Arabian Western Pleasure Championship - Scottsdale Arabian Horse Show

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  • @KT-be2fi
    @KT-be2fi 8 місяців тому +7

    I love the Western classes. Thank you!

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  8 місяців тому +1

      That's great and thanks for letting me know!

    • @44hgda
      @44hgda 3 місяці тому

      This is amusing to me as an Arab woman. I see our Arabian horses being mixed with other breeds, allowing the West to take pride in them and make them a symbol for themselves. There is no comparison to authentic Arabian horses with an unmixed lineage, as these horses originate from the Arabian Peninsula, and their true knights are the Arabs.

  • @dapplerosegrey260
    @dapplerosegrey260 8 місяців тому +9

    I ride both English (hunt seat) and Western, but I just love the Western style. Loved that chestnut in particular. Arabians look so gorgeous in Western tack. 🥰🐴

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  8 місяців тому

      Very cool that you ride both styles. I especially loved the mane on that chestnut that I think you're talking about.

    • @44hgda
      @44hgda 3 місяці тому

      This is amusing to me as an Arab woman. I see our Arabian horses being mixed with other breeds, allowing the West to take pride in them and make them a symbol for themselves. There is no comparison to authentic Arabian horses with an unmixed lineage, as these horses originate from the Arabian Peninsula, and their true knights are the Arabs.

  • @lousylvester923
    @lousylvester923 8 місяців тому +5

    I have ridden both. The Arabianare are a beautiful breed .

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  8 місяців тому

      They certainly are a beautiful breed! That's cool that you have ridden both types of disciplines.

  • @suzanneyoung8011
    @suzanneyoung8011 8 місяців тому +2

    I enjoyed watching that Western class. Thanks!

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  8 місяців тому +2

      You're welcome and thanks for letting me know!

  • @erinbodine6933
    @erinbodine6933 8 місяців тому +4

    This gives me goosebumps. The Arabian horse is my favorite

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks and I'm glad you liked seeing these beautiful horses!

  • @DeeAnnKjelshusJohnson
    @DeeAnnKjelshusJohnson 7 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful! I love the western classes! I appreciate all the filming you do. 😊

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  5 місяців тому

      @@DeeAnnKjelshusJohnson thank you and I'm glad you like the videos!

  • @bdctrans70
    @bdctrans70 2 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for the coverage of this class, though I still love and prefer the English style classes.

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  2 місяці тому +1

      @@bdctrans70 you're welcome and I appreciate the feedback!

  • @ramonafahrni5701
    @ramonafahrni5701 8 місяців тому +4

    Wellcome back Sir!

  • @RobynHoodeofSherwood
    @RobynHoodeofSherwood 8 місяців тому +3

    Took me a while to adjust to this. I'm not used to seeing Arabians carry their heads so low, even though I've seen quite a few cutting horse classes, mainly with Quarter horses. Gorgeous animals. I loved that lady's outfit.

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks Raven! The western classes are definitely much different than English!

  • @DeboeahHauser
    @DeboeahHauser 8 місяців тому +9

    Every one is behind the bit

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  8 місяців тому

      I don't know enough about it to agree or disagree with you, but I find it hard to believe that every single rider is doing it wrong in this championship class at the biggest Arabian horse show in the world.

    • @DustyPawPaws
      @DustyPawPaws 8 місяців тому +3

      @@MagnificentHorses The Arabian Nationals would be the Largest Show that is held every year for Arabians.. The U.S. National Arabian & Half-Arabian Championship Horse Show, held annually at Tulsa's Expo Square, is the most prestigious Arabian horse show in North America. Also ...the right or wrong is being disputed now....but to make it easier to understand.....overly flexed necks, chin just about touching chest. Exaggerated a bit too much.

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  8 місяців тому +1

      @@DustyPawPaws OK thanks for the info.

    • @14labster
      @14labster 4 місяці тому +2

      Yes, overflexed.

  • @sarahmarks7082
    @sarahmarks7082 8 місяців тому +2

    Thank you Dave for showing this western 🤠 class! I can't choose 😁WHEW ❤‍🔥 these Arabians are gorgeous🌹 and look at this sleek muscle 💪

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks Sarah! Glad you liked seeing a western class in addition to all the English classes that they normally do.

  • @cowgirlamy8252
    @cowgirlamy8252 8 місяців тому +1

    I loved watching this video of the western pleasure Arabian horse classes! All of the Arabian horses look really beautiful! 🤠❤❤❤❤❤🐎

  • @MissLady-pq4hc
    @MissLady-pq4hc 8 місяців тому +3

    Any and all, please.🐴❤️

  • @KerryDior
    @KerryDior 8 місяців тому +3

    Love to see more Western ❤

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  8 місяців тому

      Thanks for letting me know and based on your comment and some others I will start including those in this channel's repertoire!

