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Do THIS When Arguing With Extremists Like Tom Cruise
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- Опубліковано 13 сер 2024
- This is the only way to argue with Tom Cruise and any other scientologist. Changing people’s minds is possible, just follow the tips and steps that Anthony Magnabosco explains in today’s episode. Tom Cruise is a known Scientology member, but what about Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis? What’s behind a cult member’s mind, and how can we engage with them? Stay until the end to find out! #ashtonkutcher #ashtonkutcher #scientology
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Peter Boghossian confronted by students: • CONFRONTATION at Portl...
Andrew Gold links:
/ andrewgold1
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andrewgold.locals.com
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Chapters:
0:00 THIS is how to deal with Scientologists
04:57 How to DERADICALIZE
07:11 How cults like Scientology GET you
10:27 The WEIRD thing about belief
14:28 Tom Cruise Goes Crazy About PSYCHOLOGY
18:48 Street Epistemology
23:34 Critical Thinkers
27:08 Ashton Kutcher & Mila Kunis
32:31 Ashton & Mila ACTING
35:28 THIS is how Scientology recruits you - LIVE!
39:22 What to say to a Scientology RECRUITER
48:31 The HARDEST Part
52:10 Body language tells you THIS
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Edited by: Gonzalo Kaplanski
Do you have experience arguing with Scientologists or other cult members? What helped you to deradicalize them? And what didn't work? Let me know below, hit like - and get my extra content by joining my community: andrewgold.locals.com
Scientology and cults like that are all about the money. Using Your money. Just stay away.
Go to Speakers Corner on a Sunday afternoon if you wanna practice street epistemology. Plenty of flat earthers, vegans, cult members to talk to - they tend to be nice people!
First of all, I would like to say that I do not want to attack anyone with my comment. I am only describing my personal experience.♥️
I am a Christian and blindly trusted what priests in school and church taught me. Until one day I woke up to an event. I was blindsided when I realized that the church was teaching and doing things that were not biblical. So I started asking questions. To all sorts of Christian 'organizations'. Very nicely and with great respect. I just wanted to be able to understand and learn. The worst Christians who responded to me were the Catholics. Many of the answers hit me deeply. Many denied that I was a Christian. Some Catholics were too much, they protected me and were kind. They tried to help me. But most condemned me only because I questioned their faith. How dare I. The Catholic Church was founded by Jesus Christ.
Those were very bad experiences for me.
So were Jewish Christians. They and the Catholic Church almost managed to separate me from my faith in God.
Love and love from Germany. 🕯♥️🕊
I’m old school. Kidnap & deprogram has low recidivism.😂
@@blueandgreenslacks - Kidn-p + deprogram = jailtime ----- that ship don't fly these days - avoid, don't do it
The only way to argue with a cult is to leave and never look back.
I think it's easier when you have the benefit of distance, as in that you were never personally part of it. I have no cult experience, but I was raised initially in a non-Western and very different culture, and I left it all behind. I can't discuss it long without being triggered, but I am more able to rationally discuss other cultures with similar practices, but that I was never part of, as in they're not "my" people and I was never part of them, so they're not really triggering me. To use a cliche, I think it has to do with the too close to home thing, versus things that you are more detached from.
@@octopuslane Tune into "Growing Up in Scientology" &/or any of the other channels in the ever-growing SPTV community. Very inspirational & healing, even though they cover challenging subject matter. Also "Cults to Consciousness"
AMEN!
Hail satan!
In a vulgar way “f@&£ off locos” and leave! 😂😂😂
Andrew, your patience in talking about scientology and other radical movements is exemplary. Like you, I'm not one to jump on a demonizing wagon blindly, but unlike you, I don't think I'd have the patience to discuss it so politely. Your approach is refreshing, and it shouldn't be so rare, but it is.
It isn't as rare as people think.
@@raw6460
judging by YT comments, a high percent are a-holes looking to be a-holish toward anything they can find to get a-holey about..
