Should You Use M4A4 or M4A1-S in 2023?

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  • Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
  • after the m4a1-s nerf, should you equip the m4a4 or the m4a1s in 2023? It Depends! This video will give you ALL the information you need on the differences between them, including analysis of pro csgo picks.

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  • @JerryTheToast
    @JerryTheToast Рік тому +10897

    The wise decision is, of course, to use the one you got the better skin for.

  • @Philbobama
    @Philbobama Рік тому +1602

    I use the A1-S and i take off the suppressor. I know it’s worse, but it makes everyone who dies to it mad. I am convinced that the psychological damage to my enemies makes it worth

    • @stanuk3010
      @stanuk3010 Рік тому +146

      Mind blowing strat

    • @jacobc5747
      @jacobc5747 Рік тому +213

      you might be equally effective both in killing ability and psychological horror using the famas in burst mode

    • @Philbobama
      @Philbobama Рік тому +41

      @@jacobc5747 woah.... im doing this now

    • @TeeJayPlays
      @TeeJayPlays Рік тому +32

      toxic damage +420

    • @AnimateMJ
      @AnimateMJ Рік тому +7

      +rep

  • @ManinTidyWhities
    @ManinTidyWhities Рік тому +1502

    The M4A1 S has an absurdly thin charging handle without the latch. Because of that, you have a mobility advantage over the M4A4. However, the M4A1 S' selector switch is stuck on safe. Therefore, it wouldn't fire. Whereas the M4A4 is on Auto, and will fire. Seems like a tie to me.
    EDIT 9/27/23: Thanks to the full release of CS2, Valve actually fixed the M4A1 S model by having the fire selector in the auto position, and gave it a proper charging handle. Therefore, rendering this entire comment null and void

    • @TrueNinjafrog
      @TrueNinjafrog Рік тому +29

      The true answer

    • @SirKartoshka
      @SirKartoshka Рік тому +71

      M4A1-S without suppressor looks cooler.
      M4A1 wins

    • @minephlip
      @minephlip Рік тому +45

      @@SirKartoshka also the sound, shooting the unsurpressed m4a1-s and Usp sounds so sick. like a turret or something

    • @christopherstein2024
      @christopherstein2024 Рік тому +5

      @@minephlip It's fun because it is forbidden...

    • @boombuleh2149
      @boombuleh2149 Рік тому

      the S is for Silencer :D

  • @jorgelenny47
    @jorgelenny47 Рік тому +24

    Next level: Take off suppressor, throw decoy and the enemies will be confused because they've never heard that gun sound. Bonus if you get a kill and show up on the feed

  • @turkeyman631
    @turkeyman631 Рік тому +4168

    I havent been around the community for all 13 years, but I feel like I can still say this is the best balancing of these 2 weapons in its history.

    • @marcsino5489
      @marcsino5489 Рік тому +131

      I am playing since launch and find both weapons in a good spot atm. both have their own qualities an non is OP.

    • @tomatyto1274
      @tomatyto1274 Рік тому +147

      it just took valve 13 years to do so

    • @davidthompson5710
      @davidthompson5710 Рік тому +99

      I still really miss those 5 bullets though.

    • @gunoorpog7139
      @gunoorpog7139 Рік тому +22

      @@davidthompson5710 then use the a4 !!😊

    • @liborkozak8938
      @liborkozak8938 Рік тому +8

      But shouldn't the more precise a1s have more damage long-range so the weapons have bigger differences and the choice matters more?

  • @TheWarOwl
    @TheWarOwl  Рік тому +649

    After watching this video, which are YOU going to equip?

    • @ossi8219
      @ossi8219 Рік тому +381

      your momma

    • @mistermyrslok512
      @mistermyrslok512 Рік тому +36

      m4a4

    • @awppenheimer
      @awppenheimer Рік тому +25

      Always used the M4A4 because extra ammo

    • @screenstalker2657
      @screenstalker2657 Рік тому +40

      M4A1 ofc

    • @gankjank
      @gankjank Рік тому +13

      m4a1-s because better for eco. unless they lower the price of the m4a4, i will probably not switch anytime soon.

  • @CR0WYT
    @CR0WYT Рік тому +388

    I've always prefered the M4A4 due to having more ammo and a spray pattern similar to the AK-47, which helps with consistency, but I was forced to use the M4A1-S due to it clearly being the better option in all categories. Now I can move back without worrying about being at a severe disadvantage.

    • @puskamuha9000
      @puskamuha9000 Рік тому +2

      same

    • @Astelch
      @Astelch Рік тому +1

      As a person who likes to showcase how many hours I’ve put in the game I love full spraying or spray transfer so I could show the light for any valorant gamers that the gunplay in csgo is superior. I dnt got nutty aim like valorant players but best believe I can stop a push pretty well.

  • @MartussMartuss
    @MartussMartuss Рік тому +135

    I believe that by nerfing the A1S Valve have accidentally made the AUG overpowered once again. It's now in my opinion the optimal strategy to use the A1S when you're playing close range angles and/or are short on cash, and the AUG when you're ahead or you're playing a long range position such as A long on overpass.
    The AUG still puts both the M4s to shame with its superior stats. It's the only CT rifle that can onetap helmeted oponents

    • @1cubsfan100
      @1cubsfan100 Рік тому +41

      Exactly, you get it. Those that prefer the m4a4 should just use the aug.

