I am truly honored and humbled to have been able to work with the National Cowboy & Western Heritage Museum to make our first on location documentary possible. What better way to launch our series on Native American history!
By a random coincidence, my mom knows Natalie Shirley. I had to send this video to her to confirm it was the same person. 😆 Now I have two reasons to visit the museum.
As someone who lives a couple hours or so away from Cahokia, it’s nice to see Mississippian cultures get some love here. The public schools I went to were actually ok in the grand scheme of things (certainly not anywhere close to the nightmares that so many other US public schools seem to be), and I feel fortunate that they taught us a bit about the mounds and even brought us on a field trip there.
Sadly, education about Native American cultures might become a thing of the past. There is a growing movement to remove material from curriculum that “might inflict distress or shame” on students. The teaching that the Mississippians had a sophisticated civilization turns on its head the notion that colonizers from Europe brought civilization to the savages in N. and S. America. This won’t fit the “patriotic” narrative, just as teaching the history of slavery doesn’t fit it.
Going to a museum virtually -- especially during a pandemic -- is really an amazing service to provide others and I cant' thank you enough for it. You have very astute questions and you really let the exhibits shine; I learned a lot and am so grateful to you for that as well. This turn toward a truly global history is brilliant and makes me love this channel even more.
I live 20 miles down the river from Dickson mounds. There are mounds all up and down the Illinois River. Dickson mounds and Cahokia mounds are the only ones people talk about around here. There's mounds in every county along the Illinois River.
Stunning production and amazing content! I am adding this museum to my list of places to visit for sure. Native American history is so underrated so thanks for bringing this to light!
Thank you so much! This comment has truly made my day and honestly you really must go and I think you’ll really enjoy it. They have a large variety of exhibits that truly capture the very heart of American history before and after the tragedy of the conquest. Plus the have a massive exhibit of all the different Native American houses that have ever existed that we know of and honestly it blew me away.
This episode just Blew me away. America is more than Jamestown and the American Revolution. We have Great Civilizations here like the Mound builders, etc. But I never heard about the Spiro Kingdom. Amazing Nick 👏
I'd rather see the artifacts while the curator speaks off camera. It's more important to see the artifacts than a man in a mask, even if nobody knows what the significance, or use of an object was.
The information especially about the Mini Ice Age starting around 1350 was very helpful in understanding what may have led to the decline of these Native American cities just before the European landfall.
It's interesting to hear Americans publicly admit that there were millions of people on the continent before the destructive, genocidal European arrival. Such honesty is refreshing.
Great lecture! Could have used some close-ups of some of the artifacts being described. The "looters" were actually folks from the Pocola Mining Company, formed specifically in 1933 to ransack the main mound and sell most of the artifacts across the country. (It lost its lease in 1935.) I've made it to the site once. Missed it once because of the poor signage and got there just last Wednesday because it was supposed to be open -- only to find a locked gate. I do hope that someone some day can explain to me the importance of the Pleiades; they just don't seem that stand-outish to me. (Maybe an old supernova?) But, again, this was a great lecture, lotsa good info. No problem with the audio; thanks for trying to keep people safe.
Thanks for watching Gary! I actually have some really detailed close ups that I’m going to release eventually as a bonus and more of a raw episode that I think you’ll enjoy. A lot of it was shown already but I think people will love more of the art and less of me, hahaha. And again thanks for the support!
A lot of native cultures see the Pleiades constellation as symbolic of something or other, but I'm not 100% sure I fully understand a lot of what was written down on the matter. But, it shouldn't be too hard to find some people to explain that one.
Selfish people have always been the bane of historical sights. A Union officer looted Etowah at the end of the Civil War. Some so called archeologists looted mounds throughout the country to sell artifacts to rich New Englanders.@@missourimongoose7643
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It was quite an experience to view that assemblage in person. Spiro Mound was their cultural treasure house. It collected together their important objects spanning centuries . (Millenia if you count those atlatl banner stones.) All of the meaning is beyond deduction. The richness and sophistication remain to impress.
i used to live 6 miles from spiro ok, too bad stupid hillbillies blew up the mounds in depression times, looking for gold. [they found none, but wasted countless artifacts]
Doesn’t that just kill you inside thinking about what has been lost due to greed..... jealous that you lived so close! I grew up in Holdenville before moving to Newcastle and I was born in Ada.
please do a segment on the runestone in heavner ok. i used to search the fields between the mounds and the river,found many arrowheads.@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
I would love to visit this museum and take some time to peruse the beautiful artwork. I was fortunate enough to visit the Makah village archeology dig near Lake Ozette on the Washington coast back in the late 60’s or early 70’s as a boy. I took my children to the tribal museum a few decades later so they could share in the beautiful artifacts. I have a lifelong respect for the native cultures of this continent.