I know it is the best way of doing it, but I fail on being calm quite often. Which is not optimal
@@sebastianwendl603 that can be worked on, that's emotions, it's about unpicking that , locus if control and wise mind, which is the middle path between rationale logical and emotional mind 😉
Anthony gives excellent advice on not only talking to Scientologists, but in also carrying out conversations in general ❤
No one from scientology will have a conversation
Very good 👍
I'm kinda strange, I enjoy talking to people like JWs and different cultures. If there was a cult that made me successful and trained my brain to work properly, I would join immediately! I've seen the pain cults cause. I have never talked to a Scientologist, that I'm aware of. I'd talk to them for sure.
I'm not easy swayed when it comes to what God I serve.
@@Whereempathsgather they really aren't about what God to worship,they're more about separating you from your money in large quantities while getting all your deepest secrets from you to use against you.
@@mandolyn they wouldn't like me but I'd diffantly talk to them.
The only way to “argue” with a cult is drag them into a courtroom. Short of that, stay the hell away from them.
Your comment oozes “I’m an American!”
I have been known to be wrong about things. And if you are or you aren’t, I’m not implying a slur. I just think our cultures hugely affect our language and outlook.
Are ya? Or are ye not? 😀
100%
You can’t argue with arrogant ignorance…….
Truth.
Good thing the entire conversation had nothing do with arguing against arrogant ignorance...
That seems like quite an arrogant and ignorant comment
Beliefs taught in childhood are very difficult to change. Approaching with friendship and understanding gives space to think. This has to be done slowly and calmly.
As an ex member of 3 Sects, including Scientology, this interview is AMAZING!!!!!!! Thank you so muck Andrew.
Equivalent of a fake bot saying , as a black man ......and goes on to spew the latest propaganda.😂😂😂😂😂😂
Please, don‘t join another cult 😅❤
@tre equivalent of a fake bot saying, as a UA-cam commentor - and goes to compare nonsense with nothing.
@@icetbaggins7999 man you killed that joke so hard you gotta be white
@@trebrown8144 Bad bot. Mine is more: I'm a black man in my mid 40s, I changed my gender coz of trans-powers, cut off my left leg and then identified as a white person. I know wheel myself around, hunting for ppl to be mad at.
My Dad a moral and very kind man he was a atheist, never pushed it. Told me I must explore my curiosity and decide for myself. Before marriage and during a part of it I was a atheist. I had the war experience in Rhodesia for 6 years as a territorial soldier. Saw many things that were awful. My wife studied with the JW's. The message seemed appealing, and I became one. However I was always questioning elders about ,their stance, the secrecy which I observed when appointed as a Ministerial servant. Being a GM of a business and mature, I had to remind eldrs I was not a child ,do not treat me as one. Finally I was D/Fd for disseminating apostate ideas. It was a happy day
Welcome to the truth after their truth
The trouble with Tom is the fact he has no emotional empathy. Cluster B…you do realise you’re talking to a psychopath?…
OMG. Having been brought up in the Cult of Mormonism. If I had a dollar for every time I heard, "Just pray and ask if the Book of Mormon is true." Geeze, I would have millions. Not rich as Brand, but rich enough for making some good in the world. Loved this conversation. Andrew, I am afraid I often comment on the majority of your videos, which I find contain equanimity for all aspects of the situation of focus.
I once heard a tape from Joseph Smiths great grandson who is a born again Christian, say if anyone really knows who my grandfather was is me because i have his whole library and I’ll tell you he believed God was flesh and blood and not spirit. “He laughs and says behold I know at the door and what now he’s a door.”
"If I had a dollar for every time I heard, "Just pray and ask if the Book of Mormon is true." " You have no dollars.
Great interview with Anthony Magnabosco. I don't believe that Matt Lauer or Peter Overton were interested in honestly questioning Tom Cruise about Scientology. They just wanted to get a strong reaction from him to make their tabloid TV programs more interesting.
Man how great is Magnabosco? Just reading through the comments and everyone loves him. His approach to testing people beliefs is so impressive especially if you've never seen it before. I've seen him get people with genuine religious beliefs question those beliefs in a 5-10 minute conversation. Such an effective approach and not that complicated allthough he does make it look easier than it is.
He's pretty great!
