Full Body Tracking For ANY Headset - Vive Ultimate Tracker Review
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2024
- I've spent the last 6 months with the VIVE Ultimate Trackers. They need a lot of work, but they also have limitless potential.
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Silly goofy me! I forgot to mention battery life. The battery on these consistently outlasts my Quest 3/session playtime. I tend to get around 7-8 hours on each tracker
OwO that's a lotta time
I bought these and returned them after learning about the consistent problems and the difficult setup process. Plus i didnt want to do the whole figure 8 thing every time my tracking breaks
How long ago was this?
Wow, really cool! I'll wait, though. I value consistency in my products very highly, and while 600 is accessible it's also absolutely nothing to scoff at.
the riv suit lurking in the backhround:
also ty for the heart :D
Hi, overall a great review, just a few points:
- having to re-do calibration : that is probably from the Quest headset re-making its own playspace, therefore it is a new playspace that needs to be calibrated again. I keep the same calibration for months
- "facing your computer" : it does not need to be your computer, but "the front of your playspace", as in "where you would be looking the most when you are playing". Same thing when you start mapping, it does not need to aim at your physical computer
Big Reason why I'm keep avoiding this Vive Ultimate Tracker, even i like it, but not now, waiting for more update, thank you so much for making this great information real use, i really appreciate it so much!
Awesome video and info. Thanks, ill consider them in the future.
I got them about two months ago. I have a really small play area and they tend to work really well most of the time, though I have noticed some jittering if they can't see much color. One way I've heard to get around these tracking issues is to have things like art pieces hung up on the wall, which may be a little annoying if you have just a blank room, but for me I have enough stuff and I already make art anyway so I can just use that to work around these issues. My initial setup wasn't too bad either, and these do work exceptionally well once it's all good. I still have yet to figure out how to fix one issue though, and that comes from sitting down so the trackers on my feet only mostly see my white ceiling. When this happens they sometimes lose tracking.
Also for the calibration figure 8, I just do it once at the beginning and only with a single tracker before even putting them on my body. Never needed to recalibrate during a session.
I've been looking all over for a review of these trackers when I found out the release of them. I've been super hesitant of getting it cause of the price and the quality since I use a quest 2 with HaritoraX full body. This really shined on the issues that will be apparent and I really appreciate it!
OMG SO EXCITED
That's fascinating
Thanks for sharing this. Still gonna wear my 12 slimeVR and press a button every now and then to yaw reset my drift. But one day I will jump to something elese. The price for these atm are just to high and the beta... ( Pico 4 user and jump around A LOT)
I'm having a really hard time finding an answer for this, but does the Track ultimate kit come with the straps? they don't show up in bundle info and they aren't on the site.
Ivy... do I need to remind that using figure 8 to give exact distance and bearing is the bread of butter of bees?
So my conclusion is that they have to work a bit more on the tracking software in poor lighting condition and adjust the calibration process to be more precise.
i have been heavily considering these as they sound like the exact middle ground between slime/mocopi and lighthouse tracking
i personally do not wish to go through spending 1k on lighthouse tracking and neither do i think i would bother with slime/mocopi as they also require a lot of messing around to work
any idea how these hold up against slime/mocopi in terms of trickyness to use?
The Vive Utlimate trackers have the main problem that they dont like Cold White light at least for me. If I use Warm White light everything is running very good but if i switch to Cold White light it gets a lot worse. And a little Tipp if you want to have good Tracking with these you should use standable full body estimation so you can use Mixed tracking its very good. Yea I undestand that making your first maps can be very annoying but its worth it overall. (at least for me :] )
Your electric pannel seems to be a commander. If it is, i would recommend looking it up. They sometimes get caught on fire. If you have the possibility, i would recommend a square D or siemens. Thanks for the video brotha!!
Vive/Steam lighthouse tracking is technically inside-out too since devices track themselves. The only outside-in tracking systems are original Oculus and PSVR.
how do you use the light houses for FTB?? ive been searching for a way today that forever
Do they function on infra red? Sometimes the quest will do the same for me in my room, yet when my housemates light candles in the hallway my quest practically never complains about it. I don't suggest candles but maybe something can help relating to that?
Wouldnt continuous calibration work if you bought 4 of the trackers and attached one of them to the headset? This would negate the need for figure 8's, though that's presuming the tracking quality is good enough to begin with.