  • @david767mihawk7
    @david767mihawk7 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for this channel!! Love WP, just found this channel!!

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  7 місяців тому

      You're welcome and that's awesome! Glad to have you as part of this channel!

  • @yourlocalmads
    @yourlocalmads 8 місяців тому +3

    Such gorgeous horses, Arabians are like no other 💙

  • @MichelleWenger-jb5pb
    @MichelleWenger-jb5pb 6 місяців тому +1

    I want to see more western

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  6 місяців тому

      @@MichelleWenger-jb5pb OK, thanks for letting me know! I have a western pleasure championship class from the Scottsdale Arabian horse show that will be published this coming Saturday, July 13.

  • @annamcgeagh8104
    @annamcgeagh8104 8 місяців тому +4

    More western please

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  8 місяців тому +3

      OK, thanks for the input and I will start throwing in some western classes when publishing the videos.

    • @annamcgeagh8104
      @annamcgeagh8104 8 місяців тому +2

      @@MagnificentHorses thank you so much. I ride western and saw that class live. Love all of the western disciplines. I would love to see trail, ranch and even the cow work. Love your videos!

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  8 місяців тому +2

      @@annamcgeagh8104 thank you very much and I'm glad you enjoy my videos! Next year I plan to get some of those classes you mentioned in your last comment.

  • @crfflashforward
    @crfflashforward 7 місяців тому +1

    Yes, please keep showing us the W. Pleasure horses.

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  7 місяців тому +2

      Thank you, I will! Should have another one coming out in the next few weeks.

  • @bonniemott9119
    @bonniemott9119 8 місяців тому +1

    Thank you enjoyed the Western

  • @royalty77724
    @royalty77724 8 місяців тому +1

    love the western classes.

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  8 місяців тому

      Glad to hear it! I plan to upload another western class in probably two weeks or so.

    • @royalty77724
      @royalty77724 8 місяців тому

      @@MagnificentHorses Thank you!

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  8 місяців тому

      @@royalty77724 you're welcome!

  • @Defied_-vw2jz
    @Defied_-vw2jz 7 місяців тому +1

    Awesome.

  • @s.e.w.7257
    @s.e.w.7257 8 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for showing the Western Classes! I did not see Eddie McCain- does he not compete in the Western Class? As always great video!

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks and glad you like my videos! I don't believe Eddie McCain competes in any western classes.

  • @NDN_Cowboy_01
    @NDN_Cowboy_01 6 місяців тому +1

    Dig the western classes. Got me watching 👍

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  6 місяців тому +1

      @@NDN_Cowboy_01 glad to hear it! I have a few more western classes that I can show and will be doing so in the near future. And in future horse shows I'll video more western classes. So stay tuned!

  • @johanna7096
    @johanna7096 Місяць тому

    the headset is super sad to see... they are often behind the vertical and not breaking at the first vertebra...

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  Місяць тому

      @johanna7096 thanks and a lot of people feel the way you do but that's how they do it at these shows.

    • @johanna7096
      @johanna7096 Місяць тому

      @@MagnificentHorses oh I am not blaming you at all! Just the system

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  Місяць тому

      @ oh yeah, I knew that but thanks for mentioning it.❤️

  • @44hgda
    @44hgda 3 місяці тому +4

    This is amusing to me as an Arab woman. I see our Arabian horses being mixed with other breeds, allowing the West to take pride in them and make them a symbol for themselves😂😂. There is no comparison to authentic Arabian horses with an unmixed lineage, as these horses originate from the Arabian Peninsula, and their true knights are the Arabs.

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  3 місяці тому

      @@44hgda your horses sound amazing and I would love to see them!

  • @tammybusin9610
    @tammybusin9610 20 днів тому +1

    Yes to the western

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  20 днів тому

      @@tammybusin9610 OK great! I have a western class that will be published a week from tomorrow, so it will be on January 11. You can check back then or if you have subscribed with notifications turned on you will be notified when it publishes!

  • @catohcatohcat5969
    @catohcatohcat5969 6 місяців тому +6

    Why are they so over bent? That doesn't seem very natural.

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  6 місяців тому +1

      @@catohcatohcat5969 I don't know but that's the way they do it these days.

    • @catohcatohcat5969
      @catohcatohcat5969 6 місяців тому +4

      @@MagnificentHorses I was looking at another video of a similar class, maybe 30 years earlier. Arabs are lovely, and a pretty ancient breed. With all due respect, I don't feel we are headed in the right direction. (I'm a Shetland/Welsh person, and my opinion is colored by that fact.)

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  6 місяців тому +2

      @@catohcatohcat5969 thanks and I'm really glad to have a Shetland/ Welsh person watching this channel!

