It's this SHOCKINGLY Easy to Steal a Car!? Bye Bye My Focus RS
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Prepare to be shocked by just how easily your pride and joy can be stolen by a relay attack! Car theft numbers are rising fast, and with my Focus RS parked on the driveway, we see a live demonstration of just how quickly a criminal can steal the car and drive it away. Scary isn't it?!
There are now millions of cars being stolen per year via relay attacks whereby criminals get their hands on devices that can read and repeat the signal from your car's fob to enable keyless access. The key itself can be hundreds of metres away from the car, yet by this method the car can be instantly unlocked, started up, and driven off, and this is quite clearly a major problem.
To demonstrate, we are joined by Henk van Vliet from KIWA SCM, the certification institute in the Netherlands, who are leading the charge against these kind of vehicle thefts. With demonstration equipment for the purpose you can immediate see how this is done, a process that affects everything from Ford Focuses and Fiestas, and VW Golfs, through your Mercedes AMGs, BMW Ms, Audi RS' and Range Rovers all the way up even to supercars if they feature keyless access fobs that don't have a prevention method to relay attacks.
This is where Keyless Protector step in, offering products that will safe guard your keys through different techniques to prevent the car from being stolen so easily. With the system installed to the keys of the Audi SQ5 and then also to my Focus RS, we can see first hand the difference that it makes in preventing this attack.
You can find out more about the Keyless Protector systems here keylessprotect... and should you wish to acquire one, you can find your local dealer here: keylessprotect...
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It's amazing how quickly he's able to get access and steal my car isn't it? Relay attacks have become a very real issue with millions of cars being stolen every year. Keyless Protector have stepped in with a solution and you can find more here: keylessprotector.com
Im dutch welcome to our country
Get a switch on the key is easy as that!!!
Off it when not in use in when needed
You can get Faraday Pouches for under £10 which do the same thing pretty much as long as they're properly shut. But this is much more convenient than having to get your key in and out of a pouch everytime. But it genuinely works standing next to the car
seems like a great job helping keyless owners keep their cars safe
@mohnish, then just order it without keyless entry ;)
The best anti-theft device in America: a manual transmission
JuanVR and a kill switch
Depends on the are you live but yea mostly correct
Most cars in the UK are manual
Hahah so right
@@P33mxn UK went overboard with the protection and put the steering wheel on the wrong side.
That's why I don't have a keyless system in my 1993 VW Golf.
You don't have it because you can't afford anything else LOL
@James Almond I believ he was just being a lil cheeky n sarcastic there
@@rahulsudhir666 yeah man, people don't get sarcasm these days.... I don't even own a VW Golf kkkkkk
Dumb ass , you can’t afford anything else
@James Almond no shit Sherlock Holmes
Tim just sounds like a guy I can trust no matter what circumstance it is
Well ChrisFix just posted a video on how to install a killswitch!
That's not going to help if the thieves are after parts, not the entire car. Cars being stripped right where they sit is also a growing problem
@@damieg82 atleast its something and they dont just take away your entire car..
Omg I just came from the vid 😂
Sure, pay a prestige/exotic car manufacture between 50 and £250,000 then go & get a kill switch installed.
Ye
So basically your car manufacture should give you the option to swap out your wireless key w/ something like this
Consumer's want their convenience features. Manufactures will not likely create a second engineering variant of thier Ignition systems from a CANBUS low current variant, to a high current variant with a Key Cylinder or Key Slot.
God i thought they stole your Focus RS. Because of the title🤦♂️😅
Honestly I was disturbed by how easily it can be done, despite it having happened to friends of mine before over night from outside their house. This is a real problem and that's why the security needs to be stepped up and Keyless Protector come in.
He had us in the first place not gonna lie.
Same
There’s actually a anti theft device for the Focus RS which is a manual gearbox
Same my hearth skiped a beat by reading this title
Tim : *AMAZED* Woow you literally unlocked it so quickly. I’m speechless
Ol’man : And you’re laughing about it
Tim : ..
I wAs lAUghIng iN shOcK
We know Tim we know.
I laughed so much when that happened 😂😂
Hahahahaha yeah I can’t laugh at that oh who am I kidding I was laughing at it the entire time this man doesnt lose a beat when it comes to this stuff this man is a happy as a damn school kid😂😂😂
Mooz
🤣 That was funny
That guy is serious
Lucky me and my '93 mx5, all manual locks
You could leave the keys inside and you would still be fine.
