I just performed the same install on my 2019 Ram 2500, equipped with factory rear air suspension, today. Despite what all the different manufactures say, it is compatible. The airbags raised up two inches to compensate for the additional load felt on the rear of the truck. It now has a 3/4" higher nose than the rear. Before it was a 1" rake. The reason at the end of the video you say to adjust the eccentric washers on the swing arms (BTW it corrects caster not camber. You can't adjust camber on a solid axle) is to correct two things. First the angle of the shock mount is way too vertical with the lift, and second, if you look at your springs after install, you'll see a noticeable bow. You have to "roll" the axle assembly clockwise (front the drivers side point of view) in order to put the shock mount and springs back in parallel. I ended up with the hole in the eccentric washer pointing at 3 o'clock (driver's) and 9 o'clock passenger side. It's really not the ideal solution as caster will certainly change, however there's no other alternative. Unless you want your springs to operate in a bad rate. The truck still tracks straight with no loss of road feel or drift, so caster isn't affected very much. Don't fall into the trap with "oh you better get a new adjustable track bar or your axle will be off-center". So do the math.. Center to center on the arm is 39". Draw a straight line 39" long. Make a perpendicular line 3" at the end of the 39" mark. Take a tape measure and put one end of the left side and move it in an arc 2.5" up on the perpendicular line. It moves a horrendous 1/16" of an inch. Stick with the stock track bar, unless you like wasting $300. Nice truck BTW.
This video was spot on. Thank you so much for making our installation A breeze. We secured a set of 6 ton jackstands before the installation so we did not need to use any cribbing. It gave our truck a very secure platform to work with.
Man reading these comments remind me of video game trolls...I'm putting 20x10 xd tensions with -18 offset and 35/12.5/20 nitto terra g2 on my 19 3500 and trust me after cost of those lift kit ain't happening and spacer level kit will be installed. You snooty bums who got 5k to drop on the perfect suspension after buying a $75k truck and put nice rubber on it, do us all favor go.make yourself a video to watch n critique while this man u keep doggin on the right way is actually helping out people who as well bought a spacer kit and don't have bottomless pockets. I want nice things but damn I don't live off no trust fund with 4 kids a wife and a mortgage. Ya'll should just be thanking this.man for his work and dedication to get this instructional video out of installing a specific type of product the right way. I will be watching this 10x before my install to get it down n locked in on what to do without paying some panzee mechanic an arm n leg to do something simple. Thank you for this video it was very helpful to me for what I have and am doing.
I installed the rough country 2.5 yesterday. I had to cut off the rubber tab on the rubber spacer for the passenger side. Also, the shock extenders were both too narrow to receive the shocks. I had to take two metal rods and bend the ears out. My advice to others is, marc the positions of your springs and put them back exactly where they were regardless what the instructions say. at the end of 4 hours, looks really good.
I’ll be installing this exact same leveling kit on my 2020 Ram 2500 Big Horn tomorrow. Just curious what your alignment guy had to say regarding the cam adjustment. Also a little off topic, but my buddy had a set of Chevy 8 lug custom 20’s off his 2018 Chevy that I would like to put on my Ram. I can easily test fit them while I have it jacked up, but just curious if you know if they will fit or not before I spend the time picking them up.
Jesse Black very cool hope the video helped for your install! And the cam adjustment didn’t have to be moved it was still in spec but I did need it aligned. And his wheels won’t fit because gm in 2011 changed bolt pattern to 8x180 and yours is 8x6.5
great job showing what should be done just one thing the adjustments that you are calling camber adjustment is actually for the caster, straight axle ram does not have a cam adjuster for the camber. no worries it can be confusing
If you have to put blocks under the jack stands please make them wider than the legs on the stand and use one block not a block with a 2x4 on top! Ever heard the term "squished like a bug"?
