HISUIAN ZOROARK Could Be A Great Lead! | Pokemon Competitive Analysis

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  • @icebeam4642
    @icebeam4642 2 роки тому +154

    Zoroark actually does get Focus Blast in its Unovan form, which OHKO's specially defensive Incineroar at +2, provided it hits of course

  • @arlen7726
    @arlen7726 2 роки тому +91

    Additional fun fact, Fake out isn’t the only priority move Zoroark can be bait for: Shadow Sneak, Mach Punch, Extremespeed, I know I’m forgetting one… but yeah, Hisuian Zoroark is the perfect bait for a ton of different Priority moves because a large number of them are either Ghost, Normal, or Fighting-type moves.

    • @JoeThomas-lu6fy
      @JoeThomas-lu6fy 2 роки тому +8

      Vacuum wave?

    • @arlen7726
      @arlen7726 2 роки тому +11

      @@JoeThomas-lu6fy yep, that’d be it. Don’t see Vacuum wave all that often, but I’ve definitely seen people running it on Lucario and Blaziken at the very least.

    • @JoeSmith-xp5ll
      @JoeSmith-xp5ll 2 роки тому +6

      @@arlen7726 Special Focus Sash Lucario will run Flash Cannon/Aura Sphere/Nasty Plot/Vacuum Wave a lot, that tends to be where you see it.

    • @kirbmaster9405
      @kirbmaster9405 2 роки тому +2

      and quick attack

    • @ryanwagner3890
      @ryanwagner3890 2 роки тому

      Yeah the only really big one you have to watch out for is sucker punch.

  • @arlen7726
    @arlen7726 2 роки тому +74

    Hisuian Zoroark is downright insane in terms of how good it is!
    Triple immunities, massive Speed and Sp.Attack, and a signature move that inflicts the new version of the freeze status that’s a special-attacking version of burn, this thing definitely lives up to being a scary little ball of pure undead hate.

  • @goGothitaLOL
    @goGothitaLOL 2 роки тому +56

    Speaking of Aura Sphere, they actually gave Gardevoir not only Aura Sphere but also Recover and Ice Beam
    just in Legends Arceus for now

    • @hexbug101
      @hexbug101 2 роки тому +6

      While it’s more useful in singles empoleon is finally getting roost, this thing is finally becoming the bulky support mon it’s typing destined it to be

  • @saintlaurentbonbon7974
    @saintlaurentbonbon7974 2 роки тому +11

    this will be the most 3D chess Pokémon

    • @arlen7726
      @arlen7726 2 роки тому +3

      It’s also going to be the bane of so many low-ladder showdown players who prefer to avoid thinking while playing and get annoyed when they’re forced to. If Hisuian Zoroark becomes common enough I guarantee you’ll be seeing fewer people running Pokémon whose most common sets rely heavily on normal or fighting-type priority moves, because holy crap is this thing the perfect bait for those moves.

  • @PoorPlyser
    @PoorPlyser 2 роки тому +5

    As a mexican, I can relate to the Telemundo Univision.

  • @phatnana2379
    @phatnana2379 2 роки тому +20

    Poor Zoroark... It's Illusion Ability seemed so broken when we first heard of it in Gen-5... HOWEVER... Then we turned on our games, slapped it on our teams and saw the brand new (at the time) TEAM PREVIEW mechanic!! HAHAHA Game Freak created Zoroark's ability and knew that it would be way too crazy without being able to know, definitively, it was even on the team

    • @midnightbat344
      @midnightbat344 Рік тому +2

      Imagine hisuian zoroark and zoroark put in same team

  • @gerardomiranda7383
    @gerardomiranda7383 2 роки тому +15

    I can’t wait to see Hisuian Lilligant when that vid drops

    • @thethunderchieftain5464
      @thethunderchieftain5464 2 роки тому +1

      Oh,yeah,I can't wait to see Hisuian Liligant get downed by Aerial Ace in one hit,woohoo!!

  • @Prince_Spoopy
    @Prince_Spoopy 2 роки тому +30

    I love Hisuian Zoroark! currently hunting for a shiny one. I think its typing is soo cool!

    • @arlen7726
      @arlen7726 2 роки тому +5

      Pulling the good old Triple-immunities-no-4x-weaknesses Ghost type with Zoroark of all things is definitely insanely cool

  • @CausticFoil
    @CausticFoil 2 роки тому +5

    Honestly, just the power to have a disguised Pokémon suddenly throw out a STAB 125 SpA Hyper Beam is gonna cause mind games on its own.