I agree! Though all of the history of the Americas is important, I feel that some are covered more than others and it’s a pleasure to cover the others that aren’t as over saturated.
@@stripeytawney822 the Maya, Inca and Aztecs are covered quite extensively on media platforms quite commonly. You can constantly find videos on them and articles while other groups are often overlooked and ignored kind of like how Egypt and Nubia get the most attention in ancient Africa.
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 Very true. But not "over" saturated. That implies TOO much. I suggest D, all of the above is the answer! That was my point. Over saturated would be spandex clad hotties doing mundane things for big viewcounts.
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 as an indigenous Andean, I respectfully disagree. There is no over saturation of Inca history. In fact, most videos and articles are either inaccurate or exaggerated. European history is lauded whereas the Inca/maya/Azteca are always spoken about with the "savage-rip-your-heart-out" narrative. History is eurocentric. To say that there is enough accurate information on even the most popular of the mesoamerican/south american civilizations is disingenuous.
I went there a few years ago. It was during a week day. I was the only person out there walking the trail around the mounds. I could feel the spirits all around me. It was very strange walking around there knowing it was once a city teaming with people and culture. I hope the state of Oklahoma knows what a treasure this place is. I highly recommend going there.
This is awesome.... I share this channel with any of everyone I know because the quality of information being shared is always exceptional. As a serious history and anthropology buff I salute yall.
Thanks so much for this presentation. I know next to nothing about North American history and culture and i learned a lot today, THIS is why I love your channel!
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The similarity between Native American and Australian Aboriginal beliefs seem to be a bit more than coincidence would account for. The standard "pyramids are the most natural form to build" answer may satisfy architectural curiosity, but falls flat for a creation story with as many shared elements. I'm now even further convinced that the Americas were settled first on the southern continent, and very very much earlier than accepted by acadamia presently. Great work as usual. Looking forward to more "new world" investigations. Thank you.
As always I love your comments and insights. Very thought provoking and as we learn new things every day you never know what they may find! And as always thanks for watching and for showing your support!
@Lightbulb Man The primary bit that caught my attention was the Pleiades star system in conjunction with creation. The twins are very much a common theme in mythologies from various regions, and would more fit what you allude to. Handbags. Not sure a specific star system as an origin falls into coincidence however. I'm also not using this single reference to build an idea, but rather fitting that minutea into what I allready see in the broader context.
That was great. I would liked to have seen the drawings from the 1600s a little more, but I'm sure I could just look them up for my self haha. Thanks for another great video Nick, much appreciated.
Yes! I wish we had taken more time and really got up close to each one. Didn’t realize we had missed the opportunity until later. I highly recommend looking at them if you go. Truly awesome!
I'm from southeast Missouri and there is a Mississippian site behind my dad's house, bunch of pictures on a rock bluff supposedly a shrine to the underwater panther
Slightly adjacent to the inexplicable vanishing the Mississipian civilization, you might find interested to do a deep dive into the New Madrid event of 1811
I've been following the #Cowboy since the pandemic started, and because of that I've been sad that I can't get to Oklahoma to see the Spiro exhibit. This is about the best thing you could've put up!!!!
Cool video glad to see indigenous histories of the americas being talked about, its a deep and highly fascinating history that unfortunately gets ignored all too often.
Very nice to see some more about those often neglected cultures. What I think is interesting is that their art actually reminds me a lot of Mesoamerican Art. Probably some mutual influence there?
There was considerable trade and migration from the Great Lakes, SE US, Yucatan and even S. America. More than simple canoes. There was a sea trading civilization that existed beneath the Yucatan Peninsula.
INCREDIBLE content! The timeline of cultures converging is illuminating indeed. Thank you so much for your passion in making a video like this. Namaste, Susan
I grew up and still live here, awesome to see this on UA-cam when this town is so insignificant now, there are a lot of locally known secrets here that only a couple of people know, stuff that most people wouldn’t ever consider to be real.
