7 Things I Wish I Knew Earlier About - Rome 2 Total War
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- Опубліковано 20 тра 2020
- From Using Diplomats to Gain Free Settlements, to how to have Pikemen Effective, welcome to 7 things that I wish I knew Earlier about Rome 2 Total War.
I am not saying these are things you don't know. I am just saying that they are a little bit unknown, and I it would have helped me, as a beginner, if I knew them earlier.
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I am not saying these are things you don't know. I am just saying that they are a little bit unknown, and I it would have helped me, as a beginner, if I knew them earlier. : )
Also, feel free to leave in the comments any of your own, unknown, in-game knowledge, that others could possibly do with.
Hey, don't feel bad about the equipment thing. I have 2500 hours in Rome 2 and just found out about sending the family members as diplomats thanks to this video. Turns out I'm not big on diplomacy. Guess that's why it's not called Total Diplomat.
Me when I read you comment.
“Well I guess I do put war in total war”
RIP automanage
me too i play from 2007 rome 1 and 2 ,f,.,
Me Managing Politics To The Point Of Breaking The Balance Of The Game And Getting A Family Tree Bigger Than A City With Infinite Influence And Broken Buffs: *Impossible*
😂😂😂 total diplomat
670 hours... didnt know you can send diplomats :D
Dumb detected
Played this for quite a long time too, this was shocking to me XD
First time learned about it too 😂
nearly 800 hours, why am I dumb
Same
As the graphics quality of games has increased over the years, so the quality of game manuals has correspondingly decreased.
I think they wanted players to experiment with certain new mechanics
@@nicholasthuya7683 can't experiment when you can't understand shiet
@@nicholasthuya7683 Make it hard to understand so that people think it's deep. Easy.
Before the video: I know everything
18 Sec in: wtf i didn't know.
Actually keeping your pikes farther back is better because when you push them too close, the enemy gets close enough to engage in melee and kill your pikemen. If you play enough multiplayer you will realize this. Keep them at a distance so they can make a maximum use of their melee attack and defense
Yeah, that's the whole point of Pikes.....they have reach. You don't have to be within sword range of your enemy to kill them. Don't ever push them in like this, it's dumb and you will just take more casualties.
I find Left click unit drag incredibly useful, i was hoping for such a thing since Rome 1. Then you can hold Ctrl while still having left click held, and you can rotate the formation. Very useful if you don't want to create a locked selection group.
One thing I wish i knew earlier, is that the cinematic view can be used to manually aim your artillery. That alone made me think of artillery as the new king of the battlefield, while in Rome 1 that role was reserved for heavy cavalry.
Agreed I don’t understand how you can hate that. Having to press alt + drag in the newer games is incredibly annoying
I didn't know about the drag at all and was looking for such a feature.. One man's problem is another man's solution I guess.
Manually aimed artillery can wipe out a good third of the opposition before the first clash (in single player, multiplayer people aren't as stupid)
@@kylerleader5201 just deselect your units
@@kylerleader5201 I Never Did That And I Played Too Many Campaigns For My Own Good.
I took 3 provinces from the etruscans in Rise of the republic today, just with one of my sons's (assuming i play as my family leader) wife. This mechanic can be very OP. The only Problem: The more you use the mechanic, the more expensiv it gets. The cost will get lower over time when you don't use it constantly. It can get up to 7000 Talents, when you use it 4 times every turn for 2 turns in a row...did this today, wasted around 50.000 talents in Rise of the Republic in 5 rounds for 3 settlements. ^^
Man I beated the grand campaign with literally every Rome Cartago and Greek faction... and I never knew how to place the fucking equipment holy shit man god bless you for this video
I love how he felt the need to mention that it was his IN-GAME wife
Had no idea of the character/ politics system in any of the total wars. I always thought it was just a background thing for a bit of immersion.. I never realised you could actually do stuff lol
Is there a way to disable clouds on the campaign map? Or reduce them? Not being able to see anything unless you zoom way in is the worst design ever.
total war rome 3
Better quality, more option to trade, treat or threat enemies, more fighting animation, more fluid animation
Im waiting
Didn't know the first one, i knew the rest, and the left click thing, i never experienced. Thanks for video Mel!
500+ hours on Rome 2 and didn't know placing barricades was a thing...
Wait there are more total war games? Not just total war Rome. That's crazy
There are about 21 Total War games at the moment lol
Dude I can't tell ya how many times I nearly smashed my laptop due to the left click drag thing cheers brother
I've just started playing Rome 2 after playing Medieval 2. What's the issue with left click drag?
@@RLuke103 accidentally dragging them
I have been using this mechanic and it's possible that you get a settlement gifted even though it's the first time you send diplomat or you hadn't sent a diplomat to that faction the turn before. It seems that it's more probable to trigger the higher relationships are with that faction.
