STOP Training Like POWERLIFTERS!
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You are insane for even thinking these movements are for the average person wanting to get strong. Training like a power lifter is way better than doing clean and jerks. It’s better to train with control rather than this CrossFit horseshit. You promoting spine snapping at best.
To train like a fruit cake? I'll stick to powerlifting.
Train like a powerlifter enjoy yourself
Unless you’re a professional athlete, you should generally just train in a way that makes you happy
@@BGeezy4sheezyand only train like a athelete, if you're.. yk a professional athlete
@@BGeezy4sheezy Like you know. A powerlifter
Yea but training like a powerlifter is not good for longevity
@@emiribric4294 eh, depends on your training style. Many powerlifters train low RPE, very sustainable programs. many of them do lots of unsustainable high volume, high intensity programs. depends on the person really. Take a look at sheiko style programs. probably some of the most sustainable training out of ANY sport, let alone powerlifting, and it works great.
I sadly have to train like one because I am one 😢
Ok
😅
But that's ok!
Me too lol
Real😭
Garage strength: stop lifting, like powerlifters
Also garage strength: power snatches….
Me: ah so Olympic lifts 😂
powerlifting and olympic weightlifting are two different things
@@jaycollett2853
Hello. What is Better for MMA?
I want to start Doing weights for MMA so I would Appreciate if you could inform me of the Difference between the two?
Thank you for your Time
@jaycollett2853 he never claimed they were the same. That's why he wrote:" ah so olympic lifts."
@@leo0367 he's implying without claiming you thought you did something didn't ya nerd?
Jump, sprint, lift heavy, lift fast, rest, eat, Drink, play sports, enjoy life.
That squat in the beginning with over a thousand lbs was pretty damn explosive. This makes no sense what he's talking about here
Think a boxers jab or a sprinters start like explosiveness.
I think usable explosiveness is a better word. Think about it this way while on the way up heavy squat/dead/bench is very explosive however long brace and singular motion is not ideal for instantaneous explosion for sports.
This training methodology is great for increasing raw power and setting a great base for explosive training.
explosive as in speed. if you tried to jump at the same speed you did a squat max, you wouldnt leave the ground. Athletes do training to not only have stronger muscle, but faster muscle. Powerlifters generally don't squat as fast as you would jump so its not good for training your vertical for example. Athletes do a lot of light weight or weightless plyometrics which helps build up speed from a still position to move faster, jump higher, and change directions quicker. I say all this as a powerlifter myself.
Just say you suck at sports
as a powerlifter you want to recruit as much as possible. As an athlete you want to recruit as quick as possible
no im a powerlifter i will continue to train like one thank you very much
Almost no one does Olympic lifting here. I stick out like a sore thumb!
If they remove it from the Olympics what will it be called?
@@alanrastellilifting
@@alanrastelliThe sport was always officially just named "weightlifting." People say "Olympic lifting" only because it's less ambiguous.
no one cares if you train different to everyone else just carry on training how you want
@@jaycollett2853 I know. It's just that they're so puzzled because I use light weights (50% BW) to work on technique while the norm is >100% BW for deadlifts.
Dudes defo on that TRT now
I don't care about being a world-class athlete I just wanna be strong
Train like a strongman!
Don’t bro the amount of food and calories they have to eat is not ok dudes are gonna die at like 60 😭
@@SCP-38I2 with the exception of Jon Paul who died from a genetic disease all of the 70's 80's and 90's professional strongmen are still alive. Bodybuilders die a lot more frequently. Cross fit is to new
@@SCP-38I2how tf are you dying at 60 exercising
@@peterk.2108 dude do you know what a strongman has to do? They have to keep their body weight at ridiculously high levels for most times which puts a lot of pressure on their heart, and a lot of that body weight is not only muscle but fat too, they have to eat around 8k or even more calories to maintain it which isn’t very healthy at all
@@SCP-38I2Mitchell hooper weighs 320 lbs only eats 5000 calories.
Also, most of them are extremely tall. So their weight isn’t that bad.
Powerlifting is literally creating massive amounts of explosive force to move weight quickly. They don’t “struggle to recruit quickly”
I know, I know....but unfortunately they do 😂
Exactly lol. A lot of powerlifters (or at least the ones who are smart) incorporate plyometrics in their workouts as well. People love to talk about things they know nothing about.
Except that it isn’t. It is about creating massive amounts of force to move weight incrementally. Heavy squats barely helped my vertical, for example
you're confusing maximal recruitment with rate of recruitment. Snatches for example are the most powerfull movement you can do despite the wr being a lot lighter than a squat yet their is a clear difference in power production
when your doing heavy squats you must move the weight as faast as possible @@JohnSmith-oe5kx
I train like a powerlifter because that’s my goal. But could incorporate some cleans and snatch. The numbers just don’t go up though lol on those lifts.
If you compete then thats fine. Problem is most gym rats dont compete.
@dnegel9546 yeah then wonder why they're sucking wind after two sprints down the court.
