Hi Joel just wanted to reach out. The last time you were in Florida I saw you at Cracker Barrel but wasn’t brave enough to say Hello as I felt as though I was bothering you lol. If you are staying in the same area in May I would highly recommend to eat at Ovation Bistro. Delicious smoked meats. I have lived in that area for a while so if you wanted any recommendations I would be happy to help 😊
I came out privately (to myself) when I was 14. That's when I dropped the pretense, to myself, that I wasn't gay. However, I waited to publicly come out until I was 21. I did so because it was illegal to be gay, where I was raised. Also knowing that I would've been put into an institution and suffered electro-shock therapy, to scramble my brains, had I come out at a younger age, when my parents still had legal control over me. My fears were fully confirmed, when I finally told my parents that I was gay. They said, point blank, that they would've institutionalized me, since that was the prevailing "treatment" for being gay at the time. They thought that they would've been doing the right thing for me, not withstanding the extreme permanent brain damage and lowering of my IQ, that the shock therapy would've done to me. The barbarisim that gays have had to deal with, at the hands of straight people, is a societal stain that can never be washed away.
Coming out on your own terms is important. The felt pressure to be 'out' due to perceived mental health benefits or gay politics can be just as harmful and is as often about an other's agenda than your well-being.
Very interesting! I am now in my 60s with three adult children, was married for ten years, but deep down I always knew I was gay. But I come from an era where one didn’t talk about it, let alone come out! One of my children has my number, for sure! The others probably know, but would rather not have that conversation. At this point in my life, I’m not looking for love or sex, so I don’t see the need to make any grand announcement. And being an enigma is rather fun!
i find it really interesting looking back, i was so afraid to come out to my parents and i honestly regret making such a big deal out of it to myself cause like … i could’ve never told them and i don’t think anything would be different considering how uneventful my relationships have been lol
I do not understand why it is so hard to come out. It is not fair to be afraid of other people to anyone who does not fit their norm. Who are those people who judge you "God", and who gives them the right. Most people will not even care but I do know that the ignorant pose a threat. Some people are over the top like Quentin Crisp, whom I admire and adore but holy cow so are the Kar-duche-ians.
I remember coming out. It was 1992 and I was young at University. I was never ‘in the closet’ at work because I didn’t care what others thought about me. I think I was lucky because I was strong willed and I still don’t care to this day what people think of me. It’s their stuff not mine.
1. Imagine one by one you would wake up the next morning and your boyfriend became a real woman. 2. Imagine one by one you wake up and the next morning you became a real woman. 3. Imagine you both would have been meeting each other for the first time and one of you was a real woman. 4. Imagine your friend is getting period every month and weakened. Would you be in a relationship now? Would you still have sex with each other? Would you get married? Would you love each other less? ... How to answer these questions?
For the most part, I think people just want to feel safe.
This conversation hit very close to home for me. Guys, thank you so much for making me feel better about who I'm.....
I came out at 42. Married and with a 3 year old. Didnt think I would make it through. 20 years later and all worked out very well.
I love that for you
Hi Joel just wanted to reach out. The last time you were in Florida I saw you at Cracker Barrel but wasn’t brave enough to say Hello as I felt as though I was bothering you lol. If you are staying in the same area in May I would highly recommend to eat at Ovation Bistro. Delicious smoked meats. I have lived in that area for a while so if you wanted any recommendations I would be happy to help 😊
I came out privately (to myself) when I was 14. That's when I dropped the pretense, to myself, that I wasn't gay. However, I waited to publicly come out until I was 21. I did so because it was illegal to be gay, where I was raised. Also knowing that I would've been put into an institution and suffered electro-shock therapy, to scramble my brains, had I come out at a younger age, when my parents still had legal control over me. My fears were fully confirmed, when I finally told my parents that I was gay. They said, point blank, that they would've institutionalized me, since that was the prevailing "treatment" for being gay at the time. They thought that they would've been doing the right thing for me, not withstanding the extreme permanent brain damage and lowering of my IQ, that the shock therapy would've done to me. The barbarisim that gays have had to deal with, at the hands of straight people, is a societal stain that can never be washed away.
Coming out on your own terms is important. The felt pressure to be 'out' due to perceived mental health benefits or gay politics can be just as harmful and is as often about an other's agenda than your well-being.
Very interesting! I am now in my 60s with three adult children, was married for ten years, but deep down I always knew I was gay. But I come from an era where one didn’t talk about it, let alone come out! One of my children has my number, for sure! The others probably know, but would rather not have that conversation. At this point in my life, I’m not looking for love or sex, so I don’t see the need to make any grand announcement. And being an enigma is rather fun!
i find it really interesting looking back, i was so afraid to come out to my parents and i honestly regret making such a big deal out of it to myself cause like … i could’ve never told them and i don’t think anything would be different considering how uneventful my relationships have been lol
I do not understand why it is so hard to come out. It is not fair to be afraid of other people to anyone who does not fit their norm. Who are those people who judge you "God", and who gives them the right. Most people will not even care but I do know that the ignorant pose a threat. Some people are over the top like Quentin Crisp, whom I admire and adore but holy cow so are the Kar-duche-ians.
You just have to be YOU!!!
I remember coming out. It was 1992 and I was young at University. I was never ‘in the closet’ at work because I didn’t care what others thought about me. I think I was lucky because I was strong willed and I still don’t care to this day what people think of me. It’s their stuff not mine.
The excellent 2002 film "Far from Heaven" deals with coming out in the 1950s as an older man.Very well picture.
1. Imagine one by one you would wake up the next morning and your boyfriend became a real woman.
2. Imagine one by one you wake up and the next morning you became a real woman.
3. Imagine you both would have been meeting each other for the first time and one of you was a real woman.
4. Imagine your friend is getting period every month and weakened.
Would you be in a relationship now? Would you still have sex with each other? Would you get married? Would you love each other less? ...
How to answer these questions?