Why didn't Trump use Gibson for his guitars? MAGAts are buying "patriotic" Trump guitars for $11,000 that are made by a cheap builder in Asia. Kawai Teisco was founded by Atswo Kaneko and Doryu Matsuda. The company also produced guitars for Ibanez in the 1960s. Kawai Teisco has created its own brands such as Kawai, Teisco, Del Rey and Teisco Del Rey but has also produced guitars for many other brands, including Trump guitars. I figured He would go Gibson since it is so damn "American", but ya know, that would be "quality" and "quality" doesn't leave room for grifting.
If you like Les Paul Jr.’s, I think the Epiphone models are just as cool and they’re around $500 usually. You can buy a different P90 if the Epiphone one isn’t good enough and maybe change the wiring to a Gibson setup. You could practically make the guitar to sound how you want it to and still save a lot of money. The Jr.’s are just such a simple design that’s very easy to mod in whatever way you want with the pickup. I just can’t justify paying $1600+ for such a basic guitar all because it says Gibson on the headstock. Harley Benton even offers one that’s cheaper and can be modded just as easily as the Epiphone version!
$1699 for a DC Junior is crazy; its retail price in 2002-05 was $599. I love Gibson and Fender USA, but it's just insane how inflated their prices have become - it's _way beyond_ the US dollar's inflation. Yesterday I checked Fender's website; their flagship USA Strat and Tele is $2200. Last year's was $1700. Yikes.
I've seen one in person at the gibson garage in London; they're REALLY pretty. It lets the finish colour really shine, and it has a cool almost fuzzy effect to the wood. I love them
@@Guitardist who knows. Their market is the blues doctor/lawyer. They’ve got dough rolling in left and right with all these expensive models they keep listing. Honestly, Gibson’s are so expensive for what they are. You can build yourself a better guitar or something extremely comparable for such a better price. with the political changes in the United States, hopefully we have American products costing less because production is going to be coming home for more things in general. Hopefully that helps to bring down the cost of American made instruments, but only time will tell.
That's what I was thinking when I saw that color, and my old punk rock buddy had an older model. Sadly, in Johnny's day, you could buy one for about a week's pay. $1699 for a one-pickup slab body guitar is just madness. I love it, but the price is insane.
I got one for $500, but didn't like the maple neck. Sold it for a small profit, thinking I'd use the money towards a Beato 1st run (before I knew they'd go for $3k used).
Yeah, but consider the TONE ! Add some speed knobs (that also add tone) to shred faster and voila! " The children call him famous what the old men call insane..." "Lather" Jefferson Airplane.
if they made epiphone versions of all of their (solidbody) models for around $200-$500 like fender/squier do, and the QC actually existed, people wouldnt hate them as much. the cheapest double cut non-SG is like $800 or something, and i love the look of the doublecuts.
When relicing, to be accurate for the real old models, (I have seen a lot of originals at least through pictures) they need to make the binding yellow, which some collectors think looks good, personally, I don't like the look. I do enough accidental "relicing" on my own I don't need to pay extra.
@ that’s amazing!!!! I remember when I was younger looking at a LP Jr at a store, and it was around $1000 then, I think. But it was still too pricy, and not the finish I was really into, so I never got it… maybe I should have
I bought the vintage cherry Les Paul jr double cut from the Gibson garage in London a few weeks ago when they'd just come in and I had to get it once I played it.
I don’t know if you noticed, the new double cut juniors are slightly different than the originals. Like the BJ juniors at the neck joint the fretboard goes into the body leaving the 22nd fret even with the body line. On all the original and C.S. Models the fretboard ends and the body line. I don’t know why they are doing that. The full neck fretboard and all did not go into the body. I hope you point that out on your review. I watch your shows everyday. I’ll be on tour overseas and I still make sure I watch it. Thank you and love your show. My son bought a GOTM Ace style Les Paul from you for me. Thank you.
This 👆 the specs are definitely more like the Billie Joe from 2011. Not just the fretboard overlap but the strap button on the horn, the screw in bushings on the tuners. With the neck it’s maybe to do with short vs long neck tenon perhaps. They have to find some period correct ways of separating the cs version but at this point we’re talking neck profile, tenon, vos, nylon nut, tuners being the double price. Can only jazz a junior up so much. I just ordered mine yesterday, I don’t like buying blind but gibson garage is too far away to try 1. 🤞 it’s qc is on par with my other post 2019 Gibson’s.
