By her pictures, I've always thought she had black on her family tree but to me that was irrelevant as what was important was her messages from God for us.
I’m 34 miles from Gouldtown if you need me to check on anything? Personally, I think she was black, Indian, & Caucasian just by her looks. Whatever her ethnicity, I think she was a humble prophet of God. Her writings are ordained of God, and lead people to scripture which was her mission. God willing I hope to meet her in glory!
I don’t see them denying it. Her features and the color of her skin are simply not important in light of her life’s purpose and copious mass of beautiful writing.
I get that impression, but it matters little to me. If you were desperate to have a connection, it could be made. If you're desperate to not have a connection, it has been made.
What does it matter if she was white or black? God choose her to be His spokesperson. It does matter if you hearken the words of God or not. One thing becomes obvious to me years ago already, SDA organization is not operating according God's words expressed through the writings of this precious woman. I worked for a SDA man 30 years ago, was staying on his property next to his house. One morning I was walking to the rubbish hole to throw out my dash bin. In the hole the rubbish were burning with hard cover books in it. I picked up one book and start reading. Needless to say, I rescued all the other books I could. To make a long story short, I become part of the SDA, but soon realized Im not welcome in their midst. Happy to say, I follow my Jesus where ever He leads me, thanks to this women. I am white.
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It is very important. I do not think she was a prophetess, but she founded a church. How remarkable is that for a woman of color? To me, that is a huge accomplishment. Again, I don't care if she is false prophetess, but I sure hope people don't think she was an ordinary person. She wasn't.
Dear Dr. B, I have a great aunt that was mistaken for being white, & an aunt that could have been Ellen's sister - both are black - just very light skinned with straight hair. As you know, this is typical in many black families - especially in & around the early 1,900's. It appears that very light skinned blacks were NOT deemed "black" as we call them today. That is why E.W. says Zipporah, Moses's wife was not "black" - but we would call her black today. Also, don't you find it a bit mysterious and convenient that Ellen's Mother cannot be fully identified - but her father can; we even have a picture of him? I don't think this a coincidence. Ellen's "negroid" features had to come from somewhere - they just didn't come from her father.
Her features came from God. He made two people and we all came from them. Our blood is the same and it runs through us all. May God Bless us all sisters and brothers.
@@cindiloowhoo1166 I dont know did she ? I know the bible says that we just shouldnt marry unbelievers.Moses married an ethiopian and his sister murmered about it and got Leprosy.But was healed after moses prayed for her.
The first time I ever saw a photo of EGW I immediately thought to myself this woman has a strong black genes. I have kept telling anybody who cares to listen that she indeed is black.
Did her 'biological" mother raise her is another question? It's hard to believe that they wouldn't have a pic of her actual mom unless she was a slave or daughter of a slave. It's possible that her mother was either black or a mixed woman and with native blood also. I know of someone whose great grand mother was native American and African American and married a mixed man who was white and African American. Produced children that could be EGWs siblings based on the REAL photos of her.
@@deborahfrancois714 she wasn't black. She just had a few drops. If her DNA is mostly European, she was still white. There's no such thing as a one-drop rule.
@@nadiar.7788 -- You must realize why black SDA's want to believe that Mrs. White is black. Yes, there is no such thing as the one drop rule; but blacks need to bolster their self-esteem and will grasp at straws to get it. Yes, there is a book by a black man (Dr. Dudly) on EGW's genealogy, but we see no statements here that are supported by proof. Dudly was not a genealogist. Alice Soule and others were, and their conclusion was that EGW's heritage is Anglo Saxon.
@@nicl8749 yes…I’ve read a couple of her letters myself. + on top of that SDA…why only the 7th day sabbath when that’s not the only one??? There isn’t a SDA no where in the Bible. Ellen G was a white woman. Her husband was white also…the ordinal founder
@@champagnepopppa I was sceptical at first, then read the conflict of the ages series. Patriarchs and prophets, prophets and kings, the desire of ages, acts of the apostles, the great controversy. Then after reading them books, then I knew Ellen white was special, and God did reveal things to her, because there are things that she said that only a woman who was gifted with Gods anointing. To me it doesn’t matter what colour a person is, if that person is gifted, they are gifted.
I identify as white though I have a darker complexion being 14% Native American and 3% African. My mom's parents were fairer skinned and her dad was am SDA minister in the 1940's through the early 70's mostly in the Midwest (he retired in Michigan). I grew up in Loma Linda, CA and went to Loma Linda Academy SDA School where most of my classmates at the time were white, Filipino and some Asian with just a few black students. Neither my parents, grandparents, teachers, people at church, no one I associated with in the SDA community growing up ever mentioned or questioned anything about EG White's race and I never thought about it even though I had seen pictures of her. But years after I finished high school and moved to New York City and travelled the globe and wasn't involved with the SDA community and outside the bubble I grew up in I one day saw a picture of EG White and it struck me with surprise to recognize her as being of mixed race. It seemed so obvious. One of my best friends as a kid was a fair-skinned black SDA girl with parents on both sides of her family being fair-skinned black and I knew her extended family and cousins who were all SDA and I found it odd that I didn't recognize EG White as being mixed race as a kid because it wasn't as if I wasn't exposed to fair skinned black people and that it wasn't until I had spent time outside the community that I recognized it. I was explaining the history of the SDA religion to a friend tonight who is white and told him how I believed EG White was biracial and it wasn't talked about thought now decades later maybe times have changed and people in the SDA Church are open about and embrace the fact that she is biracial. I was disappointed to find that it hasn't been concluded yet to be true definitively. Thank you for this video. Upon seeing her pictures my friend totally agrees without question she has African genes in her ancestry. I wish her relatives would do a DNA test. Like someone suggested in an earlier comment.... geneology isn't conclusive. Women can get pregnant by men other than their husbands and there was that question she had about what year she was actually born..... which maybe had to do with fudging a time of conception....and no picture of her mother..... My DNA test results had some surprises that didn't match with family history. Like my mom's dad saying we were part Cherokee Indian on his side and my mom's Ancestry DNA results showed zero Native American ancestry! All my Native American came from my Dad's side (who also had the black ancestry). I think it would be nice and significant since EG White was a good woman who accomplished so much if she could become a part of black history.
@Mack's Ministry - Exactly! And this also stands for the EG White Estate, who insist emphatically that she is Caucasian, because they found 2 genealogists to research her father' side of the family to come up with England Great Britain, therefore, she MUST be white. I don't agree with this "looking for anything to support their "she Has to be Caucasian ONLY"...especially as you say, there is nothing much known about her mother! It takes both mother and father to complete the family tree, not only 1; personally, I believe her to have Black heritage, I see Black in her features. I myself am Caucasian, however, I really have no issue what color or race she is, because most importantly she was a messenger for God, and has written us many precious books and writings to help be a guide (the lesser light to the greater light, the Bible) until Jesus returns again, which is imminent!
This question of EGW'S race has been answered over and over again. The answer is no, she wasnt bi- racial. I personally knew her grandchildren. 100% white. Anyone can make a white person look "black" with black and white photography.
@@jamesgale3301 that's a subjective opinion sir, even if u were married to her grandchild it's still a opinion. My opinion she appears to be quadroon (quarter black) with her mother being a mulatto hence her existence is shrouded in mystery 🤔. Nevertheless just like Jesus being an obvious Black man doesn't matter EGW being a fully white doesn't matter either. Race is a social construct We R one
I like to think of her as biracial, especially since we have little to nothing about her mother. I LIKE to think of her as biracial, and I am biracial, half white and half Native American. I have a sort of dark complexion. You can tell I am mixed something or other. Thanks for the video. Love the comments.
I think so too. Huge accomplishment if she of color. And a woman. Someone was upset by mentioning her race. I see much value to make sure she is recognized as she was.
I do not think there could be much doubt that she definitely had some biracial qualities within her genes. In light of all that was going on at the time, can you imagine the bedlam that would have occurred if it was known overtly that she was black? It was for her safety, as well as the safety of others, that the possibility of her being of another race was quelled as much as possible. One can only imagine even today, if this was to be revealed, more than likely, many of her ratings would’ve been either discounted, or even eradicated, simply because of her possible biracial nature. interestingly enough, once again that there are no pictures of her mother, I wonder why?
The mater is that she was a false prophit ? & false teacher of the false religion called 7DA is ocult...they all came out of false prophet Millerites in middle of 18c
Isn’t the devil the father of lies..From the W. I, I’m very light complexion my g’pa is from Portugal marry to my Indian race g’ma. My mom her sisters n other sisters, other sisters out of her family which her dad had. In my early 20’s I got baptized in the SDA CHURCH n received a book with her face on it. It look like the last picture on this documentary. Took it home to my mom I told mom is this one of ur sisters, she’s SDA. She half black n u know whites don’t have their hair part in the middle like that . All my aunties n mom always always have their hair parted in the middle n both sides comb back.. WHY WONT THEY HAVE THE FATHER BUT NOT THE MOTHER PIC.. WHAT R THEY HIDING. I HEARD THAT HER COUSIN HAD THE SAME VISIONS BUT, BUT WAS AFRAID TO TELL BECAUSE OF BEING KILLED😨
Brothers and sisters, if we are in Christ, we are all one. “There is neither Jew, nor Gentile, male nor female, slave or free.” We are all children of the living God- our Heavenly Father. Racism has no place in our lives
Not that it matters, but some of her descendants could give a sample of their saliva, blood so that a DNA test could be done. I know she has several descendants still alive because I attended the same church with some when I first became an Adventist so many years ago. That should answer the lingering questions about her racial heritage and remove doubt.
It matters because you took the time to comment.... and, no DNA test can prove/disprove what our eyes clearly see. IF her estate doesn't have a picture or knowledge of her bio mother could very well be because she was indeed a black woman or mixed black woman.
All I can say right now that the God of the white man is the God of the black man...there is no color when coming to God. Jesus died for all color and ethnic background.. you all need yo stop that, stop being a racist, and grow up. Educate yourselves with the bible and save some souls from hell.