    • @erkanbulut2398
      @erkanbulut2398 Рік тому +9

      Aug can not one tap enemies with helmet

    • @FishieUwU
      @FishieUwU Рік тому +54

      @@erkanbulut2398 28 base damage with a 4x headshot multiplier.... you do the math lil bro

    • @NocturneOP55N1
      @NocturneOP55N1 Рік тому +5

      @@erkanbulut2398 It can, the A1S can as well. Depends on the range, for the A1S has to be pointblank

    • @versusVSversus.
      @versusVSversus. Рік тому

      @@NocturneOP55N1 I don't think it can

  • @SuperMongooser
    @SuperMongooser Рік тому +2237

    I find myself being much more confident and getting more kills with the m4a1 than the m4a4.

    • @TheWarOwl
      @TheWarOwl  Рік тому +1010

      could that be because you like the sound effect?

    • @serhiy-serhiiv
      @serhiy-serhiiv Рік тому +546

      @@TheWarOwl noticed this as well, USP just seems more accurate to me even though there's barely any stat differences to the P2000 because of the sound.

    • @n8bayonet
      @n8bayonet Рік тому +92

      ​@@TheWarOwl nah I feel the same way but it's not because of the sound effect it's because of the cost. If I push and die I can still buy it at the next round whereas with the a4 i find myself falling short of the purchase price by couple 100 dollars.

    • @hrznn
      @hrznn Рік тому +24

      For me the slower fire rate helps. It just feels precise. But ig that's because I got used to slow fire rate high power weapons in other fps games. If I want high fire rate I might as well take the skill90 (I play better with it than the m4a4).

    • @JJ-ji5ey
      @JJ-ji5ey Рік тому +11

      @@serhiy-serhiiv thats weird, considering i cant hit a wall with p2000 and usp is super good lol

  • @Aqua_Sasaki
    @Aqua_Sasaki Рік тому +703

    The A1-S has the funny suppressor, no matter the nerf I use it regardless.

    • @n8bayonet
      @n8bayonet Рік тому +10

      Funny how?

    • @Yugarash1
      @Yugarash1 Рік тому +1

      Agree

    • @ankzmoviez
      @ankzmoviez Рік тому +114

      @@n8bayonet You can BM your opponents by screwing on your loudencer. That's kind of funny

    • @PekaCheeki
      @PekaCheeki Рік тому +1

      and then remove it anyway

    • @FrankB1110
      @FrankB1110 Рік тому

      Chad energy.

  • @onixis3627
    @onixis3627 Рік тому +19

    The only change for the M4 I can think of is being able to buy both considering how situationnal they became

    • @tappajaav
      @tappajaav Рік тому +1

      Nah you have to make decision and stick with it.

    • @rayunited2010foryou
      @rayunited2010foryou Рік тому +2

      @@tappajaav It was fair in Cs 1.6 where you can use the same M4 in different situations (silencer off/on). This CSGO style selection of M4 is just a dick move by Valve.

    • @tappajaav
      @tappajaav Рік тому

      @@rayunited2010foryou Did switching silencer change the stats of the weapon? As in CSGO M4A1-S and M4A4 are quite different beasts

    • @rayunited2010foryou
      @rayunited2010foryou Рік тому +1

      @@tappajaav Even in Cs 1.6 the m4 with and without silencer is different. My point is, why did Valve have to change something in CS 1.6 to CSGO something that didn't need to be fixed? They never changed the tactics for Ts AK-47. It always was one fcking gun. Why two different m4s for the CTs, that too can't be changed in game? Dick move by Valve, I repeat.

    • @ethanfinch6899
      @ethanfinch6899 Рік тому

      @@rayunited2010foryou theyve fixed that

  • @corndoge3992
    @corndoge3992 Рік тому +15

    still remember the old sg553 and always using it despite it being the cod gun because the spray pattern was easier and it was so accurate

    • @pikachu8508
      @pikachu8508 Рік тому

      That's why I'm happy with the nerf of AUG and Krieg, because I only used AK, M4, AWP and Deagle since CS 1.6

    • @rarinth
      @rarinth Рік тому +12

      ​@@pikachu8508yea you're happy cuz noobs are finding out better guns actually are the solution and you don't wanna adapt

  • @crusaderonmeth454
    @crusaderonmeth454 Рік тому +720

    I have been using the SG since I started playing the game, it was ultra-accurate, it had good firing speed, good recoil, had a scope for long range engagements... Now it's less accurate and fires slower than any rifle in the game. I don't want it to be overpowered, I just want them to make it an alternative to an AK again.

    • @LedZedd
      @LedZedd Рік тому +95

      Don't hold your breath. Valve balance updated the Left 4 Dead 2 version of the SIG 556 before the CSGO one, literally lol

    • @ikbendusan
      @ikbendusan Рік тому +4

      VALVE PLEASE

    • @1ns1ght_l1
      @1ns1ght_l1 Рік тому +17

      If SG fire rate will be 575-590, we will have good AK alternative

    • @poppysilver
      @poppysilver Рік тому +4

      galil

    • @Insomnia_Onur
      @Insomnia_Onur Рік тому +1

      @@LedZedd srsly?