Yea these guitars are very much "Gibson USA" spec"d. The few Gibson USA doublecut juniors have always had the strap pin on the upper horn/cutaway. I prefer that mounting location versus the original. Doesnt jab you in the gut lol
The Mary Ford Goldtop also has a different pickupset, it has bustbucker 2(neck) and bustbucker 3(bridge) pickups instead of the bustbucker 1(neck) and bustbucker 2(bridge) set in the normal 50's goldtop
Why Exclusive on the Junior? They want to hit a price for a US built guitar that is in the same spot as some of the newer Imports (Epi, Reverend, etc). A $1499/$1699 imported guitar is not rare these days. Normally, Gibson would build it for A, sell to the dealer at C, who would offer it to customers (MAP price) at F. By being Exclusive, they make it at A but sell at E, hitting that in-between and still making more than C (selling to a dealer). Thank You, Internet.
As Trogly said previously, Gibson picked up Jared Brandon of Brandonwound pickups to be their pickup builder and designer. Jared Brandon’s old apprentice still runs Brandonwound pickups and they are very similar to the Jared Brandon era. So for very close sound to the current expensive Gibson ones you can still get the Brandonwound for much less money
I love the little Lifton cases, but frankly the regular Custombuckers are so expensive they should have them. Still gonna buy the regular ones though...
@@davidpaul6656 I was young and it was the 80's and Hair Metal was floyds and humbuckers. also had a 59 tobacco burst 330 I let go. i didnt have money to keep every guitar and it was always horse trading one for the next guitar.
I just wish Gibson would release the Super 74 pickups at their pickup shop. I’ve written them twice about it, but their replies were basically a blow-off. 🙄
Was getting worried you were in that blackout. That looks so odd with that Oxblood so heavily aged and the binding being white. But the edge of the pickguard is yellowed as if it were aged. It makes the pickguard stand out against the binding. Would be awesome if these cosmic stew guitars could have some of the pictures we sometimes see from JPL and various space telescopes . Or at least artist rendering of.
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Relic'd guitars are so silly. A guitar's battle scars over the years/decades tell its story.. you remember the night you left your cig in the headstock and it got that burn, that funny looking scratch near the bridge that almost looks like your initials, etc.. Buy-ing a guitar with a bunch of pre distressed tooling marks to emulate that look (and paying out the nose for it) just seems like such a foolish waste of money. When someone asks "how'd this scratch happen?" do you make something up or sheepishly admit "oh I paid the folks at Gibson to make it look like I play this guitar way more than I really do" lol but hey if it makes someone else happy then more power to you.. its definitely making Gibson happy (and a whole lotta money!)
Does anyone know anything else about the Mary Ford Goldtop? If this one has the same specs as her original? I ask because…The original one was chambered. This was before weight saving was a thing. So to make her guitar lighter (same reason the SG was so thin, it was designed with her in mind), they just made what we would call today a carved back. Like a CS-336 or ES-446 or Hamer Monaco Super Pro or Gibson Midtown etc. I was hoping this version would have the chamber, but it doesn’t seem like it. It’s really hard to find any info on the original Goldtop they made for her. I also have no idea if her guitar had Soapbars or Humbuckers…I do know it was a one-off. non-production guitar, but that’s it 🤷🏻♂️
@ahoneyman The materials that command that price, what is the cost where's the magic. Seymour Duncan has 1000.00 pups wound with silver?= That's something I put on a scale
@zororosario I think Ron Ellis worked at the Fender Custom shop. He's actually handled and rewound vintage pickups. He also has years of experience doing so. Dunno how much high end metallurgical and material analysis costs. Dunno who still makes things like butyrate or how much limited runs of bobbins cost. How much do enameled wire and butyrate bobbins add to overall tone? Maybe a little or maybe a lot. Eric Johnson could tell what kind of batteries were in his effects pedals by sound alone. The human ear is a wonderful thing.
As long as there is juice in its fans, Gibson will squeeze them like lemons. This brand is once again becoming lamentable due to its commercial practices and its manufacturing quality which is starting to sink again.
@@davidpaul6656 yeah, and pretty much the only difference was the finish. Correct me if I’m wrong, but if I’m not mistaken, The specs were pretty much the same except for the tortoiseshell guard. Just slightly different pic guards and a different finish with like $1000 to a $1200 price jump? That’s still kind of ridiculous.
