Western defence spending essential to defeat ‘autocratic tyrant’ Putin | Hamish de Bretton-Gordon
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2024
- “Come November people are not be going to the election booths, they are actually going to the recruiting centres. Because if things go badly we could be involved in a war with Russia”.
UK defence spending is crucial because Putin is an “autocratic tyrant” and “putting everything into his armaments” says former army officer and chemical weapons expert Hamish de Bretton-Gordon
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This woman has totally lost the plot !!!
She's a Russian plant, how can she sit there and think, there will not be a war if we don't stop Putin
What she fails to realise is, China is also watching, because if Putin wins, this will encourage China to invade Taiwan, then the West will have too massive countries with unspeakable military resources attacking their friends, and they will have no other option but to respond militarily to keep the peace
Grace is disillusional.!
What a punk , saying thanks for having is admitting a clear sin ,what the f does puntin want the headache of having the boltics , he doesn't even want fhe whole of Ukraine, it's a liability more than anything.Western mongers have lost their heads in logic 🤔🥴
Most women have 🤣
What a stereotypical, misogynistic statement. A real treasure you are. @@user-gf5nu9os2n
He's right, she's wrong!
He is wrong on every count . Watch has is silly predictions fall flat like all his others . He is just trying to squeeze money out of the taxpayers for his mates in the weapons industry and nato .
what? supporting NAIS? remember how the Taliban and Osama were called "Freedom Fighters" back in the 1980's or ISIS in 2014? look how that turned out
It's clear that Grace did not grow up in the shadow of a world war. She didn't see the effect on her father who served, her mother who never saw her big brother again, or a grandmother who never came to terms of the loss of her oldest son on Iwo Jima.
Without a strong defense, a nation leaves itself vulnerable. A well defended nation makes enemies think twice
You clowns actually think Russia is going to invade Western Europe? 😂
Russia has invaded or occupied Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Finland, Georgia, Ukraine (to name a few) so yes it is a concern. @@juventinocasillas3023
Did-did russia invade iwo jima? Maybe you should learn your history. Then youd realive every 50yrs the nutters in europe try russia...and always lose
@@juventinocasillas3023 Maybe not,but Putin only has to set foot in one of the Baltic states for it to kick off.
@@juventinocasillas3023us clowns have noted that putin is invading an independent Ukraine has invaded Ukraine's Crimea has threatened other countries and has invaded Chechnya and Georgia.What do you clowns think? nothing has happened?
Oh, we could win a war with de-carbonization! What a complete fool. Who chose her for a real interview.
She has a valid point of view but that ship has sailed now.
Decarbonization 2-3 decades ago would have denied Russia the capability to build up its war machine and try to regain its empire.
Now we're in the Age of Consequences.
@@ahaveland What you are missing is that decarbonization is IMPOSSIBLE. Shut down petroleum and the world comes to a halt and 100s of millions die. So her point is fantasy.
@ahaveland
And what were you going to do 2 to 3 decades ago to keep up with energy demand? Solar? Wind? They're not ready for prime time now. What makes you think they were going to save the planet 2 to 3 decades ago?
Did you know that the Green Party in Germany is a product of Russian counter intelligence and disinformation. It was the Green Party that forced Germany to shut down its coal and nuclear plants and adopt cheap Russian natural gas until they could make the transition. The idea was to keep Germany in line by controlling her energy supply and it almost worked.
I'm sure Poland could have benefited from better schools and hospitals in 1939.
being carbon neutral could have avoided it 😆
Here you have the crux of it. Putin set us on the war path. We mustn't fold.
I reckon we're probably of different opinions dude,however your comment cracked me up😂
Luckily russia sorted out your problem then
This guy is totally lying there is no evidence or rationale for Russia to go into the Baltic States or Poland.
It's just Western propaganda to keep the fear up and the funds flowing
That woman is an absolute deluded soul. She circumvents the question on how to deal with him right now.
Grace is a total clown.
She is a woman.
Nope. Shes right. This channel is all fear mongering. The average Brit or European does not need to worry about Russia.
she is ignorant, grabs her plastic bottle made using oil..
