Jobs: End of the Line - We the People

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  • Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
  • This film was originally broadcast on Al Jazeera English in the run-up to the US elections in 2008.
    There are few places in the United States currently suffering more economic woes than the mid-west state of Ohio. Traditionally a major industrial center the state has seen more than a quarter of a million manufacturing jobs disappear in the last eight years.
    Ohio has always proved to be a key battleground for US presidential elections - an all-important swing state. This year will be no different and the worsening economic situation has already prompted the presidential candidates to invest heavily in courting the state's voters with promises of new jobs.
    In Dayton, a city of 160,000 people in western Ohio, manufacturing jobs once thrived, but today those well paying positions are almost impossible to find.
    Delphi, the auto parts producer for General Motors and one of the city's main employers, shut five of their six plants. It also filed for bankruptcy in the US, after outsourcing hundreds of thousands of jobs to other countries like Mexico or China.
    We the People travelled to Dayton to listen to how people are getting by with almost no prospect for restoring their core manufacturing industry.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 542

  • @myronvenero9371
    @myronvenero9371 7 років тому +195

    why are most of these towns built around one or two industries. As soon as a plant closes, society literally falls apart.

    • @queenb4734
      @queenb4734 6 років тому +26

      that's how America was made

    • @johnh8705
      @johnh8705 6 років тому +1

      Myron Venero the Washington D.C area is going strong

    • @DianaCarolinaGirl22
      @DianaCarolinaGirl22 5 років тому +4

      That's America!

    • @yesimemoin0935
      @yesimemoin0935 5 років тому +9

      The irony is that these small towns are the beneficiaries of "outsourcing" from bigger cities. Companies relocate for cheap land, cheap labor and lower taxes. After ten years, everyone acts like the jobs have always been there and will never leave

    • @girlwiththebraidsinherhair2516
      @girlwiththebraidsinherhair2516 5 років тому +3

      @@DianaCarolinaGirl22 not only in America but all over the world including the UK where I live.

  • @kagasaki6
    @kagasaki6 5 років тому +45

    The last scene was poignant; he sits down on the bed when he hears the recorder say in a sprightly voice from an indifferent young woman that he doesn’t need to go back to work, and to come back to the agency tomorrow to find something else. His eyes become glassy, he slumps down, and we see tears build behind his eyes before he breathes in deeply and refrains from crying on camera. Such a hardworking man, so tired, and his future seems so uncertain. He’s older, his car is breaking down, and I speculate that his age works against him for employers. What are we doing that this uncertain future is repeated over and over again across our nation? Why can’t we change...?

    • @williamhorvat8224
      @williamhorvat8224 5 років тому +3

      Yeah. I agree that he is upset but holds back from breaking down.

    • @seangreene1974
      @seangreene1974 5 років тому +5

      a number reasons... to name a few: (1)We keep falling for the "sales pitch" ..from Corporations and/or Politicians ... (2)We don't know about or dont WANT to learn about corporate shareholders, board of directors, etc. who approve of these decisions to move jobs around.

    • @ByRaymondFerguson
      @ByRaymondFerguson 4 роки тому +4

      Universal basic income is a MUST in the US. Vote Andrew Yanf

    • @DIVISIONINCISION
      @DIVISIONINCISION 4 роки тому +1

      There are many factors at work here, Publius. He invested his career in manufacturing, which is a big No-No. He doesn't have college education or a trade. The factory jobs are gone and not coming back. It's just too bad that he missed the boat. Always have a fall-back plan.

  • @a.citizen7668
    @a.citizen7668 5 років тому +29

    The young couple made the same mistake millions made - they used up all their funds trying to maintain that house. They should have stayed in it until it was foreclosed on. Their credit was going to be ruined any way. You might as well ruin it yourself and have some survival money in your pocket. Upper middle class people who lost their jobs did this too. They paid the $4K or $5K monthly mortgage until they eventually lost the home. They could have just saved all the money had. You need to start predicting the future.

  • @ShannonsBibleStudy
    @ShannonsBibleStudy 5 років тому +57

    I think the young man will be OK and that includes his marriage. He has youth on his side. I felt terrible for the older man. That voice mail was like a punch to the gut.

    • @DIVISIONINCISION
      @DIVISIONINCISION 4 роки тому +5

      The writing is on the wall. He needs to move out. I know his family has roots there, but Dayton is dead. Like many areas of the Midwest.

    • @thedhive6512
      @thedhive6512 3 роки тому +1

      Not with a disloyal wife like that. Soon as he lost his job she ran off but realized her options were horrible and ran back

  • @karacreswell8437
    @karacreswell8437 6 років тому +68

    The family at the beginning broke my heart. Soo many people in their situation. They were basically set up to fail so that the 1% could benefit off their demise. Until we fix the rigged system, this will continue to happen....and it will happen to the most vulnerable of our population.

    • @thedhive6512
      @thedhive6512 3 роки тому +2

      espcially since as soon as times got rough she tried to leave him for greener pastures. Realized every man in her area was going through the same thing then ran back. poor guy

    • @schan9547
      @schan9547 Рік тому

      "and it will happen to the most vulnerable of our population." The most vulnerable may be the first to fall, they won't be the last.

  • @commentlyspeakingtruthwhis7220
    @commentlyspeakingtruthwhis7220 5 років тому +34

    I'd love to see an update to these stories.

  • @ronwhiteleo3352
    @ronwhiteleo3352 6 років тому +69

    what happen to through 'sickness and in health, rich or for poor'... cmon people.. buying a house is the American nightmare, not dream...

    • @cgreen777
      @cgreen777 6 років тому +2

      ron whiteleo... Yea whatever happen to that. Money gone, you gone...

