which handlebars are best for your 90s bike? comparison & review

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  • Опубліковано 6 лют 2023
  • just got the new MOTHBAR from magic components and wanted to do a comparison review of the few bars that i have. hopefully it helps you decide which bar is best for your commuter , gravel , or mountain bike!
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  • @X0oSCOTTo0X
    @X0oSCOTTo0X 5 місяців тому +7

    Nitto Albatross 1:12
    Suzuki DRZ 400 2:29
    Wormbar 4:19
    Wald 828/898 5:34
    Blygo Moto 7:18
    Mothbar 8:52

  • @johnbrann75
    @johnbrann75 Рік тому +30

    Very informative. As I'm getting later in my 60's I've migrated from drops to straight to risers with moderate sweep. The key is to keep riding in as comfortable position as possible and changing the bars is a good way of doing it and not too expensive.

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому

      Cheers mate, yep changing the bars is a great to reinvigorate your bike and cycling! Saves the back too haha !

  • @jawjuk
    @jawjuk Рік тому +5

    Great video! Really helps show the shapes of bars from all angles - far better than any pictures. And the nostalgia from the retro v-brake levers was awesome; those M600s take me BACK!

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому

      Hell ya glad you found it helpful!! Hahah yes those m600 classic! Cheers !

  • @jp93309
    @jp93309 Рік тому +12

    Bro spot on ride characteristics of those bars. Whiteboard session worked really well for illustrating the differences.

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому +2

      Thank you man haha I had to think about it for a bit, but it worked out in the end! Cheers

  • @user-pq9fp7el3v
    @user-pq9fp7el3v 2 місяці тому +3

    I'm now 63, and have severe arthritis in neck and lower back. I have 'higher' bars now and things are better; am still looking to improve my bars; this video is very helpfull/informative. Many thanks for sharing your knowlede.

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  2 місяці тому

      That’s awesome !! Glad I was able to help. Keep on riding !! Cheers

    • @franc1658
      @franc1658 28 днів тому

      Try out redshifts suspension stem if you can, may help reduce a bit of the ache at the front. Not sure where you’re based but decathlon also sells quite a cheap suspension seatpost that might slightly take the sting out the saddle

  • @toastyrides
    @toastyrides Рік тому +5

    The Moth bars 😍 yaaaas, sound so rad. Love how companies are making some wide, but not too wide, bars with sweep! 👏 ❤

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому

      Yessss sooo good!! Def glad they are being made !! 😊😊😊

  • @cliffe02
    @cliffe02 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video, very informative and just what I have been looking for plus the whiteboard illustrations were excellent, Merci.

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  2 місяці тому

      Awesome glad it was helpful ! Thank you very much 😊

  • @peterharrer3261
    @peterharrer3261 Рік тому +3

    This was a great idea because you have an eye for bars that others overlook, such as the Wald longhorns and motocross bars. And your builds prove that cruiser bars look great and feel great on mtbs and road bikes alike. I've installed them on mine based on your examples. The graph at the end was inspired.

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому

      Thank you Peter! Glad it was helpful! Changing the bars definitely influences the way the bike rides, and also a nice way to refresh an old bike 👍

  • @viviennepatterson5950
    @viviennepatterson5950 11 місяців тому +3

    Just come back to this video as I’m picking new bars for my bike. Super helpful

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  11 місяців тому

      Niceee glad it was helpful! Cheers 😊

  • @ForGlory1
    @ForGlory1 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for this. Especially the drawn examples.

  • @cristiansuarez5711
    @cristiansuarez5711 Рік тому +5

    Super awesome overview. Keep them coming. I'm trying to bring life into my 94 Stumpjumper

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому

      Thanks man I’ll do my best ! Hell ya the stumper will be sick!

  • @blaketnewman
    @blaketnewman Рік тому +2

    Awesome video, v informative 👍🏻 thank you Gary

  • @cradleofphill
    @cradleofphill Рік тому

    Thanks again for a great vid, I'm trying to decide what bars to put on my diamondback to set up as a bit of an all-rounder.
    I like your blygo bars and the bmx stem, I might give that set up a go.
    This helped alot so thanks again.

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому +1

      Nice man! I think that will be great, works well on my bike! No worries at all, glad I could help, cheers !

  • @benvg
    @benvg Рік тому +1

    Really good vid, been thinking about going to a more relaxed bar than my straight and there's some sweet examples here to look into. Cheers!

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому +1

      No worries man glad you like the vid! Hope it helps you to find something you like!

  • @jmdza
    @jmdza Місяць тому +1

    Great video, covered so much detail

  • @lukeoverthehill
    @lukeoverthehill 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video helped confirm my decision!