    • @maevependragon
      @maevependragon 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@catohcatohcat5969I was in the show world about 30 years ago and this was NOT it. I'm with you...I prefer a more natural look.

    • @catohcatohcat5969
      @catohcatohcat5969 5 місяців тому +1

      @@maevependragon I'm disappointed in some of the trends I see. It was concerning, way back in the 80's, seeing a very extreme type of Arabs become crazy popular, and the price skyrocket. That and other things I saw around that time in other breeds very common in my area really cemented my preference for Shetland, Welsh and AMHR minis. (Not to be confused with AMHA). It didn't bother me a bit that my pony wasn't a massive 18 hh import. As long as we were having a nice time, they enjoyed their job, I wasn't having the vet out once a month for a lameness or skeletal issue.. I felt vindicated for being an adult in the world of ponies. I don't mind being thought a bit odd... In the pony world, I'm kind of a big deal. 😁

  • @blueroan1865
    @blueroan1865 8 місяців тому +2

    So many pretty horses! WP is a hard class for me to watch with the unnatural slowness and low carriage that the QHs do, but this was actually much better than them! I do find that they are behind the bit but the lady's chestnut and the blue shirt grey were the least behind and but didn't place well unfortunately! However the canter didn't look lame like the QH and actually did look like canters so i enjoyed that :) Arabs are amazing!

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  8 місяців тому

      Thanks and I'm glad that overall you enjoyed watching it!

  • @myronschabe
    @myronschabe 5 місяців тому +7

    Why are these horses soo behind the vertical!? If people could actually ride with their seat they could get these horses to rock back and NOT rely on smackin them on the back such that they need to have this choke hold on them.
    I love horses, I love western pleasure in theory, but it always saddens me to see how poorly these horses are ridden overal. I don't know why horses behind the vertical are rewarded.

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  5 місяців тому +1

      @@myronschabe OK, thanks for the input and you're not the only one that feels that way.

    • @shelleyroberts5637
      @shelleyroberts5637 2 місяці тому +3

      Not only the over- collection , the other fad now is four-beating at the lope. The sad thing i have found is the judges reward the new and “improved” ideas influenced by wealthy influential trainers, then everybody emulates that to get rewarded. A complete circle. In my 40 years with the breed the industry went from classic arabians, to saddlebred to quarter horse gaits and styles. Many so unnatural they are accomplished through abuse. Shame.

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  2 місяці тому +1

      @ yeah I am with you on how you feel about all of that.

    • @myronschabe
      @myronschabe 2 місяці тому +1

      @@shelleyroberts5637 Yes, four beat is just, again, a total lack of horsemanship...you can't do a flying change while four beating...it is just a sign of the horse not at all using its body trying to go as slow as possible because people don't know what they are doing. I think the class is too simple...walk, jog, canter, reverse same thing....if they would have to do a bit of testing it would shake it out of this zombie state they strive for.
      Yes, speaking of abuse...I went to an App show about a decade ago ( haven't been to a stock horse show in a long time) and these poor horses back in the stall had there heads tied back with the bit in their mouths, soreing their mouths and draining the life out of them, so they have that wonderful 'zombie' look in the ring! It was freaking sick...I gave one of the woman a dirty look and she threatened me...I told the show office about what was going on and they acted all surprised ( multiple folks doing the same thing)..this was before I had a smart phone cause I would have videoed it nowadays. Of course, in the Appaloosa Journal I saw a big add from this trainer. They will also deny them water so they are zombies....I mean come on folks, this is NOT what it is about!
      True western pleasure is about riding that horse with your seat, and the face you hardly need to touch.

  • @meganwatts1903
    @meganwatts1903 8 місяців тому

    Love western, liberty, and costume

  • @janesmith5871
    @janesmith5871 5 місяців тому +5

    Next step for Arabs----the QH shuffle? It's almost there. This isn't the Arab WP classes I remember. There is nothing natural about it.

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  5 місяців тому

      @@janesmith5871 sounds like things have changed over the years, huh?

    • @aboodkhamees-p5e
      @aboodkhamees-p5e 3 місяці тому +1

      You are so right, one of the main beautiful things about the Arabians is that the head is always up and the tail is also always up. These horses without souls.

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  3 місяці тому

      @@aboodkhamees-p5e thanks but what do you mean that they do not have souls?

    • @aboodkhamees-p5e
      @aboodkhamees-p5e 3 місяці тому +1

      @@MagnificentHorses Arabian horses are indeed known for their dignified appearance, often symbolized by their proud carriage and elegance. Their high-set, arched neck and high tail, combined with their poised, compact build, create a natural display of grace when they walk or move. This "regal" posture, characterized by the high carriage of the tail and their flowing gait, is part of their unique structure and spirit.
      Originally bred by Bedouins in the Arabian Peninsula, these horses developed traits that made them ideal for both war and long-distance travel. Their movements reflect this strength and endurance, but also an inherent elegance that conveys their nobility and heritage
      Horse & Hound
      This majestic movement is often seen in Arabian horses, especially when they perform in show rings or endurance competitions, where their grace and stamina are put on display
      Horse Rookie

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  3 місяці тому

      @@aboodkhamees-p5e OK thanks for all of that info!