He’s a legend 🌟
The style is based on Socratic questioning. I think there were a few books that influenced Anthony. Two of them by Peter Boghossian, A Manual for Creating Atheists & How to Have Impossible Conversations: A Very Practical Guide.
However, I do think Anthony has added much sophistication to the process. Like i said, he’s a legend.
Very impressive to see how far you have come. I remember when you had about 15k subscribers and now you're at 249k. You also responded to my tweets on Twitter, which is very kind of you. Congratulations, man!
Thank you! I remember having just 100 subs! Started 3 years ago, but only took off in the past year. Long way to go though! Thanks :D
@@AndrewGold1 Sir, you are on a roll. Congratulations on a job well done. BTW Get some rest.
Yes,I was with you before your channel blew up. Mazel Tov Andrew on your achievements! 🏆
@@rosebudame Count me in too! I just love this channel and never miss a video. Runs circles around a lot of the others out there.
@@rosebudame Isn't it exciting watching someone that you believe grow? 🎙
That was a very worthwhile watch, and I agree: there's too much combativeness in most public debates these days. It's like the objective is not to convince your opponent, but only to strengthen the group identity of people who already agree with you and alienate the rest.
“We have an over confidence problem in our society.” So true!!! In my opinion, I think it’s because of the internet and all that implies.
Hi 😀
I really don’t think it’s because of the internet. I would agree that the internet is one of the mechanisms by which this has been done. But that mechanism is the ‘Means’ by what is done. The cause is tied up in the cultural and societal spheres. IMHO of course.
What do you think?
@@kennycube5126 could be child rearing is so lenient and I hate to say it, but many leave children to be raised by other people. I know many women have to work, but I think child care should be looked at and studied.
Such an interesting conversation. It’s not just about talking to a cult member. It’s just debating logically about any topic, separating the irrational emotion to the real logical reasons.
Kind of like Americas political climate today...you can site actions and inactions and the consequences of same ...still a hard job w someone who has been brainhosed...esp those subliminally manipulated...they really aren't aware😮
If that's your take-away from this conversation, you either A. Didn't actually watch the video or B. Totally didn't understand that Anthony Maganbosco was communicating.
XJW here 🥴🤢🤮
Can’t wait for this ☺️🥰🌸🇨🇦
I live in a Cult village, it is really hard work talking to anybody. The village has a heavy new age element they gravitate to the Steiner School and the whole village is Anthropsophical ie following Rudolf Steiner, but also people that are generally new age. It was horrible during Covid for all the obvious reason you could think of with that tribe of pseudo science types. Would got me was the utter contempt for anybody else and sense of entitlement you got from them. I feel scarred from the whole thing. We also have the UK Scientology centre here as well, and the LDS. They say it is the Ley/lay lines (whatever). I am guilty of having an previous dalliance with the Steiner school but things didnt click with me, they did always try to draw you in to reading his occult psyche works etc, and pressure to not vaccinate. I think it is something in their personalities that draws them in to these beliefs and it would be a lifetime to get them to unpick it. I dont have the time. X
The steiner school was brought to court in California, and was deemed to be not a cult. Just saying.
You can't argue with Culties. An exercise in futility.
Sweeping statements are rarely correct.
I presume if I give you one example of where you can, you’ll change your mind. Yeah?
Yip. You can’t argue with stupid
This was one of the most useful and interesting conversations I've ever heard on Andrew's channel. Good job!
I'm watching this video 2 times because it is so important for all of us to talk people out of cults.
It's actually not our job.
We absolutely should be able to have a conversation with any member of religious/manipulated/cult members.
Respect works both ways.
I wouldn't dream of forcing my logical thinking on anyone in fear, especially a god fearing person.
I will always be open to them.
They will find out why I just will never believe their beliefs.
Up to them if they want to contemplate my logical reasoning 🤷🏼♀️
This should have been a post in it’s own right and not a response. You misrepresented the points made and just went on to express your opinion & conclusion.
@@kennycube5126 I have that right just like you do
@@kennycube5126 no I didn't I'm just saying everyone could use a lesson from this man on knowing how to talk without arguing
2 h?