@@Eueyy technically yes
ppl could use a screw driver
I have a 91 and I agree. Although, if anyone wanted to steal it, they could just cut the fabric roof😂😂
@@joecooper3073 that's true, I have a hardtop, but only use it when it gets colder. No point in having it on the car when the weather is nice
A lot of the media have been reporting how cars have been stolen from drive ways so people buy bowls to store their keys, but yes as he pointed out this could happen at any time, you could be shopping for groceries or at the petrol station and the criminal could just stand near by you. Scary stuff!
Perfect ad😂 no one wants their car stolen. Show the thiefs how its done now people have to buy the protector.
personally Id rather they just take the car then break into my house because if they want the car they will get it one way or another
Peter A if your car isnt easy to get into (given it isnt a desirable or expensive car) i dont think they would waste much time on it, there are plenty of other cars around
I thought they were going to show it as well, but it doesnt show you how the software works and all that.
Thief's already know
@@seasgarage If they show how the software works then there'll be a thief that will get a start on getting around that too, and we'll be right back at the start with cars being stolen all over again.
the car manufacturers need to be held to account for this. never buy a keyless car
Create a problem, sell a solution
So know companies apply political tactics, we have gone full circle.
By reading this comment i lost my last brain cell
aynen öylee ☝🏼
This should be a vehicle recall by the manufacturers to put this right. I had to spec comfort access out of my recent BMW M2 Comp to avoid this terrible system.
Craig Tonner BMW offers a modified key which fixes this method of breaking in a car. It disables the key after a couple of minutes without movement. Around €70 in the EU
you could also just turn it off.....
DutchMastermind Klopt, moet enkel bij de dealer middels de diagnose apparatuur en kost je gemiddeld 150 euro. Kan niet middels een instelling uitgeschakeld worden. Achteraf is de beste oplossing dus een nieuwe sleutel
@@bramsmit2795 huh, in mijn 1er was het nog gewoon een instelling, beetje jammer dat het nu veranderd is.
Uit veiligheidsoverwegingen is het niet mogelijk om dit systeem door de eigenaar in of uit te schakelen. Dit is altijd zo geweest. Wellicht dat je het automatisch vergrendelen van de portieren kon instellen.
So quick tip with Mercedes Benz, to disable keyless entry, double tap the lock button on the key. This will revert back to normal as soon as you press any button on the key
Or even better.. you could press a lock button to lock the car and press an unlock button to unlock the car :D
@@rabellogp You missed the point entirely.
KorbeK Gaming honestly 😂😂. Disregarded the point of the comment n went on his own tangent 😂.
AFAIK on the new Merc cars the key needs to be in motion for it to be transmitting. I've only had mine a couple of weeks so I haven't had a chance to properly test this yet personally, but I have noticed that if my key is in my backpack rather than in my pocket the car won't unlock.
@@RichardLartey Eh, it's such a tiny thing to stick the fob in the ignition. I have no idea why keyless go is even a thing. It is completely unnecessary.
Tap it twice! One day you won't get into your car cause the key fell apart lol
All the keyless systems do is save you from pressing a button and turning the key to start the car.
Quite exhausting and time-consuming, especially compared to actually driving the car ;)
If possible, I will get my next car without keyless entry.
Even ones that don't have proximity sensors (ones where you have to press the "unlock" button) are vulnerable.
So how would shmee buy a senna without the keyless access?
@@danielt9577 "...If possible,..."
My car is a 96 so ha
Actually in Porsche911 configurator you see a disclaimer when selecting keyless entry. Another option is a jacket for your key to prevent it from giving out signals if you already have car with keyless entry.
Wrap your key fob in aluminium foil after you’ve reached home😎
Thank me later👍🏻
Neither of those methods work. My car was stolen recently and was in a keyless proctor pouch
@@thenorthernnomads1768 Probably smashed open and then OBD'd?
@@thenorthernnomads1768 You might just have put the key into a wrong pocket in the pouch. I use a pouch and I can't open my car with the key in a pouch. However, the pouch has an additional pocket, which doesn't have the protective layer.
Shmee: How are you ?