I agree. She's a naive idiot if she thinks everything can be solved by sitting down and having a cup of tea with Putin.
She's strategically illiterate. If the UK fell under Putin's forces, I want a guarantee the she wouldn't get to seek refugee status in another country. She can stay right where she is.
Putin loves her :)
Grace is so removed from ordinary society and it shows.
Sorry Grace I think you are wrong
History obviously wasn't one of her best subjects.
She is another appeaser
Britain knows to its cost that appeasement never works.
Hamish is correct
Correctly ignorant.
Unfortunately Grace could cause alot of damage to society if we don't spend on defence. Maybe she need to learn some history.
*a lot (two words).
Glad Grace is not in charge. Jeez
This lady is crazy.
Grace is clearly an educated young woman, but naive.
Civilization is just a veneer...
If you keep one eye on the past, you are blind in one eye, but if you forget the past, you are blind in both...
You may not want war, but war will find you.
So if you want peace,
Prepare for war.
Ex. RE
Ubique
Like that
@@danielraiter Reminds me of demonstations in Denmark today. Last year, the goverment decided to remove the national holiday "Store Bededag" (literally meaning great prayers day) to increase work output and boost economy, some of the extra income has been set aside to help Ukraine. Well, today was "Store Bededag" and people were demonstrating, some holding signs protesting that their holiday was being invested in "more war"
Same thing Putin's propagandists spew: that WE insist on war, as if we're all masochists longing for death and destruction, we should - of course - be wise and peace-loving and do the only sensible thing: ask Putin for a complete list of what he wants, and then give it to him without arguing - that way we'd truly have peace in our time, it's just that some of us would unfortunately have to give up their freedom and become Putin's slaves, sent to Siberia for even the slightest disapproval of the mighty overlord ruler.
She is educated in idealism. Not any practical application or history.
This guy is totally lying there is no evidence or rationale for Russia to go into the Baltic States or Poland.
It's just Western propaganda to keep the fear up and the funds flowing
@@teebodk3917 haha, yes, well said.
Is Grace for Real? It's way past April fools, but whenever she was speaking I felt like I was watching a very dry Day Today parody.
Doesn't she need to go back to secondary school and start from there; right back to zero as far as studying basic human history and human psychology?
What planet is that lady living on?
The planet LaLa.
Grace THE definition of naive.........
Hamish is 100% right. If you can't see what Putler is aiming for you need to OPEN YOUR EYES
Unfortunately he's a sensationalist. Putin has no justifiable interest in invading any NATO countries.
Wow
@@russellspeed1693 Are you talking about when russia lost half the land they held 2 years ago? Or russias navy being decimated by a country with no navy?
@@dpelpalwhilst now advancing continually.
This week an entire Ukraine brigade ran away rather than fight, Ukraine army is on its last legs and is on the verge of collapse.
@@dpelpalhow many ships did we lose during the Falkland’s war?, quite a few. Yet we beat the argies.
You might want to think about things.
the like I left for this video, was not for Grace.
Hamish is absolutely correct. We must spend on deterrents to reduce risk of war . Grace is drowning in her green policies to see the wood for the trees.
It astonishes me how naive and ignorant Grace was in this interview. Putin found new markets for his fossil fuels some time ago and Britain ‘decarbonising’ won’t have the slightest impact on anything. Grace lives in a land of make believe precisely because she has not been exposed to the brutal realities of geopolitics and life beyond the comfortable, likely privileged, liberal bubble she evidently inhabits. To utter the word ‘decarbonisation’ in response to the question ‘how are we going to deter Putin from further aggression in Europe in the next several years’ was one of the daftest things I’ve heard from an ‘expert’ in years!
Grace needs to visit Ukraine.
Or Russia. She’d be surprised about the ambulance service and hospitals.
No one should visit Ukraine, unless you're there for denazification purposes.
I just wanted to offer Grace a ticket to Ukraine…But I am afraid, she’s a coward!…She is terribly ignorant!😢😢😢
Hamish is one the best communicators in this war.
All bets are off for being carbon neutral once there’s a nuclear exchange.