@@speaktruth8322 . I agree with you. I will repeat my post, as it seems not to populate as yet: The matter of ethnicity has importance. Much so for us who cares for it. On 14:00 on the video the genealogy of EGW is given. In light of the strong conclusions made that White is white, this conclusions are drawn amidst the missing links. The first is of the missing photo of her mother. The second is of the uncertain birth year, which strongly favour a hidden and unrecorded birth, for whatever reason. Thirdly, as stated at 14:00, that there are five blank great-great-grand-parents' positions. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it is a duck. I think the video is well presented, but coming from the SDA group, independence and neutrality is questioned. Albeit my doubts about the conclusive commitments about her whiteness, with glaring missing pieces. The (hidden?) missing pieces of key genealogy. The very basis of the SDA's existence is pivoting on this issue. Not whether she was black or white, but if she was of mixed blood. Any person distancing himself from the Biblical standard regarding a bustard child, by default distance himself from God and the Bible. So, yes, her ancestry is important for us who cares. In my conclusion, Mrs.White is non-white on her own classification and of mixed origins given the glaring missing links.
@@gerritcoetzee9075 Thank you for your conclusions and I agree with your every word. Ellen White has more black features than my grandfather on my dad's side who "passed" when he wanted a specific job but always maintained, away from his jobs, his ethnicity. My lips are not as full as Ellen White's and as small as any white person's.
True we are one race but God chose a nation out of the race to be his inheritance. However there is conflict over the comlexion of his chosen people, whether the children of Israel are a so called black or the so called white race. Its mankind who over centuries brought about the issues of race not God and its clearto Identify their complexion because it's written in scriptures particularly in the old testament. Yet people deny the truths through cognitive dissonance.
Did you watch this video? The professional genealogist says that looks doesn't mean someone is of a certain ethnic group. She was white, but not that it really matters. We are just here for facts.
Titus 3:9 KJV [9] But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. 1 Timothy 1:4 KJV [4] Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
@@shellyblanchard5788 for a start that makes no sense...how can the law have a genealogy, second...no it does not say that at all. It says avoid strivings about the law. But i can see how some would like to spin it so they can still argue their genealogies. Can you spin this one as well? 1Tim. 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
@@dougreformed8956 ok . It says not struggle about what struggle about how they kept the old laws and other things because it was different then. They offered different kinds of things. We don't have to worry about being ceremonial unclean. It is ok to discuss what they we are not under those laws anymore. Jesus has taken care of our sins forever. We don't have to go out and sacrifice a burnt offering for a sweet smelling to make a pleasing aroma for God. 🤗. Yes it plainly says to not strive over the law. For example some of my relatives would argue over a road sign to see if was right obey it or not. Everyday is to be righteous to us because we are saved from our sins through the blood of Jesus. We are to treat our neighbor with kindness ever day, not just one day a week. Jesus has give us rest to our the very weariness of trying to perfect in ourselves.
The matter of ethnicity has importance. Much so for us who cares for it. On 14:00 in the video, the genealogy of EGW is given. It is deduced that she must be white, based on conclusions. These conclusions are then (wrongly) drawn amidst the missing links. There is the missing photo of her mother that will immediately indicate what race she was. The second is of the uncertainty of her birth year, which could open up searches when to search for where she was born. The convenience of the missing information strongly favour a hidden and unrecorded birth. It is another trait of Black population of the era. Thirdly, as stated at 14:00, that there are also five blank great-great-grand-parents' positions. Such missing information is more common among black populations and slaves that came from Africa. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it is a duck. I think the video is well presented, but coming from the SDA group, independence and neutrality are questioned. Thus, these are my doubts about the presenter's "conclusively" commitments about her whiteness; respite glaring missing pieces of evidence that would truly be evidence one way of the other. The (hidden?) missing pieces of key genealogy can not be ignored. The very basis of the SDA's existence is pivoting on this issue. Not whether she was black or white, but if she was of mixed blood. Any person distancing himself from the Biblical standard regarding a child of mix origins, by default distance himself from God and the Bible. So, yes, her ancestry is important for us who cares. In my conclusion, Mrs.White is non-white on her own classification and of mixed origins. The missing links coupled with facial features combined indicate mixed origins, and there is no proof to prove another origin - and no evidence to support the claim that she could be white.
Dear @MatSphere : If you ask this for a Jew, as misguided as they are, they too will answer yes. If you ask this for a Muslim, they may too answer yes. Race is imperative as a mixed race is by degree of Alhym excluded to the fourth generation. Other verses speak of people being excluded to the 1000th generation. Maybe by these two quotes, you can evaluate and formulate an answer to your question.
I agree with this... so much of her mother's information is missing. Her material side in general, is empty. I believe she and her sister were very much passing.
Back in the 1800 we may never know if she was partly black because back they had those slaves that worked on the plantation. Her mother may have been black, who knows. It just as common now days for people to marry into interracial marriage.
Many families back then had well kept secrets as research into anyone's genealogy shows. So who knows? One idea would be to DNA a living relative. Maybe she had a different father to her siblings, hence the confusion about her birth date with her alleged twin? Just a thought.
I don't think it should matter whether she was black or not. We all are equal in God's eyes regardless of color. We all who are children of God, and brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus, will be together in Heaven. You know when I was little I asked my mother why black people wanted their own churches if we would be going to Heaven together? She said she knew it didn't make any sense; and I am here as a white woman to say-what difference does it make? God loves us all-not just black, asian, or white.
Please understand that Blacks did not want their own churches.They were forced to get their own churches because they were not fully accepted in the White ones. This is also true regarding black historical colleges and universities. Because of rejection, they had two choices: create places of worship and educational institutions, or stay home. Shameful and sad right?
There is currently no conclusive evidence of her being Black. At the end of the day, it should not matter. If she is a true prophet she will speak out about injustices. Also, her features were married by a childhood incident. She is a prophet to the CHURCH.
Its not that there’s anything negative about blackness, its just remarkable that at a time and place when and where blackness was hated and desparaged God chose to use suchba person, if indeed she had some blackness, so, so, so powerfully!
She was clearly biracial ! Although I’ve never heard of her before today through a friend. I’m biracial and it’s more important that society focus on the amazing prophetic visions that God gave her to share with the world. ❤️✝️❤️
I didn’t know that, like I said, I’ve never heard of her! That’s pretty hilarious though and not very credible to her reputation that’s for sure. Thanks for pointing that out. 🎯🆘💯
Happy Sabbath friends. I’m writing this in 2022. In today’s time, This is especially important for white Christians (nationalists 😐) to know. Jesus is black. The prophets were all black. This colors things. Pun intended. Gods providence is infinite.
Why would the conclusion be that she was white? Should it not be that her heritage is inconclusive. With a lack of information, why is the default Anglo-Saxon? I am just saying!
Simple, her living family can do DNA testing. She may not have known her DNA make up. This is not something that most Mothers discuss. Did he say that she had a twin? Why did she carry her maiden name as well or was it added by her estate?
Her color is not important but the great work she done for the Lord! However, we are curious about heritage. She does look Indian and black. Maybe one day we'll discover what she really was. It's curious that there are no photos of her mother but there are photos of her father. 🤔🤔🤔
My brother and I are both from New Jersey and our parents from the southern states of American. My mother's family is from South Louisiana and my father's family is South Alabama and both of our parents' families are of alleged Latin African American Indian Creole and Mulatto, and both grew up in Native African American Indian Latin territory, and record shows that my father's people were People Color. As Christians and disciples of Jesus Christ though a persons race cannot save them, but it was Pastor Dulley's book that allowed me the maturity to except my alleged Latin American Indian roots, because my father grew up in Eufaula, AL which is on the trail of tears.
I don't care she is black or white. God is look in your heart not in appearance. EGW is genuine modern prophet and a messenger of God Who give her a super natural wisdom to preach the words of God that revealed to her to all humanity around the world.
@@terrygreenman1540 You are one of those shameless criminals that troll these sites and defame the late Ellen G White. But I pray that Jesus will work for someone's salvation what Satan intended to do through you. The full sentence reads, "The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty, yet Christ and the Father are one." (Pg 150 [1129]. Satan moved you to reject the entire paragraph preceding the one you purposefully misquoted from, which follows:- "Christ left His position in the heavenly courts, and came to this earth to live the life of human beings. This sacrifice He made in order to show that Satan’s charge against God is false-that it is possible for man to obey the laws of God’s kingdom. Equal with the Father, honored and adored by the angels, in our behalf Christ humbled Himself, and came to this earth to live a life of lowliness and poverty-to be a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. Yet the stamp of divinity was upon His humanity. He came as a divine Teacher, to uplift human beings, to increase their physical, mental, and spiritual efficiency." Other meaningful quotes from the same chapter:- “1-3 (Proverbs 8:22-27; Romans 9:5; Philippians 2:6; Colossians 1:15-17; Hebrews 1:8). The Eternity of Christ-If Christ made all things, He existed before all things. The words spoken in regard to this are so decisive that no one need be left in doubt. Christ was God essentially, and in the highest sense. He was with God from all eternity. God over all, blessed forevermore. The Lord Jesus Christ, the divine Son of God, existed from eternity, a distinct person, yet one with the Father. He was the surpassing glory of heaven. He was the commander of the heavenly intelligences, and the adoring homage of the angels was received by Him as His right. This was no robbery of God [Proverbs 8:22-27 quoted]." (Page 144 [1126]) "(Matthew 27:54; 1 Timothy 3:16.) But although Christ’s divine glory was for a time veiled and eclipsed by His assuming humanity, yet He did not cease to be God when He became man. The human did not take the place of the divine, nor the divine of the human. This is the mystery of godliness. The two expressions “human” and “divine” were, in Christ, closely and inseparably one, and yet they had a distinct individuality. Though Christ humbled Himself to become man, the Godhead was still His own. His deity could not be lost while He stood faithful and true to His loyalty. (Page 149 [1129])
I must strongly disagree. This statement perverts God's Word. We were made in His likeness, not His character. If we were made in His Character, we all would still have been in Eden.
That's not how it worked in America. In America, by law you were what ur mother was... this was a way to keep the children born to Black mothers enslaved.
Thanks so much very well done..your take on the very last EGW quote I think can be incorrect she was writing to the leaders and the church in the North..so giving the truth of what they need to do and what she did personally for the South..she was a Christian more than a white person doing Gods revealed will..and the Lords inspirations are for all of us, give to all who are faithful who Love the Lord. We should all know all our geneology...are many things to learn during the millenium in Heaven.
I asked this question as a teen...I eventually dropped it and lost interest however. I thought perhaps if she did have some black genes in her DNA, then perhaps it may have shown up in her present family tree...or not.