    • @stephanieduncan9143
      @stephanieduncan9143 5 років тому +2

      @@cgreen777 🗣️ EXACTLY ✌🏾

    • @dondressel4802
      @dondressel4802 5 років тому +4

      I keep telling my girlfriend that
      It’s a struggle to own a house here in California
      Our house payment is choking us financially
      I want out of California as it’s ridiculously expensive

    • @nstl440
      @nstl440 4 роки тому +3

      He bought it for 60k. They could have just saved 60k and buy wothout mortgage.

    • @biggmixxo
      @biggmixxo 4 роки тому +1

      Exactly

  • @heatherbrooks1979
    @heatherbrooks1979 6 років тому +135

    A 20-minute drive to work is bad? I would do anything to have that short commute!

    • @corgifloofi4840
      @corgifloofi4840 5 років тому +24

      when you can't afford gasoline yeah thats bad.

    • @ElectronicPleasure
      @ElectronicPleasure 5 років тому +3

      @Nadine SchneiderCycle, I do it everyday

    • @delroyholness6904
      @delroyholness6904 5 років тому

      @@ElectronicPleasure gft33eeeeee3e3333333ee332

    • @karensolbeck7459
      @karensolbeck7459 5 років тому +4

      A 20-minute commute is nothing! Try living in an area with a lot of people. It can take that long to drive to the nearest store sometimes, depending on the time of day.

    • @shadowspire
      @shadowspire 5 років тому +4

      @khizottt88 this is America, many who dont live here realize how long a "20 min drive is" for example I live in Northern San Diego county and my commute is 30-45 mins each day to and from work so I leave my house and have to 60miles away I leave at 6am to arrive at my work place at least 15 mins early to avoid traffic because that commute could easily turn into a 1hr+ drive. In a day I drive over 120miles in one day. And its difficult if you dont have a car, especially in Ca, because the state was solely designed get around in Cars and you cant take the freeway(highway) in a bicycle(for the riders safety.) Any vehicle that cannot reach 60mph or more is not allowed into the freeway. As for gas prices they are crazy expensive here in Cali, (highest in the nation) so if you got to commute 120 miles your car will guzzle through gas like crazy. For me personally with my small v6 truck I would spend $80.00 every week, that's $320.00 a month. I cant get a compact car because I carry tools for work. Now imagine people making minimum wage cant afford that especially if they commute that long. Even with compact car you might spend 120.00 a month just on gas. And minimum wage earners make about 1,600usd per month after taxes, then you have rent, a small condo will set you back at least 900 to 1,000 a month, plus utilities and food. Thankfully I can afford that "lazy 20 min commute, you would be glad to do on a bike" but only because I make far more than the minimum wage plus the company pays 50% of my gas bill, but there are people who can't. And taking the bus is even worse my mom worked 25miles(west towards del mar) away and she would take the bus when she was called in for work at 8am she would take the 6am take one to our cities downtown transit station then wait for the bus west bound and that would arrive anywhere fro 6:45 to 7:00. She would get to her stop and walk another 20 mins or so, her employer was fine with her being late as they new she didnt drive, I couldn't take her because I work about 15 maybe 20 miles from the U.S-Mexico border, but when I did have the chance to drop her off at work that 2hr commute on the bus turned into a 30-40 min drive because of traffic.

  • @blt171
    @blt171 3 роки тому +6

    "Misery is contagious" - That x-GM worker is very bright and capable. Wish him and his family the best.

  • @alanwilson2073
    @alanwilson2073 6 років тому +65

    I feel for the guy with diabetes, he was losing his jobs because he had no life force in an extremely competitive environment. One wrong move, or even the slightest appearance of slacking off or weakness and you're gone.

    • @tycobandit
      @tycobandit 5 років тому +7

      Alan Wilson agreed, Japanese production facilities go all out in terms of efficiency. If there is one inefficient/wasteful process or employee in production they’re eliminated immediately. For the employee that usually means reassignment or re-training but if you can’t keep up or can’t make improvements, your fired. edit: and if your used to a union factory environment like GM or Delphi your in for rude awakening.

    • @DIVISIONINCISION
      @DIVISIONINCISION 4 роки тому +3

      He needs to move or go back to school. The days of being handed a union trade job are over. The labor force is changing.

  • @a.citizen7668
    @a.citizen7668 5 років тому +74

    It's always wise when people are married - if both are working to save one of the incomes for a rainy day. If you're single, you have to be even more diligent in saving money for hard times. Nothing lasts forever, especially jobs! You get older and you get replaced. That's the bottom line. I lived it. I learned. I prepare for the future constantly and I'm no spring chicken!

    • @kimberly6211
      @kimberly6211 4 роки тому +13

      How can people save? It takes two incomes now to even pay bills

    • @ICHOOSERIGHTEOUSNESS
      @ICHOOSERIGHTEOUSNESS 4 роки тому +5

      Kim Stell Exactly! Saving money is a thing of the past.

    • @jacobjacob4139
      @jacobjacob4139 4 роки тому +5

      Once upon a time, I used to admire the United States of America.

    • @kawazaki23
      @kawazaki23 4 роки тому +1

      @@jacobjacob4139 Same here but thank GOD I never moved to United States

    • @terrylynn9984
      @terrylynn9984 4 роки тому +4

      Many years ago a couple could do that, even 20 years ago, but today with stagnation of wages, higher utilities, rent , food and mortgage, both incomes are required on the weekly.
      What worked for the silent gen, the boomer gen, even my Gen X generation, no longer applies to the Millennials who are well into their 30s or Gen z.
      Times change, prepare for what future exactly most need to pay off college loans, saddled with childcare, and just life.

