bonham's drum kits, cymbals, heads, and sticks through his prolific career with Led Zeppelin. Terry Keating (Bonzoleum) and George Fludas (Bonhamology) are experts on all things Bonzo and made this episode a ton of fun and very informative. We start with his rusty old Premier kit, then go through his Trixon and Slingerland sets, then go into extreme detail about his iconic Ludwig drum sets and Paiste cymbals. John Bonham lived a very short 32 year life but has a HUGE impact on musicians still to this day - enjoy this deep dive into his gear!
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  • @af7119
    @af7119 Рік тому +36

    I swear more than half of my Bonham knowledge comes from Terry and George.

    • @DrumHistoryPodcast
      @DrumHistoryPodcast  Рік тому +4

      They are the best!

    • @turdferguson290
      @turdferguson290 Рік тому +1

      @@DrumHistoryPodcast an Alex Van Halen history would be amazing, talk about all types of unique kits!

    • @ochocabra1542
      @ochocabra1542 4 місяці тому

      that's sad

    • @af7119
      @af7119 4 місяці тому

      how so?@@ochocabra1542

  • @drmmadude
    @drmmadude Рік тому +8

    Hi Carmine Appice here … guys you got your dates wrong. Bonzo did not play the big Ludwig’s in Jan 69. It was later than that .
    The first tour he did with the maple which was a copy of my maple kit had double bass drums. Which he used on bonzo Montreux (spelling?) we toured in summer of 69 together …He used that kit. Then page and plant thought he was too busy and asked to get rid of the 2nd bass drum. Thats when the iconic kit was born Not Jan 69. Food for thought !! Thx

    • @Tyrannosaurine
      @Tyrannosaurine Рік тому +1

      Hey Carmine. Love your drumming.

    • @thebiggol
      @thebiggol Рік тому +2

      There are pictures of him playing the blond maple Ludwigs in late Jan. 69. Zeppelin opened for VF on their first 5 US shows in Dec. 1968 as well as a few shows in Feb. 1969.

    • @hipgroove68
      @hipgroove68 2 місяці тому

      Still trying to get a piece of Bonzo.
      Coat tail rider ..

  • @drumbelly
    @drumbelly Рік тому +34

    I think Bonham chose the Amber Vistalite because he really dug the film A Clockwork Orange, so orange drums. The bowler hat he wore was all part of his nod towards the movie. Great video.

    • @Qixo_
      @Qixo_ Рік тому +5

      Source?

    • @DrumHistoryPodcast
      @DrumHistoryPodcast  Рік тому +4

      Wow that is a great thought, it makes a lot of sense!

    • @SopranoPizzaJMFNJ
      @SopranoPizzaJMFNJ Рік тому +1

      No.

    • @drummerchappell
      @drummerchappell 5 місяців тому

      @@SopranoPizzaJMFNJ my a pizza nevera hurt a nobady!

    • @loudmac23
      @loudmac23 2 місяці тому

      I concur. Bonzo was a massive Clockwork Orange fan (1972 release) Vistalite introduced in 1972.
      Just a thought. 🤔

  • @BONHAMOLOGY
    @BONHAMOLOGY Рік тому +38

    Thanks Bart, this was really fun!!
    My favorite moment is 55:13...classic Terry!! 😂

    • @DrumHistoryPodcast
      @DrumHistoryPodcast  Рік тому +1

      Haha yeah that is gold. Thanks George!

    • @NintenDub
      @NintenDub Рік тому +2

      George your the man.keep.crankong stuff out.podcasts,collabs,gear talk etc. It's all great. though I really want to hear your jazz drumming,takes on the style and talks about the history and knowledge you have.we live in a very recorded world,..now. people from your era, are the last to exist where you were adults when the internet rolled around.and you hold a key, to a treasure trove of stuff. The next generation above you where pioneers. Just killing it when it mattered. Such cool times. Those stories,and thoughts that got passed onto people such as yourself, through gigs and studio and just being in the scene in general is really special. In 30 years when today's bands are being combed through(can you even imagine?) They'll be able reference everything about stories and studios and gigs and gear used etc. People like you and Terry are the last kind of folks on that transition line,if you get what I'm trying to convey here. The more stuff you put out and the more you talk,the more this stuff gets recorded for history.just hope you've got your vids backed up,and two step verification. A lot of ppl are getting hacked and when that happens,they delete and mess up all of your shit and it's never the same after. I particularly worry about terry being that his channels older and has quite a bit of subs. Could.happen to him at anytime, I hope you'll pass that forward at some point when chatting with him.can never be too safe..anyway, I always enjoy your knowledge and conversations. We all do. Don't ever think that people don't really care that much about what you do,cuz that's not the case. Keep rocking George

    • @izcote
      @izcote Рік тому

      Great to hear this full exchange & get more data points. Thanks again @bonhamology! 💯

    • @BostonDrummer
      @BostonDrummer Рік тому

      🤧

    • @VegetabIeMan
      @VegetabIeMan Рік тому +3

      Ritchie Ringman

  • @robertschrem2378
    @robertschrem2378 4 місяці тому +1

    Kit, Kit, Kit - not a single minute without this word...