It doesn't affect our salvation whether or not she was Black. In 1972, at SDA Academy, Sister White 's young great, great, great granddaughter stood several feet away from me on a Sabbath. I cannot clearly recall if she was looking for a seat/ whether we sppke. She definitely was not light-skinned, but quite fair. By the way, that was Garden State Academy (formerly Plainview Academy), in Tranquility, New Jersey. I am now a senior citizen. But back then ,due to my manner of dress, and i guess deep relationship with Jesus at that time, the girls dorm dubbed me the "second Ellen G. White ". Of course i was honored , and they even had a very short song about me. Truth be told, they were exposed to the very uncharacteristic EGW-like 9th grader,when I physically fought with the senior monitor the last day before school let out that year. So much for my reputation as a good Christian- lousy temper got the best of me.
I love Ellen G White exactly as she is because her divine writing and spiritual integrity draws me to her. I think it a special blessing from God that she looked both black and white. How wonderful that she is a woman for all nations!
“For all nations”? Then why did she have no problem with our country exterminating the natives in the name of manifest destiny. While the Modoc nations were being slaughtered just for wanting to keep 6 square miles of their own land, EG White was warning about the perils of 6 year old boys masturbating. How is that putting priorities in order for all nations? SDAs are so enamored with the claims of the woman who suffered brain damage from a thrown rock, that they just cannot get past the absurdity of her admonitions and claims. She had no empathy for the racism against all non whites. If god was indeed talking to her, why would she not address the inequities, intolerance, and injustice of the times in which she was extensively writing? She was extremely petty concerning things she wanted to criticize, yet completely bypassed the fact that millions were being slaughtered by the racism in America. It is a failure of the denomination to completely ignore these facts that were so prevalent. Where were the extreme Religious right who were focusing on all things spiritual?
I never thought that the ethinicty of God's messager would become an object of racial dispute... 😮 -- Those who waste God's precious talent [of time] will not be guiltless before Him in the Judgement. (this whole is inappropriate)😮
Is so estrange? I noticed her black features some tyme ago, why there is no pictures of her mother or more ancestry research of her real ancestry is pitiful due to her importance for the church. Is all so suspicious?
No pictures of Ellen's mother? How about her twin sister? She didn't seem to have to much in common with either of them. They didn't seem to share in the same religious beliefs! Ellen was a religious fanatic! Is that the reason they were swept under the table? Twins can have different fathers! Ellen was an odd person out! She couldn't get along with to many others! Is that the reason she went to Australia, to find her long lost relatives? I believe she was bi-racial, and had a inferior concept of herself. So when she a dream of the Great Controversy and saved the ADVENTIST peo
If Ms. Ellen White had the spiritual insight to write Desre Of Ages, Sprit of Prophecy, Testimony To The Church and many other writing one would beleve that she would know of her are African ancestry.
I find this interesting as I use to be SDA and remember the day when our local church kicked the blacks out saying they needed to form there own church in town which they did.
The SDA church has been one of the most racist churches the world over. I wonder whether if proved that she was indeed black, whites would not leave the Church.
Wouldn't it have been great if you had followed your black brothers and sisters to help form their church???? Well, how old were you? Our white SDA church in the city I live didn't want blacks to attend their church. When black Adventists visited and didn't know our location but found themselves at this white SDA church these SDAs would always inform them where they could find the black SDA church; this was circa 1950's to 1980's. This white SDA church is now liberally mixed with all colors of people and I was a pianist there for a number of years. Those whites that didn't like worshiping with people of color no longer attend; poor things... may God have mercy on their souls. If they can't worship with people from all ethnicities there is no way of them making it to Heaven for there is only One and it most certainly will be "mixed" with all beautiful colors of the Human Race.
I read on Wikipedia that she States she has a little African American ancestry and even has tested her DNA I just learned about her today and seen that.
in my opinion i just ran into this i was listening to some one they were discussing her i looked up her photo this woman is clearly mixed looking really like a light skinned black woman i am surprised they allowed her to pass back in those days, you can see this woman is mostly black she took her features after her black mother. i really do not care one way or another i was curious. as racist as they were back then i am surprise they allowed her to pass wow
God Bless you Brother. So Don't be vague or obtuse don't prevaricate around the proverbial bush say it Loud and Clear! What specifically of her Teachings are false? Are you referring to the 28 fundamental beliefs of the SDA church? or Rather the testimonies in her writings as the most prolific non-fictional female writer of modern times? I am curious as to the specifics of your attempted smear? Is this a hatred of her person? Her writings? Her denomination? Come right out and say. Be Bold and stand on your beliefs. I for one believe her to be forthright and upstanding. She continually pointed to her writings as an arrow pointing to Holy Scripture and did not believe her writings to be canonical. What is it that you believe in the Holy Scriptures to be false?
We have built civilizations all over the world. Given welfare... given rights to EVERYONE. Created the entire system of which is NOW corrupted but once was fair. Blacks and whites and yellows and purples have been segregated by continents from each other for a LOOONG time, so the fact that we still have a country being the social expirements we are is incredible. Pointing fingers and blaming everyone is what WOMEN do.. and yes, I know I was raised by a single mother, too ... and my life has sucked terribly because my family was the " party" family on the block, so I was hated... and yes, by other white people .. ( because I'm of German decent with Blonde hair and blue eyes, so of course I'm a.nazi, right ? Everyone in " black" neighborhoods kill eachother over pride... it's just the HUMAN animal in us that is being brought out ON PURPOSE by our MOTHERS . a victim mentality is from your MOMMA. Now start watching Jesse Lee Peterson and grow the F UP!
Yes what’s most important is the writings but I wonder if she was black would that change how valuable her writings are. Because there were a lot of black investors that never got real credit for their work and some of them we are just becoming aware of today. let’s not forget everything a black person did in those days was devalued.
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Considering the two men that would not take the post, she might as well been one! Matters not as she was a prophet! The last one on this earth for the remnant
I’ve always known she was not white. Her features are of African descent. Her wisdom surpasses most. MOST of her teachings I love and embrace. I’m not a baptized member of the Adventist church. But much respect for Adventist😊😊
This is interesting biographical information. It is informative to learn about her life. If you feel triggered by this subject and your response is that you aren't interested in whether Ellen White's ancestry included black or native DNA but you would not feel so emotional if the discussion was about whether she had German, Dutch or English ancestry, instead of just reacting, maybe ask yourself why.
Exactly....If the entire Christendom isn't represented as being of White European heritage, it's of the devil, it's causing confusion, it's divisive, and it doesn't "matter". Yet they're suppose to be the people who champion TRUTH!
@@speaktruth8322 Yes, that's true. All along it was the only way Biblical people and even Jesus were represented but now this is bring challenged it suddenly doesn't matter. If its not important, then why did they have to be portrayed as European all the time?
@@AnonyMe-qy5vz whether people like it or not, racism, white supremacy, and anti-black does indeed play a HUGE role in this great controversy. It matters very much as to why Europeans have concealed MUCH truth to maintain their dominance that's supported by their LIES.
Show me a Jew who is black, they are brown not black. I know that if He would have been black His Salvation would be the same but, truth is truth , He was not of the black race.
While the world is turning their eyes and looking at God's church we still have members wrestling things to their own destruction. Once again she was white and her robe was also.
I meant to say that I have a signed book from Elder Dudley, which I received from him back in 2005. He visited the Lima Drive SDA Church in Lexington, Ky and had a book signing later that day!😊
I had never heard of this lady before today. I was watching a UA-cam video and Dr. John Scharffenberg mentioned that Ellen G. White had been teaching nutrition and lifestyle over medication for years and while he was in med school it bothered him. Apparently he didn’t believe her at the time. I looked her up, took one look at her photo and said out loud “She Black.” Watered down a few times but she black.
I am troubled that you disputed Elder Dudleys findings on EG White heritage in his book. I have a copy of his book also. He has stated that Ellen G. White was kin to the Blendwrights and Dickersons. Where did he get all his information. Was this discussed at length? What did he say when you and others talked to him about finding out that EGWhite did not have any black connections. I don't recall you addressing this. You didn't even discuss where he got his information. I'm sure Elder Dudley did extensive research before publishing his book. Of course , it was white people that did the geneology for her. They don't want her to be black. Many white adventist would probably leave the church. We black people know our black people, no matter how white looking, even with blonde hair and blue eyes. EG White has a black heritage, I don't care what you or any one else says. When I first saw this video, I felt that you had a dislike for Elder Dudley to take white man's findings over what his findings were and to publish this. You didn't even discuss where he got his information that is pubished in his book. Maybe you should consider highering Henry Louis Gates Jr to look into the geneology of EG White. I bet the outcome will be totally different..
I believe that Ellen G Harmon White is partly black! Twins can have different fathers! That's why her twin sister didn't get along with her,!? It's why Dr. John Harvey Kellogg got in trouble with the White family later on? The White family took him in at an early age and even paid for his education . Dr. Kellogg was mostly likely to be homosexual as well,!! Anyone who writes a book on their wedding night has got to be suspect! He sure didn't believe in normal sex. He only married to keep up appearances and was afraid to come out of the " çloset". However he took in about forty kids that he nourished and educated. I'm directly descendant from one of them! I left the S.D.A. church many years ago because the church become a business for the White family! Went to their boarding schools which was a total desastor - worked in their tax free factoryies to pay my own room and board at the age of 13. Left the church because they refused to answer simple questions! Even to this day they are still trying to reconvert me! They have literally destroyed my life! THEY CANT STAND THE REAL "TRUTH". !!
How to basically tell a person by their nation? Their, looks. Ellen looks like a light skin black person. Her skin color and features. If she were and look pure white there would be no discussion. So, please stop the lies. If it does not matter, there would be no discussion. All the prophets God used in the pass, are all black Hebrews. Ellen White is no exception. By the way. There is only one race. The human race. God has made of all nations, one blood. There are many nations, but, one race. So, Ellen White is mixed with more than one or two or even 3 nations. Stop the fighting, and thank God for messages He gave His servant to save our sinful self.
I'm pretty sure that there were no, absolutely no biracial or black children going to school at the age of 9 in her day. Aside from that, I'm pretty doubtful (which is an understatement) that James and Ellen were chased away from many places b/c of their bi-racial marriage. Even before they were married there was talk that was normal, even for this day and age, regarding the association of two unmarried people in a ministry and traveling together. If they were biracial they would have never been allowed to travel at all.