Did this level the front with the rear or is the front slightly higher than the rear now? I ordered the carli 2.5” front coil springs with fox 2.0 shocks, just trying to figure out if the front will be higher than the rear with the 2.5” level
i have tis wheels that are 22x12 with -44 offset and 33 inch tires on a ram 2500. it’s stock suspension but i’m trying to eliminate the rub. any recommendations on how much of a lift or level it will take?
Aftermarket coils are a better way to go for lift than spacers. I know It’s economical to go the spacer route, but buy once...cry once with quality on these expensive trucks. Thuren 2” or 2.75” coils would have been the better choice along with a trac bar and shocks for the actual travel.
James Miller I would agree that full aftermarket coils ride a little better but the price difference is a lot. And especially when you run 20x12 wheels or bigger I think the ride quality is going to go down no matter what. But also I’m putting a bigger lift on the truck come spring time
I have a RAM 3500 & 2500 ---Springs are always a better way to go to level your truck! Remember this, with Blocks your axle can only have so much travel, at least when you do springs the axle can travel normally.. BTW, springs are about $200 so not that expensive to do it right.. Anything higher than a 2" lift is a waste.. You want road queen or do you buy a truck for its real purpose? I have a Military 5 Ton, its high,,my 2500/3500 are not, they are REAL work trucks..
Gorgon Bazil the carli cool kit was $1000. Like I said I’m putting a big lift on my truck this was just temporary for now. And with running 22s and 24s that are 12 and 14 wide ride quality goes down period. Mines not a work truck and I’ve stated that. It’s for show and driving on pavement lol
Looks great! What wheels and tires are you running? Brand, size etc. I have the same Ram with a BDS suspension level and can’t decide a wheel and tire combo. Yours looks tough as nails 👍🏻
I'm running 35s on mine with a -12 offset and they rub. I'm gonna run a Carli kit when I can afford it but I think i'm gonna run these until I can afford a Carli kit. Looks good man.
Keep up the wonderful work brother! Looks great I have a 19 myself, random question and it has nothing to do with the rig. What size is your shop? And is it a prebuilt? Reason I ask is I’m looking at putting a shop on my property. Getting some insight I like how yours is setup. Hah thanks brother, stay safe! 🇨🇦
Still not the right way to do a lift on a coil spring front end. You have now rolled your axle, and shifted it to the driver side without longer radius arms or drop brackets, as well as pan hard bar. See how your sponge look all funky? Gonna stay like that until you do it the RIGHT way.
This is definitely not the right way. I want with a Carli 3.25" level kit for my 2020 Ram 2500 Limited Mega Cab. Dealership said they would not honor the warranty if I used spacers. They put it in writing for me, that if I get an actual full Carli level kit with replacement springs and shocks, they would honor my warranty. Also it is worth it to me to actually improve the ride quality.
Sorry, using blocks to level is not "The Right" way.. You should be installing full length springs and full length shocks--thats the correct way. You should change the name of this video to "Leveling your truck on a budget"
Gorgon Bazil a leveling kit is a spacer that goes on top of the springs. Bigger springs and shocks isn’t a leveling kit thanks tho. It would be called leveling my truck with springs....not kit. Hence why my title is kit.
@@YamRida468 I will let all those manufacturers know that "You" said they are wrong.. BTW, Blocks are NOT the right way.. What do I know? I guess all those trucks I have owned, raced etc. not counting the ones I restored seem to count with you 'Younger" people..
Gorgon Bazil yes springs and shocks can level your truck 100% and they ride better yes. Google leveling kit or even on eBay and tell me what come up. It’s these leveling pucks. I said in my video full shocks and springs ride better but I’m putting the truck on a big Lift after winter and didn’t wanna waste my money on that. Thanks for your input tho. Oh and I’m 29. And have had/built over 100 trucks but what do I know. Also had a 10 second street truck that was diesel. But this has nothing to do with that but you wanted to point out what you’ve done or built. Congrats man!
The title should read INSTALLING A LEVELING KIT CHEAP AND UNSAFE WAY. Those spacers are a total cobb job. Never do that to a new truck or really any truck.