Carbon neutrally through carbonisation.
Let's be thankful grace is not. in power. The naive mentality that led us in ww2. We have history to tell us how to respond
How did you get this woman from 1938 to be a guest on the show today? Political decision? The question is not WHAT TYPE of decision to go to war is. The questions is, WHO gets to make that decision. Hamish, as usual, is spot on. From Champaign, Illinois, USA.
What’s the 1938 point about?
@@SworBeyE16 Really? Look it up.
@@thattubesound2214 I’ve written papers on it. Care to elaborate the point you’re making?
Today I learned:
1) Stop being hysterical about an active genocide
2) More green energy could've avoided this
3) Whatabout the defense industry totes profiting
you have learned well grasshopper! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
4) start learning about aggresion by imperialistic states. Enough examples if you payed attention during your history lessons.
Grace is a great example of Gen Y and it doesn’t bode well for the future of the West.
It's like Grace is living on another planet. I think she should honestly declare that she doesn't fear the "Russian Mir"; that if we allow Putin to re-establish the boundaries of the USSR and its satellite countries, we should live without war. Then, just maybe, we in Western Europe might have shorter waiting lists for hospital attention, and never mind the loss of the many freedoms currently enjoyed in countries further East. That's not only unethical, it's utterly selfish.
When has Putin ever shown or declared a desire to restore the boundaries of the USSR or the Warsaw pact? Modern Russia is absolutely not the USSR, which ended over 30 years ago
@@SworBeyE16 You don't need to be a clairvoyant : it's an open secret. If he doesn't continue the war, he knows he's toast!
@@2Dylandog if genocide Joe Biden did not get the worthless USD passed to try and prolong the war until after the election then genocide Joe would be toast
@@2Dylandog Continue the Ukraine war yes. Why would he start a war with former USSR members?
@@michaelmullins3396 RUSSIAN GDP GROWING .... SMOKE & MIRRORS Russian GDP is Up as Putin is Spending the Money on Military Equipment which is Turned into Scrap Metal in Ukraine ...There is No Profit or Return on this Money and Eventually Putin will Run Out of Cash Reserves . Only UNEDUCATED Russians think that this is Good for the Russian Economy REALITY . Russian ROUBLE has Collapsed and the Cost of Imports is Up Military Sales have Collapsed , Russia Failed to Sign a Single Contract in DUBAI in November 2023 GAZPROM announced that Production has Fallen to 1970 s / USSR Levels Interest Rate at 16 Percent and Inflation Skyrocketing along with Fuel Restrictions Russian Oil Exports Down as a result of OPEC Cuts and a Price Cap of $60. and India No Longer recieving Russian Oil Recent Ukrainian Strikes on Russian Oil Refineries have Affected 15 Percent of Russian Income and most likely will Not get Western Parts to restore Refineries " Everything According to Plan " The Entire World is Laughing at the Russian LOSERS as Russia Collapses😀😀
I'm afraid the world has gone past. "Let's live in peace and harmony." You can't even leave the door of your house or car unlocked in your own neighbourhood, not to talk of your border.
So true.
This lady is living in a fantasy land…..maybe some time in North Korea would give her a better perspective on why military defense spending is vital.
Who decided to give her a voice in this? Putin?
Like it or like it not our defense is our number one priority.
Putin will not stop at Ukraine.
Apparently, Grace has never heard of peace through superior firepower.
Which Russia is doing right now. Cry about it.
@@ConnorJane Apparently you don't know what it means either.
She has no idea. She needs to learn her history. She should go to Ukraine for a year and get educated.
So Grace is talking about avoiding buying oil from Russia as being the best alternative rather than understanding that anyone can be s**t in the head just becase Putin said so... Not to mention about avoiding the direct answer to the question on to HOW to defend against someone who wants to blow your entire city just for fun... I really don't understand in what world she lives in...Just like her answer, seeing me write what she said doesn't make any sense.
Where did you find Grace? I am actually shocked at the level of her ignorance.
This woman must have slept through every one of her modern history classes in school.
The purpose of a strong defense is not to seek war but to prevent it.