  • @edfox8389
    @edfox8389 5 років тому +11

    UPDATE: The couple, they stayed together, he opened his own barber show, his wife helps run the place. The wife does braids and extensions in the back. They are both balling. The old guy, at 58 he limped along with temp jobs until 62,he collected on social security. He financed a brand new rv and moved to some rural land he was able to buy very cheap at a tax auction. He met a girl on plenty of fish. They are both living very happy lives. They discovered a field of rare ginseng that they started taking. They both became like 16 year olds again. He fathered six more children into his 70's. They made tons of money selling the Ginseng over in Asia. He also travels internationally speaking about habits of successful people.

  • @larhondah.2793
    @larhondah.2793 4 роки тому +20

    Politics aside. This is sad. Hard working people with good backgrounds can't keep work but will work anywhere.....🙏

  • @nickyoung630
    @nickyoung630 4 роки тому +34

    I drive 40 minutes to get to work, 20 minutes would be such a nice time cut

  • @lvteachme973
    @lvteachme973 5 років тому +57

    Mistake: Relying on an employer to provide for you and your family. A business can close or fire you at anytime. An education and marketable skills is what a person should always have. This way, you can find work someplace else even if you have to move out-of-state or work as an independent contractor.

    • @eliyahbenysrael3903
      @eliyahbenysrael3903 4 роки тому +4

      LV Teach Me Capitalism produces these results all the time, sooner or later. Thats it's design...

    • @biggmixxo
      @biggmixxo 4 роки тому +1

      Yep

    • @pennypillow4445
      @pennypillow4445 4 роки тому +3

      the problem is if you grow up poor and cant make it through college then you have no chance

    • @dexterziebarth291
      @dexterziebarth291 4 роки тому +1

      @@pennypillow4445 not with that attitude

    • @harmony3279
      @harmony3279 Рік тому

      @@pennypillow4445
      There is financial aid.

  • @Manny-gf9gm
    @Manny-gf9gm 5 років тому +77

    This is a lesson...pay off debts, when ur having good times...

    • @delaciwoods8864
      @delaciwoods8864 4 роки тому +6

      That is true

    • @jeannette2628
      @jeannette2628 4 роки тому +2

      most ppl can't pay off a house in a couple years

    • @DIVISIONINCISION
      @DIVISIONINCISION 4 роки тому +11

      That's common sense. Americans don't save money. About 75% don't even have $5K stashed away for an emergency fund!

    • @markwhittaker6866
      @markwhittaker6866 4 роки тому

      @ben yosep
      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ezwayocho8296
      @ezwayocho8296 4 роки тому +8

      Even better lesson? DON'T use credit cards! ✂️💳
      Cut them all up to remove temptation. And never look back! DEBT FREE is the way to be😀👍

  • @CarmelaPattillo
    @CarmelaPattillo 4 роки тому +4

    I grew up in Ohio. It is a manufacturing region. The best jobs are working in factories there. My dad, my grandpa, even my mom for a while worked in the factories. Now there are fewer and fewer of those jobs. I get a little sad whenever I go home to visit because so much of the town is closed up or closing up. The Midwest is really suffering and that suffering is spreading through out the country. It’s going to take more than a new president to fix these systemic problems in America. In some ways we are living like a third world county. We have to vote for people who are about the regular working people. We have to vote on all levels too. Local, county, state, federal elections. We have to save ourselves.

    • @8ofwands300
      @8ofwands300 2 роки тому

      Did tRump change anything?? Because I know Ohio loves trump. 😒

  • @vbabe360
    @vbabe360 5 років тому +19

    "It was like misery was getting real contagious around here." Sounds about it.

  • @normanperez9096
    @normanperez9096 4 роки тому +24

    We have to realize that the American dream of yesteryear is long gone, technology is taking over and sadly it's not getting any better for us working class, We are a dying breed unfortunately.

    • @sierrachoco5271
      @sierrachoco5271 3 роки тому

      @Jarod Armstrong I think Norman is right unfortunately!

    • @sierrachoco5271
      @sierrachoco5271 3 роки тому

      @Norman - I agree with you, these politicians are telling coal miners and other working class to learn coding! Really? ?

  • @josephjohnson345
    @josephjohnson345 5 років тому +11

    Until you realize that the power you need to change the course of your life is not ANYONE outside of you. But you make the choice...

  • @claudiamariebermudez6727
    @claudiamariebermudez6727 6 років тому +73

    It is sad we have lost our manufacturing base in this country.

    • @Beamshipcaptain
      @Beamshipcaptain 5 років тому +6

      Companies value money over employees making a living. Cannot blame them. But Something needs to be done ASAP, and Trump will not.

    • @trulyblessed5254
      @trulyblessed5254 5 років тому

      @@BeamshipcaptainNo, it's the employees that value money and the employer value ideas and their employees participation.

    • @chrysichrysi7889
      @chrysichrysi7889 5 років тому +1

      In most western countries not just the U.S. they're selling out to cheaper production costs. Teaching chinese employees instead of western ones then realize only later, that the chinese are taking over with western taught knowledge. 🤷

    • @johnsonjoseph4236
      @johnsonjoseph4236 5 років тому +1

      You have to blame politicians for the soldiers there in Middle East for destruction of countries like Iraq ,Libya , Syria , Vietnam, Afghanistan were you are fighting Endless war which cost most of the taxpayers and they loose these marked also .

    • @DIVISIONINCISION
      @DIVISIONINCISION 4 роки тому

      The rules have changed, Claudia. Education is the future. Pretty soon you'll need a Master's to compete out there.

  • @MsShockJ
    @MsShockJ 4 роки тому +6

    He was providing for her, she didn't have to work but, as soon as he was layed off she's going off on him over unpaid bills and then left him. He should drop her. What will she do after he loses a barber job, leave him again???