So as well as a Greek sounding name, they were also a Greek like City-State too? Very interesting. You mentioned the comparisons of European and Spiro art depiction of River Art. Anglo-Saxon and Old Norse Wood Art design are often similar to Polynesian/Maori wood art designs too. Worth looking into . . .
It seems to me that different peoples all go through similar stages of development in various aspects of culture, even though they may be thousands of years apart in time. People are people, and do the same sorts of things, with variations mostly according to local circumstances. Hunter-gatherer societies tend to have similar social structures and patterns of behavior to each other, as is true with herders and farmers. The level of technological development of a society also appears to directly influence social structure and behavior as well.
It is possible that there is a Greek connection, since Greek Minyans (>mining) and Minoans are said to have dug up copper mines in Lake Superior. Lucianus refers to Greek colonies over the great ocean in “on the face appearing on the moon” work. Some artifacts look astonishingly Mycenaean.
Argh,.. that was both fascinating and painful. Ignorance and inability to comprehend does not equal the existence of imaginary beings. The artifacts themselves are gorgeous though, but the religious perspective makes it all doubtful interpretation. What do the natives themselves have to say about all this?
The natives have nothing to say, because the Mississippian culture died out long ago, and those who replaced them knew nothing about them, according to white travelers who asked local natives about the mounds in the 19th century.
We see those round shell pendants a lot. They usually have two holes on the right side of the image. I've always wondered why the image was supposed to hang sideways? And it dawned on me; they're not pendants, they're belt buckles. Rodeo cowboys still use belt buckles for trophies, now cast in silver.
There's so much history I don't know yet, and this was one of those things I hadn't heard of. Wonderful! And so fascinating. Thank you so very much for your work
I live down the river from Dickson mounds museum on the illinois river. There are documented mounds all up and down the Illinois river. Every county has one somwhere. Illinois was a thriving area.
After watching both episodes my question is this ; since the religious hold on America is radically changing are we to begin to feel comfortable with the thought that there was an Ancient religious platform and that being without a " Formal religious way of thought such as the one brought by the Europeans " Are we going to be alright " I hope I'm expressing my thoughts clearly , a response from someone is much appreciated.
Nice I have always interested in learning more about thr Mississippian people since I first read about them when I was learning about Hernando de Soto’s march.
I really like what the curator said it's something that I found annoying with history, the pigeon-hole aspect and what mainstream history has done to the original people is a crime against the history of our collective human existence
During this time there was virtually literal disease in North American societies which is really interesting considering South America was having a vicious struggle with salmonella and Tuberculosis.
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 not finding evidence of disease doesn't necessarily mean the society was without disease, considering the lack of archeological study and looting. I would find it difficult to believe that there was no outbreaks of Hantavirus or anything in this society. It's an unrealistic expectation. You make a very interesting point, especially if one believes there was likely strong commercial ties between north and south American tribes. I'll be nerding out hard researching that now!
The River of Dreams has been a good gateway message to lead humans to higher spiritual truths. It's an alternative to the stairway or ladder interpretation, with less obvious barriers to advancement
Very interesting and educational this video, it has spiked my interest, though I must mention this: The camera!!! OMG, everytime going diagonal and so fast,,, 16:48 that is the ONLY info about the Spiro... Please take the video in-front of the pieces and give it a few seconds, it is not a panoramic of a scenery.
So glad to find this. Thank you. I wish the camera didn't rush past things. So fast it's blurry. Hope you re make this video but glad I got an introduction.
That statue of morning-star, the red one sitting cross legged with the human head earrings, actually came from Cahokia originally and it was transported to Spiro during a Cahokian diaspora sometime after 1200AD. It really makes you wonder: why Spiro? The two places are quite far apart if you travel primarily by canoe. What’s so important about this place?
An amazing video on a most intruiging civilisation. Sadly it shares the precolumbian-misfortune of being a beautiful and advanced bronze age civilisation in the 16th century...