  • @sicarius4749
    @sicarius4749 2 роки тому +11

    I did some damage calcs for a bulky Assault Vest H!Zoroark that avoids OHKO from most important benchmarks, Max HP, 84 Def, 72 SpD, 100 Spe with Shadow Ball, Protect, Snarl, and Counter. Bulky Incineroar always fails to ohko, and max Attack only kills with a dark-type move. Dynamax Thunderous fails to ohko with either STAB move. Kyogre without Dynamax will fail to KO at -1, and at least 100 evs in speed means you always outspeed to hit a Snarl. And every other special attacker without some damage multiplier (weather / terrain / specs) only deals around 1/3 damage, then gets Snarl'd.
    Now, why a bulky set? Because normal Zoroark gets Counter as an egg move. If a physical attacker hits Zoroark, they could just instantly die. Having an option on your team slot to turn something that's normally a free KO into a 50/50, without ever needing bring it into the game, is super threatening. Now, your Whimsicott may get hit with a Darkest Lariat instead of Fake Out or Flare Blitz.

    • @AshenDust_
      @AshenDust_ 2 роки тому +8

      Dang bro that Assault Vest Protect set looks fire

    • @TheOnlyBlaze87
      @TheOnlyBlaze87 2 роки тому

      What's the type

  • @samuunpocoloco
    @samuunpocoloco Рік тому +1

    Everyone: it has no weaknesses
    Bite and crunch: am I a joke to you?

  • @Zaileir
    @Zaileir 2 роки тому +8

    I mentioned this on another vgc video, but I think that if it gets even half of the support moves that normal zoroark has, then H-zoroark has the potential to be a great debuffing/status offensive support. It could potentially serve a role similar to Eleki on certain teams, utilizing it's fake out immunity to provide immediate pressure, especially against mons that may be trying to set up like a trick room foe example. It has a lot of potential, but it and a lot of mons need is proper move set releases so we know whether or not changes are gonna be in later games.

  • @illusionaryheart3325
    @illusionaryheart3325 2 роки тому +3

    A Pokémon that you can’t be 100% sure is even there that is immune to fake out…
    That’s gonna be so fun

  • @MirageUchiha
    @MirageUchiha Рік тому +1

    I already got my Hisui Zoro ready and love it wit my Gen 9 team!

  • @marioruiz5758
    @marioruiz5758 2 роки тому +4

    I can see hissuian zoroark getting will-o-wisp, fake out and icy wind. Maybe the frostbite condition stays in the game and it gets an ice type will-o-wisp, although that's speculating too much

  • @goGothitaLOL
    @goGothitaLOL 2 роки тому +5

    H-Zoroark also gets Shadow Sneak, in case you didn't know

  • @zachsands8869
    @zachsands8869 2 роки тому +3

    What if you use Zoroark and Hisuian Zoroark on the same team? That way your opponent, even if they know you're using a Zoroark, don't know which type to focus on.

  • @jelly2882
    @jelly2882 2 роки тому +2

    I cant wait for Hisuan Zorark for my nat dex mono normal team. Mono normal needed this since we have a useless legendary and a useless pseudo legendary

  • @lunatooons5930
    @lunatooons5930 2 роки тому

    So glad you made this video! Prior to the video I always brushed Zoroark aside, but I see the interesting potential now

  • @DragonairJordan23
    @DragonairJordan23 2 роки тому +6

    Love this things colour scheme, I can't wait to use my alpha version in vgc. Day 2 asking for enamourus and enamorus therian! it gets some nice coverage moves in earth power mystical fire and some cool abilities in contrary and overcoat. It's signature move either raises it's offensive and defensive stats or lowers the opponents offensive and defensive stats depending on the form

  • @_shadiness
    @_shadiness 2 роки тому +2

    I've been enjoying these review episodes so far! I'd love to see you doing a review on Basculegion and Enamorus soon

  • @kevinumana3582
    @kevinumana3582 2 роки тому +3

    Justified/steadfast lucario and h-zoroark would be pretty scary to go against if played correctly.

  • @Zek3nator
    @Zek3nator 2 роки тому +2

    Imagine if you had both forms in one team. Lots of mind games.

  • @essurio
    @essurio 2 роки тому +4

    I just caught a shiny one, named her Lilla. (Lila is purple in my native language and Lilla is a female name.)

  • @Darkbirt
    @Darkbirt 2 роки тому +1

    I never thought it would go well with Whimsicott, it gave me a good idea. Whimsicott, Hisuian Zoroark and a normal Arcanine with justified. You can guess the mind game. Try to use a Dark type move and my attack will increase. It's scary, because you can disguise it as two Pokémons. So, Whimsicott and Arcanine on the field. Who is who? And if whimsicott use Beat up on Arcanine. Or you guess wrong, Tailwind and Hisuian Zoroark can start sweeping. This will be so much fun.

  • @LordVex47
    @LordVex47 2 роки тому

    The typing is so 🔥

  • @Andoverx
    @Andoverx 2 роки тому +2

    I feel like competitive in Arceus might come later. I had heard rumors that they might be doing DLC for the game that would add more pokemon and a new area or two.