Henk: *Yes* *it* *is*
How this wasn't foreseen by manufacturers is beyond belief. It's glaring obvious they are easier to steal. Bring back proper keys
Ford have just introduced a new key fod that goes to sleep after 40 seconds
Yes. I think 3 minutes is such long time, isn't it?
I go to sleep in less than 40 seconds watching shmeee vlogs
And you can replace both your keys for the same price of 1 keyless protector.
If I remember fords new key was like £70 for one fob.
@@xImJakeyy yes but thats only on the mk8 fiestas from nov18 and the new focus nothing else
@@GT-xe1pt I have an Mk8 ST built in February this year, so does that mean I dont need to buy the new keys?
So, if you get someone within the three minutes or 30 steps you're still beat?
Please do a real test where you lock your car and walk past the guy to see if it's still possible, which it should be again in the 3 min window or 30 feet, you're not going to arrive everywhere 5 mins early just to lock your car.....
Connor Flynn These cars aren’t stolen by opportunists, they’re specifically targeted and tend to be stolen at 3 o’clock in the morning with you in bed and the car sat on your driveway. I doubt someone’s gonna be waiting in your local Tesco car park with one of these devices to steal it in broad daylight in the full view of cameras or donning balaclavas.
@@bax450 hey buddy, they could scan it on your way inside your house if they hid it in a Bush or disguised it, then come back later. Think like a criminal not a douche who thinks "oh cameras stop criminals" they don't guy, that's why they made masks and gloves
@@bax450 well ima sleep in my car with a baseball bat then lmao
@@ConnorFlynnNo1 they dont scan the key. This would be pointless. What they do is repeat the active signal (like wifi repeater).
This is generally a 2 men operation. One guy (A) goes to your front door (where most ppl leave their keys when theyre at home) while the other guy (B) waits at your car. The device of A will pick up the signal and forward/repeat it to the device of B which then will be able to unlock and start the car. The car will remain functional until you turn off the ignition
@@ukaros1912 you have to scan the signal to be able to repeat it...
Why can't manufacturers make it so that two clicks on a lock button kills the remote and that way it can't be signalled?
because if you arent sure if you locked your car already and you walked away and locked is a second time and killed the remote, that would become problematic
Didn't catch it. How would it be problematic? Press on a unlock button would wake it up again.
because then the keyless entry wont work so defeats the whole purpose of having the system and therefore the original problem.... might aswell just have normal keyfobs.
Mercedes already does this. its just their owners don't know about it..
Most of the theafts happen at night when car owner is sleeping and key is next to a front door. I would guess it wouldn't be much of a problem to press a button in the morning (before puting it into a pocket). But I also guess it works as well if the key isn't moved and it switches itself off.
Shmee this is a brilliant video and hopefully gets full exposure as far and wide as possible. Great work!
They created keyless protector that could go off in 3 minutes
and they made a hack device that could open your car in less than 3 second and....
yet they showed us in a same single video
GENIUS
Open the battery which is in your car remote. It will not generate frequency.
Well. This sleep after sometime keys not quite a solution. Guy with retranslator can just go near you in 1-2 meters while you go from your parked car to shop or something like this. Metal pouch case should be ok for the keyless key for safety I think. Or some kind of button which disable/enable the battery.
@@Champik333 ikr
@@Champik333 where is the point of having keyless entry when you have to open a box to get inside your car? Also isnt it possible that the key looses its programming when its disconnected from the battery for to long (i know that this happens when your cars battery is dead for quite some time)
They didn’t make the device in the video only showed it exists and how simple it is to use.
Steering wheel crook lock stopped my TT being stolen only 3 weeks ago - watching out of my bedroom window whilst 5 men got out of a VW Polo (how they got in, I don’t know).
Didn’t have chance to introduce myself and my bull mastiff before they left. Police officers said most criminals want a quick get away and most don’t know how to deal with a mechanical obstacle/deterrent.
Best £50 I’ve spent.
Careful, they might come back with bolt cutters or an angle grinder... Diskloks seem to be less susceptible to being cut off than the bar locks, seems cutting the wheel to remove them is the preferred method.
Back in the 70's each Ford car key would open up to 200 cars.
I find a steering lock and a phial labelled novichok on the dashboard works wonders
Steering wheel locks are incredibly easy to bypass/break
Hi Tim,
Great effort giving yourself the trouble to film, edit and get to all the destinations you go to.
One thing is if they want to do it they will find a away.
The least we can do is to slow down and complicate the process.