I can't confirm this, but it seems that it doesn't happen when you play in Legendary. In my last two campaigns I couldn't obtain a settlement which I needed to complete a province from a ally even though I sent diplomats during a lot of turns.
Your accent is fantastic. Love the way you speak clearly. Great video, so much I didn’t know about Rome 2.
the sarcasm here.
@@vladimirgorbik5366 I was serious. I like the way he talks
Oh your wife, uh, sorry about that
How do you even get equipment to deploy in battle? Is it just during ambushes or when you've fortified, or as a defender?
mostly
If you take Pikes off of formation attack while in pike formation, they'll continuously attack the enemy and deal massive damage. Try it against AI one on one.
You can change the difficulty when you start a campaign, just look around a bit and you will find it. Remember, it has the initial challenge too.
I thought it was a great video!!!! Brand new to Total war 2 very helpful. Hilarious about the Carthage comment!!! Keep up the great videos!!!
I didn't know I could just click everyone and move them in one large formation rather than setting them up one by one
You saved my mental health with the left click drag
Thanks--Starter.
Also you can prevent your army from dying on sea easily. If you want to have army safe, you have to move boarded army by right clicking to your fleet. It works as an escort. Also for rome you can send your general to the senate. When you have general, open his skills tree and in right upper corner you have option to substitute for other general.
how did you place all your of one type of units in a line like that?
Can’t wait for the mega campaign!!
Wait there is a mega campaign? I mean I havent even played the normal campaign I only play multiplayer lol 300h hours
What mega campaign are you talking about?
Marcus Antonius Kase He plans to continue through to medieval times from his Rome 2 role play campaign
Here's the deal with sending politicians on diplomatic missions:
There's only three reasons to do this, really. The main one is you're trying to get a free region. Second, you automatically increase the loyalty of a political party by sending their politicians on missions. (The missions that give your provinces extra food and happiness have the same effect). Three, you can get annoying politicians killed on purpose by sending them as ambassadors to nations that hate you. If you get such politicians killed in battle, you'll take a big loyalty hit, but no one cares if they get killed playing politics in foreign countries.
The downsides are: 1) it's quite expensive, so until you reach the point where your income is essentially unlimited, it's probably not worth the money. 2) With the exception of getting a free region, the benefits are quite modest. The penalties can get pretty annoying. It's not a very cost effective way to score a region. But it's very useful if you want to expand against a powerful neighbor, or a neighbor who has powerful friends, without having to suffer all the downsides of going to war against them.
Oh, and it does have to neighbor. You have to have at least one region adjacent to one of theirs, and it can't be their capital.
You don't have to send the same politician each time, as stated in the video, though it helps for reasons that should become clear.
To have any reasonable chance of success you need to send a diplomat who has a high gravitas. The higher the better. The most effective diplomats have a gravitas of 500 or more. So don't send that 15 year old wunderkind, unless you're trying to get him killed on purpose. Going on a mission also raises the politician's gravitas, which is why you're more likely to have success if you use the same ambassador multiple times.
Ignore the part where it says "your ambassador has betrayed you". A given politician is no more or less likely to succeed if you send them back to the same country on the next turn, except insofar as your relationship with that country will be worse (which also affects odds of getting a positive result).
The other factor that matters is ambition, which runs from 1 to 3 and appears fixed- I don't know of any factor or event that raises ambition. Ambition acts as a multiplier for gravitas, so politicians that have a 1 ambition are pretty much useless as diplomats, no matter how much gravitas they accumulate. So if you want effective diplomats, assign any household staff or objects that grant gravitas per turn to politicians that have a high ambition, and wait a few years for them to build their gravitas. You can give them promotions or have them lead troops in battle to speed things up.
The better your relation with the foreign country, the more likely they are to give you good stuff, and the less likely they are to outright kill your ambassador. If you're lucky, you can create a positive feedback loop where each mission gives your ambassador gravitas and each successful mission improves your relationship, so that the foreign country will give away region after region.
There may be a slight risk that the ambassador accumulates so much gravitas she leaves your political party to form their own. That's only happened to me once, when I played Egypt, after an 80-year old princess had charmed the entire Arabian peninsula away from the Arabs.
If the whole process bugs you, don't think of it as foreign rulers gifting you entire cities. Think of it more as your country becoming so dominant over their politics and culture entire cities are defecting to your hegemony.
It’ll be great seeing proper diplomacy in a role play campaign, I think it’ll make for rlly good role play.
Great video m8!
I bet you didn't know you didn't have to place the equipment within the yellow borders but you can actually place them in the much larger white zone
Everyone wants to be an Emperor, General, and Conquer in this game, not to be a Politician.
sending your wife to Carthage is cheaper than getting a divorce.