  • @nuuskapeke2104
    @nuuskapeke2104 Рік тому +30

    5:31
    I was not ready for that and i don't think i'll ever be the same ever again

  • @kmanz60
    @kmanz60 Рік тому +10

    Switched to a4 after the a1-s nerf… and I’m back to a1-s. It’s the difference in price that’s most noticeable. Also the aug fills the same shoes and comes with a scope. A bit more but the ct rifle options are better with the a1-s selected

  • @branchy2000inc
    @branchy2000inc Рік тому +18

    I like that some of the statistical differences between the two rifles reflect their real life properties. The M4A1-S is presumably using subsonic rounds, which have less gas pressure, meaning a lower cyclical rate. Also, since they're traveling slower, there is less of a chance of overpenetration against a target, which translates to more close-range damage

    • @carpaltunnelsyndrometime
      @carpaltunnelsyndrometime Рік тому +7

      if real life had anything to do with it, the A1-S would rarely cycle, because subsonic 5.56 doesn't really place nicely with anything but bolt guns lol

    • @jothamwong1130
      @jothamwong1130 11 місяців тому

      The m4a4 doesn’t exist?

    • @branchy2000inc
      @branchy2000inc 11 місяців тому +2

      @@jothamwong1130 it doesn't exist in real life under the name M4A4, but it's pretty clearly just a MK18 CQBR which does exist

  • @wybo
    @wybo Рік тому +433

    I think as a bombsite anchor it's more advantageous to use the M4A4 to counter rushes or fast pushes

    • @H4FF
      @H4FF Рік тому +18

      Depends on the site, still. On A mirage as the CT anchor I wouldn't use an A4, seeing as the range you're fighting at is long and you will often be shooting through or over smokes.

    • @pagatryx5451
      @pagatryx5451 Рік тому +40

      Pretty much... The price difference isn't the deal maker, it's the TEN less bullets in a mag. How often on CT do you get nice and handy 1v1 fights? Better teams execute fast and hard. You need the extra bullets so you aren't forced to reload in such scenarios, and having those extra bullets makes you less conservative with your pre-fire's and transfers.
      The price difference is huge to the point I'd pick the A1 every time on T side. But on CT, the playstyle doesn't benefit the M4A1s unless you have a five man and they're fine with you always playing like an idiot.

    • @lemontaingaming4095
      @lemontaingaming4095 Рік тому +11

      ​@@H4FF yeah but at long range the a1 will have decreased damage,it wont be a head and chest ,so it is preety bad

    • @H4FF
      @H4FF Рік тому +1

      @Pagatryx I don't think that's even true. If you're playing on CT and you are taking fights that involve multiple people multiple times as the execute happens, you're playing it wrong. You play for the retake if you play ct, so you definitely shouldn't ever be in thats situation.
      Edit: my bad, because I responded to this comment myself UA-cam notified me as if you responded to me directly, and I don't think you did. I agree in principle, I was simply advocating for the a1s in specific positions :)

    • @H4FF
      @H4FF Рік тому

      @@lemontaingaming4095 I really have no problems hitting double headshots or a 3rd bullet. Again, it is also about being able to spam - or to hit 5 bullets consistently on a body if you miss the head. It's just easier to use at range.

  • @milan99cz
    @milan99cz Рік тому +175

    A1-S just because of the spray pattern and the silencer, sometimes the enemies can be so confused as to where you are shooting from

  • @user-tb8zt7wg4p
    @user-tb8zt7wg4p Рік тому +3

    I've been switching them since I can remember. First I started with the m4a4 cuz I didn't know anything, then I used the m4a1-s because it was easier to shoot and I was a noob. Then I learned to play the m4a4 and it felt better to me for some reason and I really liked the bigger mag size. Then I switched to m4a1-s because it was objectively better and then it got nerfed so I switched to m4a4 again. Now I'm back to m4a1's because I can buy it more often since it has a lower price and even if I had money for the m4a4 an extra flashbang would be nicer than a few bullets in the mag that you may not even use.

  • @crawnify3480
    @crawnify3480 Рік тому +3

    Never in a million years would I have thought I’d hear Warowl say “sneaky peaky sussy baka”

  • @MrRobotrax
    @MrRobotrax Рік тому +187

    As someone who plays with friends in low gold/high silver, the a4 is definitely the way to go. It's too often that the entire T side pushes the site while the rest of my team is off on the opposite side of the map, and the a1s just doesn't have the bullets needed to spray the whole team down.

    • @iridiumman3087
      @iridiumman3087 Рік тому +35

      Bro which silver knows how to spray? You are bullying us at that point 😂

    • @theTranscendentOnes
      @theTranscendentOnes Рік тому +12

      lol as if m4a4 having enough bullets to spray down means u're actually gonna know how to do that. like the bullets advantage is relevant in 10% of situations

    • @tappajaav
      @tappajaav Рік тому +18

      P90 is incredibly good weapon in low ranks. Highly recommend.

