What Do London’s Rough Sleepers Think About The General Election?

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  • @jensnotdoxxingmyself8210
    @jensnotdoxxingmyself8210 5 років тому +224

    People need to understand that politics is not some abstract thing that you do every couple of years and then life moves on.
    It's a matter off life and death for many

    • @jjosephs6521
      @jjosephs6521 5 років тому +2

      People need to understand that politics is mostly economics whether that employment regulations, NHS funding, privatization vs nationalization, tax rates, council housing, trade policy, monetary policy, fiscal policy and so on. Most people including most journalists, politicians, activists and the general public are severely economically illiterate and are severely uninformed to make any arguments or take position on any of those topics.

    • @jjosephs6521
      @jjosephs6521 5 років тому +1

      @@GenericCat
      A stuipit story masquerading as an actual argument.
      Economics is a social science concerned with the production, distribution, and consumption of goods and services. It studies how individuals, businesses, governments, and nations make choices on allocating finite resources.
      If you make an argument of how any resources should be used by definition your making an economic argument.
      Karl Marx in the communist manifesto was making economic arrangements.
      Any time you mention how resources should be used your making an economic argument. That resources allocations affects can be mesured and modelled.

    • @jjosephs6521
      @jjosephs6521 5 років тому

      @@kaytsippy1981
      You comment proved my point, from reading your comment I get the impression you think accounting and economics is the same thing.
      Labours manifesto is not fully costed since its release they have announced more spending also to my knowledge they haven't produced any economic modeling on the effects of there policies. (Nor has any other party but you mentioned labour)
      You comment makes a lot of assertions you did proved arguments or evidence for. The most obvious is your claim about bailing out of the banks you didn't address the arguments made for "bailouts". You cant just assert they were a bad idea with out addressing the arguments made in favor for them.

    • @jjosephs6521
      @jjosephs6521 5 років тому

      @@kaytsippy1981
      Your comment is completely ridiculous and absurd, what do i believe, you haven't specified what you think I believe, your comment makes you sound like a crazy person. I've made no claim other than people dont know how economics works, labour announced more spending after they said there manifesto was costed and that labour didn't realise or publish any economic modeling of the effects on there policies.

    • @jjosephs6521
      @jjosephs6521 5 років тому +1

      @@kaytsippy1981
      Unless you make an actual argument not just vomit rhetoric at me I'm not gonna respond to your comments.

  • @thisaccountisdead9060
    @thisaccountisdead9060 5 років тому +57

    When I was younger a college tutor once said to me that the only job people have is to make other people redundant. He should've said obsolete - as that's the reality now, since the great 'workfare' revolution to replace 'welfare', and then 'austerity'. What do people think it is going to be like with a tory government that pulls out of europe and the human rights convention? Life isn't some board game.

  • @kimwarburton8490
    @kimwarburton8490 5 років тому +99

    To my knowledge, labour only ones whove spoken about homelessness n erradicating the root causes

    • @wagane1
      @wagane1 5 років тому +7

      They also did lots to help reduce it before 2010.

    • @ProfessorEGadd
      @ProfessorEGadd 5 років тому +22

      @zezt zezter Immigrants are a net benefit to the UK. Housing isn't being gobbled up by poor people comming here from abroad. It's being gobbled up by landlords and the wealthy. Right now there are more houses/bedrooms per person in the UK than ever before, but we can't use them because they are kept empty or overpriced by the rich.

    • @cometmoon4485
      @cometmoon4485 5 років тому +16

      @zezt zezter
      Trust me. It's not scary brown people who are taking homes away from the poor. It's millionaire capitalists deliberately keeping homes empty for their own self interests.

    • @kernow24
      @kernow24 5 років тому

      You'll never eradicate it, it's a lefty pipedream

    • @colinsixhitter3303
      @colinsixhitter3303 5 років тому +10

      @zezt zezter The tories decided higher property values was more important than people. The promised 200,000 starter homes none of which were built would have not only supplied a start for young people but would have lowered prices and rents. The homeless are a political decision. Our economy is addicted to cheap labour, another political decision so instead of training people we discard them for a cheaper source.
      Labour are not throwing the borders any more open than the tories already have but pretend they have not. Difference is Labour is going to build homes. Is going to offer training to skill up our workforce and going to provide the jobs for those higher skilled workers. The investment in this country will be country wide not London central.
      Its funny to me that those that say all the politicians are the same are not noticing that those politicians that have let them down hate Corbyn because he is not one of them and the very people that say they are full of shit do exactly what the fake MP's tell them to do.