And i always thought its a placebo that the enrmy starts to die when i spam left click on them with pikemen
Unit left click drag is one of the best UI battle mechanics, all of ur units in shape not a bit left nor right, dunno why people don't like it
I was sending diplomats just to evade a civil war lol...
What battle difficulty changes? The stats and AI movement?
yea
Holy sh*t I have played 1000+ hours and I didn’t know some of these. I am stupid
Can't wait for your role-play campaign. Can you show more close up battle scenes if you can? I love seeing the people in combat ⚔️
How do you move multiple units over to another army ?
superb video some good tips there
Never knew the first one (diplomatic mission), but it seems very useful.
It is quite useful. You can increase your relationship with other faction, making them less hostile with you from red mask to yellow, from Yellow to green, but not instantlly, and if your relationship with the faction is quite great(green mask) you'll get lucky enough that they give you one of their settlement for you. Beware though, sometimes diplomat can be killed or wounded when the diplomat failed carrying their job or worse they can decrease your relationship the faction you send them
Oh yes, I didn't discover that some times when you're on the defense, your settlement may have a building where you can place troops.
With a Garrison force of 3-4 hundred I defeated a force of 1200
LOL "Murdered my in game wife"
What are you talking about with Pikes? I've never heard something so stupid in regards to their usage.
I wish you didnt need to click the phalanx walls to engage so many times to make them do something this is why i tend to play more rome remastered over rome 2 since I usually pick greek cities or other Hellenic factions in my campaign
Great video.. I have lots of food but attritiom still gets me.
Plague? Weather conditions? There can be many ways you can get attrition, it's not all about food.
There is any version of rome 2 with all dlc included?
That sending diplomat thing seems to be based on random chance. I have managed to get settlements from factions who hates me but not at war. And sometimes, I get 3 settlements in quick succession from non-allied factions.
Can you recruit other factions unit for yourself???? Plz tell
is thsi game hard to learn i keep enjoying the battles in yt videos but i have no idea how the base game works
left click drag is reason i cant play medieval 2 and rome 1 anymore, shogun also, I NEED THAT
Same brother. I wish there was a mod for shogun 2 to alt+ctrl drag and rotate. Only thing missing for a perfect tw game
Lol left click drag is just a combination of features already in rome 1 , you achieve it with alt and do the left click drag, also group to keep formation I thing
Should help thanks. It's been years since I played Rome 1 and Rome 2 doesn't seem to explain the changes very well. Lots of work figuring out how everything works.
Hey man, thanks for the tips. Haven't played a TW game since Medieval 2 and recently upgraded my PC so decided to delve into Rome 2. Learned a few new things from your video so thanks for that, I was just curious as to what Unit Card mod you are using at 5:35 in the video? It looks really clean compared to others I've seen and I'm finding it hard to fall in love with the "stylistic" unit card look in the vanilla game XD
I think he is using Divide et Impera. But this is not a unit card mod it does change the entire game.
Does it work with every diplomat (members of a family which it's not mine) you can send, or only using diplomats who are members of my family (ex. Macedon, an Antigonid family member)?
Yes, as long as they are not leading an army.
You can also send them to increase public order or food in a province for a few turn.
4:31 - How do you make your unit cards that style?
That's from the mod Divide et Impera. It's a good mod although it's not quite so easy, it takes some time to get used to.
Thanks for these informative tw videos. They are very useful. I always watch them.
Idk about the pikemen thing with traits and toadies mod, and 4 turns per year mod I have an amazing Macedonian pike and agrarian peltast combo. They give you like 50% plus ammunition and 10% more armor and melee defense off like two levels of a General alone. That or more ammo than that even with high level tech research :3 plus with the missile damage buffs I just place peltasts behind pike and I ‘walk’ the pikes into the enemy and when have time I run them to gaps and then rears of enemy (re engaging with pike mode on last sec for hammer anvil) cav is over rated too just keep one and hide it for mopping up fleeing foes and honestly. Great vid tho!
I actually found the encyclopedia to be the most annoying part of the game
Its actually useful sometimes
Nice province you got there. Shame if someone with 2000 troops swoops in to take it forcefully
knmööw ine formetino this guys accent kills me
I wish I knew this about medical total was before
So let me get this straight, you need to capture enemy stable, with another prebuilt enemy stable inside of it to recruit Camel Archers? What camels are those, that they require two stables, one inside the other?
You need to capture a settlement with a pre-built stable. And then not convert that stable other to one of your buildings.
@@MelkorGG Guess my joke wasn't really clear, my bad. I figured what you meant, just at around 3:17 you said "you need to capture a enemy stable, that has pre-built stable in there"
It’s because Egypt is two unstable
Wait you can send people as diplomats?!??!