Catching the attention of a vulnerable person at the right time when they need to believe or belong the most is a big factor. For some people the details of what they believe and why is not really important or arguable - it fulfils some need that logic can not. This need is also a factor for those looking for other advantages like rank, power, etc. Find the need.
Another thing about Tom Cruise (TC) being passionate about mental health is his life long struggle with Dyslexia. He stated that he was labeled dyslexic and that he was teased and bullied for being stupid. He was considered a 'functional illiterate' at the end of high school. So this mental health struggle started with his dyslexia diagnosis at age 7 and has impacted him deeply. If you use your empathy, then you can see why he might be so passionate about the subject... it has been a life long personal struggle for him. And it looks like scientology has helped him deal with this struggle. Personally, I am autistic and dyslexic. I am high functioning. I can pass as normal most days. But reading TC's testimony on how he struggled with reading, to the point where he would get headaches, I can relate to that. He was considered dumb by his peers and teachers. I too experienced the same things. I remember hating reading. But it got easier after age 30. And I didn't have to use drugs or some magical method. I think my brain wiring adapted over time. I don't think it was Dianetics that helped TC... I think it was just perseverance and his brain eventually rewiring itself, that lead to an improvement in his condition.
It isnt true in our class, that he was considered dumb. no way. As I remember, he was an very intelligent and nice person but a bit "closed" an A student and more likely in relation a lot of "dumb" classmates. He was bullied, because the social skills of the teachers were lack like Zero, and there was in general a lot of bulliing going on.
Based on his history since then, I would say, he knows it all,that its a big bad Scam, for a long time.....but you can spare the argument, cause he CANT. And therefore he wont.
Thank you Andrew, for your shows, stay safe and always ask for protection. Good man God bless 👏👍👏 😊
Just tell Tom, "well done." His rage will 'splode that giant head.
Some don't care about getting people out of Scientology, just preventing others from joining
I love Anthony Magnabosco, his work is brilliant.
I agree. 😀
And my agreement can be measured on a scale from 0 to 100. Currently I’m at 💯 Because he’s a legend.
Ohhh man, I've missed you mate, good to see and hear you again Anthony
I just love that you're a Linguist. I'm such a hopeless nerd.😁
In that interview with TC - he was at 100% with everything he said at the time.
ANDREW...the older and more lonely we get, they do (pets) help w anxiety...I have 5 small dogs...one goes everywhere w me...she is my buddy, my confidant, she helps me...I can understand your hesitation but if she has to travel and leave the dog alone, there is expense and the danger that a dogsitter might not take care of it to the level we do...thus the high anxiety...I would be devastated if I lost any of my dogs...but esp the one that goes everywhere w me....maybe there is a happy medium...maybe she can crate the dog during the festivities and be honest...tell her the dog will jump on peoples nice clothes...good luck...😢😂❤
I tell them that I don't want to play the game, that ends the conversation quickly.
I just moved back to a town I lived in twenty-seven or twenty-eight years ago, before my involvement with a few narcissists and a Dark Triad. The end of the video reminded me of an encounter I had on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon when I lived here before.
I don't know if Christian Science still exists but there was a Christian Science Reading Room that operated downtown. It seemed to be a tax write-off because it was seldom open. But, anyway ...
I was around age 30 or so and high on life one bright and sunny weekend afternoon. I was walking down the street and hopping up and walking the curbs as I approached them, then hopping down and back up on the next one.
As I was doing that, I was approached by a couple male Christian Science buskers, probably for two reasons. I was an attractive, approachable female around their age and they were busking.
I think they said something about how happy I looked and then asked if I believed in God. I did, and still do, but it's based on my own personal beliefs and experiences since I was a child.
We probably talked for 30-45 minutes but they ended up asking me more questions about my beliefs than telling me about theirs.
At the end of our conversation, one of the guys said to the other that they were doing so much reading and studying and I was experiencing happiness without all that. That it was just an attitude. (Looking back, I think it was the Law of Attraction. I didn't know about it at the time but it came naturally to me when I was "young," before I completely understood victimization.)
Anyway, his friend replied to him saying that they'd have to ask so-and-so about it when they got back inside.