  • @darlingsarah826
    @darlingsarah826 5 років тому +9

    This broke my heart.

  • @ChristopherInTexas
    @ChristopherInTexas 4 роки тому +10

    Both should've been working. If you rely on one single employer you're risking everything. Get a career with a license so you can work anywhere.

  • @betseyterry844
    @betseyterry844 5 років тому +9

    Give us a update on these families.

  • @mikelee2213
    @mikelee2213 5 років тому +11

    My sympathies. I hope you all have found a good paying job, and are back on your feet again.

  • @alanonimo8979
    @alanonimo8979 5 років тому +75

    Capitalism at work. Corporations care about profit, not you.

    • @MrNastydread
      @MrNastydread 5 років тому +5

      If no one has money, how do they profit.

    • @brandonwombacher2559
      @brandonwombacher2559 4 роки тому +2

      What do you recommend? Socialism?

    • @biggmixxo
      @biggmixxo 4 роки тому

      Its called oppression

    • @truegrit4752
      @truegrit4752 4 роки тому +3

      Most people don't understand what socialism is. Trump depends heavily upon socialism - he's filed for bankruptcy countless times. That is socializing his losses.

    • @infinitelove3221
      @infinitelove3221 4 роки тому +3

      Absolutely. You have to be firm. Consume less, if you can take public transportation do it, do not own a mortgage; but a fixer upper, DO NOT observe NO holidays.

  • @gdcskates
    @gdcskates 4 роки тому +8

    it started back in the late 80's. Finally the rest of the country feels my pain.

  • @waynehowell431
    @waynehowell431 3 роки тому +2

    A very well produced documentary. thanks.

  • @samanthapeters2972
    @samanthapeters2972 6 років тому +24

    I used to travel 1hr 40min to work. Some of my friends drive to a train station, and then travel on train for 35min. Because everyone knows you have to go to the job, unless your working from home. Staying within a small area, competing for jobs is like trying to win lottery.
    I'm surprised none of these people look for jobs outside of America. There's cruise ships always advertising for cleaners, chefs, waiters, etc. Some countries offer good paying seasonal work.

    • @zunaiandre2341
      @zunaiandre2341 6 років тому +1

      Samantha Peters lol cruiseships need passport.How many Americans know of that?

  • @ssunshyne9479
    @ssunshyne9479 4 роки тому +8

    He was delusional talking bout he thought GM cared about him..

  • @goldenaxechuck3515
    @goldenaxechuck3515 4 роки тому +6

    The greed in the world has no limits.

  • @Gigilovehugs
    @Gigilovehugs 4 роки тому +3

    Adjustable rate mortgage is dome from the beginning

  • @LadyKaydabs
    @LadyKaydabs 3 роки тому +3

    The first mistake was thinking a single income which the husband informed was for bill paying would sustain a family. It's so important, and if at all possible to have savings. I'm not demonizing this family- I'm just considering that perhaps they could have had a safety net if the wife was employed BEFORE his lay off. I hope all works out for them.

  • @chrysichrysi7889
    @chrysichrysi7889 5 років тому +13

    It's easy to judge from the outside looking in, the last guy just looked like he was 5 minutes away from giving up completely. Hope this show encouraged a buisness owner to contact him for a job offer, perhaps with on the job training.

  • @BIuey
    @BIuey 6 років тому +10

    evil works really well for distroying family by financial frustration..

  • @a.citizen7668
    @a.citizen7668 5 років тому +16

    When it becomes clear that marriage and children will not be part of your future, you need to be extra diligent in preparing for the future and your quality of retirement. Reduction of debt should be priority on your list and eating and staying healthy. No time for vices when you are trying to maintain a quality life.

    • @C_oboe
      @C_oboe 4 роки тому

      but marriage and children are a burden ...?

    • @DIVISIONINCISION
      @DIVISIONINCISION 4 роки тому +2

      @@C_oboe YES, baby C O, the are!

    • @harmony3279
      @harmony3279 Рік тому

      @DIVISIONINCISION no they are not if you build yourself financially first,.

  • @unknownsoul1206
    @unknownsoul1206 5 років тому +9

    So I live in ohio, and it's awful here. Unless you're ready to work 7 days a week, and break your back doing it; there's nothing for you. Most jobs (where I am) pay maybe $11/hr, and it's not easy to survive on that. In Ohio you are a slave, always on the precipice of losing everything. It wasn't until I moved to California that I realized life doesn't have to be this way. I had to come back to Ohio because my dad was diagnosed with esophageal cancer, and it's a wake up call. I'm about to go back and live in my car, just for the opportunity for a better life. It kills me to leave my family behind, but there's nothing for me here. If anyone out there is thinking of Ohio, make sure it's what you want. Because you WILL be on the edge of destruction the entire time. No one here cares if you live or die, if you can afford to eat. I'm choosing to live in my car, rather than become a wage slave like everyone else here in Ohio. It's only the haves and have nots here.

  • @sealie15
    @sealie15 7 років тому +88

    Did he just complain that his wife's job is a 20 minute drive 😳🙄

    • @ImprovementisGrowth
      @ImprovementisGrowth 7 років тому +27

      He's complaining about the gas, no public transportation and that's hard,

    • @Soorkh
      @Soorkh 7 років тому +2

      HAHAHHAHAHAHA

    • @MsSassyMT
      @MsSassyMT 6 років тому +9

      Right but I get it. With one income, that's too far. Ideally, something in walking distance would be better.