The illusion of togetrherness - oneness or communism, is based on the fallacies that one life is all you get and that everyone IS God, not that souls were created in the image of God, the first soul. Nothing could me more wrong or unhealthy for the future of the human species. The average souls incarnated in a human vessel right now are very young, in their first tens of human incarnations, let alone all the other species you might have occupied before humanity took the spotlight. If you try to democratize the truth, you will end up with a world ruled by the most deluded souls on the planet - i.e. the world we are experiencing today. We have the technology to identify wiser, more experienced souls to lead us, if we choose to use it, and that tech is neither communism, capitalism, globalism, nationalism, or any dogmatic religion or ideology
I am truly honored and humbled to have been able to work with the National Cowboy & Western Heritage Museum to make our first on location documentary possible. What better way to launch our series on Native American history!
Why in the world do you have to do this show in a mask ??? That's not a good look for being credible . I think.
What sort of future docs you considering or have in the works??
By a random coincidence, my mom knows Natalie Shirley. I had to send this video to her to confirm it was the same person. 😆 Now I have two reasons to visit the museum.
Will you have any Native tribal speakers? Will you get into the oral traditions, such as have survived ?
This is amazing and so interesting. 💕 from 🇬🇧
As someone who lives a couple hours or so away from Cahokia, it’s nice to see Mississippian cultures get some love here. The public schools I went to were actually ok in the grand scheme of things (certainly not anywhere close to the nightmares that so many other US public schools seem to be), and I feel fortunate that they taught us a bit about the mounds and even brought us on a field trip there.
Currently in the process of getting permission to do what we did at the exhibit at Spiro mounds as well. This is truly exciting!
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 I cant wait! I hope you start it at the Arch.
I live a short ride from aztalan...one of their northernmost cities
Sadly, education about Native American cultures might become a thing of the past. There is a growing movement to remove material from curriculum that “might inflict distress or shame” on students. The teaching that the Mississippians had a sophisticated civilization turns on its head the notion that colonizers from Europe brought civilization to the savages in N. and S. America. This won’t fit the “patriotic” narrative, just as teaching the history of slavery doesn’t fit it.
Going to a museum virtually -- especially during a pandemic -- is really an amazing service to provide others and I cant' thank you enough for it. You have very astute questions and you really let the exhibits shine; I learned a lot and am so grateful to you for that as well.
This turn toward a truly global history is brilliant and makes me love this channel even more.
This comment has truly just made my day, thank you for taking the time to enjoy what we do!
I live near Dickson Mounds, a Mississippian village and burial mounds. It's fascinating and no one talks about it. Love this!
Same here, grew up in Spiro. Learned just a little about the mounds. Wish we'd known more about them.
Thanks for watching! And how awesome! It’s my goal to eventually cover many of these awesome sites!
I live 20 miles down the river from Dickson mounds. There are mounds all up and down the Illinois River. Dickson mounds and Cahokia mounds are the only ones people talk about around here. There's mounds in every county along the Illinois River.
Visited Dickson Bounds when a Child 1950s and it was still in full display.
Stunning production and amazing content! I am adding this museum to my list of places to visit for sure. Native American history is so underrated so thanks for bringing this to light!
Thank you so much! This comment has truly made my day and honestly you really must go and I think you’ll really enjoy it. They have a large variety of exhibits that truly capture the very heart of American history before and after the tragedy of the conquest.
Plus the have a massive exhibit of all the different Native American houses that have ever existed that we know of and honestly it blew me away.
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This man is an excellent and well-spoken guest. I love his wise and holistic explanations. Well done!
Yes! Dr. Singleton is awesome and we had some great off camera conversations. Can’t wait to talk with him again.
Agreed, but stop saying drawling.
Yes … and the way he repeatedly pronounces proboscis as ‘’probiscus’ is shocking.@@screwityourselferRedneckEnginr
This episode just Blew me away. America is more than Jamestown and the American Revolution. We have Great Civilizations here like the Mound builders, etc. But I never heard about the Spiro Kingdom. Amazing Nick 👏
You’re so right Diego! I couldn’t agree more, thank you for watching!
I'd rather see the artifacts while the curator speaks off camera. It's more important to see the artifacts than a man in a mask, even if nobody knows what the significance, or use of an object was.
Still entertaining and informative nonetheless
I wonder much the same about his mask.
Exactly what I was thinking
Absolutely
I know right 🤔🙄😁
The information especially about the Mini Ice Age starting around 1350 was very helpful in understanding what may have led to the decline of these Native American cities just before the European landfall.