I don't know whatever became of them or their involvement with Christian Science but I remember chuckling to myself that they came to get me involved with Christian science and I was unknowingly talking them out of it! 😂
If they stayed with it, so-and-so back inside had to do some swift thinking and talking. I imagine he might have had to make me out to be a heathen and, possibly, a temptation planted by the devil. 😂
Never happened.
@@TBOTSS Thank you, God. I must have been mistaken. 😂🤣🤣
Unless you misread and thought I said Scientology? This was Christian Science. (I have no idea how they differ but they do sound similar.)
Katie didn’t flee to NYC with their daughter for no reason
The obvious question would be . “As L Ron has written over 200 fiction books , how can they be certain his books on Scientology are totally accurate?”.
Orrrrr... a billion year contract isn't the red flag? Or... Sp's are the faten? (Is it faten?) Either way, it's huuuuuge form of control and manipulation... mentally, emotionally, aswell as relationships, educational, career, income and just BASICALLY ones personal thoughts!!!
Cult religion like the other 1999
C'mon.
They are not accurate they are all just made up stupid writing from L Ron and he was a nutcase and a half. It's all fiction and BS.
I tend to say my peace when I’m angry almost instantly with my child, but keep quiet for 30mins- 2 hrs or so when disappointed with them then talk about it. My children told me that they didn’t like it more when I was disappointed and the silence. Even as a child they knew right away if I was disappointed.
That was fascinating! I didn't even know a group like this existed! I will go and check their info! Great interview! 👍👍
SE should be a subject in primary and high schools, maybe someday in the future...
YES
He should have roleplayed with you about the dog
Met one on the bus years ago. She became a friend, and talked about Scientology to me. Just to be nice I went to that blue building, but I left before a conference, bc it was all such bs to me.
I encountered those people every day on my day to work and they were so rude, obtrusive and just a pain in the ass! The uniforms they wore irritated me. So stupid! I was really really happy when they would turn their backs to me on the street!
I used to be a religious, conservative. Now I am an atheist, liberal and I am very active in promoting it. The thing is that I constantly test myself and my information sources because of Anthony and other atheist "influencers". I often find myself in quandary, circularly asking "what if?".
What made you change? ( if I may ask you)
@@aileenmac1 - Realizing wealth is finite and racism is wrong changed me to a liberal. Studying science and history changed me to an atheist.
I wrote a paper on Notte-Dame De Paris cathedral and realized it was meant to brainwash ignorant peasants on pilgrimage to the Holy Land.
The gargoyles aren’t to keep away evil. They are to frighten people, most of whom couldn’t even read.
@@cavebeastdemon3631lol
Even people from churches. This Government is just the same.
Thank you Andrew for proposing a very interesting content at every video, your guests are very inspiring! Cheers from France!
It’s very simple..if you’re not allowed to leave - you’re in a cult.
40 yrs ago, I became a believer in Jesus Christ, not an organization or one particular church above another, but in the basic simple teachings of Christ.
My pastor at that time said, "Your best testimony to your faith, belief is you."
You, not someone else, not go read this or see that, but you personally. How by itself has it personally changed your life, effected those around you, made you a more compassionate, carrying forgiving person. And, if all your books, all your bibles, all your notes, etc. were taken away, would you still hold your beliefs? Would you still be able to reach out to others and share the hope you have? Your personal life speaks more than a warehouse of books.
I love your channel and the topics your covering.
Very interesting fellow Andrew❤ loved the interview
The mother who wants to bring her dog to your wedding may not want to leave it alone or with anyone else. She also probably thinks that everyone at the wedding will love her dog. She doesn't want to accept the truth that it is extremely inappropriate to bring a dog and that everyone else there would have liked to bring their own dogs, but didn't out of respect for you. Even if it was put in a cage, it would bark and ruin the wedding. She should just be given a command, "no kids, dogs or any other living thing that isn't on the invitation.". If you must bring you pet rock, just keep it in your purse.
This video is helping me understand why I was drawn to conspiracy theories. Thank you both ❤
Reasoning with someone in a cult sounds a lot like sales. "What features would you like this product to have? ... Ok, you might like this one. You don't?" And then addressing their concerns one at a time. What your guest is speaking about is reminiscent of something we did called the Magic Circle 35 years ago while selling life insurance/investments.