  • @seagullshame
    @seagullshame Рік тому +5

    Good interview/hosting style. Letting the guests talk is always appreciated.

  • @turnsufficient4971
    @turnsufficient4971 Рік тому +14

    Bonzo played a four piece Slingerland drum outfit ! Yes -- finally someone who knows that. Bonzo probably rented in late December 1968 a Ludwig when he came to the states through January 1969. Their first show was Denver Dec 26th, 1968. Bonzo most likely played a Slingerland on their first album.

    • @jeffdharma5755
      @jeffdharma5755 Рік тому +3

      Slingerland Drums rock! Their chrome over brass snare drums are sonic.

    • @giancarlosilano8690
      @giancarlosilano8690 Рік тому +3

      My money's on Slingerland for the first album too

    • @SopranoPizzaJMFNJ
      @SopranoPizzaJMFNJ Рік тому +1

      He also had a green sparkle Ludwig that his parents had purchased for him. It had a 5" deep snare and a 22" kick.

  • @DrumHistoryPodcast
    @DrumHistoryPodcast  Рік тому +2

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  • @af7119
    @af7119 Рік тому +4

    You couldn't have chosen two better dudes.

  • @brianrubin4263
    @brianrubin4263 Рік тому +4

    Bonham was the vistalite, he made them iconic so much they are still popular. I bet if he hadn't played them they probably would have stopped making them years ago

  • @Darrylizer1
    @Darrylizer1 7 місяців тому +1

    I didn't know Bonham used Slingerlands at the beginning of Zeppelin. My first drum set is my 1940s early 1950s Slingerland Radio Kings my dad bought used in 1952. I don't gig with them any more but they're still in fairly good shape.

  • @williamweiss6128
    @williamweiss6128 Рік тому +1

    I still play my 78 Ludwig SS 12, 13, 14, 15 concert toms, 18 floor tom, 24 kick, 5x14 SS snare. People love it. It's loud. Like cannons. I try to behave but.....usually several outbursts occur.

  • @PlayerToBeNamedLater1973
    @PlayerToBeNamedLater1973 Рік тому +14

    Bonham was the kind of musician that doesn't come along often. I've not heard another drummer who has the full package of technique, time and a perfect sense of what was appropriate to play at all times. He could have been been in a funk band , a jazz band a heavy metal band or a pop band and he would have fit right in like he did in Led Zeppelin. They were pretty damned versatile with styles and he could do them all

  • @suphraphonic
    @suphraphonic 7 місяців тому +1

    Just seen a doco about Robert Plants early career , one of the photos shows a colour shot of Robert on stage with Bonzo on a Slingerland kit the Bass and floor tom are green the rack tom is purple but are matching era Slingerlands , sort explains a few queries .

    • @BONHAMOLOGY
      @BONHAMOLOGY 4 місяці тому

      There are very few color pics of his kit from that era, and none show the color clearly. There are pics from Sept 68 in Scandinavia that were black and white and someone colorized them.

  • @drumverb
    @drumverb Рік тому +2

    Fun fact - the black and white swirl Vistalite kit DID have a 20" floor tom, confirmed by the owner Phil Harris who used to rent it out. The drums he ended up with were 10x14", 16x16", 18x20", 14x26"

  • @jamesberlo4298
    @jamesberlo4298 Рік тому +4

    George , you are a Fantastic Drummer, and a Gentleman.

  • @tonymann848
    @tonymann848 Рік тому +5

    Bonzo gave a black and white vistalite kit to journalist Chris Welch after an interview. It appears to be the kit Mick Fleetwood sold.

    • @BONHAMOLOGY
      @BONHAMOLOGY Рік тому +3

      That’s right, forgot about Welch getting the kit

    • @MrTD27
      @MrTD27 Рік тому +1

      @@BONHAMOLOGY Any idea whatever happened to the black and white vistalite?

  • @drummerkev1627
    @drummerkev1627 Рік тому +1

    Great video! Always great to see Terry and George talk about Bonham’s history! Great stuff!

  • @ImaDrummer55
    @ImaDrummer55 Рік тому +3

    Love James Gang -- had this on 8-track, too. So many good songs came from them. Funk # 48, Funk # 49, Walk Away, Woman, and Stop are some of the best out there. You can just hear the roots of where Joe Walsh cut his teeth before he put out Rocky Mountain Way...takes me back to some really good music !!