Why should ethnicity have any value, especially over her inaccuracies? It does not matter what race she came from, but her lies, will, and have deceived many.
Personally I've always wondered why she had such unusual facial features for someone of supposed only European descent. So I always suspected something. Also having visions is actually even MORE OF A COMMON OCCURENCE in several, if not all African countries and communities than it was or is in European countries and communities. Same goes for Native Americans, both men and women. So her having these visions throughout her life makes a lot of sense.
Perhaps because they didn’t work quite well in her day. Perhaps it’s the reason she was separated from her mother or why the White estate is holding back on providing a picture of her mother.
Ellen Harmon Gould White was Anglo-Saxon according to the internet. She looks more mixed race than black though. It's not possible for her to be black if her father was white. Without an image of Eunice we have to assume she was more biracial.
Finding out that Jesus was Black would have more impact on me. As for EG, if she were to be a mixed person passing as White would of course explain her thoughts on slavery. Why would her sons not just do a DNA study from their own specimen? She may not have known her own race.
That was totally off-topic. Unfortunately, Deuteronomy 5 states that the ten commandments were statutes and ordinances of the covenant made between God and the children of Israel. Hebrews 8 tells us that the old covenant is obsolete. In addition, Galatians tells us that the Law was temporary and that we are no longer under it.
I’m 70, disassociated from the church about age 24. It is so nice not to be involved in all the controversies in the SDA circles all these years! There are so many issues that are relevant these days. History is history. I love history, and have come to understand that about 95 % of what we learned was biased, jilted, and provided no context….about EVERYTHING. But now, as an atheist, religion seems to be nothing more than a quest for power. All religion! I believe people create their god in the image that they conceive, mostly of their own conclusions. If they despise homosexuality…so does their god. If they are racist or believe archaic rules…so does their god. If they believe humanity will be in a heaven or hell…so does their god. Etc. etc. etc. Right down to legalistic rules of approved sabbath activities, reading material, and music…their god does exactly as they do. I believe religion kills vibrant childhood development. The young are trained to be like mom and dad instead of observing and concluding. I’ve watched entire families go down the path of following a grandparents beliefs, through two generations, and the young in each family despising their forced childhood experiences. They were Indoctrinated full blown attending multiple services, everlasting sermons, and restricted activities to the point they despise parents, aunts, and uncles. Children should not be forced to listen to unpleasant sermons that repeat the same traditions of belief OVER AND OVER AND OVER. They grow into adults hating all that, yet believing it. This makes them resent all of it and suffer from guilt over unattainable goals. Adventist, Pentacostals, Nazarene…it doesn’t matter, the results are always the same. For instance Adventists are inundated with “the Sabbath is such a joy, a day of rest”, the adults repeat this in church, then go home for a guilt afternoon of napping while the teens are bored stiff, looking forward to sundown to be free from the burden. All religions have their stern restrictions that young people resent. I guess I’ll leave it at that.
You have basically summed up my experience! Raised as an Adventist. Most ex S.D.A. 's hang onto religion in some form of other most of their lives. Before becoming Atheist! I could never overcome the phycology damage that was done! My life of what could have done was totally destroyed! - old man ATHEIST!?
You speak for yourself and foolish. A story is told of two boy's growing up with an abusive dad. Later in years one of them was interviewed why he is what he is, a total washout. He blamed his dad. The other boy who become very successful in life also was interviewed. He said it's because of his dad, he decided not to follow in his dad's footsteps. Don't confuse the bible with tradition. The bible is written by holy men under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. God reveals Himself and His will and The plan of redemption through this word. Because He is a God of love He does not force. Through the Holy Spirit He is saying to you, choose this day who you shall serve in the struggle between good and evil, between God and Satan.
You all have thrown the baby with the basin water, to bad! I was an Adventist for more than 30 years and I do not feel bad because from that religion I learned good healthy habits. The Sabbath day brought me in but the Sabbath rest in Jesus, every day took me out. Creation by God gives us a marvelous inheritance, evolution gives you a gorilla ancestry, foolishness that from nothing you get all the beauty that surrounds us and space marvel that is perfectly functioning. You can believe in God and His salvation through His Son without the trapping of a denomination. You can study God’s Word and truth in the Bible who has the beginning and end of this world we live in. Don’t be an empty brain with no answers for this how and why we are here, you will find the answers in Our Father teachings and feel the peace they provide and the most magnificent LOVE you will ever know and have.📖❤️
@@robertchilders8698 No Way! They find love in Sola Scriptura,Solo Gratia, Solo Faith and Solo Christo. Atheism is emptiness , darkness and no answers - Zero!
Never heard any suggestions that she was black, but it doesn't matter to me if she was or not.
Actually it does, she denigrated blacks vociferously, so the insight helps analyze her motives.
She is certainly very Stange!! Bizarre
@@markingersoll2671how so?
@@catholic4sure976 you must be a Jesuit
@@alfredtameifuna8928 you must be bigot
Black, white, and brown it dosen't matter... God dosen't seek on color. God only chose who are only really faithfull to Him.
By her pictures, I've always thought she had black on her family tree but to me that was irrelevant as what was important was her messages from God for us.
Amen?
I’m 34 miles from Gouldtown if you need me to check on anything? Personally, I think she was black, Indian, & Caucasian just by her looks. Whatever her ethnicity, I think she was a humble prophet of God. Her writings are ordained of God, and lead people to scripture which was her mission. God willing I hope to meet her in glory!
_"I think she was a humble prophet ...."_ You mean a false prophet who called satan - His Majesty?
I've been studying her a lot. Apparently she was misguided and dishonest. I'm so disheartened.
Agreed. I am amazed (and even shamed) at how Jesus ministers to millions because she humbled herself so He could work through her.
@@user-hf1ys4rr5h You are spiritual blind as a rock
EGW was a liar and a fraud. Most of her teachings contradict the Bible .
The first time I saw EGW’s photo, I immediately could see she was biracial.
😂 you need to do some research. 😂
Did you watch this whole video? It's proven that she is not black, looking black and being black are two different things.
she's black
@@andrewfields8556she looks very different from her peers. Maybe native American, but she wasn't white.
@@laurenmay2098 didn't you Eastchester the documentary?
If it is true it would in no way change my respect and love for Sister White but the White Estate seems eager to deny it like it's a bad thing
Why is it a bad thing? Why does everything have to be about race? She was white, no biracial genes
I don’t see them denying it. Her features and the color of her skin are simply not important in light of her life’s purpose and copious mass of beautiful writing.
Whoa! Tell it. You not lying. But it's really more deeper than people realize. I'm talking of Biblical proportion deep.
I get that impression, but it matters little to me. If you were desperate to have a connection, it could be made. If you're desperate to not have a connection, it has been made.
For the narrative reasons I'm curious!
How strange it is that there's a pic of Ellen, her father yet none of her mother.....I don't trust much that comes from the White estate btw
By all the pictures of her with her husband and kids is quite reviling. She wasn't white. Not sure why the church wanted to hide that.
What does it matter if she was white or black? God choose her to be His spokesperson. It does matter if you hearken the words of God or not. One thing becomes obvious to me years ago already, SDA organization is not operating according God's words expressed through the writings of this precious woman. I worked for a SDA man 30 years ago, was staying on his property next to his house. One morning I was walking to the rubbish hole to throw out my dash bin. In the hole the rubbish were burning with hard cover books in it. I picked up one book and start reading. Needless to say, I rescued all the other books I could. To make a long story short, I become part of the SDA, but soon realized Im not welcome in their midst. Happy to say, I follow my Jesus where ever He leads me, thanks to this women. I am white.
It’s because she is portrayed as white.
@@godlovessophiia Yes it matters if a Black person is portrayed as White - its a plain lie. Let anyone say otherwise.
May I share my favorite Seventh Day Adventist yt ministry is Saved to Serve Prophecy Again Midday Power Surge with pastor Andrew Henriques. Blessings.
Studies are live chat. Good for fellowship.
It is very important. I do not think she was a prophetess, but she founded a church. How remarkable is that for a woman of color? To me, that is a huge accomplishment. Again, I don't care if she is false prophetess, but I sure hope people don't think she was an ordinary person. She wasn't.
Dear Dr. B, I have a great aunt that was mistaken for being white, & an aunt that could have been Ellen's sister - both are black - just very light skinned with straight hair. As you know, this is typical in many black families - especially in & around the early 1,900's. It appears that very light skinned blacks were NOT deemed "black" as we call them today. That is why E.W. says Zipporah, Moses's wife was not "black" - but we would call her black today. Also, don't you find it a bit mysterious and convenient that Ellen's Mother cannot be fully identified - but her father can; we even have a picture of him? I don't think this a coincidence. Ellen's "negroid" features had to come from somewhere - they just didn't come from her father.
Her features came from God. He made two people and we all came from them. Our blood is the same and it runs through us all. May God Bless us all sisters and brothers.
@@flea-kh7om
Did EGW not say that there should be no mixed race marriages?
There is only one race the human race I was taught by a dark skinned “black” pastor.
@@flea-kh7om you are so right our earth suit comes from GOD !
@@cindiloowhoo1166 I dont know did she ? I know the bible says that we just shouldnt marry unbelievers.Moses married an ethiopian and his sister murmered about it and got Leprosy.But was healed after moses prayed for her.
The first time I ever saw a photo of EGW I immediately thought to myself this woman has a strong black genes. I have kept telling anybody who cares to listen that she indeed is black.
I just thought it and thought I must be seeing things
Did her 'biological" mother raise her is another question? It's hard to believe that they wouldn't have a pic of her actual mom unless she was a slave or daughter of a slave. It's possible that her mother was either black or a mixed woman and with native blood also. I know of someone whose great grand mother was native American and African American and married a mixed man who was white and African American. Produced children that could be EGWs siblings based on the REAL photos of her.
She is indeed black but a lighter black
@@deborahfrancois714 she wasn't black. She just had a few drops. If her DNA is mostly European, she was still white. There's no such thing as a one-drop rule.
@@nadiar.7788 -- You must realize why black SDA's want to believe that Mrs. White is black. Yes, there is no such thing as the one drop rule; but blacks need to bolster their self-esteem and will grasp at straws to get it. Yes, there is a book by a black man (Dr. Dudly) on EGW's genealogy, but we see no statements here that are supported by proof. Dudly was not a genealogist. Alice Soule and others were, and their conclusion was that EGW's heritage is Anglo Saxon.