Nevertheless I always recommend use hibrid security solutions from mechanical/physical ones to electronic ones, here are a couple: OBD Port protector, Clutch Claw, Steering Lock, re set your vehicle to "no keyless" entry, use a box (tin box) to isolate the frequency produced by the car key, wheel clamp, drive way folding parking post...ah and a warning of a sign saying: BEWARE OF DOGS...with Rabies !!!
For those unable to justify the €150 price tag on this product, a more cost effective option is to buy a lined wallet/pouch to keep your key fob in (sites such as Amazon sell these for under €10). Similarly wrapping the fob in Aluminum foil will do the same; although rather unsightly it is much better than an empty drive/garage!
exactly and keep your banking cards in there as well. Product like this. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A7MACL2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
According to the specialists, they don't seem to work all the time. They are not 100% safe. A signal can still be picked up through the pouch.
@@Shmee150 okay but when I have it in the pouch my lexus or toyota can't detect my key.... It might be related to the quality of the bag and if its sealed properly.
7:50 Wasn't expecting those door handles to move like that.
You can purchase a faraday pouch for your key fob. This will block any signals being emitted from your key.
ikr
But then how will the car read the signal?
@@xinporco u just have to open the pouch & take the key out of it lol
@@TimmyKo The problem now is that most cars come standard with keyless entry, even if many people (like me) don't want it, we're stuck with it. Still needing to get the key out of a pocket to press a button or activate it in some way isn't an issue, for people like me at least.
Keyless entry is a bit pointless in my opinion for everything except opening the boot (when you may have a lot of stuff that can't be set on the ground in order to free a hand to open it). People need to just stop being lazy.
most houses have a faraday device already at home....microwave
I don't need to worry about this, no one is gonna nick my berlingo
I use a small metal tea caddy and put all the keys in there at night 👍. It acts as a faraday cage. It cost €5 and I got 40 cups of tea 😂
Do you also carry that around every day when you go to the shops or your work? ;)
@@Shmee150 No but if i go into a shop or work my key also isn't quietly on a table somewhere for 3 minutes. It stays in my pocket or bag where it will not have any time to "go to sleep" since I'm actually moving around doing the shopping
@@50crates- just wrap your key in foil.
40 cups of tea. Well worth it, lol.
@@Shmee150 There's a buisness opportunity there for foil lined key covers, the same as the foil lined credit card wallets...
I’d rather have my car stolen then slap my leg like a moronical seal every time I’m going for a drive.
getting best of both worlds
Never had a car stolen have you ;-)
Thought this was nothing but commercial
But I found it very interesting
Compliments
Or pay £2 for a pouch to stop the key from broadcasting the signal
kinda defeats the point of keyless entry cause you have to take it out the pouch every time
@@PJDuffield this video shows that keyless is pointless as manufacturers don't care their security has been comprised. Thus when leaving your key by the front door it's not sending out signals if in the pouch. My cards are in a RFID metal wallet. Just be ahead of the curve, might be pointless but rather save then sorry. I have a key for my car and won't use the button to lock it remotely. That's me, My phone has two tier verification to get into it. PJ just play it safe!
Wait it weighs that much
A lot of Faraday pouches aren't made well enough to adequately attenuate the signal. Thieves now have boosters which can detect and amplify _incredibly_ weak signal levels. Cars have been stolen where the keys have been kept inside a pouch well inside the house.
I clicked because I thought it had been taken! Phew. Agreed on the keyless systems - e.g. anyone buying a Golf R with keyless is crazy
Why??
@@chrismaddison4602 Golf Rs are a good steal for thieves
@@Dr1pT00H4rd Usually in London it's the GTIs that get knicked.
It's not just because of keyless entry though and the relay trick can be stopped with a 3quid Faraday pouch.
@@Adam-eo5ff yeah in London there are loads of GTIs. I'm mainly more north where I see more stolen Rs. A neighbour of mine in London had their GTI stolen in the middle of the day.
i feel both Systems would be useless for example if you were walking into a shopping centre and the thief walking the other way as both keys will likely be operating due to motion
Hello is there an update regarding a question previously asked which was how this system is vulnerable to cloning when the device is in your pocket and you are shopping in a supermarket and the potential thief passes you and clones your keyless device
You do realise Ford have a new "sleeping" key that you can upgrade too at any Ford dealer? It currently ships with new fiesta but anyone with that style key can upgrade
anyone? not what ive heard, only mk8 fiestas nov18 onwards and the all new focus, nothing else
When the relay attack does not work, they break a window and disable the alarm, and reprogram a key using the OBD and drive off. So you also need a disc lock, and need to move or protect the OBD port. Protecting the key in a pouch or with that system is not enough.