  • @stevenwilson9865
    @stevenwilson9865 3 місяці тому +1

    I would have bet he would pick the Green Vistalites. But, the Amber must have reminded him of a beer bottle. Lol.
    The stainless steel Ludwigs are my favorite set.!
    R I.P John. 😢

  • @_alex_merrick_
    @_alex_merrick_ 9 місяців тому +3

    Great episode! My dad is actually good friends with Jason and he confirmed a few things speculated about in this video. He said that Bonzo’s Montreux was recorded with the stainless steel kit with a single pedal and the band hated the black and white vistalite so it seems nothing was actually recorded on that kit. Also a fun little bit of trivia he shared was that In Through the Out Door was recorded with the stainless steel kit with the reso head off. I’ve always thought the bass drum on that album had a more “clicky” quality than other records and now I know why.

    • @baneverything5580
      @baneverything5580 7 місяців тому +1

      Jason is a great guy and has his dad`s genes for sure.

    • @baneverything5580
      @baneverything5580 7 місяців тому +2

      Can you ask Jason a question for me please? Did his dad play on any Bad Company tracks? It sounds so much like him.

    • @BONHAMOLOGY
      @BONHAMOLOGY 4 місяці тому

      That is really interesting. I would love to know if he used more than just the standard 5 piece or if he added another tom or two, because I hear at least 4 pitches of the toms on Bonzo's Montreux. I would love to talk to Jason someday about his dad.

  • @SONORSQ2guy
    @SONORSQ2guy Рік тому +4

    I think the only kit left is one of the green sparkle sets it’s in the pool (game) room at John Bonham’s farm in North England.

  • @SKragseth
    @SKragseth Рік тому +5

    Love these guys! What a cool hang 🤘😎

  • @rodrigosaavedra9471
    @rodrigosaavedra9471 Рік тому +9

    I never thought i could be 1:40 hrs listening about LZ without hearing one note from them!!!!. I had a great time. You made it interesting and fun. congrats.

    • @DrumHistoryPodcast
      @DrumHistoryPodcast  Рік тому +4

      Thanks for watching! Unfortunately if we include any music it immediately gets dinged with a copyright claim

    • @Crabbadabba
      @Crabbadabba 6 місяців тому +1

      True professors of music production!

  • @Number4lead
    @Number4lead Рік тому +8

    Bonzo was one of the main reasons I chose a Ludwig set as my first ever brand new drum kit. Incidentally my very first kit I ever had which was used, was a 4 piece light blue pearl design also made by ludwig.

    • @DrumHistoryPodcast
      @DrumHistoryPodcast  Рік тому +1

      Absolutely - Not exactly my first drum set but my first real-deal kit was a Ludwig and it was because of Bonzo and Ringo

    • @baneverything5580
      @baneverything5580 7 місяців тому +1

      Ludwig has a thunderous sound and tone but I had some old 50s or 60s toms in the early 80s with very thin shells with bracing that had a very musical tone. I gave away all my drums to kids who wanted to play over the years and would buy cheap sets on the road while gigging to give away. I wish I would have known better and kept some of the better individual drums for recording. One of my very best sets burnt up in a fire. It had some incredible cymbals including a set of Paiste 2002 and several Zilgian rides and a very odd but great silver one with a strange diamond pattern on it. I mastered that set. Never found anything that came close for live shows.

  • @giancarlosilano8690
    @giancarlosilano8690 Рік тому +3

    Regarding Bonzo's use of 2 bass drums live in concert, I think those gigs were ones with VFudge. So, for logistics' sake, Bonzo, in effect, was using Carmine's set. Just my theory...I could be wrong.

  • @drumdiscussion7776
    @drumdiscussion7776 Рік тому +5

    Thanks, Bart, Terry and George for another great one! I appreciate the factual and folklore information on the John Bonham equipment mystic.

    • @DrumHistoryPodcast
      @DrumHistoryPodcast  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for listening!

    • @johngarin8290
      @johngarin8290 3 місяці тому

      Nobody admits they started on John Greys', although 1st kit I played in anger was Gretch.! Love these Vlogs❤😊

  • @billyjleva
    @billyjleva Рік тому +3

    This was incredible guys. Thanks T+G for sharing your vast knowledge, and thanks Bart for being a fantastic host and giving them the platform to take such a deep dive!

  • @NintenDub
    @NintenDub Рік тому +3

    I love these two.about time it's a video podcast.i hoped for this year's ago

  • @Thomasgene
    @Thomasgene Рік тому

    Thank you! That was great. I will come back to this many times.

  • @Kiekhaefer6
    @Kiekhaefer6 Рік тому +1

    I don't see from the photos what George was talking about regarding the bent or twisted floor tom leg. I looked closely and the picture of the riot aftermath is too unclear to see anything and the photo of the kit from behind looks perfect. The only legs on an angle I think are the tripod cymbals stands

  • @rickpennington2335
    @rickpennington2335 Рік тому +1

    Awesome stuff! Love listening to this conversation about Bonzo and his equipment. So many great memories of the past.