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  10 місяців тому

      Thank you my dude ! Glad I could help

  • @gabemartin234
    @gabemartin234 7 місяців тому +2

    Incredibly helpful

  • @user-es6bo2qn7i
    @user-es6bo2qn7i Місяць тому +1

    thanks for the explanation on these different bars. I'm trying out the vo crazy bars on a 80s trek 830 and i like it a lot. not as much backsweep as the losco or albatross, plus forward facing nubbins for a "hoods" position for more aero. theyre 31.8 so im using a quill-to-threadless adapter.
    riding 21.1 quill bullmoose bars on another '81 schwinn le tour. so fun. i had bought them to try on the trek, but they came in a different quill diameter, that happened to fit the schwinn road bike, and it all worked out.

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Місяць тому +1

      Nice ! Both those bars around good. Also good to have the different hand position options 👍 cheers !

  • @paulstrong2210
    @paulstrong2210 Рік тому +2

    I clicked because I was interested in the handlebars, but your stems are somehow better. That Cook Brother's Racing stem is a stunner.

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому

      hahah cheers mate, bit of a stem addict myself, got a few others not featured here haha - the cook dog bone is pretty rare! cheers

  • @CharlieMetcalf
    @CharlieMetcalf Рік тому +2

    Mothbars look AWESOME!

  • @ashpunting
    @ashpunting Рік тому +1

    It was good to learn the names of these different styles of handlebars I am a bit of a handlebar Fanatic so I will be saving This video for reference Gary 😀

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому

      Hahah another handlebar fanatic just like me!! 😂😂😂 glad I’m not the only one 🤣

    • @ashpunting
      @ashpunting Рік тому

      @garys.projects yes I am they can make you feel like you're on a different bike just by changing the bars or I might watch a video and I'll change my mind again I have got three bikes so there are lots of changes 🤔

  • @Saints66
    @Saints66 Рік тому +2

    Great content - moth bar and stem is pretty wild..

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому

      Cheers mate!! Haha yeah they are as wild in real life as they look in the vid ! V cool

  • @Charlemagne1367
    @Charlemagne1367 Рік тому +4

    Good comparison. Just installed moto style bars, bmx bars actually, with a 9" rise on a 90" trekking bike and tilted a fair amount towards the seat. Looks wacky, but boy is it relaxed. I struggle with shoulder injuries so hoping this will solve it. Now on to electrifying the bike 😁

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому

      Awesome dude!! Yep there’s so rule, the only rule is that if you’re happy with it! Enjoy man

  • @derekhobbs1102
    @derekhobbs1102 Рік тому +2

    I have bars similar to the Albatross on my old Shogun, and I found them easier to aero tuck than the straight factory bars.

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому +1

      Ooo nice ! Makes sense I guess the hand position is almost like drop bars but higher

  • @JohnMFlores
    @JohnMFlores 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for this. Looking for bars for my Gary Fisher Hoo Koo

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  10 місяців тому +1

      Hell ya no worries man, what did you decide on ?

  • @BufordDuckworth
    @BufordDuckworth 16 днів тому +1

    Mine are a bit like the worm but with more sweep and rise. Perfect for upright positioning on my comuter.

  • @UnhingedHarry
    @UnhingedHarry Рік тому +1

    Fan of the quill adapter by the look of it. I like them too.

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому +1

      Ahhh yeah! Have it on one of the bikes here , cool be able to put bmx stem + moto bars on 👍

  • @Coastal_Cruzer
    @Coastal_Cruzer 5 місяців тому +2

    Just recently started experimenting with a set of inverted cruiser bars with db levers. It's surprisingly comfy and effective, only complaint is I need much thicker grips

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  5 місяців тому

      Ahh nice I always wanted to try that but the drop it’s a bit much for me , maybe when I find a tall stem. Cheers!

  • @palashchoudhury5565
    @palashchoudhury5565 10 місяців тому +1

    ThankQ

  • @lilbtyt7928
    @lilbtyt7928 Рік тому +3

    I’ve found 2 of those moto bars for like 20 each at flea markets. I like them and the look.

  • @FinelyChoppedHeaf
    @FinelyChoppedHeaf Рік тому +2

    Hitted 'em with the whiteboard Prof. Garry lesson in session

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому +1

      Bout to break out the white board so I can show you the correct way to spell my name 🤣🤣🤣 cheers homie!!

  • @Mash3OH3
    @Mash3OH3 Рік тому +1

    I like the cruiser looking bars

  • @genosackmpls6096
    @genosackmpls6096 Рік тому +1

    love the moths!

  • @myvicariouslife4012
    @myvicariouslife4012 Рік тому +1

    I went with velo orange klunker. I mainly commute and want comfort over rapid response

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому

      Ahhh nice, I haven’t tried those yet but they look like they have decent sweep and look strong

  • @Sekhmet6697
    @Sekhmet6697 6 місяців тому +1

    An alternative to the Nitto Albatross, which because of being Japanese can be difficult to get a hold of and expensive, are the Soma Oxford, which are an almost exact copy.