Does it matter if Ellen G White was black, her writings are amazing and God given, she was used by God, no doubt.
😂😂😂😂 keep lying to yourself. Her shit was false
@@champagnepopppa have you read her books or just heard what people have told you about her writings.
@@nicl8749 yes…I’ve read a couple of her letters myself. + on top of that SDA…why only the 7th day sabbath when that’s not the only one??? There isn’t a SDA no where in the Bible. Ellen G was a white woman. Her husband was white also…the ordinal founder
@@champagnepopppa I was sceptical at first, then read the conflict of the ages series. Patriarchs and prophets, prophets and kings, the desire of ages, acts of the apostles, the great controversy. Then after reading them books, then I knew Ellen white was special, and God did reveal things to her, because there are things that she said that only a woman who was gifted with Gods anointing. To me it doesn’t matter what colour a person is, if that person is gifted, they are gifted.
@@nicl8749 like what, name one lol
I identify as white though I have a darker complexion being 14% Native American and 3% African. My mom's parents were fairer skinned and her dad was am SDA minister in the 1940's through the early 70's mostly in the Midwest (he retired in Michigan). I grew up in Loma Linda, CA and went to Loma Linda Academy SDA School where most of my classmates at the time were white, Filipino and some Asian with just a few black students. Neither my parents, grandparents, teachers, people at church, no one I associated with in the SDA community growing up ever mentioned or questioned anything about EG White's race and I never thought about it even though I had seen pictures of her. But years after I finished high school and moved to New York City and travelled the globe and wasn't involved with the SDA community and outside the bubble I grew up in I one day saw a picture of EG White and it struck me with surprise to recognize her as being of mixed race. It seemed so obvious. One of my best friends as a kid was a fair-skinned black SDA girl with parents on both sides of her family being fair-skinned black and I knew her extended family and cousins who were all SDA and I found it odd that I didn't recognize EG White as being mixed race as a kid because it wasn't as if I wasn't exposed to fair skinned black people and that it wasn't until I had spent time outside the community that I recognized it. I was explaining the history of the SDA religion to a friend tonight who is white and told him how I believed EG White was biracial and it wasn't talked about thought now decades later maybe times have changed and people in the SDA Church are open about and embrace the fact that she is biracial. I was disappointed to find that it hasn't been concluded yet to be true definitively. Thank you for this video. Upon seeing her pictures my friend totally agrees without question she has African genes in her ancestry. I wish her relatives would do a DNA test. Like someone suggested in an earlier comment.... geneology isn't conclusive. Women can get pregnant by men other than their husbands and there was that question she had about what year she was actually born..... which maybe had to do with fudging a time of conception....and no picture of her mother..... My DNA test results had some surprises that didn't match with family history. Like my mom's dad saying we were part Cherokee Indian on his side and my mom's Ancestry DNA results showed zero Native American ancestry! All my Native American came from my Dad's side (who also had the black ancestry). I think it would be nice and significant since EG White was a good woman who accomplished so much if she could become a part of black history.
Yes, in fact she was mixed race.
Though race is not a salvation issue, how can anyone say what race Ms. Ellen G. White was if no one seems to know much about her mother!
@Mack's Ministry - Exactly! And this also stands for the EG White Estate, who insist emphatically that she is Caucasian, because they found 2 genealogists to research her father' side of the family to come up with England Great Britain, therefore, she MUST be white. I don't agree with this "looking for anything to support their "she Has to be Caucasian ONLY"...especially as you say, there is nothing much known about her mother! It takes both mother and father to complete the family tree, not only 1; personally, I believe her to have Black heritage, I see Black in her features. I myself am Caucasian, however, I really have no issue what color or race she is, because most importantly she was a messenger for God, and has written us many precious books and writings to help be a guide (the lesser light to the greater light, the Bible) until Jesus returns again, which is imminent!
This question of EGW'S race has been answered over and over again. The answer is no, she wasnt bi- racial. I personally knew her grandchildren. 100% white. Anyone can make a white person look "black" with black and white photography.
@@jamesgale3301 That is not an objective, scientific analysis.
@@jamesgale3301 that's a subjective opinion sir, even if u were married to her grandchild it's still a opinion. My opinion she appears to be quadroon (quarter black) with her mother being a mulatto hence her existence is shrouded in mystery 🤔. Nevertheless just like Jesus being an obvious Black man doesn't matter EGW being a fully white doesn't matter either. Race is a social construct We R one
I like to think of her as biracial, especially since we have little to nothing about her mother. I LIKE to think of her as biracial, and I am biracial, half white and half Native American. I have a sort of dark complexion. You can tell I am mixed something or other. Thanks for the video. Love the comments.
I think so too. Huge accomplishment if she of color. And a woman. Someone was upset by mentioning her race. I see much value to make sure she is recognized as she was.
I do not think there could be much doubt that she definitely had some biracial qualities within her genes. In light of all that was going on at the time, can you imagine the bedlam that would have occurred if it was known overtly that she was black? It was for her safety, as well as the safety of others, that the possibility of her being of another race was quelled as much as possible. One can only imagine even today, if this was to be revealed, more than likely, many of her ratings would’ve been either discounted, or even eradicated, simply because of her possible biracial nature. interestingly enough, once again that there are no pictures of her mother, I wonder why?
The White Estate Vault is a well-oiled propaganda machine.
The mater is that she was a false prophit ? & false teacher of the false religion called 7DA is ocult...they all came out of false prophet Millerites in middle of 18c
Isn’t the devil the father of lies..From the W. I, I’m very light complexion my g’pa is from Portugal marry to my Indian race g’ma. My mom her sisters n other sisters, other sisters out of her family which her dad had. In my early 20’s I got baptized in the SDA CHURCH n received a book with her face on it. It look like the last picture on this documentary. Took it home to my mom I told mom is this one of ur sisters, she’s SDA. She half black n u know whites don’t have their hair part in the middle like that . All my aunties n mom always always have their hair parted in the middle n both sides comb back.. WHY WONT THEY HAVE THE FATHER BUT NOT THE MOTHER PIC.. WHAT R THEY HIDING. I HEARD THAT HER COUSIN HAD THE SAME VISIONS BUT, BUT WAS AFRAID TO TELL BECAUSE OF BEING KILLED😨
& dont email me about it I dont want to talk about it & waisting my time, please
Brothers and sisters, if we are in Christ, we are all one. “There is neither Jew, nor Gentile, male nor female, slave or free.” We are all children of the living God- our Heavenly Father. Racism has no place in our lives
Not that it matters, but some of her descendants could give a sample of their saliva, blood so that a DNA test could be done. I know she has several descendants still alive because I attended the same church with some when I first became an Adventist so many years ago. That should answer the lingering questions about her racial heritage and remove doubt.
It matters because you took the time to comment.... and, no DNA test can prove/disprove what our eyes clearly see. IF her estate doesn't have a picture or knowledge of her bio mother could very well be because she was indeed a black woman or mixed black woman.
All I can say right now that the God of the white man is the God of the black man...there is no color when coming to God. Jesus died for all color and ethnic background.. you all need yo stop that, stop being a racist, and grow up. Educate yourselves with the bible and save some souls from hell.
@@speaktruth8322 . I agree with you. I will repeat my post, as it seems not to populate as yet:
The matter of ethnicity has importance. Much so for us who cares for it.
On 14:00 on the video the genealogy of EGW is given. In light of the strong conclusions made that White is white, this conclusions are drawn amidst the missing links.
The first is of the missing photo of her mother.
The second is of the uncertain birth year, which strongly favour a hidden and unrecorded birth, for whatever reason.
Thirdly, as stated at 14:00, that there are five blank great-great-grand-parents' positions.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it is a duck.
I think the video is well presented, but coming from the SDA group, independence and neutrality is questioned. Albeit my doubts about the conclusive commitments about her whiteness, with glaring missing pieces. The (hidden?) missing pieces of key genealogy.
The very basis of the SDA's existence is pivoting on this issue. Not whether she was black or white, but if she was of mixed blood.
Any person distancing himself from the Biblical standard regarding a bustard child, by default distance himself from God and the Bible.
So, yes, her ancestry is important for us who cares.
In my conclusion, Mrs.White is non-white on her own classification and of mixed origins given the glaring missing links.
It's very sad and a great distraction that this point would be fought about.
We are one created by God.
@@gerritcoetzee9075
Thank you for your conclusions and I agree with your every word. Ellen White has more black features than my grandfather on my dad's side who "passed" when he wanted a specific job but always maintained, away from his jobs, his ethnicity. My lips are not as full as Ellen White's and as small as any white person's.
one race, human, Christ believers do not regard a persons color, mischief makers pollute the mind
True we are one race but God chose a nation out of the race to be his inheritance. However there is conflict over the comlexion of his chosen people, whether the children of Israel are a so called black or the so called white race. Its mankind who over centuries brought about the issues of race not God and its clearto Identify their complexion because it's written in scriptures particularly in the old testament. Yet people deny the truths through cognitive dissonance.
You can tell by the way she looks she had a mix heritage
Did you watch this video? The professional genealogist says that looks doesn't mean someone is of a certain ethnic group. She was white, but not that it really matters. We are just here for facts.
Titus 3:9 KJV
[9] But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
1 Timothy 1:4 KJV
[4] Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
It said avoid geneologies about the law.
@@shellyblanchard5788 for a start that makes no sense...how can the law have a genealogy, second...no it does not say that at all. It says avoid strivings about the law. But i can see how some would like to spin it so they can still argue their genealogies. Can you spin this one as well?
1Tim. 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
@@dougreformed8956 ok . It says not struggle about what struggle about how they kept the old laws and other things because it was different then. They offered different kinds of things. We don't have to worry about being ceremonial unclean. It is ok to discuss what they we are not under those laws anymore. Jesus has taken care of our sins forever. We don't have to go out and sacrifice a burnt offering for a sweet smelling to make a pleasing aroma for God. 🤗. Yes it plainly says to not strive over the law.
For example some of my relatives would argue over a road sign to see if was right obey it or not. Everyday is to be righteous to us because we are saved from our sins through the blood of Jesus. We are to treat our neighbor with kindness ever day, not just one day a week. Jesus has give us rest to our the very weariness of trying to perfect in ourselves.