  • @attentionkevin
    @attentionkevin 9 місяців тому +1

    That was a good discussion of the difference in Ludwig green sparkle shades: the earlier kelly green and the later more bluish green shade. Also notable that Ludwig's shade of blue sparkle was different than Slingerland's blue sparkle. Slingerland's blue sparkle was much darker and not readily available for Ludwig drums. Bonham liked Ludwig drums and chose green sparkle, even though he had already had success with Slingerland blue sparkle. Could Bonham have pressed the issue and pressured Ludwig to mimic Slingerland's blue sparkle shade so that he could have had a 26" dark blue sparkle Ludwig set? Yes, but he was clearly satisfied with Ludwig's green sparkle.

  • @Twotontessie
    @Twotontessie Рік тому +3

    There's something super cool about thinking that he used a very basic conventional sized Slingerland on the first album. That set sounds so bad ass. I Can't Quit You, How Many More Times etc. That "clang" in the high tom sounds so rad. Those big roundhouse triplets before D&C slows back down into the verse. Off the charts. Feels like your head is like right up against the drums.
    As I think about it, Moon and Clive Bunker were getting similar killer rack tom sounds. Cranking them up. Moon with four 8 x 14 toms all tuned differently. LOL!!!! I love this stuff!

    • @DrumHistoryPodcast
      @DrumHistoryPodcast  Рік тому +2

      Yeah that is really cool to think of those monster songs being on a basic kit. I love it too, thank you for listening!

  • @CharlesTPrimm
    @CharlesTPrimm Рік тому +1

    Great show! Love these guys.

  • @tomkelsey2303
    @tomkelsey2303 6 місяців тому +1

    I listened up to the Vistalite kit era, and NO mention up to that point about the infamous Ludwig SqueakKing, which was a big part of Bonham's BD sound. 😮

  • @rowan_drums
    @rowan_drums Рік тому

    This is great. Thanks fellas!

  • @suphraphonic
    @suphraphonic Рік тому +5

    OK the Bass drum muffling is fascinating ,but surely those who now own one of Bonzo's kits will have the original front head still with the kit ... or an old drum head of his that someone kept ??? that we could see and solve the mystery ?.

    • @BONHAMOLOGY
      @BONHAMOLOGY Рік тому +2

      I wish!

    • @omegalamda3145
      @omegalamda3145 2 місяці тому

      I’ve the same 67’ Slingerland kit I’ve had since 11 yrs old in Marine pearl. My son pulled it down from the attic and rebuilt it when he was working at a Drumshop in Mi. At JC’s Drum Academy. Bonham was my favorite drummers at time countered only by Mitch Mitchell’s light musical style.
      JC’s Drum Academy. He beveled the rounded rims and set it up the floor Tom on a spring suspension for full resonance. He presented it to me the Xmas morning of 93’. I’ve gigged for the last 30 years w/ it. Rather than the Pearl purchased in late eighties.

  • @robertdore9592
    @robertdore9592 Рік тому +1

    I love Bart; he's both a great researcher and presenter - and a lovely man to boot.

  • @JFKDrummer
    @JFKDrummer Рік тому

    great info ! Thanks!🔥🥁🔥

  • @timbrown6629
    @timbrown6629 Рік тому +2

    If you guys go to the drumarchive. They have Ludwig catalogs online. They offered RUFF KOTE spray in both the 1964 catalog and in the 1973 catalog.

    • @DrumHistoryPodcast
      @DrumHistoryPodcast  Рік тому

      Great suggestion. I have an episode with Andy from the Drum Archive you should check out

  • @GRohn61
    @GRohn61 6 місяців тому

    That was a blast. George and Terry are super entertaining and the knowledge of Bonham minutia wow.

  • @giancarlosilano8690
    @giancarlosilano8690 Рік тому +2

    Regarding the question, of Bonzo's choice of color: 'why GREEN (sparkle), ?' I've always believed he was showing/associating his love of cars with his drums. British Racing Green is/was the color used by British racing teams for the various makes of cars raced (red for Italian Ferraris, Maseratis... Blue for French cars, White for German cars). Just my personal theory...I could be wrong.

    • @DrumHistoryPodcast
      @DrumHistoryPodcast  Рік тому

      That is an interesting Theory. Doesn't seem like much of a stretch at all, he certainly loved his cars

  • @donnybrookstudio4366
    @donnybrookstudio4366 Рік тому

    Excellent show! Really enjoyed this... Thanks much!

  • @Musikmusikmusik
    @Musikmusikmusik 8 місяців тому

    I learn english only for listen this george and bonzoleum terry they help me a lot for tunning my drums like John

  • @KeyFobRob
    @KeyFobRob 10 місяців тому

    Thanks Bart!!

  • @VegetabIeMan
    @VegetabIeMan Рік тому

    Been watching your show and George for years, and Terry even longer. Great chemistry from these two and perfect for your show.