It's interesting to hear Americans publicly admit that there were millions of people on the continent before the destructive, genocidal European arrival. Such honesty is refreshing.
Great lecture! Could have used some close-ups of some of the artifacts being described. The "looters" were actually folks from the Pocola Mining Company, formed specifically in 1933 to ransack the main mound and sell most of the artifacts across the country. (It lost its lease in 1935.) I've made it to the site once. Missed it once because of the poor signage and got there just last Wednesday because it was supposed to be open -- only to find a locked gate. I do hope that someone some day can explain to me the importance of the Pleiades; they just don't seem that stand-outish to me. (Maybe an old supernova?) But, again, this was a great lecture, lotsa good info. No problem with the audio; thanks for trying to keep people safe.
Thanks for watching Gary! I actually have some really detailed close ups that I’m going to release eventually as a bonus and more of a raw episode that I think you’ll enjoy. A lot of it was shown already but I think people will love more of the art and less of me, hahaha. And again thanks for the support!
A lot of native cultures see the Pleiades constellation as symbolic of something or other, but I'm not 100% sure I fully understand a lot of what was written down on the matter. But, it shouldn't be too hard to find some people to explain that one.
It's still happening, a mound was taken out a few years ago in fenton Missouri to make way for a freaking walmart
Your right gary about the mining company
Selfish people have always been the bane of historical sights. A Union officer looted Etowah at the end of the Civil War. Some so called archeologists looted mounds throughout the country to sell artifacts to rich New Englanders.@@missourimongoose7643
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It was quite an experience to view that assemblage in person. Spiro Mound was their cultural treasure house. It collected together their important objects spanning centuries . (Millenia if you count those atlatl banner stones.) All of the meaning is beyond deduction. The richness and sophistication remain to impress.
I couldn’t agree more. I honestly can’t wait to hopefully do a documentary at the mounds themselves one day!
i used to live 6 miles from spiro ok, too bad stupid hillbillies blew up the mounds in depression times, looking for gold. [they found none, but wasted countless artifacts]
Doesn’t that just kill you inside thinking about what has been lost due to greed..... jealous that you lived so close! I grew up in Holdenville before moving to Newcastle and I was born in Ada.
please do a segment on the runestone in heavner ok. i used to search the fields between the mounds and the river,found many arrowheads.@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449
You’re one of my favorite UA-cam channels. Never miss an episode.
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I would love to visit this museum and take some time to peruse the beautiful artwork.
I was fortunate enough to visit the Makah village archeology dig near Lake Ozette on the Washington coast back in the late 60’s or early 70’s as a boy. I took my children to the tribal museum a few decades later so they could share in the beautiful artifacts. I have a lifelong respect for the native cultures of this continent.
I highly recommend it! The art and artifacts are amazing and it is truly a wonderful experience.
I love hearing about North American cultures beyond the Aztecs and Mayans. We hear about those a fair bit, after all.
I agree! Though all of the history of the Americas is important, I feel that some are covered more than others and it’s a pleasure to cover the others that aren’t as over saturated.
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Uh, over saturated?
Weird that you see oversaturation, considering how little there is compared to "classic" euro.
@@stripeytawney822 the Maya, Inca and Aztecs are covered quite extensively on media platforms quite commonly. You can constantly find videos on them and articles while other groups are often overlooked and ignored kind of like how Egypt and Nubia get the most attention in ancient Africa.
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Very true.
But not "over" saturated. That implies TOO much. I suggest D, all of the above is the answer!
That was my point.
Over saturated would be spandex clad hotties doing mundane things for big viewcounts.
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 as an indigenous Andean, I respectfully disagree. There is no over saturation of Inca history. In fact, most videos and articles are either inaccurate or exaggerated. European history is lauded whereas the Inca/maya/Azteca are always spoken about with the "savage-rip-your-heart-out" narrative. History is eurocentric. To say that there is enough accurate information on even the most popular of the mesoamerican/south american civilizations is disingenuous.
I went there a few years ago. It was during a week day. I was the only person out there walking the trail around the mounds. I could feel the spirits all around me. It was very strange walking around there knowing it was once a city teaming with people and culture. I hope the state of Oklahoma knows what a treasure this place is. I highly recommend going there.