    • @treeskers
      @treeskers Рік тому +6

      @@theTranscendentOnes thats a pretty large amount of situations lol

    • @theTranscendentOnes
      @theTranscendentOnes Рік тому +1

      @@treeskers Not enough to justify using an m4a4 just so you could "have enough ammo to spray the entire team"

  • @leitinhofresquinho8869
    @leitinhofresquinho8869 Рік тому +78

    The return of the SPREAD made my day 😊

  • @Per7ival__
    @Per7ival__ Рік тому +2

    Through out the years, still the same energy, same entertaining, the same lack of closer. Love you, WarOwl

  • @teamzy9388
    @teamzy9388 Рік тому +3

    I used to play m4a1s without a suppresser 💀💀💀

  • @Exodus1337
    @Exodus1337 Рік тому +31

    I am still waiting for the day that we can change loadout mid game..

    • @tappajaav
      @tappajaav Рік тому

      That was called disconnecting and rejoining in the past.

    • @Exodus1337
      @Exodus1337 Рік тому +1

      @@tappajaav that only swapped skins for half time

    • @cheechy9423
      @cheechy9423 Рік тому +1

      No, it shouldnt that's an awful idea this isn't call of duty

    • @kreizeeboi
      @kreizeeboi Рік тому +7

      @@cheechy9423 it's not that big of a deal.

  • @tuzzer2505
    @tuzzer2505 Рік тому +8

    most important: for what weapon do you have the better skin?

  • @MASON92J
    @MASON92J Рік тому +7

    I’ve always been an A1S user until recently. I play so much better with the A4 and it has a similar pattern to the AK so I feel much more consistent now. I think having more ammo increases confidence too even though most of the time that extra ammo isn’t needed. I’m really surprised I like the a4 better now

    • @Likexner
      @Likexner 9 місяців тому

      The a4 actually has the same pattern as the a1, the only thing thats different is the fire rate and the recovery time between shots, which is what makes the spray less accurate overall.

  • @supd3350
    @supd3350 Рік тому +7

    0:05 dude Im a csgo player I dont have a brain

  • @vanith2541
    @vanith2541 Рік тому +53

    Used a1s for most of my playtime, but been using a4 more lately as I often find myself appreciating the extra bullets. I got several 3-4k on a single mag while solo holding a site where I'd run out of shots after the second kill using a1s.

    • @APerson-tk8cw
      @APerson-tk8cw Рік тому

      I do like a1s a lot more, since its more accurate for an average player like me, and suppressor is useful for getting long range kills, without revealing position.., (I am not a prime player, so casual mode/comp mode with bots, just to understand economy), but i just equipped a4 for most of the time, just so that, i won't find it hard to use.
      We probably don't need to learn spray pattern for a1s, unlike the a4.

    • @srensen3081
      @srensen3081 Рік тому

      i love spamming smokes so a1 it is

  • @earthling_parth
    @earthling_parth Рік тому +64

    Valve deserves some praise here for really balancing these weapons this time 👍

  • @BlauerGMI
    @BlauerGMI Рік тому +30

    How about an option to switch equipped guns during a match, maybe similar to how tactical timeouts work?

    • @rahatzaman8120
      @rahatzaman8120 Рік тому +11

      Naah it'll ruin the game .

    • @lartonki
      @lartonki Рік тому +4

      @@rahatzaman8120 How it would ruin the game?

    • @rahatzaman8120
      @rahatzaman8120 Рік тому +1

      @@lartonki "chosing" a certain weapon is a fun side for the game . In that case .. why even bother having two M4s in the gun ? Just keep one of them .
      But I'd say the most important thing is it'll make the CT side stronger .. and that shouldn't happen .
      Why ? Because if you have even a basic understanding of military thinking .. it says the defender side is already in an advantage simply because they are defending .. "cover" is their weapon . So CT guns shouldn't be too powerful . The T side need more powerful guns and utilities because they have to take risk and push through .
      This was evident in many recent matches after the M4a1s damage update .. CTs were destroying the T side .
      It is good for the game that the CT rifles are less powerful and more costly .

    • @rahatzaman8120
      @rahatzaman8120 Рік тому +2

      @@lartonki in short .. having to chose only one M4 makes the CTs weaker . Because they have to sacrifice one advantage ( like bigger mag ) to chose another advantage ( more accuracy less cost ) etc

    • @lartonki
      @lartonki Рік тому +8

      @@rahatzaman8120 Well even if they would make able to choose between both m4 ct side wouldnt be nearly as strong than it was before 1s nerf. And i think it wouldnt really effect that mutch on pro games but would be usefull on mm games where playing with randoms where you cant allways play where you want so you would at least choose m4 fitting better on your position that you will end up playing.

