Fire service bosses talked about wanting to 'kill' and harm female colleagues | ITV News
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- Опубліковано 22 кві 2024
- The chief fire officer (CFO) and assistant chief fire officer (ACFO) of Shropshire Fire and Rescue Service both sent messages suggesting they wanted to kill or harm female colleagues.
In the WhatsApp messages - which have been leaked to ITV News - the senior officers also use the words "lazy cow", "bint" and "useless" to refer to women in the service.
Several of the messages target Area Manager Jan Morris, who resigned from the service this year after reading what had been said about her.
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Vile they both should be sacked and charge with threatening behaviour and making death threats.
What is it with men who work in emergency services?? Police full of these types too.
They’re supposed to help & care for people but some of them seem to genuinely hate women. It scares me!
What is it with women claiming 'misogyny' for men taking a disliking to individual women based on their behaviour? Surely a woman can dislike one man and not be a misandrist so why not the other way?
PS Paul Slimeball Brand and ITV spend a lot of money and time on these investigations, do you really think they're going to return empty handed? Don't take the findings too seriously
@@jamietherooster Taking a dislike to an individual is normal. Taking issue with someone's performance on the job is also normal. What isn't normal is the immature, unprofessional, unnecessary name calling, insults and threats made by these two senior officers. There is absolutely no need whatsoever for the turn of phrase used in these messages. These two senior male fire officers have acted inappropriately with gross unprofessional conduct at best and with incredible prejudice at worst.
Men like this are taught by their fathers and peers that this is acceptable. That only men should do "men's work," that men lead and women are only good for certain roles. They get ever more defensive and scared as the world moves on without them and so they cling to what little they have. And of course it's everyone's fault but theirs.
@@andrewjones-productions oh well atleast you agree there was no misogyny. Just name calling and unprofessional insults
This is absolutely horrific, what the hell is wrong with some people?!
Some people in the fire service are bullies I was in the Fire Cadets and was bullied and I am not a woman it can happen to anyone
@@ethanpowell7428 I am so sorry you had to go through that Ethan, hope you're doing well
@@bartfoxy112 Thank you 🙏🏻 for the kind words yes I am doing fine now but still I believe there needs to be a review into our fire and rescue services and police forces because it’s gotten out of control
It's everywhere. Women stand no chance.
What’s scary is these men prob have wives….how do their wives excuse these views. We can thank the likes of Andrew Tate for this… an insignificant man who will have decades of detrimental influence on the relations between men and women.
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And women do it just as much. And if you deny it you're either lying or don't work outside your home or haven't in a LONG time. Not sticking up for these guys but ladies do this same thing ALL the time but many times do it right in the open. Please be honest, you must know it's true.
This is completely disgusting, I'm beyond sick of these men abusing their power. It is happening the world over in almost every work sector. I literally am no longer mates with some guys who defend R.Kelly just because he "made good music" 🤬
How are they abusing their power?
Literally?
@@user-wi1xw5sd1c Hmmm. So what about the person that creates the music, regardless of whether you deem it good? You would continue to buy their music, helping to continue to make them rich, even though they lacked integrity and a moral compass, and were possibly abusing children and women? Yet that is OK, because you enjoy listening to their music? Subliminal messages and a form of hypnotism, brainwashing, is more the reason you would enjoy the music of someone so corrupt. They would certainly have the financial backing and powerful contacts, to do such an endeavour, if 'scratching backs' to make big money, out of someone else's pursuits, is the carrot.
@@jamietherooster Have you listened or read these'conversation' about this woman . You really are the biggest prik ever. That's why I suggest you go love yourself ...got the message ?
My daughter has worked for the fire service in Shropshire, dedicated, hard working and genuinely wanting to do her very best, above and beyond, only to be blasted by and targeted for, whatever reason, we cannot see why. Maybe the saying "stones get thrown at the ripest fruit" is true. There are some very evil and misogynistic little men out there, even in the fire service, sadly, feel very threatened by strong and honourable women
I heard how the talk about the female recruits and judge them. Cancelled my application on the spot. That's not who you want to put your safety in the hands of.
They definitely feel threatened by women. Can't believe this is 2024 and not the 1950's.
Class action lawsuit. Why had this gone on for so long.
The same kind of entitled people exist in higher levels of every organisation, no morals whatsoever.
What is abundantly clear from this footage is that they are not only unprofessional, but a shambolic risk to a service that is meant to protect and serve, by sharing such infantile, bullying and quite worrying messages/ images over social media. Flying high above 'should know better' - no excuses.
So she has evidence plus it’s on this program. It’s unfair dismissal, mobbing, harassment. The fire service need to answer. They must put those two on leave whilst they investigate or better yet get a independent investigator and that way it’s no conflict of interest or potential underhand answers saying “oh everything’s completely fine and there’s no wrong doing”.
This is extremely sad to see. Jan was my boss for a while in Avon. She was well liked by firefighters and she stuck up for us. Texts by senior managers should not be seen as a reflection of the fire service as a whole. I am a male firefighter and have never heard anyone say a bad word about Jan.