Nah I don’t be sucking wind after sprints and yeah tryna get ready to compete.
if u practice them more then the numbers will definitely go up. its really mostly technical on weightlifting movements rather than pure strength reliant like SBD. not to say strength doesnt matter tho because it absolutely does. but if u dont practice weightlifting movements consistently then the weight on the bar will progress very slowly for sure
@@dnegel9546you don't have to be a competing power lifter to train like one because you enjoy it as a h hobby or lifestyle what's
Ahahaha no the answer is no :)
You have to build a foundation first with those major lifts before you can screw around with everything else.
True in a lot of cases, not every case, though.
That is not true at all. Powerlifting and olympic weightlfting are two different sports
@@LucasDimoveo that’s true, but wouldn’t you think someone would say, benefit from doing front squats for cleans
I’m a weightlifter who’s dabbled in powerlifting, If you wanna squat bench and deadlift more, do lots of squat bench and deadlift. Don’t do Olympic lifts, the skill acquisition requirement for those lifts is insane, you will spend months drilling technique so you can get enough weight on the bar to make them useful. In those months you’ve spent doing technique drills, know what you could been doing? Adding kilos to your SBD and increasing proficiency in those lifts that you actually want to get good at!
Weightlifting training is fun, and it’s an amazing skill to learn, but if you just wanna SBD, don’t bother learning Olympic lifts
I’d say it’s generally safe to SBD hard whilst learning basic technique for Olympic lifts. Once you get proficient, it might be a decision of which path you want to pursue, but you might find you prefer Olympic lifts after all. I found I didn’t like them, but it’s still good to have.
@@steverossen2816 oh yeah it is an amazing skill and it is perfectly safe to do it as you said. my only pushback is there are better ways to spend your time
This is like those dorky shoes they promised would make you jump higher.
As someone that isn't trying to be an athlete. Ill train how i want to. Thanks though.
Stupid guy
Powerlifters are taught to be explosive with the competition lifts already through all the warmups leading to the top set
Bro if u wanna be a power lifter traint like a power lifter
Does training with Olympic lifts help with increasing the ratio of fast-twitch fibres for power sports that require it?
Or are the changes mostly neurological?
Step 1. Build a base by using foundational compound lifts (Squat, Deads, Bench, OHP) and playing sports regularly
Step 2. Be kind of strong now and start to focus more on Sports specificity
Step 3. Keep getting strong but add more and more sports specificity
Step 4. Start to miss getting ridiculously big and strong.
Step 5. Powerlifting becomes your sports specificity!
Step 6. Realize you miss being athletic and get into strongman.
Step 7. Profit.
Train powerlifting to help against depression
No side effects powerlifting its best our body
Mario rios would love this guy
Looking leaner Dane! Beast
I don’t think in bjj we use power in every move..some moves are more isometric and some require slow strength..we literally use everything in mma.
Don’t tell me what to do
Thats how a powerlifter trains
Look at westside guys
If you didn't know, alot of powerlifters already do this on their warmup sets and secondary days.
I’m 57 and I listen to my body, not an influencer on UA-cam.
Training the speed urself
I'm training the strength
Train for your goals.If you wanna get stronger and thats it then train like a powerlifter
Or a strongman 😁
You think they can't lift a lighter weight more quickly?! 😂
I personally hate training like an athlete. If I had the choice I would train like a powerlifter/bodybuilder instead.
Says impulse uses the exact definition for power #charlatan
I see you got too injured to lift what you could and leaned out and done bb or CrossFit type stuff like all us older powerlifters. 👍👍
His focus is on a functional body in all aspects I presume l, hence why speed and explosiveness is important as he points out, if your focus is on strength then obviously go for it
He doesn't do powerlifting.
Jumping over hurdles is more fun than powerlifting.
Powerlifting is not the same thing as strength training. It's like comparing tennis to baseball just because the both swing at balls. It's not the same.
To maximise speed and power your training needs to address both sides of the force velocity curve during training blocks. High weight low rep resistance training is the best way to increase one’s ability to produce maximal force (I.e the force side of the curve) and the other exercises he recommend are great for improving one’s rate of force production I.e (the velocity side of the curve). Both are required to optimise power.
You are correct, that is why the Chinese weightlifting team are so big on maximal pulls for the clean deadlift and snatch pull
So why exactly do we have to stop training like powerlifters? It all depends on what your goals are.
I see a lot of powerlifter in the comments upset… he’s an Olympic lifting coach.
This is great advice for building strength and conditioning workouts for athletes in most sports, but what if I'm training to be a powerlifter? 🤔
They are the best at their sport and still look sick.
Proceeds to train like an Olympic lifter
Stop training like a *powerlifter* for increased explosiveness and power
Train like each kind of lifter at different times of the year
Boys, training like a powelifter is fine, but he's talking about this from an explosive athlete perspective. Some pylometrics wouldn't hurt to add
I am trying to lift 200kg in deadlift. So I keep training like powerlifters.