Definitely on our list! Loved reading your comment, you truly appreciate the past and what it has left us today.
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 I appreciate that 🙏
This is awesome.... I share this channel with any of everyone I know because the quality of information being shared is always exceptional. As a serious history and anthropology buff I salute yall.
Thanks Jax! This comment has made my night and your recommendations to others is truly heartfelt, thank you so much!
Thanks so much for this presentation. I know next to nothing about North American history and culture and
i learned a lot today, THIS is why I love your channel!
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@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 me too, thoughtful exhibit.
@@jackarnon5483 thanks for watching Jack! We intend to do much more with them if they allow!
The similarity between Native American and Australian Aboriginal beliefs seem to be a bit more than coincidence would account for. The standard "pyramids are the most natural form to build" answer may satisfy architectural curiosity, but falls flat for a creation story with as many shared elements. I'm now even further convinced that the Americas were settled first on the southern continent, and very very much earlier than accepted by acadamia presently.
Great work as usual. Looking forward to more "new world" investigations. Thank you.
As always I love your comments and insights. Very thought provoking and as we learn new things every day you never know what they may find! And as always thanks for watching and for showing your support!
@Lightbulb Man The primary bit that caught my attention was the Pleiades star system in conjunction with creation. The twins are very much a common theme in mythologies from various regions, and would more fit what you allude to. Handbags. Not sure a specific star system as an origin falls into coincidence however. I'm also not using this single reference to build an idea, but rather fitting that minutea into what I allready see in the broader context.
I appreciate his passion about what he has studied and how he honors the indigenous people. So glad I learned about this
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That was great. I would liked to have seen the drawings from the 1600s a little more, but I'm sure I could just look them up for my self haha. Thanks for another great video Nick, much appreciated.
Yes! I wish we had taken more time and really got up close to each one. Didn’t realize we had missed the opportunity until later. I highly recommend looking at them if you go. Truly awesome!
Thanks for watching!
I'm from southeast Missouri and there is a Mississippian site behind my dad's house, bunch of pictures on a rock bluff supposedly a shrine to the underwater panther
Slightly adjacent to the inexplicable vanishing the Mississipian civilization, you might find interested to do a deep dive into the New Madrid event of 1811
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"Days travel" was more important than distance. Easy to move stuff via sled in the mines up North in the winter. 😉
I've been following the #Cowboy since the pandemic started, and because of that I've been sad that I can't get to Oklahoma to see the Spiro exhibit. This is about the best thing you could've put up!!!!
I have a bonus piece coming that is nothing but art! Hope you enjoy!
Cool video glad to see indigenous histories of the americas being talked about, its a deep and highly fascinating history that unfortunately gets ignored all too often.
Great video! I'd love to see more on the original Native American cultures
We have many more coming! Thanks for watching!!
INCREDIBLE RESEARCH. GREAT ARCHEOLOGICAL WORK..
SPIRO, TRUE AMERICAN HISTORY.!!!
I absolutely love this content I learn more from this man than I do from my history class in school
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It's great learning about the advanced civilizations in ancient North America. You tend to think North America Indians only were nomadic
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Very glad and a little surprised you did this. I just learned about Spiro and its importance. Can't wait to watch soon.
I’m thrilled that we were able to surprise you and I hope you enjoy it! Thanks for watching!
Very nice to see some more about those often neglected cultures. What I think is interesting is that their art actually reminds me a lot of Mesoamerican Art. Probably some mutual influence there?
There was considerable trade and migration from the Great Lakes, SE US, Yucatan and even S. America. More than simple canoes. There was a sea trading civilization that existed beneath the Yucatan Peninsula.
INCREDIBLE content! The timeline of cultures converging is illuminating indeed. Thank you so much for your passion in making a video like this. Namaste, Susan
Thanks for watching Revolution! Truly means the world and I couldn't agree more!
I went to HS in Poteau. We would go to the mounds often. Great job!!
This episode is amazing! That museum is amazing and so is the story of Spiro!!!!! Thank you!
Thanks for watching and for showing your support! The museum and its awesome staff are truly phenomenal.
I lůV hearing about new cultures and peoples that I have never heard about before!- ThX
Thanks for watching and I feel the same way!
And our culture today will likely be studied 1000's of years from now. They will
say " They are so unique, rare, and look at the artifacts they made."