The British Military has been absolutely gutted over the past 30 years to subsidize social welfare programs but none of this matters if you can’t maintain the peace. Does she think that Ukrainian social welfare program expenditures were part of Putin’s calculus when he decided to invade that country?
We can learn lessons from Ukraine, specifically that it is far more difficult to establish a military, procure hardware and supply chains after you have been invaded than it is to do so before a war. The cost to society in terms of lives lost and damage to the economy has been tragic in Ukraine.
She lives in a greenhouse between flowers.
@@tramdriver123, she seems to be about as well informed as the average plant 🪴
@toddbrackett4277 Social welfare should be scrutinised by all governments, If you cannot find a job, you do compulsory community service, or compulsory national service. Watch the decline of "dole bludgers"
I would rather say that The British Military has been absolutely gutted over the past 30 years to subsidize bank bailouts and its unnecessary Iraq war and later the cuts by David Cameron. Blair, Brown, Cameron and Osborne are to blame
@@Wer76der, whatever the defense budget has been raided for it was wrong and it needs to be reconstituted immediately. Setting a goal to reach 2.5% of GDP in 6 years is not sufficient.
Grace is getting some Russian money it seems
the cost of not going to war is higher
Hope she likes speaking Russian
I think most of the world is just laughing at what a joke the russian army is lol
@@dpelpal apart from the tens of thousands of Ukrainians who’ve been killed fighting them. You’re totally demeaning their sacrifice
@@dpelpal well they are a joke problem is they are learning and adapting!
@@dpelpal it sure is, but looking behind the laughter... why do you think Putler keeps on throwing meat in the grinder and still smiling ? don't underestimate the criminal kremlin regime !
This guy is totally lying there is no evidence or rationale for Russia to go into the Baltic States or Poland.
It's just Western propaganda to keep the fear up and the funds flowing
Needs to be more than 2.5% and now, not in 2030.
U.K. used to spend 6% of GDP 50 years ago. They've been free-riding off of U.S. defence for 30 years. No longer.
YES absolutely you have just 12 frigates the UK thats the same number as Canada !!!!! compare the Candian Navy to the UK navy from 1960-1990 the Uk would of been light years ahead in numbers and firepower !!!!!. just 6 destroyers in the Uk navy vs China now that has almost 50 and growing. Yes the US has 90 but they have not grown at all for 50 years in naval power where China is getting heaps stronger every decade .
Dangerous mix of arrogance and ignorance displayed in full by Grace, who belongs to the Jeremy Corbyn school of geopolitics. It wasn't a "fascinating" viewpoint from her, but utterly bereft of any understanding of a grown-up and carefully considered worldview. I have a question for Times Radio: who picked her for this utterly pointless interview?
Grace is out with the fairies, sorry.
Thanks, Times Radio.
The world needs to stop being dependent on oil asap. Both world wars spread to so many countries because of fights for oil.
The point is that the west must stand up to Putin.
The UK is lost listening to women like this 😢
The political system in UK is rotten 😂😂😂
Grace is your typical "activist" individual who has absolutely no idea about what she's talking about, but has a strong opinion on the matter and wants to defend it. "Decarbonization", every time I hear one of those clowns talk about decarbonization, I ask them about the myriad of industrial processes which cannot "all of a sudden" become electric, and tied to a solar panel. I ask them precisely what alternatives there are. Or more simply, air travel. Shall we stop it? Are these activists going to make electric planes that actually work ? And electric cars, do they have any clue what kinds of logistic and technological challenges companies like Tesla are facing? How about the lack of charging infrastructure? How about the fact that the same clowns were protesting nuclear power, which led Germany to shut down all of them (probably the single stupidest political act in Europe in the last 50 years, when it comes to energy). They are absolutely clueless. She thinks Putler is going to stop a massive war because he won't be able to sell oil to the West? Seriously? I think we found Napoleon reincarnate.
Grace isn’t credible for me.
She may have been right about decarbonization lessening Russia's revenue and therefore threat in the past, but the fact remains that we are we are now and Putin must be stopped, *today.*
Jesus….She hasn’t got a skooby Doo……it’s genuinely scary to listen to the naivety of her thought process
Hamish speaks with knowledge and sense. Grace hasn’t got a clue.
