ThinkPad Z13 Gen 2 REVIEW - Nouveau ThinkPad!
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
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Video Index:
00:00 Intro
01:29 Pros & Cons
01:43 Specs & Pricing
02:21 Unboxing, Size & Build
04:34 Ports & Connections
05:14 Internals & User Upgradeability
07:04 Display
09:21 IR Webcam, Mics & Fingerprint Reader
10:41 Performance, Benchmarks & Gaming
12:39 Thermals, Surface Temps & Fan Noise
13:38 Battery Life
14:13 Hinges, Keyboard & Pointing Devices
16:06 Audio & Speaker Test
18:28 Pros & Cons
19:12 The Score
19:16 Outro - Розваги
Congrats on your award, Andrew. You have worked very hard on your channel and your content and you more than deserve the recognition, well done!
Thank you very much!
Great to see the OLED version in the review. I saw the flax fiber version at multi client event and really liked it. They grey/black is okay, but fingerprints...
Glad you are feeling better, Andrew.
Thank you for the review!
Weak port selection and small battery are definitely some of the negatives here which will put off a lot of people in my opinion. The soldered RAM is standard practice for a small laptop however not an issue as you can upgrade to a maximum of 64GB during the ordering process. As this was a pre-production model, I'm sure the 1080p webcam is not an issue and the internal mics sounded very clear. Once again, while the internal speakers sounded good for a Windows laptop, it is still no comparison to the MacBook Pro's much fuller sound quality. The gorgeous 400 nits OLED display is another positive but no option for 120Hz refresh rate is also another negative. Great video Andrew and I'm glad you're feeling much better! 👍😁
Having an AMD processor is supposedly an advantage to getting a good battery life, but is offset by a small capacity battery. Another con is the lack of port selection.
Another few cons are the keyboard, which isn't as good as an X1 Carbon or 2 in 1 and the touchpad is awful when used with the trackpoint. I use it all the time on my Thinkpad T25 which I'm using while I wait for my Framework Laptop 16 to come. The T25 is the very last ThinkPad to come with the old 7 row keyboard, but cannot officially go to Windows 11 (but I installed Linux on it and it's working well)!
it's a small laptop, but I agree on the lack of port selection.
@@RM-el3gw Port selection is a big problem. Even the X1 Carbon and 2 in 1 have a much better port selection!
Not sure how old you are my friend but alot of these Ultra Portable/Thin and Light notebooks have always had few ports. Now days if you are the target demographic for this machine it has everything you'd need, again from something this size. Also comparable to others of this same size, specs and weight. I know its not alot but most are just using it as is or connected to a monitor/tv, or a second laptop for more ports/horsepower for actual work.
@@chrisbullock6477 I don't know how my age is relevant here. I have the asus zenbook S13 which weighs 200g less, has 67Wh battery, has more usb c port (new models even have hdmi port). This laptop has no excuse not to have those considering it weighs 200g more then the asus
You sound as if you are still sick. Bless you.
I like your video. Especially about ThinkPads.
Nice review. Thanks!
Glad you're better now Andrew.
I know your're an award winning online tech content creator but may I say your the best Bub! LOL! Speedy recovery from the CES flu.
Thanks 🙏
Andrew, top review as always. Between this and the HP spectre x360 14" that you recently reviewed, which one has the better haptic touchpad in ur opinion?
love to see your review on the CES GPU based laptops, and the winner of 2024?
Somehow strange is that in Switzerland it’s only possible to buy the z13 g2 trough the Lenovo official website. No cellular options and price starts at USD 1700
Not sure if you can say but was there any talk from Lenovo about upgrading to 8000 series soon or is it only likely at the end of the year? It is a really nice design but I am interested seeing how the new XPS's, the updated X1 Carbon and the G14 perform first?
Can’t wait for the x13 review
andrew, just to clear this up for me, can you charge the laptop from both ports? i like to run the power cord from the right hand side of the device so this is important to me.
Nice PC. Remember only one USB-C port available when plugged in. Port selection fair. Speakers sounded flat when compared to the MAC but remember most users will not have a MAC nearby when using this pc. Most people will get used to the sound on this which is still pretty good. Camera is fair but if it is because of this particular unit then it is no big deal. Display is good. Keyboard looks okay. Gfreat review.
Hey Great content. By the way when you are reviewing Lenovo Slim 7i or Yoga Pro 7i. I am very confused in these names. I want a review which have new meteor lake processor.
What is the coil whine like? What about with headphones/mic plugged in? Some recent lenovo laptops are notorious for it, more than most other brands
Good option for those who want an ultra portable ryzen 7840u laptop with more than 16 gigs of ram.
This seems like a direct response to the HP pavilion 14 plus. The pavilion beats this out in almost every category except not having more larger ram options.
Hope hp responds in turn with a refreshed line of pavilions with more ram
Lenovo probably offers better build quality though, haven't heard great things about HPs build quality.
I think that this tries to compete with laptops like XPS 13 right ?
Tbh this is what XPS 13 should have been with ryzen
@@drishalballaney6590 Ryzen has lot of issues thatswhy most brands use Intel.