Love Gibson guitars. Hate Gibson's current marketing-centric business model. It's all about crazy base prices, even crazier collector's-edition or limited-edition prices, replicating 59-year-old guitars played by "iconic" players and then cutting out dealers. Not to mention $80 hoodies and $200 cutting boards. I would rather buy used than benefit Gibson at this point.
Not new models just old models revamped so sad you have to say they are new models tell the truth they have just revamped a old model given it a newish paint job changed a pickup or a few specs and called it a new model and put on a over the top price 😢😢
OxBlood Custom is spectacular..But the wear and distressing looks kiddish and rather spoiled the guitar, also Gibson is obviously on a money grab with the pricing, definitely better instruments without the Gibson logo and quality issues by other brands, a fool and his money are soon parted..
Man $1700 for a junior… or you could get the PRS SE Custom 24 Semi-hollow piezo and have so much more tonal choices, and a nice flame top and matching headstock. Sorry Gibson.
I have that PRS, I also have a lp junior. Very different beasts. I assumed 1 pickup would mean less options but it’s quite the opposite, it forces you to be more dynamic with picking, your vol & tone roll off. Se piezo is nice but just totally different animals
And that folks is the reason why my luthier is building me my dream Les Paul right now with better quality and for less money than what one of those Custom Shops will set you back...
A grand for them pick ups, set one and two, I bet there's no difference but one looks shitty lol...I bet they got left overs, it's way to much..cost em 40 bucks to make...it's still the one thing that drives every one crazy about Gibson, is their pricing, every channel has issues with their prices but Trog here it seems...just saying man...can't forget their lawsuits on little guitar makers over the V, one guy does 9 guitars a year and got hit with a lawsuit two week ago...just, really Gibson? Really?
Reliced guitars? Reliced guitar prices?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.Better idea. Buy one guitar,and play the s**t out of it. Believe me. These super expensive relics are a fad, and will sink like a battled ship in a few years when the guitar playing community comes to it senses. Just like the Rolex fan boys from a few years ago. Play, and relic your own guitar. It will mean so much to you, and your estate in the end.
Amen. Evaluating Used and vintage guitars relies on their condition for their value. How do you evaluate relic guitars?. How do you evaluate relicd guitars later on? How do you tell how much more or less they are worth
I would understand the outrage if brands only offered relic/aged finishes, but you literally have the choice to not buy it aged. Besides, I've worked in music retail for a good few years now, the reliced finishes sell better than the non-aged counterparts in most cases
A reliced guitar is like a cheat code. It's make believe, a pretend object. Today I was swapping some bridges on one of my LPs and dropped it accidently on the black finish. Not what I wanted. At least that was real.
Gibson is in that special era of when the kids who grew up on rock are now in their 50's with lots of money. Consequently, while real guitar manufacturers are building guitars for players, Gibson is building them for collectors. In 20 years they will be bankrupt.
7:16 Looks like someone took a Gibson to the beach and paid $20 to the guy who makes artistic spray painted space art. Do that if you want one, would be cheaper, and probably more original.
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did you noticed one of Ceasar post theres a bull eye LP?
You should cover the Trump Guitars Les Paul copy.
Why didn't Trump use Gibson for his guitars? MAGAts are buying "patriotic" Trump guitars for $11,000 that are made by a cheap builder in Asia.
Kawai Teisco was founded by Atswo Kaneko and Doryu Matsuda. The company also produced guitars for Ibanez in the 1960s. Kawai Teisco has created its own brands such as Kawai, Teisco, Del Rey and Teisco Del Rey but has also produced guitars for many other brands, including Trump guitars.
I figured He would go Gibson since it is so damn "American", but ya know, that would be "quality" and "quality" doesn't leave room for grifting.
1k Pickups, 8k Guitars....who the hell is paying these prices?
But now that the're re-releasing the DC Jr. maybe they will bring back the SG Jr..
It's all bullshit
If you like Les Paul Jr.’s, I think the Epiphone models are just as cool and they’re around $500 usually. You can buy a different P90 if the Epiphone one isn’t good enough and maybe change the wiring to a Gibson setup. You could practically make the guitar to sound how you want it to and still save a lot of money. The Jr.’s are just such a simple design that’s very easy to mod in whatever way you want with the pickup. I just can’t justify paying $1600+ for such a basic guitar all because it says Gibson on the headstock. Harley Benton even offers one that’s cheaper and can be modded just as easily as the Epiphone version!