@@philenealvarado5008 • "we think they worshipped a god made of plastic..?"
Fabulous subject and information. Lame "Hollywood" fake Indian music kind of cheapens the video in my opinion.
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I grew up and still live here, awesome to see this on UA-cam when this town is so insignificant now, there are a lot of locally known secrets here that only a couple of people know, stuff that most people wouldn’t ever consider to be real.
One of the best historical documentary channels I have ever come across
So as well as a Greek sounding name, they were also a Greek like City-State too? Very interesting. You mentioned the comparisons of European and Spiro art depiction of River Art. Anglo-Saxon and Old Norse Wood Art design are often similar to Polynesian/Maori wood art designs too. Worth looking into . . .
It seems to me that different peoples all go through similar stages of development in various aspects of culture, even though they may be thousands of years apart in time. People are people, and do the same sorts of things, with variations mostly according to local circumstances. Hunter-gatherer societies tend to have similar social structures and patterns of behavior to each other, as is true with herders and farmers. The level of technological development of a society also appears to directly influence social structure and behavior as well.
It is possible that there is a Greek connection, since Greek Minyans (>mining) and Minoans are said to have dug up copper mines in Lake Superior. Lucianus refers to Greek colonies over the great ocean in “on the face appearing on the moon” work. Some artifacts look astonishingly Mycenaean.
You do realize Spiro is a modern name given to the site
Rest in Heaven Buddy. You were always so polite at Walmart I pray for your wife and daughter's strength.
Argh,.. that was both fascinating and painful. Ignorance and inability to comprehend does not equal the existence of imaginary beings. The artifacts themselves are gorgeous though, but the religious perspective makes it all doubtful interpretation. What do the natives themselves have to say about all this?
The natives have nothing to say, because the Mississippian culture died out long ago, and those who replaced them knew nothing about them, according to white travelers who asked local natives about the mounds in the 19th century.
Love the topic but I like the museum tour style too. Maybe something that can be replicated in the future?
I absolutely hope so! Thanks for watching!
Dr. Singleton is the goat
We see those round shell pendants a lot. They usually have two holes on the right side of the image. I've always wondered why the image was supposed to hang sideways? And it dawned on me; they're not pendants, they're belt buckles. Rodeo cowboys still use belt buckles for trophies, now cast in silver.
Woolaroc near Bartlesville at one time displayed Spiro artifacts.
A magical place.
Thanks for making this. Would love more on the Mississippians.
I think we can deliver more for sure! Thanks for watching!
There's so much history I don't know yet, and this was one of those things I hadn't heard of. Wonderful! And so fascinating. Thank you so very much for your work
And we are still here!
I live down the river from Dickson mounds museum on the illinois river. There are documented mounds all up and down the Illinois river. Every county has one somwhere. Illinois was a thriving area.
The exhibit was incredible!
After watching both episodes my question is this ; since the religious hold on America is radically changing are we to begin to feel comfortable with the thought that there was an Ancient religious platform and that being without a " Formal religious way of thought such as the one brought by the Europeans " Are we going to be alright " I hope I'm expressing my thoughts clearly , a response from someone is much appreciated.
Nice I have always interested in learning more about thr Mississippian people since I first read about them when I was learning about Hernando de Soto’s march.
It’s a fascinating subject and honestly I can’t wait to see what archaeology will tell us in the future!
U might want to send this video to Rick Santorum.
Honestly I don’t think he’d be able to comprehend it, to many facts. Hahaha.
Miss the old times in Spiro. Still have family there. Redwines , the Scantlings, hi, Uncle Milton!
Love from India, your channel is amazing
Thanks Alan! Appreciate the support, hello from Oklahoma USA!
I really like what the curator said it's something that I found annoying with history, the pigeon-hole aspect and what mainstream history has done to the original people is a crime against the history of our collective human existence
Very interesting and enlightening 😳 thank you very much 👃
Thank you for watching!
"free of disease"? Wow, this really was a utopia, the first and only civilization to completely overcome disease. Truly unbelievable lol
During this time there was virtually literal disease in North American societies which is really interesting considering South America was having a vicious struggle with salmonella and Tuberculosis.