  • @zaneatat
    @zaneatat Рік тому +2

    0:34 IKR

  • @a1zephyr
    @a1zephyr Рік тому +3

    5:31 local old man tries to connect with the youngsters

  • @cptmacmillan1111
    @cptmacmillan1111 Рік тому +10

    I'm disappointed WarOwl did not include one of the BIGGEST reasons to consider whether to equip A4 or A1-S.
    Which gun has better skins?
    M4A4 has the Howl, Poseidon, Asiimov, etc.
    M4A1-S has the Golden Coil, Hyper Beast, Hot Rod, etc.
    jk. ty for the updated info WarOwl.,

    • @TheWarOwl
      @TheWarOwl  Рік тому +15

      yeah I have howl so it's obvious which I'm equipping.

    • @arnavpawar234
      @arnavpawar234 Рік тому +1

      @@TheWarOwl weird flex but okay

  • @In_aw3
    @In_aw3 Рік тому +1

    3:58 I agree! Something about the A4’s personality makes it a good choice for long term relationships!

  • @APerson-tk8cw
    @APerson-tk8cw 11 місяців тому +1

    Now it seems like you can use both M4A1 as well as M4A4 in the same game.. the loadout menu in Counter-Strike 2 has indeed changed and you can equip any 5 rifles in the buy menu loadout., which means, we can even replace aug or Scar-20 if we might not use them much; with the main rifles we use. just amazing..

  • @roznaczygestosc
    @roznaczygestosc Рік тому +3

    I have m4a1s equipped because I'm so bad at this game I have to use a gun with a handicap :)
    btw I like that u use mirage now, since it's a "new dust2" in terms of a percentage of a player base that mains only this one map :)

  • @kuzonCS2
    @kuzonCS2 Рік тому +4

    Psycho gang with unsuppressed a1 rise up!

    • @TheWarOwl
      @TheWarOwl  Рік тому +7

      it is actually VERY bad, the only advantage is that it is VERY accurate while moving for some reason

    • @bigbadt
      @bigbadt Рік тому +2

      @@TheWarOwl yeah nice stats how about i remove the suppressor from my USP-S too

    • @Shdw-ce8zi
      @Shdw-ce8zi Рік тому

      @@TheWarOwl is it more accurate while moving without the suppressor or is it the same?

  • @JimTornado122
    @JimTornado122 Рік тому +4

    Never thought I'd hear someone as cool and collected and professional as WarOwl to say sussy baka. I'm all for it

  • @sir380
    @sir380 Рік тому +1

    0:54 “OooOoOoohhhHhh NNNOOooOoOo”
    ~WarOwl 2023

  • @electrovevopropyro
    @electrovevopropyro Рік тому +4

    Whichever one you have a skin for

  • @kaloyanm.r2233
    @kaloyanm.r2233 Рік тому +4

    "more awps for jame" bruhh that had me ☠☠🤣🤣

  • @psych0CS2
    @psych0CS2 Рік тому +3

    I switch depending on map and role/position.
    If im playing support or awp i use a1s for price
    If im rifle or anchor i use a4 (mostly) because of faster fire rate and more ammo.
    However i always use the a1s on Vertigo and ancient because of wallbangs and smoke spams.
    If im playing pit on inferno i use a1s for 1 ways.
    Anubis i usually go a4. Idk why.
    Nuke A4 cause i usually play ramp or A anchor
    Mirage and overpass i switch alot

  • @riker8214
    @riker8214 Рік тому +23

    I have been going back and forth. It is hard to decide but I think the price of the A1-s is the deciding factor for me.

  • @rmiah
    @rmiah Рік тому +16

    I wanna say M4A1S solely because the price is so much more flexible.. but goddamn the M4A4 just FEELS so much better to use.

  • @Tasoittaja
    @Tasoittaja Рік тому +11

    To me, the mag size reduction was the biggest problematic for the previous M4-s. My playing style prefers having more ammo in the mag as I shoot a lot through walls, prefire, and miss a lot.

  • @SharkBeret
    @SharkBeret 10 місяців тому +2

    me after shooting the m4a1-s for 0.0001 seconds:
    *I NEED MORE BOOLETS*

  • @kaloyanm.r2233
    @kaloyanm.r2233 Рік тому +12

    I once removed the suppressor of the A1S and it felt really unnatural, like I bugged the gun

    • @NapOfNaps
      @NapOfNaps Рік тому

      unfortunately the reworked sound of the a1s is so unpleasant for me that whenever I get an a1 over an a4 as a drop the first thing I do is take the silencer off, it's outright unusable for me due to the sound lmao

  • @coobk
    @coobk Рік тому +4

    i currently use the M4A1s
    tho depending on what position i have to fill i sometimes fall back onto the AUG,
    like if the default were playing calls for me to solo hold a site
    people definetely sleep a bit on the AUG again...
    yes its a bit of a middleground between the 2 m4s
    BUT especially for A1s users it may be compelling in some rounds
    reinvesting those 200 bucks you saved in earlier rounds when you need it
    the AUG spray is also pisseasy, not as pisseasy as the a1s, but the lower S P R E A D really pays off

    • @thatjosiahburns
      @thatjosiahburns Рік тому +1

      holding dust2 B site with an AUG is op

    • @1cubsfan100
      @1cubsfan100 Рік тому +1

      I also go with the m4a1-s and aug. The m4a4 is sort of a middle ground to the aug and the m4a1 but in a bad way imo. The aug is better at all ranges because it can one shot headshot at very close distance, and also 4 shot to the chest at very close distance. It is obviously superior at longer distances as well so if you can afford the aug then it should be the clear choice.