    • @thorick590
      @thorick590 6 років тому +5

      When I was younger I saved a lot of money by getting around by bicycle when I could. When I needed to take my young son somewhere he rode in the child seat. When he got older, he got his own bike. GM would like me to think that if you don't have a car you're stuck, but it isn't always true..

    • @letinhsong8024
      @letinhsong8024 6 років тому +7

      I know, I laughed about that too, but when unemployment is in the picture, and gas is $15-$20 a day, that's significant. REAL significant. But at the same time...most people would feel LUCKY if they only had to spend 20 minutes to get to work!

  • @sabinjiji3286
    @sabinjiji3286 8 років тому +70

    David Rayford and your wife seem to be good people.

    • @cedricliggins7528
      @cedricliggins7528 4 роки тому

      I Dave he is a good guy. He and his family are doing well now.

    • @emzywillrich7243
      @emzywillrich7243 3 роки тому

      He would have been better off relocating to another plant in another state like Texas where he could get a lot more for his money.

    • @thedhive6512
      @thedhive6512 3 роки тому +1

      his "wife" doesn't seem good. She ran as soon as he lost his job.

  • @gordonallen9095
    @gordonallen9095 6 років тому +16

    Automation and the globalization of industry and our economy has decimated the entry level, living wage job market. The manufacturing jobs and economy that supported workers and cities like Detroit, Youngstown, and Buffalo are gone never to return. The rise of “right to work” and the demise of collective bargaining has kept wages stagnant or low for the service jobs that remain. The middle class is slowly dying. Thanks to “trickle down” economics that has created a two tiered, zero sum, winner take all economy, there will be only two types of people in America; those who are wealthy, and the rest who are dirt poor. Welcome to the future.

    • @lucianorosel8128
      @lucianorosel8128 5 років тому +2

      Your my type of poet!

    • @fauxmanchu8094
      @fauxmanchu8094 5 років тому +2

      Gordon Allen Best comment. 💯💯💯

    • @Imperial0666
      @Imperial0666 4 роки тому +2

      the middle class is finished. we have a system that works well for the top 10% of the population. The rest of the population is struggling to stay afloat with a growing permanent homeless underclass.

  • @misterperez459
    @misterperez459 6 років тому +6

    Where are they now? Is there has there been an update

  • @jerryskeepero
    @jerryskeepero 4 роки тому +5

    I nearly died when he said he paid $60,000 for his house.... you would pay almost a million here in Toronto for that house.

  • @corrinajames8145
    @corrinajames8145 7 років тому +34

    what the. come on that ending is annoying. In NZ you have to have at least 4 weeks notice or 4 weeks pay after getting let go. I have only just gotten employed and everyone is wonder why I work so hard. The reason is I am greatful to have a job I love it, after being un employed for 6 months there's nothing better than getting into a good paying job

    • @zunaiandre2341
      @zunaiandre2341 6 років тому

      Corrina James aiii that's life and humanity but not is Las Ameriko

    • @jamestomoana6616
      @jamestomoana6616 6 років тому

      Way to go Corrina

  • @williamwilson6499
    @williamwilson6499 7 років тому +7

    History doesn't repeat but it rhymes. Same story for Dayton in the late 60s/early 70s.
    Remember it well.

  • @martingainty9623
    @martingainty9623 Рік тому +2

    I worked in beautiful Dayton Ohio during the Summer 2001 for NCR
    I made 100/hr and my hotel and RT flight was all bought and paid for by NCR
    The people I met at the Bar at the Dayton Marriott were some of the nicest people in the United States
    My heart goes out to these people whose jobs were all sent to China
    People who bought houses lost their houses to foreclosure
    People who were married are now all divorced
    I wished I had a solution for these good people

  • @isamargt
    @isamargt 4 роки тому +2

    12 years later and things have only gotten worse.

  • @The1daisey
    @The1daisey 6 років тому +11

    Not the ARM mortgage!!!

  • @CE000
    @CE000 6 років тому +7

    keep in mind that this documentary is from 2008

  • @hotandsoursoup2664
    @hotandsoursoup2664 6 років тому +9

    Is he F-ing kidding me, Barber school!

  • @michaellaw5801
    @michaellaw5801 6 років тому +48

    So Instead of teaming up to make it so y’all broke up and now y’all both can’t combine what y’all have to survive. I don’t think the marriage was about love.

    • @keneshaglover3578
      @keneshaglover3578 6 років тому +18

      Michaud Lormil thats what i was thinking. My husband lost his job after our youngest child was born and i got 2 jobs so he could not feel the pressure of the bills. It worked out for us. If i left my husband after a layoff thatvwould have been selfish on my part

    • @NC-ij9rb
      @NC-ij9rb 5 років тому +4

      Dude, they did get back together

    • @ChristinaOstil115
      @ChristinaOstil115 5 років тому +2

      Because you forgot about God

    • @charmainewalker8627
      @charmainewalker8627 5 років тому +3

      Don’t go there and judge these people. When stress comes in a relationship it can take a toll and not everyone can sustain. You have no right to talk about whether it was love in their relationship. Never judge someone until you have walked in their shoes. God bless this couple. They seem positive regardless of their situation

    • @sophia4christ
      @sophia4christ 5 років тому +4

      I agree. Maybe if they had worked together (meaning the wife stayed with him) he'd be doing some enterprise and they'd still have the house.