@@dougreformed8956 you read it yourself in titus.
@@shellyblanchard5788 you said genealogies about the law, not the bible. the bible says avoid foolish questions and geneaologies.
Great work you are doing.
Would love to get content that can be shown at churches that is shorter and to the point.
I always thought she was mixed. Beautiful woman
The matter of ethnicity has importance. Much so for us who cares for it.
On 14:00 in the video, the genealogy of EGW is given. It is deduced that she must be white, based on conclusions. These conclusions are then (wrongly) drawn amidst the missing links.
There is the missing photo of her mother that will immediately indicate what race she was.
The second is of the uncertainty of her birth year, which could open up searches when to search for where she was born. The convenience of the missing information strongly favour a hidden and unrecorded birth. It is another trait of Black population of the era.
Thirdly, as stated at 14:00, that there are also five blank great-great-grand-parents' positions. Such missing information is more common among black populations and slaves that came from Africa.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it is a duck.
I think the video is well presented, but coming from the SDA group, independence and neutrality are questioned. Thus, these are my doubts about the presenter's "conclusively" commitments about her whiteness; respite glaring missing pieces of evidence that would truly be evidence one way of the other. The (hidden?) missing pieces of key genealogy can not be ignored.
The very basis of the SDA's existence is pivoting on this issue. Not whether she was black or white, but if she was of mixed blood.
Any person distancing himself from the Biblical standard regarding a child of mix origins, by default distance himself from God and the Bible.
So, yes, her ancestry is important for us who cares.
In my conclusion, Mrs.White is non-white on her own classification and of mixed origins. The missing links coupled with facial features combined indicate mixed origins, and there is no proof to prove another origin - and no evidence to support the claim that she could be white.
Bruh! You hit the nail on the head. 👍🏾
Wait... what, you believe race is important to closeness with God?
Dear @MatSphere :
If you ask this for a Jew, as misguided as they are, they too will answer yes. If you ask this for a Muslim, they may too answer yes. Race is imperative as a mixed race is by degree of Alhym excluded to the fourth generation. Other verses speak of people being excluded to the 1000th generation. Maybe by these two quotes, you can evaluate and formulate an answer to your question.
@gerritcoetzee9075 well, good thing we're Christian. Race is irrelevant.
I agree with this... so much of her mother's information is missing. Her material side in general, is empty. I believe she and her sister were very much passing.
Back in the 1800 we may never know if she was partly black because back they had those slaves that worked on the plantation. Her mother may have been black, who knows. It just as common now days for people to marry into interracial marriage.
Many families back then had well kept secrets as research into anyone's genealogy shows. So who knows? One idea would be to DNA a living relative. Maybe she had a different father to her siblings, hence the confusion about her birth date with her alleged twin? Just a thought.
I don't care what she looked like, God used her for His work, all that matters. GOD WAS HER FATHER...PERIOD
Was God Ellen G. White's gopher?
@@terrygreenman1540 CALM DOWN, SMH. IS THIS ALL YOU GOT???
@@mastiffpeople4868 What you want me to do bash my relative? EGW was after all my 5th cousin 6 generations removed. How about you calm down?
@@terrygreenman1540 oh so you know the Mathesons then??? I went to church with them. Snap
@@terrygreenman1540 just because you were related to her doesn't guarantee your salvation
I don't think it should matter whether she was black or not. We all are equal in God's eyes regardless of color. We all who are children of God, and brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus, will be together in Heaven. You know when I was little I asked my mother why black people wanted their own churches if we would be going to Heaven together? She said she knew it didn't make any sense; and I am here as a white woman to say-what difference does it make? God loves us all-not just black, asian, or white.
So lets say ( assume) that she was WHITE would it be true or false to portray her as BLACK ------Would it be true or false ?
@@colinpatterson728 Assuming she was any color says it makes a difference to us, doesn't it?
@@hannaliesel876 OK assume she is BLACK - would it be true or false to portray hers as WHITE ? - Would it be true or false ?
Please understand that Blacks did not want their own churches.They were forced to get their own churches because they were not fully accepted in the White ones. This is also true regarding black historical colleges and universities. Because of rejection, they had two choices: create places of worship and educational institutions, or stay home. Shameful and sad right?
There is currently no conclusive evidence of her being Black. At the end of the day, it should not matter. If she is a true prophet she will speak out about injustices. Also, her features were married by a childhood incident. She is a prophet to the CHURCH.
So True
Sure hope that people respect what she said about the issue of race in America
Its not that there’s anything negative about blackness, its just remarkable that at a time and place when and where blackness was hated and desparaged God chose to use suchba person, if indeed she had some blackness, so, so, so powerfully!
@@judithmiguda1791 agreed. It would be interesting to know
Yes she is...a prophet.
A false one at that.
truth matter
She was clearly biracial ! Although I’ve never heard of her before today through a friend. I’m biracial and it’s more important that society focus on the amazing prophetic visions that God gave her to share with the world. ❤️✝️❤️
For example that she saw martians on Mars?
I didn’t know that, like I said, I’ve never heard of her! That’s pretty hilarious though and not very credible to her reputation that’s for sure. Thanks for pointing that out. 🎯🆘💯
@@rivoendre for you to lie on someone should be more disgusting then seeing a false vision or dream
@@dorianharkins3803 Loughborough, J.N. The great second advent movement. Washington D.C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association. 1909, p. 260
Happy Sabbath friends.
I’m writing this in 2022.
In today’s time, This is especially important for white Christians (nationalists 😐) to know.
Jesus is black. The prophets were all black.
This colors things. Pun intended.
Gods providence is infinite.
Why would the conclusion be that she was white? Should it not be that her heritage is inconclusive. With a lack of information, why is the default Anglo-Saxon? I am just saying!
Agreed. Other than tracing her name and no DNA test. Nobody knows.
I learn so much this morning, thank u.
Simple, her living family can do DNA testing. She may not have known her DNA make up. This is not something that most Mothers discuss. Did he say that she had a twin? Why did she carry her maiden name as well or was it added by her estate?
Gould was Ellen's middle name, not maiden name (which was Harmon).
Her color is not important but the great work she done for the Lord! However, we are curious about heritage. She does look Indian and black. Maybe one day we'll discover what she really was. It's curious that there are no photos of her mother but there are photos of her father. 🤔🤔🤔
Seriously! What difference does it make? She was a prophet of God and a blessing to the SDA Church.
My brother and I are both from New Jersey and our parents from the southern states of American. My mother's family is from South Louisiana and my father's family is South Alabama and both of our parents' families are of alleged Latin African American Indian Creole and Mulatto, and both grew up in Native African American Indian Latin territory, and record shows that my father's people were People Color. As Christians and disciples of Jesus Christ though a persons race cannot save them, but it was Pastor Dulley's book that allowed me the maturity to except my alleged Latin American Indian roots, because my father grew up in Eufaula, AL which is on the trail of tears.
...as Black as Eleanor Roosevelt and Babe Ruth...but not as Black as Jesus...
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
U Need 2 Quit It
That part
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😂😂 Happy Sabbath
I don't care she is black or white.
God is look in your heart not in appearance.
EGW is genuine modern prophet and a messenger of God
Who give her a super natural wisdom to preach the words of God that revealed to her to all humanity around the world.
"The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty." -Ellen G. White (1903, ms 150, SDA Commentary V, p. 1129)
@@terrygreenman1540 Why dont you quote the entire sentence. Smh
@@jeffreybeddoe3089 I don't like quoting my heretic cousin too much or too long. Someone like you may think I am a fan or something else.
@@terrygreenman1540 You are one of those shameless criminals that troll these sites and defame the late Ellen G White. But I pray that Jesus will work for someone's salvation what Satan intended to do through you.
The full sentence reads, "The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord God Almighty, yet Christ and the Father are one." (Pg 150 [1129].
Satan moved you to reject the entire paragraph preceding the one you purposefully misquoted from, which follows:-
"Christ left His position in the heavenly courts, and came to this earth to live the life of human beings. This sacrifice He made in order to show that Satan’s charge against God is false-that it is possible for man to obey the laws of God’s kingdom. Equal with the Father, honored and adored by the angels, in our behalf Christ humbled Himself, and came to this earth to live a life of lowliness and poverty-to be a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. Yet the stamp of divinity was upon His humanity. He came as a divine Teacher, to uplift human beings, to increase their physical, mental, and spiritual efficiency."
Other meaningful quotes from the same chapter:-
“1-3 (Proverbs 8:22-27; Romans 9:5; Philippians 2:6; Colossians 1:15-17; Hebrews 1:8). The Eternity of Christ-If Christ made all things, He existed before all things. The words spoken in regard to this are so decisive that no one need be left in doubt. Christ was God essentially, and in the highest sense. He was with God from all eternity. God over all, blessed forevermore.
The Lord Jesus Christ, the divine Son of God, existed from
eternity, a distinct person, yet one with the Father. He was the
surpassing glory of heaven. He was the commander of the heavenly intelligences, and the adoring homage of the angels was received by Him as His right. This was no robbery of God [Proverbs 8:22-27 quoted]." (Page 144 [1126])
"(Matthew 27:54; 1 Timothy 3:16.) But although Christ’s divine glory was for a time veiled and eclipsed by His assuming humanity, yet He did not cease to be God when He became man. The human did not take the place of the divine, nor the divine of the human. This is the mystery of godliness. The two expressions “human” and “divine” were, in Christ, closely and inseparably one, and yet they had a distinct individuality. Though Christ humbled Himself to become man, the Godhead was still His own. His deity could not be lost while He stood faithful and true to His loyalty. (Page 149 [1129])
EGW is NOT a genuine prophet. She was a liar, fraud and apostate.
Why bring color on Ellen white?i don't think we should be entertaining race on sister white what matters is what she did for the ministry.
People are curious; and why not have their curiosity satisfied? It's harmless.
The maine think no one mention that she was a false prophetess...the color is not should be the issue...wake up people
One thing for sure, we are all made in God's image.
Amen to that … in other words, it doesn’t matter we all are Adam’s descendent
Right on sister
I must strongly disagree. This statement perverts God's Word. We were made in His likeness, not His character. If we were made in His Character, we all would still have been in Eden.
Okay, in His likeness,, we will be made new, perfect and whole, someday soon when God returns in the clouds.
Adams image and likeness😅
She was white BC os her father was. But her features suggest her mother was black.