  • @jeffreyrule8143
    @jeffreyrule8143 Рік тому +1

    Thank u.

  • @djkenny1202
    @djkenny1202 Рік тому +1

    Worm Bar, Moth Bar, or Maybe Wald 828 will be considered for the MB-1 fun build. I usually get Albatross on my bikes. So comfy, but since it’s mostly going to be a quicker bike that Ill take off road a good portion.. Worm Bar or the others :) Great Job!!

  • @Koofumhead
    @Koofumhead 8 місяців тому +1

    PLEASE!!
    Gary, can you post the link for the stem that the Wald 828 bars were mounted on. Orange painted frame, 4th on the line up.
    I want to build a 26" cruiser with it.
    Please mate?

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  8 місяців тому

      Hahah I got mine second hand so I don’t have a link it’s a sakae mts100 you can try search on eBay/ fb marketplace etc

  • @whateverthisis3954
    @whateverthisis3954 11 місяців тому +1

    What bars would you recommend with a crust clydesdale fork? Currently running a Fun 3 Bar. Looking to try out something different.

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  11 місяців тому +1

      I would try the moto bars if you want something different , because the other bars will feel pretty similar to your fun 3 bar 👍

  • @dcpayne5264
    @dcpayne5264 6 місяців тому +2

    Hi Gary, great vid. May I ask, what brand are the grips shown on the nitto albatross bars? They look like they have embossed sea creatures on them?

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  6 місяців тому +1

      Cheers mate ! They are old profile grips, wwf collab grips !

    • @orange-peeler
      @orange-peeler 3 місяці тому +1

      @@garysprojects so sick

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  3 місяці тому

      @@orange-peeler hell ya !

  • @komgen
    @komgen Рік тому +1

    wormbar! 😍

  • @bennettturk3206
    @bennettturk3206 5 місяців тому +1

    That cooks brothers stem is probably valuable

  • @lilbtyt7928
    @lilbtyt7928 Рік тому +1

    have you tried the surly corner bars yet? ive kinda been looking at them to keep my brakes...

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому

      I haven’t! They look fun though ! You should be able to keep your mtb brakes on all the bars I mention here, only if you goto drop bars you might have to change

  • @Nilbog-Hunter
    @Nilbog-Hunter Рік тому +1

    Do you think ESI Silicone grips would work on Motorcross bars such as the Suzuki ones?

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому +1

      Yeah should be same diameter 👍👍👍

  • @chrisarnold462
    @chrisarnold462 9 місяців тому +1

    Hey Gary, what is the front rack on the Diamond back with Blygo bars? Looks sturdy.

  • @myfreakyvalentine
    @myfreakyvalentine Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the guide, Gary 🤘. My question would be- where do you find these bars? Especially the Wormbar?

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому +1

      Ayyy they are from Japan! Check the links in the description of this video or you can dm them via Instagram. Cheers!

    • @myfreakyvalentine
      @myfreakyvalentine Рік тому +1

      @@garysprojects Oops.. should have checked the links, my bad! Cheers!

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому +1

      @@myfreakyvalentine haha all g!

  • @S62Uce
    @S62Uce 6 місяців тому +1

    Hi new to bikes I just picked up a trek 950 with chromoly frame. Will the mothbar fit on my bike?

  • @alexmilne966
    @alexmilne966 Рік тому +1

    Hey, I'm from Melbourne as well, and was wondering how you got these bars in Australia?

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому

      Black moto from eBay
      Wald from eBay
      Silver moto from fb marketplace
      Albatross fb martketplace
      Wormbar & Mothbar from Japan

  • @claypipkin
    @claypipkin Рік тому +1

    is the suzuki drz400 mislabeled? I searched for it but only found a dirt bike

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому +1

      It’s Suzuki drz400 oem handlebars , it’s the handlebars that come stock on that dirt bike if that makes sense

  • @ericeschborn1315
    @ericeschborn1315 Рік тому +1

    what stem is that with the wald bar?

  • @danielfaucher8063
    @danielfaucher8063 Рік тому +1

    I know it depend on many things but the you feel a difference because of the weight between normal bike bar and motocros bar?

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому +1

      Only if you compare a moto bike bike to a very light bar (e.g. albatross) other wise not that much difference. Really depends on material the bar is made out of

    • @danielfaucher8063
      @danielfaucher8063 Рік тому +1

      @@garysprojects good ! Cuz im looking to buy second hand the same handlebar as you the suzuki one . I really like the style and the hand position . Im juste not sure because of the weight ..

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому

      @@danielfaucher8063 nice I think they are about 1kg if I remember right

  • @kenlied5841
    @kenlied5841 2 місяці тому +1

    Do the moth bars work with bar end shifters?