I’m sorry the title of your video says leveling your Ram the right way, I really thought you was going to do a proper leveling kit like Carli or thuran, so do you bought the truck for $50-$60,000, So you thought it would be a good idea to install some leveling pucks and shock extensions that is the worst we can level a truck, it probably cost couple hundred dollars, I would’ve save my money and bought a wheel suspension system that’s going to enhance the right quality not make it worse, I couldn’t even make it through the video sorry I’m only saying this because I have around 2500 and I’m saving my money to get the Carli 2.5 pin top 3 inch kit with the adjustable track bar and I will also be buying the sway bar and the radius arms to give it the best ride quality I can get out of a three-quarter ton truck. In my opinion that’s the best way to level a truck, but that’s just my opinion. My truck was expensive and I want the best suspension I can put on it.
Karl Thomas it was an install video for leveling pucks....also in my video i state I’m putting this kit on because I’m putting a big lift on it over winter so buying the Carli was a waste of money. Luckily my truck still rides great. This is isn’t my work truck or daily driver. Truck was $72,000 but yeah. And you would hate my 24x14 forged wheels on it now. But luckily it’s my truck 🤷🏼♂️ thanks for the view and the comment
Came here looking for the "Right way." More like NO WAY. I can critique a # of things but first and foremost, your harborFrieght cheapy jacks that you are using as frame jacks are WAY wrong!. And to have them sitting on wood blocks that are BARELY wide enough to accomodate them? I was paying way more attn waiting for your truck to fall over. PLEASE DONT DO THAT AGAIN!. Get some real frame jacks. And if they don't reach, well they aren't the right ones. Stay away from HF to. They will split right down the middle and you will DIE. Lastly, a spacer lift is NOT the right way. It's the cheap and easy way.
How in the world is this right right way? I've never seen the 'right way' including a 2-ton jackstand on top of wooden blocks. You're lucky this didn't fall and you are giving the rest of the half-wits a bad idea on what to do.
@@YamRida468 I have a 2019 Ram 2500 also. I was just wondering if you can use the lower control arm where it connects to front axle to jack up the truck?
I just performed the same install on my 2019 Ram 2500, equipped with factory rear air suspension, today. Despite what all the different manufactures say, it is compatible. The airbags raised up two inches to compensate for the additional load felt on the rear of the truck. It now has a 3/4" higher nose than the rear. Before it was a 1" rake. The reason at the end of the video you say to adjust the eccentric washers on the swing arms (BTW it corrects caster not camber. You can't adjust camber on a solid axle) is to correct two things. First the angle of the shock mount is way too vertical with the lift, and second, if you look at your springs after install, you'll see a noticeable bow. You have to "roll" the axle assembly clockwise (front the drivers side point of view) in order to put the shock mount and springs back in parallel. I ended up with the hole in the eccentric washer pointing at 3 o'clock (driver's) and 9 o'clock passenger side. It's really not the ideal solution as caster will certainly change, however there's no other alternative. Unless you want your springs to operate in a bad rate. The truck still tracks straight with no loss of road feel or drift, so caster isn't affected very much. Don't fall into the trap with "oh you better get a new adjustable track bar or your axle will be off-center". So do the math.. Center to center on the arm is 39". Draw a straight line 39" long. Make a perpendicular line 3" at the end of the 39" mark. Take a tape measure and put one end of the left side and move it in an arc 2.5" up on the perpendicular line. It moves a horrendous 1/16" of an inch. Stick with the stock track bar, unless you like wasting $300. Nice truck BTW.
Dave Zaino great explanation! And thank you!
@@YamRida468 video on this any where for a visual compasion??
This video was spot on. Thank you so much for making our installation A breeze. We secured a set of 6 ton jackstands before the installation so we did not need to use any cribbing. It gave our truck a very secure platform to work with.
No problem!