$1699 for a DC Junior is crazy; its retail price in 2002-05 was $599. I love Gibson and Fender USA, but it's just insane how inflated their prices have become - it's _way beyond_ the US dollar's inflation. Yesterday I checked Fender's website; their flagship USA Strat and Tele is $2200. Last year's was $1700. Yikes.
Trogly.
Remember when he said epiphones should be priced higher and then they were
Someone is or else they wouldn’t be charging that much.
$1K for a set of NEW pickups!? They're not even vintage pickups!! Gibson is outta F'in control with their prices!
Absolutely!!
Not me. $1,700.00 for a Jr.???
I must confess that I personally far prefer a plain top to flamed or quilted.
I mean, I like the fancy guitars… But I have to say the plain top has a certain appeal to it.
Same.
I've seen one in person at the gibson garage in London; they're REALLY pretty. It lets the finish colour really shine, and it has a cool almost fuzzy effect to the wood. I love them
I prefer it plain too!
As long as people buy pickups for 1k they will provide😅
you are exactly correct sir 😩
$500 for the case
I wonder what Gibson's annual cocaine budget is? 🤔
hahahahahaha….nice👍
@@Guitardist who knows. Their market is the blues doctor/lawyer. They’ve got dough rolling in left and right with all these expensive models they keep listing.
Honestly, Gibson’s are so expensive for what they are. You can build yourself a better guitar or something extremely comparable for such a better price. with the political changes in the United States, hopefully we have American products costing less because production is going to be coming home for more things in general. Hopefully that helps to bring down the cost of American made instruments, but only time will tell.
High very high
Your are funny dude that's what I was thinking. Good one...but I'm addicted to guitars that is. I'm sick....
Probably not near as much as the imported brands from china
Want that TV yellow double cut junior, ala Johnny Thunders!
That's what I was thinking when I saw that color, and my old punk rock buddy had an older model. Sadly, in Johnny's day, you could buy one for about a week's pay. $1699 for a one-pickup slab body guitar is just madness. I love it, but the price is insane.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: collectors be crazy.
I got 2 double cut special 2019 tributes when they were on clearance for $650! I'm glad i jumped on those.
Grabbed one also on a SDOTD for 599, great guitar and just a new pickguard away from looking way better than stock
I got one for $500, but didn't like the maple neck. Sold it for a small profit, thinking I'd use the money towards a Beato 1st run (before I knew they'd go for $3k used).
I wish the Mary Ford model had her name on the guitar.
yeah, and not call it a Les Paul.
I completely agree, feels a little reductive :(
This!
Her name and P-90s. Anything else is obviously wrong.
Wait! What?! $1,000 for pickups? Things are getting out of hand!
Trogly, are you saying that Gibson is basically charging an extra $2K for an upgraded truss rod cover? 😆
Yeah, but consider the TONE !
Add some speed knobs (that also add tone) to shred faster and voila!
" The children call him famous what the old men call insane..." "Lather" Jefferson Airplane.
I still can’t get into paying double or triple to have the Murphy lab beat up your brand new Les Paul.
I'll never comprehend the relic and aged fad...
Same here. It's being a poser.
@07blackdog
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What makes sense about 1k pickups for a display piece? Trogley is as high as Gibson! Stop sniffing the lacquer!
1:01 AM IS CRAZY TROGLY WHATS UP WITH THESE TIMES
Just like the Lord, the Trog works in strange, and mysterious ways. Just glad he posted. Was jonesing for my dose of guitar info.
Better late than never
@@Dragon_rls Just like the lord, indeed.
He was having problems with his editor recently. I guess he still is.
It's just a time.
if they made epiphone versions of all of their (solidbody) models for around $200-$500 like fender/squier do, and the QC actually existed, people wouldnt hate them as much. the cheapest double cut non-SG is like $800 or something, and i love the look of the doublecuts.
When you get your double cut LP Jr in, can you A/B it to the sound of a single cutaway Jr.?
That purple one makes me want an esp ec1000
When relicing, to be accurate for the real old models, (I have seen a lot of originals at least through pictures) they need to make the binding yellow, which some collectors think looks good, personally, I don't like the look. I do enough accidental "relicing" on my own I don't need to pay extra.