See i live in an apartment and i really dont want to deal with the whole messy set up for 3.0 trackers so when i first saw these i got all excited and planned to get them but the reviews…. The amount of issues it has😭 i have never had fbt before and these seemed worth it till now. I just dont want to deal with buying all the extra things needed for the 3.0 trackers (base stations, base mounts, straps, etc). But that may be my only choice
Im looking for a semi pro solution for FBT with like 9 or 10 trackers and they look nice but dont know if I should go for this or the Trackers 3.0 with basestations 2.0
i love how ivysaid "make sure to leave a dislike" :D
not
' make sure to like and subscribe' 🤓
I can’t stop listening to DATA_REJECT
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Oh so they now work on every headset not just vive focus 3 and vive de elite
I didn't know this guy had a main channel. Just listened to his music lol
Super paper mario music, les gooo
Real
Does it work w quest 2
I dont have any of these problems people are so called having with the trackers and i even have a ir flashlight that helps the cameras have a brighter room and ao i cam use my quest headset and vive trackers at night in the dark and it works amazing.
hi do they need steam base station??
WAIT THIS IS IVY?!?!?!?
Yeah, there needs to be a better way to calibrate, other than the figure-8 with Open VR Space Calibrator. It's a total pain, every single time, even with Vive 3.0's. And even when you spend all that time calibrating and setting up, like you mentioned, then don't even align correctly in virtual space. They are almost always off by like 6 inches. It's infuriating and on top of that, they drift throughout a session and your avi body bends in half and flies away, constantly with this whole whiplash/ rubber band-type motion. Vive needs to finally integrate native software for Quest systems 2 and 3. I've had FBT for like 2 years and I never use it, because it's so jank. Also, when you put the controllers down by the waist tracker it causes your avi to totally spazz out. It's not worth the hassle most of the time. I'll wait until they fully support these and get everything ironed out.
I absolutely LOVE the idea to get one of my own but besides the horriblely expensive price, i need to get a much better pc first.
I have a gaming laptop, 40gb 3200mhz ram, 11th gen i7 and rtx 3050 ti laptop gpu. Its good dont get me wrong, im hella proud of it being my first self bought pc but, i have to optimize my pc perfectly for simi decent vr proformance on my quest 2 lol. So i should get a better pc first.
Tis it twas expensive 3:
To Aid with tracking, could you not just paint like a 2 ft tall stripe of purple and gray diamonds around the room?
IFFFFF you get them to work they work really well. BUTTTTTT getting them to work is incredibly frustrating
Had to return them sadly😢 Tracking was awfull at many sessions. The setup is really not that great eather. They need to put alot of work into it and maybe I will rebuy it when everthing got fixed.
Why not 2 SteamVR 2.0 base stations and 3 Vive 2.0 or Tundra pucks for the same cost? You’d still do figure eights but never lose tracking as long as your play area is clear of occlusions.
I have that setup but I’m planning on switching to ultimate trackers due to less occlusion and I just don’t want base stations if I don’t absolutely need them I think they are old technology and will become irrelevant eventually.
As someone who lives in a rented apartment, part of my lease says I can't mount things to the walls with screws (I have since broken this for my Sonu Elite Pulse headset mount), but for situations like that, where you can't use base stations, this would be your only option that isn't IMU based trackers.
Il va dans la matrixe
2:52 "Once per session"
...That alone is too much. I'd prefer 'once and you're done' (aka the tracking data is saved).
Doing the dumb figure 8, every time I wish to play VRChat, feels stupid. And what if the program crashes? It'll likely be seen as another session.
Hard pass, Vive.
I didn't didn't like the video, so I didn't leave a dislike, obviously x3
I like these (I also kinda like the whole "hackyness" about them), but I can't afford them sadly
Hi ivy
So... "Not yet."
Maybe a year later i guess.
Hi
Do you need a 4th one for the playspace calibration if you have a quest?
did you not watch the video
This will definitely cost a bajillion dollara
The 3 pack costed 600
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yea if you're looking to get into the tracking game, or upgrade to ultimate trackers, don't. They're by far the WORST trackers iv ever used, and for 600 dollars you can just get tundra's or the vive 3.0's with base stations included and get the same or even better tracking quality. I don't know who is setting the prices over there but they need to be fired, genuinely. Basic movement with the ultimate's seem like a task, if you move in the wrong way say goodbye to the tracking, it get's considerably worse at night time too, honestly feels like IMU'S using them.
So if you want FBT, I strongly suggest tundra's or vive 3.0s, easy to set up, reliable and is what most "VR enthusiasts" use across the board, don't waste your time and money on ultimate's.
"the best trackers on the market rn!" *lists a ton of issues*
This is the state of VR overall right now.
I stand by that these are the best **when they work.** They often don't. The tracking quality is phenomenal but they're held back severely by the fact that the VR ecosystem is disjointed
Rainworld.
These were the biggest waste of money I've ever spent my cash on. Get yourself some slime VR trackers. They work amazing and are far simpler to use.
Brightness is to low? Light the cameras, not the room) blind these duckers)))
Hit the gym get off the games 😂
useless