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 not finding evidence of disease doesn't necessarily mean the society was without disease, considering the lack of archeological study and looting. I would find it difficult to believe that there was no outbreaks of Hantavirus or anything in this society. It's an unrealistic expectation. You make a very interesting point, especially if one believes there was likely strong commercial ties between north and south American tribes. I'll be nerding out hard researching that now!
Great work as always
Thanks Dennis! Appreciate the support!
Saddly it gives a more accurate idea of what was destroy ...
Truth!
Bloody global cooling!
The River of Dreams has been a good gateway message to lead humans to higher spiritual truths. It's an alternative to the stairway or ladder interpretation, with less obvious barriers to advancement
So happy to see this. Can’t wait to visit Cahokia on my next road trip.
Thanks for watching and I’d love to go there one day myself!
This is super awesome I love learning about native cultures thank you so much
Thank you, this was satisfying to watch.
Wow i never knew this ...THANKYOU
Most welcome Fonzi and thanks for watching!!!
Violence is NOT just human nature. But unfortunately the violent tend to be drawn to positions of power and authority.
Why pan over pictures when the focus never pauses? I would've loved to see the works on the hall wall.
This is really cool; i just love museums! I be adding this one to the list that i want to go see.
Thanks!
I really had to subscribe to this amazing educative channel. Wicked, thumbs up
Thanks Robert! We really appreciate your support and for finding us worthy of your time! You’re awesome!
Very interesting and educational this video, it has spiked my interest, though I must mention this: The camera!!! OMG, everytime going diagonal and so fast,,, 16:48 that is the ONLY info about the Spiro... Please take the video in-front of the pieces and give it a few seconds, it is not a panoramic of a scenery.
Awesome, thank you!!
Most welcome, thanks for watching Olina!
"They were performing a ritual to re-start time..." I wonder where their souls went, if they were re-incarnated, if they went to a parallel reality. ?
Fantastic presentation! What a knowledge and passion from Dr.Singleton!
So glad to find this. Thank you. I wish the camera didn't rush past things. So fast it's blurry. Hope you re make this video but glad I got an introduction.
Is this exhibit still at the National Cowboy & Western Heritage Museum?
Awesome Video.
Thanks Spiros!
Amazing
That statue of morning-star, the red one sitting cross legged with the human head earrings, actually came from Cahokia originally and it was transported to Spiro during a Cahokian diaspora sometime after 1200AD. It really makes you wonder: why Spiro? The two places are quite far apart if you travel primarily by canoe. What’s so important about this place?
It was a repository for valuable things comparable to the Louvre in France.
Great work, man.
Thank you so much! And thanks for watching!
I learned a lot today thanks
Good video
Thank you for watching!
Dude this museum is sick
It really is awesome man! Just wait until our history of the Cowboy EP!
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 But I can't wait 👉👈
More please!
Absolutely will do!
Thank You
Most welcome! Thanks for watching!
An amazing video on a most intruiging civilisation. Sadly it shares the precolumbian-misfortune of being a beautiful and advanced bronze age civilisation in the 16th century...
Or so we're told. So his story tells
The mississippi river is the world's largest water "freeway"
The name sounds so fake. But it isnt.
I was think the same thing!
It is amazing how so many people have never heard of Mississippian Culture | Civilization. We hope to change that!
Doesn't sound fake to me. Lived in Spiro lots of years. Family goes back a good 100 years there.
Wow i wish i could have seen all these together! Where was this exhibition held?
But did you go to Frontier City?
More times then I can remember, hahaha.
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 it's a blast, right!!
The illusion of togetrherness - oneness or communism, is based on the fallacies that one life is all you get and that everyone IS God, not that souls were created in the image of God, the first soul. Nothing could me more wrong or unhealthy for the future of the human species. The average souls incarnated in a human vessel right now are very young, in their first tens of human incarnations, let alone all the other species you might have occupied before humanity took the spotlight. If you try to democratize the truth, you will end up with a world ruled by the most deluded souls on the planet - i.e. the world we are experiencing today. We have the technology to identify wiser, more experienced souls to lead us, if we choose to use it, and that tech is neither communism, capitalism, globalism, nationalism, or any dogmatic religion or ideology
amazing
When it comes to Italy what did they make pizza or ravioli with before the discovery of the tomato? Or France and their french fries with the potato?
24:44 Algebra was practiced in Egypt 2,000 years before Baghdad.