I hate how Jrs were originally made to be an affordable Les Paul, but now they’re still 2 grand
My 58 LP Jr. was $120 new. I still have it and the price tag.
@ that’s amazing!!!! I remember when I was younger looking at a LP Jr at a store, and it was around $1000 then, I think. But it was still too pricy, and not the finish I was really into, so I never got it… maybe I should have
I bought the vintage cherry Les Paul jr double cut from the Gibson garage in London a few weeks ago when they'd just come in and I had to get it once I played it.
I don’t know if you noticed, the new double cut juniors are slightly different than the originals. Like the BJ juniors at the neck joint the fretboard goes into the body leaving the 22nd fret even with the body line. On all the original and C.S. Models the fretboard ends and the body line. I don’t know why they are doing that. The full neck fretboard and all did not go into the body. I hope you point that out on your review. I watch your shows everyday. I’ll be on tour overseas and I still make sure I watch it. Thank you and love your show. My son bought a GOTM Ace style Les Paul from you for me. Thank you.
This 👆 the specs are definitely more like the Billie Joe from 2011. Not just the fretboard overlap but the strap button on the horn, the screw in bushings on the tuners. With the neck it’s maybe to do with short vs long neck tenon perhaps. They have to find some period correct ways of separating the cs version but at this point we’re talking neck profile, tenon, vos, nylon nut, tuners being the double price. Can only jazz a junior up so much. I just ordered mine yesterday, I don’t like buying blind but gibson garage is too far away to try 1. 🤞 it’s qc is on par with my other post 2019 Gibson’s.
Yea these guitars are very much "Gibson USA" spec"d. The few Gibson USA doublecut juniors have always had the strap pin on the upper horn/cutaway. I prefer that mounting location versus the original. Doesnt jab you in the gut lol
@@danjames8570 I hate buying blind.
The Mary Ford Goldtop also has a different pickupset, it has bustbucker 2(neck) and bustbucker 3(bridge) pickups instead of the bustbucker 1(neck) and bustbucker 2(bridge) set in the normal 50's goldtop
I prefer plain tops actually!
I love Les Paul plain maple tops and its all I've ever owned including on a Custom. Good to see Cesar in the shop with hands on.
Seymour Duncan makes very similar paf pickups , signed by Joe Bonamassa in the $300 dollar range. And that’s plenty of money for pickups.🎉😅
At last my fix.
I had a sneaking feeling that they were going to make more Juniors. The way the walnut is selling, they would have been fools not to.
There he is…my whole family was worried!
So perhaps that Caesar model should have been an Epicphone product!?
These new guitars are not available to Canada that’s bullshit
Why Exclusive on the Junior? They want to hit a price for a US built guitar that is in the same spot as some of the newer Imports (Epi, Reverend, etc). A $1499/$1699 imported guitar is not rare these days.
Normally, Gibson would build it for A, sell to the dealer at C, who would offer it to customers (MAP price) at F.
By being Exclusive, they make it at A but sell at E, hitting that in-between and still making more than C (selling to a dealer).
Thank You, Internet.
$1,000 pickups hahaha wow
As Trogly said previously, Gibson picked up Jared Brandon of Brandonwound pickups to be their pickup builder and designer. Jared Brandon’s old apprentice still runs Brandonwound pickups and they are very similar to the Jared Brandon era. So for very close sound to the current expensive Gibson ones you can still get the Brandonwound for much less money
I love the little Lifton cases, but frankly the regular Custombuckers are so expensive they should have them. Still gonna buy the regular ones though...
Gibson has been making great decisions on models the last few years, giving the people what they want
Would be cool to see them recreate all of the guitars Mary Ford played.
The Mary Ford model is surprisingly reasonable in price!
would love to see you do an episode on the upcoming jeff beck christies auction
That cosmic Les Paul looks like a bowling ball was sacrificed lol!
Like the TV yellow double cut it's a winner 👍🤘 don't like $1000 dollar pickups that's a joke 🤮
Omg a cherry in gloss. I had 2 1959s and and miss them so much. very curious of future review
You HAD two '59s!? What happened?
@@davidpaul6656 I was young and it was the 80's and Hair Metal was floyds and humbuckers. also had a 59 tobacco burst 330 I let go. i didnt have money to keep every guitar and it was always horse trading one for the next guitar.