Now Intel Core ULTRA has the best BATTERY LIFE so Intel is now best overall package for laptops.
Which do you prefer between the standard trackpad and the sensel haptic touchpad?
Sir ces lenovo laptops has Intel Core ultra series 1 so if they are new EVO certified so intel started webcam test "very important VCX metric."
Thatswhy almost all new EVO laptops with Core ultra will have super excellent webcam.
Must check black EVO sticker.😊
Sir please bring more Intel Core Ultra series 1, Meteor Lake laptops.
Does anyone know why there isn’t a single review on UA-cam for the new intel 11th gen, nvidia rtx 3050 Acer ConceptD 3 Ezel CC314-73G ?😭
andrew where is the P16S gen2 Review
i hope you will review asus zenbook 14x oled amd version
Is it 2 ports with one usb4 channel each or do the 2 ports share one usb4 channel?
Again, they just can't get the arrow keys right? Same with Enter..
Andrew, from a professional point of view/use would you go for the Z13 or X1 Carbon?
It depends. I want to see the performance on the meteor lake version of the X1 Carbon before I decide
3 months later, what do you think about this laptop?
For such a small screen, I think the IPS version is a better choice, especially with the extra battery savings.
Can you do a versus z13 vs thinkbook x13?
AMD laptops are absolutely amazing! I the advantages vs intel nowadays are very noticeable if you ever do the switch... last year i had an intel gaming laptop with an i7-12700h and a 3070ti and my battery life was absolutely horrible! and my performance on battery was just as bad... now i bought a laptop with a ryzen 9 7940hs and a 4070 and my battery life lasts at least 2-3x as much and i dont lose any performance on battery! the powerful iGPU is also amazing especially with dial monitor setups... i have my main gaming display connected to my dGPU and my 4k60hz connected to my iGPU and since theyre connected to both GPUs i never get any loss of performance from either the 4k display or my gaming display!
Intel Core ULTRA also never loose performance on battery. Every UA-camrs said that.
"Hardware Canucks" preproduction unit review of Zenbook 14 with ULTRA 7 155H. It is the FASTEST video editing machine even at 25 Watt total SoC power limit and way better than any AMD 4nm/5nm APU.
@@HDRPC bro ur comparing an h high performance chip to a u low powered chip... compare the u to u or H to HS bro then I'll have a real comparison 💀💀
Only ULTRA 9 185H is 45 Watt.
ULTRA 7 and ULTRA 5 are 28 Watt like 7840U.
@@scott8833
@@scott8833
"Hardware Canucks" preproduction unit review of Zenbook 14 with ULTRA 7 155H. It is the FASTEST video editing machine even at 25 Watt total SoC power limit and way FASTER than 30 W AMD 7840HS and 7840U
Standard question from me is the 1080p screen option is matt sceen? As this sceen apparently off the table for me.
there are 3 configs: 1200p IPS matte non touch, 1200p IPS glossy antireflective touch, 2.8K OLED glossy antireflective touch
@@snorlatopus Thank you very much for info. Adding this to the short list!
two fans on such a small laptop? Surprising
Congrats on the award,., hope you get over that cold ;)
Thanks, feeling better!
Not a performance powerhouse but a fantastic travel work laptop. Looks like fair tradeoffs instead of trying to do it all.
Hmmm I don’t think this will sell well - poor io, anaemic cpu performance even for that U series, surprisingly throttling despite decent external thermals, noise, and a fairly advanced cooling solution.. not even a 90hz.. I know Lenovo discount stuff regularly but even then this seems poor value and already outdated compared to other stuff that’s out now…
A couple of friendly suggestions AMD! it doesn’t really work to compare only total TimeSpy and FireStrike scores between generation models as an example of improved GPU performance, as those scores take in both CPU and GPU, which in this case are throttling. It would be better to show GT1, GT2 AND total, to give an idea of how much the iGPU has improved… that, or maybe add previous gen to the game results also.
Also, although you note in the pros and cons that sadly this has no high refresh option, it would be great to add the screen refresh Hz to the display section of the Specs, for all your reviews 👍
Mucho love ❤
only two ports ?
Congrats Andrew 🥳 Now tell Lenovo to make a real convertible Slim Pro 9i 😛
Thanks. 🙏
I always love reviews with a pcmark 10 gaming test. Although the battery life looks ugly (
You will get those in real life 100%
AMD lost efficiency and performance advantage against.
Now Intel Core ULTRA is the best overall package.
Pc mark gaming test is worst because i never want to do gaming on BATTERY POWER.
Battery is for content creation, office work, video playback on the go or in the home.
I wasn't really care about the battery life when I brought my Thinkpad E15. I am so bothered by the battery life in my 2 years of use, I can't even finish an one hour Teams meeting (with screen sharing and IDEs opened in the background) with a full battery. I have to take the charger with me all the time, even just having a short break from my desk.
I saw a lot of reviews or laptops with smaller battery than my E15. Some reviews reported a 8-10 hours battery life. Those reviews really scam buyers who are not into tech. We need some assurance of battery life like PCMark 10 gaming test.