I love the response to the news that Tom Cruise is a deity who can visit people’s dreams… “that’s interesting” 🤣
This man is amazing. Great video 👍👍
What this guest is saying would apply to all of us regardless of our beliefs, religious or otherwise
At 5:26, He is describing Dunning-Kruger effect.
Andrew please do a video on Tom Cruise's Desperate attempt to Lure the Beckhams into Scientology...can you imagine posh standing for that if Becks started hanging out too much with Cruise? Hilarious!
Excellent. A very interesting man, and great conversation. Thank you guys
I have coworkers in JWitness & Baptist Evangelists. They were preyed on in puberty when troubled. Also Pacific Islanders recruited in home lands. They try to recruit people with a disability that they work with. No responses to much rational conversation. One wouldn’t take part in yoga or mediation with clients stating it was witchcraft. Very sad to be around them.
Such a helpful, interesting and important discussion. Thank you.
Andrew, It was called the Tree of Good and Evil
I wanted to join a cult- that refused to have anything to do with electronic devices,unfortunately it's very difficult to phone or e mail them....☺
😂😂 I like it!!
LOL!
Interesting application of critical thinking.
Another great interview! Glad I tuned in
I really enjoyed this episode! Thanks to both of you for sharing the conversation. Nice to see you around again Anthony - I have missed the on-campus conversations that you did a few years ago.
If you have your own dog (and it IS well behaved) then ask her to care for your dog that day and look after it at the event. Then your own dog is at the wedding and she has her needs met by having an animal to hold on to and care for. There could be numerous reasons she wants her dog there: substitute child, conversation starter; a reason to walk away from people or the situation (I need to take the dog out to pee...), the need emotionally to touch something live, etc... Each and all of these could be substituted with her in charge of Your dog that day.
Perhaps she is scared of leaving her dog alone, find a doggy day care, a neighbour or her best friend to mind her dog for the day. Drop it at the groomer for the day for a doggy spa. Book it into the vet for a treatment she may have been putting off. There are ways of making sure her dog is safe without her around, so she can concentrate on the wedding.
Perhaps hire a pet sitter for the day and everyone's dogs can be cared for at one venue away from the wedding.
Good luck.
Scientology holds the OT levels over members heads telling them the answers are at the end of OT 8.
Thank you. Watching from Alaska.
“Intention” in Scientology just sounds like reheated “karma” from Buddhism.
And some of us are afraid of the group mentality or being in a crowd
Congrats on 250K!!!
🎊 🥳🎈🎉🍾
in quantum physics, in mathematics and in art we have a similar one big question:
what is the objective "big truth"? The fact that this one big all explaining 100% objective truth will not be found in 2023 does not mean we can do it by next spring. Especially if Andrew and Anthony show us the first step. Let's go.🏀
Narcs wrap themselves in religion sometimes too...my ex MIL actually said because she gave a significant tithe that her ticket to Heaven was insured...she reallllly believed this and continued w her bad behavior w this idea firmly entrenched in her pea brain...
Valuable information. Thanks
Anthony Magnabosco is such a brilliant speaker. Great interview
Why is it that I have all notifications on for your channel and didn't have a notification at all for this. Love Anthony's work and am a regular viewer of his channel
Andrew you look tired, get your self a good night sleep 💤 keep up the great work 👍🏻
Bringing a pet to a wedding is inappropriate request. Full stop. Your stepmother is an adult and anxiety is not a good excuse. She’s making the wedding about her.
I would say that dogs are not invited and other dog owners might be offended if I invite one dog and not theirs.
Someone brought a dog to the funeral of a close family member and I was not really happy about it.
Also the dog would take centre stage.
some of your guests may be allergic!