Man reading these comments remind me of video game trolls...I'm putting 20x10 xd tensions with -18 offset and 35/12.5/20 nitto terra g2 on my 19 3500 and trust me after cost of those lift kit ain't happening and spacer level kit will be installed. You snooty bums who got 5k to drop on the perfect suspension after buying a $75k truck and put nice rubber on it, do us all favor go.make yourself a video to watch n critique while this man u keep doggin on the right way is actually helping out people who as well bought a spacer kit and don't have bottomless pockets. I want nice things but damn I don't live off no trust fund with 4 kids a wife and a mortgage. Ya'll should just be thanking this.man for his work and dedication to get this instructional video out of installing a specific type of product the right way. I will be watching this 10x before my install to get it down n locked in on what to do without paying some panzee mechanic an arm n leg to do something simple. Thank you for this video it was very helpful to me for what I have and am doing.
Thank you very much! Appreciate that some people just don’t get it 🤷🏼♂️ but glad I could help! Good luck on the install too!
I installed the rough country 2.5 yesterday. I had to cut off the rubber tab on the rubber spacer for the passenger side. Also, the shock extenders were both too narrow to receive the shocks. I had to take two metal rods and bend the ears out. My advice to others is, marc the positions of your springs and put them back exactly where they were regardless what the instructions say. at the end of 4 hours, looks really good.
I’ll be installing this exact same leveling kit on my 2020 Ram 2500 Big Horn tomorrow. Just curious what your alignment guy had to say regarding the cam adjustment. Also a little off topic, but my buddy had a set of Chevy 8 lug custom 20’s off his 2018 Chevy that I would like to put on my Ram. I can easily test fit them while I have it jacked up, but just curious if you know if they will fit or not before I spend the time picking them up.
Jesse Black very cool hope the video helped for your install! And the cam adjustment didn’t have to be moved it was still in spec but I did need it aligned. And his wheels won’t fit because gm in 2011 changed bolt pattern to 8x180 and yours is 8x6.5
great job showing what should be done just one thing the adjustments that you are calling camber adjustment is actually for the caster, straight axle ram does not have a cam adjuster for the camber. no worries it can be confusing
Add the air lift suspension on the back. Will raise it up to where you think you want it. Amd avoid squatting
If you have to put blocks under the jack stands please make them wider than the legs on the stand and use one block not a block with a 2x4 on top! Ever heard the term "squished like a bug"?
Excellent video, but I didn't see anyone mention adjusting the headlights after doing this.
Did this level the front with the rear or is the front slightly higher than the rear now? I ordered the carli 2.5” front coil springs with fox 2.0 shocks, just trying to figure out if the front will be higher than the rear with the 2.5” level
i have tis wheels that are 22x12 with -44 offset and 33 inch tires on a ram 2500. it’s stock suspension but i’m trying to eliminate the rub. any recommendations on how much of a lift or level it will take?
Aftermarket coils are a better way to go for lift than spacers. I know It’s economical to go the spacer route, but buy once...cry once with quality on these expensive trucks. Thuren 2” or 2.75” coils would have been the better choice along with a trac bar and shocks for the actual travel.
James Miller I would agree that full aftermarket coils ride a little better but the price difference is a lot. And especially when you run 20x12 wheels or bigger I think the ride quality is going to go down no matter what. But also I’m putting a bigger lift on the truck come spring time
I have a RAM 3500 & 2500 ---Springs are always a better way to go to level your truck! Remember this, with Blocks your axle can only have so much travel, at least when you do springs the axle can travel normally.. BTW, springs are about $200 so not that expensive to do it right.. Anything higher than a 2" lift is a waste.. You want road queen or do you buy a truck for its real purpose? I have a Military 5 Ton, its high,,my 2500/3500 are not, they are REAL work trucks..