  • @lars1480
    @lars1480 6 місяців тому +1

    Why isn’t there a weight limit fore The riders max 90 kg - it’s not okay these Big men ride any horse 🤔

  • @gottasay4766
    @gottasay4766 8 місяців тому +8

    That headset is not natural. Poor beasts.

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  8 місяців тому

      Whether it's natural or not, why do you say "poor beasts"?

    • @TraceyBandel
      @TraceyBandel 8 місяців тому

      UNNATURAL IS WATCHING QUATER HORSE'S WITH THERE HEAT SET ...WHICH I FIND MOST ODD THERE NOSE ALMOST IN THE DIRT ..THE RIDER'S REALLY LOOK UNNATURAL THERE STRAIGHT UP FOWARD LOOKING AT A ERIE HEAD SET SO LOW....AN THAT LOPE IS WHAT VERY WIERD LOOKING... THERE DRAGGING IN THE DIRT UNNATURAL...TO STRANGE!!!!!

  • @songbirds3712
    @songbirds3712 2 місяці тому +1

    This is so painful to watch. The unnatural head carriage is ridiculous.

  • @bastiw3765
    @bastiw3765 5 місяців тому +6

    Horrible! This is nothing but rollkur and has nothing to do with good riding.

  • @aboodkhamees-p5e
    @aboodkhamees-p5e 3 місяці тому +2

    Just stop it, there's nothing Arabian about these horses. just do your search.

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  3 місяці тому

      @@aboodkhamees-p5e I'm, they areregistered purebred Arabian Horses. And anyone who knows Arabians can tell it just from looking at them.

    • @aboodkhamees-p5e
      @aboodkhamees-p5e 3 місяці тому +1

      @@MagnificentHorses Trust me, I know a lot about Arabian Horses, it is our Culture, so please look it up and do your research. The Bedouin people developed the Arabian horse's elegance, loyalty, and strength through selective breeding. These horses were often brought into tents at night, living closely with their human families. This fostered a bond of trust and cooperation that still defines the breed's temperament​ Their distinct physical features-arched necks, high tail carriage, and refined profiles-are not just for aesthetic purposes. These traits were cultivated for practical reasons in desert conditions. For instance, their arched necks and windpipes enhance breathing, critical for long journeys​ Arabian horses’ importance goes beyond their physical characteristics-they hold a dignified place in Arabian culture, symbolizing power, resilience, and grace. Their regal, proud walk and posture reflect the same pride and nobility that Bedouin culture upholds​ This rich history of Arabian horses is why they continue to be revered not only as extraordinary animals but as symbols of heritage and cultural pride. No disrespect I'm only trying to explain. I can't thank you enough for being such a gentleman.

    • @MagnificentHorses
      @MagnificentHorses  3 місяці тому

      @@aboodkhamees-p5e thanks for all of that information. I've read up on the breed and its history and have read about the Bedouins keeping their Arabians in their tents. I'm still perplexed as to why you say that the horses in this class do not have the classic Arabian look. If I did not know what breed or class this was I could absolutely tell that they are purebred Arabians. Can you explain a little bit why you think differently about that?

    • @aboodkhamees-p5e
      @aboodkhamees-p5e 3 місяці тому

      @@MagnificentHorses Head: Arabian horses have a distinctively refined, wedge-shaped head with a broad forehead, large expressive eyes, and small, flared nostrils. Their profile is often described as "dished," meaning it has a slight concave curve.
      Neck: They have a long, arched neck, giving them an elegant and graceful appearance.
      Body: Arabian horses are compact, with a short back and strong, muscular hindquarters. Despite their smaller stature compared to some other breeds (they generally stand 14.1 to 15.1 hands high), they are known for their balance and agility.
      Tail: They are famous for their high-carried tail, which gives them an air of nobility.
      Coat: Their coats are sleek and shiny, with common colors being bay, gray, chestnut, black, and roan.

    • @aboodkhamees-p5e
      @aboodkhamees-p5e 3 місяці тому

      @@MagnificentHorses, their birth certificate should include detailed information about the horse's bloodline, listing the names of its sire (father) and dam (mother), along with several generations of ancestors. This verifies that the horse comes from a purebred Arabian lineage.

  • @ellia1924
    @ellia1924 8 місяців тому +1

    Erstaunlich wie übergewichtig die meisten Reiter sind...