  • @maggie4619
    @maggie4619 6 років тому +3

    I hope that things get better for these people who are hard working but there are no jobs , its the most hopeless situation wanting to provide and work , but there are no jobs

  • @erin19030
    @erin19030 6 років тому +15

    In the period of your life yup have good luck or bad luck. Some do well early in life but others do better later in life. I began my work life at the bottom of the rung status and pay wise. After years of hard work I rose economically up the ladder. I could not own a house the first year I was married. That first house was a starter home, a row home in a modest neighborhood. After 32 years I made it to the top, a good salary and a nicer car. I was five years from retirement when BOOM , out of work at 60.fortunately I saved over the years and muddled through the year, going back for retraining. I survived! However it was three years at a lesser job and less money. Finally I landed a position teaching at an Ivy League college. The year I was to retire 2008 the banks and stock market crashed. Most of my 401 was wiped out. Three years later at 68 I retired due to poor health. The following 5 years I suffered, heart attack, colon cancer kidney disease and prostate cancer. My retirement and savings were wiped out. Today after 60 years in the workforce I am facing bankruptcy. Life was never meant to be fair.

    • @OowllwoO
      @OowllwoO 6 років тому +4

      james haldeman
      I feel sorry for what happened to you. You're strong and courageous, you have survived and faced it.
      Hope things will get better, I don't know how.

    • @northernwoman8960
      @northernwoman8960 6 років тому +3

      I have a similar work and health history. Life us not fair is correct. When will people realize
      that the world does not owe them anything, they need to earn it.

    • @cgreen777
      @cgreen777 6 років тому +7

      People do not realize that health is wealth. No health you loose everything. Over-working, over-stress grinds the body down. You get sick and old and you end up giving all that money right back to the system.

    • @ignazs.5816
      @ignazs.5816 6 років тому +3

      Sorry that you have gone through this. Yoy never think it will happen to you.

    • @ezwayocho8296
      @ezwayocho8296 4 роки тому

      They deliberately keep raising the age of retirement & rigging the system in hopes that people will die before reaching soc. sec. age 🤦😠

  • @JB-kx9bx
    @JB-kx9bx 3 роки тому +2

    Politicians won't tell people the truth that no job is safe and you might be thrown out in the cold at any moment. Automation, outsourcing, rapidly changing technology puts everything on the table for being eliminated.

  • @DarkHelmetNL
    @DarkHelmetNL 4 роки тому +5

    David: barbering is recession or poverty proof. Coronavirus: Hold my beer.....

  • @queenmaleficent6808
    @queenmaleficent6808 5 років тому +2

    My mother took the buyout and declined relocation and my father retired in 2005 I did have dreams to work there in Newark, Delaware but the closeout

  • @IglooDweller
    @IglooDweller 7 років тому +37

    Only you are responsible for yourself and your situation. Companies are not charities. Don't put all your skills in one basket.

    • @Jake.Gentry
      @Jake.Gentry 6 років тому +2

      IglooDweller exaclty

    • @wokeeye6441
      @wokeeye6441 6 років тому +3

      IglooDweller Idiot!

    • @trulyblessed5254
      @trulyblessed5254 5 років тому

      IglooDweller- Correct the "Companies" are not charities, it's the good-willed ppl they exploit that provide them with free labor and other services.

    • @senoritaaurora5123
      @senoritaaurora5123 5 років тому +2

      Even if you have lots of skills they can look at you as too diversified, oh you don't follow a particular career route? You must lack commitment

  • @wilfordmurray
    @wilfordmurray 4 роки тому +1

    Sadly, most people do not understand that if you are working for wages or a salary you will never have job security. The moment that you are not needed by your employer, you are gone. If you want to make big money, you must work for yourself. Think! You can start your own business on the internet for free! There is no ceiling on your income!

  • @richardbowers3647
    @richardbowers3647 5 років тому +4

    Poem titled To Settle Down.
    To settle down with house & land:
    To have a hearth & chair & everything.
    The red hot coals banked in back:
    A pile of wood by the wall.
    I could work long all the day,
    Clearing & trimming the woods all around
    And making all good to the eye.
    I could be restful through the night.
    In front of fire with my dog,
    Sure of company & love abound.
    The murmuring hearth & resting dog.
    A place protected from cold & rain,
    A home sweet home.

  • @lesliemcclary7810
    @lesliemcclary7810 4 роки тому +6

    A twenty minute drive to work isn’t a big deal

    • @lesliemcclary7810
      @lesliemcclary7810 4 роки тому +2

      Driving twenty minutes isn’t gonna run you a fifteen to twenty dollars a day gas bill

  • @tr377723
    @tr377723 4 роки тому +5

    Stuff like this gives you a clear understanding of how inequality works. How Capitalism and exploitation works. How everyday people are the pawns within a system that was put into place to make sure inequality and suffering stays prevalent. These are real stories dealing with real people with real issues who are struggling to feed their families. In this poor unpredictable economic climate, starting a family isn't a wise move to make. It wouldn't benefit you in the long run if your finances aren't secure enough to withstand the potential of an economic collapse; which leads to massive layoffs. In all actuality this country was built exclusively to highlight the rich and exploit the poor. Just look at all the suffering around you, do you think that's by coincidence? The pain and suffering alone validates any questions one would have about what America is and where its headed.

  • @carlitod.jackson3211
    @carlitod.jackson3211 6 років тому +22

    how do u foreclose on a 40-60 k house .their house note less then my car note😕two healthy young people together can't come up with $300 to 400 a month

    • @dogood9324
      @dogood9324 5 років тому +3

      and why get an adjustable rate loan on a 60k house?

    • @haroldbottom3474
      @haroldbottom3474 5 років тому +10

      "Karleto"...You're a selfish person who I hope will never be in the situation where some of these people find themselves.

    • @tarawalton6778
      @tarawalton6778 5 років тому +2

      I DON'T comprehend how this could happen as well. They BOTH 'appear' to be able bodied individuals.

    • @Theshytb
      @Theshytb 5 років тому +8

      It's simple no jobs in the community, and most people don't qualify for the demandings jobs.