@@user-qd4tn8le9b only Intel and Apple silicon can provide you great BATTERY LIFE and great performance.
@@HDRPC
About your first comment, the average power draw on my 10th gen intel laptop was around ~30-40W. I don't think by 4 generations the power consuption can improve 800%.
About your second comment. I also never game on my laptop, mostly just software development. PCMark 10 gaming is just to simulate the battery life under intensive load. We all occationaly work on heavy tasks on battery. its a good way to give you an assurance of minimum battery life.
I just don't what to buy a laptop that's advertised for 10 hours, but in reality only lasts 50 mins.
Prices are ridiculous right know it get to almost $3k for the configuration you have at $1,900
Mr. Andrew, Why are you haven't Review LAPTOP LENOVO THINKBOOK PLUS GEN 5 HYBRID? I think interesting for everyone 😂
Can I say a 2in1 laptop with 16 inches 4k OLED touch screen gaming performance
Andrew keep it up you r doing great job 🎉🎉.
I want to ask you a question, I am planning to buy MacBook Air M2 13” with 8 core Cpu and 10 core GPU with 16 gb RAM and 1 Tb ssd. I wanted to ask how will it be for intense coding. Can you please guide me by Replying 🥺🥺
First !
I am seeing Intel Core Ultra Chiplet achitecture is more efficient than AMD 4nm monolithic, what and almost as efficient as Apple monolithic. woooooow
Super impressive. 🎉🎉
60hz is a absolute killer, sad.
purchase links are dead.
Works fine on my end
@@andrewmarcdavid I tried 2 different browsers and I do not have a VPN on. hmmmm somethings a mif. I am now in USA PA
I would rather prefer a notch than this lip at the top
the only few PC that can beat Mac on weight and portability~
I use a mac for personal use and was just given one of these from work and I have to say I am very impressed with it. Such a great machine.
I'm buying a Mackbook Pro for that kind of money. That laptop should be under $ 900.00.
You're joking right?
Good luck with your base model 8GB RAM / 512 GB SSD macbook pro ;)
Actually soldered ram is a pro not a con
until something goes wrong with the RAM rendering the laptop unusable.
@@andrewmarcdavid never had a RAM failure in consumer devices in 35 years.
Apparently, lenovo will never get apple macbook's webcam quality
If you have Intel Core ULTRA Evo laptops you will get MacBook level webcam and sometime better.
Intel has new camera testing in new EVO linup.
You can check his reviews of Hp spectre, Zenbook 14.
More are coming so wait.
Congratulations again Sir for Hot Tech Award 2024.
Sir, HP spectre X360 14 2024 with Intel Core ULTRA 7 155H rendered your 3 min 4K H.264 video in 2 min 18 seconds which is way FASTER than Apple M2 Pro/M3 pro/M1 pro in your channel. Insane.
There is no difference from m1 pro to M3 pro in H.264/H.265 video encoding.
I have seen same testing in your channel with M1 Pro and it did in 3 min 20 seconds.
Intel is FASTER without dGPU and Intel Core ULTRA series 1 has MacBook Pro(2023) level of BATTERY LIFE.
MacBook Pro will provide you 7% to 15% better battery life than Intel Core ULTRA but still Intel provided great efficiency in Chiplet architecture which is super impressive.
Thanks 🙏
Most Welcome
@@andrewmarcdavid
Common Intel fanboy L
@@scott8833i have shared reality. Intel did it. Intel really nailed this time even on Chiplet which is World's first for thin and light PC.
AMD and Apple are using monolithic.
Think pad is the only one better
OLED and only 8 hours battery life - come on... who wants that?
As I mentioned the 51.5 Wh battery is on the small side. Expect better battery life with the FHD+ IPS options.
what ? we search about amd Ryzen 8840U , lenovo make one with 7840u, hahh😆
we hope they make 2in1 laptopp with the new ryzen 8840u with good config like HP spectre x360
Spectre x360 14 and 16 has Intel Core ULTRA.
Thanks to again AMD delays.
Mac book win in terms of speaker
Am I the only person who gets annoyed but the trackpad being off center? Also this laptop wouldnhebperfeft if it was a 14 in laptop.
Thinkbook 13x 2024 is better.
Worse battery than z13 gen 1 🤷♂️
Because of the OLED screen (That's the unit Marc has and mentioned it in the video. Draws more battery plus they suffer from PWM flickering and they wear out over time much quicker due to the organic compound used). IPS would be better since these drawbacks are eliminated as that's what general users typically need. As Andrew Marc says in his videos: those that are content creators and want an extremely colour accurate, they can go with OLED option (just reiterating, so I can have a more detailed argument). With an IPS, when deciding to buy a new laptop to meet your personal needs, go with the 400 nits option (with 100% sRGB color coverage - colours don't look washed out, but colours should still be excellent). Touch screen options are good for those that want it, but it drains the battery faster. Hopefully everything makes sense!
@@smartxmusculado yeah, PWM subreddit always avoid this like a plague.
only two ports ?