  • @timbrown6629
    @timbrown6629 Рік тому +2

    I had a Vistalite kit with 15", 18", & 20" toms in Smoke. The 20" diameter was 16" deep, not 18" deep.

  • @Nugmania1
    @Nugmania1 Рік тому +2

    Not a drummer, bass player by trade, this was really informative, no matter what Bonzo was unique

  • @shawnsdrumcave
    @shawnsdrumcave Рік тому +2

    Great show guys! I saw a video of Jason talking about his dad, think it was the videos he was doing during the lock downs. he said it was a common misconception his father was a heavy hitter and mentioned in pictures you can see him choked up on the stick. I think George is on to something with how he refined his technique over time. He was bombastic for sure!

    • @Twotontessie
      @Twotontessie Рік тому

      The whole idea of banging drums or hitting them "hard" is ridiculous. If you play properly (relaxed) you'll never break a stick and get a huge sound if you have that attitude. If that's in your soul and what you want. How "hard" you hit is irrelevant. There's a difference between intensity and power and banging/thrashing. That's my speech on that - thank you. 😜

    • @shawnsdrumcave
      @shawnsdrumcave Рік тому

      @@Twotontessie there is no doubt hitting harder changes the sound of the drum. for me there's something about hearing a drum at full volume but it's all personal preference. if that's your style cool. there's some heavy hitters out there i really enjoy their playing but it needs to fit the style of music. your not going to bash away to some jazz tune or a Beatles tune lol but for hard rock, perfectly acceptable imo. i try not to judge other drummers even if i don't care for their style.not like i'm snapping sticks right and left or putting dents in heads but i hit hard, don't have the greatest technique but hey i pay for my sticks and enjoy playing haha who's it hurting? 🤣

  • @douglashardy177
    @douglashardy177 Рік тому

    Very awesome video. I was glued to every word from start to end. 🤘🤘🤘

  • @JoshuaCraigStrain
    @JoshuaCraigStrain Рік тому +1

    GREAT JOB , GUYS !! 🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁 I read on the auction that one guy claims he used the auction set on Led Zep 1 , but he played the green sparkle on Levee . Don't know if he's absolutely correct , but ...

  • @bobweber4140
    @bobweber4140 Рік тому +1

    Love you guys this is awesome info happy thanks giving thankyou gentlemen

  • @bobc.5698
    @bobc.5698 Рік тому +16

    Robert Plant, Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones should collaborate with George Fludas on drums.
    And do 1 concert.
    Terry could be George's drum tech and sit in on one song.

  • @Commander-McBragg
    @Commander-McBragg Рік тому +2

    I wonder if some of the many changes to his kit were at the direction of Ludwig marketing managers to showcase new products.

  • @garylagstrom3864
    @garylagstrom3864 Рік тому +1

    When George smiles he looks like Jay Leno!

  • @brent3760
    @brent3760 5 місяців тому

    I love all 3 of you guys!!! I hope to meet you all at the next Chicago Drum Show!!!

  • @Twotontessie
    @Twotontessie Рік тому

    One final comment - where I first learned all this stuff was a Modern Drummer article in 1984. They had just about all of it. And some great comments from Carmine Appice and some other players who knew Bonham. One guy I think it was Dave Mattacks (?) who had a go on the stainless steel at a sound check. Good stuff worth looking up.

  • @jeffdharma5755
    @jeffdharma5755 Рік тому +2

    Bonham was really into Alphonse Mouzon from the 11th House with Larry Coryell. Killer drummer. He loved those guys like Billy Cobham, Lenny White (Return to Forever - Hymn of 7th Galaxy) and Clyde from James Brown. Great taste!

    • @bomkfort9428
      @bomkfort9428 Рік тому +1

      No he wasn’t. He didn’t care for black drummers, sorry.

    • @BONHAMOLOGY
      @BONHAMOLOGY Рік тому

      ​@@bomkfort9428 You're taking the piss right? 😂

  • @Finsami71
    @Finsami71 Рік тому +2

    What a warm and educational conversation, thanks!.

  • @JoeFranco
    @JoeFranco Рік тому +3

    Not sure about the 2 bass drum story from the Boston Tea Party in Jan '69. I saw them a week later when they opened for Iron Butterfly at the Fillmore East and he had 1BD.

    • @TheDumballa
      @TheDumballa Рік тому +3

      I was at one of those shows and he definitely played 2 bass drums the night I was there. Also you can hear that show on UA-cam and especially during Bonhams solo there is no doubt about the 2 bass drums. I was on the Swan Song label in the seventies and Jimmy Page remembered John Bonham playing two bass drums at the Boston Tea Party show....

    • @JoeFranco
      @JoeFranco Рік тому +1

      @@TheDumballa I stand corrected as I just heard this. ua-cam.com/video/F2rYecyr6Xo/v-deo.html The Boston shows were probably the only time he used 2 kicks.