    • @JohnSmith-REs
      @JohnSmith-REs Рік тому

      aug is good but it makes you broke

    • @1cubsfan100
      @1cubsfan100 Рік тому

      ​@@JohnSmith-REs I actually get kills with the aug so it makes up the difference

    • @coobk
      @coobk Рік тому

      @@JohnSmith-REs skill issue

  • @mykingjr
    @mykingjr Рік тому +1

    BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO! THEY'RE SO WELL BALANCED I LOVE IT!!!

  • @mig-l9059
    @mig-l9059 Рік тому +1

    "This is the only case where shorter is better" honestly, didn't see that one coming, made me laugh out loud ^^

  • @hoonterofhoonters6588
    @hoonterofhoonters6588 Рік тому +3

    I used to use the A1-S because it's cheaper, funny smoke kills, and because anyone will drop either M4 for an AK, but it's just too weak after the range nerf. I'm relying on other guns on CT side now.
    If I need a good and expedient assault rifle on CT, then I'll pay the extra money for the M4A4.

  • @spiedey8
    @spiedey8 Рік тому +3

    I remember watching your SG553 video and thinking, "I (instinctively) knew it was better, nice data to back up my choice." Somehow I left the game after it was nerfed, never had made the connection that you may have ruined it for me. Few people knew the recoil pattern and it was rarely picked up when dropped, it was full of advantages.
    Just make a video and say the SG553 is way to nerfed, it will be a nice comeback for me, along with the Source 2 update. :))

  • @ransom5530
    @ransom5530 Рік тому +1

    The last 7 seconds of this video single handedly made me bungie jump without a cord

  • @ethan004
    @ethan004 Рік тому +18

    Personally even after the nerf, the A1-S is still a lazer, I have no trouble killing enemies from Window to Top mid this has earned me the name "Budget AWPer" because of how I have taken down AWPers many times with the A1-S, I find the A4 to be weaker and less of a lazer, I never went to the A4 I only switched because I wanted to try it out and see, it did not go well.
    I always called my friend a Psychopath because the one game I caught him taking the suppressor off EVERY single M4A1-S that he found, like who does that!?

    • @APerson-tk8cw
      @APerson-tk8cw Рік тому

      I just keep a4, to get used to the playstyle of it, otherwise a1s is mostly what i would prefer, if i played comp.
      The first time i used a1s, i never felt it harder to use, unlike a4., although, both are great in their own ways.

    • @marlon.8051
      @marlon.8051 Рік тому

      no silencer mean loud sound and it sounds cool without supressor

  • @PotentialGrim
    @PotentialGrim Рік тому +12

    I like how different the weapons are and how they induce you to switch your playstyles. I truly hope the MP7/MP5 get the same treatment one day.

    • @definitelynotafamousyoutub6131
      @definitelynotafamousyoutub6131 Рік тому +5

      Both of them are shit compared to mp 9 its just better

    • @zaka3904
      @zaka3904 Рік тому

      ​@@definitelynotafamousyoutub6131 nah you gotta be more careful using a mp9 + it aint good at distances

    • @wolniacha_tv
      @wolniacha_tv Рік тому +3

      @@zaka3904 meanwhile Im getting 2 insta hs on mid mirage while holding window

  • @CherryZ
    @CherryZ Рік тому +1

    the higher base damage is honestly the best reason to use the m4a1. 4 shots to the body vs 5 is honestly huge, and at $2900... It's so OP close to mid range.

  • @TheKlangSeven
    @TheKlangSeven 3 місяці тому

    So yeah
    As i tested, the m4a1-s without silencer gets better to cqb confrontation with the peek shots (you walk to the side but stop your character and shot fastly backing to cover, during that stop all the guns recover accuracy) but worse for long confrontations in which you stand more still, same way on usp, it’s a beast for peeks and cqb confrontations where you need to move more, the move innacuracy penalty hits less as long you do the little stops I mentioned! accuracy gets so, so high that is easy for one tap in the peeks/stops
    Now, if you don’t quite feel you will need move much or do peeks, keep the silencer in both
    M4a4 is excellent for baits and at least medium distance if you ever manage to control high recoil, it’s not hard but still not practical and someone with ak would do a easier spray on you, but in this case about stand still, you need chose your poison
    Little shots with m4a1-s to avoid early accuracy degradation (literally 5 shots the spread is noticeable) while m4a4 more or less spread at 10 shots, it means the spray transfer is easier and if you miss the first shots, you have chance
    I nowdays use m4a1-s by silenced advantages and also cause i want to learn movements better and have more discipline

  • @sketchyforlife
    @sketchyforlife Рік тому +11

    I just want Valve to make them take up different slots. Let all the CT rifles share slots so I can un-equip FAMAS (it’s hot ass) and replace it with A1-S. I don’t have a consistent stack so I swap roles a lot and it would be nice to have all my choices available to me in game, rather than having to think ahead and swap rifles.