  • @infesticon
    @infesticon 5 років тому +27

    80 percent increase in child homeless what the actual hell? Oo

  • @Madyetmellow
    @Madyetmellow 5 років тому +56

    Thankfully I am no longer a rough sleeper. When I was homeless there was a hell of a lot more support than there is now. It’s become a business now and the homeless are little more than £ signs. Some of these charities are even removing staff that have years of experience both being on the streets and working with the homeless for people with a business brain/background 😞

    • @kimwarburton8490
      @kimwarburton8490 5 років тому +12

      I was homeless too
      Nightstop in exeter was a literal lifesaver, even tho i was technically 2mnths too old, they looked after me.

    • @ProfessorEGadd
      @ProfessorEGadd 5 років тому +4

      Hi Madyetmellow, Can you let me know which charities/modes of giving you found most useful? I give money directly to rough sleepers and via charities but I'd like to hear how it works from your side. Which charities to recommend or (if any) to avoid, for example. I'm always keen to learn more. Thanks in advance!

    • @wagane1
      @wagane1 5 років тому +6

      I never had to sleep rough but was homeless with my wife and 2 kids for around 5 years.
      I try to take food every day or so from work. They tell me donations drop off in the winter so if you want to donate food or toys or warm clothes, now is the time to do it.

    • @IshtarNike
      @IshtarNike 5 років тому +2

      Haha "brain" background. Don't be so charitable (no pun intended) the word is business/pillaging background.

    • @Madyetmellow
      @Madyetmellow 5 років тому +4

      ProfessorEGadd my honest opinion might be in contrast to a lot of these charities. Personally I would give it to the person in need sleeping in a doorway. If I see someone selling the Big Issue I will give them the money but not take the paper and tell them to sell it on. By the time you give it to a charity it’s been swallowed up in admin and nonsense and won’t really get funnelled back down soon enough to help that person in a sleeping bag now and to where it’s needed. My personal experience of being homeless was a long time ago and there’s a million stories there 😂.
      I will probably get comments like “you cannot do that” or “they’ll just spend it on drink and/or drugs”. I have heard it so many times from people that don’t understand how people could be in that position in a heartbeat and through no fault of their own. To some people it’s the person in the doorways fault without knowing the circumstances that put them there :(
      I am not saying donating money to some of these charities is a waste of time and if you can or do keep doing it, but if you can help someone directly go for that option.
      Sometimes just stopping and talking to someone in that position works wonders for them (from person experiences anyway) it made me feel human and gave me the lift I needed to get out of that situation. :)

  • @finneire1282
    @finneire1282 5 років тому +14

    Guy at the end is right. The resources are there to give people a home. Making those unoccupied houses livable is an infrastructure job that boosts the economy. This should be a no brainer

  • @Rickstartattooman
    @Rickstartattooman 5 років тому +38

    Absolutely shocking , considering we're the fifth richest country in the world!

    • @saudiprince6532
      @saudiprince6532 5 років тому +4

      Ricky Greenleaf America is the richest in the world and they think that there military is more important than the huge wealth divide they have in their country

    • @Jackc3105
      @Jackc3105 5 років тому +4

      Take for example, Germany, 4th richest in the world. 860,000 homeless, compared to Britain’s 320,000.
      In Germany 19.7% live in poverty, the uk is about the same, however that’s 19 million in poverty in Germany and roughly 13/14 million in the UK. Doesn’t matter how rich you are, you could be the richest country in the world and still suffer from high poverty.

    • @dancollins3999
      @dancollins3999 5 років тому +4

      Uncle but it doesn’t have to be this way

    • @silversurfer8212
      @silversurfer8212 5 років тому +4

      Ricky green leaf. The government have money, but welfare support has been systematically removed.
      It has been a deliberate slash and burn policy, forced on the most vulnerable by lan Duncan Smith.

  • @matthewmoss1589
    @matthewmoss1589 5 років тому +6

    Too many people are too far removed from the realities of this. Good video.

  • @Garry_N
    @Garry_N 5 років тому +79

    More Empathy needed, UK what’s wrong with you?