    • @deaterk
      @deaterk Рік тому +1

      THE Joe Franco!!!
      Super Cool Man!

    • @thebiggol
      @thebiggol Рік тому +1

      @@JoeFranco He used two kicks at San Bernardino Aug 1969. There are pictures from the show. Sadly no bootleg.

  • @robbierussell9536
    @robbierussell9536 6 місяців тому +1

    Hey guys!! John used funnel TOM TOMS during the recording of FOOL IN THE RAIN.. GREEN SPARKLE

  • @bobc.5698
    @bobc.5698 Рік тому +2

    Sammy Hagar interviewed Jason Bonham, Sheila E. and Kenny Aranoff and Jason said he was playing Dr. John in TSRTS.

  • @jerryrios2084
    @jerryrios2084 Рік тому +1

    Thanks guys, enjoyed this video , Ludwig’s are the best

  • @michaelwhitlow8467
    @michaelwhitlow8467 Рік тому +4

    Man… Geeking on Bonham with you guys is freakin’ awesome!

  • @tonymann848
    @tonymann848 Рік тому +2

    Eddie Ryan is the guy who made Bonzo’s Promuco sticks. He even made drum kits including Martin Chambers Black and White kit. Eddie passed away so the new Promuco is different.

    • @BONHAMOLOGY
      @BONHAMOLOGY Рік тому +1

      Thank you Tony, I couldn’t recall his name. Yeah the new Promuco are not like Bonzo’s really

  • @thebiggol
    @thebiggol Рік тому +1

    Concerning the damage done to the green sparkle kit at the Milan show 1971. Mick Hinton (Bonhams tech/roadie) did an interview where he said of that show - "I remember we lost the hi hat but the rest of the kit was, incredibly, OK." Also there a clear photos taken of the kit about 8 months later in Perth where the legs of the floor toms are normal. No bending. I think in the pic Mr. Fludas is referring to (the kit from behind taken in Paris 73) what he thinks is a bent floor tom leg is the leg of the cymbal stand.

  • @Frankietomatoes6189
    @Frankietomatoes6189 Рік тому +1

    Great video guys

  • @featherinthewind333
    @featherinthewind333 Рік тому

    absolutely fascinating

  • @erico2948
    @erico2948 Рік тому +1

    Also they would take a foam layer and lay it along the parameter of the inner shell.

  • @academaciated7466
    @academaciated7466 6 місяців тому

    About every three years I get the Bonham bug and these streams are fascinating 👍🏻

  • @chraffis
    @chraffis Рік тому +2

    Hey! First time here to be honest. I follow George and Terry around the interwebs like little (chubby), cute (ugly) teenybopper (old) Lori Maddox (travisd). I am glad they LED me to you. Excellent job, btw. Keep it up!
    👍👍

    • @DrumHistoryPodcast
      @DrumHistoryPodcast  Рік тому

      Haha thats hysterical - welcome and thank you for watching my friend!

  • @russellesimonetta9071
    @russellesimonetta9071 Рік тому +1

    Interesting aside,,, I saw Zeppy four times!!! All in Chicago!! I saw the maple drums the green drums and the vistalights! I can,t remember the fourth show.

  • @user-bn5xy6my1k
    @user-bn5xy6my1k 6 місяців тому

    I saw him August 17th 1969. He was playing 1 base drum that night.

  • @stevenpurdy2235
    @stevenpurdy2235 Рік тому +6

    Thank you Bart these 2 Gentlemen were Bonham fanatics. If you happen to be a Drum nerd like myself, every word you want to file into your memory banks. Some very interesting stuff, and I learned a lot that I didn't know about Bonzo. Who is still technically one of the best Drummers ever. T Y S.R.PURDY 🥁 GOD BLESS

    • @DrumHistoryPodcast
      @DrumHistoryPodcast  Рік тому

      Thank you Steven! I am very glad you enjoyed it, Terry and George are great

  • @loucontino4804
    @loucontino4804 6 місяців тому

    Incredibly interesting history here. Strips of newspaper or crumpled newspaper were standard affair from the 60's in drums. Toms too! Questioning the bass drum heads breaking periodically...was it through the beater spot or was it the beater breaking off and the rod going through the head? I've had the latter happen to me, but that was through crappy bass drum beaters that were screwed onto the rod. Don't forget Fibes Crystalite drums were years ahead of Vistalite. Fibes made Clear, Black Smoke and Frosted. Vistas came around in '72.

  • @pauls2099
    @pauls2099 Рік тому +6

    Rarely mentioned is the pre zeppelin record bonham did with Lord Sutch which was a great album and you can really hear that zeppelin feel.

    • @robbasso893
      @robbasso893 Рік тому

      I specifically have “Flashing Lights” from that album. Right away you know it’s Bonham and it sounds great!