  • @TachyKusanagi
    @TachyKusanagi Рік тому +3

    The whole part starting at 5:09 is a direct attack at JERICHO. D:

  • @TreeGreenOak
    @TreeGreenOak Рік тому +1

    I always used M4A1-S and not switching back to m4a4. The reason why I use M4A1-S is because I like to push and flank and overall I like 1-way smokes where they can't hear or see me shooting at them. So personally it fits my style of playing. Also if you flank some one from behind on dust or which ever map you notice that silence can realy helpe shooting them in the back before they realize some one is there. Like I said it just fits my style of playing.

  • @zynxajeaesthetics6067
    @zynxajeaesthetics6067 Рік тому

    Finally the OG csgo tips videos are back.

  • @lartonki
    @lartonki Рік тому +4

    I switch between them depending on my mood, map etc. I hope we would have option to choose between them on every round.

  • @leitinhofresquinho8869
    @leitinhofresquinho8869 Рік тому +5

    I equipt the one that had the best skin 😢

  • @jckongs
    @jckongs Рік тому +2

    I have a M4A4 Howl that's why I equip it (That's something I would have said if I had one)

  • @Squishycoolsword12
    @Squishycoolsword12 Рік тому

    your still getting better with every video and i still really enjoy your content i watch it even tho i dont play cs anymore your low key inspiring i miss who i was when i found you and i miss playing cs

  • @anonl5877
    @anonl5877 Рік тому +6

    I think the A1-S is better overall for new players. It does slightly more damage at close range, and because it has less recoil and spread, you'll be more likely to actually hit your shots at long range. And then you have the benefits of the suppressor, on top of that.

  • @colorfulvoid1473
    @colorfulvoid1473 Рік тому +3

    Why not both? 😏

  • @claysoggyfries
    @claysoggyfries 11 місяців тому +1

    I like the silencer because you can take it off if you feel like it

  • @m-yday
    @m-yday Рік тому +1

    Also, if I had the M4A4’s Howl skin, I’d likely choose that over the M4A1-S :)

  • @pudie8952
    @pudie8952 Рік тому +5

    I miss the scoped rifles. I never really tested them myself but I remember back then checking the stats and realizing the SG was just a drastically superior AK for just 200 extra dollars.
    Meanwhile, here, people still chooses a minorly superior M4 for the same price.
    What I'm sad about is how dependant most players are depending on the pro scene. Lots of people won't test things themselves and create their own personal playstyle and set of rules, they keep trying to act like something they're generally not.
    The ammount of times I've seen people complaining about my SGs and AUGs back then was astronomical, till I showed them their potential.
    I'm still mad that Valve had to force the pros down that path as well, I expected at least them to actually consider these weapons as well, but no...
    It's safe to say people won't try new things unless they're very clearly a better choice. Back then you always had the choices right there, you could check the stats, do a few spray tests in Casual and realize how powerful these rifles were.
    I appreciate this video even though I've been away from CSGO for ages now, but I really wish people would check it out themselves. Imagine how much better and varied matches could be if people spent some time trying to be comfortable with their own choices and not trying to be a clone of someone else.
    All things said, M4A1 gang, fuck the Silencer, listen to those sexy M4A1 screams, all worth the countless deaths you'll get for it.

    • @bernabo9115
      @bernabo9115 Рік тому

      if i could put a loudener to my m4 i would, i want my enemies to know i'm coming for them.

  • @apolomancz
    @apolomancz Рік тому +3

    DID HE JUST SAID SUSSY BAKA?

  • @krypt1ccc739
    @krypt1ccc739 Рік тому +2

    At a somewhat low level the suppressor makes a massive difference. Comms aren't perfect by any means in mm and faceit so not having your exact position be revealed is an advantage and those 180 flick ak shots happen almost never using the A1-s

  • @AbsolutionArmament
    @AbsolutionArmament Рік тому

    TBF I always loved the SG556 and I always played in a stack. When I saw pros start using I knew it's time had come. Now we have an absolute abortion for it's nerf. Now I just run an AK or steal an AUG. My top 3 hated nerfs are Deagle, Awp magazine, SG in that order.
    I normally play office and on CT side the awp with the magazine nerf has defiantly changed positioning more so than probably any other map. Before once you took fountain you could hold your own doing paper and T spawn connector wall bangs while still leaving ammo left over for aggressive players pushing out of paper. Now you have to be extremely cautious of them waiting for a reload where they'll normally sprint out paper to try and take you. This is solved by having a extra CT with you covering. But that loses 1 person for long pushes if there is a hostage there.

  • @Giofear
    @Giofear Рік тому +5

    Maybe a stupid game changing suggestion, but try to think about it. What if the pistol draw time gets decreased so you would be able to utilize quick gun change when you run out of your ammo? I always feel like it almost doesn't matter if I reload or switch to sidearm because the times are so similar. I know it's still a bit faster to draw sidearm, but I would like to see what would happen if it would be even faster. Would it make me use the pistols more? And reload less?

  • @johnforestersworstnightmar3756
    @johnforestersworstnightmar3756 Рік тому +10

    If only the Valve let us choose between both weapons in the buy menu. But that would make too much sense.