4% GDP UK should be on, if not more
Do you really think people are going to fight for this country after what our government has done to it. It's not England anymore.
What is she on, terrifying
Poor Grace is thinking in the past
What's the solution?
Go back in time and fix everything.
Genius.
If Grace was a solicitor and this debate when taking place in a judiciary/trial setting any decent judge would rule her arguments 'irrelevant' and to be taken of the record.
she’s wrong
She’s young, foolish and idealistic. Our freedoms have been fought for by previous generations and we are going to have to fight for them again soon I’m sorry to say.
Grace says 'we've' let them (who is 'we've' btw); but wouldn't she and those of the same views, have said exactly same10 years ago, when Putler COULD have been stopped? So when exactly were we NOT to let them?
Hamish, 1; Grace, 0
That woman has no idea what she is talking about.... The uk is spending almost nothing... during the cold war they were spending up to 10% GDP on the military , its only 2.5% now... in war time like Ukraine now it goes way up to 40%... so even if the Uk spent 3% is still hardly anything compared to what they were spending in the 60s 70s etc.... there army air force and navy is half the size of what it was in 1990 during the Gulf war...they only have 40% more ship numbers than Australia yet in 1940 that would of been 1000% more. She clearly does not understand the concept if a strong miliitary makes a country safer and saves money.... look at Poland they know what is going on and they have the best Army in NATO now not including the US, these new age art type people live in a bubble , when war comes to them they cry for there mummy or GOV and blame everyone else yet there the ones that dont like spending... we have them in AUS too the greens party... they think diplomacy can prevent war... yeah giving up half your country for free great idea NOT
I dont feel Grace has any idea. 2.5% of GDP is simply not enough, solid and bold action needs to be taken now with regards to upgrading and enhancing our military capabilities, and drip feeding the increase over 6 years is simply not recognising the threat - as Grace is clearly not also. Defence costs money, a lot of it, and the only way to beat a bully is to stand up to them, if you dont, then it wont matter how long the NHS waiting list is. Nobody wants war with Russia, but that won't stop it coming if Putin decides he wants it. Action is needed today, not in 2030
Grace needs to have a word with herself,and re educate herself
Grace's opinions betray a mental process which is much closer to zero-sum, that sum being the notion that "all we have to do is take care of home first".
Isolationism is *always* a losing strategy even as it *may* be a short-term/tactical win, ergo, why it is always a poor policy.
Putin has never said he want to take Poland, Latvia etc. that’s just false.
This Megalomaniac criminal
Yeah but Putin's days are limited
@@Amradar123we’ve heard this bs that Putins days are numbered by the west for such a long time . British politicians of all colours will come and go , but Putin will still be there. Putin is the saviour of our time.
@@Amradar123When?…Tell me the date…🙏My people are dying EVERY DAY!…And his end probably will not mean the war ends…🥲🥲🥲
Well, what, who? She belongs to a generation that never have fought for anything and thinks war is a choice.
Grace sounds like she's ready to surrender.
She should go live in ruZZia for a while.
As to waiting lists for medical care.
There's a doctor shortage.
People who used to go into medicine have many options today they didn't use to have.
They can earn a good living without being around sickly people. Nothing will change that.
Healthcare and the environment are very important subjects but they belong in a completely different argument because metaphorically speaking we have potentially a meteorite hurting towards us which needs to be addressed urgently.
I am sure there were British people who said the same thing when the German dictator was expanding Germany just before WW2 started. "We have better ways to spend our money than on the military. Have tried all the peaceful and cheaper options to avoid war? Can't we just give him Denmark and hope that is enough?". Then when the German bombers started leveling parts of London, these same people probably said, "What do you mean we don't have enough fighters to stop this?".
The only positive thing I can say about Grace's comments is that she was polite and respectful of what Hamish was saying, as was he when she responded. It is really unfortunate when you have a neighbor like Russia, but when you do, you either spend the money and effort necessary to handle Russia or Russia will spend the money and effort needed to handle you.