With the step mom and dog, I have a service dog that goes everywhere with me. Granted she's well behaved, completely potty trained AND a whopping 3 pound. My Australian friends just don't get it! They try "being nice" and saying well some folks are allergic... she's a yorkie... they are hypoallergenic and don't shed.... needless to say I've been on your side Andrew where the persons dog is a Shite Bag and doesn't listen, but then my girl who is with me for Seizures.. (she can feel em before I can and can alert me). Needless to say maybe you can agree on something. How about first offer to pay for a doggy day at a Dog Spa... groomer that she can pick up after your event... if not then ask that she not have them there for the ceremony and bend your rules for the reception. Maybe mom has the dog for the attention. Alot of folks who aren't social (or feel they are exciting enough) have the dog as a barrier to entertain a conversation...idk armchair therapist right? I know the dog/person bond. I love my lil fur baby more than most people lol. I hope one of these does help.
No dog is completely hypoallergenic. The allergy response is caused by dander from the skin which may not be spread around as much from dogs that don't shed so much. Allergies affect some more than others.
People are entitled to say who and what can be present at their weddings. If you can't go anywhere without your children, your dogs or your teddy bear, you can always decline the invitation.
Wow there was some gambling app that piped up above the comment box, I literally had to push it up to be able to leave a comment (just so your aware) I almost gave up leaving my comment due to this forced advertising..
Anyway great conversation 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🙏🙏👍👍👍
Very interesting episode! This is one of my most favorite interviews that you've done!
Absolutely mind numbing. The only thing sadder than scientologists is two atheists.
You mean two god botherers
Street Epistemology, Wisdom on the Streets. How Radical and amazing, I hope you have a gang of equally good Listeners and communication skills as you do Peter Sir ?
I like the way he speaks 👍good guest and topic
I agree
I follow Anthony on TikTok and it's something that both tests my patience and puts me in awe. The people who he speaks with - I think go away saying "Is that what I really believe?" It's fascinating and I can only take a small dose at a time. 😂
Tom will never give up CO$.
He gets too much free labor and other bennies being in.
I agree with you . He is a big noise in COS and just another Hollywood actor in the real world .
So true what you said Andrew about picking a side. The viscious vitriol aimed at The wicked witch is in direct contradiction towards the sainted one and vice versa depending on who you listen to,.. you need a lot of courage to criticise one or the other.
Body language ; what comes out the mouth will be either confirmed or denied , by the body - its a matter of looking at the correct parts to get the truth . The Face , is best indicator .
Andrew this is the best and most important and informative video you have done I love it because this is what my dad taught me and it works.i just don't have the vocabulary to get my point across to people like this man.
It’s interesting how we, on the outside, think those who don’t buy into our perception of everything, don’t buy into us for the same reason we don’t buy into them. Does that make any sense? If our way of perception is so great, why is the world so messed up?
AFAIK Scientologists won't discuss their beliefs with you. They don't even discuss them with each other. They will just prompt you to go to a Scientology centre and try the processes, read the books for yourself.
Most religions acknowledge that there is faith involved. However, when a religion claims to be a complete and empirical truth, any successful challenge to any doctrine is an effective attack on the entire doctrine. This is where Scientology fails.
Oooooh I would love to hear this guy speak with TC! I'm here for that any day! Fireworks!
Add a sleeping pill to the dogs meal and he will wake up afterwards
Awesome chat ❣️
Sorry, Andrew but, I am quite sure Katie is busy talking to an "Auditor" or "Sec Checker" these days... smh Lol
Beliefs are confidence without clarity. We shouldn’t identify ourselves with our beliefs, as they’re on the outside of our inner self. *”Confidence without clarity is always a disaster. Confidence cannot happen without clarity, only belief or bigotry can occur.”* -Sadhguru
I think it is a process of mental development. For example, " I used to think I knew a lot in general". But as a process of personal and mental growth I realize, "oh wow I feel so foolish because I realize how much I really don't know", does that make sense? But I believe we continue to learn and grow our entire lives. Not everyone feels the same.
Andrew, how many times does A-Aron need to tell you that entering someone's dreams isn't a thing in Scientology? Just in Katie's head.
I know that! But they do have super powers at ot8. It’s all mad.
@@AndrewGold1 You are so human - just gotta love you.
Fascinating. I talk to people who doubt the necessity of taking timely action to reduce climate change. This will be another approach. Have always tried to find common ground but the lever to help shift a viewpoint is often hard to find. I like the respectful approach
It's not psychology that Scientology has a problem with. Its psychiatry. Big difference.