  • @how2b407
    @how2b407 10 місяців тому

    "I may be partially responsible for this." too funny, thats a free sub right there.

  • @DaNny-uj1pp
    @DaNny-uj1pp Рік тому +1

    I was playing with M4A4 for quite some time , then i decided to switch to M4A1-S , i am a guy who sprays in the smokes and getting kills a lot like A LOT , on Mirage i love playing catwalk support , and i got one way kind of smoke where i can see people who go to connector , chair and right side of top mid boxes . M4A1-S gives me huge advantage here since they cant see my tracers and probably cant even hear where I'm shooting from since they are focused on the guy in window or connector. I have to be precise tho! having 20 bullets means burst in the head ONLY in situations like that , i mostly get 1 to 3 kills with that smoke, M4A1-S for me is the go! ( Also cheap skin craft that i made and it looks so satisfying using it! ( M4A1-S Nitro + 3 or 4 Obey SAS stickers ) it looks pretty yummy ( i use 3 stickers ) , this will cost you around 2-3 dollars if you are looking for high float FT.

  • @Maarttiin
    @Maarttiin Рік тому +4

    I've been using the M4, but the only times I've used the A1-S was because of its price.
    A1-S should be OP'd again and exchange prices with the M4.

  • @marnoux
    @marnoux Рік тому +4

    Hey you made this video 7 years ago!

    • @TheWarOwl
      @TheWarOwl  Рік тому +5

      much has changed since then

    • @marnoux
      @marnoux Рік тому

      @@TheWarOwl I meant it in the best way possible. I've been watching you since then!

  • @DrMario-
    @DrMario- Рік тому +1

    Alternative solution, let people choose what they want at any point in the match. Same with the CZ.

  • @gospinN
    @gospinN Рік тому +2

    There is 3 guns I use in csgo:
    No money = Deagle
    I have money = MP9
    I have way too much money = AWP

  • @youtubeus3rname
    @youtubeus3rname Рік тому

    WO, I just wanted to point out how much your contents has changed for the better over the last year or so. I absolutely love the new style videos. 👍

  • @stephenseputra9897
    @stephenseputra9897 Рік тому

    The sound effect for the suppressor wins it for me.

  • @mikerotchburns42069
    @mikerotchburns42069 Рік тому +1

    I like the M4A1-s without the suppressor. It sounds cool so I use it

  • @Mihael_Keehl31
    @Mihael_Keehl31 11 місяців тому +1

    That’s no longer a problem in cs2. I love the fact that we can finally use both.

  • @kj9439
    @kj9439 10 місяців тому +1

    Since cs2 came out, we should use both of them, since we can select them both to buy menu

  • @im2shady4u13
    @im2shady4u13 Рік тому

    Video is spot on, except for your call about only psychopaths taking the silencer off the M4A1-S. LET IT THANG BARK!

  • @gunnar1734
    @gunnar1734 Рік тому +1

    It all comes to what skins you have on the weapons

  • @magnusandersen8898
    @magnusandersen8898 Рік тому

    I'll never get tired of hearing that SPREAD sound effect

  • @Falclone
    @Falclone Рік тому

    this video was so short and concise, i now need to find a 2nd youtube vid to watch while i eat

  • @adrianoss.bougas3720
    @adrianoss.bougas3720 Рік тому

    The only and real chad solution to this ever back and forth issue is to merge them. Make it a cosmetic choice.
    Apply the stats of m4a4 to both, apply first shot accuracy of m4a1s to both.
    Adding silencer is -5 speed

  • @cerjmedia
    @cerjmedia Рік тому

    Love watching this videos even though I've never played CS:GO and have only played CSS

  • @heroicgg
    @heroicgg Рік тому +1

    Now we just need to be able to swap between them

  • @bast4rdlyreaper
    @bast4rdlyreaper Рік тому +1

    I don't understand why in the game you can't choose either in-game. They are both situational.

  • @Chaserbl
    @Chaserbl Рік тому

    Last time I was on your channel was in 2020 start or 'rona.
    Good to know you're doing csgo vids still

  • @10poundsofcrap
    @10poundsofcrap Рік тому

    i missed those vids, always love your content where you just talk about the game's current meta, talking to the community in unboxafragathon (RIP) etc.
    keep it up, will always love your humor

  • @itamarVR46
    @itamarVR46 Рік тому

    I haven't been on the scene long enough (less than 2 years) but you are hilarous and smart at the same time. I don't understand how you haven't joined any of the casters at ESL / Blast so far. You totally have the voice and experience to do so it seems

  • @grandmasteryoda503
    @grandmasteryoda503 Рік тому +2

    I usually play short matches so A1s all the way. I tried the a4 but it just meant that if you're having a bad game you might only end up being able to buy 1-2 on the CT side... A1s being cheaper makes all the difference, plus it just shoots more accurately.

  • @Omega900
    @Omega900 Рік тому +1

    They could have just set both weapons at a 3k price and the option to purchase both in the match and let people decide which one to get instead of nerfing and buffing the one or the other all the time ...