    • @MoxieBoosted
      @MoxieBoosted  2 роки тому +5

      It wouldn't make sense tbh. vgc 2022 has been announced to be entirely on swsh

  • @goGothitaLOL
    @goGothitaLOL 2 роки тому +2

    interested in taking a look at Basculegion or H-Goodra

  • @casper_z1259
    @casper_z1259 Рік тому

    Scrappy Fake Out Kangaskhan would be such a hard counter to this thing though

  • @robertboss2581
    @robertboss2581 2 роки тому

    Can’t wait to see the goodra video !

  • @benfield883
    @benfield883 2 роки тому +1

    Just having it on a team stops people from using fake out, one of the most common and beneficial moves in vgc. It could actually be a big meta diffiner and could cause many sets to change
    Imagine weezing +fake out user to stop zoroark .

  • @olivergro7105
    @olivergro7105 2 роки тому +1

    So can I trick people into thinking I use hisuian zoroark but it actually is the normal zoroark?

  • @michaeltran4275
    @michaeltran4275 2 роки тому +3

    Try the Basculegions

  • @drxavier1870
    @drxavier1870 2 роки тому +1

    I cant wait for the teams with Unovan and Hissuian Zoroark with Double Illusions with diffrent immunities

    • @adampozzobon5193
      @adampozzobon5193 2 роки тому

      Species Clause makes me sad that you can't do this

    • @drxavier1870
      @drxavier1870 2 роки тому

      @@adampozzobon5193 Anything Goes maybe?

  • @pokatana4130
    @pokatana4130 2 роки тому +2

    Bro. This could def be a good mon to fake people out on lead. If you pair it with a mon that resists dark in the back, it could be amazing and i really want to try it out. Also, I kinda want to hunt its shiny form :)

    • @Breckinisballin
      @Breckinisballin 2 роки тому

      Put a dark type in the back and watch your opponent CC into Zoroark

    • @pokatana4130
      @pokatana4130 2 роки тому

      @@Breckinisballin That would be awesome

  • @metalburger1117
    @metalburger1117 2 роки тому +1

    What I'm gonna say will kinda steer out of the Zoroark subject, but I don't think these Pokémon being added to SwSh would be, as you said, a "miracle". Maybe not only them, but also the ones in BDSP. I mean, I try to keep my expectations in check, but there must be a reason why Stantler and Ursaring were never added to SwSh (so their status as non-eviolite-elligible doesn't have to be changed) and the Gen IV fossils were the ONLY ones not added in the Crown Tundra DLC... right?

  • @marcoasturias8520
    @marcoasturias8520 2 роки тому +2

    I don't understand why frostbite is a special burn. It would make more sense if it was an alternative to induce burn, cus frostbite are effectively that, cold "burns".
    If anything lowering SpA was the buff regular poison needed

  • @ProfJermZ
    @ProfJermZ 2 роки тому +1

    H-Zoroark's signature move is a lot like H-Typhlosion? Guess I never noticed.
    I'm not that far in Arceus lol

    • @GoinGreninja
      @GoinGreninja 2 роки тому +4

      Barb Barrage, the signature move of H-Quilfish and Overquil is also just like H-Typhlosion and H-Zoroark's moves but it poisons instead of burning or frostbiting.

  • @midknight7113
    @midknight7113 2 роки тому +1

    Can you go over sneasler

  • @jonathandelvalle21
    @jonathandelvalle21 Рік тому

    Whats a good “illusion” Pokémon for H-Zoro?

  • @renzoriveral
    @renzoriveral Рік тому

    Hi, which nature do you recommend for hisuian zoroark? Naive or hasty? Or just timid. ty

  • @turtlenator6249
    @turtlenator6249 2 роки тому

    Maybe it can be used on Weezing teams since, other than some circumstances, it doesn’t really get worse without its ability.

  • @mechamobu777
    @mechamobu777 2 роки тому +1

    I can't wait to use these new Pokemon bruh

  • @renzoriveral
    @renzoriveral Рік тому

    zoroak H, better timid or hasty naive?

  • @mariachi_punk
    @mariachi_punk 2 роки тому +1

    Can you run double zoroarks? One regular one hisuian

  • @toypikachutheoctoling6029
    @toypikachutheoctoling6029 2 роки тому

    What's good about hisuian zoroark if you have it illusion it into a dark type

    • @MoxieBoosted
      @MoxieBoosted  2 роки тому +1

      Illusion doesn't change your typing. It just makes you look like another pokemon.

    • @toypikachutheoctoling6029
      @toypikachutheoctoling6029 2 роки тому

      @@MoxieBoosted I'm saying change into a pokemon that is a dark type

  • @sansgaster446
    @sansgaster446 2 роки тому

    I don't think hisuian zoroark has illusion

  • @textoffender3410
    @textoffender3410 2 роки тому

    I wish you could use zoroark + hisuian zoroark in 1v1 but:
    .They count as the same pokemon, so species clause doesn't allow it
    .illusion doesn't work in 1v1