  • @averyetvspecial1487
    @averyetvspecial1487 Рік тому +1

    I don’t think it was mentioned here but I’m pretty sure the blue sparkle Slingerlands were Jim McCarty’s kit that remained with the Yardbirds (and therefore The New Yardbirds, and therefore Bonzo) during the “changing of the guard” as Page and Grant finished out the contract.
    To that end I’ve also often speculated that Bonham’s black pearl Ludwig and blue sparkle Slingerland kits might’ve traded snare drums for the Led Zep I era.

    • @BONHAMOLOGY
      @BONHAMOLOGY Рік тому +2

      Yes I’ve heard that mentioned before, I can’t recall where I read it but a couple different places although it seems possible, there is no proof that I could find in photos of the Yardbirds with that Slingerland kit

  • @lauratanner8475
    @lauratanner8475 Рік тому +1

    Misty mountain hop also shares a similar sound with down by the seaside

  • @luvbasses5487
    @luvbasses5487 Рік тому +4

    Keep in mind too that by the ‘73 U.S. tour, Hinton was setting a hot Shure mic up on every piece of his kit. I’ve noticed this from studying all the pictures and Zeppelin posters through the years. That said, he didn’t have to hit as hard to project the sound as much as in the earlier days. By now every piece of percussion was coming through a huge, finely tuned SHOWCO PA system. If you listen to some of the ‘77 boots (audience tapes) and during Kashmir the kick drum sounds like a cannon firing off each time (28.4.77 in particular.) It’s just incredible to hear and was more powerful than the ‘75 versions to my ears. As if steel shells aren’t already loud enough, they still were heavily mic-ed by Hinton. Listen to other live tapes from various rock acts of the day. None ever have the drums as high up in the mix as Zeppelin did. It was just about 3/4’s of their overall sound. Zeppelin relied HEAVILY on drums. John’s brut hammer n nails approach coupled with a full on mic-ed up kit resulted in something very unique. No other drummer could ever sound like him.

    • @BONHAMOLOGY
      @BONHAMOLOGY Рік тому +1

      Very true

    • @luvbasses5487
      @luvbasses5487 Рік тому +1

      @@BONHAMOLOGY ...one more thing that dawned on me concerning the green sparkle kit. There’s such a color called British Racing Green and I have a gut feeling that Bonzo was partial to this color. After all, he was a real deal speed freak. That GS Ludwig kit does resemble BRG.

    • @lauratanner8475
      @lauratanner8475 Рік тому +1

      @@luvbasses5487 I love British racing green. I build amps and always use British racing green tolex to replicate the look of early Marshall amps that sort of turn green with time

    • @luvbasses5487
      @luvbasses5487 Рік тому +1

      @@lauratanner8475 ...something tells me Bonzo was well aware of and liked this color...which leads me to believe it’s the reason he may have chosen it when browsing the Ludwig catalog.

    • @Twotontessie
      @Twotontessie Рік тому

      I thought the stainless steel sounded like shit. Just didn't do it for me.

  • @regulargeye2009
    @regulargeye2009 2 місяці тому

    Nice work, Gents!!!!

  • @thetype85
    @thetype85 Рік тому +1

    it's about time!!

  • @tommybell1786
    @tommybell1786 Рік тому

    Great video. Wish his pedals were discussed. Loved it!

    • @DrumHistoryPodcast
      @DrumHistoryPodcast  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching! You are right, that slipped my mind. We know it was a SpeedKing but I'm not sure what was before that

    • @tommybell1786
      @tommybell1786 Рік тому

      @@DrumHistoryPodcast That's kind of what I've always assumed, but there's been different versions of the speed king over the years. Still I LOVED this discussion.
      Also, on a related note, I was a little disappointed that Jason used a different acrylic kit (Pearl, I think) & Zildjians for the reunion show...he did great, but the gear is important, at least a little bit imo...

    • @deaterk
      @deaterk Рік тому +1

      @@tommybell1786 - Jason’s kit was Ludwig. (Well documented and photographed…no more than a Google search will confirm this)
      Jason discussed the cymbals around the time of that show, saying he’d been happily with Zildjian for over 20 years (at that point) and saw no reason to change for just one gig.

    • @tommybell1786
      @tommybell1786 Рік тому

      @@deaterk My bad, you're absolutely right about them being Ludwig's.

  • @Twotontessie
    @Twotontessie Рік тому +2

    Cool to see this - didn't know there were videos. Just listening to this on a run yesterday. You know, I'm convinced the Vistalite is on Physical Graffiti. That stuff recorded in '74 - those sessions. Those fills in "In the Light" ..."In My Time of Dying" "Sick Again" and all that. That sounds like the acrylic to me. Bass drum is bright and loud - doesn't have the same character as the previous albums. Anybody else hear it?
    By the way, cool perspective about the Vistalites having kind of a homogenous sound. Kind of a blend when he was doing the rolls and call and response riffs with Page. Yes I totally get what you're saying.