    • @DavidByrne85
      @DavidByrne85 5 років тому

      To feel emphathy you have to be able to focus your attention and think first - as a polity we're collectively braindead. Just as incapable of paying attention to issues that effect us as the beggar on the street. We're the dog in UP - the media or the tories just point at SQUIRREL and we're off on another red herring news cycle

    • @mariecrowe8843
      @mariecrowe8843 5 років тому +11

      YoshiPeach Mario Wow, is that what you think. The torys got rid of housing benefit which helped create this mess. Yet they give tax breaks to their rich friends. I hope for your sake you never need this help. But all need help in our lives, no man is an island.

    • @adam7802
      @adam7802 5 років тому +3

      It seems its too easy for people to ignore things they can't see or have to deal with themselves

    • @alishanty
      @alishanty 5 років тому +3

      YoshiPeach Mario but no one says that when the politicians find billions for no deal prep that’s unecessary or promise tax breaks to the wealthy? And don’t forget, homelessness has increased due to CUTS. Meaning the resources were there before, but it was cut.. because ‘austerity’. Where’s all the money/savings gone from these cuts we were told were necessary? People will be saying we can’t afford schools next, already saying it about healthcare. People have been conditioned into thinking we can’t afford it, but we can.

    • @number1neek
      @number1neek 5 років тому +2

      John Buffalo I am 97 I struggle to follow the thought process that has led you to the conclusion that somehow having chosen to serve in the military, they have chosen to become homeless. Are there any thoughts in there? 🧠

  • @dancollins3999
    @dancollins3999 5 років тому +19

    Good and important video. It’s time to abolish private property

    • @Paddehj
      @Paddehj 5 років тому +1

      Have you lost the plot?

    • @dancollins3999
      @dancollins3999 5 років тому +1

      T Kit the point is no one owns it. Everyone gets a home free and they’re not treated as commodity but as necessity

    • @dancollins3999
      @dancollins3999 5 років тому +1

      Richy Rich I mean it’d be complex to implement but it’d work much better than our current system which leaves people homeless when there’s enough houses in the U.K. for everyone in the U.K. and more

  • @christophersmith2581
    @christophersmith2581 5 років тому +7

    So many similarities between the homeless in the UK and U.S. As someone who is currently homeless here in the States I can attest that there are many people here who do not care about the homeless, politician or not.

  • @umasoopie8945
    @umasoopie8945 5 років тому +8

    That's heartbreaking

  • @santinogazi
    @santinogazi 5 років тому +44

    And people want to vote Tory because of “brexit”

    • @paulwilcox1712
      @paulwilcox1712 5 років тому +18

      @@highdefinitionstanleytm9614 The Tories are the joke mate, that's why they have a clown as leader

    • @cactustactics
      @cactustactics 5 років тому +9

      don't forget though, a lot of people have been sold this lie that all the problems they see in their lives and in the country are somehow down to the EU. That's why the tories push brexit so hard, it's a show to cover up their record and pretend they're capable or willing to fix things

    • @paulwilcox1712
      @paulwilcox1712 5 років тому +4

      @John Buffalo I am 97 how do you come to that opinion john?

    • @blancmull3886
      @blancmull3886 5 років тому +1

      No. They vote Tory because the last time Labour was in power they absolutely destroyed the economy

    • @paulwilcox1712
      @paulwilcox1712 5 років тому +4

      @@blancmull3886 And you think it's got better since then under the tories? Falsly imposing austerity. Go look up some facts on how the tories really run the economy.

  • @decentone3934
    @decentone3934 5 років тому +6

    It should be a basic human right to have shelter in this country. Remember what are you people paying tax for and national insurance. These politicians do not have your interest in their heart's.
    Need to change their ways in a lot of ways .

  • @gerrabath
    @gerrabath 5 років тому +13

    Help For Heroes should be renamed Help Some Already Rich Bastards Get Richer.

    • @jangomoonstomp
      @jangomoonstomp 5 років тому +1

      @Alan Brookes why don't you have something to say about the military charities who are taking the public's money and hoarding it, whilst vets are dying of cold and hunger?
      No one left behind, aside from the homeless, that's disgusting 😥

  • @jamesedwards7237
    @jamesedwards7237 5 років тому +3

    how normal homeless people are should shock people. these are ordinary people. im somewhat shocked. most people i know would be profoundly shocked.

  • @simonedgbaston
    @simonedgbaston 5 років тому +14

    Vote Labour & save our welfare state 🌹

  • @DV-dt9sq
    @DV-dt9sq 5 років тому +5

    It is called capitalist regime.