I think many premium dealers need to offer a free retro fitting servive to protect their cars and install the protection system at their cost.
Clarke Design they clearly know about the issue. You would of thought they'd be doing everything the can to prevent it, wouldn't you!? Especially after you've just spent all that money
They don't give a shit. Car prices are insane, especially how shitty cars, even luxury brands, are. I saw a $120k BMW M3 on UA-cam, MB S63 AMG coupe for $212k, etc. Fuck off. I have a friend who their family have several of the new AMGs every year (S63 coupe, S63 sedan, S65, GL63, SL63 etc.), and they are ALWAYS in the shop, yet cost $150-220k. Same with BMW. The prices will keep on increasing, all while quality and reliability decrease.
@@robs715 I mean with the insurance I am sure all parties will not look forward to paying out alas. I am sure measures will be taken to be better safe than sorry.
I am surprised the case hasn't already been so. 🤔
robs715 ford and VW have already dealt with the issue of relay theft with their newest keys (late 2018 onwards), they are “shake to wake” keys that deactivate if there is no movement after a minute or so, such as when you put the key on a table inside your home, this however will just make the thief’s return to using the old tactic of breaking into your home to steal the key!
Owners need to be aware and not leave their key near their front door. Parents place has a den in front, and they had their keys against the outside wall near the front door...
Mfgs also shouldn't have rushed these to market.
my smug face right now because i drive a bog standard Polo 1.2 with this funny thing called a key
😂 exactly the same
why would someone want a flipping Polo even if keyless entry lmao
@@thesamsungexperiance8853 honestly if you could steal cars this efficiently, you would not even bother with the Focus RS, you would go after much more expensive cars.
@@neovenom9833 they do go after the more expensive cars but in the UK thee some times hard to come by
"why would someone want a flipping Polo"
Easily $5k worth of parts on any car that's not a junker. The most-stolen car in the US is the Honda Civic.
The "funny think called a key"is almost as easy to bypass, by the way.
I knew that technology existed.. Didn't know it worked so efficiently! 🤯
The Focus Mk3 is not only vulnerable to the relay attack, thieves can put the drivers window in, place a OBD key recoder into the OBD port and create a new key in seconds. As there is an alarm dead spot in that area, the alarm doesn’t usually sound.
I have a revolutionary new device to protect your vehicles it’s called steering lock.
and gear lock
Get a pet komodo dragon. 1 bite and the scrote is history.
We had an attempted break in at my house, we think the dogs scared them off. The police recommended that we add crappy brass locks to the windows, add stickers to the windows, get cameras. We did all of it for around £200.
None of it would actually prevent them getting in if they wanted to, very little will. However just having a few visual things to make our house less appealing than the others round it would likely be enough to put them off.
Steering locks are a great visual to put thief's off! Not unbeatable, but enough to make it more of a pain, and hopefully get them to look elsewhere
Thing is, people shouldn't have to rely on third party companies for this stuff, manufacturers should be working with these companies so that cars can have this protection from factory.
Crazy that it is possible to all those expensive cars!
The most relevant video I've seen ever uploaded here.
Where can I buy this device, asking for a friend :)
The dark net?
Don't be ashamed to admit you have a Ferrari. You don't have to say it is for a friend (just joking😀😀😀😀)
Old news, as a minimum you need rf blocking pouch for your keys and then a steering wheel lock and clutch pedal lock, I would then go further and disable the keyless entry (easily done by the manufacturer at delivery) and then get an immobiliser
Great advice !
Thank you my comrade.
As a Romanian I applaud this tutorial on how to steal cars.
Very appreciate.
Thank vodka keyless protection is not that common yet.
Tank sir for reply stick to washing car as your peoples are best at it Sir
Yes, iet very tradition to wash car we steal.
We take good pride as you know.