    • @JP-te7kd
      @JP-te7kd 5 років тому +1

      Stupid is stupid does. These are some special dumb ones.

  • @NamelessVoice808
    @NamelessVoice808 4 роки тому +1

    My mom lives in Dayton and she is employeed by the Federal government. She worked on getting her masters during the recession after her divorce. Dayton was already a “dying” city before the recession. She chooses to stay but ultimately her staying there is holding her back financially and with job progress.

  • @a.citizen7668
    @a.citizen7668 5 років тому +2

    The couple knew they were going to lose their home. They should not have used what money they had to pay the mortgage. In the end, their credit was ruined anyway. They should have vacated the house when he lost his job and moved into a small apartment until they could do better.

  • @foodharborcoalition5547
    @foodharborcoalition5547 4 роки тому +1

    A 1% annual household wealth donation from US $93t total household wealth would raise $930b the first year. Paying New Green Deal workers a $15/h wage, planting 6 trees/h at total cost of $36/h, we would be able to plant 155b trees/y and employ nearly 13m people. If my household net wealth were only $5, that would be a $0.05 donation.

  • @betseyterry844
    @betseyterry844 5 років тому +21

    His wife should have been working part time saving, while attending school. You gotta think "what if" always.

    • @markwhittaker6866
      @markwhittaker6866 4 роки тому +1

      PREACH!
      You are SO RIGHT.

    • @tamarahines6975
      @tamarahines6975 4 роки тому +1

      I know she seems like one of those type of females that depends on a man to take care of her instead having her resources.

    • @mishabates82
      @mishabates82 4 роки тому +2

      Amen sista

  • @BudgetMadam
    @BudgetMadam 4 роки тому +3

    21:56 his shock simply broke my heart & opened my eyes 😭😭😭💙💙💙

  • @Gapeaches77able
    @Gapeaches77able 5 років тому +3

    A 20 minute drive costs about $10 to $15 in gas a day? Hmmmm. I used to commute 45 minutes a day both ways and filled my tank up once every two weeks.

    • @pikakac2441
      @pikakac2441 5 років тому +1

      I didn't get this part either, but then I looked up gas prices in 08', boy it was high.

    • @nstl440
      @nstl440 4 роки тому +1

      He brings her so he has the car the rest of the day? Then picks her up?

    • @C_oboe
      @C_oboe 4 роки тому

      I used to drive a cheap old used car that burned gas like that. BUT - it was dependable. driving in-town was especially costly... on the highway I got better mileage

  • @thesimplelife1207
    @thesimplelife1207 6 років тому +3

    It did not take that much to fix this problem years ago.

  • @glorioespagan6369
    @glorioespagan6369 4 роки тому +3

    When times are good (working) save/ invest your money' relocate

  • @texasgun2731
    @texasgun2731 5 років тому +3

    wow what a horrible ending. it has happened to me as well. jobs flake on you more often than craigslist buyers flake.

  • @valereirenfro9040
    @valereirenfro9040 5 років тому +2

    The gentleman who was calling all of those dislocated workers out of a notebook on the phone seemed like a pretty nice guy. Here up in Washington some of the people tend to be snobby. When I was looking for employment one such place Center For Career Alternatives seemed to be one of the most snobbiest, meanest and full of discrimination places I had ever experienced. At least in Ohio they care! A lot of people seem to joke about Ohio but at least there they support their own residents.

    • @williamhorvat8224
      @williamhorvat8224 5 років тому +1

      Yeah. The caller was very nice and professional. He actually cared and wanted those out of work folks to find new employment.

  • @colleenfrench4522
    @colleenfrench4522 Рік тому +1

    UPDATE: David Rayford died August 2022 at the age 45 of unknown causes. His wife stayed. They never moved out of Dayton.

  • @nicko.7446
    @nicko.7446 6 років тому +9

    It's interesting that this is from the mid-late 2000's, but this video was published right before the 2016 elections.

  • @erin19030
    @erin19030 6 років тому +8

    Forget about retirement too!

  • @latenightsnack5382
    @latenightsnack5382 5 років тому +4

    I could never leave my husband if he lose his job especially since we have children together thur thick and thin leaving when times get hard is not real love

    • @carojames6776
      @carojames6776 5 років тому +2

      You can also become stronger when you work as a team and have the same goals.

  • @GlobalFreeLiving
    @GlobalFreeLiving 4 роки тому +1

    We must start our own businesses and create a sustainable life where we don't need much money... leave the system.

  • @biblethumper8088
    @biblethumper8088 5 років тому +2

    Next generation, don't have children. This country is not for us and too unstable. These stories are our history. Struggle, struggle, struggle.

  • @jeep19
    @jeep19 4 роки тому +3

    Ain't no way in the phfruqk 🤔 I would ever depend on a man, or significant other, to bring home the bacon, especially when he has no education, skill, or trade 👍👌😷 But, that's just my personal, humble opinion 👌

  • @michaelcampbell5849
    @michaelcampbell5849 3 роки тому +1

    Community's must evolve with the times and technology.

  • @JP-te7kd
    @JP-te7kd 5 років тому +6

    I'm not surprised these jobs went to other places. These people were paid too much salary and benefits. It was crazy, I don't know how they thought that could go on forever. I would've moved my company too if I were in that situation.