Just because a given load is observed as moving slowly doesn't indicate the sheer violence of force being applied to the load to make it move.
Absolutely correct. Burst!
The caveat here being if you want to improve your athleticism.
But if I want to succeed at powerlifting, should I not train like a powerlifter? How will cleans and snatches help me - as in why pick on powerlifters specifically? I think we should just train for our goals.
If you want to be athletic and stuff, maybe going all in on powerlifting isn't the best idea. Vice versa, if you want to succeed at powerlifting, train the movements you'd be expected to perform at a meet
I do a little bit of both
I prefer muscle. What do you then suggest?
Explosiveness is work in Judo and Wrestling
I could never get into the Olympic style training, not my thing.
F**k it I am strong and I will train like strongman
That is literally like saying that an astrophysicist struggles with physics
What about that Anatoly guy, he lifts heavy weights like its nothing and he has a good physique that isn't too bulky or slow
Saying to train like an athlete is so ambiguous as there are a number of disciplines you can train for, and so the training for an endurance runner is going to look very different than a sprinter. To suggest a powerlifter isn’t an athlete in their own right is ridiculous
No, I do want to train like a powerlifter
By impulse he means impact on your joints
no he means recruit as much motor units as possible as quick as possible
A powerlifter can't win a weightlifting compitition but a weightlifter can win a powerlifting compitition so ....
Your benefits is for athlete's and there benefits is to be strong so all you said here was train for what you do 😂😅 got it
Aside the bullshit that is colossal.
Olympic lifts are very very technically difficult. You can't just pick a barbell and start doing them 😑
Nah dawg since I found out about powerlifting even if I want to my subconscious mind won't let me go back to that bodybuilding bs I just love to slam them weights
Coach… but I want to be a powerlifter
Love it coach!
Powerlifting is good if u mix it up with calisthenics
Is it just me or does Dan have abs now. I’ve been watching the channel for a long time.
Or you could use accomodating resistance on the bar and lift explosively, and incorporate jumping. The Olympic lifts have a steep learing curve and not necessary.
that doesnt mean you cant do them. you dont even need to learn the full Clean and jerk or a full snatch. you'll be just fine with hanging power cleans and hanging power snatches which both only take 2 or 3 sessions to learn the correct mechanics
@jaycollett2853 you could do them, or not. Won't make or break the athlete. And yes hang snatch and cleans are easier to learn.
One thing to ask yourself is why am I training like an athlete in a sport I don’t play? Train for longevity train hard yes but keep that meat machine healthy!
Str vs pwr
I train like a Birdiebuilder 🐦, because I want to become one. 🎉😊❤
Power is genetically a gift. We cant train the svj. Power inly increases as a buy product of strength. This is why we all cant be nfl athletes
Powerlifting gives me the sadz
And then there is this guy selling bull . Train like a powerlifter if you want to be a powerlifter. And there are all kinds of different ways to train ‘like a powerlifter’. Some of them are explosive as sh*t.
He's talking to athletes (as he's an athlete trainer). And he's correct. Nothing wrong with doing powerlifting movements in your routine as an athlete, but the focus should be on explosivity
Garage Strength's target audience is student athletes, not powerlifters. His advice makes perfect sense.
@@theaccordian9377issue is u can't train power. No one goes from a 22 inch svj to a 36. Or we all could be NFL athletes.
I’m gonna have to pass on this one champ
The goal of powerlifting is to get stronger. So you’re saying I shouldn’t train to get stronger? That is the dumbest take I’ve seen all day. Done with this app for the day.
Who is guy in first clip ??
JM would disagree.
Someone show this to Mario.
Doesn't make sense. Powerlifting with high intensity trains effective recruitment of muscle fibers. You basically need it to be able to max out on a lift. And a lot of powerlifters do speed rep training too. The reason powerlifters don't look explosive when you see them is that they are moving high percentage of max weights, which is never fast. Is it for everyone? No. But muscle fiber recruitment is probably not the right argument.
You know, I just wanna look lean and shredded, but the desire to be strong is too strong... 😂
Or, or, hear me out.... Train however YOU enjoy
But.... but I am a powerlifter 😢
Stop… taking advice from someone on steroids unless you are on steroids
He’s pretty much saying if you use powerlifting as an excuse to be fat stop it get some help
No he's not. He's saying that powerlifters train for strength, but athletes need to train for explosiveness
@@kobu1468 you didn’t get the joke!
Strength>>>speed
You cannot lift heavy with speed
The day when youtube shillfluencing will burn i will be the first to light a cigar from the flames and walk away
Yawns
Mario Rios except he's actually nice.
Crossfit energy
and what if all powerlifters stop training like powerlifters? I don't think most people know how powerlifters train. Not everything is Westside! *lol*
Do you, just do it well. Fuck the noise
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I used bands on bench they help
to make the lockout harder?
lmao i train both powerlifting and weightlifting
No thank you I like my joints how they are