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  2 місяці тому

      I just tired with shimano ones , the end goes in but super tight, you would have to mod / sand them to fit. Maybe other brand with smaller inserts might work

    • @kenlied5841
      @kenlied5841 2 місяці тому +1

      @@garysprojects thanks for checking!

  • @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind
    @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind Рік тому +1

    I just yanked a no rise mothbar off a Kona. Is it still called a mothbar if it has no rise at all?

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому +1

      Mothbar is made by magic components, but you can call it whatever you like 😂

  • @Ongard...AA1
    @Ongard...AA1 11 місяців тому +1

    love wide handlebar, great vdo.

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  11 місяців тому

      Thank you my dude! Wide bars are fun!

  • @Prefer2Hibrn8
    @Prefer2Hibrn8 Рік тому +1

    hey mate. First time i've seen one of your videos. I did notice something, you sound like an Aussie but you have your front brake on the wrong side?!

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому

      Hahah it’s the correct side !

    • @Prefer2Hibrn8
      @Prefer2Hibrn8 Рік тому

      @@garysprojects not in Australia 😉. There are definitely different sides depending on countries, even brand names . Occasionally we’ll get customer’s bikes through like that and it throws you for a six! Even motorbikes are the same, front brake on the right

  • @keixoun
    @keixoun Рік тому +1

    those long ass bars look super funky, to at all bad just a lil bit strange for me i guess i'm just used to seeing stock mtb bars

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому +1

      Haha yeah probably need to see em fully set up on a bike that matches it ! Gotta be more comfy than the old 560mm flat bars though 😅😅

    • @keixoun
      @keixoun Рік тому

      @@garysprojects for sure lmaoo

  • @sorinpetrescu7574
    @sorinpetrescu7574 Рік тому +1

    What stem is at 9.30?

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому

      It’s a cook bros. racing dog bone stem !

  • @AlexanderClark-zv9ne
    @AlexanderClark-zv9ne 10 місяців тому +1

    great exercise and great for pulling kids in a trailer

  • @THEBLACKANARCHIST
    @THEBLACKANARCHIST Рік тому +1

    Much appreciated 👍

  • @user-nn3ic1iy2k
    @user-nn3ic1iy2k 8 місяців тому +1

    Video bravo

  • @zachwalter8556
    @zachwalter8556 9 місяців тому +1

    Moto/bmx bars are the best bars

  • @oreocarlton3343
    @oreocarlton3343 11 місяців тому

    6:30 what is that georgeous orange bar?

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  11 місяців тому

      Wald 828 / 898

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  11 місяців тому +1

      The bike is wicked fatchance , did a resto video on it a while back if keen !

    • @oreocarlton3343
      @oreocarlton3343 11 місяців тому

      @@garysprojects meant to say what is the bike, I somehow missed that resto, its on the watch next, thanks!

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  11 місяців тому +1

      @@oreocarlton3343 cheers mate!

  • @johnsmithers284
    @johnsmithers284 Рік тому +1

    Anything with too much sweep is just too slow, doesn't let me pedal efficiently. For relaxed bikes I go with narrow risers.

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому +1

      Nice man do ya thing!! Narrow bars are also good for traffic

  • @mutos82
    @mutos82 Рік тому

    Have you ever try to bend a handlebar yourself to change any dimension of it?

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому +1

      Not purposely haha! Only bent them when I rode too hard :/

  • @geraldarcuri9307
    @geraldarcuri9307 5 місяців тому

    NONE of the available options in handlebars can make a claim to being ergonomically correct, especially not the sweeps. I cannot understand this. How difficult can this be? Sit on a bike, stretch your arms out to a comfortable position, and look at the natural alignment of the wrists. It is NOT the same as the angle of any of these bars where a rider's hands normally rest. At least in the case of a straight bar, a resting position for the hands is essentially horizontal, but a lot of weight winds up being placed on a bent wrist. An ergonomic bar would sweep back gradually, and then turn slightly outward again to meet the natural resting angle of the wrist. Currently available sweeps do not do that. And, as a result, they are not optimally comfortable, and they steer like a boat tiller. I could design a better bar in an afternoon. That bar would align with the wrist while not over loading that joint.

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  5 місяців тому

      I would like to try the bar you described to see if worked or not , sounds interesting

  • @arden0
    @arden0 Рік тому +2

    🤜-----m-----🤛Magic Components is killing it right now, Worm and Moth bars look 🤌The Moth is an Albatross that likes to shred! I just started riding a set of Wald 8038 bars and they feel pretty great, really similar to the worm bar and super cheap, just hope I don't bend 'em. Thanks Gary!

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects  Рік тому +1

      Awesome mate glad you were able to find something similar !! Yes they are !! Glad they are making great stuff for old mtbs!! Def a need for it in my eyes 😂