  • @heidistinton721
    @heidistinton721 5 років тому

    Well said.xx

  • @commorevpenguin9602
    @commorevpenguin9602 5 років тому +2

    End Capitalism!

  • @unbrnwsh
    @unbrnwsh 5 років тому +3

    They should organize and have protest marches in front of Parliament. That is how democracy works

  • @zaygezunt
    @zaygezunt 5 років тому +2

    Absolutely heartbreaking. How can people even consider voting for five more years of suffering and deprivation? Can you imagine the situation in 2024 if the Tories win? I can, I expect to join these shivering people; having narrowly escaped homelessness once, next time the political climate will make sure there is no rescue. At least the homeless have humanity

  • @rhyscooper3693
    @rhyscooper3693 5 років тому +1

    High empty property taxes!

  • @dasgutz37
    @dasgutz37 5 років тому

    This, posted 3rd December on twitter:
    Convo with L. Cpl. P., homeless outside Tesco. Read-in, wired, politically conversant, incandescent w/ Tories, admires Corbyn... resolutely voting Conservative.
    Why?... C.O. says "we serve to conserve".

  • @charlesbaker7505
    @charlesbaker7505 5 років тому

    I think they should mention that before 2010 they never actually published reports of rough sleeping in an accurate way so if in 2005 there were 9,000 rough sleepers... We wouldnt know

  • @heidistinton721
    @heidistinton721 5 років тому

    They want a Labour government in as Labour only party who cares for all and believe in equality.

  • @taliquetaylor2407
    @taliquetaylor2407 5 років тому +3

    If those damn Tories win again, I’ll be utterly terrified of what’s going to happen in the UK and here in the US with Trump. We have 500k homeless people in the US. A national outrage.

  • @heidistinton721
    @heidistinton721 5 років тому

    Ps lots valid reasons that make people homeless but ,I say,never judge homeless as your not them.plus for ones on drink or drugs,it may be they only escape from reality of being homeless or they previous life before than as all have they true life story and empathy,compassion,talk,giving, not judging I'm sure really helps.xxx

  • @PaulGappyNorris
    @PaulGappyNorris 5 років тому

    Submarine geezer ....😬

  • @sasbetasquadron873
    @sasbetasquadron873 5 років тому +1

    Britain isnt what she used to be...

  • @ramatgan1
    @ramatgan1 5 років тому +3

    I wouldn't be surprised if they vote Tory. Would not be surprised.

  • @olmostgudinaf8100
    @olmostgudinaf8100 5 років тому

    I am reading the comments and I see a clear pattern. There are those who have compassion (Side A) and those who do not understand what the word means (Side B). There is nothing in the middle. Trying to reconcile the two sides is hard while they both use their own language. It is impossible for Side B to understand Side A, it is not in their nature (otherwise they would have found compassion already). On the other hand, it is in Side A's nature to empathize with others. So it is up to them to find a language that Side B understands.
    So, bleeding heart lefty snowflakes... let's give up trying to persuade Side B with arguments about compassion, suffering and other things that would persuade _us._ It does not work on _them._ Instead, let's imagine ourselves heartless, callous and egocentric. What arguments would persuade us if were like that to act in a humane way?

    • @olmostgudinaf8100
      @olmostgudinaf8100 4 роки тому

      ian close in other words, "You called me out! I How dare you? am so offended!"
      I bet you call the compassionate "snowflakes", clearly oblivious of the irony.

    • @olmostgudinaf8100
      @olmostgudinaf8100 4 роки тому

      Yet _you_ are the one who is offended. I contrasted the compassionate against the ones who lack the capability. I did not put you into either camp, you did it yourself. And then got offended by it.
      That says more about you than about me, my friend.

    • @olmostgudinaf8100
      @olmostgudinaf8100 4 роки тому

      I see we both misjudged each other. I never said it is black and white to _me._ It is an observation from the comments. _They_ are black and white. Admit it, so were yours until your last one.

  • @1000dannycawley
    @1000dannycawley 5 років тому

    Wots with the AyoCaesar Name, The Native Sense is Very in Tune Regarding the Election, I do think there should be a place for people to improve themselves and change but people have free will also regarding drug use or English ignorance, need to recognise our strengths and lift right populations up

  • @Prodby20
    @Prodby20 5 років тому

    Labour : let’s increase the minimum wage so that homeless people with little to no skills have even less of a chance of getting a job 👌