What would you have done if you had heard them?
That is absolutely horrific!!!!
A very heroic job. She should not resign. I think she has the right attitude, as she says herself, she just wanted to make a difference. She should actually be the Chief Fire Officer, how a about that?
Absolutely
Totally agree with you.
OMG Shocking, they must be Sacked ASAP & she must be paid millions
Fire service marking their own homework. What a sham.
They should both be sacked! Absolutely disgusting, poor lady.
Is anyone actually shocked? We see this type of talk online everywhere. I’ve ignored men like this all my life and have been lucky to not work with them. Such poor boundaries and nasty language exposes the reality. Get them out
I’ve been in both the military and fire service and the culture in the fire service was stuck in the 1980s whereas the army was much more modern. I thought it would have been the other way around.
The former head of the fire service in Wales Huw jakeway was a bully in school and he regularly picked on me, I'm so happy he was found out.
So whats going to happen to them? A promotion??
I work in what used to be a male dominated industry 20 years ago and I face sexism. IWe think we’re so civil and advanced but we still have a long way to go.
Agreed! Same here. The insults and harassment were way beyond. The ugly words regarding my hair, 'need to wear makeup', bra size, natural beauty needs lipstick too, why do we have to take orders from 'that', must be a lesbian, etc etc. Even though my performance evaluations remarked favorably regarding my work ethic and being a team player, constant negative and degrading discussion about me not being worthy of my raise in pay, and ethnicity were the daily topics. Ugh!! Those guys behaved as though they would never have a modicum of respect for women, ever!
It's strange to see such a mature woman feel so hurt by men's hatred. Was she protected and kept safe from all this all her life? I wasn't. Men hate us.
Men don't hate women, men don't rate women very much.
Merseyside aren't the shining service they are portrayed to be either.
Wtf I'm shocked!
Why are you shocked when it's like this everywhere?
its the same bla bla bla. If those who derogate other humanbeings like this (and in public servic environments ffs) are not made accountable and let to remain freely in power, its all useless. The world is getting used to all this evil at this point.
Why does she say the first sentence like that?
Exactly the same as UK politics then. 😂 The warning from the News reader was the best bit of this interview. Fire brigade has some rats and someone wanting their jobs.
Nice white guys.
Not surprised !!!
Thank you for always keeping me updated with your recent news 😊 🎉🎉🎉❤
Like the police the fire service is government run and thus their internal communications should be secret from the public view
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This is Downright MEAN, you have to fight fires, oxygen loss comes from the line of work, all the medical issues from inhaling fumes of burning plastics, and human bodies. Expect serious mental decline in any mid level position, she can complain, but this news report forgot to mention the job is inherently deleterious for all persons health, the first sign of cancer is mental disturbance, and ya'all are mean for fire fighters dignity is on the line.
Hi refused to go ,do your job madam .regard ebi builder
Wgaf, no ethnics in fire service but women who are known to not pull their weight but demand the same pay ,
As an ex- firefighter back in 80's we No female firefighters then in late 90s Council decided to change their ideology And Fire Stations,Officers men had to adapt to women in and around Stations,she had her Own room and bathroom meaning 20
blokes in bathroom/4 showers And of course that was just the start. By the time I left they had all kinds of privileges the bloody keys didn't,What happened to equal rights etc etc..🤬
Women need to have their own space and protection from certain types of 'men'.If the men had any balls they would have insisted they were provided wih more showers etc.,instead of weeping about hard done by they had been treated because women were on the job
People have the right to talk behinds peoples back. IT IS CALLED FREE SPEECH!
Here we go its
D. E.I & Hamas supporters....
Getting her knickers all in a twist over a private conversation is pretty much proving the point. Need a thick skin for a dangerous job.
Found an incel
But if women had exactly the same conversation about men, you'd soon be jumping up and down.
Hurty words. She needs to grow up.
It’s banter ! God sake ! 26 years and now all
Of a sudden you are offended ? I believe the other workers more than her they wouldn’t just message for no reason so she must be a nightmare to work with and doesn’t look like a firefighter
GET A GRIP
@user-wi1xw5sd1c on the one hand you say ‘it’s just banter’, then on the other hand, ‘they wouldn’t just message for no reason’. Which is it and why do you believe she doesn’t look like a firefighter? Or is your problem based simply on the fact she is a woman?
What does a Fire Fighter look like then? Baldilocks and the other clown don't actually inspire ...do they?
Looks like she has been trying very hard for a long time to have her gotcha moment with her bosses, also sounds like she thoroughly got on their nerves, I wonder why they didn't like her?
I'd never speak about someone like that if they get on my nerves.
She was probably better at her job than Baldilocks and the other Clown
@@noramartin96 Bingo!
This is going on in the United States too
women should have to meet the same requirements as men...MERIT is important. When you have a double standards you will breed resentments, understandably so.