Why did the West give Ukraine the weapons it needed at the beginning of the war?
Grace; “ Yes yes, that’s all very well talking about history but we are missing the important thing here!. What is the correct pronoun?”
Thank you for an interesting interview.
Great to see that the UK remains a moral compass with credence,
I think most people are just laughing at the russian army and putin now😂
Which is why defence spending is rising? Thousands of people have been killed fighting the Russian army in Ukraine. Why demean them?
@@SworBeyE16 Youre right, over 350,000 russians have been demilitarized by Ukraine. And now russia has lost half the land they held 2 years ago. That aint winning😂
@@dpelpal Have they? By that logic surely Ukraine doesn’t need 10s of billions of dollars of aid, or to mobilise the majority of its adult population to fight?
@@SworBeyE16 That's how russia lost half the land they held in Ukraine 2 years ago. That's how russia has now lost nearly all their black sea fleet to a country with NO NAVY
@@dpelpal And is that also why Ukraine has lost Bakhmut and Avdiivka and now potentially Chasiv Yar? I'm pretty sure you're a bot
Grace could really benefit with a trip to Bucha and some realistic education.
Its strange that Grace repeats the pre 1st and 2D WW. Arguments so naively
Also something Grace and many other people seem to be totally ignorant of is the US and England made a Promise to Ukraine to come to their aid if attacked .. Ukraine gave up its nukes for that promise ! We owe them big time..
How much would Britain have spent to avoid WWI?
There is no way to decarbonize the world enough to replace fossil fuels. Where do you get these people?
Why have infants like this "Grace" on?
Some people think if we hold hands and sing kumbaya, little house of solar pannela and wind mills are the answer are suffering from delusions of grandeur.
The bullies only understand one thing strength.
This interview will not age well for one of these two commentators. Two years from now it will be interesting to look back.
Smartest woman. She’s Absolutely right.
He is still there!
My goodness, Grace is imbecilic. This is a very serious time, we need serious people in the room or whole countries are going to be lost.
She is a opinionated child with stunningly infantile reasoning and I find it shocking that European security and the very real threat of Russia whom are currently mauling their way through Ukraine with massive consequences are being "discussed" between her and a decorated British officer and CBRN expert. It would be like my cat discussing with me the finer points on the internet. Ridiculous!!!
It’s insulting to bring that woman to talk about this issue. Your guest was too polite by not pointing out her total ignorance
Both of these commentators are correct. The military perspective addresses the clear and present dangers in which we find ourselves. The use of alternative energy sources in developed countries should be a long term goal in degrading Putin’s industrious military complex. However dictators like Putin are opportunistic and will seize power before the long term goals of alternative energies can even be achieved.
She needs to wake up and smell the coffee, wait till the war comes to UK and wot is she gonna do? Try and tell the Russians that war is bad and we should love each other
Grace should never have been in this discussion I'm afraid. The youth have absolutely lost touch with reality. We have failed to pass on the lessons from our forebears. They are completely out of their minds. I have no doubt that if socialism and / or communism were to take hold in the Western world these muppets would be the vehicle. We've ultimately failed to guide the youth.
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What a surprise a journalist doesn’t know anything about war. I’m shocked
*BOTH MR. de BRETTON-GORDON AND GRACE ARE CORRECT* People need to ask themselves WHY, for the last 20 to 30 years, the U.K. leadership has allowed health care & other matters that directly affect the quality of life of Brits AND also allowed meaningful deterrence to Russian aggression and (more recently) support for Ukraine wither away? *DO NOT ALLOW THE GOVERNMENT TO LIMIT THE CONVERSATION TO AN "EITHER-OR"/BLACK & WHITE CONVERSATION* !!!
The health system is being destroyed by greedy doctors, suppliers and government red tape,
It also doesn't help that people aren't eating healthy, hence the chronic illness we see,
No amount of money can fix it, it needs a total rethink on how we view our own health
What's more expensive? A flat $200 billion cash infusion now or a dripfeed of double that amount over 5 years?
Take grace to the front line for a few weeks then redo the discussion.