Gorgon Bazil the carli cool kit was $1000. Like I said I’m putting a big lift on my truck this was just temporary for now. And with running 22s and 24s that are 12 and 14 wide ride quality goes down period. Mines not a work truck and I’ve stated that. It’s for show and driving on pavement lol
Great vid. Out of curiosity can you give me specs on your shop? Looks awesome
Looks great! What wheels and tires are you running? Brand, size etc. I have the same Ram with a BDS suspension level and can’t decide a wheel and tire combo. Yours looks tough as nails 👍🏻
CB6JB12 thanks man I really appreciate that! 22x12 fuel Mavericks on 305/45/22 Nexen all terrain
Have you had any issue with knocking noises or any noises at all
How’s it been driving ?
Thinking about going with the same set up.
Alex Medina great! No complaints
How much did this actually lift the front end? Looking to do the same but worried it won’t fit in my garage after.
I'm running 35s on mine with a -12 offset and they rub. I'm gonna run a Carli kit when I can afford it but I think i'm gonna run these until I can afford a Carli kit. Looks good man.
Aaron Kershaw yeah that’s a nice kit! And thanks man!
Keep up the wonderful work brother! Looks great I have a 19 myself, random question and it has nothing to do with the rig. What size is your shop? And is it a prebuilt? Reason I ask is I’m looking at putting a shop on my property. Getting some insight I like how yours is setup. Hah thanks brother, stay safe! 🇨🇦
Thanks man! And it’s 24x25 and yeah I ordered it and got to spec it out. My channel has a full review on it
Excellent, thanks brother! Enjoy the rig, and be safe!!!
Spit on an escalade you can fit it in the damn closet Lmfao.. yea I caught that .. love this truck.. I miss my white truck so dang much..
I’m tight to get into my garage as is. Do you know if the top / back of it went up or just the front part of the top raised 2 1/2”?
I’m sure it went up a little
I’m having a hard time finding wheel spacers... where did you purchase yours? Please advise... thank you
No spacers on mine
I bought mine from up your ass, cowboy.
Does it sit a little higher in the front than the back? That is always my concern with the leveling kits.
In just bought a 2020 Ram 2500 .I noticed that even going over a speed bump it bottoms out .Will this give it more travel?
No you would need to do a Thuren or Carli leveling kit you add more travel
Looks great. How bad do you think 14 wides on 33s would rub?
Jake T not to horrible I don’t think
I’ve got a 19’ 2500 with 22x12 -51 and i can’t turn full lock without it hitting the pinch welds. Tires are 33x12 incase that helps, stock suspension
Why did you have to drill hole in shock extension?
Just unbolt sway bar from frame swings down out the way 🤤
How innovative, I'll try it
How bad did you rub after level?
Does a level void factory warranty
Can you fit 35inch tires with out a leveling kit?
Depends on wheel
Love truck what's the overall height to shark fin after lift?? What size garage door is that
Tony thank you! And that’s a great question haha I haven’t measured that but my door is 8ft tall. I’m sure it’s right around the 7ft mark
If u don't mind can u measure my garage door is 7 and want to do lift but wanna keep it inside. Lol
Tony yeah I can do that give me a day
Tony it’s 82” so it’s right under 7ft. So 6ft 10”
Thank you
Does it sit higher in the front with the 2.5 inch lift?
No it sits pretty level
The “right way” is to get new springs...not spacers. That’s the “cheap way”.
bfd dude
@@mikegrazio5376 If he's going to say it's the "right way", maybe it should be...
Does this kit make the front end look higher then the rear end
Raises front
can you give me the link where you purchase?
guil Mondragon liftkits4less.com
Thanks, this video was a great drinking game
Any torque specs?
3 ugga Duggas hahaha sorry I don’t know the specs
Still not the right way to do a lift on a coil spring front end. You have now rolled your axle, and shifted it to the driver side without longer radius arms or drop brackets, as well as pan hard bar. See how your sponge look all funky? Gonna stay like that until you do it the RIGHT way.
Thanks
Which kit fixes all of what you said
This is definitely not the right way. I want with a Carli 3.25" level kit for my 2020 Ram 2500 Limited Mega Cab. Dealership said they would not honor the warranty if I used spacers. They put it in writing for me, that if I get an actual full Carli level kit with replacement springs and shocks, they would honor my warranty. Also it is worth it to me to actually improve the ride quality.