That's not how it worked in America. In America, by law you were what ur mother was... this was a way to keep the children born to Black mothers enslaved.
Thanks so much very well done..your take on the very last EGW quote I think can be incorrect she was writing to the leaders and the church in the North..so giving the truth of what they need to do and what she did personally for the South..she was a Christian more than a white person doing Gods revealed will..and the Lords inspirations are for all of us, give to all who are faithful who Love the Lord. We should all know all our geneology...are many things to learn during the millenium in Heaven.
Well, her surname says she's white
That’s why she married James: she always wanted to be White
I asked this question as a teen...I eventually dropped it and lost interest however.
I thought perhaps if she did have some black genes in her DNA, then perhaps it may have shown up in her present family tree...or not.
Yup, looks like she was a white women with some African DNA, that's all. Nothing remarkable or new here. People make a big deal of everything.
@@nadiar.7788 😂 Lol. I agree with you.
@@araisininthesun5958 white raisin 😁
@@araisininthesun5958 🌔🌓🌒
She looks like my grandmother. I call her Auntie Ellen.
I vote for the Ellen White Elder Dudley Described. He was a Great Conference President.
It doesn't affect our salvation whether or not she was Black.
In 1972, at SDA Academy, Sister White 's young great, great, great granddaughter stood several feet away from me on a Sabbath. I cannot clearly recall if she was looking for a seat/ whether we sppke. She definitely was not light-skinned, but quite fair. By the way, that was Garden State Academy (formerly Plainview Academy), in Tranquility, New Jersey.
I am now a senior citizen. But back then ,due to my manner of dress, and i guess deep relationship with Jesus at that time, the girls dorm dubbed me the "second Ellen G. White ". Of course i was honored , and they even had a very short song about me. Truth be told, they were exposed to the very uncharacteristic EGW-like 9th grader,when I physically fought with the senior monitor the last day before school let out that year. So much for my reputation as a good Christian- lousy temper got the best of me.
I can't claim that, but I knew a bloke who walked past Hitler once.
I love Ellen G White exactly as she is because her divine writing and spiritual integrity draws me to her. I think it a special blessing from God that she looked both black and white. How wonderful that she is a woman for all nations!
What??! Haven`t you read or seen all her false teachings and lies?
@@zaaigoedWhat are her the false teachings and lies?
“For all nations”? Then why did she have no problem with our country exterminating the natives in the name of manifest destiny. While the Modoc nations were being slaughtered just for wanting to keep 6 square miles of their own land, EG White was warning about the perils of 6 year old boys masturbating. How is that putting priorities in order for all nations? SDAs are so enamored with the claims of the woman who suffered brain damage from a thrown rock, that they just cannot get past the absurdity of her admonitions and claims. She had no empathy for the racism against all non whites. If god was indeed talking to her, why would she not address the inequities, intolerance, and injustice of the times in which she was extensively writing? She was extremely petty concerning things she wanted to criticize, yet completely bypassed the fact that millions were being slaughtered by the racism in America. It is a failure of the denomination to completely ignore these facts that were so prevalent. Where were the extreme Religious right who were focusing on all things spiritual?
Ellen G. White was biracial and her mother was of African American Ancestry.
Who cares? Weare all God's children. You should see everyone as the angels of God sees them, God's creation.
I never thought that the ethinicty of God's messager would become an object of racial dispute... 😮
-- Those who waste God's precious talent [of time] will not be guiltless before Him in the Judgement.
(this whole is inappropriate)😮
My son on seeing a photo of Ellen White for the first time a few days ago ask was she black.?
Is so estrange? I noticed her black features some tyme ago, why there is no pictures of her mother or more ancestry research of her real ancestry is pitiful due to her importance for the church. Is all so suspicious?
No pictures of Ellen's mother? How about her twin sister? She didn't seem to have to much in common with either of them. They didn't seem to share in the same religious beliefs! Ellen was a religious fanatic! Is that the reason they were swept under the table? Twins can have different fathers! Ellen was an odd person out! She couldn't get along with to many others! Is that the reason she went to Australia, to find her long lost relatives? I believe she was bi-racial, and had a inferior concept of herself. So when she a dream of the Great Controversy and saved the ADVENTIST peo
People she became the center
Of attention! Please excuse my response,as I think I maybe censored again!
If Ms. Ellen White had the spiritual insight to write Desre Of Ages, Sprit of Prophecy, Testimony To The Church and many other writing one would beleve that she would know of her are African ancestry.
I find this interesting as I use to be SDA and remember the day when our local church kicked the blacks out saying they needed to form there own church in town which they did.
The SDA church has been one of the most racist churches the world over. I wonder whether if proved that she was indeed black, whites would not leave the Church.
Wouldn't it have been great if you had followed your black brothers and sisters to help form their church???? Well, how old were you?
Our white SDA church in the city I live didn't want blacks to attend their church. When black Adventists visited and didn't know our location but found themselves at this white SDA church these SDAs would always inform them where they could find the black SDA church; this was circa 1950's to 1980's. This white SDA church is now liberally mixed with all colors of people and I was a pianist there for a number of years. Those whites that didn't like worshiping with people of color no longer attend; poor things... may God have mercy on their souls. If they can't worship with people from all ethnicities there is no way of them making it to Heaven for there is only One and it most certainly will be "mixed" with all beautiful colors of the Human Race.
Can you speak on her statements
regarding amalgamation?
Thank you
I read on Wikipedia that she States she has a little African American ancestry and even has tested her DNA I just learned about her today and seen that.
I don’t think it’s relevant to who she was at all. She was an amazing person and left a legacy of good around the world…
in my opinion i just ran into this i was listening to some one they were discussing her i looked up her photo this woman is clearly mixed looking really like a light skinned black woman i am surprised they allowed her to pass back in those days, you can see this woman is mostly black she took her features after her black mother. i really do not care one way or another i was curious. as racist as they were back then i am surprise they allowed her to pass wow
Her being a black does not matter. It is her false teachings which matter.
"A Black". what is this,1910...Do better
God Bless you Brother. So Don't be vague or obtuse don't prevaricate around the proverbial bush say it Loud and Clear!
What specifically of her Teachings are false? Are you referring to the 28 fundamental beliefs of the SDA church? or Rather the testimonies in her writings as the most prolific non-fictional female writer of modern times? I am curious as to the specifics of your attempted smear? Is this a hatred of her person? Her writings? Her denomination? Come right out and say. Be Bold and stand on your beliefs. I for one believe her to be forthright and upstanding. She continually pointed to her writings as an arrow pointing to Holy Scripture and did not believe her writings to be canonical.
What is it that you believe in the Holy Scriptures to be false?
give me one false teaching
@@Goodson2020it's your turns now.
We have built civilizations all over the world. Given welfare... given rights to EVERYONE. Created the entire system of which is NOW corrupted but once was fair. Blacks and whites and yellows and purples have been segregated by continents from each other for a LOOONG time, so the fact that we still have a country being the social expirements we are is incredible. Pointing fingers and blaming everyone is what WOMEN do.. and yes, I know I was raised by a single mother, too ... and my life has sucked terribly because my family was the " party" family on the block, so I was hated... and yes, by other white people .. ( because I'm of German decent with Blonde hair and blue eyes, so of course I'm a.nazi, right ? Everyone in " black" neighborhoods kill eachother over pride... it's just the HUMAN animal in us that is being brought out ON PURPOSE by our MOTHERS . a victim mentality is from your MOMMA. Now start watching Jesse Lee Peterson and grow the F UP!
Yes what’s most important is the writings but I wonder if she was black would that change how valuable her writings are. Because there were a lot of black investors that never got real credit for their work and some of them we are just becoming aware of today. let’s not forget everything a black person did in those days was devalued.
Do a Story on SDA Black Doctors and Dentist My Sister Dr Diedra Poole Alston DDS and Her Son Charles Alston Jr DDS is a Dentist. Mother Son Dental Team . Dr John Bookhardt and His Brother.both Medical Doctors .Maude's Sons who walked to Oakwood from South Carolina, Dr Coopwood who ran Meharry Medical and Dental .The Sampsons Many Doctors in that Family. Then The Lawyers and Judges . Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee. Powerful SDA Legislator a Former Federal Judge.Congressional Black Caucus Member. Protecting and Defending Her People. Always .
Does it matter wheather she is black or white????
Happy Sabbath friends. I will definitely share this.
Considering the two men that would not take the post, she might as well been one! Matters not as she was a prophet! The last one on this earth for the remnant
I’ve always known she was not white. Her features are of African descent. Her wisdom surpasses most. MOST of her teachings I love and embrace. I’m not a baptized member of the Adventist church. But much respect for Adventist😊😊
Their doctrine is false
The idea it doesn't matter weather she was Black or not... leave that in God hand's.
This is interesting biographical information. It is informative to learn about her life. If you feel triggered by this subject and your response is that you aren't interested in whether Ellen White's ancestry included black or native DNA but you would not feel so emotional if the discussion was about whether she had German, Dutch or English ancestry, instead of just reacting, maybe ask yourself why.
Exactly....If the entire Christendom isn't represented as being of White European heritage, it's of the devil, it's causing confusion, it's divisive, and it doesn't "matter". Yet they're suppose to be the people who champion TRUTH!
@@speaktruth8322 Yes, that's true. All along it was the only way Biblical people and even Jesus were represented but now this is bring challenged it suddenly doesn't matter. If its not important, then why did they have to be portrayed as European all the time?
@@AnonyMe-qy5vz whether people like it or not, racism, white supremacy, and anti-black does indeed play a HUGE role in this great controversy. It matters very much as to why Europeans have concealed MUCH truth to maintain their dominance that's supported by their LIES.
@@speaktruth8322 May God bless you. Adventists used to speak up more. God cares about us and loves us.
Ask yourself why you follow a false prophet?🙄
Seemed like she said some very bad things about the races. Physically, it seems like she may be biracial.
She was a profit of God, to God there is no Color so who cares what color she is. May God Bless us all. Take care, Vern Harrison
And Jesus was black..so what..praise the Lord..!
Happy Sabbath friends!! And so we shall! What good news!
Michelle , how do you know that Jesus was black. ? He was Jewish and the Jewish people are not black. Brown and white but not black.
Show me a Jew who is black, they are brown not black. I know that if He would have been black His Salvation would be the same but, truth is truth , He was not of the black race.