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So glad i found this video. I'm purchasing a Hyundai i30N shortly, and it has key-less entry & start. Although Hyundai isn't exactly a high value car, it is still a performance car, so imagine just from it looks, people may try something. Another thing I'm looking at using (which may be helpful to other people) is AutoMatrics M-track which is a tracking device running on radio frequency, so essentially a back up in case someone does still manage to take it away.
Actually I30N are super common targets for theft. You can probably spec your car to not have the keyless start
Unfortunately on the i30n there is no spec whatsoever. It comes completely fully speced from factory and can’t change anything apart from paint colour. Also almost all manufactures are doing keyless entry&start even on their most basic models because “it’s the future”. That why companies like this, who make protection hardware will make millions in the next few years and there after 👍🏼
You are laughing and it's terrible.. the guy was dead serious lol
Excellent demo. Quite shocking how easy it is and does raise the question on what the OEMs should offer (at the very least raise the risk with customers). I would be intrigued to know how the thieves device technically works. It looked like Henk was changing the unique RF of each car. How do the thieves know or get that info?
Line a little box near your door with tinfoil, pop fob in.
Saved you some money
And you take this little box with you every day? ;)
Faraday pouch fits in your pocket one at home one always carried and key goes in 2 for 10
@@Shmee150 i like your replies :) everybody's cheap solution works but isn't practical when using your car when your out and about. I could say use tin foil to wrap it in when you're out but who wants to do that every time they go shopping or to the cinema?
@Missing One despite the price it works its just not convenient or looks good when out.
www.amazon.co.uk/Blocker-Faraday-Keyless-Blocking-Protection-2-x-Signal/dp/B076KZF645?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duc08-21&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B076KZF645
That's a fantastic method to get this problem fixed
Trust me, if criminals were planning to take a Ford Focus RS off your drive it wouldn't be for the Engine ... lol😂
An excellent idea. However if it is 3 minutes before the fob goes to sleep the thiefs could get the frequency within that time, say when you were walking into a building or home. Three minutes is a long time. I think it's better to have cars where you physically put the key in the ignition to start. Or the old system where you physically input a 4 or 5 digit code that you set each time.
Even with this system u can still start it by smashing the window and going thought diagnostic port just by using computer
Yeah, smashing a window in the middle of the night will create a lot of attention.
Roberto Lombardi not at 4am when most normal people are fast asleep. Carbide punch makes very little noise. Buy a steering lock and relocate the OBD port.
Didn't know that the new keyless vehicles were that easy to steal.
Although being electronic I have no doubts that theives would be all over that kind of thing.
Nice informational video Tim.
This is a well known loophole in keyless entry systems for a long time already.. Put your keys in a Faraday cage bin, or even better do not option keyless entry on your car at all.. I'm glad my BMW came without..
I recently got my local Ford main dealer to disable keyless entry via ECU programming on my RS. I can still start the car exactly the same way but I need to press the unlock button on the key to open the car initially. This has given me a little peace of mind against this particular security problem! While there they also disabled the FEN as I’ve had m400R upgrades and quite a few other things from Mountune. Who wants fake engine noise when it sounds great anyway?! 😁 Thanks for sharing this video!
Very very informative, but manufacturers should be fitting the keyless protectors as standard to the fob, don't you think Tim ?
Yeah, which some do, Ford start including keyless fob with 40s sleep function on it on their newest models I hear.
I 100% agree, baffles me how they don’t
They will do anything to save money, you watch -future car companies will offer this as 'factory option for £xxx'.
That’s very true, I didn’t think of that
It used to take 15 minutes back in the 90s to program a new key through the OBD port (at least with Fords) for this very reason (people programming keys). Also could simply use an algorithm that once the car is locked, only an unlock command from a preprogrammed fob will let the car wake up. The OBD port should be dead anytime the car is locked with the fob. Its amazing that security from the 90s has been eliminated in the name of "convenience".
How about you dont choose the keyless go system when you spec your car?!
G009 how about it being standard on some cars?
@@knulleriboy what cars would that be?
@@J-Gx pretty much any new car over 25K these days.
Very interesting video, liked it a lot😊
Dead lock your cars people just press the lock button twice!!
Doesn't make a difference. The car is fooled into believing it's seeing the legitimate key, so why shouldn't it unlock?
@@ChristopherWoods I'm talking about ones that are stolen via OBD port slows the theft down
@@Housie40 mine was stolen that way, didn't slow them down at all. They popped a hole in the window with a centre hole punch and just reached in to the OBD and connected without ever needing to open the door. Once they disabled the alarm and unlocked the car with their kit, they could just open the door as normal. Saw them doing it.