    • @BONHAMOLOGY
      @BONHAMOLOGY Рік тому +1

      I agree, I don't recall if we mentioned that but I think some or all of the tracks recorded in 74 for PG may have been the Amber kit

  • @Crabbadabba
    @Crabbadabba 6 місяців тому

    The host has a great timbre to his voice!

  • @metzilla
    @metzilla Рік тому +1

    Vistas have to be 72, because last year they started w/ the 50th Anniversary Vista kits, yes?

  • @russellesimonetta9071
    @russellesimonetta9071 Рік тому

    Ohhhh, some of those pictures show John using Slingerland cymbal stands!!!! With the swervomatic tilters!

  • @AceFurley
    @AceFurley Рік тому

    How did drummers (especially drummers like Bonham with a heavy foot) keep their bass drums in place? They had spurs that only balanced with no teeth, and in the rare pic where a rug was used, it was basically a floor mat! Some actually nailed the wooden front rim into the stage, but that's a rare occurance with venues frowning on large holes in their stage. I've seen countless pics of the drums on raw wood floors (ringo), try that without every drum bouncing feet away within 30 seconds of even light jazz tapping!!! (I lugged a masonry brick around for years until I got smart and bolted a small wood block into the front of a 4'x4'square of my old shag living room carpet as a diy drum rug). It's a mystery wrapped in an enigma that keeps me awake late into the night for years on end!

    • @BONHAMOLOGY
      @BONHAMOLOGY Рік тому

      Bonzo's drums were set up on a wooden platform that was specially made that could fold into three sections to pack up. When it was opened it had holes drilled where the Spurs snare stand high hat stand and I believe floor tom legs all set in place. Therefore, it wouldn't move at all. You can see the platform in many photos

  • @joejurick4263
    @joejurick4263 Рік тому

    George and Terry,What could be better😀

  • @meanmetalmike666
    @meanmetalmike666 Рік тому +1

    My Guess is late 79 & Early 80 is when Bonham used Black Stacattos on the Paul McCartney Rockestra Song and supposedly those were his own Drums not much else is known where he Got them!

  • @keith1r
    @keith1r 9 місяців тому

    He started using the green sparkle during the recording of the 4th album

  • @timbrown2637
    @timbrown2637 Рік тому +1

    I have a 16 and 20 on one set and there is a monstrous difference, no wa you can mistake it no matter the camera angle.

  • @chrisdavies73
    @chrisdavies73 Рік тому +1

    Great chat, AND nobody shaved Ringo's head👍

  • @andrewjohnson388
    @andrewjohnson388 Рік тому

    Great ...interesting to see Bonham in early photo with left hand jazz style, not match grip, I started like that, too many blisters! Yes Bonzoleum are cool guys to watch. From UK ..

  • @rogercaruso9337
    @rogercaruso9337 Рік тому +1

    I got the CD where they're doing Immigrant Song live outside he's playing a green drum set not sure if it was a sparkle but it was from the CD How the West Was Won I believe where you see a car driving onto the field and then it pans through the crowd and then the song starts the Immigrant Song John Bonham's playing a green drum set but I couldn't tell if it was Sparkle

  • @baneverything5580
    @baneverything5580 7 місяців тому +1

    Can someone ask Jason Bonham a question for me please? Did his dad play on any Bad Company tracks? It sounds so much like him a few times. I was supposed to meet him in Monroe, Louisiana at a show in the 90s (a female fronted the band he was in...lost my ticket...show was Feb. 12 I believe in 97/98?) and my girlfriend started a bunch of BS and I couldn`t go. This question was the first thing I had planned to ask.

  • @CliveRodell
    @CliveRodell Рік тому +1

    Wonderful, thank you.... but what about the Midnight Blue Hayman kit, supposedly given to Bev Beven? 26 x 15 Bass drum...

    • @BONHAMOLOGY
      @BONHAMOLOGY Рік тому

      I have heard about that but no evidence , sorry we forgot to bring that up

  • @michaelgary1717
    @michaelgary1717 Рік тому +2

    Just a thought, could the mystery ring on the bass drum head have something to to with the 3 circle Bonham symbol? Maybe it was some kind of clear plastic or vinyl sticker that was put on those heads?

    • @michaelgary1717
      @michaelgary1717 Рік тому +2

      Is the same ring in the 69-70 kit and stainless kit that don’t use the symbol? Maybe it’s that simple??

  • @lauratanner8475
    @lauratanner8475 Рік тому +3

    For me Zep 4 is such a magical album. The way the instruments blend with each other is really special and bonzos drum sound is a big part of it. That would have been by most accounts the green sparkle kit.

    • @Twotontessie
      @Twotontessie Рік тому +3

      I started with that album when I was 7. It always felt like I was in the presence of something supernatural like the Loch Ness monster. Still feel like that. Not of this Earth....

  • @chrisbruce8777
    @chrisbruce8777 Рік тому

    loved this