@andreali6361 Your information is wrong, do not mislead people!
@andreali6361 No comments? hello!?
While the world is turning their eyes and looking at God's church we still have members wrestling things to their own destruction. Once again she was white and her robe was also.
It doesn't matter, she was a false prophet black or white.
I meant to say that I have a signed book from Elder Dudley, which I received from him back in 2005. He visited the Lima Drive SDA Church in Lexington, Ky and had a book signing later that day!😊
I do wish closed-captioning was available for these videos.
Remember that she had a terrible accident that changed her features . Read up . Race has nothing to do with who we are in God's sight .
No. Rock changed her features to look more Black. Her sister also looked mixed and this is part of the issue
I had never heard of this lady before today. I was watching a UA-cam video and Dr. John Scharffenberg mentioned that Ellen G. White had been teaching nutrition and lifestyle over medication for years and while he was in med school it bothered him. Apparently he didn’t believe her at the time. I looked her up, took one look at her photo and said out loud “She Black.” Watered down a few times but she black.
I bet she is Portuguese. A decendant of Marano.
I had an Aunt that resembled EG White
She looks like my grandmother. I call her Auntie Ellen. 😊
Is your aunt white, black, mixed or something else?
I am troubled that you disputed Elder Dudleys findings on EG White heritage in his book. I have a copy of his book also. He has stated that Ellen G. White was kin to the Blendwrights and Dickersons. Where did he get all his information. Was this discussed at length? What did he say when you and others talked to him about finding out that EGWhite did not have any black connections. I don't recall you addressing this. You didn't even discuss where he got his information. I'm sure Elder Dudley did extensive research before publishing his book. Of course , it was white people that did the geneology for her. They don't want her to be black. Many white adventist would probably leave the church. We black people know our black people, no matter how white looking, even with blonde hair and blue eyes. EG White has a black heritage, I don't care what you or any one else says. When I first saw this video, I felt that you had a dislike for Elder Dudley to take white man's findings over what his findings were and to publish this. You didn't even discuss where he got his information that is pubished in his book. Maybe you should consider highering Henry Louis Gates Jr to look into the geneology of EG White. I bet the outcome will be totally different..
Hear!! Hear!!!
I believe that Ellen G Harmon White is partly black! Twins can have different fathers! That's why her twin sister didn't get along with her,!? It's why Dr. John Harvey Kellogg got in trouble with the White family later on? The White family took him in at an early age and even paid for his education
. Dr. Kellogg was mostly likely to be homosexual as well,!! Anyone who writes a book on their wedding night has got to be suspect! He sure didn't believe in normal sex. He only married to keep up appearances and was afraid to come out of the " çloset". However he took in about forty kids that he nourished and educated. I'm directly descendant from one of them! I left the S.D.A. church many years ago because the church become a business for the White family! Went to their boarding schools which was a total desastor - worked in their tax free factoryies to pay my own room and board at the age of 13. Left the church because they refused to answer simple questions! Even to this day they are still trying to reconvert me! They have literally destroyed my life! THEY CANT STAND THE REAL "TRUTH". !!
@@robertchilders8698
Sooo sorry that was your experience!!!
How to basically tell a person by their nation? Their, looks. Ellen looks like a light skin black person. Her skin color and features. If she were and look pure white there would be no discussion. So, please stop the lies. If it does not matter, there would be no discussion. All the prophets God used in the pass, are all black Hebrews. Ellen White is no exception. By the way. There is only one race. The human race. God has made of all nations, one blood. There are many nations, but, one race. So, Ellen White is mixed with more than one or two or even 3 nations. Stop the fighting, and thank God for messages He gave His servant to save our sinful self.
That is a reason why she was against mixing race marriage. She felt on her own skin the negativity. Hard times.
Have you looked at volume 3 of Dudley's book?
Focus on Jesus ✝️
Black,Dalits or White ? We don’t care ✋
Jesus the Dalit🙏
What is "Dalit " please?????
@@thinblacknoodles The untouchable caste in the culture of India.
Jesus was not born into a caste system. So, Jesus was not Dalit.
It doesn’t matter to me wat colour she is , the most important she is a prophet!
They say in the last days the young & the old would prophesize. Is she the only prophet of her period to present?
Race is important. And you shall know the truth and that truth shall make you free.
My father has family in gooltown, Nj I’ve always wondered why I was told not to date anyone from that town by my father maybe she is a relative😮
Who cares. She is a child of God, as we all are. 😊
I wondered that too....
I'm pretty sure that there were no, absolutely no biracial or black children going to school at the age of 9 in her day. Aside from that, I'm pretty doubtful (which is an understatement) that James and Ellen were chased away from many places b/c of their bi-racial marriage. Even before they were married there was talk that was normal, even for this day and age, regarding the association of two unmarried people in a ministry and traveling together. If they were biracial they would have never been allowed to travel at all.
Why should ethnicity have any value, especially over her inaccuracies? It does not matter what race she came from, but her lies, will, and have deceived many.
Personally I've always wondered why she had such unusual facial features for someone of supposed only European descent.
So I always suspected something.
Also having visions is actually even MORE OF A COMMON OCCURENCE in several, if not all African countries and communities than it was or is in European countries and communities.
Same goes for Native Americans, both men and women.
So her having these visions throughout her life makes a lot of sense.
But I honestly think she was something other than white
She wasn't black end the controversy.
she wasn't black but she sure was racist in her books lol
Are you referring to the “confusion of the races” due to interbreeding of animals and lower forms of humans? Yeah, that was quite an insight.
@@Jaco3688 yes lol
Glory HalleluYAH, I always heard inside my being that Ellen G White was "so called "black"" thank you for sharing; bless your truth. Amen
Perhaps, her - Ellen's mother was Aboriginal. Perhaps her visit to Australia was actually in pursuit of her maternal roots.
GOOD QUESTION ❤!!!!
So if she was 'supposedly' mixed why did she forbid interracial marriages
Sounds like she was ashamed of being mixed
Perhaps because they didn’t work quite well in her day. Perhaps it’s the reason she was separated from her mother or why the White estate is holding back on providing a picture of her mother.
Ellen Harmon Gould White was Anglo-Saxon according to the internet. She looks more mixed race than black though. It's not possible for her to be black if her father was white. Without an image of Eunice we have to assume she was more biracial.
Why is it important if she was black or white?????
Finding out that Jesus was Black would have more impact on me. As for EG, if she were to be a mixed person passing as White would of course explain her thoughts on slavery. Why would her sons not just do a DNA study from their own specimen? She may not have known her own race.
the first time i saw her picture i asked my self that question. And the answer is yes.
The Law in Ten Commandments is an the Everlastng Covenant and It's Majestic!
Amen!
That was totally off-topic. Unfortunately, Deuteronomy 5 states that the ten commandments were statutes and ordinances of the covenant made between God and the children of Israel. Hebrews 8 tells us that the old covenant is obsolete. In addition, Galatians tells us that the Law was temporary and that we are no longer under it.
I’m 70, disassociated from the church about age 24.
It is so nice not to be involved in all the controversies in the SDA circles all these years!
There are so many issues that are relevant these days.
History is history. I love history, and have come to understand that about 95 % of what we learned was biased, jilted, and provided no context….about EVERYTHING.
But now, as an atheist, religion seems to be nothing more than a quest for power.
All religion!
I believe people create their god in the image that they conceive, mostly of their own conclusions. If they despise homosexuality…so does their god.
If they are racist or believe archaic rules…so does their god.
If they believe humanity will be in a heaven or hell…so does their god.
Etc. etc. etc.
Right down to legalistic rules of approved sabbath activities, reading material, and music…their god does exactly as they do.
I believe religion kills vibrant childhood development. The young are trained to be like mom and dad instead of observing and concluding. I’ve watched entire families go down the path of following a grandparents beliefs, through two generations, and the young in each family despising their forced childhood experiences. They were Indoctrinated full blown attending multiple services, everlasting sermons, and restricted activities to the point they despise parents, aunts, and uncles.
Children should not be forced to listen to unpleasant sermons that repeat the same traditions of belief OVER AND OVER AND OVER. They grow into adults hating all that, yet believing it. This makes them resent all of it and suffer from guilt over unattainable goals.
Adventist, Pentacostals, Nazarene…it doesn’t matter, the results are always the same.
For instance Adventists are inundated with “the Sabbath is such a joy, a day of rest”, the adults repeat this in church, then go home for a guilt afternoon of napping while the teens are bored stiff, looking forward to sundown to be free from the burden.
All religions have their stern restrictions that young people resent.
I guess I’ll leave it at that.
You have basically summed up my experience! Raised as an Adventist. Most ex S.D.A. 's hang onto religion in some form of other most of their lives. Before becoming Atheist! I could never overcome the phycology damage that was done! My life of what could have done was totally destroyed! - old man ATHEIST!?
You speak for yourself and foolish. A story is told of two boy's growing up with an abusive dad. Later in years one of them was interviewed why he is what he is, a total washout. He blamed his dad. The other boy who become very successful in life also was interviewed. He said it's because of his dad, he decided not to follow in his dad's footsteps. Don't confuse the bible with tradition. The bible is written by holy men under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. God reveals Himself and His will and The plan of redemption through this word. Because He is a God of love He does not force. Through the Holy Spirit He is saying to you, choose this day who you shall serve in the struggle between good and evil, between God and Satan.
@@robertchilders8698 SDA's did so so MUCH damage in my life it meets the definition of a CULT
You all have thrown the baby with the basin water, to bad! I was an Adventist for more than 30 years and I do not feel bad because from that religion I learned good healthy habits. The Sabbath day brought me in but the Sabbath rest in Jesus, every day took me out. Creation by God gives us a marvelous inheritance, evolution gives you a gorilla ancestry, foolishness that from nothing you get all the beauty that surrounds us and space marvel that is perfectly functioning. You can believe in God and His salvation through His Son without the trapping of a denomination. You can study God’s Word and truth in the Bible who has the beginning and end of this world we live in. Don’t be an empty brain with no answers for this how and why we are here, you will find the answers in Our Father teachings and feel the peace they provide and the most magnificent LOVE you will ever know and have.📖❤️
@@robertchilders8698 No Way! They find love in Sola Scriptura,Solo Gratia, Solo Faith and Solo Christo. Atheism is emptiness , darkness and no answers - Zero!