Really informative video and shocked of how quick he got into the car without the keys. However, wouldn't a simple RFID key fob pouch do the same thing, for very little money? For example when you get home, pop your car key in the pouch so the thieves can't scan for it?
RFID safe Faraday bags off eBay do a great job too! Nice and cheap also!
Nice video bud.
I was thinking the solution may be somewhere down this path. So you buy a small pouch to keep your fob in? In the same way you keep your “chip” credit card in an RFID- blocking’s card sleeve?
Furthermore, so is the theft of the specific frequency or RFID ( forgive my ignorance of the technology used) of the fob achieved by a one-time proximity sweep of the fob by the cloning tool? Or can the cloning tool just be brought near the car only?
Thanks Shmee for the tutorial on how to steal a car!
It just shows that this keyless entry is a load of bollax, why is it soo hard to put a key into a steering lock and turn it. Is there a new breed of ultra lazy people driving cars. Cars should go back a generation where a remote locks/unlocks plus a chip to access ignition only, non of this touch your car here to lock etc, as well as that it's just more cr@p/gadgets to go wrong in the future.
Are you really a Brit? Because I am pretty sure bollocks is how you spell it.
It's cute to think that this had existed for many many years before he had come across it and it's a surprise to him.
i simple solution would wrap your keyfob in foil when you're not using it or make a foil box to store it in. simple yet effective and free
100% correct. A biscuit tin works equally as well.
Keyless entry was always silly.
It’s like when the introduced chip and pin on debit/credit card for safety but then thought contactless was a good idea. They’re going backwards security wise just to save you a negligible amount of time
Surprised it's taken you this long to do a video about this Tim, it's been a problem for at least four years. Also, even cars like the ST which don't have keyless are susceptible due to an essential part of the car's electronics running code from 2005. The modules were reverse-engineered by Eastern European criminals; OBD dongles are now availale which can easily disable the (Thatcham-accredited) Ford alarm via CANBUS, then put the security system into key learning mode to clone a new key. Exactly how mine was stolen, took about 60 seconds from popping the window to driving away. Many owners now have Ghosts fitted to suppress CANBUS attack. Also quite surprised you didn't recommend people buy a Disklok!
Layered security is what we need now - make it too much of a hassle to steal a car, they'll go after someone else's. Sad state of affairs. The Keyless Protector is a clever invention, I remember being impressed by it when it launched, but wow it's expensive. Any chance you could do a promo with them for some money off?
Very educational video! One of the flaws in preventing car theft are keyless fobs criminals can use a device to receive information from the fob itself to gain access to the car. This is why I prefer conventional keys over keyless fobs because they are simple and secure. Now that we watched the video, there is a solution to the weak problem that is a protector for keyless fobs so information from the keyfob cannot be picked up.
just put your keys in a protected bowl on your desk ? £ 25 job done - protects all keys
There steeling from car parks as soon as you lock your car lmao
Wait? you spend £25 on a bowl?
Gotta be big enough for pot pourri
It's beyond me how the manufacturers have not figured out how to solve this using asymmetric cryptography - relay attacks are just man-in-the-middle attacks which are a largely a solved problem
Andrew Rodham European law is to blame. Car systems have to be open to provide fair competition. We will never win if everyone had to return to a main dealer for all vehicle issues because everything was encrypted, people would just moan like fek
could you not put your keys into something like a faraday cage? ie small galvanized metal container with lid?
NAFSUCOF-FOCUSFAN yes this is also a solution!!
when you go out and park car in a car park?
The SamsungExperiance but then you aren’t around with the keys for the rf to be stolen. this is only an issue with cars parked at home because you’re there with the key. if the key isn’t around no problem
@@nafsucof the keys are in you pocket they work in pairs, one will walk past you with the device and grabs the signal and sends it to the other device and stores signal as long as you want it,, they doing it around the world and its very simple to do....
This system is way cooler than wrapping your key in tin foil and I bet you battery will last longer as well.
Thats why I have a disklock and clutch lock on my RS , wont stop them but will slow them down !
Exactly! Deterrent is the first step, if it becomes a challenge you are going to be safer than if it's super vulnerable
Usually thieves go after the easiest targets. With measures like what you have, they're better off just going after the Peugeot down the street.