0:40 The TV Yellow one should be a "smashing" success.
4:07 But what does Ritchie Blackmore think?
A unique spec about the Mary Ford Les Paul is the 60's neck on a 50's goldtop
trogly can you make the gibson dudes give us new colors on production explorers?
Wow, new and exclusive. Gross!! Just put out quality guitars at a reasonable price.
where can you buy the TV Junior? I want it
Hell yeah some double cut representation
Great show and hilarious comments!
Can you review a sj 200 with pickups?
Plain Top Les Pauls are the best looking Les Pauls, IMO.
I just wish Gibson would release the Super 74 pickups at their pickup shop. I’ve written them twice about it, but their replies were basically a blow-off. 🙄
Was getting worried you were in that blackout. That looks so odd with that Oxblood so heavily aged and the binding being white. But the edge of the pickguard is yellowed as if it were aged. It makes the pickguard stand out against the binding. Would be awesome if these cosmic stew guitars could have some of the pictures we sometimes see from JPL and various space telescopes . Or at least artist rendering of.
I love plain tops
A plan top Standard LP has no advantage over the LP Classic 60's with no holes in it! In my opinion.
1:11 will these give my Gibbons authentic '59 toan?
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More Murphy’s Law, than Murphy Lab…
Relic'd guitars are so silly. A guitar's battle scars over the years/decades tell its story.. you remember the night you left your cig in the headstock and it got that burn, that funny looking scratch near the bridge that almost looks like your initials, etc.. Buy-ing a guitar with a bunch of pre distressed tooling marks to emulate that look (and paying out the nose for it) just seems like such a foolish waste of money. When someone asks "how'd this scratch happen?" do you make something up or sheepishly admit "oh I paid the folks at Gibson to make it look like I play this guitar way more than I really do" lol but hey if it makes someone else happy then more power to you.. its definitely making Gibson happy (and a whole lotta money!)
Always request Enquiries and you might be successful.
do u work for Gibson?
Does anyone know anything else about the Mary Ford Goldtop? If this one has the same specs as her original? I ask because…The original one was chambered. This was before weight saving was a thing. So to make her guitar lighter (same reason the SG was so thin, it was designed with her in mind), they just made what we would call today a carved back. Like a CS-336 or ES-446 or Hamer Monaco Super Pro or Gibson Midtown etc. I was hoping this version would have the chamber, but it doesn’t seem like it. It’s really hard to find any info on the original Goldtop they made for her. I also have no idea if her guitar had Soapbars or Humbuckers…I do know it was a one-off. non-production guitar, but that’s it 🤷🏻♂️
Fine but please improve that damn yellow cigar.
Bring back the es 175 the l-4ces the l-5ces and the super 400ces Gibson or I’ll make enough money to buy you Gibson
Yes! Finally a TV DC junior
How dare you! Posting daily but not to my schedule!
Mary Ford vs. Mary Kaye guitar shootout!
Please 1000.00 pick-ups? Cash grab from the people with too much money?
Ron Ellis will run you $900. Throbak will run you $800 and Virgil Arlo can run you $1800+ (he's retired) That's what top end PAFs cost.
@ahoneyman The materials that command that price, what is the cost where's the magic. Seymour Duncan has 1000.00 pups wound with silver?= That's something I put on a scale
@zororosario I think Ron Ellis worked at the Fender Custom shop. He's actually handled and rewound vintage pickups. He also has years of experience doing so. Dunno how much high end metallurgical and material analysis costs. Dunno who still makes things like butyrate or how much limited runs of bobbins cost. How much do enameled wire and butyrate bobbins add to overall tone? Maybe a little or maybe a lot. Eric Johnson could tell what kind of batteries were in his effects pedals by sound alone. The human ear is a wonderful thing.
Love them all
As long as there is juice in its fans, Gibson will squeeze them like lemons. This brand is once again becoming lamentable due to its commercial practices and its manufacturing quality which is starting to sink again.
Huh 🤔
Why tf is it $1800? I remember when these things were $600 at Guitar Center. What a crazy world we live in.
I believe those were the Tribute models you're talking about.
@@davidpaul6656 yeah, and pretty much the only difference was the finish. Correct me if I’m wrong, but if I’m not mistaken, The specs were pretty much the same except for the tortoiseshell guard. Just slightly different pic guards and a different finish with like $1000 to a $1200 price jump? That’s still kind of ridiculous.