Must not of watched the video..
That’s what she said 13:57
Sorry, using blocks to level is not "The Right" way.. You should be installing full length springs and full length shocks--thats the correct way. You should change the name of this video to "Leveling your truck on a budget"
Gorgon Bazil a leveling kit is a spacer that goes on top of the springs. Bigger springs and shocks isn’t a leveling kit thanks tho. It would be called leveling my truck with springs....not kit. Hence why my title is kit.
@@YamRida468 I will let all those manufacturers know that "You" said they are wrong.. BTW, Blocks are NOT the right way.. What do I know? I guess all those trucks I have owned, raced etc. not counting the ones I restored seem to count with you 'Younger" people..
Gorgon Bazil yes springs and shocks can level your truck 100% and they ride better yes. Google leveling kit or even on eBay and tell me what come up. It’s these leveling pucks. I said in my video full shocks and springs ride better but I’m putting the truck on a big Lift after winter and didn’t wanna waste my money on that. Thanks for your input tho. Oh and I’m 29. And have had/built over 100 trucks but what do I know. Also had a 10 second street truck that was diesel. But this has nothing to do with that but you wanted to point out what you’ve done or built. Congrats man!
Immmmm uhhhhhhhhh
The title should read INSTALLING A LEVELING KIT CHEAP AND UNSAFE WAY. Those spacers are a total cobb job. Never do that to a new truck or really any truck.
I’m sorry the title of your video says leveling your Ram the right way, I really thought you was going to do a proper leveling kit like Carli or thuran, so do you bought the truck for $50-$60,000, So you thought it would be a good idea to install some leveling pucks and shock extensions that is the worst we can level a truck, it probably cost couple hundred dollars, I would’ve save my money and bought a wheel suspension system that’s going to enhance the right quality not make it worse, I couldn’t even make it through the video sorry I’m only saying this because I have around 2500 and I’m saving my money to get the Carli 2.5 pin top 3 inch kit with the adjustable track bar and I will also be buying the sway bar and the radius arms to give it the best ride quality I can get out of a three-quarter ton truck. In my opinion that’s the best way to level a truck, but that’s just my opinion. My truck was expensive and I want the best suspension I can put on it.
Karl Thomas it was an install video for leveling pucks....also in my video i state I’m putting this kit on because I’m putting a big lift on it over winter so buying the Carli was a waste of money. Luckily my truck still rides great. This is isn’t my work truck or daily driver. Truck was $72,000 but yeah. And you would hate my 24x14 forged wheels on it now. But luckily it’s my truck 🤷🏼♂️ thanks for the view and the comment
Always that one dick head! Move on and watch something else fucker!
Uuuuhhh. And uhhhhh
the wrong way.
Maui Kawi right way***
Came here looking for the "Right way." More like NO WAY. I can critique a # of things but first and foremost, your harborFrieght cheapy jacks that you are using as frame jacks are WAY wrong!. And to have them sitting on wood blocks that are BARELY wide enough to accomodate them? I was paying way more attn waiting for your truck to fall over. PLEASE DONT DO THAT AGAIN!. Get some real frame jacks. And if they don't reach, well they aren't the right ones. Stay away from HF to. They will split right down the middle and you will DIE. Lastly, a spacer lift is NOT the right way. It's the cheap and easy way.
How in the world is this right right way? I've never seen the 'right way' including a 2-ton jackstand on top of wooden blocks. You're lucky this didn't fall and you are giving the rest of the half-wits a bad idea on what to do.
Is it safe to jack up under control arm?
Is it safe to jack up under control arm?
@@ken3681 I’m
Not liable for how you jack up your truck so I’m not really sure
@@YamRida468 I have a 2019 Ram 2500 also. I was just wondering if you can use the lower control arm where it connects to front axle to jack up the truck?
@@ken3681 I do but not telling you where to for liability reasons