    • @chukkachick1879
      @chukkachick1879 5 років тому +3

      @J P Exactly. Here in Canada, the Campbell's Soup Factory closed because it could no longer pay employees who were high school dropouts $60/hr to pour soup into a can. The company was passing on the costs to the consumers, and the price of a can of Campbell's soup at the grocery store skyrocketed to almost $4.00/can. People began to buy cheaper brands of soup and of course, the company's shareholders screamed. At a Goodyear plant in Québec, they were paying their employees (again with high school or less) $50/hr to test rotate tires. That plant also closed. At the beginning of the 20th c., industrial unions achieved great things for workers everywhere, but as the century progressed, they went mad with the collective bargaining and priced their members right out of the job market. They forgot that corporations had also gotten bigger and more powerful, and that if they got fed up with the grasping demands for increasingly expensive benefits, there was nothing to prevent them from upping stakes and going to places with cheaper labour.

    • @randygulley8439
      @randygulley8439 3 роки тому

      @@chukkachick1879 p

  • @sverdon4049
    @sverdon4049 8 років тому +39

    Very sad
    F globalization!

  • @fahsibosithole5387
    @fahsibosithole5387 5 років тому +4

    Dude you supposed to be working not your wife , you can driver Uber or anything to make a living for your lovely wife n son. Poor woman, just take anything while searching

  • @ElevationNationCONVERSATIONS
    @ElevationNationCONVERSATIONS 4 роки тому +4

    Skill less JOBS are not the answer..... Gets some skills or start your own business....

  • @ElevationNationCONVERSATIONS
    @ElevationNationCONVERSATIONS 4 роки тому +4

    Splitting up in hard times MEANS you got married without knowing eachother...

  • @ProteusTG
    @ProteusTG 5 років тому +1

    Farmers are complaining that they can't find labour.
    They are paying between 12 and 20 per hour.

  • @gabrielonoon8804
    @gabrielonoon8804 3 роки тому +1

    Imagine if they were renting instead of "owning" a house and the job market dried up? All they have to do is just pack up their stuff and start over in another state.

  • @BIuey
    @BIuey 6 років тому +1

    keep prayin for the change our society..

  • @NC-ij9rb
    @NC-ij9rb 5 років тому +8

    Loose the car! Loose the house! Live in a trailer, ride the bus! There still a lot of things you can do to save.

  • @buckct147
    @buckct147 5 років тому +2

    Love ❤️ doesn’t pay the bills!!!!👀

  • @dp7047
    @dp7047 4 роки тому +1

    IDK...thats 10 years of him being unemployed. He's probably looking for a job that pays what GM paid. That may be why he stayed unemployed for so long

  • @XxxclusiveReviews
    @XxxclusiveReviews 4 роки тому +1

    They have jobs in Alaska bro.. NORTH SLOPE JOBS.. THEY WILL fly YOU HOME EVERY TWO WEEKS.. YOU WORK 12 HOUR SHIFTS FOR TWO WEEKS.. ALASKA.. plus room and board..

  • @1Blkkato
    @1Blkkato 4 роки тому +5

    I went thru some tough times in my life & I struggled until I took up a trade then moved to TX where I can have plenty of work to apply my trade. You have to have some sort of usable skill set & move to where some jobs are. Stop beating your head against the wall staying in towns that have past you by.

  • @searsa7190
    @searsa7190 5 років тому +2

    this is the beginning of what marx anticipated

  • @bkj58
    @bkj58 6 років тому +17

    People have got to make better decisions with their lives. This obsession with finding careers that dont require a formal educaiton is foolish. Whether you go to college, community college or a trade school, you have to get an education.

    • @isidoraveronica
      @isidoraveronica 6 років тому +3

      Brian J 50/50

    • @chukkachick1879
      @chukkachick1879 5 років тому +1

      @Brian J Yep. 50 years ago, you could find work as a bank teller if you had a high school diploma and work your way up to a position in senior management. Not anymore. Now in 2019, most bank tellers have at least a B.A., and an M.B.A. or similar graduate degrees are a standard requirement for senior positions in management. There is very little or no room in the labour force for workers who dropped out of high school or who only have a high school diploma. Even college kids are applying for entry jobs in the service industries, and if you can't operate math-based computerized machines on a construction site, you're screwed.

  • @shirleyowens5702
    @shirleyowens5702 6 років тому +3

    People if you remember the F word for any reason, Remember only buy a house at a Fix rate, Never at a variable rate never!! Your house note will double and you will lose your home, If someone offer you a variable rate get up and leave!! Don't purchase a home until your credit is correct, that way you will be offer a better percentage rate.

  • @svetlanikolova7673
    @svetlanikolova7673 4 роки тому +1

    Everyone that is watching. The future is in homesteading and local farmers markets. Zero waste stores are the future. Hope is not lost just have to be doing something totally out of your comfort zone

  • @DianaCarolinaGirl22
    @DianaCarolinaGirl22 5 років тому +2

    Unfortunately I guess none of the politicians of 2008 helped huh?

  • @williamscookies78
    @williamscookies78 7 років тому +25

    a house for $60,000? and you think you have it bad? lol

    • @ignazs.5816
      @ignazs.5816 6 років тому +13

      There are no jobs. That's what makes it hard. Where do you find the money even when things are cheap?

    • @IsWhamshremyHot
      @IsWhamshremyHot 5 років тому +11

      When ur not workin kinda makes it hard to pay a mortgage don’t u think 🤔

    • @dondressel4802
      @dondressel4802 5 років тому +1

      I live in California
      Houses here start at 500 thousand where I live

    • @Imperial0666
      @Imperial0666 4 роки тому +2

      @Psalm 139 I guess he thought he would be able to work at the plant for 30 years and retire with a pension. getting that interest only mortgage was a poor decision

  • @AandP4dummieslikeme
    @AandP4dummieslikeme 5 років тому +8

    I just took a class in personal finance and they told us to avoid ARM's like the plague.

    • @ByRaymondFerguson
      @ByRaymondFerguson 4 роки тому +2

      Eliza Janica adjustable rate mortgage. Payments skyrocket.