3:19 sh'what?
Dear god
TROGG!!!!
I thought the original guitar she had was with P90s???
Soooooo late last night….
Love Gibson guitars. Hate Gibson's current marketing-centric business model. It's all about crazy base prices, even crazier collector's-edition or limited-edition prices, replicating 59-year-old guitars played by "iconic" players and then cutting out dealers. Not to mention $80 hoodies and $200 cutting boards. I would rather buy used than benefit Gibson at this point.
Can't wait for Chibson pickups in a handbag for 25 bucks. 😂😂😂
I must admit, I do wonder how many used paf type pickups on eBay etc, are fake.
no new models here
Not new models just old models revamped so sad you have to say they are new models tell the truth they have just revamped a old model given it a newish paint job changed a pickup or a few specs and called it a new model and put on a over the top price 😢😢
The Dark Walnut colour looks more like a Mr Hankey brown.
❤better late than never hey buddy
OxBlood Custom is spectacular..But the wear and distressing looks kiddish and rather spoiled the guitar, also Gibson is obviously on a money grab with the pricing, definitely better instruments without the Gibson logo and quality issues by other brands, a fool and his money are soon parted..
1k for two humbuckers!!?? might as well just burn your cash
Everything gibson does is "exlusive"🤣
OoOoO a late episode!
Ninth!
A THOUSAND DOLLARS for a set of pickups? Thievery.
Maybe it's just me, but I think those plain-tops are quite pretty
Explosive...... expensive, to expensive! Shame on you Gibson! 😡
Yay
Total insanity.
Man $1700 for a junior… or you could get the PRS SE Custom 24 Semi-hollow piezo and have so much more tonal choices, and a nice flame top and matching headstock. Sorry Gibson.
I have that PRS, I also have a lp junior. Very different beasts. I assumed 1 pickup would mean less options but it’s quite the opposite, it forces you to be more dynamic with picking, your vol & tone roll off. Se piezo is nice but just totally different animals
And that folks is the reason why my luthier is building me my dream Les Paul right now with better quality and for less money than what one of those Custom Shops will set you back...
I am not paying 1700 bucks for something I can make for a few hundred .
A grand for them pick ups, set one and two, I bet there's no difference but one looks shitty lol...I bet they got left overs, it's way to much..cost em 40 bucks to make...it's still the one thing that drives every one crazy about Gibson, is their pricing, every channel has issues with their prices but Trog here it seems...just saying man...can't forget their lawsuits on little guitar makers over the V, one guy does 9 guitars a year and got hit with a lawsuit two week ago...just, really Gibson? Really?
Yooo
✌️✌️Grant
Reliced guitars? Reliced guitar prices?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.Better idea. Buy one guitar,and play the s**t out of it. Believe me. These super expensive relics are a fad, and will sink like a battled ship in a few years when the guitar playing community comes to it senses. Just like the Rolex fan boys from a few years ago. Play, and relic your own guitar. It will mean so much to you, and your estate in the end.
Amen. Evaluating Used and vintage guitars relies on their condition for their value. How do you evaluate relic guitars?. How do you evaluate relicd guitars later on? How do you tell how much more or less they are worth
I would understand the outrage if brands only offered relic/aged finishes, but you literally have the choice to not buy it aged. Besides, I've worked in music retail for a good few years now, the reliced finishes sell better than the non-aged counterparts in most cases
A reliced guitar is like a cheat code. It's make believe, a pretend object. Today I was swapping some bridges on one of my LPs and dropped it accidently on the black finish. Not what I wanted. At least that was real.
To be fair, the relic thing has been popular for a quite a while now.
Indeed
By new we mean the same guitars we have been making for 70 years, please buy something at 1000x the value it was in 1950
Gibson is for fan boys! I`m still waiting to see a recent model,that's worth the $
Gibson is in that special era of when the kids who grew up on rock are now in their 50's with lots of money. Consequently, while real guitar manufacturers are building guitars for players, Gibson is building them for collectors.
In 20 years they will be bankrupt.
At those prices I think Gibson has been huffing too much of that fancy paint
7:16 Looks like someone took a Gibson to the beach and paid $20 to the guy who makes artistic spray painted space art. Do that if you want one, would be cheaper, and probably more original.
First! trogly in the house