@@EA40 Yeah but the Peugeot wont have what they want . Its usually a targeted attack rather than joyriding .
@@AndrewCherry458 are you saying Peugeot owners are undesirable? 😉
I had my car stole in the same way I thank this man so much for making this the whole of England needs it so many cars get stolen here
I got a faraday pouch for my new car immediately but its only a temporary measure..
need to get a ghost immobiliser
I run ghost on my motor and am very happy with it, along with Diskloc, faraday pouch ( get 2 one for the spare set of keys!)
Steve Alexander yeah I use the pouch for both keys but what is diskloc? Something with the brakes?
I’m still trying to find a nearby ghost installer. I’m in London and most are up north..
@@stevealexander6928 make sure you test your Faraday Wallets frequently, most of them stop working after a couple of months. However there's one brand that offers Lifetime Warranty :)
diskloc (Google it, Halfords sell them and they are not a gimmick) covers the steering wheel and is a high visual deterrent and extremely good at not being able to be removed very easily or quickly
My mate had a brand new Range Rover stolen from his driveway like this. When he replaced it, he made the Range Rover dealer change the keyless entry for a standard keyed entry. Now his car is pretty safe.
A UA-camr called Black Widow Supra just got his project car and his trailer stolen.
Life of palos lmao
Would taking the battery out not work as well? Could be worth it to try
Robust solution buuuut,
The time should be configurable...
3 minutes is enough for you to get inside your home and for a stalking thief to gain access, the user should be able to configure the time after which the key goes to sleep...
or make the user have the ability to make the key go to sleep quickly...
I'm guessing that is to prevent that you're inside the car but stopped and the car would stop seeing the key. I don't think the car would shut off, but something may happen
yeah the audi key was safer than the pre production RS key that he got
This is the kind of payed promotion I like, shmee’s getting paid so he can make loads of great more content and get more cars to go with that and we are warned about a problem that genuinely affects people everyday
" and now we'll see if henk can gain access"....
Walks outside and smashes the window.. Old school muthaf**ka"!
So... What happens with the Focus if, for instance, you had parked up in a car park for the afternoon, and walked away having locked the carr?
The key is in your pocket and is still moving when you walk off. Thus it's still sending out it's "normal" signal. Meaning that anyone with the right equipment is still able to "collect" the keys signal and then just jump into the car and drive away when you've gone?
The one for the Audi stops that happening with the double tap system.
Just one big advertisment
when you drive and te key disables itself right? Dont you get a error message like "key not detected"?
I’ve not locked my car in two years.....it’s that crap nobody wants to nick it 😂
lol. nice one.
But what happens when you drive your car? Does the key go to sleep and the car alarms you that it couldn't find the key?
it will continue going :)
How much is that keyless hack device?
Tough Guy would love to know also
Blackmarket it’s got to be at least 2-3 grand...
@@omardastgir2985 i know right
ThatGuyNamedScott. C sure you must be able to buy it online somewhere, worth 2 grand
I don't understand why they don't do this from the car manufacturers. A go to sleep, idle mode where it stops emitting when car is turned off and locked so the key goes to sleep. Then to wake it up you have to press unlock once to wake it up and unlock again to unlock the car. Would solve that potential threat.
"It's this SHOCKINGLY easy..."
Autocorrect seemed to take control.
That sentence is correct don't know what you're on about...
@@Xynteon Neither do I now. Um... Yeah, I got nothing.
Better to simply turn off keyless entry option on your Focus RS Red Edition. The new Focus key transmits in motion so that's no good as you might be followed out of the car and it be copied while your eying up your next ready meal. The Audi is much better as it will only transmit when tapped twice. But tell us do you have to then tap twice again to start the car or do you have say a 20 second window etc to load the trunk and start the car before you must tap it twice again. You could end up with a few bruises before too long, much better to turn off keyless entry as this systems.
Mate, sort your glasses out, they are either bent or you have wonky lugs.
That's the Hugh Grant floppy look 😎
Ford have stepped up to the game and now provide motion detecting keys as standard with Focus and Fiesta. Other models coming soon. The keys operate slightly differently to the system above in that it is only the keyless entry function that sleeps. With the aftermarket method shown in this video you may end up not being able to start your car if you sit inside for more than 3 minutes with your key stationary.
Good point that is. 👍🏻