What UK accent is this? Sounds like every female flight attendants on the low cost flights, always loved that accent =)
Yorkshire, northern England. A poor part of England, so that makes sense XD
Could you make video explaining campaign difficulty and battle difficulty effects in each total war game, or you already made a video
I did one for Rome 1 TOtal War and it did ok, but the issue is, the information is very difficult to find.
@@MelkorGG 👍
is the left click unit option also in empire, napoleon, shogun 2, attila, warhammer 1 and 2, and 3 kingdoms?
Weird, the left click drag seems such a huge upgrade IMO. I spend pre battle times setting things up, then just drag the formation around. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
Miss seeing your uploads bud
i have a question, is the faction judea in de Divided et empire DLC?
Please do this with Atilla as well. Thank you
I too would like a things you didn’t know about Attila. All of melkor’s videos made me realize how little I know about the games (like the alt button to have your missile cavalry/infantry charge your enemy. Been playing the game again as the Seleucid empire and have finally been able to a good start as this faction because of this one thing.
Edit: have also been playing the total war franchise since Rome 1 in 2006.
Have you been in Kitchen Nightmares?
I can’t play the base game anymore after being spoiled by Divide Et Impera. So as a “I wish I knew earlier” I wish I played Divide Et Impera way earlier. My only complaint is that I’m 90% sure that the population mechanic doesn’t affect the AI.
How many turns did it take to get a free settlement?
I used to use diplo missions to get rid of rival faction members.
In this game is equipment? :|
What language is this?
hi, im new in total war rome 2. im in rome using house of cornelia. when i check the map then political affiliation, its divided by my house of cornelia and some to house of junia. is it possible to rule the entire map using house of cornelia?
"Rome 2 pikemen are so bad"
Here i am winning every battle with little to no losses with a bad unit :D
exactly people just aren't using them correctly, even now they tend to kick my tail
Melkor, Lads, Are your from Birmingham ?
Oof
Yorkshire.
@@MelkorGG All right mate, cheers then 🍻
man i love this game i have started over and over again on it because its just to damn hard but i will not give up i shall not give up on it never!
Same. I see ppl talking about having to play on Legendary for a fun challenge and I've yet to beat it on Normal with Rome Julii. Heh..
@@andrewzevallos2454 well i just play it on normal turned out i have given up
hello
The great Hannibal Himself !
Lol i almost uninstalled rome 2 due to this left click move. Good thing i found the solution on google just right before i was going to uninstall it.
i like the left-click-to-drag, it allows you to move entire armies very fast. Hold alt+leftklick. This whole thing with "it happens accidentaly" i do know aswell, but it is a glitch and that is NOT how it is supposed to work. It's supposed to only work if you press alt, but for some reason, it activates itself sometimes when only klicking left mouse.
Wrong, it's not a glitch. It's literally an option.
That's literally how it is in Rome 2, they changed it later when they made Attila, it took me a while to figure out I had to press ALT + Left click to move, I almost thought they removed it tbh.
what pack you playing, i never seen that in rome version
I had Thessalonians give me a settlement on wos and I had no idea how I did it haha thanks for that
I didnt know i can recruit more than 1 unit lol playing too much rome 1
04:47 🤣
I Knew All This But The Thing I Was Actually Searching For Was How To Get Rid Of Traits.
I Appreciate Your Work But This Isn't What I Was Looking For (Seriously Help Me, Half My Family Members Like Greeks And Are Culture Converting My Whole Empire To Hellenic And I'm Persian I Don't Have Enough Shrines For This Sh*t)
I wish I knew it exsist ed earlier but shogun2 was just the stuff
I will use your Rome 2 let’s play as a guide in how to actually play that game. Bought it on release, to this day I don’t understand how to play it.
Very helpful cheers!
I have thousands of hours xp, but still 0 idea what ur talking about with the left click issue. A left click doesn’t give a move issue... even if a or all units are selected. Maybe ur just wording it weird. Good vid tho
i am a total war fan for 11 years not a professional player but i can play campaign of all total war games from medieval 2 onward and know a lot about toal war but i'm always ready to learn. pike are good actually they are killing machines
I agree with you. I had a unit of pikemen who lost around 50 men and got over 600 kills.
Waw ❤️
How do you even get deployable equipment?
After winning war you get army tradition. There read before select.
encamping and ambushs
Oh shit word I didn't even notice cause I always choose cunning for the extra map movement
@@cyberwolf1998 army traditions not general traits
This guy feeling dumb that he didn't know how to place equipment down and here's me not even knowing that you can get equipment, I'm glad I watched this.
How do you unlock equipment like in the video